Copa America 2011 thread

[cheguevara]

Lmao Argentina

:lol messi
:lol zaneti
:lol cambiasso
:lol goalkeeper
:lol own goal, goal of the tournament
:lol tattoed Argentina suck ass player. Dude that should have been ejected. Coke snorter

[MmP]

don't mean to beat the dead donkey but this is classical argentina performance. Overhyped in all aspects and never achieveing what thet should.

[Libri]

I don't know about calling Chile a dark horse. Everybody expects them to do well, they're placed alongside Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay as the contenders. But if you go with the most traditional picks of Argentina and Brazil only, I agree: Chile has to be the pick.

Keep an eye on Colombia, they have a great generation of players.

I'm very interested to see what Colombia can do.

[ElNono]

don't mean to beat the dead donkey but this is classical argentina performance. Overhyped in all aspects and never achieveing what thet should.

lol haters gonna hate :lol

[Libri]

Missed the game. :(

What do you all think of the Univision commentators, Pablo and Jesus? Did Pablo do his usual, "Seeeeeee laaaaaaa perdioooooooooo!!" lol

[ElNono]

Missed the game. :(

What do you all think of the Univision commentators, Pablo and Jesus? Did Pablo do his usual, "Seeeeeee laaaaaaa perdioooooooooo!!" lol

Yeah, and Hugo Sanchez was doing the color commentary... he can't help himself and whines just like when he was a player...

[ElNono]

BTW, you can probably catch the game later on YouTube... they're gonna have the press conferences there now

[Libri]

BTW, you can probably catch the game later on YouTube... they're gonna have the press conferences there now

:tu

[ElNono]

At any rate, very disappointing showing. They've been showing a much better game in the games leading to this one, against much more difficult opponents.
They're still a team with no good defenders. Bolivia shot 3 times to goal, scored 1 and almost makes another one. Passing disappeared as soon as Bolivia started pressing.
They better get their asses in gear against Colombia or it's gonna be difficult for them to leave the hotel :lol

[Sense]

I wonder if this game caused riots

[ElNono]

Not this one, but if they don't beat Colombia it's gonna get nasty :lol

[ElNono]

Can't wait to hear Maradona talking shit :lol

[Libri]

Messi was named player of the game.

[ElNono]

Reading the comments section in Arg newspapers, and Batista is getting murdered :lmao

[mystargtr34]

Too many midgets running around for Argentina... they can only score by walking the ball into the goal... they need to play either Higuain or Milito up front to give the team some balance and other options going forward. At least an escape route by playing ball forward to a bigger guy who can hold the ball up with his back to goal.

--------Higuain-------
-Tevez--Kun--Messi--
---Cambo---Mash-----

Dont know about the defense :lol no quality there whatsoever.. that will always be the weak point. Bring back Samuel maybe :lol

[ElNono]

They need Pastore who is a playmaker... and was watching the game from the bench.
Then you pick between Higuain/Milito//Agüero/Tevez to play upfront alongside Messi.

It might not be enough though, because the defense is so weak. If they played Brazil or Uruguay today, they lose 4-0 easily.

[lefty]

Lavezzi and Milito are faggots

[DAF86]

Are you ready for the beatdown tonight Hater? :ihit

Did you enjoy that 1-1 beatdown? There's more where that came from, tbh.

[DAF86]

Tevez is useless in Argentina, I would play Di Maria and Aguero instead of Tevez and Lavezzi.

[ElNono]

You can re-watch the game now in the YouTube channel...

[ALVAREZ6]

don't mean to beat the dead donkey but this is classical argentina performance. Overhyped in all aspects and never achieveing what thet should.

:tu tbh

[ALVAREZ6]

Too many midgets running around for Argentina... they can only score by walking the ball into the goal... they need to play either Higuain or Milito up front to give the team some balance and other options going forward. At least an escape route by playing ball forward to a bigger guy who can hold the ball up with his back to goal.

--------Higuain-------
-Tevez--Kun--Messi--
---Cambo---Mash-----

Dont know about the defense :lol no quality there whatsoever.. that will always be the weak point. Bring back Samuel maybe :lol

I would like to see that formation, allows a big center forward and Kun is simply too good of a player to not start, I'm a huge fan of his game.

[DAF86]

Colombia 1 - Costa Rica 0

[IronMaxipad]

Colombia looked like shit tbh. Wish they were in Mexico's group. :depressed

[ElNono]

I missed the game... didn't miss much looks like

[ogait]

Colombia is not a great team, but they're still dangerous. Give any chance to Falcao and he'll make you pay.
Argentina better bring their A game next match.

[Libri]

Brazil vs Venezuela in half an hour.

[ElNono]

Colombia is not a great team, but they're still dangerous. Give any chance to Falcao and he'll make you pay.
Argentina better bring their A game next match.

Any team is dangerous given Argentina's defense. Even Costa Rica.

[ElNono]

wow robinho... that hairdo :lmao

[Libri]

wow robinho... that hairdo :lmao

:lmao

[Libri]

Danny Alves with a lighter hair color. hehe

[ElNono]

shit, it's not just robinho... :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

robinho with the douche haircut, same with that neymar wanker

seriously why is robinho on the team, dude is a one man team who will never pass it back

[ALVAREZ6]

anyone else's picture quality really shitty most of the time with the youtube stream???? are you guys using youtube or some other random stream?

[ElNono]

I'm watching youtube and it's ok... SD, not HD...

[ElNono]

This is what it looks like here:
http://i53.tinypic.com/1ze8gna.png

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao There was a dog on the pitch. What the fuck??

[MannyIsGod]

Man, that ref is like the one in PES where you never get advantage.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao now no handball. :lmao !!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Hmmm, maybe he was actually right on that non handball. I thought for sure it was a handball the first time I saw it.

[Sense]

Holy shit wtf hair.

[Sense]

There's A LOT of flopping

[MannyIsGod]

Its really hard to like Neymar.

[lefty]

Youtube?


Its not on any U.S tv channel?

[lefty]

Man, that ref is like the one in PES where you never get advantage.

True
Lol

[IronMaxipad]

anyone else's picture quality really shitty most of the time with the youtube stream???? are you guys using youtube or some other random stream?

Univision HD tbh. Shit commentators but great picture quality. fuck it.

[lefty]

For Canadians, its on The Score

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah I'm watching it on Univision. I don't think the commentators are bad.

[IronMaxipad]

Compared to the Televisa and the TV Azteca guys, they're terribad.

[ElNono]

lmao Brazil
lol Neymar

[ElNono]

Venezuela wins 0-0 !!

[Sense]

Wow with these showings... who's going to take the cup? GIO THATS WHO

[ElNono]

lol Gio... he would've been caught banging hoes in Ecuador :lol

[ElNono]

This ECU-PAR game is pretty entertaining... Ecuador playing well

[DAF86]

crofl Brazil

Every fucking team is competitive in CONMEBOL.

[lefty]

Uruguay all the way

[IronMaxipad]

Boring ass games so far, tbh. haven't been impressed with any team. :sleep

[DAF86]

Are you watching the Paraguay-Ecuador game? 'cause it's pretty entertaining IMO, I can't bealive it's still scoreless.

[ElNono]

Another 0-0... Ecuador played better IMO, but Paraguay almost wins it.

[DAF86]

I want to see some goals, wtf.

[ElNono]

:lmao There was a dog on the pitch. What the fuck??

http://bucket.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/50/1399450w346.jpg

:lol

[IronMaxipad]

I want to see some goals, wtf.

The goals will come tomorrow.. Chile 3 Mexico 0. :depressed

[DAF86]

Probable team vs Colombia


Romero

Zabaleta Burdisso Milito Zanetti

Banega Mascherano Cambiasso

Lavezzi Messi Tevez

Only change is Zabaleta for Rojo. I don't like it, we'll have Tevez and Zanetti (two right fotted players) attacking from the left side. It will be difficult to open up the field from that side.

What more does Aguero have to do to start?

[ogait]

Lol, still going with 3 defensive midfielders. Not one to take risks the Argentinian coach is he?

[DAF86]

In Cambiasso and Banega Batista looks for ball control and possesion more than defense.

[ElNono]

lol triple 5...
lol still no playmaker...
lol Pastore and Higuain watching from the bench...

[urunobili]

can someone explain me what's the free legal way of watching Uruguay's match online? I thought that the official copa america channel would show it here in the US...

[NASpurs]

Youtube has been streaming all the matches.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CopaAmerica

[urunobili]

Thanks NA!!! Go Uruguay!!!

[ALVAREZ6]

i think this formation would be best:
4 defenders
Mascherano - Cambiasso
Messi - Aguero - Tevez
- Higuain -

[SAtown]

1-0 Peru

[ElNono]

smh

[Libri]

1-1

[SAtown]

Suarez! 1-1 Uruguay deserved the tie before half

[ElNono]

Peru was already wasting time :lol

[urunobili]

I hate Lodeiro. C.Rodriguez is MUCH better

[ElNono]

:wow Forlan

[ElNono]

URU looks tired

[ElNono]

Another tie... and Uruguay almost loses it at the end there...
We'll see if we finally get a winner in the last game...

[DAF86]

lol Uruguay
lol all the contenders in this tournament

[ElNono]

http://bucket.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/23/1399823w247.jpg

Quality fans, tbh

[urunobili]

Pathetic effort by Uruguay. they played as if they were much better forgetting how much tougher it is to win in the South American level.

Last Copa we started 0-3 vs. Peru and made it to Semi's to lose by penalties vs. Brazil so I'll take this as an upgrade.

[lefty]

lol Uruguay
lol all the contenders in this tournament

Not really surprising

Conmebol is tough competition

Just look back at the '10 WC qualifiers

[ElNono]

:lol Gio is playing???

I had no idea he was going to be there! :lmao

[ElNono]

I thought they were sending all scrubs!

[ElNono]

Wait

[ElNono]

:lol

[Libri]

oh crap

[MB20]

I thought they were sending all scrubs!

The Mexico national soccer team was plunged into crisis just days ahead of the Copa America after eight players were suspended Tuesday over allegations they invited prostitutes to their team hotel.
Team director Hector Gonzalez Inarritu confirmed the players, currently training in Ecuador, had been handed six-month bans for breaching Mexico's code of discipline.

He did not divulge details of their transgressions but reports in the Mexican media alleged the eight were dropped for inviting prostitutes to their Quito hotel.

The eight players -- Israel Jimenez, Nestor Vidrio, Jonathan Dos Santos, Marco Fabian, Jorge Hernandez, Javier Cortes, David Cabrera and Nestor Calderon -- were also fined 50,000 pesos ($4,200) each by the Mexican Soccer Federation.

They had been preparing to leave Ecuador for Argentina to compete in the Copa America, South America's premier international soccer tournament, which kicks off Friday.

According to the reports, the players' alleged antics came to light when members of the Mexican party reported items such as iPads, cell phones and cash had gone missing from their rooms.

When officials checked the hotel's closed circuit television system they saw six women being escorted into the building by a team representative. Reports allege the women were prostitutes.
"They are young and can make mistakes but also must bear the consequences, assuming responsibility," Gonzalez Inarritu said, according to Mexico's El Universal newspaper.

"I also extend an apology to all the fans for this type of events should not occur again."

Mexico's first game of the tournament is July 4 against Chile.

[ElNono]

fun game so far

[ElNono]

lol @ this ref :lol

[ElNono]

Chile can't miss that many goals :lol

[Libri]

Shit, it's all Chile.

[Libri]

:wow:lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

There it is!

[IronMexican]

Nice.

[ElNono]

:lol chapulín colorado

[Sense]

:lol... you didn't know Gio was playing? Shows how much you know tbh..

[ElNono]

:lol... you didn't know Gio was playing? Shows how much you know tbh..

tbh i had no idea :lol

[Sense]

tbh i had no idea :lol

This is probably why I never understood your Gio... and Mexico's Womens NT jokes

[ElNono]

This is probably why I never understood your Gio... and Mexico's Womens NT jokes

This is actually hilarious... he plays with the Mexico scrubs... :lol

[Sense]

This is actually hilarious... he plays with the Mexico scrubs... :lol

I don't see why it would be hilarious... Mexico was hoping there would be a "veteran" in there to at least guide the team to a not so horrible performance we got a few... mediocre ones, and then there's Gio... so far so good no?

[ElNono]

I retract the Women NT jokes, tbh... didn't know he was playing in CA

[ElNono]

I don't see why it would be hilarious... Mexico was hoping there would be a "veteran" in there to at least guide the team to a not so horrible performance we got a few... mediocre ones, and then there's Gio... so far so good no?

Who are the veterans?

[ElNono]

And yes, Mexico is playing a lot better this 2nd half... it was Chile's complete domination in the 1st half, despite the Mexican goal

[ElNono]

1-1

[ElNono]

sorry, I jinxed it :lol

[Sense]

:lol it's fine... that was incredible horrible defense...

[Sense]

I would say.. Michel, Aguilar, Reynoso, and Dos Santos... However..

Michel, Aguilar, and Reynoso are not really NT players... they were the 4 of the 5 called to replace the 5 at the gold Cup..

[ElNono]

I would say.. Michel, Aguilar, Reynoso, and Dos Santos... However..

Michel, Aguilar, and Reynoso are not really NT players... they were the 4 of the 5 called to replace the 5 at the gold Cup..

Thanks, I don't really keep up with the Mexican NT...

And if you haven't figured out yet that I'm pulling your leg bringing up Gio, I can't help you. :lol

[ElNono]

there it is... Chile 2-1

Finally some goals... BTW, that ref is a douche :lol

[Sense]

This is more like it tbh :lol

[Sense]

SMH, I can't be a fan of this team :lol

[ElNono]

tbh, Gio should just make another goal like the one against team USA :lol

[ElNono]

Where's the ref from? He's awful

[Sense]

*sigh* I really wish the real team would be in this cup... It would've been nice to see how we match up with some of these teams.

[Libri]

Where's the ref from? He's awful

Venezuela, 33 years old.

[ElNono]

thanks. that explains him being terrible

[ElNono]

Chile missed like 6 goals this game

[Sense]

Well at least U-17 team advanced :lol

[Sense]

Oh wow... what a joke

[ElNono]

holy shit, that was the tie

[Libri]

Close one by Mex.

[ElNono]

:lol Gio stealing the ball from a teammate

[Sense]

:lol Gio stealing the ball from a teammate

He should tbh... he created both chances there

[ElNono]

Oh well... at least we had 3 goals

[ElNono]

pretty slow start for everybody... we'll see what happens wed

[IronMaxipad]

Hey at least it wasn't 3-0! :lol

tbh why didn't Davila play at all?! Davila, Gio and Pacheco need to play up front if we want to score goals. and that ref was joke.

[IronMaxipad]

Think Mexico's under-17 would've done better tbh.

[ElNono]

lol at barcode Pacheco, tbh

[ElNono]

Hmmm... only two teams that lost so far are CONCACAF?

[IronMaxipad]

Hmmm... only two teams that lost so far are CONCACAF?

No shit son, both teams were only allowed to take their C teams. :lol

[ElNono]

No shit son, both teams were only allowed to take their C teams. :lol

Was Costa Rica more than C rated ever though? :lol
I think last time we played a friendly against them, some of the players were plumbers and shit lol

[IronMaxipad]

Was Costa Rica more than C rated ever though? :lol
I think last time we played a friendly against them, some of the players were plumbers and shit lol

:lol True.

[DAF86]

Wasn't this supossed to be a young Mexico team? Most of these players were 25+ years old. At least that's what the broadcasters said.

[IronMaxipad]

Wasn't this supossed to be a young Mexico team? Most of these players were 25+ years old. At least that's what the broadcasters said.

Under 22 + 5 refuerzos. And the 5 refuerzos they brought are terrible.
This was the first time that team ever played together. No prior friendlies or anything after those 8 players were suspended.

Here's the squad all under 22 except for the 5 and many of them with 0 caps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team#Current_squad

[DAF86]

Did all of the "refuerzos" started?

[IronMaxipad]

Did all of the "refuerzos" started?

Only 4 of them did and one is the Goalie.

[DAF86]

I ask you because when the broacasters anounced the starting line-up they also said the age of every player and I was surprised to see so many 25+ years old players.

[IronMaxipad]

Yeah, it's basically like the Olympics. U23 team plus 3 over the age. Except for copa america they allowed Mex and Costa Rica to bring 5.

[IronMexican]

Glad I listened to OK Computer instead of watching second half.

[Phenomanul]

Not that it matters... but I'm curious to know if FIFA will hold these results against Mexico in their next ranking (or if they get thrown out on account of the restriction applied by one of their own governing bodies; i.e. CONCACAF)...

Oh and the U-17 team + Gio + Michel would have done way better than this squad... I'm really surprised at the ball-control, finesse, game-vision, and speed that the U-17 squad is playing with at the moment...

LOL Paúl Aguilar...
LOL No. 15 (who was that bald guy?.. he sux, and he's slow as molasses)...
LOL Rafa Marquez Lugo...
LOL Carlos Vela... (:wtf :ihit Arsenal)
LOL Jonathan Dos Santos.... errr.. wait n/v :(
and
LOL at other's attempts to discredit Mexican Football in light of the imposed circumstances (non-Mexicans I'm looking at you)... :nope but I guess I should mention the fact that the Mexican League has the most footballers represented in the Copa America tournament right now...

[robino2001]

but I guess I should mention the fact that the Mexican League has the most footballers represented in the Copa America tournament right now...

Only because the entire Mexican roster minus Gio plays there. Remove players who play in their own domestics and Italy and Spain are much higher (near 30 players in CA'11) and Mexico is near the same numbers as those in England (~15 players).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_squads

I'd be interested to hear about the FIFA rankings as well for Mexico. I know the olympics don't count towards the rankings, and that's essentially what this is for Mexico and CR, but I bet they get included anyway. I don't imagine a win v Mexico can count for ____ (Chile or whomever) but not show on Mexico at all.

[Phenomanul]

Only because the entire Mexican roster minus Gio plays there. Remove players who play in their own domestics and Italy and Spain are much higher (near 30 players in CA'11) and Mexico is near the same numbers as those in England (~15 players).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_squads

I'd be interested to hear about the FIFA rankings as well for Mexico. I know the olympics don't count towards the rankings, and that's essentially what this is for Mexico and CR, but I bet they get included anyway. I don't imagine a win v Mexico can count for ____ (Chile or whomever) but not show on Mexico at all.

tbh feeling the need to place those additional qualifers 'comes off' as more 'discrediting'... Mexico's A-team still has players in their domestic league to have kept them up there (as far as league representation is concerned)...

Aldo De Nigris (who will now be headed to Europe)
Ricardo Osorio
Memo Ochoa
Zinha
Gerardo Torrado
Israel Castro
Hector Reynoso
Ludueñas (sp?)
etc...

I don't think anyone in their right mind believes Mexico's C-team is expected to perform anything but poorly against everybody else's A-team (Chile and Uruguay are pretty strong teams)... the surprise would be if Mexico actually won a game in this tournament...

sigh... I'm still pissed Mexico's A-team isn't there... for that matter, I'm also pissed that the USNT turned down the invite.

[Sense]

tbh feeling the need to place those additional qualifers 'comes off' as more 'discrediting'... Mexico's A-team still has players in their domestic league to have kept them up there (as far as league representation is concerned)...

Aldo De Nigris (who will now be headed to Europe)
Ricardo Osorio
Memo Ochoa
Zinha
Gerardo Torrado
Israel Castro
Hector Reynoso
Ludueñas (sp?)
etc...

I don't think anyone in their right mind believes Mexico's C-team is expected to perform anything but poorly against everybody else's A-team (Chile and Uruguay are pretty strong teams)... the surprise would be if Mexico actually won a game in this tournament...

sigh... I'm still pissed Mexico's A-team isn't there... for that matter, I'm also pissed that the USNT turned down the invite.

Memo's gone too..

[ElNono]

tbh, WGAF about FIFA's ranking...

[cheguevara]

tbh, WGAF about FIFA's ranking...

mexicans do. they cannot afford to lose their precious FIFA ranking. a ranking hard earned by playing powerhouses like El Salvador, Belize and Guatemala.

[lefty]

Daaaaaaamn


We're everywhere :lmao:lmao:lmao

http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/07/03/110703101046893615.png

[Phenomanul]

tbh, WGAF about FIFA's ranking...

t'was curiosity alone on how they treat such matters... (no need for the implied condescension...)


mexicans do. they cannot afford to lose their precious FIFA ranking. a ranking hard earned by playing powerhouses like El Salvador, Belize and Guatemala.

:lol

No... I figure Mexico's ranking is somewhere between 9-16th... that's where they've ended up after each of the last 5 World Cups (after climbing out of the group stage in each of those tournaments)...

[DAF86]

Oh and the U-17 team + Gio + Michel would have done way better than this squad... I'm really surprised at the ball-control, finesse, game-vision, and speed that the U-17 squad is playing with at the moment...


No way, you can't compare the level of competition the U-17 is facing with the level of the Copa America. The U-17 squad would have lost by at least 3 goals against Chile, they're still kids, there's too much difference. Bealive me I know from experience.


LOL at other's attempts to discredit Mexican Football in light of the imposed circumstances (non-Mexicans I'm looking at you)...

Who has done that?

[ElNono]

t'was curiosity alone on how they treat such matters... (no need for the implied condescension...)

Just stating my opinion. No need to get butthurt about it. :lol

[urunobili]

Argies will trash Colombia today book it. If not, debacle looming in AFA and Maradona now running for president of it...

[ElNono]

Argies will trash Colombia today book it. If not, debacle looming in AFA and Maradona now running for president of it...

If we don't win, I'm gonna be glad not being in the country, tbh :lol

[DAF86]

Meh, it isn't that big of a deal. Remember that you can also qualify as one of the two best thirds.

[ElNono]

It's going to be difficult to be a best third unless you get a good goal differential, not to mention it would be really pathetic. If we don't get past the first round I would be surprised if Batista's head doesn't roll.

[ElNono]

:wow

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Libri]

Seeeeeeeee laaaaaaaaaa perdioooooooooooooo!! lol

[ogait]

Argentina can count themselves lucky to be even so far.

[ElNono]

we suck... get Pastore in there

[ElNono]

all shitty passing at midfield with no depth

[ElNono]

and lol @ that defense

[urunobili]

Damn this feels like a bad 70's movie...

[ElNono]

Milito should be shot

[ElNono]

And Burdiso gave up a penalty even before the player had a shot

[ogait]

Messi is playing too far behind. Pastore in Messi's place and Messi playing more forward like he does in Barça.

Like this there's always 5 guys around him when he catches the ball, he can't do much.

[ElNono]

Messi is playing too far behind. Pastore in Messi's place and Messi playing more forward like he does in Barça.

Like this there's always 5 guys around him when he catches the ball, he can't do much.

Plus Cambiasso doesn't know how to turn around and attack... he's a defensive midfielder, while Banega just like to carry the ball too much

[ElNono]

There's a complete disconnect between midfield and attack

[ElNono]

Fuck Lavezzi

[ElNono]

You give that to Agüero or Higuan and it's a goal

[ElNono]

this 'defense' is disgusting

[ElNono]

Fml

[ElNono]

lol whistles

[ElNono]

BTW, that play was a penalty... you let the play go, but you have to go back if there's no advantage

[DAF86]

So, so bad.

[ElNono]

lol Batista only change was Zabaleta

smh

[DAF86]

I think Aguero for Lavezzi is the obvious substitution.

But I would also take Milito out and Put Higuain.


Romero

Zabaleta Burdisso Mascherano Zanetti

Banega Cambiasso

Aguero Messi Tevez

Higuain

[ogait]

Been an entertaining first half for the neutral fan like me. Speed, low stoppage time, some chances. Only lacked a goal or two.

But you Argentinians probably close your eyes every time the ball goes to your defense :lol

[DAF86]

Milito must be one of the worst defenders in the World right now.

[ElNono]

Paredes should be at the back instead of Milito... but makes no sense to waste a sub for that now.

Pastore for Lavezzi and Agüero for Tevez... if you want 3 forwards, then do Pastore for Banega, Agüero for Lavezzi and Higuain for Tevez.

[DAF86]

Did you mean Pareja?

[ElNono]

Milito can't even play in Barcelona, and Burdisso is average at best. We really suck on D.

And I don't even want to see that overrated DiMaria ass out there.

[ElNono]

Is it Pareja? I forget.

[ElNono]

Pareja it is.

[ElNono]

wow, no subs? :lol

[ElNono]

But you Argentinians probably close your eyes every time the ball goes to your defense :lol

Since Samuel is gone, pretty much

[ElNono]

can't make 2 passes

[ElNono]

lol Barcelona

[ElNono]

Gago???????? WTF

[Libri]

Aguero in

[ElNono]

:wow that was close

[Libri]

Another close one for Colombia.

[ElNono]

:lmao Milito watching

[ElNono]

shit, we should be down 3-0

[Libri]

another one :wow

[ElNono]

Romero :tu

[ElNono]

Whoever finds the net first, wins

[ElNono]

Banega always tries to do the difficult play

[ElNono]

I have a bad feeling about this game now

[ElNono]

We still have no playmaker out there, and Pastore watches from the bench

[ElNono]

smh

[Libri]

wow, terrible shot by Messi

[ogait]

Messi still needs some free kick lessons.

[ElNono]

Messi is like "Where is Xavi?"

[Libri]

Messi is like "Where is Xavi?"

:lol

[ElNono]

There's no excuse for so much talent and no team play at all... that has to be the coach

[ElNono]

in all honesty, team played better with Diego :wow

[ElNono]

look at that defense :lmao

[ogait]

Lol Burdisso

[ElNono]

lol Gago getting toyed with

[ogait]

Argentina holding on to that precious draw :lol

[ElNono]

fuck fuck fuck

[ElNono]

so bad... we got lucky... should've easily been down 3-0

[resistanze]

LMFArgentina

[ElNono]

People singing for Diego :lol

[ogait]

Well can't believe a game like this ends scoreless.

At least made me some money betting on the draw.

[DAF86]

Bunch of pussies can't handle the pressure of playing at home.

[Libri]

Let's see what the coach says now. :hungry:

[ElNono]

Please, don't drop the pressure card... some of these guys have played in the biggest stadiums and biggest finals...

This team just doesn't know how is supposed to play, period. We have no offense and Batista subs a defensive midfielder for another defensive midfielder.

And don't get me started with the defense.

[IronMaxipad]

Sons can we borrow Messi for our next game? He'd probably do better in Mexico's system tbh.

[DAF86]

I want a coach with some kind of tactical knowledge, fucking Batista thinks that just because he uses the same scheme that Barcelona uses he will play like them. He doesn't show them how they have to move, where to press, where to wait, etc.

[lefty]

Messi, Lavezzi, Zanetti

Those are Italian names



LOL Italy

[DAF86]

Please, don't drop the pressure card... some of these guys have played in the biggest stadiums and biggest finals...

This team just doesn't know how is supposed to play, period. We have no offense and Batista subs a defensive midfielder for another defensive midfielder.

And don't get me started with the defense.

Aguero not beign able to control a simple pass, has nothing to do with tactics. The tactics suck, but the players are playing like scared little bitches.

[ElNono]

We're playing with 3 number 5, and 3 center strikers... its fucking retarded...

[urunobili]

I'm shocked. I mean Colombia is good but this Argentinean team looks lost... Chile or Colombia could ring on this one if tendencies keep going this way.

And not to sound panicked, I think Argentina can still win their group.

[diego]

batista is beyond a disaster, he is a disgrace.
The subs he made tonight were absolutely retarded- it was already bad he essentially went with the same team, but the subs were just outrageously bad. Gago for cambiasso? higuain for banega? horrible. we already knew our D was going to give teams one or two freebies (which colombia miraculously wasted), but this level of offensive ineptitude is pathetic.
Diego was much better than this. Messi is visibly shaken, at least with Maradona he was comfortable even if he didnt score much. The offense looks pathetic, and its our supposed strong suit. we're going to qualify as a best 3rd even though we are in the easiest group :lol :bang

[ElNono]

Aguero not beign able to control a simple pass, has nothing to do with tactics. The tactics suck, but the players are playing like scared little bitches.

Agüero needs the ball inside the area, not dribble through 3 guys. Tevez same thing. We have no playmaker. It's an abomination too because we just dont even play Argentina's style anymore.

And lol @ playing like Barcelona. Batista doesn't even know what Barça is

[ElNono]

Maradona was a horrible coach and he made these same guys play 200x better

[urunobili]

We're playing with 3 number 5, and 3 center strikers... its fucking retarded...

Agreed. I would make Lavezzi take over Banega and Di Maria Cambiasso. Leave el jefecito alone at the 5 is the right choice. Zanetti will always get to midfield to help anyway. :wakeup

[ElNono]

Cue Grondona with "Batista will stay until the next World Cup" :lol

[ElNono]

Agreed. I would make Lavezzi take over Banega and Di Maria Cambiasso. Leave el jefecito alone at the 5 is the right choice. Zanetti will always get to midfield to help anyway. :wakeup

We have no fullbacks... Zanetti can't go up and down anymore. Zabaletta is average and Rojo inexistent. I can't believe we have nobody better to run the wings.

[ElNono]

I can't even remember an Argentina team this inept two games in a row. Maybe during the Bilardo days, but at least back then we had solid defense.

[DAF86]

Romero

Zabaleta Mascherano Pareja Rojo

Banega Cambiasso

Aguero Messi Di Maria

Higuain

That would be my team for the next match, but expect Batista to only change Gago for Cambiasso and Aguero for Lavezzi.

[diego]

batista doesnt even know what his players are good for

[MmP]

Banega is probably the worse midfielder i've ever seen in argentina in 10 years, he tries to dribble and do things ala messi, i can't get why he still gets playing time.

on the game: i just cant believe argentina is stuck in this situation, this is what i was talking about something's lacking in their players. i see their bench and i cant really get it...

[lefty]

Romero

Zabaleta Mascherano Pareja Rojo

Banega Cambiasso

Aguero Messi Di Maria

Higuain

That would be my team for the next match, but expect Batista to only change Gago for Cambiasso and Aguero for Lavezzi.

I'm surprised Batista didnt start Aguerro and Di Maria

He should have gone with an all out offensive lineup, considering the importance of the game

Plus, during friendly international games, Messi and Di Maria had a great chemistry

Batista = dumbass

[MmP]

i really don't think batista is a bad coach, like urunobili said it's amazing seeing this kind of talent lost against poor rivals.

[ElNono]

Romero

Zabaleta Mascherano Pareja Rojo

Banega Cambiasso

Aguero Messi Di Maria

Higuain

That would be my team for the next match, but expect Batista to only change Gago for Cambiasso and Aguero for Lavezzi.

Mostly agree... this would be mine:


Romero

Zabaleta Mascherano Pareja Zanetti

Banega Pastore (Cambiasso or Gago)

Messi

Agüero Higuian

Alternate:


Romero

Zabaleta Mascherano Pareja Rojo

Zanetti (Cambiasso or Gago) Di Maria

Pastore

Messi Higuian

[MmP]

i mean maradona was technically worse and still got to QF, bastista should be a major improvement

[MmP]

PS: Romero is a flat out stud.

[ElNono]

Yeah, I thought Romero was pretty shaky after the World Cup, but he's been amazing in this cup

[diego]

pastore needs to play, that kid is the closest we have to a playmaker and he's not bad at it. he's young too, instead we have cambiasso in there who is not performing and won't be making it to 2014 :bang

[ElNono]

I'm surprised Batista didnt start Aguerro and Di Maria

He should have gone with an all out offensive lineup, considering the importance of the game

Plus, during friendly international games, Messi and Di Maria had a great chemistry

Batista = dumbass

The problem with Di Maria is that for every good play he fucks up five... he's all speed and zero control... and a lousy defender to boot.

[ElNono]

pastore needs to play, that kid is the closest we have to a playmaker and he's not bad at it. he's young too, instead we have cambiasso in there who is not performing and won't be making it to 2014 :bang

lol Gago for Cambiasso

[ElNono]

Press conferences in Youtube now...

[ElNono]

Tevez: "The insults hurt but it's up to us to revert this situation".

lol Tevez go find a new club

[DAF86]

i mean maradona was technically worse and still got to QF, bastista should be a major improvement

We didn't play any southamerican team there, southamericans know how to play us, we southamericans are sly little creatures, we know every trick in the book to even a match when we're not the favourites.

[IronMaxipad]

http://www.hastevezleftyet.com/

[ElNono]

:lol from local newspaper:

Vasco_Rojo (hincha de: Indep´te): No podes poner a Gago (entre otras cosas)...sos un hijo de de un vagon de remil putas

:lmao

[lefty]

The problem with Di Maria is that for every good play he fucks up five... he's all speed and zero control... and a lousy defender to boot.

Well, he does play for Real Madrid........



















:pctoss

[ElNono]

Bielsa ,Bianchi, Pekerman, Russo, Martino, Gareca, Sabella... it's not like there's no coaches out there.