Game of Thrones - 14 minute preview

[Robz4000]

That was one short ass episode...

This.

[Trainwreck2100]

i bet the night king walks by winterfell to attack kings landing, that's the only reason for the gold company to be there. Also I loled that brom had a scene with the hand instead of the queen, because they don't work together because leana headey hates his ass.

[lefty20]

The collective reaction to the NK adding a dragon to his ranks was rather underwhelming, tbh.

[Reck]

That was one short ass episode...

No shorter than any other. It’s 54 minutes long.

Overall not a bad episode to kickstart the season but there were some cringey moments like the dragon giving Jon the look. I mean..what?

[redzero]

I thought is was a great episode. It's really impossible to please everybody at this point. If we get reunions we wanted to see, it's padding and fanservice. If we don't, people will ask why the characters didn't interact. If there is world building and setting the pieces, nothing happens. If the plot speeds along, people will call it rushed. D&D know that everybody can't be pleased, and they know that all the people who bitch will watch every episode of the final season. It never fails.

Also, anybody who agrees with the Northerners being distrustful of Daenerys, is a moron. She doesn't have to be there, Sansa. Why are you acting like a bitch to her when she is trying to help? I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?

Oh well, I read the spoilers anyway, and I know this fight so many people crave against Jon and Daenerys isn't going to happen.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?



yeah it's pretty much moot at this point prepping for the final battle


That last scene has me back on the Jamie is AA and Bran is NK theory, Jamie is gonna have to kill Bran to win the war.

[RD2191]

Weak episode, terrible writing. I'm not usually a GOT hater but it was a rather underwhelming episode.

[HarlemHeat37]

There's nothing GOT will be able to do to make people happy, tbh..the hype has reached historic levels, it's a social media phenomenon in addition to the usual popularity that comes with a great tv show..

Between the hype and the book elitists, there's virtually no way that it's going to end on a high note..

[BD24]

It was ok. I get that it was just a setup episode though. Will see how the rest of the season starts to shake out

[Spurminator]

There's nothing GOT will be able to do to make people happy, tbh..the hype has reached historic levels, it's a social media phenomenon in addition to the usual popularity that comes with a great tv show..

Between the hype and the book elitists, there's virtually no way that it's going to end on a high note..

People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.

[spurraider21]

i dont mind having a setup episode, generally. and it's not like the content was poor in 8.1, but in a season with only 6 episodes, it just worry they're going to have to rush/cram a lot like they did in season 7

[spurraider21]

People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.
from my understanding they've still been working with GRRM as a consultant even though the book material is up. i believe i had read something about them having access to his working manuscript, etc.

but without an actual book with dialogue, pacing, etc written out, they've had to take a lot more liberty and its going to feel different... and it has. with that said, even in game of thrones, in a series that has gone on this long, there will always be absurd amounts of plot armor for certain players.

[HarlemHeat37]

People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.

That's fine, but the expectations should be different than they were at the beginning of the series..I don't think anybody expected it to become THIS big..

It's been a mainstream show for years now, they wanted to attract a wider audience IMO..as with everything that goes mainstream, certain elements were going to suffer in favor of commercialism and attempting to appeal to the masses..

There's nothing they could do to make me enjoy the show as much as I did during the first few seasons, but I fully expected this transition once I noticed how popular the show was getting and how mainstream it had become..

Even ignoring all that, I can't think of many historically popular shows that had a widely satisfying ending..maybe Breaking Bad?

[lefty20]

Basically a prologue episode, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

GOT is also in a weird place where they need to balance the fight scenes vs. the dialogue and storylines.. they're spending more than any show ever has(even compared to blockbuster movies, actually) and most of that is allocated to the dragons and the major war scenes..

It's a tough balance..personally, I prefer the dialogue and storylines over the fight scenes, but now that they have a much wider audience, they have to cater to both the large % of fans that watch it for the action scenes and the people like myself who prefer the chess match..

[spurraider21]

also, i really dont get the point of jon being the supposed "rightful heir to the throne"

a) as a recruit and former member of the nights watch, he renounced all titles and birthrights. so even if he was the heir, he renounced it by taking the black. end of story
b) targaryens were booted out of the throne. they can kick and scream all they want, but the seven kingdoms all recognized the legitimacy of the baratheon throne. they recognized that legitimacy full well knowing that viserys targaryen was alive... and he would have been the "rightful heir" as the direct descendant of the previous king. its clear that the "targaryen birthright" no longer means shit. the seven kingdoms dont recognize them as legitimate rulers any more.
c) jon has made it clear he doesnt want any of this. he didnt want to be king in the north. he certainly doesnt want to be king of the seven kingdoms. he already believes enough in daenerys to the point where he wouldn't actually stake a claim for it.

considering C, the only way this has an impact is as follows:

1) daenerys learns of jon's position, and feeling threatened, turns against him leading to some drama in that direction
2) daenerys dies, and jon is able to stand in her place as all he followers: unsullied, the dragons, tyrells, greyjoys acknowledge that jon is as good as daenerys was and has the same claim of legitimacy she ever did

[gambit1990]

i thought the rescuing yara part was way too easy.

and not to get too literal but the dragons should have saddles... no way you don't fall off at those speeds.

[Reck]

i thought the rescuing yara part was way too easy.

and not to get too literal but the dragons should have saddles... no way you don't fall off at those speeds.

Nah the Yara and whole Iron Island storyline is played out and stale at this point. I'm glad they spent their 5 minutes so we can get to more interesting stories going forward. Another rescue Yara/Theon scene and I will puke.

[Trill Clinton]

I'm expecting this to be the weakest episode of the season. The flying dragons scene was wack to me but could be the setup for the epic dragon battle we all know is coming. Hopefully they spent more money on the cgi next time around.

[Reck]

I thought is was a great episode. It's really impossible to please everybody at this point. If we get reunions we wanted to see, it's padding and fanservice. If we don't, people will ask why the characters didn't interact. If there is world building and setting the pieces, nothing happens. If the plot speeds along, people will call it rushed. D&D know that everybody can't be pleased, and they know that all the people who bitch will watch every episode of the final season. It never fails.

Also, anybody who agrees with the Northerners being distrustful of Daenerys, is a moron. She doesn't have to be there, Sansa. Why are you acting like a bitch to her when she is trying to help? I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?

Oh well, I read the spoilers anyway, and I know this fight so many people crave against Jon and Daenerys isn't going to happen.

How extensive are these leaked spoilers that I keep hearing about? All of season 8 or just a handful of eps?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

also, i really dont get the point of jon being the supposed "rightful heir to the throne"

a) as a recruit and former member of the nights watch, he renounced all titles and birthrights. so even if he was the heir, he renounced it by taking the black. end of story
b) targaryens were booted out of the throne. they can kick and scream all they want, but the seven kingdoms all recognized the legitimacy of the baratheon throne. they recognized that legitimacy full well knowing that viserys targaryen was alive... and he would have been the "rightful heir" as the direct descendant of the previous king. its clear that the "targaryen birthright" no longer means shit. the seven kingdoms dont recognize them as legitimate rulers any more.
c) jon has made it clear he doesnt want any of this. he didnt want to be king in the north. he certainly doesnt want to be king of the seven kingdoms. he already believes enough in daenerys to the point where he wouldn't actually stake a claim for it.

considering C, the only way this has an impact is as follows:

1) daenerys learns of jon's position, and feeling threatened, turns against him leading to some drama in that direction
2) daenerys dies, and jon is able to stand in her place as all he followers: unsullied, the dragons, tyrells, greyjoys acknowledge that jon is as good as daenerys was and has the same claim of legitimacy she ever did

a) He died so his watch ended..
b) thus the game
c) smartest thing he's done all series

1) Jaime is azor ahai and will be king is my prediction.

[spurraider21]

a) He died so his watch ended..
b) thus the game
c) smartest thing he's done all series

1) Jaime is azor ahai and will be king is my prediction.
Would that even matter though? He renounced his titles. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Would that even matter though? He renounced his titles. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?

I really don't know. I just think he was only able to be named king in da norff due to his watch being ended and all the vows he said being invalid bc you pledge that stuff until death

[spurraider21]

I really don't know. I just think he was only able to be named king in da norff due to his watch being ended and all the vows he said being invalid bc you pledge that stuff until death
That’s probably how they’ll treat it.

I just figured by taking your oath you forfeit all titles. Even if your watch “ended” you still lost those titles but nothing prevents you from gaining new title. Then again doing shit after your watch ended doesn’t really have precedent

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6dx676/spoilers_main_ive_been_working_on_a_theory_about/

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't know why chicks are so crazy about this.

[AaronY]

Oscar Isaac lol

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N3pxAHBck8U/maxresdefault.jpg

[AaronY]

Full video

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[Spurminator]

1) Jaime is azor ahai and will be king is my prediction.

I'll be honest, I had to look up Azor Ahai to see who you were talking about. He's barely been mentioned in the show... sounds like he's much more prominent in the books. I kind of hope that isn't one of the series big twists because they haven't done nearly enough buildup on that.

[spurraider21]

I'll be honest, I had to look up Azor Ahai to see who you were talking about. He's barely been mentioned in the show... sounds like he's much more prominent in the books. I kind of hope that isn't one of the series big twists because they haven't done nearly enough buildup on that.
it was mentioned in season 7 when denaerys and jon were talking iirc... somebody referred to azor ahai being translated to "the prince who is promised" and then missandei corrected them saying the translation isn't that specific and is "prince or princess who is promised"

[Reck]

Would that even matter though? He renounced his titles. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?

Are you talking about Jon or Jaime?

Both renounced their "titles" although in the case of Jon, he didn't know any better. He was just wanting to get away from Caitling who hated him.

Either way, I'm in agreement with LaMarcus Bryant here. Jaime makes more sense as Azor Ahai than Jon, imo.

Hell, The night King is a better fit if you read all the wild theorist out there.

[spurraider21]

Are you talking about Jon or Jaime?

Both renounced their "titles" although in the case of Jon, he didn't know any better. He was just wanting to get away from Caitling who hated him.

Either way, I'm in agreement with LaMarcus Bryant here. Jaime makes more sense as Azor Ahai than Jon, imo.

Hell, The night King is a better fit if you read all the wild theorist out there.
im on board with the bran=night king theory

i didnt say i thought jon was azor ahai... i just said he renounced his titles so his "reightful heir" shit doesnt matter imho

[Leetonidas]

Would that even matter though? He renounced his titles. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?

I would assume they'll get away with it because Jon Snow renounced his titles, but Aegon Targaryen did not

[spurraider21]

I would assume they'll get away with it because Jon Snow renounced his titles, but Aegon Targaryen did not
lol its the man who takes the oath, not the name.

i think the more likely copout is the "his watch ended, she that stuff no longer applies"

[FrostKing]

Dragons

Lol

[spurraider21]

Dragons

Lol
i pity you tbh... you're so bitter about so many things. must be an unhappy life

[Spurminator]

i pity you tbh... you're so bitter about so many things. must be an unhappy life

Plus it's a weird take from the guy with the Thronesyest sounding username on this forum.

[BD24]

Dragons

Lol
Poland

Lol

[BD24]

Dragons

Lol
Poland

Lol

[Brazil]

Racism

Lol

fify fwiw tbh

[FrostKing]

Poland

Lol
The jealousy

[spurraider21]

Poland

Lol
even his god trump posts GoT memes :lol

[Leetonidas]

:lol country only famous for being invaded and some sausage

[BD24]

The jealousy
No, I have far superior German genetics. My ancestors were busy bending your ancestors over tbh

[FrostKing]

No, I have far superior German genetics. My ancestors were busy bending your ancestors over tbh
And now your turning into a Turkish colony, bitch.

Germanstan

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/07/23/ap_18204452365530_custom-daceea955d9cccf6ca67666c2c7a71d110d88d25-s800-c85.jpg

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I'll be honest, I had to look up Azor Ahai to see who you were talking about. He's barely been mentioned in the show... sounds like he's much more prominent in the books. I kind of hope that isn't one of the series big twists because they haven't done nearly enough buildup on that.

That's the prince who was promised, the entire point of the lord of light. Sexy tits Melissandre thought it was Stannis, then they assumed it was John..

[spurraider21]

That's the prince who was promised, the entire point of the lord of light. Sexy tits Melissandre thought it was Stannis, then they assumed it was John..
lord of light did bring jon back... so there's that. then again it also brought berric back several times, and we haven't really seen him do anything significant yet

[LaMarcus Bryant]

lord of light did bring jon back... so there's that. then again it also brought berric back several times, and we haven't really seen him do anything significant yet
Yeah the lord of light arguably the only real source of magic in the world.
So I think A. A. will play a role, or should anyways

[spurraider21]

Yeah the lord of light arguably the only real source of magic in the world.
So I think A. A. will play a role, or should anyways
Dragons too. Remember Pratt pree or whatever that sorcerer dude was

[Xevious]

I don't know why chicks are so crazy about this.
Crazy about what? Good television shows? Is that just a guy thing? Chicks only watch soap operas and Housewives of Whatever in your world?

[Reck]

Holy fuck. For some reason I thought we were a week or two away. I'm going to have to go into hibernation for a while to avoid spoilers. I'm going to be out of town for a while and I won't get a chance to start this until I get back (may try to wait until it's over).

There's also Endgame and Cobra Kai I have to watch.

How's this working out? :lol

There's always a cuck that wants to talk about Game of Thrones at work. I dont know how you can even avoid the chit chat in between passes.

[Xevious]

How's this working out? :lol

There's always a cuck that wants to talk about Game of Thrones at work. I dont know how you can even avoid the chit chat in between passes.
Eh, so far so good. I figure the first episode is pretty harmless anyway. I'm going to be out of town and more or less offline for the next couple weeks, but I don't know how I'll last past that because I'm sure shit will have gone down by then and people will be talking about it when I go back to work. :lol

[InRareForm]

There might be a dragon in winterfell in the crypts and the night king will bring it back to life?

[Reck]

There might be a dragon in winterfell in the crypts and the night king will bring it back to life?

The Night king is pretty overpowered already. Giving him a second dragon is overkill.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Crazy about what? Good television shows? Is that just a guy thing? Chicks only watch soap operas and Housewives of Whatever in your world?

Gothic fantasy fiction.

Before there was GoT there was Twilight.

[Reck]

Gothic fantasy fiction.

Before there was GoT there was Twilight.

Where are you getting gothic vibes from?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Where are you getting gothic vibes from?

Dragons
Magic
"Kings and queens"
"Knights and renegades"
Medieval vibes
Fantasy fiction
Entirely filmed in various parts of Europe
Daenarys Targyaren's hair

etc...

I missed one that fits in that category, before GoT craze and after Twilight craze... Hunger Games.

[leemajors]

Gothic fantasy fiction.

Before there was GoT there was Twilight.

The first book came out in 1995 and was always pretty popular. As usual you really don’t know what you are talking about

[redzero]

I like the new episode (lol German Amazon Prime). Jaime probably has the most screentime out of everybody, and he's great as always. There are no dragons at all in this episode, which probably hasn't happened since season six. Ghost makes appears in the background of one scene atop the Walls of Winterfell with Jon, Edd, and Sam.

If you are one of those retards who needs their action, then skip this episode. Otherwise, you will have to settle for characters interacting and planning the upcoming battle.

For those who think I am bullshitting:

http://i67.tinypic.com/2s0crgi.jpg

[lefty20]

This was a good one. Love me some Tormund. Can't wait for next week.

[gambit1990]

really don’t arya. hope she dies the next episode tbh. would’ve liked to see have seen some euron.

[spurraider21]

Lame of Thrones

im fine with a slow burn but not if you only have 6 episodes to work with

[Reck]

This episode was better than the first.

Thought it hinted at who might actually die fairly strongly. I think Theon, and therefore Bran will mostly likely die in their efforts to draw out the Night King.

Bran seems pretty useless. He doesn't even know how to deal with the Night King let along how to defeat him. The "No one ever tried" line was kind of a give away about his own future.

Seems to me his usefulness stopped at finding out who Jon really was.

I'm 50/50 on Tyrion. Things aren't looking too good for him. Way too much talk and foreshadowing about him dying in this episode.

Grey Worm talking about touring the country with Missandei is a fate sealer too. :lol

[redzero]

Nobody else finds Tyrion suspicious? How long can he keep fucking up before people start to wonder if he is doing it on purpose? He's already on his last leg with Daenerys.

[BD24]

Did we really need an hour of everyone holding their dicks in winterfell? What a shit episode tbh

[chunticakes]

Did we really need an hour of everyone holding their dicks in winterfell? What a shit episode tbh

Same thing I thought fam. I felt like they could have combined these two episodes especially considering how short the season is going to be. They're going to rush it again like last season.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I mean if there werent 6 total episodes this season it wouldn't bug the shit out of me for so much set up.

GoT will go down as an excellent TV case study on writing quality based on source materials

[spurraider21]

they should just ship bran's ass to kings landing to draw the undead army there tbh :lol

also imo, based on the footage we've seen of people running in the crypts, i think the night king is gonna resurrect the dead that have been buried there.

[Reck]

I dont get the complaints people have for the first two episodes. There is nothing wrong with spending a couple of episodes with just the characters getting together and having their last moments in front of a fire and shooting the shit.

People seem to forget this show spent the first 2 seasons with people just talking with minimal action.

Is not like episode 3,4,5 and 6 won't be an hour and 20 minutes each so cool your horses. :lol

[spurraider21]

I dont get the complaints people have for the first two episodes. There is nothing wrong with spending a couple of episodes with just the characters getting together and having their last moments in front of a fire and shooting the shit.

People seem to forget this show spent the first 2 seasons with people just talking with minimal action.

Is not like episode 3,4,5 and 6 won't be an hour and 20 minutes each so cool your horses. :lol
this show spent 7 seasons building up the army of the dead and they're going to have it all resolve in a 1-2 episode battle?

[Reck]

this show spent 7 seasons building up the army of the dead and they're going to have it all resolve in a 1-2 episode battle?

Actually they spent most of it on Dany's conquest for the Throne and the characters that matter.

What are you looking for here? A 30 episode goku vs grieza type battle arch? get real.

[Reck]

Here's an interesting theory already out there.

The Night King won't even be at Winterfell. He's making a pit stop at Kings Landing and starting a war out there too.

[spurraider21]

Actually they spent most of it on Dany's conquest for the Throne and the characters that matter.

What are you looking for here? A 30 episode goku vs grieza type battle arch? get real.
or Dany devolving from the great white hope to just another power hungry tyrant. she's already paranoid. lost a dragon. now thinks jon might be plotting against her. doesnt trust sansa. barely trusts tyrion. imo she's gonna go overboard and get killed. jon will take control of her dragons.

i never said the dead have been the focal point of the show... they've been given alarmingly little screentime for how much they've been talked about though. feels like there have been a few seasons already where the final scene was the army of the dead slowly marching south, time and time again. we've been reminded of this epic threat ad nauseam. bran's whole journey has been all about the dead. jons entire journey has been all about the dead. sam was sent to the citadel to study how to deal with the dead stannis gave up his crusade to take the throne (temporarily) so that he can deal with the dead. daenerys abandoned her conquest of king's landing so she can deal with the treat of the dead.

it just feels weird for it all to come down to a single battlefield event. seemed much bigger than that.

i think it makes more sense for the dead to march past winterfell, maybe sending a portion of their troops there as a decoy, and marching straight to kings landing

[redzero]

I think the show can be wrapped up in 300 minutes. People are acting like there are so many storylines left when there isn't. There's no fake Aegon like there is in the books. There's the battle against the Army of The Dead and there's the battle against Cersei. Obviously, a shitload of people are going to die next Sunday, which will further simplify the plot. For all we know, the Night King will appear at Winterfell and then King's Landing, combining both conflicts.

[Spurminator]

this show spent 7 seasons building up the army of the dead and they're going to have it all resolve in a 1-2 episode battle?

It would have seemed really rushed to me if the battle happened in episode 2. And we definitely don't need 2 episodes devoted to the battle. One is plenty.

I liked this episode. Devoted to all of our favorite characters and how they behave when death is literally approaching. The show has been overdue to slow down. There's really not a whole lot left to accomplish, I think the episodes they have left are plenty of time.

[DJR210]

I liked the episode.. Lot's of dialog, but entertaining dialog IMO. It was the calm before the storm, that's all.

[spurraider21]

again, i dont mind the slow burn of a show, doesnt all have to be fireworks. just seems like there should be more urgency given the 6 episode season

[spursfan09]

I think Winterfell will fall and the last battles I’ll take place in Kings landing

[BD24]

really don’t arya. hope she dies the next episode tbh. would’ve liked to see have seen some euron.
This tbh. They have made her insufferable. All of a sudden she is some kind of bad ass at everything? She was able to spar with Brienne of Tarth who is one of the best fighters on the show all of a sudden? Fuck that noise.

[Reck]

This tbh. They have made her insufferable. All of a sudden she is some kind of bad ass at everything? She was able to spar with Brienne of Tarth who is one of the best fighters on the show all of a sudden? Fuck that noise.

Brienne would have wrecked her if she was actually trying to kill her. On just brute force alone.

[Reck]

I think Winterfell will fall and the last battles I’ll take place in Kings landing

This would suck.

Assuming you mean everyone in Winterfell dies, there is no incentive to keep watching a bunch of nobodies (The golden company) try to fight off the Night King.

In order for a battle of this magnitude to work on an emotional level, you need people you actually care about. Not sure the golden company or Euron are it. :lol

My hope is the Night King makes a B line for Kings Landing and torches the city, then flies back to Winterfell and join the ongoing battle there.

[johnsmith]

Lame of Thrones

im fine with a slow burn but not if you only have 6 episodes to work with

I one million percent agree. Wife says it’s because I’m too “simple”, but clearly she’s wrong in this instance....they need to pick up steam for the battle next week and then not slow down with so much filler for the home stretch.

[spurraider21]

i mean even if they give it the longest battle in TV/movie history and have ~70 minutes of a battle next episode, i still dont feel that's doing it justice. this conflict has been built up for 7 seasons. it cant just be another long battle.

battle of the bastards was a GREAT sequence, but even if you take the glory of that and tack on another 30 minutes, that conflict didnt have the same amount of buildup. same with blackwater. we didnt really care about stannis at that time.

a better example is how they handled the conflict in season 7. euron attacking yara's fleet in one scene, showing the unsullied take casterly rock, then the lannisters taking highgarden, then the dragon attack on the convoy. you had a bunch of different set pieces all within the scope of a great conflict/war. and that makes sense given how much buildup dany's conquest got.

this battle with the dead should be that and then some.

[BD24]

i mean even if they give it the longest battle in TV/movie history and have ~70 minutes of a battle next episode, i still dont feel that's doing it justice. this conflict has been built up for 7 seasons. it cant just be another long battle.

battle of the bastards was a GREAT sequence, but even if you take the glory of that and tack on another 30 minutes, that conflict didnt have the same amount of buildup. same with blackwater. we didnt really care about stannis at that time.

a better example is how they handled the conflict in season 7. euron attacking yara's fleet in one scene, showing the unsullied take casterly rock, then the lannisters taking highgarden, then the dragon attack on the convoy. you had a bunch of different set pieces all within the scope of a great conflict/war. and that makes sense given how much buildup dany's conquest got.

this battle with the dead should be that and then some.
Yep. Battle with the dead should be a multiple episode affair. The show writers are just doing fan fiction at this point though tbh.

[Reck]

Yep. Battle with the dead should be a multiple episode affair. The show writers are just doing fan fiction at this point though tbh.

They have to set up the battle[s] though.

Admittedly, I dont know how they plan to do the second big battle that's supposed to take place right after this one. The fact they gave the Night King the first round tells me he wasn't the end game, Cersei is.

It would be awkward to jump into battle mode from episode 1 or 2. Perhaps they needed to make the last season a 10 episode season instead. Cant please everyone I guess.

[HarlemHeat37]

Good episode, loved the interactions of the characters and reunions.. obviously they had to emphasize certain characters before their inevitable death, too..

GOT has a massive following now, not everybody wants to watch 6 episodes of battle scenes, you have to mix it up..the next few episodes are probably going to be HEAVY with war, they can't do that for every episode of a season..

[johnsmith]

Good episode, loved the interactions of the characters and reunions.. obviously they had to emphasize certain characters before their inevitable death, too..

GOT has a massive following now, not everybody wants to watch 6 episodes of battle scenes, you have to mix it up..the next few episodes are probably going to be HEAVY with war, they can't do that for every episode of a season..

That’s really the main point that I refuse to acknowledge....I know they have to please more than just me....but damnit, I just don’t care!

Big weekend coming though....Endgame and then this!

[HarlemHeat37]

That’s really the main point that I refuse to acknowledge....I know they have to please more than just me....but damnit, I just don’t care!

Big weekend coming though....Endgame and then this!

It's such a unique show, it's rare to get both action fans and dialogue fans watching the same shit, can't think of many examples like it..tough balance to mix for everybody involved in the show..

I've been re-watching the first few seasons with my girl and there's no doubt that it was a much better show, though..obviously it got difficult for them when they lost GRR Martin's script, but I maintain that having to write in the grown dragons and all the Night King shit has been too much to handle..

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It's such a unique show, it's rare to get both action fans and dialogue fans watching the same shit, can't think of many examples like it..tough balance to mix for everybody involved in the show..

I've been re-watching the first few seasons with my girl and there's no doubt that it was a much better show, though..obviously it got difficult for them when they lost GRR Martin's script, but I maintain that having to write in the grown dragons and all the Night King shit has been too much to handle..

The Dialogue is very Marvel-esque lately, there's no comparison to earlier seasons.
Danny telling Sansa her first man "was taller", lmao, I mean really?
The character this new everyone-quippy dialogue works for the best is Tormund :lol that guy is just too damn loveable

[LaMarcus Bryant]

they should just ship bran's ass to kings landing to draw the undead army there tbh :lol

also imo, based on the footage we've seen of people running in the crypts, i think the night king is gonna resurrect the dead that have been buried there.

I've read some theories that the dead Starks will rise to protect the living hiding there. Who really knows tho

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Jamie is Azor Ahai theory is gaining steam :stirpot::stirpot::stirpot::stirpot::stirpot:


OTOH if Jaime does die defending Brienne, which by itself is highly likely (or vice versa..) Jaime can still fullfil the valonquar prophecy but Arya stealing his face and killing Cersei wearing his face

[BD24]

The Dialogue is very Marvel-esque lately, there's no comparison to earlier seasons.
Danny telling Sansa her first man "was taller", lmao, I mean really?
The character this new everyone-quippy dialogue works for the best is Tormund :lol that guy is just too damn loveable
Yea. The writing has gotten pretty bad :lol

[spursfan09]

This would suck.

Assuming you mean everyone in Winterfell dies, there is no incentive to keep watching a bunch of nobodies (The golden company) try to fight off the Night King.

In order for a battle of this magnitude to work on an emotional level, you need people you actually care about. Not sure the golden company or Euron are it. :lol

My hope is the Night King makes a B line for Kings Landing and torches the city, then flies back to Winterfell and join the ongoing battle there.

I think most will die because first of all why would you place people in the crypt knowing the night king raises the dead. Also many will die in battle but not the main ones. They will flee south for another battle in kings landing and be forced to fight together.

[redzero]

I think most will die because first of all why would you place people in the crypt knowing the night king raises the dead. Also many will die in battle but not the main ones. They will flee south for another battle in kings landing and be forced to fight together.

First of all, most of the dead bodies in the crypts should be dust by now or a pile of bones (not still connected), since the joints would have wasted away. Second, the bodies are in stone tombs with stone statues on top of them. The wight from last season's finale couldn't get out of a wooden box, so if wights can get out of stone tombs, I will be surprised. Third, and this might just be a book thing only, but I have read that there are magic spells keeping evil out of the crypts.

Of course, the dead in the crypts could rise up anyway next episode, but I doubt it.

[BD24]

First of all, most of the dead bodies in the crypts should be dust by now or a pile of bones (not still connected), since the joints would have wasted away. Second, the bodies are in stone tombs with stone statues on top of them. The wight from last season's finale couldn't get out of a wooden box, so if wights can get out of stone tombs, I will be surprised. Third, and this might just be a book thing only, but I have read that there are magic spells keeping evil out of the crypts.

Of course, the dead in the crypts could rise up anyway next episode, but I doubt it.
Thinking the show writers give a shit about logic :lol

they are all about shock and awe at this point. Good storytelling be damned

[InRareForm]

I think Melisandre will do something big in this episode tonight

[InRareForm]

So much bitching in this thread lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Great episode in terms of production, suspense, etc, but terrible result..Arya killing the NK is the lamest, most 2019 shit:lol not nearly enough deaths of main characters, too..

[Spurminator]

Everyone lives! Yay!!

[gambit1990]

wtf, arya just ran past the other dozen or so white walkers? :lol fucking lame.

[HarlemHeat37]

How do none of his White Walkers see her?

All that build up, dragons can't kill him, but Arya can?!:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

someone played far cry 3 and said to himself, '' wow, lets give this move to Arya''. Pretty disappointing episode tbh. Not surprised, cause everything feels rushed.

[140]

It was funny how one second it was an all out massacre going on and then suddenly it turned into a game of hide and seek where it was so silent the zombies could hear a blood drop splash the floor :lol

[gambit1990]

arya can move around totally silently but three drops of blood is loud enough? :lol

[NASpurs]

Had to turn on the brightness on my TV to 100.

[140]

I enjoyed watching that little cunt being crushed to death by that giant tbh...until they predictably made her kill him at the last second that is :lol

[gambit1990]

so fucking tired of last second saves... looks like there’s no way jon survives and then dany saves him... and then looks like there’s no way dany survives and then jorah saves her.

[HarlemHeat37]

At least kill Arya while she kills the NK:lol

[redzero]

Arya killing the Night King is lame as fuck. She never even saw a fucking wight until today. Is she going to kill Cersei, too?

[gambit1990]

another stupid fucking thing... winterfell was getting massacred and then after the dead was raised... the massacre slowed down ??? winterfell should've been flooded with the dead.

also, how many dead came from the crypt, three? :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Looks like I was correct on the previous page, though..the masses loved the episode and the ending:lol my girl loved it, too..

It's just the day 1 fans like us that seem to have an issue with it..

[redzero]

I mean, I get the Night King dying to Valyrian steel. I get all the White Walkers and wights dying because he died, since that was setup last season. BUT WHY ARYA? That's some Rian Johnson levels of "subverting expectations." I wouldn't say Jon did nothing, because he rode Rhaegal (the dragons have riders for a reason), who fucked up Viserion and knocked the Night King off his mount with the help of Daenerys and Drogon, but wasn't that Jon's fucking fight? Out of everybody at Winterfell, he was the first one to ever encounter a wight. He lived with the Wildlings for months, who showed him the bigger picture. He saved the Wildlings and united them with the North to fight the real enemy. He got Daenerys and her armies to fight for him. Sorry, D&D, but I don't for a second believe that Melisandre meant killing all the White Walkers when she told Arya that she would shut blue eyes forever. I know it's cliche to have the hero fight the Big Bad, and I know that Game of Thrones has a history of subverting expectations (well, early on at least), but having Arya kill the Night King is unsatisfying. I'm not even mad that the Night King died in this episode, but why Arya? People have called Jon or Daenerys Mary Sues, but they actually have character flaws and they make mistakes. Arya gets some training in Essos and now she is Rey-levels of Mary Sue. She even uses the same fucking move that Rey used in The Last Jedi.

The Dothraki are fucking stupid for charging in blindly like that. They really are a garbage people with a garbage culture. It's not racist because they're fictional, so fuck 'em all. And Drogon is kind of dumb for not immediately flying off when the wights started to climb on him. Almost every animal on the planet has survival instincts, so why was he just standing there letting the wights stab him for so long? The crypts thing was also stupid. I gave D&D more credit than they were worth, apparently.

The episode was technically well executed, even though the stream looked like garbage, but D&D need to stop with their "strong womyn" bullshit; I had enough of that when I saw Captain Marvel and Endgame yesterday. Arya better not do another fucking thing the rest of the series.

[redzero]

I bet Arya helps Sandor Clegane take out Gregor. I fucking bet it.

[140]

I mean, I get the Night King dying to Valyrian steel. I get all the White Walkers and wights dying because he died, since that was setup last season. BUT WHY ARYA? That's some Rian Johnson levels of "subverting expectations." I wouldn't say Jon did nothing, because he rode Rhaegal (the dragons have riders for a reason), who fucked up Viserion and knocked the Night King off his mount with the help of Daenerys and Drogon, but wasn't that Jon's fucking fight? Out of everybody at Winterfell, he was the first one to ever encounter a wight. He lived with the Wildlings for months, who showed him the bigger picture. He saved the Wildlings and united them with the North to fight the real enemy. He got Daenerys and her armies to fight for him. Sorry, D&D, but I don't for a second believe that Melisandre meant killing all the White Walkers when she told Arya that she would shut blue eyes forever. I know it's cliche to have the hero fight the Big Bad, and I know that Game of Thrones has a history of subverting expectations (well, early on at least), but having Arya kill the Night King is unsatisfying. I'm not even mad that the Night King died in this episode, but why Arya? People have called Jon or Daenerys Mary Sues, but they actually have character flaws and they make mistakes. Arya gets some training in Essos and now she is Rey-levels of Mary Sue. She even uses the same fucking move that Rey used in The Last Jedi.

The Dothraki are fucking stupid for charging in blindly like that. They really are a garbage people with a garbage culture. It's not racist because they're fictional, so fuck 'em all. And Drogon is kind of dumb for not immediately flying off when the wights started to climb on him. Almost every animal on the planet has survival instincts, so why was he just standing there letting the wights stab him for so long? The crypts thing was also stupid. I gave D&D more credit than they were worth, apparently.

The episode was technically well executed, even though the stream looked like garbage, but D&D need to stop with their "strong womyn" bullshit; I had enough of that when I saw Captain Marvel and Endgame yesterday. Arya better not do another fucking thing the rest of the series.
I agree with all of this tbh but this show has been on a decline for years and I certainly didn't expect it to get any better this season...if anything I was expecting even worse than what we got so far. There's still 3 eps left though so still plenty of chances :lol

[BD24]

Of course they had Arya kill him :lol

[BD24]

Thinking the show writers give a shit about logic :lol

they are all about shock and awe at this point. Good storytelling be damned

[gambit1990]

the episode went down from the start tbh.

i actually really liked they way the dothraki's fires went out so quickly... it was actually tense waiting to see what would happen next.

and then what was silly was that the battle lasted an hour... the dothraki were disposed of in seconds, where did the force of that power go after that? winterfell should've fell a lot quicker.

[gambit1990]

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[InRareForm]

People are forgetting bran in this: he sent out ravens and knew almost exactly what was going to happen. Now how that got submitted to Arya via Melisandre I have no idea. And how he knew to give her the dagger in first episode is interesting

[InRareForm]

3 long episodes is a lot given what is left ...

Yeah we get it it's not realistic stop bitching all the time in the thread lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah we get it it's not realistic stop bitching all the time in the thread lol

I don't care about the lack of realism and nitpicking about stupid irrelevant shit in the battles, it's a show with dragons and witches and whatever else:lol

It was just a terrible ending..an unstoppable King that has been hyped for 7 seasons that can raise the dead, survive dragon attacks, etc gets killed by Arya Stark and in such lame fashion..smh..

[InRareForm]

Yes, the night king got hyped up all for nothing . We understood where he came from but he was never exciting, we never got to learn about him further.

[spursfan09]

I was surprised how quickly the night king was killed. In episode. Then I realized it’s game of thrones. It’s about sitting on the iron throne

[redzero]

I'm just hoping that the conflict with Cersei will be executed better. Miguel Sapochnik is also directing episode five, so that's probably where the big battle will be.

Almost all of the "leaks" were fake so far, except from Friki Doctor. He spoiled the plot of the first episode a month in advance and faced legal threats by HBO. If what he says will happen in the last episode is true, then this might make or break this season and series for me depending on how it is executed. I liked the first two episodes of this season, but this one was a letdown. We have three 80 minute episodes left, so I D&D better not fuck this up.

[Trainwreck2100]

Seriously I knew she was going to kill him but they could have at least had her pretend to be one of the dead wights on the ground. Instead of her running at him passed all the guys. i'm happy grey worm lived though, dude's a beast, was hoping they were going to kill his woman though.

[Trainwreck2100]

fuck it even have her hide in that freaky tree

[Chachachango]

Lame ass episode. I like Arya but c'mon. Weve been waiting to see what the NW can do besides bringing up the dead. At least make a decent fight with Theon and NW at the end Arya comes in. Theon charging at him was lame. Good thing i got the 7 day trial. Ill watch the rest of the episodes once the season ends.

[spurraider21]

the battle was very well executed. it was tense the whole way, i was holding my breath at the end with the slow piano going...

the set pieces and character decisions were disappointing. the "big deaths" were inconsequential. even if the good guys were going to ultimately win the battle, they should have given this moment so much more weight by having some iconic characters go down. instead we have edd, berric, jorah, theon. some B list and C list characters. so meh. could have had tormund go down valiantly. brienne (to inspire/motivate jaime). podrick. if your'e going to have arya jump in and save the day... have her die at the same time.

instead The Long Night will just be a battle where a lot of nameless people died.

also what the fuck was bran doing the entire time when he was warging? i was waiting for some payoff. have him warg into the dragon john had been riding. have him try to warg into the NK to distract him so arya catching him off guard would make sense.

[redzero]

So is anybody going to start asking why Jon can ride a fucking dragon, or is he going to have to tell everybody why himself? I would imagine that he told everybody that he will be on Rhaegal during the battle planning.

[resistanze]

Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
- Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
- Only useless characters dying
- Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
- Bran being a useless gimp as usual

[Reck]

Solid 8/10 episode but this was way hyped up and failed to meet the golden standards.

Not only was the battle at night and I could barely see shit, things were happening so fast you missed a lot of stuff.

I was activately rooting for the Night King to kill the useless Bran. The faggot says two words just to morphed into ravens not ten feet away. I was hoping he'd try to go back in time and see interesting new stuff.

Let's be honest, TNK got the Oberyn treatment. Guy was too smug. Should have speared Bran from a distance or just do what he did with the previous 3eyed raven.

After this episode battle, there is no way Cersei's one is gonna make a big inprint. She's just not that threatening. Though I have a feeling the creators of this show are gonna make her look even more badass than the Night King...somehow.

That battle should honestly last about 25-30 minutes tops. If most characters survived the actual living dead, they have a great chance surviving this battle.

Oh and Sansa and Tyrion needlessly leaving their perfect hiding spot for...I dont know what exactly. :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Solid 8/10 episode but this was way hyped up and failed to meet the golden standards.

Not only was the battle at night and I could barely see shit, things were happening so fast you missed a lot of stuff.

I was activately rooting for the Night King to kill the useless Bran. The faggot says two words just to morphed into ravens not ten feet away. I was hoping he'd try to go back in time and see interesting new stuff.

Let's be honest, TNK got the Oberyn treatment. Guy was too smug. Should have speared Bran from a distance or just do what he did with the previous 3eyed raven.

After this episode battle, there is no way Cersei's one is gonna make a big inprint. She's just not that threatening. Though I have a feeling the creators of this show are gonna make her look even more badass than the Night King...somehow.

That battle should honestly last about 25-30 minutes tops. If most characters survived the actual living dead, they have a great chance surviving this battle.

Oh and Sansa and Tyrion needlessly leaving their perfect hiding spot for...I dont know what exactly. :lol

Deny 's armies are devastated the Dothraki are gone the unsullied are shells of what they were and the north is fucked up too. The only thing to stop the gold company now is the dragons

[redzero]

Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
- Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
- Only useless characters dying
- Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
- Bran being a useless gimp as usual

I half agree with you here. The wights would have swarmed Winterfell far sooner had Jon and Dany not been around. The Night King would still be on Viserion, too. I just don't get why Drogon would just stand there and let wights attack him. What the fuck? The blizzard makes sense to me, but the White Walkers bring the cold. They did something similar in Hardhome to everybody on the other side of the gates.

The only death that I didn't see coming was Lyanna Mormont's. I thought Podrick was a goner, but he lived. Jorah and Theon are major characters, but who didn't see them dying from the start of the series?

I don't know why anybody wanted or expected something more from The Night King. To me, his origins were shown in season six. His motivation was to kill everybody, The Three Eyed Raven especially. He was always more of a force of nature more than he was a character. I don't understand why Jon and Daenerys were built up as The Prince(ss) that was promised, if Arya Stark is the one who takes The Night King out and ends The Long Night. At this point, Jon and/or Dany would have to rule Westeros for all of the buildup to make sense, but it probably won't happen. D&D will subvert our expectations again and have the Stark kids rule or have no ruler at all.

Bran was just bait in this episode. He better actually use his powers to help in the second half of the season.

[Kurgan]

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So pretty much when they ran out of book material. Though this is Martin's fault for being a lazy fatass and letting Hollywood people write the ending to his story.

[Kurgan]

It's obvious the showrunners just wanted to get all the horror/fantasy shit out of the way so they can go back to the political drama. That's the way show started and it's looking like that's how they're gonna end it. I'm honestly tired of Cersei though - having her and Theon's uncle be the final baddies is really underwhelming imo.

[redzero]

It's obvious the showrunners just wanted to get all the horror/fantasy shit out of the way so they can go back to the political drama. That's the way show started and it's looking like that's how they're gonna end it. I'm honestly tired of Cersei though - having her and Theon's uncle be the final baddies is really underwhelming imo.

Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a shitload more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.

[Kurgan]

Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a shitload more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.

He lost the drive to write the material a long time ago. Three good books in the first five years. Then he's spent the next two decades writing two awful books that didn't move the story forward. He's wealthier now than he has ever been at any other time in his life so he probably sees no reason to spend his last couple years on Earth writing this shit.

[BatManu20]

so fucking tired of last second saves... looks like there’s no way jon survives and then dany saves him... and then looks like there’s no way dany survives and then jorah saves her.

Theyve been doing this A LOT the last 2 seasons... pretty annoying and predictable tbh. Especially with the dragons.

[spurraider21]

I half agree with you here. The wights would have swarmed Winterfell far sooner had Jon and Dany not been around. The Night King would still be on Viserion, too. I just don't get why Drogon would just stand there and let wights attack him. What the fuck? The blizzard makes sense to me, but the White Walkers bring the cold. They did something similar in Hardhome to everybody on the other side of the gates.

The only death that I didn't see coming was Lyanna Mormont's. I thought Podrick was a goner, but he lived. Jorah and Theon are major characters, but who didn't see them dying from the start of the series?

I don't know why anybody wanted or expected something more from The Night King. To me, his origins were shown in season six. His motivation was to kill everybody, The Three Eyed Raven especially. He was always more of a force of nature more than he was a character. I don't understand why Jon and Daenerys were built up as The Prince(ss) that was promised, if Arya Stark is the one who takes The Night King out and ends The Long Night. At this point, Jon and/or Dany would have to rule Westeros for all of the buildup to make sense, but it probably won't happen. D&D will subvert our expectations again and have the Stark kids rule or have no ruler at all.

Bran was just bait in this episode. He better actually use his powers to help in the second half of the season.
with bran doing absolutely nothing, im still unsure why the night king especially wants to kill the three eyed raven. he's no threat.

now if he was able to warg into his dragon or other undead... sure.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
- Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
- Only useless characters dying
- Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
- Bran being a useless gimp as usual

:tu

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a shitload more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.

Dune fans say hold my beer.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This show is so fucking bad now :lol

I have the confused black gay guy face every time I read a comment about how amazing or intense the last episode was.
Arya going from deep inside castle winterfell, past hordes of walkers, mid air for the exact split second to kill the night king, while the last 20 minutes every main character was surrounded and seconds from dying.... :lol come on man

[Texas_Ranger]

melisanda was the real mvp of this episode. Because of her I could actually see something on screen sometimes.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

melisanda was the real mvp of this episode. Because of her I could actually see something on screen sometimes.

Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk

[redzero]

Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk

I watched it on my PC and the stream quality was pretty damn bad. I could see most of what happened, but it did look choppy at points.

[Texas_Ranger]

Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk

nah, it was not the TV's, the episode was just ugly, especially those early scenes. After watching it on a 4K TV and on the PC monitor it was the same shit.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I watched it on my PC and the stream quality was pretty damn bad. I could see most of what happened, but it did look choppy at points.


nah, it was not the TV's, the episode was just ugly, especially those early scenes. After watching it on a 4K TV and on the PC monitor it was the same shit.

What made it worse was how shitty and fast all the cut scenes in the fighting was, at least in the first 20 minutes. I could hardly even focus on who or what was what, cut scenes every 1.5 seconds

[redzero]

Uh oh (read at your own risk): https://old.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/a4ea1k/spoilers_i_know/

This person was under the radar at first, but looks to be batting a 1000 right now. The last bit of info is third-hand, and it could be from a fake scene that D&D shot (another person claimed that somebody on set saw Jaime or Podrick die in Brienne's arm's in Winterfell, but that never happened), but so far, it's not looking good.

[HarlemHeat37]

Why does it matter that they lost most of their army? They have Arya:lol

She should be able to end the remainder of the series in 15 minutes or so..

[redzero]

Why does it matter that they lost most of their army? They have Arya:lol

She should be able to end the remainder of the series in 15 minutes or so..

:rollin10,000 years of buildup and the Night King is taken out by an 18-year-old girl who flunked out of Faceless Man school.

Thanks, D&D. :clap My expectations have been subverted. Rian Johnson would be proud.

[Trainwreck2100]

Who knows maybe the night king was a bitch the whole time, every chance he had to 1v1 Jon he cowed away.

[gambit1990]

would’ve been better if arya risked her life to kill a white walker who she thought was the night king... and then ended up getting killed herself by another white walker.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:rollin10,000 years of buildup and the Night King is taken out by an 18-year-old girl who flunked out of Faceless Man school.

Thanks, D&D. :clap My expectations have been subverted. Rian Johnson would be proud.

LOL. So sad and so true.


Man my head has been so far up D&D's ass these last few years worth of seasons, I totally lost perspective and forgot the Night King isn't even in the fucking books :rollin :lol we should have seen this cheap ass ending coming miles away

[redzero]

would’ve been better if arya risked her life to kill a white walker who she thought was the night king... and then ended up getting killed herself by another white walker.

Anybody whose last name is "Stark" has a 100% survival rate at this point. The Lannisters are doomed and the Targaryens might be, too. Sam isn't going to die either, since he is GRRM's self-insert. I think that if the secondary characters were going to die, it would have been in the last episode. Now, I think D&D might kill a few more just to maintain the allusion that the show is still dangerous, but they will leave most of them alive.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-review-and-so-i/1100-6466520/

This nails it.

[spurraider21]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-review-and-so-i/1100-6466520/

This nails it.
yup. i was complaining throughout the week that they're going to rush White Walker story, and that a plotline which has been slowly developed and teased FOR YEARS cant be done justice with just one battle sequence (no matter how long it was). and especially with none of the main characters dying (secondary characters like jorah, theon and tertiary characters like berric/edd/lyanna/mel dont count). it means there was no weight to any of this. one of brienne/jaime should have died in the others arms. imo at least one of jon/dany/arya should have died. or more secondary characters like pod, sam, grey worm, gilly, missandei, varys. i mean what's varys' purpose anymore? and if they're worried about not having too many climactic hero deaths, i get that. but it would have even more effect if you just have fleeting shots of character after character all getting stabbed in quick succession. like "oh wait ____ died? what now ___ died? WTF"

even if the episode ended in victory for the good guys, it should have been a more sad event. i mean sure, in the moment, it was full of dread. everything looked hopeless, they were helplessly overrun. but at the end, all is better and everything is ok and everyone we actually care about it alive. when fans look back to this episode and think back on the battle, its going to be a happy memory. not a bittersweet one. and thats not GOT

im not complaining about the dothraki moment. this show has had tons of awful battle strategy, its not mean to be the art of war. and that scene was fucking great. get everyone pumped up with hope with flaming weapons charging, the screamers that we know have slaughtered armed lannisters, and then seeing the flames die out nary a sound. i think that was brilliant theater.

[Reck]

Deny 's armies are devastated the Dothraki are gone the unsullied are shells of what they were and the north is fucked up too. The only thing to stop the gold company now is the dragons

They should still have 10-15 thousand troops plus whatever the Iron Born has.

But even without an army, there is no way they will keep Cersei on the Throne. How extremely shitty would that be.

Which is why I said the second battle will not measure up in scale or even the fear factor.

[redzero]

It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bullshit? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this shit. I guess I am the retard for not expecting this forced progressive bullshit in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.

[Spurminator]

I thought there were some really good moments and some that were mailed in. This show has built a reputation for surprise, genius battle moves that sway the momentum. It's disappointing that the Night King's death was just a surprise attack from behind. I love that it was Arya, but that was a very un-GOT way to resolve a major plot point.

[spurraider21]

It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bullshit? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this shit. I guess I am the retard for not expecting this forced progressive bullshit in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.
i dont see how you come away from Endgame thinking there was a feminist agenda unless you're going out of your way trying to be upset about it

[Spurminator]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-review-and-so-i/1100-6466520/

This nails it.

Yup.

[Spurminator]

thinking there was a feminist agenda ... going out of your way trying to be upset about it

These two things usually go hand in hand.

[redzero]

i dont see how you come away from Endgame thinking there was a feminist agenda unless you're going out of your way trying to be upset about it

I don't believe that the Russo brothers set out to make a movie with a feminist agenda, but there is a certain level of pandering that becomes impossible to ignore when we are inundated with it.

[spurraider21]

I don't believe that the Russo brothers set out to make a movie with a feminist agenda, but there is a certain level of pandering that becomes impossible to ignore when we are inundated with it.
are they pandering to you when 95% of the powerful characters are male?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bullshit? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this shit. I guess I am the retard for not expecting this forced progressive bullshit in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.

I didn't mind the endgame female scene. And I don't take Arya's NK scene as feminist. It's just shitty short cut writing by two cocky queefs who don't know how to wrap up the mess GRRM left them.

[Texas_Ranger]

I dont think anyone is upset about Arya killing the NK. The problem is how she did it. I wouldnt be surprised if the show has a retarded ending, cause the writing in the last 2 season has been pretty bad.

[Trainwreck2100]

Yup.


. Faceless Men magic to pose as Bran. Bran stabs the Night King, removes his face, bam, it's Arya

This is where it lost me thats not how that shit works they need to be dead to take their face

[spurraider21]

jon and bran didnt play enough of a role. and the huge deal they've made about valyrian steel swords ended up being a big nothingburger with the exception of arya's dagger.

sam giving jorah hearthsbane didnt do anything. longclaw didnt do anything. brienne's oathkeeper didnt do anything. jamies widow's wail didnt do anything.

[gambit1990]

i wonder what GRRM's thoughts are.

[spurraider21]

This is where it lost me thats not how that shit works they need to be dead to take their face
not just that... but bran is "marked" by the NK. i dont think an imposter would do the trick.

[Trainwreck2100]

The engame shit was pandering but it wasn't as gratuitous as what we got from Jane in thor: tdw or iron man 3. I didn't mind it and it wasn't enough cause of course feminists are still bitching about it.

[spurraider21]

i wonder what GRRM's thoughts are.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/11LtzfNXmCQQ80/giphy.gif

[Trainwreck2100]

jon and bran didnt play enough of a role. and the huge deal they've made about valyrian steel swords ended up being a big nothingburger with the exception of arya's dagger.

sam giving jorah hearthsbane didnt do anything. longclaw didnt do anything. brienne's oathkeeper didnt do anything. jamies widow's wail didnt do anything.

They still one shot the army of the dead.

[spurraider21]

The engame shit was pandering but it wasn't as gratuitous as what we got from Jane in thor: tdw or iron man 3. I didn't mind it and it wasn't enough cause of course feminists are still bitching about it.
if jane was meant to be feminist pandering, they did an awful job. oh here's a successful and respected scientist who instantly goes goo-goo eyes and preteen fangirl because she sees beefcake with muscles.

[spurraider21]

They still one shot the army of the dead.
yeah the dagger played a big role, like i said. that's been a story piece since season 1 and its nice to see it have payoff. but theyve been making a pretty big deal about knowing which swords have valyrian steel.

[Trainwreck2100]

if jane was meant to be feminist pandering, they did an awful job. oh here's a successful and respected scientist who instantly goes goo-goo eyes and preteen fangirl because she sees beefcake with muscles.

"that's for New York"

[spurraider21]

"that's for New York"
which loki then laughed at/shrugged off. reaching tbh. her primary role was damsel in distress

[BD24]

As others have said :lol at no one important getting killed off. Fine let Arya kill night king, but at least make her sacrifice herself for fucks sake.

as others have said I am going to laugh when Ceresie is a tougher villain than the night king. The show has made her the most intelligent and cunning person the show.

[redzero]

As others have said :lol at no one important getting killed off. Fine let Arya kill night king, but at least make her sacrifice herself for fucks sake.

as others have said I am going to laugh when Ceresie is a tougher villain than the night king. The show has made her the most intelligent and cunning person the show.

The funny thing is, she isn't even that smart. In the books, she is bordering on insane and in the show, she is a wannabe Tywin at best. Qyburn, Euron and Jaime have been carrying her sense the end of season six. She blows up The Great Sept, committing mass murder and pissing off only the Tyrells. Then she claims the Iron Throne, despite having no claim on it whatsoever. Robert Baratheon had Targaryen blood, and Cersei's bastards thought they were Baratheons. Cersei, however, can just claim the throne as a dowager queen. Then, when Daenerys invades Westeros, Qyburn builds Scorpions, Euron teleports around and destroys most of Dany's fleets, and Jaime captures Highgarden. Tyrion becomes a pants-on-head retard who fucks everything up for Dany. Not only did he come up with a plan that was doomed to fail, but it also cost the Dragon Queen one of her dragons when she tried to salvage it.

Cersei sitting back and doing nothing now seems like the most ingenious plan of all time relative to the shit the "heroes" came up with. She was just boozing it up in King's Landing while Dany's forces were obliterated.

[gambit1990]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/11LtzfNXmCQQ80/giphy.gif
:lol

[gambit1990]

mary sue is trending on twitter.

[redzero]

mary sue is trending on twitter.

Arya had an intense game of hide and seek midway through the episode, so she is not a Mary Sue!

[Spurminator]

Arya had an intense game of hide and seek midway through the episode, so she is not a Mary Sue!

And about 7 seasons worth of swordplay and assassin training, but sure, go with that.

[Texas_Ranger]

those walkers heard a drop of blood, but couldn't see or hear her when she jumped on the NK.... Amazing writting.

It would have been better if she was on the tree the whole time.

[Reck]

those walkers heard a drop of blood, but couldn't see or hear her when she jumped on the NK.... Amazing writting.

It would have been better if she was on the tree the whole time.

That one wight commander noticed something. He looked to the side as if to say who’s there?

I gotta say these commanders are useless servants. No rushing to to protect their king once it became super obvious what was happening.

[spurraider21]

That one wight commander noticed something. He looked to the side as if to say who’s there?

I gotta say these commanders are useless servants. No rushing to to protect their king once it became super obvious what was happening.
they were completely wasted in the episode. should have had each of the people holding valyrian steel swords duel one of them or something.

[redzero]

And about 7 seasons worth of swordplay and assassin training, but sure, go with that.

Arya had one season of swordplay training, two seasons of assassin training (which she didn't even pass), and zero seasons of dealing with wights, white walkers or the Night King. Try again.

[Rosewood]

:lmao At the butthurt this show produces when things don't go the way these obese nerdfans want it to.

It's a fucking TV show, losers. If you want quality writing try Breaking Bad or True Detective. This is a fantasy show for normies.

[gambit1990]

If you want quality writing try Breaking Bad or True Detective.
:lol the fuck are you talking about? the first handful of seasons has better writing than both those shows.

[Texas_Ranger]

:lmao At the butthurt this show produces when things don't go the way these obese nerdfans want it to.

It's a fucking TV show, losers. If you want quality writing try Breaking Bad or True Detective. This is a fantasy show for normies.

first 6 season were quality.

[Rosewood]

:lol the fuck are you talking about? the first handful of seasons has better writing than both those shows. Opinions are just that I suppose, but if you think any season of Game of Thrones has better writing than the first season of True Detective (or even close) you have a case of actual retardation to go along with that opinion.


first 6 season were quality. First four were pretty good. After that the writing is trash (though acting, cinematography and music still top-notch)

[redzero]

:lmao At the butthurt this show produces when things don't go the way these obese nerdfans want it to.

It's a fucking TV show, losers. If you want quality writing try Breaking Bad or True Detective. This is a fantasy show for normies.

True Detective has quality writing? Am I in 2014?

[spurraider21]

yeah, that's a strange argument. the bar has been set high by GoT itself... we're not comparing it to other great shows. we're comparing it to the great show that it has been for the past decade

[Rosewood]

yeah, that's a strange argument. the bar has been set high by GoT itself... we're not comparing it to other great shows. we're comparing it to the great show that it has been for the past decade Eh I guess that's fair enough. But to see people sperg out over it cracks me up.

[spurraider21]

Eh I guess that's fair enough. But to see people sperg out over it cracks me up.
the biggest issue imo is that they've let plot armor get too thick and haven't given appropriate payoff to storylines. bran's whole journey of becoming a 3 eyed raven, all that... was so that he could be bait? its just weak

[redzero]

Imagine comparing an 8 episode mini-series to a 73 episode series.

[Reck]

Pinkwood getting murked on the spot.

:cry go watch reruns of breaking bad if you want quality.

Talk about your latent retardation.

[DarrinS]

I thought it was a decent episode, just hard to see, since it was so dark. Had to watch it twice.

[Rosewood]

Pinkwood getting murked on the spot.

:cry go watch reruns of breaking bad if you want quality.

Talk about your latent retardation. :rolleyes

[Rosewood]

Imagine comparing an 8 episode mini-series to a 73 episode series. Didn't compare it, said check it out if you want good writing.

You GoT nerds are so sensitive :lmao

[redzero]

Didn't compare it, said check it out if you want good writing.

That's a fucking comparison, you mouth-breather.

[BD24]

Most casual fans I know of the series thought the episode was amazing and loved Arya killing the night king. One of them went as far as saying it was great storytelling. D&D know their demographic tbh

[spurraider21]

Most casual fans I know of the series thought the episode was amazing and loved Arya killing the night king. One of them went as far as saying it was great storytelling. D&D know their demographic tbh
i think the story was poor but the execution was well done. i was tense throughout the episode.

[TimDunkem]

What a stupid fucking plan though.

Send your light cav out first in a direct assault suicide mission. Countless military battles between you all and you don't know what light cavalry is for? All that effort uniting the Dothraki tribes and you throw them away?

Put out very few obstacles outside your castle knowing you would be besieged by greater numbers. It's not like they didn't have the time.

Put those few obstacles reeeeeally close to your own defenses so that the Wights face little resistance before they get to you. Brilliant!

Barely use the dragons or catapults. Guess they were just for show...

No wall defenses knowing the Wights will climb them. No dragonglass or fire on the walls?

Using arrows to defend Bran in close quarters combat. What?

Sticking all your non-fighters in the crypt with corpses knowing that they could be reanimated. Guess you idiots learned nothing from Hardhome?

Bad plan was bad. Guess it made for good tv though.

[spurraider21]

What a stupid fucking plan though.

Send your light cav out first in a direct assault suicide mission.

Put the obstacles reeeeeally close to your own defenses so that the Wights face little resistance before they get to you.

Barely use the dragons or catapults.

No wall defenses knowing the Wights will climb them.

Using arrows to defend Bran in close quarters combat.

Sticking all your non-fighters in the crypt with corpses knowing that they could be reanimated.

Bad plan was bad. Guess it made for good tv though.
im willing to overlook the stupidity of the dothraki plan just because that sequence was fucking epic

[TimDunkem]

im willing to overlook the stupidity of the dothraki plan just because that sequence was fucking epic

Was it though? They lasted about 30 seconds charging into a wall of blackness. I just sat there confused, tbh. :lol

[spurraider21]

Was it though? They lasted about 30 seconds charging into a wall of blackness. I just sat there confused, tbh. :lol
everybody was all hyped. flaming weapons? perfect to defeat the dead. dothraki with cavalry have been shown to be great. there's some hope/confidence.

and then silence. and the flames just slowly go away. nothing.

it was ominous... i thought it played quite well

[Spurminator]

Yeah I thought the Dothraki scene was awesome. And who's to say they didn't take out a bunch of walkers on their way out?

Worst moment of the night? That Night King smirk. WTF was that?

[TimDunkem]

They really didn't take out many considering the number of Wights, and that's not their purpose anyway.

Honestly, they probably just needed to save some cash so they had the Horde killed so they wouldn't need to care for the horses on set anymore. :lol

[spurraider21]

dothraki cavalry would be pretty useless in a defensive position, also. you want the horses on the offensive because of their speed/power. they're useless standing still.

showing bran in his warging state the entire time needed some payoff. was he really just spectating the battle with ravens? they showed him with his eyes rolled back at least 2-3 different times. all with no result. thought maybe he'd warg into one of the dragons or some shit. or try to run some interference against the night king. i guess he was just watchi

[TimDunkem]

The light cav wouldn't be used for defense. You use them to pick off Wights from the sides and back once they've been bogged down in battle. I mean, Jon should know, considering the Knights of the Vale saved his ass in the very same way during TBoTB.

With that said, I enjoyed the episode. Even if I was scratching my head the whole time...Just a shame to see that epic Horde go out in such a pointless manner. :(

[redzero]

The Dothraki charge served no purpose. When the defense of Winterfell was being planned, who thought it would be a good idea to take all the cavalry (I don't know why the Knights of the Vale weren't on horses or where Yohn Royce was this entire episode) and have them ride blindly to their deaths? They had NO dragonglass weapons at all, so they would have failed no matter what.

D&D justified this by saying that they wanted a hope spot. Why? We all knew this entire episode would be a battle, so why put the hope spot at the beginning? Nobody thought the fight would end in 15 minutes, so leave that shit for midway point at the very least.

I guess D&D just wanted the Dothraki out of the budget and didn't want to have to deal with them being in Westeros. The culture clash and political implications would be too much, so might as well kill them all off.

[TimDunkem]

^ Yep. Exactly my thoughts. Those horses practically eat your budget so it was probably in their best interest to get rid of them.

Never expected it to come in such an utterly pointless and downright retarded way. Again, I liked the episode, but it's hard now to see any of the characters involved as anything but incompetent morons based on how they handled the battle.

[spurraider21]

The Dothraki charge served no purpose. When the defense of Winterfell was being planned, who thought it would be a good idea to take all the cavalry (I don't know why the Knights of the Vale weren't on horses or where Yohn Royce was this entire episode) and have them ride to their blindly to their deaths? They had NO dragonglass weapons at all, so they would have failed no matter what.

D&D justified this by saying that they wanted a hope spot. Why? We all knew this entire episode would be a battle, so why put the hope spot at the beginning? Nobody thought the fight would end in 15 minutes, so leave that shit for midway point at the very least.

I guess D&D just wanted the Dothraki out of the budget and didn't want to have to deal with them being in Westeros. The culture clash and political implications would be too much, so might as well kill them all off.
you dont need dragonglass to deal with wights. fire would do the trick.

during the excursion beyond the wall, most of the guys there were just using regular swords and were fighting off wights

[redzero]

They also put their armies in front of their single, pathetic trench :bang. Once the trench is lit and all the survivors are in Winterfell, the survivors just stand around and have to be told to man the walls. Once they man the walls, they have no rocks, no oil, no fire, etc. I know D&D have a medieval battle strategists at their disposal, but they did not use them at all.


you dont need dragonglass to deal with wights. fire would do the trick.

Fire they did not have until Melisandre popped up. Nobody knew that Melisandre was coming, so the plan was to charge blindly into zombies with weapons that can't kill them.


during the excursion beyond the wall, most of the guys there were just using regular swords and were fighting off wights

False. Everybody but Thoros, Beric, Gendry and Jon was using dragonglass weapons. I've seen the episode multiple times and noticed dragonglass daggers, spears and axes.

[Reck]

Yeah remember it was Yorah who put down the wight bear when the hound went into pussy mode.

[BD24]

i think the story was poor but the execution was well done. i was tense throughout the episode.
Oh I agree the episode production was great. The story has gone off the fucking rails at this point. It’s just the writers catering to their base at this point, fan service. In fairness to them Fatty hasn’t even finished the next book after 10+ years

[spurraider21]

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[gambit1990]

this is great :lol explains it all!

https://i.imgur.com/QXRLwTv.jpg

[spurraider21]

next level

[RD2191]

Bunch of ######s in this thread tbh. 10/10 episode imo. Arya was born to kill the night king tbh imo

[RD2191]

F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? Fucking really? Wow.

[Reck]

F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? Fucking really? Wow.

:lol

I came across one of my posts earlier and saw it was censored and wondered what I even said. Can’t remember saying something so egregious it needed to be bleeped.

[Texas_Ranger]

F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? Fucking really? Wow.

is this the first word that spurstalk censored?

:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

######

[Trainwreck2100]

It was dead the minute they started taking ad revenue.

is this the first word that spurstalk censored?

:lmao
The n bomb has been beeped for awhile

[InRareForm]

The fan theory of Dany becoming the night queen is a ending I would like

[spurraider21]

The fan theory of Dany becoming the night queen is a ending I would like
fan theories have been better than the actual writing since the end of season 6

[140]

is this the first word that spurstalk censored?

:lmao


It was dead the minute they started taking ad revenue.

The n bomb has been beeped for awhile
The c word (calftats) used to be censored as well :lol

[RD2191]

The c word (calftats) used to be censored as well :lol

:lmao

[spurraider21]

spelling elliott with a missing t used to be censored. testing: elliot

g l e n h o b a r t was censored too. testing: glen hobart

ah nice they undid those

[BD24]

spelling elliott with a missing t used to be censored. testing: elliot

g l e n h o b a r t was censored too. testing: glen hobart

ah nice they undid those
Fucking Glen ��. Surprised that f@ggot hasn’t come back with registration opening back up tbh

[Reck]

Fucking Glen ��. Surprised that f@ggot hasn’t come back with registration opening back up tbh

Well given that he was like in his late 70s, he might have kicked the bucket by now.

[BD24]

Well given that he was like in his late 70s, he might have kicked the bucket by now.
Was he that old? I thought he was like early 60s :lol

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKoq1taY_VY

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKoq1taY_VY

:rollin brilliant

[InRareForm]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-defense-of-winterfell-was-actually-bad

They really done fcked up with the strategy, they got lucky

[BD24]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKoq1taY_VY
:lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5VnIGxAPts

lololololol
Kind of long but man he lays out some more criticisms even I didn't think of.
"Arya literally materializes out of thin air.." :rollin

[redzero]

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bjm9az/the_great_war_isnt_over_spoilers_extended/

Somebody has come up with an interesting theory that Bran is evil. Maybe it's just people, myself included, trying to cope with how the season is going, but the theory is interesting. We only got the story behind the Night King's origins and motivations from the Three-Eyed Raven himself, who could be an unreliable narrator with hidden intentions. This would give Bran's behavior a deeper meaning beyond being creepy for just the sake of it. It would also give him a bigger purpose than defeating the Night King, because he didn't do shit to defeat the Night King beyond giving Arya a dagger and merely existing.

Of course, expecting something more than a Cersei final battle or a Dance of Dragons between Jon and Dany, might be too much to ask from D&D :lol. I do wonder why The Three-Eyed Raven would care about Jon being the rightful heir to the throne. I initially just passed it off as shitty writing, but it is suspicious that he would seem so interested in something that has nothing to do with him. Revealing that info to Jon didn't help defeat the Night King in anyway, because Jon already rode a dragon before he learned he was a Targaryen.

Why does Bran care that Jon is the rightful heir? Because he and Jon are family? He doesn't really give a fuck about family. He has shown that multiple times. Is it because he doesn't think Daenerys would be a good ruler? Perhaps. I was watching Bran give all those people death glares thinking that he doesn't trust them, but maybe it's we who should not be trusting him.

Or maybe it's all bullshit. There are four hours left at this point.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I'm all done considering ANY theories other than a generic "Night King reborn at the very end showing it's a cycle HAHHAA WOW HOW ORIGINAL" "twist".

D&D have given us every indication they are going to finish this show as vanilla, shallow, and milquetoast and cookie-cutter as possible.

[redzero]

When The Three-Eyed Raven uses a carriage to run Sam over next episode, I will hate to say, "I told you so."

[chunticakes]

When The Three-Eyed Raven uses a carriage to run Sam over next episode, I will hate to say, "I told you so."

Bran should've warged into ravens, tied dragonglass daggers to them, and kamikazed them into the NK. Would've been more creative than Arya teleporting and stabbing the NK.

I mean wtf what an anticlimactic ending to the NK/white walker arc. He grabs Arya by the neck and nothing happened? Didn't he scar Bran's arm when he touched him in a VISION? Wouldn't he turn Craster's babies into wights just by touching them?!

[Reck]

The creators are not helping themselves here are they? Supposedly not only does the Night King not die from any knife stab, he would have survived getting stabbed with valyrian steel if Arya didn't perfectly made contact with the dragon glass already in the Night King. :lol for fuck's sake.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The more and more I think about last episode the more I hate it

[redzero]

:rollin Rewatching Arya killing the Night King, she literally just runs past the white walkers. A Walker slightly turns his head and his hair moves, because Arya is faster than Sonic the Hedgehog and nobody could react in time. Usain Bolt with a Valyrisn steel dagger could have killed the Night King.

[BD24]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-defense-of-winterfell-was-actually-bad

They really done fcked up with the strategy, they got lucky
Just saw this one :lol

[Reck]

I like how everyone's a battle strategist now. :lol

The battle itself was pretty well done (When you could see what was going on) but the execution was not. Particularly the Arya bit.

Also why didn't the Night King use his commanders? They just sat.

[BD24]

Why the fuck is everyone so scared of dragons if they are so easy to kill tbh :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

this is so rusheh. I didn't know anything could be worse than last weeks ep, but this one was pretty much the same shit.