The Official Spanish Primera Liga Thread

[DAF86]

This shit shouldn't be allowed.

[resistanze]

This shit shouldn't be allowed.

Why you mad brah?

[DAF86]

I'm not mad, I'm just saying that 7 years old kids shouldn't be bought.

[IronMaxipad]

2wfcSJba2fA

[resistanze]

I'm not mad, I'm just saying that 7 years old kids shouldn't be bought.

A family's gotta eat! Hell, they do it with child stars all the time.

[lefty]

http://filedonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/london-elektricity-yikes-1.jpg
http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll349/Todosobrecamisetas/ESTRENOS%20CLUBS%202011/RMucl11.jpg

[lefty]

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll349/Todosobrecamisetas/ESTRENOS%20CLUBS%202011/RM113main.jpg

[DAF86]

You don't need to photoshop Xabi Alonso, just post a pic of his playing days in Liverpool.

[lefty]

You don't need to photoshop Xabi Alonso, just post a pic of his playing days in Liverpool.

Shop?

Oh no, those are real ( or so I read on teh internets)

[DAF86]

The photo of the players is visibly fake.

[lefty]

The photo of the players is visibly fake.

You are right

They must have shopped that pic with the new white/gold kit

[joshdaboss]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmd8pusJe1r19uifo1_500.jpg

[lefty]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmd8pusJe1r19uifo1_500.jpg

So true

[Venti Quattro]

lol liverpool

[lefty]

RMAO Liverpool

[DAF86]

When Xavi and Iniesta are not there:


http://www.futbolargentino.com/SDI/objetos/2011/07/27/8fa3a7e0193f4b0f9e7e3c59308a9f0d.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7JAX6UwQ-YY/RXg0BuIXFGI/AAAAAAAAAAM/mHIND8gdZHY/s320/messi.jpg
http://estaticos03.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2005/08/03/1123058849_0.jpg
http://sp8.fotolog.com/photo/56/32/77/messi_cr9_kaka/1247112193806_f.jpg

Gaynaldo would have given one of his balls to have won one of these things, both for the entire package.

[Venti Quattro]

When Xavi and Iniesta are not there:


http://www.futbolargentino.com/SDI/objetos/2011/07/27/8fa3a7e0193f4b0f9e7e3c59308a9f0d.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7JAX6UwQ-YY/RXg0BuIXFGI/AAAAAAAAAAM/mHIND8gdZHY/s320/messi.jpg

Gaynaldo would have given one of his balls to have won one of these things, both for the entire package.

lol blink 182 vocalist

[Venti Quattro]

In other news, a Cesc to Barcelona deal is very imminent, they are just finalizing and ironing out specifics. I read that it's 29 + 5 from Fab + 6 variables. News sources indicate and strongly believe that HE IS GOING to Barcelona.

RMAO :lmao

[DAF86]

BTW:

Xavi:
-6 seasons without Messi: 1 tittle
-7 seasons with Messi: 15 tittles

Iniesta:
-2 seasons without Messi: 0 tittles
-7 seasons with Messi: 15 tittles

[Venti Quattro]

I love big tittles.

[joshdaboss]

when xavi and iniesta are not there:


http://www.futbolargentino.com/sdi/objetos/2011/07/27/8fa3a7e0193f4b0f9e7e3c59308a9f0d.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7jax6uwq-yy/rxg0buixfgi/aaaaaaaaaam/mhind8gdzhy/s320/messi.jpg
http://estaticos03.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2005/08/03/1123058849_0.jpg
http://sp8.fotolog.com/photo/56/32/77/messi_cr9_kaka/1247112193806_f.jpg

gaynaldo would have given one of his balls to have won one of these things, both for the entire package.

31/0.

[joshdaboss]

lol blink 182 vocalist

Never, ever insult Tom Delonge by comparing him to this overrated gnome.

[Muser]

Sky Sources: Cesc Fabregas is travelling to Spain today and is set to be presented as a Barcelona player tomorrow

[lefty]

LMAO Barcelona stealing the Netherland's total football and claiming it's theirs

Cheaters :lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

crofl crofl crofl signing Cesc and Sanchez in the same summer when they originally stated their summer budget was like 45 million euros

[Reeko_Htown]

Manifest Destiny!

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fsc/img/2010/07/13/cesc-Jul13_inside_20100713063229_0_0.JPG

[ElNono]

http://images.smh.com.au/2011/01/14/2133556/108009362-420x0.jpg

lol shitting on Xavi and Iniesta at the same time :lol

[lefty]

http://images.smh.com.au/2011/01/14/2133556/108009362-420x0.jpg

lol shitting on Xavi and Iniesta at the same time :lol

He should thank them for that, really

[Venti Quattro]

crofl crofl crofl signing Cesc and Sanchez in the same summer when they originally stated their summer budget was like 45 million euros

lol wenger

lol rmao

[ElNono]

He should thank them for that, really

I'm sure he did. They also acknowledged he's the best, much to gaynaldo's fan chagrin. :lol

[lefty]

I'm sure he did. They also acknowledged he's the best, much to gaynaldo's fan chagrin. :lol

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1242226186_ronaldo-stunned.gif

[ElNono]

RMAO :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

do you guys think kaka will bounce back from injury?

seems like i prefer ozil, di maria over him atm...dude is fkn shit shouldve stayed in italy ....

italy league makes alot of players that cant transcends to the other leagues...fkn diving wankers

[TDMVPDPOY]

BARCA vs real tonight, is that game still going ahead or player strikes continue?

[lefty]

1-0 Real so far

[lefty]

Villa



Daaaaaaaaaamn

[lefty]

Lol that ref :lmao

No penalty on that Abidal hand

Benzema gets hammered no call

[MannyIsGod]

Villa goal was sick.

[lefty]

Lol Messi pushes Pepe no call


2 shots, 2 goals

Lol

[MannyIsGod]

Good first half. God damn Messi.

[ElNono]

lol No Xavi, no problem
lol Mourinho :cry :cry :cry :cry
lol Barça defense a disaster and still can't beat it

RMAO RMAO RMAO :lol

[ElNono]

Great assist by Messi on the Villa goal

:lmao

[lefty]

Lol that ref helping Barcelona

Shit is rigged haha

[ElNono]

Lol that ref helping Barcelona

Shit is rigged haha

:cry :cry :cry that's what Mou said :cry :cry :cry

[ElNono]

Seriously that defense without Puyol and Piqué is a disaster...

[lefty]

:cry :cry :cry that's what Mou said :cry :cry :cry

Stop being a Barca bandwagon fan

- Abidal hanball, no penalty
- Benzema hammered in the 20 meters, no call
- Messi pushes Pepe on that goal, no call

But of course, bandwagonners like yourself won't admit that

:lmao

[DAF86]

Lol that ref :lmao

No penalty on that Abidal hand

Benzema gets hammered no call


Lol that ref helping Barcelona

Shit is rigged haha

lol someone actually thinking that's an intentional handball.
lol Real Madrid outplaying Barca and still losing
lol Messi didn't have a preseason
lol He got back from vacation 5 days ago

[ElNono]

Stop being a Barca bandwagon fan

- Abidal hanball, no penalty
- Benzema hammered in the 20 meters, no call
- Messi pushes Pepe on that goal, no call

But of course, bandwagonners like yourself won't admit that


You calling anybody a bandwagoner... RMAO!!!!

:cry :cry :cry :cry playing at home against Barca B+ and losing :cry :cry :cry :cry

:lmao

[quentin_compson]

Claiming that Abidal should have been punished for that handball is absurd.
Strange game so far - Barca don't even have to play well in order to beat Real, it seems.

[ElNono]

And :lol @ pushing Pepe... a strong wind in the arena and he falls... :lmao

[lefty]

ROnaldo is still a sefish SOB

[ElNono]

Benzema played well...

[lefty]

And :lol @ pushing Pepe... a strong wind in the arena and he falls... :lmao

Pepe was already off balance, and then Messi pushes him, you idiot

[lefty]

Benzema played well...

Yep

[ElNono]

lol playing dirty now :lmao

[ElNono]

Pepe was already off balance, and then Messi pushes him, you idiot

:lol He slipped... Messi can't knock that guy... he didn't even complain...

[lefty]

Messi is such a pussy

[Whisky Dog]

I have to admit when I saw the defensive backfield Barca was throwing out there I thought they were getting beaten badly. No Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Busquets, etc. and up 2-1 at 50th min mark is insane against Real's best lineup.

I like Lexi, dude fights his ass off and once he gets used to the system he should bring a lot to the team.

[lefty]

Hey PES 12 ads

Lol FIFA

[Whisky Dog]

Haven't been here in about 4 months but I see Lefty is still Lefty rofl

[ElNono]

There it is 2-2

[lefty]

Pheeeeew

[MannyIsGod]

Tie game bitches!

[lefty]

Haven't been here in about 4 months but I see Lefty is still Lefty rofl

Please leave again

[Whisky Dog]

Rofl Pepe being a bitch again, didn't take long. Looking for another red

[ElNono]

lol team of bitches even at home :lol

[lefty]

Alves is a pussy

Soft fag

[Whisky Dog]

:nope
Please leave again

[Whisky Dog]

Nice kid n play fade fag

[lefty]

Marcelo dumbfuck

[Whisky Dog]

Time to put the starters back in

[ElNono]

What's with the Portuguese garbage in Madrid? Did they just get that Concentrao guy?

[lefty]

Ronaldo almost scored that free kick

[ElNono]

lol Gaynaldo missed 3 in a row

[lefty]

I hate Valdes

[ElNono]

Xavi Alonso still a foul machine.. that must be his 6th

[ElNono]

:lmao @ that Gaynaldo flop

[lefty]

:lmao @ that Gaynaldo flop

Flop ?


Really?

[ElNono]

Flop ? :cry :cry :cry Really?

:lol Yes, REALLY

[ElNono]

Good game... Real rescued a tie at home...

:lol RMAO

[lefty]

:lol Yes, REALLY

Lol epic trolling fail

[DAF86]

crofl lefty is sensitive today.

[ElNono]

lol lefty
lol Mourinho
lol beating 6-0 Matanawa dogs of China
lol Messi still playing in sandals

[DAF86]

Madrid deserved to win today, I think this is the first time under Guardiola's management that Barca didn't have the higher ball possesion in a match.

[ElNono]

Barça played like shit

[resistanze]

BTW that was a slick mode by Valdes, but would've been a penalty if the officials caught it.

[Spurologist]

Real fans have to be impressed by Real even though they didn't win. They snuffed out Barca's attack. Villa's goal was world class. That really couldn't be stopped. Messi's goal was unlucky for Real. It was a clearing mixup...and that's all Messi needs...an inch of space.

There were some questionable calls. Valdes clearly tripped Ronaldo and it should have been a penalty. That could've put up Real 3-2.

Benzema is still garbage IMO.. Higuain can at least finish clear chances. Coentrao is a great pickup. Real had many stretches of the game where they had the lion share of possession. It's a good sign even though Xavi/Pedro didn't start.

Fuck Barcelona. In Mourinho I trust.

La Liga better not fuck up and some how get delayed

[it's me]

TBH RM isn't the club it used to be... not even playing better can get them a win against Barca..... and all those dirty fucks should stop with all that dirty play.. in fact when they focused on playing fubol, they played better, when they started the cheap act they lost their game..... Marcelo is in Pepe mode fouling people even without the ball. What about no yellows for Pepe and this Marcelo idiot?????????????? WTF???

[ElNono]

FWIW, I'm no Barça fan, more of a Mourinho hater. I remember the times when Real was a classy team, with great players and a gentleman for a coach (ie: Del Bosque).

Mourinho has turned great players into a bunch of whiners and dirty butthurt bitches. There's not one call against them that they're not rounding the ref and crying like somebody stole their candy. Mourinho himself is the epitome of bitchmade. He never loses a game, it's always the refs, the media, or a combination of both. The rival team cannot ever play better, nor can he ever make a mistake.

So it's always nice to look at a team that rarely, if ever, makes excuses walk in and beat them up. I really like Higuain, and I think Casillas is a top goalie and good guy, but tbh, it's not enough to offset the collection of bitchmade there.

[Spurologist]

How can you hate this man?

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/398098_o.gif

[DAF86]

How can you not?

[ElNono]

lol @ this douche

http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=120734&t=o

http://multiply.com/mu/chelsq/image/10/photos/28/1200x120/15/jose2b5bl6np9qj.gif?et=JYL6zvMfgukehe8ET483mw

http://multiply.com/mu/chelsq/image/6/photos/28/1200x120/18/murinhovpuyol5ai.gif?et=%2CiIDMsaLn1Nq%2Bku8KWxgPQ

http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1142916&t=o

[ElNono]

Fabregas signing complete according to Spanish media

[Venti Quattro]

lol RMAO can only salvage a tie at the bernabeu with barca only coming off vacation

[Libri]

That's why he's The Special One. :smokin

:lmao

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/6/1/1243883135162/Mourinho-001.jpg

[ElNono]

lol didn't even show up to the presser after the game and sent his puppet Karanka, after saying this cup isn't important :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

bench warmer

[lefty]

crofl lefty is sensitive today.
Of course I am :madrun

[ogait]

FWIW, I'm no Barça fan, more of a Mourinho hater. I remember the times when Real was a classy team, with great players and a gentleman for a coach (ie: Del Bosque).

Mourinho has turned great players into a bunch of whiners and dirty butthurt bitches. There's not one call against them that they're not rounding the ref and crying like somebody stole their candy. Mourinho himself is the epitome of bitchmade. He never loses a game, it's always the refs, the media, or a combination of both. The rival team cannot ever play better, nor can he ever make a mistake.

So it's always nice to look at a team that rarely, if ever, makes excuses walk in and beat them up. I really like Higuain, and I think Casillas is a top goalie and good guy, but tbh, it's not enough to offset the collection of bitchmade there.

Lol. Mourinho really touched you in the soft spot.

I guess that's part of what makes him successful. Everyone hates him or loves him but no one is indifferent to him.

[quentin_compson]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

That's an interesting point. I think Barca is right in wanting to add more depth to their midfield. Xavi (who is not getting younger) and Iniesta (who is a bit injury-prone) have been playing their asses of in recent years, so I guess there will be more rotation in midfield. Also, Busquets and Mascherano probably will play at the back four much more often now, thereby freeing up at least one spot in the midfield.
Cesc might not play in every game or be part of the starting eleven all the time, but I doubt that he will just be sitting on the bench much - he is too good for that (even at a club like Barca) and, maybe even more importantly, he was too expensive for that.
Still, one could argue that a guy like Thiago would have been perfectly fine as a depth adding player. I guess there is quite some prestige of getting Cesc back to his old club involved as well.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh I think he'll play. He'll play in the Copa Del Rey matches where they rest everyone they actually care about. With 3 competitions its not like there's not enough games to go around. I just think its redundant move based more on - as you said - prestige than an actual need.

[ALVAREZ6]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

It's so stupid, paying such a high price for an unnecessary player. They should have targeted another strong central defender, or no one and simply save towards that debt. It's just seems like Barca was really stubborn in this Cesc pursuit, wanted him more to win the Cesc war between Arsenal.

CROFL after evaluating their financial position and saying they'd look to only spend 40-45 million euros or pounds on summer signings (w/e it was) and they go out and sign Alexis Sanchez and Cesc Fabregas in the same summer :lol.

[Spurologist]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

I'll be surprised if he's ahead of Afellay in the peeking order tbh.

Cesc has a somewhat winning pedigree but he has never won a league title.

[ALVAREZ6]

I'll be surprised if he's ahead of Afellay in the peeking order tbh.

Cesc has a somewhat winning pedigree but he has never won a league title.

Jesus I completely forgot about Afellay...I'm sure he wants out already now that they signed Sanchez and still have Pedro. CROFL having so many bench players other teams in the league would kill for to have as starters, La Liga is retarded.

[ElNono]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

Xavi/Iniesta insurance.

[ElNono]

Lol. Mourinho really touched you in the soft spot.
I guess that's part of what makes him successful. Everyone hates him or loves him but no one is indifferent to him.

I love the game, and I hate egomaniacs like him giving the game a bad name. He's severely overrated too. He never coached a small team in his career.

[it's me]

Xavi/Iniesta insurance.

+1 ...... they needed a player like him but IMHO, not at that price.... I'd use that money to get a "cheap" good player to cover that position and two good defenders.

[ElNono]

Cesc gives Guardiola a backup to key guys: Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets. All key guys in Barça midfield for which he has no true quality reserves. It's the same reason they acquired Alexis Sanches, to have a quality reserve for Villa or Pedro.

They'll be playing 6 different competitions this season. That's a lot of games for a team that didn't even have pre-season training, and went on tour instead.

[ElNono]

+1 ...... they needed a player like him but IMHO, not at that price.... I'd use that money to get a "cheap" good player to cover that position and two good defenders.

If you looked at Thiago play yesterday, you can tell he's not ready or at the level to play against experienced teams. Cesc gives them that.

[lefty]

I love the game, and I hate egomaniacs like him giving the game a bad name. He's severely overrated too. He never coached a small team in his career.
Not saying that Porto was a small team when they won the Champions' League in 2004, but it was still a great achievement

I don't think a lot of coaches would have won a CL with that roster (again, not a bad roster, but not hall of famesque either)

I would like to see Guardiola winning the CL with that lineup

And if you want a severely overrated coach, look no further than Arsene Wenger

[TDMVPDPOY]

theres plenty of cheaper options...

[ElNono]

Not saying that Porto was a small team when they won the Champions' League in 2004, but it was still a great achievement

I don't think a lot of coaches would have won a CL with that roster (again, not a bad roster, but not hall of famesque either)

I would like to see Guardiola winning the CL with that lineup

And if you want a severely overrated coach, look no further than Arsene Wenger

They had an easy run that year, and Porto is number 1 or 2 in Portugal. The only seemingly complicated team was Manchester United in the first knockout stage. After that: Lyon, La Coruña and AS Monaco.

I don't disagree about Wenger, BTW. But at least he started from the bottom.

[ElNono]

theres plenty of cheaper options...

With that familiarity with their system? Who?

[TDMVPDPOY]

any clown whose played on the spanish team

[ElNono]

Like who?

[TDMVPDPOY]

like who?

mendieta

[quentin_compson]

I'll be surprised if he's ahead of Afellay in the peeking order tbh.

Not likely given they don't really play the same position.


Cesc has a somewhat winning pedigree but he has never won a league title.

Yeah, but is that really his fault? Even Messi wouldn't have won a title with the defenders running around the pitch for Arsenal the last couple of years.

I don't think that Cesc will primarily be a back-up. Even with the prestige thing in mind, I don't think Barca is that stupid.

[IronMaxipad]

Jona :cry

[ElNono]

mendieta

Gaizka? He retired from soccer in 2008 or so...

[TDMVPDPOY]

Gaizka? He retired from soccer in 2008 or so...

:D...should give team b players a few tryouts...

valencia fc is a farm team, should poach players

[lefty]

They had an easy run that year, and Porto is number 1 or 2 in Portugal. The only seemingly complicated team was Manchester United in the first knockout stage. After that: Lyon, La Coruña and AS Monaco.

I don't disagree about Wenger, BTW. But at least he started from the bottom.
Porto may be top 1 or 2 in Portugal, but the rest of that league is crap

I agree with you on the fact that Deportivo wasnt a real threat, but Lyon and Monaco were pretty good back then

[ElNono]

Porto may be top 1 or 2 in Portugal, but the rest of that league is crap

Which is my point. They don't have a competitive league all year round. A bit of over the top talent, and you're set there. It's either Sporting or Porto.


I agree with you on the fact that Deportivo wasnt a real threat, but Lyon and Monaco were pretty good back then

tbqh, I don't even remember who played for them. I do remember that was around the start of the decline of French football coming out of the '98 WC, but their best players (Zidane, Henry, Trezeguet, etc) all played overseas.

If you look at the knockout stages though, you can see Monaco did the legwork there, eliminating Madrid and Arsenal.

BTW, Morientes was the top goalscorer that year, even though Madrid was eliminated in the second knockout stage.

[I-Ball]

Which is my point. They don't have a competitive league all year round. A bit of over the top talent, and you're set there. It's either Sporting or Porto.



tbqh, I don't even remember who played for them. I do remember that was around the start of the decline of French football coming out of the '98 WC, but their best players (Zidane, Henry, Trezeguet, etc) all played overseas.

If you look at the knockout stages though, you can see Monaco did the legwork there, eliminating Madrid and Arsenal.

BTW, Morientes was the top goalscorer that year, even though Madrid was eliminated in the second knockout stage.

Morientes played for monaco in 2004. (scored twice against real in the quarter finals)

[ogait]

I love the game, and I hate egomaniacs like him giving the game a bad name. He's severely overrated too. He never coached a small team in his career.

Have to disagree with this. He took a mid level European team like Porto and won the Champions League. Haven't seen anything comparable to that lately tbh.

Now if you want to talk about anyone who hasn't coach a low level team, look no further than Guardiola. Actually he never coached any other team besides Barcelona. I would like to see him coach something else than his home team club witch almost plays by themselves (just look at the Spanish National Team) before I can pronounce him a world class coach.

Mourinho on the other hand has proved to be a winner in every place he has been. Further more both Chelsea and Inter got significantly worse after he left the clubs witch further proves that he hadn't that much of an easy job.

It's fine not to like it's style or personality but to question his competence is ridiculous.

[lefty]

Morientes played for monaco in 2004. (scored twice against real in the quarter finals)
Yep

[ElNono]

Morientes played for monaco in 2004. (scored twice against real in the quarter finals)

oops... I forgot. I thought he was still with Madrid. Thanks.

[ogait]

Which is my point. They don't have a competitive league all year round. A bit of over the top talent, and you're set there. It's either Sporting or Porto.


Actually it's mostly Porto and some Benfica, but that's not important. As you said there is very poor competition besides the top teams there, which should make it even more impressive that a low budget team like Porto, compare to the European giants, has managed to win it all.

[ElNono]

Have to disagree with this. He took a mid level European team like Porto and won the Champions League. Haven't seen anything comparable to that lately tbh.

You haven't seen anything like that lately because ManU, Madrid, Barça and the usual batch of Italian teams transitioned into powerhouses.

When Mou won that shit was around the time Greece won the Euro cup. Just a transition period.


Now if you want to talk about anyone who hasn't coach a low level team, look no further than Guardiola. Actually he never coached any other team besides Barcelona. I would like to see him coach something else than his home team club witch almost plays by themselves (just look at the Spanish National Team) before I can pronounce him a world class coach.

I would like to see him coach somewhere else too. I have a lot of respect for the kind of soccer his team plays, and I doubt he can pull that off in other clubs. When I talk about great coaches, I'm talking about guys like Ferguson or Del Bosque, who was not afraid to go to Besiktas after coaching Madrid, and won a World Cup too.

You look at Mourinho, and he is basically Capello. They don't know what it is to have to put a team together without gazillion dollars available.


Mourinho on the other hand has proved to be a winner in every place he has been. Further more both Chelsea and Inter got significantly worse after he left the clubs witch further proves that he hadn't that much of an easy job.

lol at the selective Mou fan memory. As soon as he left Chelsea, Avram Grant (who?) took over and put them in the CL final and finished 2nd in the EPL.
Inter was a powerhouse that won 3 Serie A tournaments in a row by the time Mourinho showed up. He should build a shrine to Mancini who put that team together for him.

If you want to argue he did a over-the-top job in Porto, then you could talk me into that. Nobody is saying he's incompetent. But he's severely overrated.

[ElNono]

Actually it's mostly Porto and some Benfica, but that's not important. As you said there is very poor competition besides the top teams there, which should make it even more impressive that a low budget team like Porto, compare to the European giants, has managed to win it all.

I meant Benfica, thanks.

It's called a fluke. See Greece Euro champs same year.

[lefty]

I meant Benfica, thanks.

It's called a fluke. See Greece Euro champs same year.
You're gonna upset Manu_Forever

[ElNono]

You're gonna upset Manu_Forever

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3664721548_119513a505.jpg

[ogait]

ElNono I get your points, even though I don't agree with them completely.

The one thing I must say about Mourinho is that I don't see him being in a club for a long time and as such it will be hard to compare him to guys like Del Bosque or Ferguson who had a long history with their respective clubs.

The point remains, he won wherever he coached.

It's hard to argue against facts, particularly when you compare what he did with what coaches in the same club did after and before him. Pelegrini, Ranieri, Mancini, Avram Graant, Rafa Benitez, Scolari, Leonardo, now Vilas Boas in hope of the second coming of Mourinho. They all had the same players and money and not even close the same results.

He already said he wanted to go back to coach in England so you can figure he isn't going to stay in Real that much longer either. Now it's just a matter of Barcelona to keep him from winning and then I will say that he finally found his match.

[ElNono]

ElNono I get your points, even though I don't agree with them completely.

The one thing I must say about Mourinho is that I don't see him being in a club for a long time and as such it will be hard to compare him to guys like Del Bosque or Ferguson who had a long history with their respective clubs.

The point remains, he won wherever he coached.

It's hard to argue against facts, particularly when you compare what he did with what coaches in the same club did after and before him. Pelegrini, Ranieri, Mancini, Avram Graant, Rafa Benitez, Scolari, Leonardo, now Vilas Boas in hope of the second coming of Mourinho. They all had the same players and money and not even close the same results.

He already said he wanted to go back to coach in England so you can figure he isn't going to stay in Real that much longer either. Now it's just a matter of Barcelona to keep him from winning and then I will say that he finally found his match.

It's ok. It's all opinion anyways, and everybody's entitled to one. I'm just upfront about it, so lefty gets the idea why I want his team to lose :lol

[DAF86]

Messi throwing up during the Supercopa game.


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lol still beign hangover from the vacations and still taping that ass.

[Venti Quattro]

Give it to Mou, he's really a good manager. Still bitchmade though.

[velik_m]

Now if you want to talk about anyone who hasn't coach a low level team, look no further than Guardiola. Actually he never coached any other team besides Barcelona. I would like to see him coach something else than his home team club which almost plays by themselves (just look at the Spanish National Team) before I can pronounce him a world class coach.


I would just like to point out, that best coached teams always look like they could play by themselves and like they don't need a coach. I actually consider it a mark of a great coach.

[joshdaboss]

Whats the point of getting Cesc really? After watching the game yesterday they needed more help in the back - not on their bench.

To make Messi even more overrated. lol Very much looking forward to the next world cup. 31/0. Let's get it.

[it's me]

To make Messi even more overrated. lol Very much looking forward to the next world cup. 31/0. Let's get it.

:lol.... Messi has been the best Argentina NT player almost every single game they have played.... but It's understandable that Messi haters will use his national TEAM failure as an excuse to easy their pain..... meanwhile the guy keeps shitting on Real Moudrid. :lmao

[it's me]

FWIW, I'm no Barça fan, more of a Mourinho hater. I remember the times when Real was a classy team, with great players and a gentleman for a coach (ie: Del Bosque).

Mourinho has turned great players into a bunch of whiners and dirty butthurt bitches. There's not one call against them that they're not rounding the ref and crying like somebody stole their candy. Mourinho himself is the epitome of bitchmade. He never loses a game, it's always the refs, the media, or a combination of both. The rival team cannot ever play better, nor can he ever make a mistake.

So it's always nice to look at a team that rarely, if ever, makes excuses walk in and beat them up. I really like Higuain, and I think Casillas is a top goalie and good guy, but tbh, it's not enough to offset the collection of bitchmade there.

Amazingly, after that display of dirty play and bad sportsmanship..... Real Moudrid is still complaining about the refs.... WOW just WOW I can't believe they actually think the ref was against them.....to me it's obvious now, it's a Mourinho's strategy... the crying is actually affecting the refs. Real Madrid isn't a fraction of the great club it used to be. :nope

[ElNono]

Amazingly, after that display of dirty play and bad sportsmanship..... Real Moudrid is still complaining about the refs.... WOW just WOW I can't believe they actually think the ref was against them.....to me it's obvious now, it's a Mourinho's strategy... the crying is actually affecting the refs. Real Madrid isn't a fraction of the great club it used to be. :nope

It's sad that if I have to list the top 3 butchers in the spanish league, they would all be from Madrid:

1) Pepe
2) Xabi Alonso
3) Khedira

and it's not close, IMO.

[lefty]

Yeah, those Barça players are angels

Give me a break :lmao

[ElNono]

Yeah, those Barça players are angels

Give me a break :lmao

I'm not even talking about Barça and you got mad, son... :lol

[lefty]

I'm not even talking about Barça and you got mad, son... :lol
When it comes to RMA-Barça, I'm very sensitive

[ElNono]

When it comes to RMA-Barça, I'm very sensitive

:lol

[Venti Quattro]

Messi looks ripped. But I hope that doesn't affect his agility and quickness.

[TDMVPDPOY]

4more hrs the return leg real at barca

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yeah, those Barça players are angels

Give me a break :lmao

Barca dives, Real dives and butchers. There's a difference.

[ALVAREZ6]

4more hrs the return leg real at barca

Madrid is gonna get slaughtered :lol



Pep: Madrid better than us
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/944845/barcelona's-pep-guardiola-talks-up-real-madrid?cc=5901

"In the first leg, Madrid were better, in these three days we have improved some things, but I believe they are still better," he said.

"That is the feeling I have, but every match is a story. If the return leg were in two weeks, it would be different. We will have to play better than we did at the Santiago Bernabeu to win the Supercopa.

"We will have to play with the kind of speed we could not put in our game the other day. Three days have passed, we have trained really well."

AKA, 3 of our top defenders didn't start (only 1 of these played), Xavi didn't start, Messi was throwing up from partying the night before because there's no reason to take Mourinho and Madrid seriously, the team barely practiced at all as a full squad in preparation for this season, RMA played their best lineup and yet despite all of these conditions they only managed to tie 2-2 at home :lol.


The thought of moving back to England must be stronger than ever in the Special One's mind, there is no victory to be had in Spain. I think a lot of Barca's ridiculous spending lately is simply to spite Mourinho and continue to shut him down. Of course they want to keep up with Madrid's spending as usual, but I have a feeling they want to completely dominate Madrid during these couple of years due to Mourinho.

[TDMVPDPOY]

The thought of moving back to England must be stronger than ever in the Special One's mind, there is no victory to be had in Spain. I think a lot of Barca's ridiculous spending lately is simply to spite Mourinho and continue to shut him down. Of course they want to keep up with Madrid's spending as usual, but I have a feeling they want to completely dominate Madrid during these couple of years due to Mourinho.

how many players on the rmd team is actually his signing? cant compare this team to the other teams he has manage where he had an input on who to bring in

[lefty]

Barca dives, Real dives and butchers. There's a difference.
Real men butcher :p:

[ALVAREZ6]

how many players on the rmd team is actually his signing? cant compare this team to the other teams he has manage where he had an input on who to bring in

Well they did fire Valdano for Mourinho, no? Anyway, not sure what point you're trying to make because whether or not Mourinho has made most of the signings doesn't matter. It's just about Barca's current squad and how RMA (or any team ) has small chances at dethroning them. Given their ego-maniac statuses, I'm pretty sure Mourinho and Ronaldo both have "Greatest Ever" aspirations, and if they don't change some things soon (like move out of Spain), those dreams will continue to get shat on by Barca.

It's unfortunate that Spanish football has come to this, a big 1-up war between 2 teams, at least it's the douchebags that are getting shat on for now. That's really the only reason why I don't strongly oppose the current strength of Barca, because their opponent is Mourinho and Ronaldo.

[lefty]

Mou and CR are both egomaniacs, but Jose is more a team guy than CR

CR is such a fucking ballhog, all he cares about is to score 40 goals/season

[ALVAREZ6]

Mou and CR are both egomaniacs, but Jose is more a team guy than CR

CR is such a fucking ballhog, all he cares about is to score 40 goals/season

Well naturally Jose has to stress the importance of team because a good coach manages a good team, but that's precisely it... In order for a coach to be considered great, his team has to play like a team.


And of course, CR meanwhile is busy taking the most shots of any player in La Liga throughout an entire season while scoring 40. Fortunate for him though, he has already subscribed to the monthly "I'm not obsessed about goals" statement program to cover him up.

[lefty]

If CR7 scores tonight, it will be his 100th goal with Madrid


Expect him to be on Super Ballhog mode today

[ElNono]

Mou and CR are both egomaniacs, but Jose is more a team guy than CR

CR is such a fucking ballhog, all he cares about is to score 40 goals/season

A good coach would sit his ass down for a while and give him something to think about.

[lefty]

A good coach would sit his ass down for a while and give him something to think about.
But CR is his fellow countryman :cry

[ElNono]

But CR is his fellow countryman :cry

:lol

Talking about fellow countryman, how many Portuguese fellas he brought in now? Four right? (CR, Pepe, Carvalho, Concetrao)?

[lefty]

:lol

Talking about fellow countryman, how many Portuguese fellas he brought in now? Four right? (CR, Pepe, Carvalho, Concetrao)?
No shit

It's the fucking Portuguese NT

If he can win with that squad, fine

I miss the times when RMA had its identity :(

(but I do like Coentrao, he is a keeper)

[DAF86]

A good coach would sit his ass down for a while and give him something to think about.

Ronaldo to be man of the match now :lol

[DAF86]

I think this could be the season where Madrid dethrones Barca, it has to happen someday.

[lefty]

I think this could be the season where Madrid dethrones Barca, it has to happen someday.
I have that feeling too, but the addition of Fabregas is a bit scary

[ALVAREZ6]

I think this could be the season where Madrid dethrones Barca, it has to happen someday.
I've thought the same earlier, simply because RMA had a great season last year despite losing the Liga race and it's always going to be close now with these two teams...they are becoming more even since Mourinho started, but at the same time becoming way stronger than the rest of La Liga. The entire championship is decided on a few simple mistakes that can affect game results, because everyone knows both teams are gonna shit on every other team in the league even while playing their B squads.

Now that they added Sanchez and Fabregas though, Barca has so much depth that Madrid will have to play a nearly perfect season to win. Barca will be able to play a very strong lineup in every game now. Last year, if Iniesta or Xavi were injured and missed only a few weeks it could be the decision maker. Now, they have a guy who was just captain of Arsenal yet he's the 3rd best attacking midfielder in the roster.

[TDMVPDPOY]

fck is there an english feed

[lefty]

Real Madrid: Casillas; Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Coentrão, Alonso, Khedira, Di María, Özil, Ronaldo and Benzema

Coentrao starting, good :tu

Sahin is injured, so fucking Khedira has to start :pctoss

[lefty]

If Barça wins the supercup, Fabregas will have won more titles than he ever had in 6 years with Arsenal

[ogait]

:lol

Talking about fellow countryman, how many Portuguese fellas he brought in now? Four right? (CR, Pepe, Carvalho, Concetrao)?


Pepe and CR were already there prior to Mourinho. He brought Carvalho, a player who has a long successful story with Mourinho in Porto and Chelsea and now Coentrão.

[scott]

Just watched the replay of the 1st leg and thought it was live, tbh. The good news is now I have a whole 'nother match I can watch.

[IronMaxipad]

lol madrid

[ElNono]

crofl

[ElNono]

rmao

[ElNono]

Higuain should start, IMO

[Libri]

lol RM's defense

[IronMaxipad]

rofl barca

[ElNono]

tied game

[Libri]

Gooooooooooool!!!!!

[ElNono]

gaynaldo got his

[ElNono]

dat defense

[Libri]

Excellent by Casillas.

[Libri]

Oh crap, that was close by CR.

[ElNono]

Khedira with the axe

[ogait]

Real is playing well but it feels like they can suffer another goal on the counter at any time. Their offside line is sucking because Sergio Ramos is always late putting Barça last man always on side.

[ElNono]

:wow Ozil... can't miss that

[ogait]

Weak shit by Ozil.

[Libri]

:bang

[IronMaxipad]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la6us85jfz1qb8z6p.gif

[ALVAREZ6]

If Barça wins the supercup, Fabregas will have won more titles than he ever had in 6 years with Arsenal

lol "titles"




BTW, Pique is such trash I'm tired of that scrub. He only plays professional football because he's tall. CONSTANTLY making mistakes that lead to dangerous plays, not just influenced by this game, throughout all of last year too.

[ElNono]

gaynaldo won't pass a ball

messi looks like a match... his head is all red from sunburn

[SAtown]

:lmao Iniesta's acting

[ALVAREZ6]

They just said Puyol will be back end of the month...I would be all for benching Pique, playing Abidal in the middle in his place, and moving Mascherano over to LB.


and CROFL, Madrid can possibly stop an offensive player without bringing him down :lol

[ElNono]

Barça problem right now is that they're too slow...

[ElNono]

rmao

[ALVAREZ6]

Rmao

[ElNono]

messi got his

[IronMaxipad]

God scores

[Reeko_Htown]

Pique looked like Messi with that pass.

lol Mourinho :downspin:

[Libri]

Mr. Shakira

[MannyIsGod]

Messi, good lord.

[Reeko_Htown]

lol. Iniesta schooled Ramos twice.

[ElNono]

good game so far

[ElNono]

and lol gaynaldo trying to defend messi on that goal

[ALVAREZ6]

Barça problem right now is that they're too slow...

Oh yeah...you can tell they haven't been practicing much together and individually they aren't in top form either. There's a lot more hesitation going on in the attack, and they don't seem to be moving as well as they normally do without the ball.

And still winning into halftime. AKA, mid-season form Barca will dump on Madrid 5-0 again.

[ElNono]

Madrid looked good too. Benzema is dead weight though... at least so far. Gaynaldo needs to let go of the ball a bit. That defense is probably the weakest link though.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

I love RM - but god damn if I would not love to see a still of Messi scoring that goal with Ronaldo's face. Gotta be a fucking classic.

[ElNono]

:lmao Pepe

[ALVAREZ6]

crofl how the fuck is that a foul
crofl pepe

[ElNono]

getting chippy

[IronMaxipad]

Mourinho :lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

goddamn IDK why i'm always pumped to watch these "clasicos"...well, I guess I do know why and it's because they give me a chance to watch Messi play, but fuck I don't know how many more I can take. Same sorry ass BS every time.

[Reeko_Htown]

Cesc is warming up!!

[ALVAREZ6]

lol Pepe....funniest excuse for a football player

[ElNono]

Pepe with the razor elbow

[Libri]

Higuain in

[Libri]

RM's defense just watching. :rolleyes

[Reeko_Htown]

oh Pepe...

[IronMaxipad]

Pepe again with dat elbow

[MannyIsGod]

Definitely feels as though an equalizer is coming.

[ElNono]

:wow Ramos

[Libri]

Ramos :bang

[ElNono]

Barça looks tired... Mou started with the :cry :cry :cry

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

THAT should have been the equalizer. God damn.

[ElNono]

Pedro has such a weird way to run

[ElNono]

Adriano for Villa?

[ElNono]

Now these cats are flopping like crazy

[ElNono]

Kaka incoming

[Libri]

Forgot Kaka was still on the team. :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Roll pedro onto the fucking sides.

[IronMaxipad]

Tied game sons

[ElNono]

There it is... 2-2

[Libri]

Gooooool!!!! :downspin:

[ElNono]

Dead weight scores

[SAtown]

Pardon me for stepping into this fine circle jerk you guys got going on but LMFAO Barca, and LMFAO Madrid for wasting Kaka's time on the bench.

[ElNono]

Cesc in

[ElNono]

Pardon me for stepping into this fine circle jerk you guys got going on but LMFAO Barca, and LMFAO Madrid for wasting Kaka's time on the bench.

who? scrub should've stayed on the bench, tbh

[ElNono]

ouch, that's gonna hurt for a while

[MannyIsGod]

Knew taht equalizer was coming. Now here comes the winner.

[IronMaxipad]

:wow

[ElNono]

manny called it :lol

[ElNono]

lol sons

[Libri]

:wow

[IronMaxipad]

Manny is God

[Reeko_Htown]

Cesc about to get a cup!

[ElNono]

rmao Messi-Casillas make a great poster duo

[ElNono]

time to watch Mou :cry :cry :cry

[MannyIsGod]

CROFL there was the winner alright.

:(

[ElNono]

feel bad for lefty, but this is starting to look like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football

[ElNono]

boxing!

[SAtown]

Barca = pure class

[ElNono]

bitchmade sore losers, tbh.. wonder they get that from

[Reeko_Htown]

Marcelo earning his paycheck. that dirty little bitch.

Now it's a Classico.