Game of Thrones - 14 minute preview

[redzero]

D&D literally don't care. They turned Arya into a 2-dimensional "badass girl" and Cersei into a full on Villain Sue.

Daenerys helped save the world and the Starks and her advisors can't wait to backstab her. Joffrey tried to execute some nobody and the peasants revolted against him. Tywin treated his son like shit and died because of it. Cersei committed mass murder and not only did nobody care, the people let her be queen. How does Cersei inspire so much devotion in people? What is her secret?

This next episode might be another Battle of the Bastards where the heroes when purely through brute force. Cersei is Ramsay Bolton turned up to 11 with her mustache twirling villainy.

Oh, and good job making Jaime's character do a complete 180°, D&D. Jaime leaving Cersei last season was the one instance where her actions had consequences, and D&D made Jaime say, "Eh, fuck it. I'll go back to Cersei even though she threatened to kill me, and then hired a hitman to actually kill me."

:bang nobody checking Dragonstone's surrounding waters for the Greyjoys
:bang no Greyjoys on Dragonstone
:bang Greyjoys hitting Rhaegal from afar three times in quick succession but missing Drogon with two dozen arrows up close
:bang Jon riding Rhaegal one time into battle before Rhaegal dies
:bang Jon not even petting Ghost goodbye

Just shoot me.

[Reck]

I dont think I have ever cringed so much in one sitting as much as I did tonight. HBO, you are not landing this plane well at all.

That dragon death was possibly the chepeast death I have ever witness. Like fucking physics everybody. There was a fucking mountain in the way and unless you shoot the scorpion arrows straight up, you're not hitting anyone.

Oh for fuck's sake. GRR Martin might give a fuck if he wasn't wiping his fat ass with them fat stacks right about now.

[Reck]

BTW, Tyrion again fucks up and lives. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

This was actually so much easier to watch after giving up all hope for the show last episode, tbh:lol

[spurraider21]

the drunken party scene went too long... hard to get excited over 80 minute episodes if they're going to waste so much time on bullshit. literally, what was the point of the arya/gendry shit this whole time? :lol just useless filler

why is sansa so suspicious of dany when she voluntarily came up north, brought her armies and dragons to fight FOR WINTERFELL.

having jamie and brienne bone was completely unnecessary. their relationship has never been one of romance, but of mutual admiration. him knighting her was the highlight of their relationship, the porking is just fan service.

plus at that parlay at the end... :lol bringing the queen herself and the dragon all within firing range of those scorpion bolts :lmao

[redzero]

https://i.imgur.com/4SuiGZU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Remember when people complained that nothing happened in the first two episodes of the season? And now this is what we get.

[spurraider21]

the plot didnt advance one bit in this episode besides a dragon dying.

we already knew dany would be switching her focus to kings landing

we already knew cersei wouldnt surrender... :lol especially literally right after they took down a dragon

only interesting thing is varys/tyrion discussing jon vs dany. i'd also rather they spend less time with jamie/brienne and arya/gendry and how about not fucking cutting away as jon is about to tell sansa/arya his lineage. i want to see that discussion and their reactions. or sansa telling tyrion. why are we wasting time watching tyrion call brienne a virgin instead of seeing those scenes play out? and you had 80 fucking minutes...

[Beartrucci]

Yea that dragon's death was too sudden and easy, and the antogonist killing the dragon is so fucking lame :lol Although it will be fun to see that prick die whenever he does

I suppose they're trying to make us feel that the final battle(s) can't be won with dragons. It'll be Cersei vs. Snow or whoever instead of 1000's corpses on fire

It almost feels like Sansa or Dany seem too obvious at this point to take Iron Throne. Lore wise I don't know else could take it though besides Snow. Guess a lot of it depends on deaths.

[140]

This shit has reached soap opera levels of tackiness tbh :lol I legit felt ashamed of watching it last night

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Only way to keep watching this is if you're accepted what the show is now fully.

Redzero...I may be giving D&D too much credit (again) but I'm taking Jaime's leaving as indication that he'll confront and at least try to kill Cersei. It certainly makes no sense to have him do such a quick 180.


Also....how about Bronn just appearing out of thin air, waltzed right into a foreign hostile castle carrying a fancy crossbow

That was the stupidest fucking scene of the episode after Deus Ex Pirate Machina wiping out an entire army in 2 seconds again

[InRareForm]

Dany lost her best friend , dragon, best girlfriend. She had to watch Jon get all the attention. She has to go mad at this point.

Dragonstone is so close to Kings landing , how are they so dumb to not be prepared for a siege at Sea


I think Jamie kills euron in next episode

[140]

Only way to keep watching this is if you're accepted what the show is now fully.

Redzero...I may be giving D&D too much credit (again) but I'm taking Jaime's leaving as indication that he'll confront and at least try to kill Cersei. It certainly makes no sense to have him do such a quick 180.


Also....how about Bronn just appearing out of thin air, waltzed right into a foreign hostile castle carrying a fancy crossbow

That was the stupidest fucking scene of the episode after Deus Ex Pirate Machina wiping out an entire army in 2 seconds again

:lol I dont even know where to begin with those two scenes tbh

[Reck]

I think Dany still gets the throne. There was a lot of talk of Jon derserving this, deserving that. But that is just wishfull thinking.

I saw the episode again and there was a strong sense that Jon is not going to be coming back to Winterfell ever. The Samwell and Tormund scene were like the audience saying goodbye to Jon for good.

[UZER]

I wonder who in here complaining about GoT, were the same ones on their high horse making fun of people who hated The Last Jedi. :lol

[DJR210]

This is what happens when HBO takes over and runs the show themselves without the book as a guide.. I am still enjoying this season, but man it just feels like it's cut from a different cloth

[Texas_Ranger]

I wonder who in here complaining about GoT, were the same ones on their high horse making fun of people who hated The Last Jedi. :lol

the last jedi still leads as bigger shit i my eyes... but after the final 2 episodes it could be really close.

[spurraider21]

:lmao star wars and GoT have completely different sets of expectations

[InRareForm]

Sansa is little finger , she is doing the same things as little finger. I don't understand why she hates Dany so much. It's just off her sense of fear of her? I don't get it

[Reck]

This is what happens when HBO takes over and runs the show themselves without the book as a guide.. I am still enjoying this season, but man it just feels like it's cut from a different cloth

If it was up to HBO they'd ride this ship right into the bottom of the sea like AMC is doing with The Walking Dead.

I think the showrunners are exhausted and want out and just dont give a fuck if they leave starbucks coffee cups on a table while filming. People give the fat fuck a lot of credit but I think the reason we haven't seen a book in like 10 years in because he's hit a wall and doesn't know how to end it himself. :lol

[spurraider21]

If it was up to HBO they'd ride this ship right into the bottom of the sea like AMC is doing with The Walking Dead.

I think the showrunners are exhausted and want out and just dont give a fuck if they leave starbucks coffee cups on a table while filming. People give the fat fuck a lot of credit but I think the reason we haven't seen a book in like 10 years in because he's hit a wall and doesn't know how to end it himself. :lol
thats possible. but fan theories have legit been much better than the writing lately.

i mean what was the point of jaime leaving cersei, coming to winterfell (not really accomplishing anything in the battle), and then ditching and going back to kings landing?

these writers are just as clueless but without the quality

[redzero]

I wonder who in here complaining about GoT, were the same ones on their high horse making fun of people who hated The Last Jedi. :lol

I trashed the shit out of The Last Jedi, too. "Subverted our expectations" has been co-opted by Game of Thrones fans, too.

[Texas_Ranger]

I hope D&D team up with Rian Johnson for that new SW project. :rollin

[BD24]

Are D&D writing and directing the spinoff series? I sure as fuck hope not. They have proven to be completely incompetent when they don't have source material to draw from.

[Texas_Ranger]

Are D&D writing and directing the spinoff series? I sure as fuck hope not. They have proven to be completely incompetent when they don't have source material to draw from.

this is the first thing i found after searching this stuff. ''Rian Johnson and David Benioff & D.B. Weiss are working closely together as they plot the course for their respective Star Wars movie projects.''

I guess D&D would be writers, while Ruin would direct. ugh...

[Reck]

Are D&D writing and directing the spinoff series? I sure as fuck hope not. They have proven to be completely incompetent when they don't have source material to draw from.

I think they're decent and capable writers. I'm not sure why everyone is piling on them. Clearly there is some fatigue going on there after being attached to this project for over 9 or however many years it has been.

It's also hard to kickstart a show after you are given materials for x amount of seasons. It's hard to continue as if nothing has happened. You will have some serious gap in quality no matter who you are, imo.

Had this been an original story, it would have either sucked from the start or people would be going crazy for it. So given that discrepency from having book material to not and having to make shit up on the spot, I give them a break.

[FkLA]

Uh oh (read at your own risk): https://old.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/a4ea1k/spoilers_i_know/

This person was under the radar at first, but looks to be batting a 1000 right now. The last bit of info is third-hand, and it could be from a fake scene that D&D shot (another person claimed that somebody on set saw Jaime or Podrick die in Brienne's arm's in Winterfell, but that never happened), but so far, it's not looking good.

I can see Jon killing Dany. They're doing a good job of portraying her as power hungry and on the verge of going mad. Jon will probably kill her to prevent her from doing something terrible (killing innocent people most likely). He'll be devastated but his nobleness will trump his love for her, tbh.

[FkLA]

Is there sexual tension between Jaime and Brienne or just friendship? Kinda weird since she's like 6'5" tbh.


Pretty gay that this ended up being true since she's 6-5 and he's way out her league (no homo), tbh.

[InRareForm]

Why didn't cersei just destroy Dany and everyone and the dragon when they came to talk? Tons of scorpions and archers

[DJR210]

If it was up to HBO they'd ride this ship right into the bottom of the sea like AMC is doing with The Walking Dead.

I think the showrunners are exhausted and want out and just dont give a fuck if they leave starbucks coffee cups on a table while filming. People give the fat fuck a lot of credit but I think the reason we haven't seen a book in like 10 years in because he's hit a wall and doesn't know how to end it himself. :lol

Yep, HBO would pull a Disney and kill the fuck outta this shit like they've done to the Star Wars franchise

[RD2191]

Great episode 10/10 tbh. It's a fucking show meant to entertain. :lol at anyone expecting a perfect ending. It is what it is, people will bitch and moan no matter how it ends.

[redzero]

FYI, another person who leaked season 7 just confirmed that most of the spoilers left that are being spread around are true. The interesting thing is that all of the rest of the leaks end with episode 5. The rumors about episode 6's production being top secret, appear to be true.

[Reck]

FYI, another person who leaked season 7 just confirmed that most of the spoilers left that are being spread around are true. The interesting thing is that all of the rest of the leaks end with episode 5. The rumors about episode 6's production being top secret, appear to be true.

I'll just be happy with a solid 10 minutes of Bran looking through the past. It is bound to be way better than what's coming. I just know they will blow the ending.

I'm all in for finality sakes.

[Beartrucci]

Been watching the older seasons recently. Man I forgot how terrible season 5 was compared to the others. The whole Ramsay and Reek thing, The Faceless Men storyline, High Sparrow gaining power. It makes for a very boring season, but I have to admit it also makes for great payoffs in season 6.

[HarlemHeat37]

Been watching the older seasons recently. Man I forgot how terrible season 5 was compared to the others. The whole Ramsay and Reek thing, The Faceless Men storyline, High Sparrow gaining power. It makes for a very boring season, but I have to admit it also makes for great payoffs in season 6.

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[Beartrucci]

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Yea I really enjoyed 4 watching it again, great season. Crazy how big of a falloff 5 is. Will be watching 3 next. Not sure why I'm re-watching it in a semi reverse order just kinda happened :lol

Guess originally I just wanted to see the recent events again that had led up to season 8

[spurraider21]

i think season 5 was the worst of the show. dorne sucked. the sons of the harpy shit got tired. the house of black and white was surprisingly boring (except for the meryn trant scene).

only redeeming qualities were hardhome and tyrion/jorah plot with tyrion finally meeting daenerys . sparrows were hit and miss.

season 6 was a great rebound though

season 7 was a clusterfuck but was still action packed and overall fun to watch. more fan service than great writing, but i still enjoyed it.

[gambit1990]

i've resisted reading about spoilers so far...

[Reck]

Uh oh (read at your own risk): https://old.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/a4ea1k/spoilers_i_know/

This person was under the radar at first, but looks to be batting a 1000 right now. The last bit of info is third-hand, and it could be from a fake scene that D&D shot (another person claimed that somebody on set saw Jaime or Podrick die in Brienne's arm's in Winterfell, but that never happened), but so far, it's not looking good.

Reading through the first half of those is pretty impressive having seen 4 episodes thus far.


The spoilers regarding Cersei---------



























I'm not sure Jon has any business killing Cersei at all. It would be like Arya killing the Night King.

Actually going by season 8 logic, it makes perfect sense, nevermind :lol

Would still suck to see a character that had barely two words said to each other in the entire series to randomly be killed by one another.

[Xevious]

Okay so I've avoided spoilers thus far but finally got around to watching the first three episodes. Episodes one and two were mostly good. My biggest complaint is that alot of these reunions we've waited years for are just being breezed by and falling flat. That and Jon riding a dragon for the first time should have been a much bigger deal than they made it seem. Daenerys taking off on Drogon in season 5 (?) was a much bigger moment. Jon struggling to ride Rheagal was played more for laughs and no other characters really acknowledge the significance. Other than that it was mostly good. Jamie knighting Brienne was probably my favorite moment.

Episode three... what a shit show. I won't rehash everything everybody has already said multiple times, but I just cannot wrap my head around any of the dumb decisions made during this episode. I really have no problem with Arya killing the NK, but how it played out was stupid. Jon and Dani, who were built up to be these larger-than-life characters and possible prince-who-was-promised candidates, played almost zero part in ending the long night... other than massing an army. The series is call A Song of Ice and Fire for Christ's sake. Are we to assume that ending the reign of a drunken queen and her pirate lover is going to be a more significant victory? And Bran, other than being bait, was completely useless. I seriously cannot think of a more anticlimactic ending to the White Walker storyline.

[TimDunkem]

Jon kills Dany.

[chunticakes]

The least you get your hopes up the better. I stopped giving a shit already despite being emotionally invested what, eight-nine years into the show? At this point I expect a Dexter type ending.

[spurraider21]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/572536256840597514/577293698224881702/vjh0lsfzwtx21.png

[Spurminator]

I want to like this episode, but Dany fucking around with peasants instead of rushing straight for the Red Keep just makes no sense at all.

It's another example of writing around desired scenes and ends and ignoring character development and logic. Can't have Dany kill Cercei too quickly or we don't get Cercei and Jamie back together. Seems like there are better ways to achieve that end.

That said, pretty thrilling episode from an action standpoint.

[gambit1990]

so fucking stupid :lol

dany destroying the iron fleet in ten seconds :lol
all of a sudden multiple scorpions can't fire at once :lol
euron conveniently running into jamie :lol
jamie conveniently running into cersei :lol
arya surviving :lol

SMH

[gambit1990]

arya could've been on a plane that crashed into a world trade center and she would've survived.

[Trainwreck2100]

I want to like this episode, but Dany fucking around with peasants instead of rushing straight for the Red Keep just makes no sense at all.

It's another example of writing around desired scenes and ends and ignoring character development and logic. Can't have Dany kill Cercei too quickly or we don't get Cercei and Jamie back together. Seems like there are better ways to achieve that end.

That said, pretty thrilling episode from an action standpoint.

What doesn't make any fucking sense is her destroying that shit, the entire series was "I'm gonna get what's mine" Now it's "I don't want it anymore I'm gonna blow it the fuck up"

[redzero]

:lol Is it me or could all of this have been avoided if Jon just fucked his hot aunt? The entire reason that Dany dropped Daario was to find an eligible suitor in Westeros, but there was never a discussion about marriage when she met Jon. A marriage alliance would have softened the Northerners to her--hopefully shutting Sansa's annoying fucking mouth up--but neither Jon nor Dany's advisors sat down with them and had an actual conversation about it. Varys chose to risk his life and commit treason against Daenerys while still on Dragonstone, because he thought Jon usurping Dany was the best option possible. :lol This shit is so contrived that it's ridiculous.

[angrydude]

Greatest episode of the entire series. Seriously. Makes up for this entire shitty season. If you don't see it, you're an idiot. George RR Martin is super anti-war. He was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam war. He got out of getting drafted because of anti-war short stories he wrote. Dragons in this world are nuclear bombs. This is the most anti-nuclear war message ever, right up there with the ending of The Planet of the Apes.

[BD24]

:lol Is it me or could all of this have been avoided if Jon just fucked his hot aunt? The entire reason that Dany dropped Daario was to find an eligible suitor in Westeros, but there was never a discussion about marriage when she met Jon. A marriage alliance would have softened the Northerners to her--hopefully shutting Sansa's annoying fucking mouth up--but neither Jon nor Dany's advisors sat down with them and had an actual conversation about it. Varys chose to risk his life and commit treason against Daenerys while still on Dragonstone, because he thought Jon usurping Dany was the best option possible. :lol This shit is so contrived that it's ridiculous.
:lol

Yea this episode was really bad for so many reasons. I am just laughing at this point though. Will be interesting to see where the halfwits take it from here.

[redzero]

It's funny to know that this was GRRM's vision all along. D&D and HBO pandered to the YAASS QUEEN crowd with Daenerys for years, knowing full well that she was going to be the true villain of the series the entire time. They even had me convinced that she wasn't all that bad by the end of season seven, and I was apathetic towards her before that. They cut seven episodes of character development needed to make Dany's turn more believable, and replaced them with all of her friends being killed.

I'll be honest and say that I enjoyed the episode, outside of the shitty military tactics and general Hollywood bullshit (e.g., Arya surviving certain death half-a-dozen times). But it's very easy to differentiate between D&D's interpretation of these characters and GRRM's.

https://i.redd.it/tz7mnd493wx21.jpg

[Reck]

This is the first great episode of the season. In terms of action and utter destruction, this is a 10/10 in my book.

I've given up on the plot a few episodes ago. For a hot minute there I thought Arya was 100% killing Cersei. Jamie, what a pussy.

And Cersei definitely needed to die harder.

Now, if one thing's for sure is that Dany is not making it for sure but going by the previews of the next episode, Jon and his gang somehow allowed her to established a foothold on the city and by the looks of it, most of what remained of her armies from episode 3 are intact.

Will be interesting to see how Jon kills her now.

[Beartrucci]

:lol

Yea this episode was really bad for so many reasons. I am just laughing at this point though. Will be interesting to see where the halfwits take it from here.

Honestly one of the most dissapointing GoT episodes ever for me, and I've been in the minority enjoying this season before this episode.

Probably the worst thing was the unworthy deaths of Jamie and Cersei. They deserved a much better sendoff. Oh well. Next week should be fun

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This is the first great episode of the season. In terms of action and utter destruction, this is a 10/10 in my book.

I've given up on the plot a few episodes ago. For a hot minute there I thought Arya was 100% killing Cersei. Jamie, what a pussy.

And Cersei definitely needed to die harder.

Now, if one thing's for sure is that Dany is not making it for sure but going by the previews of the next episode, Jon and his gang somehow allowed her to established a foothold on the city and by the looks of it, most of what remained of her armies from episode 3 are intact.

Will be interesting to see how Jon kills her now.

Great episode by season's 8 standards
Euron popping up perfectly timed to fight Jaime was completely pointless. That man will go down as the stupidest villain in GOT or fantasy ever
The Jaime story arc got sold short going out the way he did. Like 1.5 episodes undid 8 seasons of character development. Oh well. Par for this season's course.

[Xevious]

It's funny to know that this was GRRM's vision all along. D&D and HBO pandered to the YAASS QUEEN crowd with Daenerys for years, knowing full well that she was going to be the true villain of the series the entire time. They even had me convinced that she wasn't all that bad by the end of season seven, and I was apathetic towards her before that. They cut seven episodes of character development needed to make Dany's turn more believable, and replaced them with all of her friends being killed.

I'll be honest and say that I enjoyed the episode, outside of the shitty military tactics and general Hollywood bullshit (e.g., Arya surviving certain death half-a-dozen times). But it's very easy to differentiate between D&D's interpretation of these characters and GRRM's.

https://i.redd.it/tz7mnd493wx21.jpg
I'll be honest and say I never understood the Daenerys character or her motivations, even in the books. She spent years freeing Slavers Bay for what... to practice at being a leader? To convince herself that she was a good person? She could have stayed put and ruled indefinitely, but she was obsessed with a continent that she'd never even been to other than as an infant. Regardless of circumstance, she was never going to just be welcomed onto the iron throne as some kind of a savior. She's actually lucky that she came during a White Walker invasion so that she could at least do something heroic. She's a foreign invader who thinks she's owed something because of her name.

[InRareForm]

Great episode. It has been foreshadowed for so long I don't know why people are bothered of the mad queen.

Maybe that is why ghost didn't get hug/pet from Jon , it is coming next week

[RD2191]

10/10 episode. Fucking neckbeard nerds complaining about every little detail. Take your bitter asses elsewhere tbh:lol not this forum really but just a bunch of hating people everywhere, it's ridiculous

[Reck]

10/10 episode. Fucking neckbeard nerds complaining about every little detail. Take your bitter asses elsewhere tbh:lol not this forum really but just a bunch of hating people everywhere, it's ridiculous

People are seething mad at Dan and David for executing what GRR Martin told them many years ago. :lol

I'll grant you Dany's descent into crazy town was fast tracked but according to what the fat fuck told the show creators, not only did he intend for Dany to go full on retard but also told them the actual ending and that's what they're doing.

I think it's a mob mentality thing. They see people shitting on season 8 and they have to just say something shitty just because.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^The issue isn't that she went crazy, that was very predictable IMO..I'm cool with that..the problem is that it was so rushed, no build up, it makes it appear illogical that she spent 7 seasons freeing slaves and being a champion for the people, yet in just one episode everything changes?

Everything has felt like they just want to get the show over with and move on..

[TimDunkem]

Maybe if they didn't waste so much time with the "hurr durr let's capture a white walker" bs, they could've actually properly built up to the events taking place now.

[spurraider21]

Rhaegal should have been killed in 8.5 right after they rang the bells. Then Dany going mad makes much more sense.

Best comment i read is Jaime throwing bran out the window in 1.1 was amazing subtle foreshadowing for his character development being thrown out the window later in the series

[koriwhat]

i enjoyed last nights episode... watched them all and didn't think it was a let down at all.

[Xevious]

^^The issue isn't that she went crazy, that was very predictable IMO..I'm cool with that..the problem is that it was so rushed, no build up, it makes it appear illogical that she spent 7 seasons freeing slaves and being a champion for the people, yet in just one episode everything changes?

Everything has felt like they just want to get the show over with and move on..

This right here has been the problem since season 5. Everything is rushed. People are zooming all over the globe, their actions make no sense because their is no build-up, there is a lot of lore/religion related things that will never get any explanation, etc. Tyrion last episode even made a comment about the Lord of Light showing up and "fucking off" and it will do no good trying to make sense of it. You get the impression that comment was for the fans. There's no point in trying to figure anything out. It reminds me a lot of Lost. Earlier seasons it seemed like certain things were meticulously planted in the show that would eventually lead somewhere... then the end came and it was all for nothing.

[redzero]

People on r/asoiaf are making the case that fAegon should have been on the throne instead of Cersei, and I have to agree. I never got that far in the books, but a Targaryen-pretender, who got rid of Cersei and is loved by the people, would be a better opponent to Daenerys than le wine whore. Dany wouldn't be justified in burning down King's Landing to spite fAegon, but it would make a lot more sense than her killing peasants to send a message to Cersei, even though Cersei couldn't care less about peasants.

On another note, I can't believe that Tyrion is going to have a position of power at the end of this shitshow. What an absolutely worthless piece of garbage he has been since he killed Tywin.

[Joseph Kony]

how can anyone think last nights episode was good? :lmao it's literally 40 minutes of king's landing burning down and crumbling with another 40 minutes of shitty plot and dialogue. this season is beyond trash. not stoked at all for the finale. what an abortion HBO has turned this show into with GRRM's books to go off of

[spurraider21]

:lmao having arya and the hound ride together from winterfell all the way to kings landing, and only at the final moment the hound tells her not to go through with it... and she just says "ok" :lmao

i know we've been wanting cleganebowl for a long time, but that fight had no purpose other than fan service. tie it to the goddamn plot somehow. for instance, arya is going there to kill cersei. instead of bailing on her mission, you have the mountain get in the way and slap her around, only for sandor to come in and take him on, allowing arya to proceed. defending her one last time. she could say the whole "sandor, thank you" thing right then as he's about to duel his brother. and it would be a callback to syrio saving her from trant's men as she escaped. fuck man... its like they allowed their children to write this season

[gambit1990]

i definitely thought cleganebowl was disappointing too.

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, even the actors think it's been ass:lol

EA7UQOYskas

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao having arya and the hound ride together from winterfell all the way to kings landing, and only at the final moment the hound tells her not to go through with it... and she just says "ok" :lmao

i know we've been wanting cleganebowl for a long time, but that fight had no purpose other than fan service. tie it to the goddamn plot somehow. for instance, arya is going there to kill cersei. instead of bailing on her mission, you have the mountain get in the way and slap her around, only for sandor to come in and take him on, allowing arya to proceed. defending her one last time. she could say the whole "sandor, thank you" thing right then as he's about to duel his brother. and it would be a callback to syrio saving her from trant's men as she escaped. fuck man... its like they allowed their children to write this season
the whole reasoning for Clegane telling her to leave was because if she stayed, yes she would get to kill cercei, but she would die in the keep. So he told her to leave, that being said Cersei deserved a much worse death

[Trill Clinton]

I read the leaks for this season and so far they have been on point. I just shook my head the entire episode. The finale is even worse lol

[InRareForm]

where was bronn? lol he did that entrance to have a chat with Jamie and tyrion for nothing?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

People are seething mad at Dan and David for executing what GRR Martin told them many years ago. :lol

I'll grant you Dany's descent into crazy town was fast tracked but according to what the fat fuck told the show creators, not only did he intend for Dany to go full on retard but also told them the actual ending and that's what they're doing.

I think it's a mob mentality thing. They see people shitting on season 8 and they have to just say something shitty just because.

There's the actual fact that Season 8 is an embarrassment of epic epic historical proportions, there's the circle jerk of people who thought it was great but are jumping on the hate bandwagon, and the reactive circle jerk who think anyone calling out this shit season is an emo-neckbeard.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:lmao having arya and the hound ride together from winterfell all the way to kings landing, and only at the final moment the hound tells her not to go through with it... and she just says "ok" :lmao

i know we've been wanting cleganebowl for a long time, but that fight had no purpose other than fan service. tie it to the goddamn plot somehow. for instance, arya is going there to kill cersei. instead of bailing on her mission, you have the mountain get in the way and slap her around, only for sandor to come in and take him on, allowing arya to proceed. defending her one last time. she could say the whole "sandor, thank you" thing right then as he's about to duel his brother. and it would be a callback to syrio saving her from trant's men as she escaped. fuck man... its like they allowed their children to write this season

:lol yea that arya shit is par for this season's course

Regarding the clegane bowl, absolutely fan service, but the way Qyburn's death made me laugh made me like this whole season. It helped salvage this shit season IMO :lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Hey guys, at least this season's meme-game has been on point. The memes and youtube videos are all gold lol

[InRareForm]

The only major puzzling thing is how Dany goes from liberator of cities to what she did last epsiode. She can go mad on enemies there is no problem how she got to that point....but to do what she did to Kings landing seems like she went pyscho + mad

[HarlemHeat37]

The only major puzzling thing is how Dany goes from liberator of cities to what she did last epsiode. She can go mad on enemies there is no problem how she got to that point....but to do what she did to Kings landing seems like she went pyscho + mad

That would have been a good ending if they had built it up properly..

It's a very thin line..it could have looked great with a full season build-up, where they slowly showed her mental decline and that would have made sense..instead, we get a complete meltdown and character turn in 1 episode lol

Such a disappointing ending..it was so bad that I had it in the background on the 2nd tv while the Raptors game was on and I haven't even rewatched it:lol

[Reck]

i definitely thought cleganebowl was disappointing too.

It was one of the highlights of the episode in my opinion.

The only gripe I have about it is that it wasn't really Gregor. It was just a zombie who didn't feel anything. it wasn't as satisfying as fighting a conscious person that knew how evil he was.

[Reck]

There's the actual fact that Season 8 is an embarrassment of epic epic historical proportions, there's the circle jerk of people who thought it was great but are jumping on the hate bandwagon, and the reactive circle jerk who think anyone calling out this shit season is an emo-neckbeard.

Episode 1 and 2 were OK. Episode 3 was an embarrassment. Episode 4 was episode 1 and 2 all over again.

Episode 5 was pretty good by season 8 standards. People get hunged up on the plot. If you watch the episode for what it is, it's quite enjoyable.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The only major puzzling thing is how Dany goes from liberator of cities to what she did last epsiode. She can go mad on enemies there is no problem how she got to that point....but to do what she did to Kings landing seems like she went pyscho + mad

It would have been believable with proper pacing and writing, given all she's lost over the last 4-7 episodes. But it felt so unnatural and rushed. And telegraphed.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Episode 1 and 2 were OK. Episode 3 was an embarrassment. Episode 4 was episode 1 and 2 all over again.

Episode 5 was pretty good by season 8 standards. People get hunged up on the plot. If you watch the episode for what it is, it's quite enjoyable.

Relative to season 8, yeah I agree with your rankings.
The issue is some people were watching GOT and loved it's rich dialogue and (relatively) smart writing, plots, intrigue, twists. Then we had other people watching oh yaaas dragon power, explosions, zombies comin, let's go team stark etc, who are happy with action only even with little substance. One reviewer I saw on youtube called this the GoT twitter fans.

[HarlemHeat37]

Relative to season 8, yeah I agree with your rankings.
The issue is some people were watching GOT and loved it's rich dialogue and (relatively) smart writing, plots, intrigue, twists. Then we had other people watching oh yaaas dragon power, explosions, zombies comin, let's go team stark etc, who are happy with action only even with little substance. One reviewer I saw on youtube called this the GoT twitter fans.

A large segment of fans rushed through it and are only watching it so they aren't left out of discussions..I doubt they care about the plots and writing:lol

I know many people who don't know most of the characters..several asked me why the Hound and Mountain hated each other lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

We are about to reach or have reached the level of hilarity that Saturday Night Live is likely to jump on the hate circle jerk and lampoon the shitty plot and writing very soon. Paul Rudd hosts this saturday, and other GoT actors have made cameos on SNL :stirpot:

[InRareForm]

The writers said they are turning off their phones and drinking for the last episode. You would have thought it was for this one

[resistanze]

That would have been a good ending if they had built it up properly..

It's a very thin line..it could have looked great with a full season build-up, where they slowly showed her mental decline and that would have made sense..instead, we get a complete meltdown and character turn in 1 episode lol

Such a disappointing ending..it was so bad that I had it in the background on the 2nd tv while the Raptors game was on and I haven't even rewatched it:lol

I like how they used that light skinned girl's head getting lobbed off as her crazy trigger :lol

And it's amazing how everyone's plot armor from ep 3 has worn off...

[Xevious]

I do believe that the mad queen twist is 100% GRRM. The problem is that there was no build up whereas if the books are ever completed (lol), her descent won't be as jarring. There were at least two clues that this was going to happen - Dany's vision of the throne room in ashes during season two, and Bran's vision of a dragon over Kings Landing during season six (the same time he saw Jamie killing Aerys, the Sept of Baelor exploding, etc).

The show really needed two more seasons - one to properly end the NK storyline, and another to wrap everything else up. Squeezing everything into three episodes each is just not working for a show that has always been a slow burn.

[Reck]

The show really needed two more seasons - one to properly end the NK storyline, and another to wrap everything else up. Squeezing everything into three episodes each is just not working for a show that has always been a slow burn.

Strange move from HBO.

They obviously wanted this too keep on going but Dan and Dave said no. At that point I would've gotten a different pair of show runners. It's done all the time.

I wonder if they came as a packaged deal with GRR Martin since he told them the ending from the beginning.

[140]

:lol yea that arya shit is par for this season's course

Regarding the clegane bowl, absolutely fan service, but the way Qyburn's death made me laugh made me like this whole season. It helped salvage this shit season IMO :lol
:lol that was the only good bit of the episode tbh

[BD24]

Damn, even the actors think it's been ass:lol

EA7UQOYskas
:lol
You can tell Peter Dinklage really hates them fucks :lol

I can't blame him after his character transformed from one of the smartest on the show to a completely worthless idiot :lol

[Rosewood]

I do believe that the mad queen twist is 100% GRRM. The problem is that there was no build up whereas if the books are ever completed (lol), her descent won't be as jarring. There were at least two clues that this was going to happen - Dany's vision of the throne room in ashes during season two, and Bran's vision of a dragon over Kings Landing during season six (the same time he saw Jamie killing Aerys, the Sept of Baelor exploding, etc).

The show really needed two more seasons - one to properly end the NK storyline, and another to wrap everything else up. Squeezing everything into three episodes each is just not working for a show that has always been a slow burn. This. The writing has been downright awful since Season 5 IMO but everything has been so rushed on top of the awful writing in S7/8.

Mad Queen was good storytelling, just not enough time to justify it here.

[redzero]

:lol
You can tell Peter Dinklage really hates them fucks :lol

I can't blame him after his character transformed from one of the smartest on the show to a completely worthless idiot :lol

He's a treacherous idiot. Varys saved his life and Tyrion turned his back on him at the drop of a hat.

Everybody's character has been ruined this season:
- Jon's a plot device with no wants or desires. How does he feel about his incestuous relationship with his aunt? How does he feel about Rhaegal and Missandei's deaths? Does he want to be king-consort? Does he want anything anymore?
- Varys watched Daenerys go out of her way to save the people of Westeros, but then decides that she is no good and tries to poison her food. He also tries to get Jon to usurp Dany, even though Jon loves Dany and has spoken directly to Varys maybe one time in the entire show.
- Tyrion is a completely worthless, backstabbing dumbass. He should have been executed in season four.
- Sansa is a wannabe Littlefinger/Cersei who has a rageboner for Dany that goes beyond all reason.
- Arya is a gigantic Mary Sue who cucked Jon out of killing the Night King and was given an enormous amount of screentime in episode five for literally no reason.
- Bran is completely useless. He knows everything but nobody tries to use his powers for their own advantage.
- Jaime's character arc was completely reversed. He left Cersei to save Westeros, but he goes back to Cersei because he doesn't care about Westeros.
- Cersei was predictably a paper tiger. She was pushed into power by D&D so the good guys can have a human enemy. She had no justification for being queen and no justification for staying in power.
- Euron existed just to be annoying. He fought to the death with Jaime for no reason I can think of.
- Missandei was an "advisor" and translator who didn't give advice and didn't translate anything of importance. She didn't even speak to Daenerys since season seven episode four, but her death is supposed to push Dany over the edge.
- Daenerys is hated by everybody for no believable reason I can think of. She is jealous of Jon because he is well-liked in the North. She somehow is under the impression that she won't be loved in Westeros like Jon is, despite the fact that nobody knows or cares about Jon south of Winterfell.

There is no satisfying ending to this. Jon will have to kill Daenerys and the Starks will walk away from this completely unscathed. Tyrion will get a position of power despite not deserving it whatsoever. Bronn will be Lord of Highgarden because he has to be shoehorned into the plot. Bran will be a worthless figurehead king. This ending is pure nihilism.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

even though Jon loves Dany and has spoken directly to Varys maybe one time in the entire show.


:rollin This is the type of subtle subtle dumbfuckery that it takes a while to digest
Like theres so much wrong with this show now I prob never would have realized that had someone not pointed this out :lol

[Xevious]

What's sad is that HBO offered D&D more money to extent the show longer and they refused. If they couldn't leave the project for whatever reason, it seems like they could have brought more people on board to take over the heavy lifting. Even a full ten episodes for seasons 7 and 8 would've helped immensely.

[Reck]

People can be dumb fucks sometimes.

Someone made a petition to remake season 8 and it has well over 30k signatures already. :lol

The pussification of this country is at an all time high. As mediocre as season 8 has been, crying about a remake is just too much.

[leemajors]

What's sad is that HBO offered D&D more money to extent the show longer and they refused. If they couldn't leave the project for whatever reason, it seems like they could have brought more people on board to take over the heavy lifting. Even a full ten episodes for seasons 7 and 8 would've helped immensely.

I can't wait for the meltdown when their Star Wars movie comes out.

[Rosewood]

He's a treacherous idiot. Varys saved his life and Tyrion turned his back on him at the drop of a hat.

Everybody's character has been ruined this season:
- Jon's a plot device with no wants or desires. How does he feel about his incestuous relationship with his aunt? How does he feel about Rhaegal and Missandei's deaths? Does he want to be king-consort? Does he want anything anymore?
- Varys watched Daenerys go out of her way to save the people of Westeros, but then decides that she is no good and tries to poison her food. He also tries to get Jon to usurp Dany, even though Jon loves Dany and has spoken directly to Varys maybe one time in the entire show.
- Tyrion is a completely worthless, backstabbing dumbass. He should have been executed in season four.
- Sansa is a wannabe Littlefinger/Cersei who has a rageboner for Dany that goes beyond all reason.
- Arya is a gigantic Mary Sue who cucked Jon out of killing the Night King and was given an enormous amount of screentime in episode five for literally no reason.
- Bran is completely useless. He knows everything but nobody tries to use his powers for their own advantage.
- Jaime's character arc was completely reversed. He left Cersei to save Westeros, but he goes back to Cersei because he doesn't care about Westeros.
- Cersei was predictably a paper tiger. She was pushed into power by D&D so the good guys can have a human enemy. She had no justification for being queen and no justification for staying in power.
- Euron existed just to be annoying. He fought to the death with Jaime for no reason I can think of.
- Missandei was an "advisor" and translator who didn't give advice and didn't translate anything of importance. She didn't even speak to Daenerys since season seven episode four, but her death is supposed to push Dany over the edge.
- Daenerys is hated by everybody for no believable reason I can think of. She is jealous of Jon because he is well-liked in the North. She somehow is under the impression that she won't be loved in Westeros like Jon is, despite the fact that nobody knows or cares about Jon south of Winterfell.

There is no satisfying ending to this. Jon will have to kill Daenerys and the Starks will walk away from this completely unscathed. Tyrion will get a position of power despite not deserving it whatsoever. Bronn will be Lord of Highgarden because he has to be shoehorned into the plot. Bran will be a worthless figurehead king. This ending is pure nihilism. Good summary tbh, when do you personally think the show went off the rails ? How did you feel about the first few seasons?

[Brazil]

Damn, even the actors think it's been ass:lol

EA7UQOYskas

:lol tbh..

[redzero]

:rollin This is the type of subtle subtle dumbfuckery that it takes a while to digest
Like theres so much wrong with this show now I prob never would have realized that had someone not pointed this out :lol

Just imagine if Varys was successful in poisoning Daenerys. Then what? What about the siege of King's Landing? What about the Dothraki? What about the Unsullied? What about Drogon? What would Varys try to do with Jon?

Best case scenario: Dany dies from being poisoned and Jon somehow tames Drogon. The Unsullied won't follow him because Grey Worm doesn't like him. The Dothraki won't follow him because they won't respect him. Nobody in Westeros would believe Jon is the rightful heir, and Jon doesn't want to rule in the first place.

Let's look at Sansa, too. She conspired against Dany behind Jon's back, because she didn't want Jon going south and wanted to keep the Northern independence.
But her solution was Jon becoming king, which doesn't solve any of her problems. She was against Jon being king-consort because Starks don't do well in the South, but she is for him becoming king? Wouldn't that paint an even bigger target on Jon's back? :lmao This shit makes no sense.

[Big Empty]

I started season 1 4/30 and im all caught up and ready for the ending Sunday. 8 seasons in 19 days. Im in love with the mother of dragons...that is all

[Xevious]

I said I wasn't going to, but I read the leaks. I really hope that's one of the fake endings they said they filmed, or just BS altogether. Because if that's the real end that GRRM gave to D&D for some of these characters... holy shit. Makes no sense.

[Texas_Ranger]

What's sad is that HBO offered D&D more money to extent the show longer and they refused. If they couldn't leave the project for whatever reason, it seems like they could have brought more people on board to take over the heavy lifting. Even a full ten episodes for seasons 7 and 8 would've helped immensely.

that report that HBO was giving more money to make 10ep could be false. Someone with inside informations said that everything about that situation will be known after the show is over. I believe this show should have at least 10-13 season, like GRRM said. I get it that D&D probably wanted to do something else (StarWars), but couldn't they give it to someone else, cause this last season has been shit. Pretty much since season 4 has all gone downhill.

[gambit1990]

almost at a million signatures: https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers

https://i.redd.it/svskgvw6dmy21.png

[Reck]

I wonder if the people wanting a redo are donating money toward the remake. Or do they expect HBO to spend another 10 million dollars to make the crying wankers happy?

[Thanos]

So just every 6 months we’re going to hear untalented nerds bitching about how their favorite things have been ruined and how they could do it so much better :lol We really do need another plague to take our weak ass society down a notch.

[spurraider21]

I wonder if the people wanting a redo are donating money toward the remake. Or do they expect HBO to spend another 10 million dollars to make the crying wankers happy?
HBO makes money off GOT. They don’t need donations for it to be profitable

[Pavlov]

The viewership is up there in World Series territory. I wonder how much of a premium AT&T paid for a network with GoT just to have it end before the deal is done.

[Reck]

HERE.WE.GO

[Thanos]

I’m predicting it will be a competent, decent ending that everyone is going to incessantly bitch about and call the worst episode ever.

[TE]

...

[Spurminator]

I’m predicting it will be a competent, decent ending that everyone is going to incessantly bitch about and call the worst episode ever.

Yep.

[TE]

Doesn’t feel like an ending

[Spurminator]

I thought it this was a very satisfying ending. Unlike previous episodes this season, I didn't find anything particularly out of character or unjustified. Drogon burning the throne was a little bit on-the-nose, but otherwise I don't really have any complaints. I suspect any disappointment from fans with the finale is a byproduct of their disappointment with the season in general. I didn't love every part of this season but I'm coming around on it.

The best part for me was a scene that I know had been predicted before... Dany approaching the throne just like her vision from Season 2, but you now realize the Throne wasn't surrounded by snow in her vision, but ash. Not Ice, but Fire.

It will be interesting to see what people are saying about GoT ten years from now, when enough people have watched it on their own, without all of the surrounding hype, fan theories, discussion, complaining, and all the rest that comes with a popular weekly series. Fans who followed online theories seemed to have their hearts set on certain outcomes that didn't happen, but does that mean the outcomes were bad? For example, did all of the fanboying/fangirling and memification of the "Queen of Dragons" distort what the character actually was throughout the series?

That may be the most fascinating thing about Game of Thrones: fans become so enraptured by a character (who had shown definite signs of sociopathy) that they basically became propagandists for a fictional character, to a point where a perfectly reasonable (almost predictable) end for her character surprised a good number of them enough to basically mutiny against the show.

I'd put Game of Thrones in the second tier of great series, below the likes of Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad and Mad Men. Its writing was never as good as the best TV series, its seasons were often uneven (though you could say that about almost every show ever made), and frankly it was borderline sadistic in parts... but it set new television standards in a lot of areas. I expect once the hype dies down people will rewatch it and find it to be a consistently high quality, thrilling show with captivating characters.

[redzero]

Wow, Jon and Tyrion came across as the biggest wastes of air imaginable in season 8. Tyrion gets rewarded for being a dumbass and Jon has to kill his own aunt/love-interest because he didn't even try to influence the plot in any way for most of the season.

Hey, but at least Jon got to pet Ghost at the end. That makes up for his out of character rejection of his direwolf earlier this season.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ending was fine, they wrapped everything up properly..doesn't change the fact that season 8 was one of the worst seasons ever produced by a highly esteemed show..

[Beartrucci]

Well...I liked it.

Far better than Ep.5, that's for sure.

[Xevious]

I’m predicting it will be a competent, decent ending that everyone is going to incessantly bitch about and call the worst episode ever.
"Competent" and "decent" are not words that should be used to describe a tv show of this calibre. It's a historically big show and arguably one of the best productions ever for the small screen. To end it on a "competent" note is a failure.

[spurraider21]

i still think its one of the great shows of all time. i just think it ended not with a bang but with a whimper

i think jon killing dany makes sense. i just didnt buy the emotional weight behind it since they did very little to establish it. bonding over cave scratchings then banging on a boat one time. didnt feel anything like jon and ygritte. however, i do like jon's ending at the nights watch.

retard bran becoming king... fine. though its a bit odd that the 6 kingdoms would welcome a stark king while the north isn't even part of the kingdoms anymore :lol

tyrion continuing to fall ass backwards into power positions is a meme at this point.

bronn being master on coin?

as a finale, it was fine. not quite dexter as far as finales, but the final season on a whole was quite poor. but like i said, still one of GOAT shows.

[Reck]

Bran the tree becomes king out of nowhere and Jon gets disowned somehow.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/e3/9a/34e39aa0ddb4fb196337b80a3af1e6bc.gif

The part where Sam tries to introduce democracy and everyone laughs was Dan and Dave collectively laughing at the shitshow this show became.

[Reck]

I thought it this was a very satisfying ending. Unlike previous episodes this season, I didn't find anything particularly out of character or unjustified. Drogon burning the throne was a little bit on-the-nose, but otherwise I don't really have any complaints. I suspect any disappointment from fans with the finale is a byproduct of their disappointment with the season in general. I didn't love every part of this season but I'm coming around on it.

The best part for me was a scene that I know had been predicted before... Dany approaching the throne just like her vision from Season 2, but you now realize the Throne wasn't surrounded by snow in her vision, but ash. Not Ice, but Fire.

It will be interesting to see what people are saying about GoT ten years from now, when enough people have watched it on their own, without all of the surrounding hype, fan theories, discussion, complaining, and all the rest that comes with a popular weekly series. Fans who followed online theories seemed to have their hearts set on certain outcomes that didn't happen, but does that mean the outcomes were bad? For example, did all of the fanboying/fangirling and memification of the "Queen of Dragons" distort what the character actually was throughout the series?

That may be the most fascinating thing about Game of Thrones: fans become so enraptured by a character (who had shown definite signs of sociopathy) that they basically became propagandists for a fictional character, to a point where a perfectly reasonable (almost predictable) end for her character surprised a good number of them enough to basically mutiny against the show.

I'd put Game of Thrones in the second tier of great series, below the likes of Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad and Mad Men. Its writing was never as good as the best TV series, its seasons were often uneven (though you could say that about almost every show ever made), and frankly it was borderline sadistic in parts... but it set new television standards in a lot of areas. I expect once the hype dies down people will rewatch it and find it to be a consistently high quality, thrilling show with captivating characters.

What a shit pile of a take.

Where did you see Bran becoming king? Where in the shit did this ever fit in with the overall narrative?

:lmao putting this pile of garbage anywhere near the Sopranos. The ending of this belongs in the realm of Dexter.

[spurraider21]

while i did like jon being sent to the night's watch, i've seen some commenters questioning this as that now belongs to the independent kingdom of the north and now that the unsullied/dothraki are gone jon could just go back and live in winterfell...

[Reck]

while i did like jon being sent to the night's watch, i've seen some commenters questioning this as that now belongs to the independent kingdom of the north and now that the unsullied/dothraki are gone jon could just go back and live in winterfell...

Grey Worn: I WANT JUSTICE

Also Grey Worn: I’m out, peace!

Jon being punished because Grey Worn says so it’s retarded. I mean, him and his unsullied left like the same day he wanted Jon dead. :lol

A better ending for Jon would have been leaving to the actual north with the wildlings. The Night’s Watch shouldn’t even exist.

I guess it says a lot when the whole cast as a collective couldn’t even hide their disappointment with the end result. Oh well.

[spurraider21]

Grey Worn: I WANT JUSTICE

Also Grey Worn: I’m out, peace!

Jon being punished because Grey Worn says so it’s retarded. I mean, him and his unsullied left like the same day he wanted Jon dead. :lol

A better ending for Jon would have been leaving to the actual north with the wildlings. The Night’s Watch shouldn’t even exist.

I guess it says a lot when the whole cast as a collective couldn’t even hide their disappointment with the end result. Oh well.
Do you want to be lord of winterfell?

Bran: I don't want anymore.

Do you want to be king of the 7 kingdoms?

Bran: fuck yeah

[Xevious]

Bran being king makes no sense. Besides the fact that he has no claim... none... who wants a passionless husk as a leader? It'd be like us electing a computer as president. He'd make a far more effective advisor, or just stick his ass with the maesters so they could record history.

And yeah, the Nights Watch shouldn't exist anymore. The wall is fucked up, the White Walkers are gone, and the wildlings shouldn't be considered a threat anymore.

[RD2191]

Grey Worn: I WANT JUSTICE

Also Grey Worn: I’m out, peace!

Jon being punished because Grey Worn says so it’s retarded. I mean, him and his unsullied left like the same day he wanted Jon dead. :lol

A better ending for Jon would have been leaving to the actual north with the wildlings. The Night’s Watch shouldn’t even exist.

I guess it says a lot when the whole cast as a collective couldn’t even hide their disappointment with the end result. Oh well.

Isn't that what happened??

[InRareForm]

Weird how tyrion convincing People even while imprisoned. I feel like tyrion is in a way the King really.. bran is not even a person. As that council meeting showed bran isn't going to be really doing much whilen tyrion directs things. What are brans powers? The show really didn't clearly describe what he can do with his magic . We know about him seeing the past but not clear on predicting the future (even though we got clues) .

What's the point of the nights watch? It's like being sent to antartica.

The ending was fine but the season rushed too far many things and it was a letdown when it came to certain facets of the story like Dany turning , no bran information, politics after Dany dies , etc.

Overall an incredible series and i am sad it's all gone

[Trill Clinton]

I read the leaks all season so I knew it was going to be a trash finale and season.

The council was a clown show.

Greyworm not killing Jon and Tyrion when the unsullied were killing errbody was dumb.

Tyrion as a prisoner dictating who will be king after he was told to shut up lol.

Water bottle behind Sam's leg

GOT joins Carnival, Boardwalk Empire and True Blood as HBO series that started off great but ended terribly.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I didn't mind it because compared to other season 8 episodes it wasn't that bad.

But still made no sense for them to force Jon to go north, The Unsullied were leaving, and everyone in the North fucking Loves Jon, he could have just chilled at Winterfell and not gone north
Happy Sansa got a good outcome.
Happy Brienne did Jaime's legacy some half-assed justice.
Arya resigning herself to starving in the middle of the sea was dumb though lol :lol

[Brazil]

season has been rushed as shit but did not mind too much, it needed to end anyway... now the last episode was cringy as fuck at least for me.. dat sam attempt to implement democray was cringy, like sansa having his brother king but still claiming an indepedent north (wtf?).. john should have killed himself after killing dany with dragon taking both

[redzero]

So if Bran just shut his mouth about Jon's parents, half the conflict of this season wouldn't have happened. Funny that he thought that Jon needed to know who his parents were, even though Bran hasn't bothered telling anybody else anything important of his own volition.

:rollin Westeros will be ruled by an uncaring robot with zero leadership skills.

[InRareForm]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxq9z6jBaDp/?igshid=1uvvlihe8deqr :lol

[RD2191]

I wasn't feeling that independent north shit tbh. Doesn't make much sense.

[RD2191]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxq9z6jBaDp/?igshid=1uvvlihe8deqr :lol

:lol

[BD24]

Honestly it wasn’t awful. At least not compared to the rest of the season. It makes sense that it wasn’t complete shit, if that was the ending GRRM had in mind.

Obviously I have a lot of minor complaints, but I’m fairly satisfied to at least know the end game since fat ass will probably die of diabetes or a heart attack before finishing the books

[johnsmith]

So all that build up and hype about Jon being a Stark and Tygerrian (sp?), and the end result is they basically silence his character and unceremoniously ship him off to the north? Further, I haven’t read the books, so maybe Bran is a bigger character there, but in the shows he was literally left off an entire season at one point and was basically an afterthought for much of the show, but he ends up being king?

I firmly wish the Night King would have won....or at the very least, some more explanation as to the Night Kong’s history other than being stabbed in the heart by a bunch of jive ass green kids would have been nice. Fuck this final season, it sucked ass and this was in my top three prior to the last six weeks. First two episodes were boring as fuck, third episode was too dark, fourth episode was boring, fifth was trash, and then this shit.

[spurraider21]

I wasn't feeling that independent north shit tbh. Doesn't make much sense.
really? they've declared robb and jon as "kings of the north" and had basically functioned as independent for chunks of the series. all the beef between sansa and dany wasn't exatly subtle either. it was more surprising that all the lords just nodded without any consideration. the north always felt and acted different from the rest of the kingdoms.

i thought the weird part was accepting a stark as king of the remaining kingdoms while the north/starks are independent as well.

its also funny that the ironborn, who originally asked dany for independence, but ended up agreeing to be part of the kingdoms (under dany's rule)... now are comfortable with being ruled over by a stark :lol

[DarrinS]

What a shit ending. Those writers had to wrap things up quick, so they can go continue the destruction of Star Wars franchise.

[Trainwreck2100]

I wasn't feeling that independent north shit tbh. Doesn't make much sense.

I was, sansa spelled it out, "we fought army of the dead while you southern cunts slept through it, so fuck off"

[Trainwreck2100]

https://i.redd.it/j717a80z2az21.png

[spurraider21]

love det detective drogon meme

[spurraider21]

daenerys murders hundreds of thousands of people previous episode

perceptive arya: i know a killer when i see one

[spurraider21]

:lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqvljv/i_fixed_the_worst_scene_in_episode_6/

[redzero]

I was, sansa spelled it out, "we fought army of the dead while you southern cunts slept through it, so fuck off"

Also Sansa: "Fuck you, Daenerys, even though you are the only one who came to our aid outside of the Vale," and "Tyrion, Jon won't do well in the South, so let's conspire to make him king behind his and Daenerys' backs."

If the North got independence, everybody else should have asked, too. Dorne and the Iron Islands would have been all over that in a second. But I guess it doesn't matter, since Tullys control all of Westeros anyway--Bran's the king, Edmure Tully has the Riverlands, Sansa is Queen of the North, and Robin Arryn has the Vale.

[redzero]

daenerys murders hundreds of thousands of people previous episode

perceptive arya: i know a killer when i see one

That scene between Tyrion and Jon was basically D&D turning to camera and saying, "All of you were wrong for cheering on Daenerys for being vicious," as if (A) other "good guys" who are still alive hasn't been equally as brutal (e.g., Sansa feeding Ramsay alive to his dogs and Arya becoming a psychotic, vengeance seeking serial killer) and (B) D&D weren't at fault for portraying Dany's brutal behavior as acts of heroism for almost the entire series. They portrayed Dany sympathetically for over 70 episodes of the series. They had her stop her quest for the throne to do the right thing in season seven, then they turned around and took a shit on her for it.

The showrunners wanted to sell Daenerys merchandise to people who viewed her as a hero up until the last second, knowing full well what GRRM's ending was. That's why this season's drama boiled down to everybody saying, "Daenerys bad," "Sansa smart and good," and "Bran wise."

[Reck]

:lol Podricks job is to wheel brain dead Bran all over Kings Landing now.

[spurraider21]

how's he ever gonna get to the tower of the hand?

[NASpurs]

:lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqvljv/i_fixed_the_worst_scene_in_episode_6/

:lmao

[Thanos]

What a shit ending. Those writers had to wrap things up quick, so they can go continue the destruction of Star Wars franchise.
Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?

[BD24]

Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?
:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?

:lol

[Xevious]

So all that build up and hype about Jon being a Stark and Tygerrian (sp?), and the end result is they basically silence his character and unceremoniously ship him off to the north? Further, I haven’t read the books, so maybe Bran is a bigger character there, but in the shows he was literally left off an entire season at one point and was basically an afterthought for much of the show, but he ends up being king?

That's one of the things I'm struggling with right now. Jon's parentage is one of the biggest hinted-at things in the books (and made a big deal on the show), along with the Azor Ahai prophecy... and it was all for nothing. Jon played more of a peripheral part in taking down the NK, he killed Dany only after she had committed genocide, then was shipped off to have no influence on future generations. What was the point of it all? They literally could have removed that plot point from the show altogether and ended the exact same way. Just let us think Jon's mom was a whore.

[Reck]

Can you imagine been shipped to the same place where you got brutally murdered for doing the good thing? Having to pass by the same place every day where you took a dozen knives to the chest. That's twisted.

People say Dany's character got assasinated but Jon's got done worse. Not only did he do absolutely nothing in season 8, but his entire arc meant nothing. He's basically still a bastard to most of the realm.

Jesus Christ what a cluster fuck. The more I think about it the more annoyed I get with the way they handled everything.

[redzero]

Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?

I will make 50% of violent crime disappear with the snap of my fingers.

[spurraider21]

https://i.redd.it/o2kdn3t7hzy21.jpg

[Spurminator]

What a shit pile of a take.

Where did you see Bran becoming king? Where in the shit did this ever fit in with the overall narrative?

:lmao putting this pile of garbage anywhere near the Sopranos. The ending of this belongs in the realm of Dexter.


1. I specifically said tier 2, below Sopranos.
2. I didn't see Bran becoming king. I don't think a show's success hinges on its predictability.

Also, go fuck yourself.

[RandomGuy]

I thought it this was a very satisfying ending. Unlike previous episodes this season, I didn't find anything particularly out of character or unjustified. Drogon burning the throne was a little bit on-the-nose, but otherwise I don't really have any complaints. I suspect any disappointment from fans with the finale is a byproduct of their disappointment with the season in general. I didn't love every part of this season but I'm coming around on it.

The best part for me was a scene that I know had been predicted before... Dany approaching the throne just like her vision from Season 2, but you now realize the Throne wasn't surrounded by snow in her vision, but ash. Not Ice, but Fire.

It will be interesting to see what people are saying about GoT ten years from now, when enough people have watched it on their own, without all of the surrounding hype, fan theories, discussion, complaining, and all the rest that comes with a popular weekly series. Fans who followed online theories seemed to have their hearts set on certain outcomes that didn't happen, but does that mean the outcomes were bad? For example, did all of the fanboying/fangirling and memification of the "Queen of Dragons" distort what the character actually was throughout the series?

That may be the most fascinating thing about Game of Thrones: fans become so enraptured by a character (who had shown definite signs of sociopathy) that they basically became propagandists for a fictional character, to a point where a perfectly reasonable (almost predictable) end for her character surprised a good number of them enough to basically mutiny against the show.

I'd put Game of Thrones in the second tier of great series, below the likes of Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad and Mad Men. Its writing was never as good as the best TV series, its seasons were often uneven (though you could say that about almost every show ever made), and frankly it was borderline sadistic in parts... but it set new television standards in a lot of areas. I expect once the hype dies down people will rewatch it and find it to be a consistently high quality, thrilling show with captivating characters.

Well acted... poorly written. After it departed from the books, they did the standard Hollywood schlock making it about the individual characters instead of institutions, movements, and wider society.

[Spurminator]

:cry Bran didn't deserve to be King :cry

No shit, that was kind of the point. He was installed as king by an oligarchy to pacify the masses.

:cry Tyrion was completely useless and still gets to be Hand :cry

Yeah, where have we seen shitty foreign policy types continue to be given powerful foreign policy positions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton

The approach was obviously to end the show the way the writers felt things WOULD happen, not how they felt they SHOULD happen. If they were trying to do the latter, they wouldn't have specifically written in a section where the lords laugh off the concept of democracy.

Every critique that hinges on whether a character was worthy of his/her end (and that seems to be the majority of criticisms of this episode) requires the presumption that everyone gets what he deserves in the end. I'm surprised anyone who has ever had a high regard for this show wants so badly for it to have a standard "happy" ending.

This show was nowhere near as good as The Wire, but the final episodes are similar in message. We are destined to repeat the same mistakes and society will continue on the same self destructive cycle.

[spurraider21]

:cry Bran didn't deserve to be King :cry

No shit, that was kind of the point. He was installed as king by an oligarchy to pacify the masses.

:cry Tyrion was completely useless and still gets to be Hand :cry

Yeah, where have we seen shitty foreign policy types continue to be given powerful foreign policy positions?

The approach was obviously to end the show the way the writers felt things WOULD happen, not how they felt they SHOULD happen. If they were trying to do the latter, they wouldn't have specifically written in a section where the lords laugh off the concept of democracy.

Every critique that hinges on whether a character was worthy of his/her end (and that seems to be the majority of criticisms of this episode) requires the presumption that everyone gets what he deserves in the end. I'm surprised anyone who has ever had a high regard for this show wants so badly for it to have a standard "happy" ending.
doesn't have to be happy. i dont care if grey worm killed jon. jon's MO has been doing to right thing and living with the consequences. wouldn't be the first time he died for doing the right thing. the endings just have to make sense.

ironborn previously asked for independence and were denied. now they're happily going to be bran's subjects while "the north" can just claim independence willy nilly? that doesn't make sense. it was rushed. its not a question of tyrion "deserving" to be hand. we know that compared to others, he is clever and tries to think things out. but given his history, would somebody actually name him hand of the king?

surprises and plot twists are fine. but they still have to be earned. a good surprise would be one that causes you to reconsider a lot of the past events/dialogue and see them in a different light. sixth sense had a huge twist. but then when you re-watch it, it all makes sense. same with shutter island, etc. look at the red wedding. huge shock moment for the audience, but watching through the sequence of events the second time, its easier to see it coming. catelyn letting jamie go, rob killing the karstark guy, robb betraying his promise to frey, etc etc. it's a surprise, but an earned one.

arya appearing out thin air to land on top of the NK is a surprise. but not earned. thats been the issue with a lot of what's happened. sure, there were hints of dany going mad queen. but foreshadowing isn't the same as character development. there wasn't enough to push her over the edge in that moment to justify her murdering all the civilians. and she tried justifying it to jon after the fact saying that cersei used innocents to expose dany's weakness. but by the time the bells were run and they surrendered, that was a moot point. its just poorly done.

would have made more sense for the second dragon to not have stupidly died that previous episode, and have some rogue lannister launch the scorpion bolt at him after they run the bells. that would justify her snapping in the moment.

the writing was sub par. i dont care if the ending is happy or sad. it just has to be earned.

[Spurminator]

ironborn previously asked for independence and were denied. now they're happily going to be bran's subjects while "the north" can just claim independence willy nilly? that doesn't make sense. it was rushed.

Who's to say the arrangements made in the final episode were permanent? Maybe the Iron Born revolt in 5 years. Very likely the Unsullied don't stay pacified for long.

Kings are bad. That was a dominant message. Yet, the show ends with another King... one with familial, collusive ties to an independent kingdom. There's no reason to believe or expect that Westeros is destined for longterm peace now.

[spurraider21]

Who's to say the arrangements made in the final episode were permanent? Maybe the Iron Born revolt in 5 years. Very likely the Unsullied don't stay pacified for long.

Kings are bad. That was a dominant message. Yet, the show ends with another King... one with familial, collusive ties to an independent kingdom. There's no reason to believe or expect that Westeros is destined for longterm peace now.
its still stupid for them all to nod in agreement on the spot with nary a discussion about the north's independence or anybody elses. yeah theres probably more wars and revolts later sure. but this was still written as a conclusion to the story. who's to say that 10 years after the plot of armageddon a nuclear war wipes out the earth. does that dampen the conclusion of the story that the earth was saved by bruce willis? no, thats the conclusion of that story.

the wheel has somewhat broken with bloodlines no longer determining succession.

[Spurminator]

its still stupid for them all to nod in agreement on the spot with nary a discussion about the north's independence or anybody elses. yeah theres probably more wars and revolts later sure. but this was still written as a conclusion to the story.

Well, I think you're getting into smaller details that are easily (and fairly) nitpicked. I have plenty of those for this season and previous ones. It just didn't ruin the show for me.

I think the comparisons to Dexter are silly. But like I said, it will be interesting to see how people feel about it in ten years.

[spurraider21]

im a huge fan of the show and still think that the overall body of work is Tier 1 imho. its conclusion was just not up to the standards that the show had set. they were lofty standards to be sure. if i'm just looking at S1-6 i'd put it up there with any show, save breaking bad

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaNENRfrzbE

[spurraider21]

Well, I think you're getting into smaller details that are easily (and fairly) nitpicked. I have plenty of those for this season and previous ones. It just didn't ruin the show for me.

I think the comparisons to Dexter are silly. But like I said, it will be interesting to see how people feel about it in ten years.
i would compare it to dexter in that the endings were weak. but at least GoT took a stand somehwere. dexter's ending was the ultimate copout. but dexter was great for the first 4 seasons (S3 not quite as much, but still high quality), and had a sharp dropoff and seasons 5-8 were not nearly as good. its different for 50% of a show to be poor and 50% to be great, compared to Thrones where the first 80% of episodes were good and it ended on a lower note.

its fair to say the latter seasons were of weaker quality, but no, i wont say the ending was a copout like dexter. it just wasn't compelling. jon killing dany wasn't the emotional climax it was supposed to be. not even close.

[Reck]

:cry Bran didn't deserve to be King :cry

No shit, that was kind of the point. He was installed as king by an oligarchy to pacify the masses.

How does installing Bran as king pacify the masses? First of all, he's a Stark and hated in kings Landing. He's not an unifying figure and he lacks the skills to communicate and motivate a group of 5 let alone an entire kingdom. He barely fucking speaks.

I do apologize for going off on you last night though. It's your opinion and that's fine.

IMO, I dont know if it was here or somewhere else that this was said but Tyrion is really the king behind close doors. I would go as far as saying Tommen was a far more active king and he did nothing.

The last shots were all from Tyrion making deals and making stuff happen. This was a shock move by the writers, nothing more.

[spurraider21]

How does installing Bran as king pacify the masses? First of all, he's a Stark and hated in kings Landing. He's not an unifying figure and he lacks the skills to communicate and motivate a group of 5 let alone an entire kingdom. He barely fucking speaks.

I do apologize for going off on you last night though. It's your opinion and that's fine.

IMO, I dont know if it was here or somewhere else that this was said but Tyrion is really the king behind close doors. I would go as far as saying Tommen was a far more active king and he did nothing.

The last shots were all from Tyrion making deals and making stuff happen. This was a shock move by the writers, nothing more.
its not all that alarming that the hand of the king is calling a lot of the shots. we saw it with tyrion in season 2, tywin in seasons 3-4. tyrion counseled dany quite a bit in the later seasons and she almost always took his advice.

there are justifiable reasons to make bran king (his motivations dont appear to be in self interest or power). he's not a polarizing figure. and end of the day is the lords approve, their subjects will likely follow. jon would likely have been the choice had he not just committed regicide, but jon suffering the consequences of making the right decision has been a pretty consistent theme for him, so that doesn't bother me.

[FkLA]

lol Bran the Broken

I hadn't really had too much to complain about with the rest of the season even though it's been the edgy thing to do...but man giving the crown to Bran was pretty gay. I honestly rolled my eyes when he said "why do you think I came all this way", tbh.

[Spurminator]

its fair to say the latter seasons were of weaker quality, but no, i wont say the ending was a copout like dexter. it just wasn't compelling. jon killing dany wasn't the emotional climax it was supposed to be. not even close.

I think Jon killing Dany was anticlimactic by design. It's basically written as part of the denouement. The climax is the destruction of King's Landing and the good guys realizing they've cast their lots with a different tyrant. Hard to say that didn't have an emotional climactic effect.

There's little suspense in Dany's death because you know it has to happen (though there was some shred of doubt after Jon talks to Tyrion).

[gambit1990]

thought it was one of the better episodes of the season (not saying much though)... but there’s still a ton to complain about tbh.

grey worm having the patience to keep jon prisoner :lol “he killed our queen... let’s fly ravens to the other kingdoms and i’ll wait until we have a date set that works for everyone even though i’m not obligated. i helped destroy a city and killed people after they surrendered, but killing someone who killed my queen? nah, he deserves justice... and by justice i mean whatever other people in the realm decide.”

[Spurminator]

How does installing Bran as king pacify the masses? First of all, he's a Stark and hated in kings Landing. He's not an unifying figure and he lacks the skills to communicate and motivate a group of 5 let alone an entire kingdom. He barely fucking speaks.

I do apologize for going off on you last night though. It's your opinion and that's fine.

IMO, I dont know if it was here or somewhere else that this was said but Tyrion is really the king behind close doors. I would go as far as saying Tommen was a far more active king and he did nothing.

The last shots were all from Tyrion making deals and making stuff happen. This was a shock move by the writers, nothing more.

:lol You can call my opinion shitty, I just thought it was weird that you didn't really reference anything I said in doing so. No harm done.

Like I said, I'm not defending the ending as an example of everyone making the right decisions, but I do think it's a pretty accurate representation of how things would have been handled in the aftermath (with some exceptions).

[spurraider21]

I think Jon killing Dany was anticlimactic by design. It's basically written as part of the denouement. The climax is the destruction of King's Landing and the good guys realizing they've cast their lots with a different tyrant. Hard to say that didn't have an emotional climactic effect.

There's little suspense in Dany's death because you know it has to happen (though there was some shred of doubt after Jon talks to Tyrion).
dany flipping was definitely a big deal, no doubt.

but if they took more time to develop jon/dany's relationship (they literally went from mutual admiration to boning one time on a boat, and then from then on forward they were supposedly "in love" but full of awkward scenes throughout the season), that scene could have been so much more powerful. tyrion and jon were talking about the duty/love thing and it doesnt have any weight when the audience isnt really all that convinced about their "love" which was pretty rushed and glossed over.

had jaime killed cersei, for example, we'd feel that. imo they were going for a diet coke version of that with jon/dany, but it just didnt work.

[spurraider21]

but in fairness, lets all praise this shot

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[spurraider21]

and the resulting memes

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqqytt/be_a_dragon/

[Spurminator]

dany flipping was definitely a big deal, no doubt.

but if they took more time to develop jon/dany's relationship (they literally went from mutual admiration to boning one time on a boat, and then from then on forward they were supposedly "in love" but full of awkward scenes throughout the season), that scene could have been so much more powerful. tyrion and jon were talking about the duty/love thing and it doesnt have any weight when the audience isnt really all that convinced about their "love" which was pretty rushed and glossed over.

had jaime killed cersei, for example, we'd feel that. imo they were going for a diet coke version of that with jon/dany, but it just didnt work.

Totally agree the Dany/Jon romance was rushed, like almost everything the last two seasons. The pacing difference vs. previous seasons was extreme.

[FkLA]

but in fairness, lets all praise this shot

1130284549311729667

That was a great shot. I rewinded a couple times for it. :tu

[spurraider21]

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[HarlemHeat37]

It could have been the GOAT show if it had 10 seasons where they didn't have to start rushing everything..usually I think 6 seasons is too many for a show, but this would have been the exception, too many characters, too much history, etc..

For a show like this, patience and anticipation was everything early on..once it became a fast-paced show, it was a disaster..

[Reck]

The series finale has officially being rated a worst finale than Dexter according to IMDB, Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. Ouch

[spurraider21]

The series finale has officially being rated a worst finale than Dexter according to IMDB, Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. Ouch
i disagree with that. i think dexter finished in about the worst possible way. thrones' execution this last season was poor, but the conclusion wasn't the worst case scenario

plus dexter was more or less so bad by that point it wasn't bothering that many people :lol... the show really took a turn for the worse after season 4 (i think season 7 was actually decent with Ray Stevenson portraying that russian ganster dude).

people are complaining a lot more about Thrones because expectations were so much higher going into the last season

[HarlemHeat37]

i disagree with that. i think dexter finished in about the worst possible way. thrones' execution this last season was poor, but the conclusion wasn't the worst case scenario

plus dexter was more or less so bad by that point it wasn't bothering that many people :lol... the show really took a turn for the worse after season 4 (i think season 7 was actually decent with Ray Stevenson portraying that russian ganster dude).

people are complaining a lot more about Thrones because expectations were so much higher going into the last season

It's also the most discussed show in history, the biggest social media phenomenon we've had..there's a lot of groupthink that affects perception, as well..

[redzero]

It's also the most discussed show in history, the biggest social media phenomenon we've had..there's a lot of groupthink that affects perception, as well..

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore and didn't want anybody else to touch their "creation." Hopefully, the bad blood between them and fans will make them unemployable in the future, but that probably won't be the case. Good thing people are already tired of Star Wars and the fanbases interlap.

[spurraider21]

https://preview.redd.it/o033ko912ez21.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&8054aa1ahttps://i.redd.it/o033ko912ez21.jpg

[leemajors]

Can you imagine been shipped to the same place where you got brutally murdered for doing the good thing? Having to pass by the same place every day where you took a dozen knives to the chest. That's twisted.

People say Dany's character got assasinated but Jon's got done worse. Not only did he do absolutely nothing in season 8, but his entire arc meant nothing. He's basically still a bastard to most of the realm.

Jesus Christ what a cluster fuck. The more I think about it the more annoyed I get with the way they handled everything.

Jon fucked up left and right. He failed up at every turn.

[Trill Clinton]

Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?

Lol

[Xevious]

https://i.redd.it/o2kdn3t7hzy21.jpg

Jesus I miss Charles Dance as Tywin. I've been rewatching some older episodes and that scene when he sends Joffrey to bed is fucking awesome. Nobody else had the screen presence he had... maybe Diana Rigg as Olenna.

[DJR210]

:lmao what a piece of steaming shit. This season was such a failure.

How the fuck is the Dothraki and Unsullied gonna sit back and let their beloved Queen get killed by Jon Snow and nobody does shit about it? Didn't she "break their chains"? The fucking Dragon must not have a penis/balls either, cuz he didn't do shit either. I was SMH when Jon is walking through the streets, walking elbow to elbow w/ Dothraki and Unsullied, and nobody could give a shit less..

Grey Worm takes Jon back to his own friends to snitch on him and even though he say's he "cannot" they go ahead and let him off the hook and choose a new leader :lol

A non-experienced fucking cripple at that :lol

[Beartrucci]

A non-experienced fucking cripple at that :lol

Is he inexperienced though? He can see all the decisions/strategies/mistakes any leader has ever made.

[Reck]

https://i.redd.it/pmravuqggdz21.jpg

Game of Memes. :lol

[Beartrucci]

Game of Memes. :lol

Seriously I think she said that 3 times in 5 minutes :lol the writing was so awful at points

[resistanze]

Maybe I missed something, but how did Grey Worm teleport to the steps with Dany?

Jon and Davos left Grey Worm see Dany when Grey Worm was executing Lannister soldiers :lol

[resistanze]

I also found it weird Dany would put herself in position to be murdered by Jon given her growing suspicion and events leading up to that point:
- Found out Jon had a better claim to the throne
- Found out many people were conspiring against her to have Jon take the throne
- He already betrayed her trust by telling Sansa and co
- She had to know Jon would not support her massacring a million innocent people

Really? No guards? Tyrion even suggested Dany would come after Jon next. Jesus.

[Xevious]

Is he inexperienced though? He can see all the decisions/strategies/mistakes any leader has ever made.
So you'd be cool electing Alexa as your leader?

[redzero]

I also found it weird Dany would put herself in position to be murdered by Jon given her growing suspicion and events leading up to that point:
- Found out Jon had a better claim to the throne
- Found out many people were conspiring against her to have Jon take the throne
- He already betrayed her trust by telling Sansa and co
- She had to know Jon would not support her massacring a million innocent people

Really? No guards? Tyrion even suggested Dany would come after Jon next. Jesus.

The fact that Tyrion and Jon were able to even have an unsupervised conversation about killing Dany in the first place is retarded. Jon being able to walk around with his weapons, after clashing with Grey Wrom, was retarded. Dany having no guards but Drogon was retarded. Did Drogon do a sweep of the throne room before Dany went in? She thought she could just walk around after committing mass murder?

The first 30 minutes looked badass, but that's about it. Daenerys went from Dragon Hitler in one scene to naive little girl in the next. And we're supposed to want Tyrion to be pardoned when he did commit treason by releasing Jaime and trying to rescue Cersei?

[DJR210]

The fact that Tyrion and Jon were able to even have an unsupervised conversation about killing Dany in the first place is retarded. Jon being able to walk around with his weapons, after clashing with Grey Wrom, was retarded. Dany having no guards but Drogon was retarded. Did Drogon do a sweep of the throne room before Dany went in? She thought she could just walk around after committing mass murder?

Fucking stupid ass gatekeeper dragon allows Jon in then doesn't kill him, but the Iron Throne for the murder of his mother.. I fucking hate this season. Total disgrace of a final season to a show I have in my top 3 w/ Breaking Bad and Sopranos.

[Xevious]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I get. :lol

[redzero]

Fucking stupid ass gatekeeper dragon allows Jon in then doesn't kill him, but the Iron Throne for the murder of his mother.. I fucking hate this season. Total disgrace of a final season to a show I have in my top 3 w/ Breaking Bad and Sopranos.

And then Grey Worm or the Unsullied or the Dothraki don't kill Jon. And they don't kill Tyrion either, even though he was going to be executed anyway. And Grey Worm lets Tyrion get off scot-free despite saying that Tyrion's punishment "isn't enough." Then he lets Jon go to the Wall as "punishment," even though the Wall is in the now independent North and there is literally no way to ensure that Jon stays there. And then Grey Worm leaves before even seeing Jon's punishment being carried out.

This season was a dumpster fire. The first episode was okay and the second was good, but the rest were terrible. There were THREE different main villains in THREE consecutive episodes, and the final villain's heel turn didn't make any sense. Almost every single character was dumbed down and portrayed out of character for the plot to even be possible. Jon was made completely useless for almost all of the season. With his backstory and stature, he had the most interesting plotline, but he was turned to a plot device to sell the Mad Queen plot. Tyrion became even dumber and still believed in Cersei having the capacity for goodness for no reason. Jaime should have died in Winterfell, because what D&D did to his character afterwards was criminal. Cersei did nothing, her pregnancy meant nothing, and D&D tried to portray her demise sympathetically for no logical reason I can think of. Daenerys is hated or ignored by almost every other important character for little logical reason beyond turning her into the second Mad Queen, and the turn still didn't make sense in the end. Arya became even more of a Mary Sue, and she was shoehorned into King's Landing plot for no reason. Sansa was allegedly "smart," but she antagonized Daenerys to her face and trying to have Jon usurp her without Jon's knowledge. Varys read the scripts beforehand and tried to kill Daenerys off before King's Landing was even captured. He tried to convince Jon to overthrow her despite Jon barely knowing him and Daenerys being Jon's kin and lover. Missandei didn't talk to Daenerys for the entire season up until her death, and we are supposed to believe that her death is partially what pushed Dany over the edge. Rhaegal died nonsensically to also push Dany over the edge, and Jon didn't even care. Ghost was abandoned by Jon solely so Jon could come back to him in the end, and retarded audiences ate that shit all up. Davos didn't advise Jon at all. Nobody cared about using Bran's powers for their own gain, and the lords of Westeros accepted him as king for no reason. Harry Strickland and the Golden Company didn't even need to exist. Bronn was shoehorned into the fourth consecutive season, because people like this useless character. Euron existed only to annoy and antagonize, teleporting wherever the plot needed him to be for drama. Maybe Theon and Jorah are the only characters with

I accepted season seven for what it was, even though it was rushed. In hindsight, it pushed the White Walker threat as the most important conflict for no reason. It pushed Jon's importance as a Targaryen and the rightful heir, but the show didn't even try to explore how he feels about it. It foreshadowed Jon and Daenerys working together in almost equal status, but then Jon followed Dany around like a lapdog and the pregnancy foreshadowing wasn't even addressed. Almost everything was turned on its head to "subvert expectations," and D&D were arrogant and lazy enough to think they could tie everything up in six episodes.

[Othyus Lalanne]

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore and didn't want anybody else to touch their "creation." Hopefully, the bad blood between them and fans will make them unemployable in the future, but that probably won't be the case. Good thing people are already tired of Star Wars and the fanbases interlap.

Why do they have to be unemployable?

[redzero]

Why do they have to be unemployable?
I never claimed that they had to be unemployable. I want them to be unemployable because I don't like what they did to Game of Thrones.

[Xevious]

I especially like the pimping they did of the Golden Company as one of the best armies-for-hire with their elephants and shit. Then they didn't even bring the elephants (lol CGI budget) and they got wiped out without swinging a single sword. :lol

What the fuck did Varys hear in the fire that they though it important enough to tease multiple times throughout the series?

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

Even though they didn't directly mention it on the show, lol Valonqar prophecy.

And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that fucking badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

And if they were going to fuck over Jon and have Dany burn down KL as they did, I'd almost perfer that the seven kingdoms all just go their separate ways - with Sansa, Bron (lol), Gendry, Sweet Robin, Tyrion, and whoever else going on to lead their respective realms. King Bran is a fucking joke. Arya taking off to explore is the only end that felt correct.

[Othyus Lalanne]

I never claimed that they had to be unemployable. I want them to be unemployable because I don't like what they did to Game of Thrones.

Till they are dead?

[redzero]

Till they are dead?

Okay, let's back up. I don't want David Benioff and DB Weiss to not be able to have any job whatsoever for the rest of their lives. I do want them to not be directors, screenwriters, etc., based on how poorly they handled Game of Thrones. They could run Apple for all I care, but I wouldn't let them within a mile of a TV show.

[spurraider21]

I especially like the pimping they did of the Golden Company as one of the best armies-for-hire with their elephants and shit. Then they didn't even bring the elephants (lol CGI budget) and they got wiped out without swinging a single sword. :lol

What the fuck did Varys hear in the fire that they though it important enough to tease multiple times throughout the series?

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

Even though they didn't directly mention it on the show, lol Valonqar prophecy.

And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that fucking badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

And if they were going to fuck over Jon and have Dany burn down KL as they did, I'd almost perfer that the seven kingdoms all just go their separate ways - with Sansa, Bron (lol), Gendry, Sweet Robin, Tyrion, and whoever else going on to lead their respective realms. King Bran is a fucking joke. Arya taking off to explore is the only end that felt correct.
and even then she was lovey dovey with him in the last scene

[redzero]

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

And why did Melisandre go back to Volantis? And where were Kinvara and the other red priests/priestesses?


And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that fucking badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

She didn't even care that he was the rightful heir. Jon didn't even want to be King. Dany wanted to rule together with Jon and the only reason Jon had to know that he was the true king was so people could conspire behind his back to put him on the throne. Sansa and Varys were trying to kill Dany off and put Jon on the throne without him even knowing, and Dany still trusted him beyond all reason.

[Xevious]

And why did Melisandre go back to Volantis? And where were Kinvara and the other red priests/priestesses?



She didn't even care that he was the rightful heir. Jon didn't even want to be King. Dany wanted to rule together with Jon and the only reason Jon had to know that he was the true king was so people could conspire behind his back to put him on the throne. Sansa and Varys were trying to kill Dany off and put Jon on the throne without him even knowing, and Dany still trusted him beyond all reason.

There are theories online that Bran is really evil. He purposefully set events in motion that led to KL being burned and him being named King.

[spurraider21]

There are theories online that Bran is really evil. He purposefully set events in motion that led to KL being burned and him being named King.
but bran can't really see the future.

he's had scant visions like of the dragon over KL but he cant just view it at his leisure. besides, visions of the future sorta implies the future is already predetermined... not subject to their changes

[redzero]

but bran can't really see the future.

he's had scant visions like of the dragon over KL but he cant just view it at his leisure. besides, visions of the future sorta implies the future is already predetermined... not subject to their changes

Even if it was 100% unintentional, Bran in the TV show comes across as malicious and self-serving. He went all the way to King's Landing to be crowned king. He gave Arya that dagger because he knew that she would eliminate The Night King. He got Sam to tell Jon about his parentage to cause discontent. He doesn't intervene in crucial moments unless it benefits him.

[spurraider21]

Even if it was 100% unintentional, Bran in the TV show comes across as malicious and self-serving. He went all the way to King's Landing to be crowned king. He gave Arya that dagger because he knew that she would eliminate The Night King. He got Sam to tell Jon about his parentage to cause discontent. He doesn't intervene in crucial moments unless it benefits him.
how did he know she would eliminate the night king? she along with the rest of the northerners had dragonglass weapons perfectly capable of slaying him.

[Xevious]

but bran can't really see the future.

he's had scant visions like of the dragon over KL but he cant just view it at his leisure. besides, visions of the future sorta implies the future is already predetermined... not subject to their changes

Even if he couldn't clearly see the future, there were times when he seemed to act in his own self interest. Like giving Theon one last pep talk so that he'd charge the NK and destract him long enough for Arya to get there. The Jon business is a big one (he needs to know), which only put a wedge between him and Dany, led to others conspiring against her, and Kl getting burned by Drogon, which he did get a flash of. And the times that he'd just glare at Tyrion the first could of episodes tells me he knew something else... that he'd his hand perhaps.

[Reck]

There are theories online that Bran is really evil. He purposefully set events in motion that led to KL being burned and him being named King.

Yet he lets Tyrion the goodie-two shoes run the show while Podrick wheels him god knows where.

He'd make a terrible evil king. Bran is more a a dickhead than evil due to his lack of social skills.

[spurraider21]

Even if he couldn't clearly see the future, there were times when he seemed to act in his own self interest. Like giving Theon one last pep talk so that he'd charge the NK and destract him long enough for Arya to get there. The Jon business is a big one (he needs to know), which only put a wedge between him and Dany, led to others conspiring against her, and Kl getting burned by Drogon, which he did get a flash of. And the times that he'd just glare at Tyrion the first could of episodes tells me he knew something else... that he'd his hand perhaps.
you dont know that though. you're assuming bran knew that would happen

[redzero]

how did he know she would eliminate the night king? she along with the rest of the northerners had dragonglass weapons perfectly capable of slaying him.

He said that he went to King's Landing to be King, but he can't see the future? He can go into the past and make Hodor retarded, but he can't change anything? He can warg into Hodor to kill Locke, but he has no effect on the present? He can expose Littlefinger's treachery, but he can't expose Cersei's?

Bran absolutely can see important parts of the future and he CHOSE to tell Jon his parentage just to stir shit.

[spurraider21]

He said that he went to King's Landing to be King, but he can't see the future?
yeah this one threw me off, because previously they hadn't given any real indication that he knows what's going to happen in the future imho


He can go into the past and make Hodor retarded, but he can't change anything?
but hodor was already retarded, so that event was always going to happen


He can warg into Hodor to kill Locke, but he has no effect on the present?
every person who takes an action affects the present. that has nothing to do with him knowing the future


He can expose Littlefinger's treachery, but he can't expose Cersei's?
who would he tell? everyone around him already knows cersei is a cunt. everyone knows she blew up the sept.


Bran absolutely can see important parts of the future and he CHOSE to tell Jon his parentage just to stir shit.
we hadn't ever seen that demonstrating outside of fleeting visions here and there. he can go back and see the past pretty freely, which is how he learned on jon's parentage. just because he can glance into the past doesnt mean he can glance into the future. three eyed raven talked to him about getting lost in the past, etc. never the future

[Xevious]

you dont know that though. you're assuming bran knew that would happen

Perhaps, but it seemed pretty obvious that Theon was near his giving up point.

[Reck]

Bran absolutely can see important parts of the future and he CHOSE to tell Jon his parentage just to stir shit.

Which makes the ending Jon got even more of a letdown.

When Jon said he's sorry he wasn't there for Bran (Not like he could help it since Caitlin the cunt made him leave for the night watch in the first place) and then that faggot Bran telling him he was right where he wanted him to be just pissed me the fuck off.

It's like his character didn't matter at all despite the show's importance hinging on Jon since season 5. This is why the finale doesn't work for me. As a Jon fanboy I feel cheated as shit.

I would've been ok with him CHOOSING to go to the north on his own as his own punishment but not because good old Bran decided welp, you're completely useless to me so I'm banishing you.

[redzero]

yeah this one threw me off, because previously they hadn't given any real indication that he knows what's going to happen in the future imho


but hodor was already retarded, so that event was always going to happen


every person who takes an action affects the present. that has nothing to do with him knowing the future


who would he tell? everyone around him already knows cersei is a cunt. everyone knows she blew up the sept.


we hadn't ever seen that demonstrating outside of fleeting visions here and there. he can go back and see the past pretty freely, which is how he learned on jon's parentage. just because he can glance into the past doesnt mean he can glance into the future. three eyed raven talked to him about getting lost in the past, etc. never the future

It was demonstrated in the final episode that he can tell the future. You admit it them deny it. And he can tell everybody what Cersei and Euron are doing, which would have helped immensely.

[spurraider21]

It was demonstrated in the final episode that he can tell the future. You admit it them deny it. And he can tell everybody what Cersei and Euron are doing, which would have helped immensely.
unless he wasn't necessarily saying he saw it coming. but that he came all this way knowing that a leader would have to be chosen and he saw himself fit because of his knowledge and whatnot. it would be really dumb for the show to dive deep into his ability to see past events, and only have random fleeting snapshots of future events and then all of a sudden "oh he could see the entire future the whole time"

[redzero]

unless he wasn't necessarily saying he saw it coming. but that he came all this way knowing that a leader would have to be chosen and he saw himself fit because of his knowledge and whatnot. it would be really dumb for the show to dive deep into his ability to see past events, and only have random fleeting snapshots of future events and then all of a sudden "oh he could see the entire future the whole time"

Everything in this season was very dumb, including Bran being elected King, so why are you qualifying now? He says that he went to King's Landing to be elected King, and you still think that he didn't know it would happen?

[DarrinS]

Spot on


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

[Xevious]

Why would a cripple with no experience/leadership abilities and no claim to anything just assume he was going to be elected if he couldn't see the future? :lol

[spurraider21]

Why would a cripple with no experience/leadership abilities and no claim to anything just assume he was going to be elected if he couldn't see the future? :lol
if everybody interpreted it that way then nobody would have been cool with it :lol... like wait this fucker knew all this would happen? thats not how it seemed to play off. i dno man, its really hard to make sense of this season :lol

[redzero]

if everybody interpreted it that way then nobody would have been cool with it :lol... like wait this fucker knew all this would happen? thats not how it seemed to play off. i dno man, its really hard to make sense of this season :lol

He tells everybody that he knew what was going to happen, and nobody cares. He can spy on anybody in Westeros, but nobody cares. He is voted to be King for no logical reason. Nobody knows who he is or what he has been through, but Tyrion--who was "on trial," by the way--convinced all the lords of Westeros to make Bran king instead of just declaring independence.

None of this season made since, and the electection scene is one of the biggest offenders.

[spurraider21]

He tells everybody that he knew what was going to happen, and nobody cares. He can spy on anybody in Westeros, but nobody cares. He is voted to be King for no logical reason. Nobody knows who he is or what he has been through, but Tyrion--who was "on trial," by the way--convinced all the lords of Westeros to make Bran king instead of just declaring independence.

None of this season made since, and the electection scene is one of the biggest offenders.
it mostly bothered me how quickly they all made such a monumental decision

[Reck]

It's amazing that no one in that counsel brought up Jon for King. Tyrion, Sansa, Davos, Brienne all knew Jon was legit but somehow just forgot to even speak for him.

The act is more egregious when Tyrion had just spoken with Jon about being the right guy and Sansa had spoken about putting jon on the Throne before.

And you cant say he has to pay for what he did to Dany (Which at that point was just a tyrant that needed to die anyways) while Tyrion had just committed treason and got rewarded with hand of the king again.

What a hot mess.

[Reck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AYe6Wf_-5k

tbh, :lol

[redzero]

It's amazing that no one in that counsel brought up Jon for King. Tyrion, Sansa, Davos, Brienne all knew Jon was legit but somehow just forgot to even speak for him.

The act is more egregious when Tyrion had just spoken with Jon about being the right guy and Sansa had spoken about putting jon on the Throne before.

And you cant say he has to pay for what he did to Dany (Which at that point was just a tyrant that needed to die anyways) while Tyrion had just committed treason and got rewarded with hand of the king again.

What a hot mess.

Kit Harington was in Seville, where the scene was filmed, by the way. We got ten minutes of Tyrion walking around as filler, but D&D thought having Jon at Tyrion's trial was unimportant in the final episode.

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

:lmao

[Xevious]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

Yeah, that's perfect. It's hard to even laugh at.

[redzero]

D&D thought they could rival Breaking Bad's ending. :rollin

[BD24]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ
:lol

[BD24]

A shame the show ended like this. But it was pretty obvious after the show writers ran out of source material they didn’t know what the fuck to do.

Hopefully fat ass will finish the books at some point so we can get a proper conclusion to all of this

[resistanze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

:lol tbh

[Reck]

A shame the show ended like this. But it was pretty obvious after the show writers ran out of source material they didn’t know what the fuck to do.

Hopefully fat ass will finish the books at some point so we can get a proper conclusion to all of this

They really didn't "run out" of material. They had the story outlined with Dany and the ending. They just thought they could do it in piece meals.

Add to that that Dan and Dave's focus shifted to other projects years ago. I mean this season was so sloppy that they couldn't bother to get coffee cups and water bottles out of camera shots. :lol

It's clear where their minds was at. Cash cow Disney.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

Much funnier when you posted it.

[spurraider21]

Much funnier when you posted it.
:lol my bad didnt see that you had posted

your post was probably censored until just now tbh

[gambit1990]

moving on... BUT this video is really on the mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8U6kjqLkJQ

[redzero]

moving on... BUT this video is really on the mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8U6kjqLkJQ

I want to see the people, who both praised Arya for becoming the deadliest fighter in the world and criticized Sam for becoming Grand Maester in the finale, justify their reactions. This dude is 100% right on why Arya is unlikable.

People should check out his videos on the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies, because those movies are extremely overrated.

[Reck]

Anyone watching the documentary tonight?

I'm not sure I will. Finale really turned me the fuck off on this series.

It will probably be years before I even try to watch the previous seasons. I'll probably treat Game of Thrones like Dexter. Anything past season 4 I won't ever watch.

I have watched Dexter from seasons 1-4 at least 4 times in the past 3 years since it's on Netflix and the show is perfect to watch in the background.

[DJR210]

:lol a whole season dedicated to faceless assassin training and the stupid skill is used once in a mostly irrelevant killing

[Joseph Kony]

:lol a whole season dedicated to faceless assassin training and the stupid skill is used once in a mostly irrelevant killing

7 entire seasons building up to the battle against the dead only for them to go out like a bunch of pussies after their leader gets shanked by a 13 year old :lmao :lmao

[DJR210]

7 entire seasons building up to the battle against the dead only for them to go out like a bunch of pussies after their leader gets shanked by a 13 year old :lmao :lmao

It takes a full season to travel north of the wall and meet the free folk, yet the battle against the dead which took 8 years to build took a mere episode and a 4 foot child to end :lol

Fuck Game of Thrones, and FUCK YOU HBO

I hope the writers/producers/executives are receiving loads of death threats tbh, they deserve every one of them

[Xevious]

This popped up in my youtube feed and I thought it was pretty cool. Though it looks like Dan Weiss was practicing guitar more than writing the damn show.

6i0a7RDPkM8

[Reck]

Damn the shittiness that was season 7 and 8 broke Kit Harrington.

Guy had to check himself into rehab. All that work he put in and D&D shanked him. Smh

[spursfan09]

Poor kit!

[redzero]

7 entire seasons building up to the battle against the dead only for them to go out like a bunch of pussies after their leader gets shanked by a 13 year old :lmao :lmao

Nothing good came from Jon going to Dragonstone. At all.

[aj3292]

Why was the ending so rushed? Was the show supposed to run indefinitely, and then they decided to wrap it up before they knew where to go with it? I'm asking as someone who hasn't watched any of it.

[redzero]

Why was the ending so rushed? Was the show supposed to run indefinitely, and then they decided to wrap it up before they knew where to go with it? I'm asking as someone who hasn't watched any of it.

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore. They wanted to do Star Wars and thought that rushing to GRRM's would satisfy the audience.

[aj3292]

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore. They wanted to do Star Wars and thought that rushing to GRRM's would satisfy the audience.

If that is what motivated them to abandon GoT, that doesn't bode well for their Star Wars project ...

[InRareForm]

Sure it sucks it didn't finish strong but it's entertainment, get over it

[Xevious]

Sure it sucks it didn't finish strong but it's entertainment, get over it
People are pissed because they've invested so much time into it between the books, the show, theory discussion, etc. For a show that started so strong, and still has an unprecedented production value, to end on such a wimper is disappointing. The acting, special effects, music, costume design, etc are absolutely incredible. The only thing wrong is the writing. And when it's obvious as hell that the show runners just wanted the quickest b-line to the end, people get pissed.

[Reck]

People are pissed because they've invested so much time into it between the books, the show, theory discussion, etc. For a show that started so strong, and still has an unprecedented production value, to end on such a wimper is disappointing. The acting, special effects, music, costume design, etc are absolutely incredible. The only thing wrong is the writing. And when it's obvious as hell that the show runners just wanted the quickest b-line to the end, people get pissed.

:lol GOT defenders asking people to eat a shit sandwich and like it. That's just cute.

I poured money and time into this show so I'm gonna whine if that's what I want to do. (Not gonna do that anymore but just saying---if I want to--I could and would.)

[SpursforSix]

I finally watched the whole series from 1-8 over the last couple of weeks. The ending wasn't great but it was better than I was expecting after hearing how bad it was supposed to be.
Maybe it's worse if you have to wait a year to see it. IDK.

But why the fuck did the Night King throw his spear at the flying dragon when he could have just killed Drogon while Dany was sitting on him. Then finish her off as well.

[Xevious]

But why the fuck did the Night King throw his spear at the flying dragon when he could have just killed Drogon while Dany was sitting on him. Then finish her off as well.
Because?