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robot89
07-09-2010, 02:25 PM
Written by Jeff Garcia Friday, 09 July 2010 14:09
The San Antonio Spurs have agreed to terms to resign their free-agent Matt Bonner with a four-year contract extension:
the Concord native agreed to terms with the Spurs on a four-year contract extension through the 2013-2014 season.
"I'm just very excited. I'm really happy things worked out, and I can go back to San Antonio. I'm really looking forward to the future," Bonner said.
The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.


"In the end, if San Antonio was going to make a fair deal and give me a long-term contract, that's what I was looking for at this point in my career," Bonner said. "To not have to uproot my family and my living situation and go back where I'm established and where my daughter was born, it's a great feeling.


"That's the kind of long-term stability I was looking for at this point in my career. I get to exhale and start getting ready for next year.
Four years is a bit long in my opinion but it seems he did come "cheap" by NBA standards. The good thing now is that Spurs fans won't have to burn their Bonner jerseys a la Cleveland Cavaliers fans when LeBron James decided to join the Miami Heat.
Now if he can only show up in games when it really matters -- the playoffs!
Thoughts Spurs fans? Go ahead and chime in!

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
:lmao :lmao

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
Nice

PDXSpursFan
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:28 PM
If Jeff Garcia wrote this how come he hasn't referenced this on twitter?

robot89
07-09-2010, 02:28 PM
NOOOOO! x 20000 hahahah

robot89
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
its up here http://projectspurs.com/

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
http://skepacabra.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/epic-fail-7.jpg

Vic Petro
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
:spless:

Ginobili2Duncan
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
ap5Sw3xsZhU&feature=related

ChumpDumper
07-09-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm afraid this could be true.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Concord%27s+Bonner+re-ups+with+the+Spurs&articleId=587d54f6-bb06-4a60-8fc0-85c828bf54fd

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 02:30 PM
Predictability is so predictable . . .

BlairForceDejuan
07-09-2010, 02:31 PM
I'm happy for Matt as a good guy getting the bank and more importantly the stability, but damn...:bang

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2010, 02:31 PM
Fuck you Matt Bonner! Why can't you just go away!!!!!!!

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:31 PM
This is awful... maybe just a sign they feel they simply can't compete with LA and what not...

ChumpDumper
07-09-2010, 02:31 PM
If Jeff Garcia wrote that, he's a plagiarist.

[EDIT] I was wrong. I googled and found the other report before reading the PS report that just quoted it.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:32 PM
Wow... have to put up with vander for 4 more years... :depressed

robot89
07-09-2010, 02:32 PM
hhahaha

Interrohater
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
Well, I'm not pro-Bonner, nor am I against him. I think he does well in the position that he's in, which is a roleplayer. We can't have all-stars and all-nba defense players at all positions, so we have a guy like Bonner who fills a niche. Now that I think about it, I AM pro-Bonner. The good thing is that I honestly don't think he's hit his ceiling. While I highly doubt that he'll become so much better that all of Spurstalk will start donating to the Church of Bonner, I do think he still has potential in some areas to become a decent all-around player.

boutons_deux
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
Matt now has a shot at sucking in 6 straight playoffs

Unbelievable

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.citadelsaber.co.uk/img,316.jpg

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
wtf bonner is ok to me as long as he aint ruining our momentum
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/mikaelaeuro/awhellnahobama.jpg

weebo
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
lmao

Dex
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/ryncar/gifs/sdiamq.gif

Ok, now it's time to throw in the towel. :lol

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Well, look at the positive, Bonner may have re-signed ... but he also got a raise!

weebo
07-09-2010, 02:35 PM
well atleast we still have bonner to blame when things turn to shit

celldweller
07-09-2010, 02:35 PM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3W2L_L6dwts/Sy5OQmCmJHI/AAAAAAAAAes/dv53tfDuHek/s800/why-god-why1.jpg

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:36 PM
Well, look at the positive, Bonner may have re-signed ... but he also got a raise!

:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang

Which means they're not going to sit him at the end of the bench...

:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang

sammy
07-09-2010, 02:36 PM
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO!

Please tell me this is not true! Fuck!~:bang

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:38 PM
If this is setting the tone of what the offseason is going to be for the FO..... brace yourselves.

purist
07-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Well, I'm not pro-Bonner, nor am I against him. I think he does well in the position that he's in, which is a roleplayer. We can't have all-stars and all-nba defense players at all positions, so we have a guy like Bonner who fills a niche. Now that I think about it, I AM pro-Bonner. The good thing is that I honestly don't think he's hit his ceiling. While I highly doubt that he'll become so much better that all of Spurstalk will start donating to the Church of Bonner, I do think he still has potential in some areas to become a decent all-around player.

nail on the head. Bonner's problem has been that Pop had to elevate him in the rotation out of necessity i.e. lack of depth at bigs and lack of anyone else who could hit a three with any consistency. If Bonner's lower in the rotation, say 9th or so, he fills a role. Anything more than that, then the Spurs are in trouble.

Seventyniner
07-09-2010, 02:39 PM
This can't be right...Bonner is a free agent; he can't sign an extension. I call shenanigans.

Also, I hope that it's the value of the entire contract that exceeds $3.2M, not each year. I can't fathom Bonner getting more than $1.5M each year...

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 02:39 PM
fuck. FUCK.

whatever. I saw this coming and if we land Splitter this won't make me as mad. I am more worried about our 3 position than our bigs.

TIMMYD!
07-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Fuckity fuck fucks. :bang

manu the best
07-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Written by Jeff Garcia Friday, 09 July 2010 14:09
The San Antonio Spurs have agreed to terms to resign their free-agent Matt Bonner with a four-year contract extension:
the Concord native agreed to terms with the Spurs on a four-year contract extension through the 2013-2014 season.
"I'm just very excited. I'm really happy things worked out, and I can go back to San Antonio. I'm really looking forward to the future," Bonner said.
The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.


"In the end, if San Antonio was going to make a fair deal and give me a long-term contract, that's what I was looking for at this point in my career," Bonner said. "To not have to uproot my family and my living situation and go back where I'm established and where my daughter was born, it's a great feeling.


"That's the kind of long-term stability I was looking for at this point in my career. I get to exhale and start getting ready for next year.
Four years is a bit long in my opinion but it seems he did come "cheap" by NBA standards. The good thing now is that Spurs fans won't have to burn their Bonner jerseys a la Cleveland Cavaliers fans when LeBron James decided to join the Miami Heat.
Now if he can only show up in games when it really matters -- the playoffs!
Thoughts Spurs fans? Go ahead and chime in!

nobody even buys a bonner jersey .. what the fuck .. nooooooo ..

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:40 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/u69Ix9iWTqxdezwj9fqaGiYKo1_500.png

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:40 PM
:bang

:vomit:

:td

Pop is allergic to defensive-minded, athletic, big men. This is not a move that makes the Spurs better or one that helps "close the gap" on the top-tier competition.

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 02:41 PM
If this is setting the tone of what the offseason is going to be for the FO..... brace yourselves.

I wonder if Splitter knows how this could affect his minutes?

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:42 PM
:lmao I love it Love it when the noobs melt down

xtremesteven33
07-09-2010, 02:42 PM
Bonner is a good bench player.....but the guy has 0 clutch ability and 0 championship talent....please

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 02:43 PM
yea baby 4 more years of the red rocket we have lift off

scottspurs
07-09-2010, 02:43 PM
This should put the Shaq talk to rest. I hope this doesn't hurt Splitter negotiations. :bang

Bruno
07-09-2010, 02:43 PM
Is it a nightmare?

If numbers are right, his contract could be something like $15M over 4 years. :spless:

Let's hope this report is false. I'm not for Spurs' resigning Bonner but re-signing him to that kind of contract? It would be unreal.

4down
07-09-2010, 02:43 PM
Hell, does this affect Splitter coming over??? Or might it be an indication of something awry? We've waited how many years for Splitter and THIS is the first order of business post Lebrosh-Miami?

Good for Matt, thats a lotta sandwiches, and I'm sure he'll find a solid balanced mutual fund to invest his salary, but defense and rebounding....geez...did they just forget that was what they needed?

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:43 PM
This can't be right...Bonner is a free agent; he can't sign an extension. I call shenanigans.

Also, I hope that it's the value of the entire contract that exceeds $3.2M, not each year. I can't fathom Bonner getting more than $1.5M each year...

The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.

Fpoonsie
07-09-2010, 02:44 PM
31g0YE61PLQ

lefty
07-09-2010, 02:44 PM
Well


Don't blame me if I'm rooting for Miami next season

Fuck our FO

Andy25
07-09-2010, 02:45 PM
http://alanisgood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/1236664538680-300x273.jpg

johnnySpurs
07-09-2010, 02:45 PM
fuck. FUCK.

whatever. I saw this coming and if we land Splitter this won't make me as mad. I am more worried about our 3 position than our bigs.

That's exactly it. I think most Spurs fans see Splitter as the second coming and signing him is considered our #1 priority. With the window slowly closing on that opportunity to see that we (maybe) have resigned arguably one of the top 3 most disliked players in a Spurs uniform last season is just.... deflating'ish.

Sisk
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2133/bonner.gif

Vic Petro
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
Pop told RC to give him the Malik Rose.

Dex
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
:lmao I love it Love it when the noobs melt down

Yes, because Bonner's contributions last year certainly warranted a 15 million dollar extension.

Especially those clutch shots in the playoffs.

Kori Ellis
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
I'm guessing it's true, considering there are quotes from Bonner in the article. :lol
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Concord%27s+Bonner+re-ups+with+the+Spurs&articleId=587d54f6-bb06-4a60-8fc0-85c828bf54fd

bigzak25
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
Glad it got done. Bonner brings some fouls on defense against the opposing power forwards and will be a nice spot shooter from the corner for the TD and Splitter outlets...

He's a team player, and it means one less guy learning the system next year.

Many here will change their tune when he hits some clutch 3's in the playoffs this year.

lefty
07-09-2010, 02:46 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2133/bonner.gif
:lol

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Is it a nightmare?

If numbers are right, his contract could be something like $15M over 4 years. :spless:

Let's hope this report is false. I'm not for Spurs' resigning Bonner but re-signing him to that kind of contract? It would be unreal.

Bonner doesn't deserve the veterans minimum.

Sisk
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
maybe we can hire artest's psychiatrist for this mental midget....

Vic Petro
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2133/bonner.gif


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Many here will change their tune when he hits some clutch 3's in the playoffs this year.

:lol

I needed a good laugh. Thanks.

benefactor
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Heat get James, Wade and Bosh and the Spurs get Bonner back. Outfuckingstanding.

G-Dawgg
07-09-2010, 02:48 PM
Well, I'm not pro-Bonner, nor am I against him. I think he does well in the position that he's in, which is a roleplayer. We can't have all-stars and all-nba defense players at all positions, so we have a guy like Bonner who fills a niche. Now that I think about it, I AM pro-Bonner. The good thing is that I honestly don't think he's hit his ceiling. While I highly doubt that he'll become so much better that all of Spurstalk will start donating to the Church of Bonner, I do think he still has potential in some areas to become a decent all-around player.

Exactly. He plays the role Danny Ferry played for us back in those championship days. As long as we don't have to rely on him as a starter, we're ok cuz he's a decent role player.

Fpoonsie
07-09-2010, 02:48 PM
Many here will change their tune when he hits some clutch 3's in the playoffs this year.

When, pray tell, has he given you ANY reason to believe he's actually capable of hitting a 1st quarter perimeter shot, much less a clutch one, in the post-season?

Das Texan
07-09-2010, 02:48 PM
Bonner was playing really good in the two weeks before his broke his hand last year. He was actually rebounding and was playing good team defense.


Bonner had some moments toward the end of the regular season also.


If he can just learn how to not choke during the playoffs, he will be a useful piece. Its not like he is breaking the bank and you could do a lot worse.

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Glad it got done. Bonner brings some fouls on defense against the opposing power forwards and will be a nice spot shooter from the corner for the TD and Splitter outlets...

He's a team player, and it means one less guy learning the system next year.

Many here will change their tune when he hits some clutch 3's in the playoffs this year.


:shootme

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:49 PM
lol @ noobs... he's only been around for 3 seasons...:jack

BanditHiro
07-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Well at least he might find the Hoagie Grail

sa_butta
07-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Ill take my chances with Bonner shooting 3's rather than RJM...He is ok in my book...maybe not worthy of an 4 yr deal with more money but Im ok with bringing him back.

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Heat get James, Wade and Bosh and the Spurs get Bonner back. Outfuckingstanding.

Amazing summer, so far. Isn't it.

Last summer, the Spurs went "bold" and struck first in free agency, by way of the RJ trade.

How the hell Bonner is the Spurs first free-agent, offseason move of the summer, is beyond me?

sa_butta
07-09-2010, 02:50 PM
Heat get James, Wade and Bosh and the Spurs get Bonner back. Outfuckingstanding.
When you put it that ways it looks pretty bad...
:lol

murpjf88
07-09-2010, 02:50 PM
4 year contract extension? What a kick in the teeth.

Vic Petro
07-09-2010, 02:50 PM
Not that there was any real credence to it to begin with, but this makes all the Shaq stuff moot.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:50 PM
FWIW, epic title for the thread :lol

mexicanjunior
07-09-2010, 02:51 PM
If this is true, trade the big 3 and move the team to Vegas...no reason to even open the ATT center after this.

yavozerb
07-09-2010, 02:51 PM
The summer of Bonner!! welcome back :lol

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 02:52 PM
this thread is going to be great.

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Ah the typical reactions from the typical moons :lmao

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Amazing summer, so far. Isn't it.

What do you expect from a FO with almost no money to spend?

PDXSpursFan
07-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Next move? Probably re-signing Bogans? :bang

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
Matt Bonner has championship experience.

timvp
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
This is got damn horrible news. Bonner is a decent signing for LLE money. Four years and $14M or whatever the F is just stupid. He's a proven choker who should be a fifth bigman this season.

Ungotdamnbelievable :pctoss

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
bonner is ok but everytime he gets on the floor the other team goes on a run and we lose the lead.

Dex
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
The only benefit to this is this is one of few players Spurs could sign without affecting their Exceptions.

But it's still Matt fucking Bonner. :pctoss

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
Next move? Probably re-signing Bogans? :bang

and Mason. :blah

mexicanjunior
07-09-2010, 02:53 PM
Ah the typical reactions from the typical moons :lmao

Ah the typical reactions from the typical homers....

TimmehC
07-09-2010, 02:54 PM
The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.


The FUUUU?

will_spurs
07-09-2010, 02:54 PM
If he can just learn how to not choke during the playoffs, he will be a useful piece.

How many more years do you think that might take? 10? 100? A billion?

yavozerb
07-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Matt Bonner has championship experience.

:lol

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:55 PM
What do you expect from a FO with almost no money to spend?

Having little to no money to spend is one thing. Wasting a roster spot on a player, who known more for sandwich blogs, than for anything he's done in the postseason, is quite another.

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 02:55 PM
I dont understand why he gets a raise too? 4 years for the LLE type money would have made sense.. sucks that we burned up for cap room for someone whose probably not gonna play assuming splitter comes.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Wait, he's getting a raise for FOUR FUCKING YEARS?

I'm about as big a Bonner fan as there is but this blows me away. WHY?

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Matt Bonner has championship experience.

Bonner has "sandwich blog" experience.

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
yall dont listen to eric b this is the same mutherfucker who said bonner had a great playoffs

Mel_13
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Not the news I was looking for.

4 years??????????

What's next? Bogans or Mason?

timvp
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Ah the typical reactions from the typical moons :lmao

Says the guy who said Bonner should be re-signed for the vet minimum.

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Again not seeing the likes of wojnarowski or any report this and they report every signing. His latest report was on tyrus Thomas signing an offer sheet with jersey

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
Having little to no money to spend is one thing. Wasting a roster spot on a player, who known more for sandwich blogs, than for anything he's done in the postseason, is quite another.

Yet everyone is clamoring for Ian Mahinmi to be resigned.

Ditty
07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
bonner wasnt too effective during the mavs series, played pretty good during games 3 and 4 against the suns

bonner is a solid role player, you dont find many guys that big the can shoot like that

4 years may be a little too much, hopefully its a team option his last year and salary is not bad but bonner can be real inconsistent and soft on defense

Dex
07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
Now all we need to do is trade Splitters rights to the Mavs, resign Bogans and Mason (lets bring Van Exel back for chuckles, as well), and shift JV to a player-coach.

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
I dont understand why he gets a raise too? 4 years for the LLE type money would have made sense.. sucks that we burned up for cap room for someone whose probably not gonna play assuming splitter comes.

What the fuck are they rewarding him for? Choking?

If that's the precedent being set, why not give Mason the MLE for sucking just as bad.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
I'm lol'ing all over this thread. Honestly, if you didn't see this coming you were probably in denial. Once you accept it, appreciate the hilarity of all the pics.

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:58 PM
I dont understand why he gets a raise too? 4 years for the LLE type money would have made sense.. sucks that we burned up for cap room for someone whose probably not gonna play assuming splitter comes.

What the fuck are they rewarding him for? Choking?

If that's the precedent being set, why not give Mason the MLE for sucking just as bad?

EricB
07-09-2010, 02:58 PM
yall dont listen to eric b this is the same mutherfucker who said bonner had a great playoffs


Link to where I said this please? Or shut the fuck up.

scottspurs
07-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Matt Bonner has championship experience.

so does Adam Morrison? Should the spurs go sign him too?

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Ah the typical reactions from the typical moons :lmao

Did your source tell you to post that?

In all seriousness, anyone who is happy with this deal is stupid. I'm not opposed to having Matt Bonner around but for the life of me I don't know how the fuck he got a four year deal out of the Spurs with a RAISE.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Ah the typical reactions from the typical moons :lmao

This is from the guy that claimed Blair was going to end up in front of Bonner in the rotation last summer...

I'm surprised your 'sources' didn't pick up on this crap...

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Yet everyone is clamoring for Ian Mahinmi to be resigned.

Whatever. I'd take my chances on Ian before watching Bonner choke away more playoff possessions and missed shot attempts.

E-RockWill
07-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Probably no surprise, but I'm o.k. w/ this.

I also hear that Rocket will duet w/ Justin Beiber this summer......Awesome.....

Rescueone
07-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Noooooo, no, no, no. WTF are they thinking? Gingervitis a damn scrub.

Vic Petro
07-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Luckily after Tony walks next year we can have a smooth transition into the Bonner era. Time to build around the Rocket.

EricB
07-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Says the guy who said Bonner should be re-signed for the vet minimum.

For the vet min I said I'd be ok with it.

Nothing I can do about it so I'm not gonna let it ruin my day off season or fandom as it does to these wahoos.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:00 PM
This is got damn horrible news. Bonner is a decent signing for LLE money. Four years and $14M or whatever the F is just stupid. He's a proven choker who should be a fifth bigman this season.

Ungotdamnbelievable :pctoss

If it's a raise, then I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4yrs, $16M.

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Again not seeing the likes of wojnarowski or any report this and they report every signing. His latest report was on tyrus Thomas signing an offer sheet with jersey

So would you feel more comfortable hearing it from Wojo or the guy who's actually supposedly re-signing?

If the latter, read here: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Concord's+Bonner+re-ups+with+the+Spurs&articleId=587d54f6-bb06-4a60-8fc0-85c828bf54fd

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Kinda stumped by the 4 year deal. Would have been fine with a 2 year, especially if Splitter is coming

Balance
07-09-2010, 03:01 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2133/bonner.gif

He's wearing green, so... I think that's Scalabrine... :rollin

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:01 PM
So we're clear.. he's going to be 34 by the time his contract is up, correct?

YoMamaIsCallin
07-09-2010, 03:01 PM
You can't just say "Bonner... noooo!" without context. The real question is not the value of Matt Bonner, it's his value compared to the replacement you could get at that price. You also have to factor in the time and energy to get the replacement to learn the system and fit into the team's style and strategy.

You can't really get NBA-capable NBA-experienced non-disruptive non-head-case hard-working big men at a much lower price than this. Name me one and I'll shut up.

EricB
07-09-2010, 03:01 PM
This is from the guy that claimed Blair was going to end up in front of Bonner in the rotation last summer...

I'm surprised your 'sources' didn't pick up on this crap...


Haven't talked to him in a few days.


But hey keep screaming and freaking out about something that's out of ur control.

td4mvp21
07-09-2010, 03:02 PM
What.the.FUCK?

Here's a big :flipoff to the FO and Bonner

Dex
07-09-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm lol'ing all over this thread. Honestly, if you didn't see this coming you were probably in denial. Once you accept it, appreciate the hilarity of all the pics.

I totally saw this coming. It's just like a death in the family or something. It's stunning when it actually happens. :lol

I'll say what I've said all along, and it's the same thing I was saying last offseason: Bonner as a 4th or 5th big is a good value. Having a big who can shoot is a nice benefit. If Pop would use him in spot situations (and not as a mainstay in the rotation), I'd be all for it.

But we all know, from experience, that won't be the case. Pop wants his Horry v2.0. And I will be extremely surprised if, come the 2011 Playoffs, we are not counting on Bonner to not crash and burn. And we've seen that movie before.

Secondly, I just want to slap the FO for giving a bigger contract and long extension to a player who underachieved last year and has twice been a playoff disappointment. Are they paying this guy on potential or what?

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 03:04 PM
Seeing the resign coming? Sure? Seeing a raise at four years coming? Yeah no. Forgot to call Cleo about that one.

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 03:04 PM
eric b ima roll yo fat ass down a hill and watch u roll u dont have a mutherfuckng source shut the fuck up

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 03:05 PM
Fuck, seriously this is laughable management by the FO (IF TRUE.)

-Bonner will likely be the 5th big off the bench because of splitter
-He showed signs of improvement in terms of skill and effort but he was not able to neutralize the other teams momentum and usually ended up losing our own momentum.

... now he gets a raise?? and for 4 years?? i dont see why we need to burn our cap like that..

timvp
07-09-2010, 03:05 PM
I know the Spurs need a stretch four on their roster. But how about signing a stretch four who isn't a proven playoff choke artist? How about signing a stretch four with some potential? How about signing a stretch four who is past his prime?

Overpaying Matt f'in Bonner for four more years is amazing stupid in the short-term and the long-term.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:05 PM
But hey keep screaming and freaking out about something that's out of ur control.

Did things being out of your control ever stopped you from talking out of your ass?

I didn't think so.

Whisky Dog
07-09-2010, 03:06 PM
That's it, this franchise has lost their fucking minds. Not only was the window shut, but now there's no longer a window to even peer out of. It's a brick fucking wall with Matt Bonner's picture on it.

4 yrs 15 mil...

RiverwalkParade
07-09-2010, 03:06 PM
no way is this true

Sigz
07-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Wow. Matt Bonner is Pop's Michael Finely. He'll continue to suck his balls while giving him way too many minutes.



The Spurs are done....

Big Empty
07-09-2010, 03:07 PM
wow. :( with Bonner getting alot of minutes we have no chance.

in2deep
07-09-2010, 03:07 PM
what the fuck????

get rid of that red piece of shit. how hard is that??? nobody is gonna miss him. dammit!!!!

I'm sorry I am so mean but FUCK! it's time to turn the page!

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:08 PM
eric b ima roll yo fat ass down a hill and watch u roll u dont have a mutherfuckng source shut the fuck up

real talk

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 03:08 PM
For the vet min I said I'd be ok with it.

Nothing I can do about it so I'm not gonna let it ruin my day off season or fandom as it does to these wahoos.

lol you were freaking out when RJ opt-ed out. IMO this is pretty bad too. Bonner eating up 3million+ in cap space and here for 4 more years with the potential of him barely playing. Fucking waste.

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 03:09 PM
You can't just say "Bonner... noooo!" without context. The real question is not the value of Matt Bonner, it's his value compared to the replacement you could get at that price. You also have to factor in the time and energy to get the replacement to learn the system and fit into the team's style and strategy.

You can't really get NBA-capable NBA-experienced non-disruptive non-head-case hard-working big men at a much lower price than this. Name me one and I'll shut up.

I don't disagree with the premise, I've stated as much -- the Spurs aren't likely to find a better player for that role.

But it's not that some of us begrudge him getting paid, it's what that inevitable means: significant playing time.

I wasn't against him coming back at a reduced rate and role behind Duncan, Splitter, Blair and 'Dyess, but some were convinced he'd never be behind all of them regardless of what he was getting paid. I figured the Spurs would be fine.

But to give him a raise and long-term contract?

There's no doubt the Spurs view him as a necessary and real component to their team and its success.

That's why the baby seals and unicorns find themselves seeking shelter . . .

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:09 PM
:lol

People acting like it's armageddon. This likely has no impact on negotiations with their #1 free agent target. He fits a role on the team (PF that shoots over 40% from 3) that isn't easily duplicated, especially for what the Spurs had available to spend.

I don't like his playoff non-performances anymore than the rest of you, but what guarantee do we have that the replacement player is better? This re-signing was inevitable.

Duncan2177
07-09-2010, 03:09 PM
HEY BONNER, RC AND POP


http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/images/2007/04/24/middlefinger.jpg

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:10 PM
In a way, I'm glad that Finley requested to be traded. I don't want to imagine the extension they would have offered him this summer.

This fetish Pop has for some players is just beyond reasonable.

Fpoonsie
07-09-2010, 03:10 PM
This is got damn horrible news. Bonner is a decent signing for LLE money. Four years and $14M or whatever the F is just stupid. He's a proven choker who should be a fifth bigman this season.

Ungotdamnbelievable :pctoss


Shut up, n00b.

Dex
07-09-2010, 03:11 PM
lol you were freaking out when RJ opt-ed out. IMO this is pretty bad too. Bonner eating up 3million+ in cap space and here for 4 more years with the potential of him barely playing. Fucking waste.

This.

Pretty bad when your handing $15 million to a guy who everybody hopes won't even be on the floor.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:12 PM
:lol

People acting like it's armageddon. This likely has no impact on negotiations with their #1 free agent target. He fits a role on the team (PF that shoots over 40% from 3) that isn't easily duplicated, especially for what the Spurs had available to spend.

I don't like his playoff non-performances anymore than the rest of you, but what guarantee do we have that the replacement player is better? This re-signing was inevitable.

No man, the problem is that signing guys like this puts us farther from contention than closer. And the window opening was already pretty thin, if open at all.

Seventyniner
07-09-2010, 03:12 PM
I sure hope this doesn't cause the Spurs' use of the LLE to push them into the tax...

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 03:13 PM
You want everyone to really panic? What if they did this because He's not going to be the fifth big because Splitter isn't coming over?

:lol @ us if we miss out on both Scola and Splitter because of Bonner.

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:13 PM
So how many of you are jumping off the bandwagon?

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:13 PM
Fuck me. Bonner just crucified and nailed the Spurs asses to the Tree of Woe.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 03:14 PM
Fuck me. Bonner just crucified and nailed the Spurs asses to the Tree of Woe.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Too bad you can't call into Bonner's NBA show.

Bruno
07-09-2010, 03:14 PM
And if Spurs have truly spend more than $12M on Bonner, they have no excuses not to offer the full MLE to Splitter if it what it takes to get him or a max extension to Parker.

When you waste that much money on Bonner, there are no legit financial excuses.

EricB
07-09-2010, 03:14 PM
So would you feel more comfortable hearing it from Wojo or the guy who's actually supposedly re-signing?

If the latter, read here: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Concord's+Bonner+re-ups+with+the+Spurs&articleId=587d54f6-bb06-4a60-8fc0-85c828bf54fd


I've seen one article that's all I'm sayin,

T-Pain
07-09-2010, 03:15 PM
Bonner is worthless, this is bullshit

quentin_compson
07-09-2010, 03:17 PM
Bringing Bonner back is alright, I guess. But for this kind of money? It sounds so incredibly stupid I still hope it's a joke.

What was the FO thinking? Are they afraid the Warriors could lure him to Oakland to counter the Heat with their own version of the Big Three in Lee, Ellis and Bonner or something like that? :downspin:

George Gervin's Afro
07-09-2010, 03:17 PM
Written by Jeff Garcia Friday, 09 July 2010 14:09
The San Antonio Spurs have agreed to terms to resign their free-agent Matt Bonner with a four-year contract extension:
the Concord native agreed to terms with the Spurs on a four-year contract extension through the 2013-2014 season.
"I'm just very excited. I'm really happy things worked out, and I can go back to San Antonio. I'm really looking forward to the future," Bonner said.
The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.


"In the end, if San Antonio was going to make a fair deal and give me a long-term contract, that's what I was looking for at this point in my career," Bonner said. "To not have to uproot my family and my living situation and go back where I'm established and where my daughter was born, it's a great feeling.


"That's the kind of long-term stability I was looking for at this point in my career. I get to exhale and start getting ready for next year.
Four years is a bit long in my opinion but it seems he did come "cheap" by NBA standards. The good thing now is that Spurs fans won't have to burn their Bonner jerseys a la Cleveland Cavaliers fans when LeBron James decided to join the Miami Heat.
Now if he can only show up in games when it really matters -- the playoffs!
Thoughts Spurs fans? Go ahead and chime in!




:vomit:

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Spurs might as well trade Parker now just to keep the trend going in this clusterfuck of an off-season.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2010, 03:18 PM
I've seen one article that's all I'm sayin,

With quotes from Matt Bonner.

Its not like Matt Bonner was going to go on ESPN and have a one hour special about where he signs. He's Matt fucking Bonner.

vander
07-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Wow... have to put up with vander for 4 more years... :depressed

:lol

you would have had to put up with me and my exorbitant 15 posts per day :blah anyways

this is actually better for you, as he won't be able to thrive with another team (not that he didn't do well here) and even further prove me right :toast

this is disappointing though, what of Ian now? of Splitter?
or maybe Dyess is going to retire, then this would be great.

Big Empty
07-09-2010, 03:19 PM
im not jumping off the bandwagon, but im being realistic about our chances with him getting more than 5 mintes a game

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:19 PM
No man, the problem is that signing guys like this puts us farther from contention than closer. And the window opening was already pretty thin, if open at all.

How does a signing Bonner put the Spurs farther from contention? They didn't have any other realistic options for the money they could've spent (LLE or vet min). I could understand if the opportunity cost for signing Bonner was equal or greater than his value, but I just don't see it.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:20 PM
How does a signing Bonner put the Spurs farther from contention?

Because if they pay him, they're going to play him.

bigzak25
07-09-2010, 03:20 PM
If a company chooses to keep an employee they value, the do not cut his salary, unless you want them to be disgruntled as well. A slight raise was to be expected if the Spurs were gonna sign him. 4 years is a bit surprising though, as I would have expected 2 or 3 max.

Bonner is a hard worker, and he won't be expected to fill a big man role this year. Only to hustle on defense and hit 3 pointers. Rebounding and interior defense will fall to the other bigs...TD, Splitter, Blair, and Mcdyess, two of which I expect to be on the floor with Bonner at the same time, most times.

The Spurs ability to sign Splitter, and another player with the LLE is unaffected by this move.

Put your big boy pants on people and relax. The Spurs know what they are doing.

Believe.

timvp
07-09-2010, 03:20 PM
The classic end to the Bonner era would be to use Splitter's rights to salary dump Bonner's contract.

Dex
07-09-2010, 03:21 PM
So how many of you are jumping off the bandwagon?

I'm not jumpin' off no bandwagon.

I just am not comfortable with Bonner up at the helm.

4down
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
And if Spurs have truly spend more than $12M on Bonner, they have no excuses not to offer the full MLE to Splitter if it what it takes to get him or a max extension to Parker.

When you waste that much money on Bonner, there are no legit financial excuses.

damn.

straight.

great point, Bruno.

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
The classic end to the Bonner era would be to use Splitter's rights to salary dump Bonner's contract.

You're a sick, sick man.

EricB
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
With quotes from Matt Bonner.

Its not like Matt Bonner was going to go on ESPN and have a one hour special about where he signs. He's Matt fucking Bonner.


I didn't say it wasn't accurate. All I said was I've seen it reported one place that's it.

pad300
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
IF true, window closed. If Pop is signing a guy for that much, he's playing significant minutes. Don't delude yourself. Bonner's going to be starting...

Also, so much for a smart front office. A classic stupidity: Bidding Against Yourself. Anybody hear of Bonner getting so much as a sniff from anyone else?

Big Empty
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
paying him 1.00 or 5 million doesnt matter. what matters is how much PT he gets. The more he plays, the more we will lose a lead/game.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:22 PM
Quick, is Finley available to sign a 3-year deal?

Srupsog
07-09-2010, 03:23 PM
Should of signed Tim Thomas for the vet min.

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:23 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Duncan2177
07-09-2010, 03:24 PM
If a company chooses to keep an employee they value, the do not cut his salary, unless you want them to be disgruntled as well. A slight raise was to be expected if the Spurs were gonna sign him. 4 years is a bit surprising though, as I would have expected 2 or 3 max.

Bonner is a hard worker, and he won't be expected to fill a big man role this year. Only to hustle on defense and hit 3 pointers. Rebounding and interior defense will fall to the other bigs...TD, Splitter, Blair, and Mcdyess, two of which I expect to be on the floor with Bonner at the same time, most times.

The Spurs ability to sign Splitter, and another player with the LLE is unaffected by this move.

Put your big boy pants on people and relax. The Spurs know what they are doing.

Believe.
http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/STFU/6/STFU-Mr_T_(pity_da_foo).jpg

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:24 PM
How does a signing Bonner put the Spurs farther from contention? They didn't have any other realistic options for the money they could've spent (LLE or vet min). I could understand if the opportunity cost for signing Bonner was equal or greater than his value, but I just don't see it.

What's the point of signing a paperweight that's going to take minutes away from the other guys? (Blair, probably Splitter if he comes over). We need good interior defense, rebounding, help for Tim. This guys provides none of that. Roll the dice with somebody else. And to top it all off, we make sure his futility will stick with us for 4 more years... unfuckingbelievable.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:24 PM
The Spurs could have had fucking Darko for a million more a season.

vander
07-09-2010, 03:25 PM
No man, the problem is that signing guys like this puts us farther from contention than closer. And the window opening was already pretty thin, if open at all.

same can be said for that huge contract they gave Manu

tmtcsc
07-09-2010, 03:25 PM
The new contract is expected to exceed the annual salary of $3.2 million he earned last season.


:bang And still no Splitter yet. What are they thinking ? Did the Spurs blow their wad last year ? What does Pop have up his sleeve ?

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
The classic end to the Bonner era would be to use Splitter's rights to salary dump Bonner's contract.

I was just thinking about that. Would they sign him to such a large contract to do a S&T? It didn't sound like that was the intention from Matt's comments.

YoMamaIsCallin
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
I don't disagree with the premise, I've stated as much -- the Spurs aren't likely to find a better player for that role.

But it's not that some of us begrudge him getting paid, it's what that inevitable means: significant playing time.

I wasn't against him coming back at a reduced rate and role behind Duncan, Splitter, Blair and 'Dyess, but some were convinced he'd never be behind all of them regardless of what he was getting paid. I figured the Spurs would be fine.

But to give him a raise and long-term contract?

(shaking head) this has no logic at all.

First, do you really think Popovich gives a shit about what a player's paid when he plays him or not? If Popovich plays Bonner, or anyone, it's because he thinks he is the best player to put in at that point in time.

Second, if you DON'T give him a reasonable offer, he'll just go somewhere else, then you are into the "oh crap now I have to find someone to replace him at that price" issue that I was just talking about. You can't just arbitrarily lowball a free agent and expect he'll take it.

Lots of NBA teams would love to have a serviceable no-drama big man at this price.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
Because if they pay him, they're going to play him.

As they would have played "replacement player with similar skill". Spurs didn't pay him because he's a good guy, they paid him because he fits a needed role.

Can you tell me who this "replacement player with similar skill" is, that he's attainable for LLE or vet min, and that he's going to be better than Bonner at spreading the floor and making 3s?

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
IF true, window closed. If Pop is signing a guy for that much, he's playing significant minutes. Don't delude yourself. Bonner's going to be starting...

Also, so much for a smart front office. A classic stupidity: Bidding Against Yourself. Anybody hear of Bonner getting so much as a sniff from anyone else?


Written by Jeff Garcia
According to the report, the Chicago Bulls, Dallas Mavericks and the Denver Nuggets have contacted Bonner.

clubalien
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
This is got damn horrible news. Bonner is a decent signing for LLE money. Four years and $14M or whatever the F is just stupid. He's a proven choker who should be a fifth bigman this season.

Ungotdamnbelievable :pctoss

this is obviously fake

DrSteffo
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
Not happy. Not surprised.

bigzak25
07-09-2010, 03:26 PM
He's SF depth. Nothing more.

And if Jefferson doesn't sign and the Spurs don't get who they want with the LLE...

then yes, i'd expect Bonner to start, alongside TD and Splitter, with Tony and Hill.

Death In June
07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
The FO just finished their collective descent into insanity. I'm ready to accept the spurs as a 'mediocre at best' team. Can't wait till the pop era is over. Hopefully he keeps to his word and retires in 2012. Bonner will only have 2 years left on his contract by then! Oh, optimism. Cruel, cruel optimism.

hater
07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!


:bang

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
He's SF depth. Nothing more.

And if Jefferson doesn't sign and the Spurs don't get who they want with the LLE...

then yes, i'd expect Bonner to start, alongside TD and Splitter, with Tony and Hill.

You forgot to use blue wording.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
As they would have played "replacement player with similar skill". Spurs didn't pay him because he's a good guy, they paid him because he fits a needed role.

Can you tell me who this "replacement player with similar skill" is, that he's attainable for LLE or vet min, and that he's going to be better than Bonner at spreading the floor and making 3s?

He doesn't spread the floor, or makes threes. We played just fine without him while he was injured last season, and Dice and his jumper can play spread the floor just as well and also grab rebounds and defend people.

This guy is literally a paperweight robbing other players their minutes. Shit, I don't even think he ended up with as positive plus/minus the last playoffs. There's just no excuse.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:29 PM
What's the point of signing a paperweight that's going to take minutes away from the other guys? (Blair, probably Splitter if he comes over). We need good interior defense, rebounding, help for Tim. This guys provides none of that. Roll the dice with somebody else. And to top it all off, we make sure his futility will stick with us for 4 more years... unfuckingbelievable.

Spurs have defense and rebounding with Splitter, Dice and Blair...also role players filling a role for the team. We'd all love to have one big man next to Tim (or backing him up) that does it all...but for the money the Spurs have available, they ain't getting it.

ohmwrecker
07-09-2010, 03:29 PM
I knew this was going to happen, but I thought it would be very low on the list of priorities.

Spurs Brazil
07-09-2010, 03:29 PM
Fuck!!
Too many years and too much money. Horrible contract
Where's Splitter and where's the SF???? They should be the priority not fucking Bonner

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:30 PM
same can be said for that huge contract they gave Manu

Go take a look at Joe Johnson's contract and tell me we didn't save money.
Just please, you got your wish, be quiet now. :lol

SenorSpur
07-09-2010, 03:30 PM
Pop's quest to search for the ghost of Robert Horry continues...

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:31 PM
As they would have played "replacement player with similar skill". Spurs didn't pay him because he's a good guy, they paid him because he fits a needed role.

Can you tell me who this "replacement player with similar skill" is, that he's attainable for LLE or vet min, and that he's going to be better than Bonner at spreading the floor and making 3s?

The Spurs don't need a soft PF who is a one-trick pony who forgets his trick when the games start to matter. They need bigs who can rebound, defend, and get high percentage looks inside. That skillset of Bonner's is hugely detrimental to the success of the Spurs. It worked with Horry because he was also a phenomenal defensive player with a basketball IQ that was off the charts.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:31 PM
Spurs have defense and rebounding with Splitter, Dice and Blair...also role players filling a role for the team. We'd all love to have one big man next to Tim (or backing him up) that does it all...but for the money the Spurs have available, they ain't getting it.

So what's the point of tossing stupid money at a guy that doesn't do anything next to Tim?

lurker23
07-09-2010, 03:32 PM
I'll wait until I see more official numbers before I overreact, but at first glance the deal seems fairly un-Spurs-like. I could see giving Bonner a slight raise, or I could see giving him 4 years, but not both. (That is, I could have easily seen 2 years, $7 million, or 4 years, $11 million.)

I've said before, I have no problem bringing back Bonner if he's going to be the 5th big. However, at that price, either you're going to be playing him more than 5th big minutes, or you're going to be overpaying for someone at the end of the bench. As much as I like Bonner, either situation is unacceptable for a team trying to compete for a championship while going into uncertain financial times.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:32 PM
Pop's quest to search for the ghost of Robert Horry continues...

This is it... and some people here think Matty can fill those shoes... a 3 year sample is not enough, I guess..

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:32 PM
IF true, window closed. If Pop is signing a guy for that much, he's playing significant minutes. Don't delude yourself. Bonner's going to be starting...

Also, so much for a smart front office. A classic stupidity: Bidding Against Yourself. Anybody hear of Bonner getting so much as a sniff from anyone else?

:lol

It's probably no more than $4M per season. They didn't just give him "big 3" type money, and money doesn't determine PT for the Spurs...just ask Jefferson.

vander
07-09-2010, 03:33 PM
Go take a look at Joe Johnson's contract and tell me we didn't save money.
Just please, you got your wish, be quiet now. :lol

:lol

no

and yes, Manu would have gotten very overpaid as a FA this summer, which is why we should have traded him, and which is why we need to trade TP

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:33 PM
I'm not jumpin' off no bandwagon.

I just am not comfortable with Bonner up at the helm.

I wouldn't say he's at the helm.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:33 PM
It disgusts me that this dumbass is going to be taking Blair's minutes again this season.

mexicanjunior
07-09-2010, 03:35 PM
:lol

It's probably no more than $4M per season. They didn't just give him "big 3" type money, and money doesn't determine PT for the Spurs...just ask Jefferson.

Bonner has been stealing minutes for 3 years now...why would Popa-tard stop feeding him now that his salary is higher?

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:35 PM
:lol

It's probably no more than $4M per season. They didn't just give him "big 3" type money, and money doesn't determine PT for the Spurs...just ask Jefferson.

LOL... RJ played on 81 games and averaged 31.1 mpg...

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Bonner has been stealing minutes for 3 years now...why would Popa-tard stop feeding him now that his salary is higher?

Popa-tard

:facepalm

Blackjack
07-09-2010, 03:37 PM
(shaking head) this has no logic at all.

First, do you really think Popovich gives a shit about what a player's paid when he plays him or not? If Popovich plays Bonner, or anyone, it's because he thinks he is the best player to put in at that point in time.

Second, if you DON'T give him a reasonable offer, he'll just go somewhere else, then you are into the "oh crap now I have to find someone to replace him at that price" issue that I was just talking about. You can't just arbitrarily lowball a free agent and expect he'll take it.

Lots of NBA teams would love to have a serviceable no-drama big man at this price.

(shaking head) This retort has no logic at all.

First, do you really think Popovich and the Spurs are going to give someone a raise and long-term deal to ride the pine? Someone who they know exactly what they're getting from and what to expect? Like he's going to say,"Hey, let's get Holt to open up the pocketbook some more so I can have Bonner on the bench to discuss the type of sandwich I should be eating with my A-Z!"

Second, since when is a reasonable offer a pay-raise? That's sounds more than reasonable for a player that hasn't improved the bottom line -- winning -- with his presence. He's made it quite clear that he's a bench player that is much more of a luxury than necessity, so why would it be reasonable to give him a raise and long-term extension? Logical thinking would assume it's because the Spurs value him and expect to play him -- likely, again, more than his abilities should warrant.

Lots of contending NBA teams don't rely on a Matt Bonner to help them contend. Basically all of them.

pad300
07-09-2010, 03:38 PM
:lol

It's probably no more than $4M per season. They didn't just give him "big 3" type money, and money doesn't determine PT for the Spurs...just ask Jefferson.


LOL... RJ played on 81 games and averaged 31.1 mpg...

And for his usefulness should have been averaging at most 20 MPG. We would have been better off developing a platoon system of D-league talent than what Jefferson actually brought to the table last year...

picnroll
07-09-2010, 03:38 PM
Sneed just twittered. He's reconsidering retirement.

spursballer21
07-09-2010, 03:39 PM
we sign matt bonner couldnt we have use this money on ian instead

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:39 PM
It's true though. There are a # of teams who would have payed the same to have Bonner on their squad. whether or not that justifies us signing him is a different story, but he would have got this contract elsewhere if he didn't get it here. TBH I could care less if he was here or not assuming Splitter is still coming over.

SCdac
07-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Wow. This is horrible news. I would rather be slightly below-average without him, than average and a second round exit with him. I'm not saying that'll automatically happen, but this guy for a "power forward" provides nothing of note.... Lazy management.

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:39 PM
:lmao

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:40 PM
we sign matt bonner couldnt we have use this money on ian instead

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

SpursNextRomanEmpire
07-09-2010, 03:40 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2133/bonner.gif

:rollin

franceout
07-09-2010, 03:40 PM
please matt, fail the physical exam, plz

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:40 PM
Damn, if only I was a foot taller and ginger i'd get a nice paycheck from Holt.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:40 PM
Matty needs to review this sandwich next:

http://cdn.guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/turd.jpg

SpursTillTheEnd
07-09-2010, 03:41 PM
all that i ask is that matt bonner please dont ruin our monemtum when your in the game, and i hope this dont take away from blair playing more

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 03:41 PM
The classic end to the Bonner era would be to use Splitter's rights to salary dump Bonner's contract.

scary scary


And if Spurs have truly spend more than $12M on Bonner, they have no excuses not to offer the full MLE to Splitter if it what it takes to get him or a max extension to Parker.

When you waste that much money on Bonner, there are no legit financial excuses.

Couldnt agree more.

dbestpro
07-09-2010, 03:42 PM
No need to buy season tickets now. What's next, Finley and RMJ coming back too?

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:42 PM
The Spurs don't need a soft PF who is a one-trick pony who forgets his trick when the games start to matter. They need bigs who can rebound, defend, and get high percentage looks inside. That skillset of Bonner's is hugely detrimental to the success of the Spurs. It worked with Horry because he was also a phenomenal defensive player with a basketball IQ that was off the charts.


Disagree about the skill-set being detrimental. The success of Pop's offensive system is heavily reliant on spacing. I mean, how many times did we say that RJ absolutely killed the Spurs because he wasn't in the right place or couldn't make the shots when he was in the right place. Bonner provides the spacing for Tim, Tony and Manu to operate in the paint. And he converts on a greater majority of those shots than any other Spur.

Am I thrilled about his performance in playoff situations...no it kills me. But, don't delude yourself into thinking the Spurs would fill out a roster without having that skill-set included. So, if not Bonner then who for the money they had available?

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:44 PM
But it is detrimental, the guy can't shoot in the playoffs. What good is relying on someone who can't provide? I'd be as much use to the Spurs as Bonner in the postseason.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:44 PM
Disagree about the skill-set being detrimental. The success of Pop's offensive system is heavily reliant on spacing. I mean, how many times did we say that RJ absolutely killed the Spurs because he wasn't in the right place or couldn't make the shots when he was in the right place. Bonner provides the spacing for Tim, Tony and Manu to operate in the paint. And he converts on a greater majority of those shots than any other Spur.

Am I thrilled about his performance in playoff situations...no it kills me. But, don't delude yourself into thinking the Spurs would fill out a roster without having that skill-set included. So, if not Bonner then who for the money they had available?

Bonner provides no spacing because he can't hit an important shot, and the opportunity cost of having a big on the floor who can grab a board and not get torched every possession is a hell of a steep price to pay for all those missed shots. Bonner is dogshit and we all stepped in it.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:45 PM
So what's the point of tossing stupid money at a guy that doesn't do anything next to Tim?

Spaces the floor and converts a greater amount of the shots when he gets them than any other Spur.

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 03:45 PM
Brian cook just got a 2 year 2.5 million contract - perhaps something in that range would have been more appropriate.

BadOdor
07-09-2010, 03:45 PM
This makes 0 sense. This off season has been absolutely crazy.

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:45 PM
Disagree about the skill-set being detrimental. The success of Pop's offensive system is heavily reliant on spacing.

This is the worst cop out that has been here since Horry retired.

Did DRob provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Rasho provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Nazr provide spacing with his 3 point shot?

The system is not built exclusively with the 4 providing spacing.

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Better than resigning Mason.

dbestpro
07-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Players loved by their fans are leaving while players hated by their fans won't go away.

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:47 PM
This is the worst cop out that has been here since Horry retired.

Did DRob provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Rasho provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Nazr provide spacing with his 3 point shot?

The system is not built exclusively with the 4 providing spacing.

Or Malik Rose? Or Will Perdue?

ElNono
07-09-2010, 03:47 PM
Spaces the floor and converts a greater amount of the shots when he gets them than any other Spur.

But he doesn't. Not when it matters, he doesn't. Not only that, he completely murders our interior defense.

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:47 PM
This is the worst cop out that has been here since Horry retired.

Did DRob provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Rasho provide spacing with his 3 point shot?
Did Nazr provide spacing with his 3 point shot?

The system is not built exclusively with the 4 providing spacing.

Those 3 could probably shoot 3's better than Bonner in the playoffs.

Spurs Brazil
07-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Let's wait a little more to know if it's true. Bonner agent is the only one McTerrible seems to talk and so far he has no news.

Since the start of free agency he reported nothing about Splitter and RG but he wrote 2 articles about Bonner with his agent quotes.

mexicanjunior
07-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Better than resigning Mason.

RC and Pop are probably on the phone with him now for the MLE...

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Better than resigning Mason.

Not really. A SG isn't expected to be able to rebound or protect the interior, and thus would be a hell of a lot easier to cover up on defense than Bonner. :bang

ffadicted
07-09-2010, 03:48 PM
for MOOOOOORE money? uuuuuuuuuugh

ohmwrecker
07-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Better than resigning Mason.

Kind of like chopping off a limb is better than shooting yourself in the face?

K-State Spur
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
But it is detrimental, the guy can't shoot in the playoffs. What good is relying on someone who can't provide? I'd be as much use to the Spurs as Bonner in the postseason.

i don't like it, but i'm not going to complain until he's playing more than 6-8 minutes a night.

plus, as much as he chokes in the playoffs, just GETTING to the playoffs is no longer assured.

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Kind of like chopping off a limb is better than shooting yourself in the face?

still better...

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Bonner provides no spacing because he can't hit an important shot, and the opportunity cost of having a big on the floor who can grab a board and not get torched every possession is a hell of a steep price to pay for all those missed shots. Bonner is dogshit and we all stepped in it.

Then who is hitting that important shot? Who is the replacement player?

I'm telling you, the Spurs were going to fill that role regardless and give whoever assumed that role some minutes. How many minutes is a legit question for any player in that role, including Bonner.

If Blair, Splitter and especially Dice prove to be more beneficial on the court, then Bonner's minutes are limited.

Either way, this is not the end of the world.

Muser
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
i don't like it, but i'm not going to complain until he's playing more than 6-8 minutes a night.

plus, as much as he chokes in the playoffs, just GETTING to the playoffs is no longer assured.

Yes it is.

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
No need to buy season tickets now. What's next, Finley and RMJ coming back too?

That's a real fan right there.

angelbelow
07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
:lol

It's probably no more than $4M per season. They didn't just give him "big 3" type money, and money doesn't determine PT for the Spurs...just ask Jefferson.

Ridiculous. Its not just about playing time is it? Its about us being 4 million closer to the tax. If this prevents us from using our LLE - that would be unfortunate.

mexicanjunior
07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
Either way, this is not the end of the world.

Nope, just the end of the Spurs championship era...

z0sa
07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
:tu

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
Not really. A SG isn't expected to be able to rebound or protect the interior, and thus would be a hell of a lot easier to cover up on defense than Bonner. :bang

Bonner is a good positional defender. He knows where to be and is very rarely in the wrong spot. Obviously other things like his lateral speed and lack of strength in the post cause problems. Still a better defender than Mason is.

clubalien
07-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Players loved by their fans are leaving while players hated by their fans won't go away.

clearly with lebron signing with the heat the spurs needed a lebron stopper

here you are bonner on lebron

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Not really. A SG isn't expected to be able to rebound or protect the interior, and thus would be a hell of a lot easier to cover up on defense than Bonner. :bang

Def better than Mason, who couldn't hit a shot whether in crunch time or out of it. And his perimeter defense was as bad or worse than Bonner's interior D.

I'd definitely be pissed if Mason were brought back, but I see little-to-no chance of that happening.

Gooshie
07-09-2010, 03:51 PM
I don't see how the Spurs can justify paying 5 bigs (TD, Blair, Dice, Bonner, and Splitter) next year when there are holes at other positions, ESPECIALLY when we know only 1 of those 5 will be on the court much of the time during Pop's "Small Ball."

To me, Bonner's re-signing means one of four things:

1. Splitter has decided to remain in Europe
2. Dice is either retiring or will be traded
3. The Spurs will trade Splitter's rights to another team and then use the MLE on a small forward and sign someone like Shaq to be the 5th big
4. (God forbid) Blair will be traded in a package to acquire a legit small forward

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2010, 03:53 PM
Nope, just the end of the Spurs championship era...

:dramaquee

DesignatedT
07-09-2010, 03:53 PM
Is there still nothing else on this? no Woj or Mcdonald?

Mugen
07-09-2010, 03:53 PM
Goodbye Tiago!

baseline bum
07-09-2010, 03:54 PM
Then who is hitting that important shot? Who is the replacement player?

I'm telling you, the Spurs were going to fill that role regardless and give whoever assumed that role some minutes. How many minutes is a legit question for any player in that role, including Bonner.

If Blair, Splitter and especially Dice prove to be more beneficial on the court, then Bonner's minutes are limited.

Either way, this is not the end of the world.

Finley would have been a better choice. At least he can hit a clutch shot. Or Mason. He did it a couple of times. Hell, Steve Smith's corpse would have been better.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:54 PM
Nope, just the end of the Spurs championship era...

Stop being overdramatic.

Matt Bonner has as much responsibility in the end of an era as he did in sustaining it...i.e. none. This era is built on the big 3 and when are gone, the era is over.

4down
07-09-2010, 03:54 PM
Bonner is a good positional defender. He knows where to be and is very rarely in the wrong spot. Obviously other things like his lateral speed and lack of strength in the post cause problems. Still a better defender than Mason is.

I see at least one problem with that statement.

dbestpro
07-09-2010, 03:55 PM
That's a real fan right there.

If you disagree with the direction of your favorite team the only action a real fan has is to limit what he willing to spend on that team. Casual fans don't care and neither do bandwagon fans. True fanatics are trade away from being on lockdown suicide watch.

AFBlue
07-09-2010, 03:55 PM
Finley would have been a better choice. At least he can hit a clutch shot. Or Mason. He did it a couple of times. Hell, Steve Smith's corpse would have been better.

Awesome, so now you're pimping the "small ball" idea that gets killed in here on a regular basis?

And Mason hasn't hit a clutch shot in a year and a half. In fact, I think his last clutch shot was his last made shot.

ohmwrecker
07-09-2010, 03:55 PM
i don't like it, but i'm not going to complain until he's playing more than 6-8 minutes a night.

I'll be expecting a page full of complaints from you on opening night.