Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

[lmbebo]

At the end of the day I want Parker to stay and Hill gone

considering draft position now. Dumping TP is worthless for those pics.

Unless the team is basically saying we need to dump salary, don't care about receiving maximum worth.

[DesignatedT]

Can it really diminish any worse than Parker for shitty pick + shitty scrub? Any of the deals mentioned here are already worst-case moves.

I agree. A better deal has to arise if the Spurs are serious about trading Tony. No way they take a deal like the ones mentioned,

[ElNono]

Why is it those guys are soft? What's the criteria for that? A guy like Bonner hustles his ass off and tries as hard as he can on every play. He mixes it up. To me, that's the exact opposite of soft. Games aren't won by having a roster of 12 players with 40" verticals.

Games aren't won by just trying hard either.

[lmbebo]

This love for Casspi is troubling. I would think Spurs fans would have learned their lesson with Turkoglu.

Different players...

[objective]

I'll take Salmons over Jefferson. Isn't saying much though.

Me too. If there was a RJ-Hill for Salmons-10 offer, I'd want the Spurs to take it 10 out of 10 times.

10 could be Singleton . . . or a sliding euro . . . or even that low-rent Mike Miller clone the Spurs allegedly like . . .

[joshdaboss]

It's open season on Parker hating. A bad playoff run plus dumb comments = the haters are going to dominate the conversation. Spurs fans with half a brain understand his value.

You'd think that Ginobili getting hurt four years in a row in the playoffs and thus killing the team's chances would have some of the venom aimed at him ... but it just doesn't work that way.

He's valuable to the team, but he's certainly not irreplaceable. Less shots for him, means more shots and a better rhythm for guys like Jefferson, who is a former 20PPG scorer in this league.

And let's not kid ourselves, Ginobili is twice the player that Parker is. It's apparent. He can impact the game in so many more ways than Parker can.

[Mal]

Any Sac deal involving Salmons now for Jefferson is pretty much lateral, aside from contracts. Now it will only make sense if TP is involved. Salmons is basically a little less expensive Jefferson, so trading for him and the 10th with Hill doesn't really make the team better.

I would trade Salmons for RJ straight, but adding Parker for 10th is awful deal.

[NASpurs]

http://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/84003550669193216 (http://twitter.com/#%21/SHowardCooper/status/84003550669193216)

Scott Howard-Cooper


As several Tweeters note, this has to be leading to something else. Tony Parker could still be in the mix.

[BillMc]

It's open season on Parker hating. A bad playoff run plus dumb comments = the haters are going to dominate the conversation. Spurs fans with half a brain understand his value.

You'd think that Ginobili getting hurt four years in a row in the playoffs and thus killing the team's chances would have some of the venom aimed at him ... but it just doesn't work that way.

TIMVP as always is wise. Good to have you back and healthy.:toast

[baseline bum]

Why is it those guys are soft? What's the criteria for that? A guy like Bonner hustles his ass off and tries as hard as he can on every play. He mixes it up. To me, that's the exact opposite of soft. Games aren't won by having a roster of 12 players with 40" verticals.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/demotivators/incompetencedemotivationalposter.jpg

[ElNono]

btw, whose troll is joshdaboss, tbh? :lol

[crc21209]

At the end of the day I want Parker to stay and Hill gone

+1. I'll take Sac's 10th pick and Salmons for Hill and RJ (If they want him).

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Salmons and #10 for TP and RJ? WTH? Suddenly that Casspi trade looks good in comparison.


I've seen some rumors bubble up that it's Casspi, Salmons, and the 10 for TP and RJ.

[Das Texan]

I want the Spurs to make a trade.

I just would prefer it to be something that includes George Hill. If Dick Jefferson so happens to be included in the deal, then thats just a great bonus.

[joshdaboss]

Games aren't won by just trying hard either.

No, but that isn't the point of discussion here. The point is that those guys aren't soft, and soft is completely overused. The only one I think you could argue the jury is out on would be Bargnani, and that's because he hasn't had the opportunity to play on a championship team. I don't blame players for not giving maximum effort on every play, when they play for teams that are in the lottery.

[DesignatedT]

Hill+RJ for Salmons +10 = Yes
Tony +RJ = Kill me

[crc21209]

Hill+RJ for Salmons +10 = Yes
Tony +RJ = Kill me

This sums it ALL up. :tu

[TheProfessor]

btw, whose troll is joshdaboss, tbh? :lol
Whoever uses Texas 2 Step.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I've seen some rumors bubble up that it's Casspi, Salmons, and the 10 for TP and RJ.

Still horrible. I pray this is not true.

[crc21209]

Still horrible. I pray this is not true.

:tu

[MaNu4Tres]

This love for Casspi is troubling. I would think Spurs fans would have learned their lesson with Turkoglu.

Turkoglu got a raw deal from Spurs fans. He was damn good in his early Orlando years. And he was a quality player for the majority of his one season with the Spurs.

Spurs fans fail to realize that sample-size in attempts/opportunity in the playoffs is important to correctly assess a players ability. (Even the "clutch" Robert Horry had several poor series throughout his career, but with adequate opportunity, the man performed really well at times--law of averages theory).

Turkoglu had 3 bad games against the Lakers in 04' (shooting-wise) and all of sudden Spurs fans make him out to be Jud Buechler in terms of skill.

Typical idiotic assessment.

[baseline bum]

I've seen some rumors bubble up that it's Casspi, Salmons, and the 10 for TP and RJ.

Even worse than the initially-reported deal. :pctoss

[timvp]

I've seen some rumors bubble up that it's Casspi, Salmons, and the 10 for TP and RJ.

That'd be pretty brutal.

[ohmwrecker]

Different people...

Yep.

[DesignatedT]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into lottery.
35 seconds ago

[joshdaboss]

btw, whose troll is joshdaboss, tbh? :lol

You're full of cliches, aren't you?

[DesignatedT]

This is getting crazy. Why are we trying to get into the lottery so bad lmao

[ElNono]

No, but that isn't the point of discussion here.

Exactly. Not sure why you brought it up in the first place. Trying hard has nothing to do with being a softie.


The point is that those guys aren't soft, and soft is completely overused

I disagree. They're clear examples of mentally soft guys that get crushed under pressure.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into lottery.

[ElNono]

You're full of cliches, aren't you?

Yes

[NASpurs]

"Sacramento not done dealing. Look for them to deal 10 & salmons for tony Parker and Richard Jefferson"

Can anyone find that on twitter?

[crc21209]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into lottery.

Here we go....

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Even worse than the initially-reported deal. :pctoss

Agreed. Not saying I like it, just reports...

Sad to see Buckets traded, wish we could have gotten in on that if we're dumping Tony...

[NASpurs]

nvm it's here

http://twitter.com/#!/Probballdraft/status/84002998845587456

[joshdaboss]

I disagree. They're clear examples of mentally soft guys that get crushed under pressure.

So you would agree that Tony Parker is soft as well?

[ace3g]

2 min after the Woj post:
MaxSportsSA Maximum Sports
Spurs seem hell bent on getting a higher draft pick, according to a source.

lol

[ducks]

Augustine, Tyrus Thomas for Parker. Since the Bobcats want Tristian Thompson. Whatever. I'm done speculating. I'll see you guys in a week.

do not let the door hit you one the way out since you already wanted to be banned

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

"Sacramento not done dealing. Look for them to deal 10 & salmons for tony Parker and Richard Jefferson"

Can anyone find that on twitter?

http://twitter.com/#!/Probballdraft

[timvp]

This is going to be a long night. Don't the Spurs know I'm supposed to be relaxing :lol

[ElNono]

As we reported earlier, Charlotte wanted to get into position to draft Tristan Thompson. 'Cats have clear shot to get him at No. 7 now.

Wasn't that the guy the Spurs were aiming for?

[DesignatedT]

If SAC is looking at Jimmer at the 10 which I am hearing then that will kill all the Tony to SAC talk.

[crc21209]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into lottery.

Why though? Why THIS lottery? It's the worst fucking draft in 10 years....fuck. :td

[ElNono]

So you would agree that Tony Parker is soft as well?

Not all the time, no.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

SHowardCooper Scott Howard-Cooper
Kings acquisitions were NOT to flip them into a deal with the Spurs, I am told.

[ducks]

evans better be included if tp is

[TheProfessor]

This is getting crazy. Why are we trying to get into the lottery so bad lmao
Still thinking it's Donatas Motiejunas.

[scottspurs]

The spurs have to be afraid of the new possible CBA deal or something. This doesn't make sense. They must know something we don't that has them desperate to shed salary. Hard cap must be on the way.

[DesignatedT]

If SAC pulls off Salmons and the 10 for Tony and RJ they will be royally fucking the Spurs. No way we are that fucking dumb

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

This is going to be a long night. Don't the Spurs know I'm supposed to be relaxing :lol

:lol

[Ditty]

The Spurs really want klay Thompson it seems.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
by HPbasketball
Word among execs is the Bobcats have moved up to 7 to select Bismack Biyombo.

[ogait]

This is getting crazy. Why are we trying to get into the lottery so bad lmao

Only some kind of wonder prospect would be worth any of the proposed trades.

In the end this will probably lead to nothing and this 50 page thread will look pretty silly.

[NASpurs]

Scott Howard-Cooper Kings acquisitions were NOT to flip them into a deal with the Spurs, I am told.

http://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/84005615151751168

[DesignatedT]

Still thinking it's Donatas Motiejunas.
havnt heard that at all

[baseline bum]

Turkoglu got a raw deal from Spurs fans. He was damn good in his early Orlando years. And he was a quality player for the majority of his one season with the Spurs.

Spurs fans fail to realize that sample-size in attempts/opportunity in the playoffs is important to correctly assess a players ability. (Even the "clutch" Robert Horry had several poor series throughout his career, but with adequate opportunity, the man performed really well at times--law of averages theory).

Turkoglu had 3 bad games against the Lakers in 04' (shooting-wise) and all of sudden Spurs fans make him out to be Jud Buechler in terms of skill.smh

Typical moronic assessment.

Turkoglu had 6 horrible games against LA and was the biggest reason the Lakers could pack 4 people in the lane and shut down a red-hot Parker and Duncan. This was a team on a ridiculous winning streak that was completely shut down by one mentally-soft player who Pop coddled. If you replace Turkoglu with Jefferson that team almost certainly gives Detroit a monster of a series in 04, and maybe even takes them out.

[Mugen]

lol @ RJ being the chubby chick that hotter girls try to find dates for....nobodys budging....

[joshdaboss]

evans better be included if tp is

You're a funny guy. I could see them trading LeBron James-lite for a 30-year-old Parker, making 10+ million over the next 3 years.

[Das Texan]

Spurs moving Parker and Dick for the 10 would officially mean that Pop and RC have gone brain dead.

[ElNono]

This is going to be a long night. Don't the Spurs know I'm supposed to be relaxing :lol

I doubt they'll pull the trigger on anything that's being offered. It might just be pretty uneventful tonight.

[NASpurs]

You know when a trade doesn't much sense for a team (Kings), sometimes it's a little fishy and something else might be in the works. Probably.

[baseline bum]

This is going to be a long night. Don't the Spurs know I'm supposed to be relaxing :lol

I told Kori not to let you follow this shit! :lol

[manufan10]

I think I'm setting a personal record on the clicking of the refresh button tbh..

same here

[Das Texan]

Turkoglu had 6 horrible games against LA and was the biggest reason the Lakers could pack 4 people in the lane and shut down a red-hot Parker and Duncan. This was a team on a ridiculous winning streak that was completely shut down by one mentally-soft player who Pop coddled. If you replace Turkoglu with Jefferson that team almost certainly gives Detroit a monster of a series in 04, and maybe even takes them out.

The photos of Turkoglu and his purse summed up his season perfectly.

[gameFACE]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs are still burning up the phone lines, trying to get into lottery.

No one is interested in RJ.....

[crc21209]

KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
by HPbasketball
Word among execs is the Bobcats have moved up to 7 to select Bismack Biyombo.

What the fuck?!? I was reading earlier on Yahoo that Charlotte was eyeing Thompson from Texas and wanted to get a pick before Detroit's 8th to take him....

[NASpurs]

havnt heard that at all

It's in the Think Tank. Yahoo reported early this morning the Spurs really want him.

[baseline bum]

Spurs moving Parker and Dick for the 10 would officially mean that Pop and RC have gone brain dead.

The Scola trade and the Dick contract weren't enough evidence? :lol

[loveforthegame]

What's the deadline again? Not sure I can take much more of this.

[Das Texan]

The Scola trade and the Dick contract weren't enough evidence? :lol



I always assumed those were momentary lapses of judgment. :lol

[crc21209]

Turkoglu had 6 horrible games against LA and was the biggest reason the Lakers could pack 4 people in the lane and shut down a red-hot Parker and Duncan. This was a team on a ridiculous winning streak that was completely shut down by one mentally-soft player who Pop coddled. If you replace Turkoglu with Jefferson that team almost certainly gives Detroit a monster of a series in 04, and maybe even takes them out.

That 04' series made me miss the hell out of SJax. Had SJax just taken the 1st fucking offer the Spurs made him, I believe the Spurs would have repeated that year with him. Instead we were stuck with a mental midget in Turkoglu...fuck.

[joshdaboss]

If the Spurs trade Parker and keep RJ, RJ's value could skyrocket into relation of where it is now, simply because he'll be getting more touches and a better rhythm next year. Then they could trade him at the break, if need be.

[baseline bum]

That 04' series made me miss the hell out of SJax. Had SJax just taken the 1st fucking offer the Spurs made him, I believe the Spurs would have repeated that year with him. Instead we were stuck with a mental midget in Turkoglu...fuck.

That 04 series pisses me off way more than the Dallas loss in 06. That was an all-time great Spurs team. Even though they had a juggernaut waiting for them in Detroit while 06 would have been a guaranteed title had they won game 7, seeing that Spurs team sabotaged by one player was hard to watch.

[timvp]

I told Kori not to let you follow this shit! :lol

Whenever I see a bad trade idea, it reminds me to do my deep breathing exercises. So it's not all bad :lol

[ducks]

rj value might also increase if you trade hill or manu
he might actually shot the fucking ball

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

rj value might also increase if you trade hill or manu
he might actually shot the fucking ball

But he can't shoot, so that's a moot point.

[Das Texan]

Whenever I see a bad trade idea, it reminds me to do my deep breathing exercises. So it's not all bad :lol


You must be getting a lot of deep breathing in today. :hat

[peacemaker885]

Lots of BS in twitter...who is this Donatas Motiejunas????

[baseline bum]

rj value might increase if you shot rj

[MaNu4Tres]

Turkoglu had 6 horrible games against LA and was the biggest reason the Lakers could pack 4 people in the lane and shut down a red-hot Parker and Duncan. This was a team on a ridiculous winning streak that was completely shut down by one mentally-soft player who Pop coddled. If you replace Turkoglu with Jefferson that team almost certainly gives Detroit a monster of a series in 04, and maybe even takes them out.

He had 4 bad games-- but that still doesn't dispel the point I'm trying to make that just because you have one bad series doesn't mean you are forever a choker. Even the best "clutch" role players have had shitty performances throughout a series before-- it's about sample size. Even Robert Horry had terrible playoff performances throughout a series. It's about sample size to correctly assess ones ability to perform in the playoffs. Turkoglu proved that by providing many game winners and great performances for the Magic in the playoffs the following seasons.

[Agloco]

You realize if Manu didn't get hurt in the last game of the regular season(Popobitch should be fired), that we could very well have been hoisting another banner last year?

:lol


We're a better team than the Mavs.

Heh.

[DesignatedT]

It's in the Think Tank. Yahoo reported early this morning the Spurs really want him.

Will Motiejunas play in the NBA next season or does he have a similar situation as Valanciunas?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

rj value might increase if you shot rj

:lol

[NASpurs]

Lots of BS in twitter...who is this Donatas Motiejunas????

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174812

[crc21209]

That 04 series pisses me off way more than the Dallas loss in 06. That was an all-time great Spurs team. Even though they had a juggernaut waiting for them in Detroit while 06 would have been a guaranteed title had they won game 7, seeing that Spurs team sabotaged by one player was hard to watch.

I agree 110%. It sucks ass that the Spurs had 2 chances for back to back titles or even a 3-peat. 03'-04'-05'. Or even 05'-06'-07'. :depressed

[Agloco]

Scott Howard-Cooper Kings acquisitions were NOT to flip them into a deal with the Spurs, I am told.

http://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/84005615151751168

lol..........Salmons 10 vs Casspi 7

Junk........just junk.

[InRareForm]

RT@ ProbballDraft Motiejunas is a target for the #Rockets & #76ers too. #Spurs are also willing to deal George Hill to move up, possibly to #Jazz

[TheProfessor]

rj value might increase if you shot rj
:rollin

[peacemaker885]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174812

Thanks!

[baseline bum]

He had 4 bad games-- but that still doesn't dispel the point I'm trying to make that just because you have one bad series doesn't mean you are forever a choker. Even the best "clutch" role players have had shitty performances throughout a series before-- it's about sample size. Even Robert Horry had terrible playoff performances throughout a series. It's about sample size to correctly assess ones ability to perform in the playoffs. Turkoglu proved that by providing many game winners and great performances for the Magic in the playoffs the following seasons.

Turkoglu was as wide open as a player could be from games 3-6. I doubt he had anyone further away from him in shootaround before game. Phil Jackson deserves props for sticking to his plan when Turkoglu had that one good quarter to begin Game 4 though.

[Das Texan]

rj value might increase if you shot rj


it surely wouldnt hurt any.

[joshdaboss]

rj value might increase if you shot rj

. Rofl

[DesignatedT]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Biyombo has a contractual issue that's come up in Spain and he may not immediately get federation clearance to leave for NBA, source says.


Interesting..

[MaNu4Tres]

Turkoglu was as wide open as a player could be from games 3-6. I doubt he had anyone further away from him in shootaround before game. Phil Jackson deserves props for sticking to his plan when Turkoglu had that one good quarter to begin Game 4 though.

That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

[Rover82]

Whoever the Spurs are targeting in the lottery, my guess is they are using their history in drafting foreign players as a smokescreen to their advantage.

Just my .02

[joshdaboss]

Heh.

Do you disagree? We're 1 year removed from manhandling the Mavs into submission, and we're much better than that team that manhandled them.

[crc21209]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Biyombo has a contractual issue that's come up in Spain and he may not immediately get federation clearance to leave for NBA, source says.


Interesting..

Very interesting. This could scare the hell out of teams for sure....

[NASpurs]

Will Motiejunas play in the NBA next season or does he have a similar situation as Valanciunas?

tbh I'm not sure

[baseline bum]

That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

You don't have time to screw around with mentally soft players when you're trying to win titles right now. Turkoglu cost the Spurs bigtime, and it's not like he had a great playoff reputation from Sacramento either. I give him props for his one good year in Orlando, but what was that? 5 years later?

[MaNu4Tres]

You don't have time to screw around with mentally soft players when you're trying to win titles right now. Turkoglu cost the Spurs bigtime, and it's not like he had a great playoff reputation from Sacramento either. I give him props for his one good year in Orlando, but what was that? 5 years later?

To be fair, the only role player who played worth a shit from games 3-6 was Devin Brown. Tony Parker was more of the culprit for the loss. He was pathetic games 3-6.

[NASpurs]

Lots of pissed off Kings fans. I don't blame them.

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?41742-Kings-trading-pick!/page10

[baseline bum]

To be fair the only role player who played worth a shit from games 3-6 was Devin Brown. Even Tony Parker was lousy.

Of course Parker would be lousy when the other team throws everything they have in the paint. Parker was playing incredible basketball until the Lakers decided to gamble on Hedo not being able to hit a wide-open shot. Just like Duncan couldn't score in 4th quarters in 02 when the Lakers threw everything they had at him, knowing Antonio Daniels, Terry Porter, and so on wouldn't get the job done.

[loveforthegame]

Lots of pissed off Kings fans. I don't blame them.

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?41742-Kings-trading-pick!/page10

I don't blame them either. They scoffed at RJ's contract but took back Salmons who was a failed experiment last time. And they traded down in the draft.

They have to be making another move because this one doesn't make any sense.

[DesignatedT]

Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas

[ElNono]

So, we're not doing shit, right? :lol

[NASpurs]

So I'm guessing the Kings want to trade the Spurs one crappy contract (Salmons) for another crappy contract (Jefferson) to be fair?

[MaNu4Tres]

So it's Hedo's fault that Tony went 4 for 18 in an all important Game 5, which the Spurs lost by 1 point. Yeah you're right I get it.

It's also Sasha's fault, Kobe went 6 for 24 in Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals. Luckily the Lakers were still able to pull out the win.

[Truckules]

They have to be making another move because this one doesn't make any sense.

This.

[MaNu4Tres]

Of course Parker would be lousy when the other team throws everything they have in the paint. Parker was playing incredible basketball until the Lakers decided to gamble on Hedo not being able to hit a wide-open shot.

So it's Hedo's fault that Tony went 4 for 18 in an all important Game 5, which the Spurs lost by 1 point. Yeah you're right I get it.

It's also Sasha's fault, Kobe went 6 for 24 in Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals. Luckily the Lakers were still able to pull out the win.

[crc21209]

Of course Parker would be lousy when the other team throws everything they have in the paint. Parker was playing incredible basketball until the Lakers decided to gamble on Hedo not being able to hit a wide-open shot. Just like Duncan couldn't score in 4th quarters in 02 when the Lakers threw everything they had at him, knowing Antonio Daniels, Terry Porter, and so on wouldn't get the job done.

+10000000. Ever since TD arrived, this hasnt been about him, Tony, or Manu. Because they were always going to get theirs. It was about the role players. When the Spurs had guys like Daniels, Porter, Turkoglu, and now guys like Bonner, Jefferson, etc...they have failed. When they were winning titles it was because of great help from guys like Bowen, Claxton, Horry, Barry, Oberto, etc.

[joshdaboss]

+10000000. Ever since TD arrived, this hasnt been about him, Tony, or Manu. Because they were always going to get theirs. It was about the role players. When the Spurs had guys like Daniels, Porter, Turkoglu, and now guys like Bonner, Jefferson, etc...they have failed. When they were winning titles it was because of great help from guys like Bowen, Claxton, Horry, Barry, Oberto, etc.

Wrong. It was because they had a prime Tim Duncan. No other reason.

[MaNu4Tres]

+10000000. Ever since TD arrived, this hasnt been about him, Tony, or Manu. Because they were always going to get theirs. It was about the role players. When the Spurs had guys like Daniels, Porter, Turkoglu, and now guys like Bonner, Jefferson, etc...they have failed. When they were winning titles it was because of great help from guys like Bowen, Claxton, Horry, Barry, Oberto, etc.

Fact of the matter is, the best shooters in the world shoot 35-40% on average from 3 point line. That means 60-65% of time they will fail to deliver.

When you routinely go deep in the playoffs, your role players won't always come through by hitting those inefficient shots. It's just a fact of reality, there's no way for it to happen every time. That's why you can't put all your judgement on a players ability by just a handful of games or a series. That's not fair and stupid. IMO

[crc21209]

Wrong. It was because they had a prime Tim Duncan. No other reason.

Of course having TD in his prime helped. But TD would have won 1 or 2 or even 3 more titles in 01', 02', 04', etc. if he had better role players than he had in those years....

[InRareForm]

Wish this thread would focus on the topic. lol

[DarkGinobili]

lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Alright, Hedo was a mental midget. Can we get back to Tony Parker talk now?

[crc21209]

:lol I agree. Let's get back to the topic at hand....

[crc21209]

CarmichaelDave

One man's opinion. There is NO WAY John Salmons stays with the Kings. Petrie is working his magic. Stay tuned. #KingsDraft


Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas

[ElNono]

That's why you can't put all your judgement on a players ability by just a handful of games. That's not fair and stupid. IMO

Sure you can. That's what separates the Horry, Manu, Bowen, etc from the Udrih, Turk, Bonner, RJ, etc.

[crc21209]

Sure you can. That's what separates the Horry, Manu, Bowen, etc from the Udrih, Turk, Bonner, RJ, etc.

Bingo.

[rascal]

Spurs are probably saying Valanciunas as a smoke screen for a cockblocker when they probably have someone else in mind. Typical CIA Spurs. :lol

Agree. Why would the Spurs leak out who they are targeting.

[baseline bum]

Wish this thread would focus on the topic. lol

Talking about Hedo sabotaging a Spurs title is a nice distraction (and less painful) than the hype of dumping Parker for absolute crap. :lol

[Gino2882]

Oh this would be awful. As Timvp has already stated you can't really half ass this. If you trade Parker for a draft pick you kill this team as a contender and may as well do a full rebuild.

[ElNono]

Talking about Hedo sabotaging a Spurs title is a nice distraction (and less painful) than the hype of dumping Parker for absolute crap. :lol

CIA baseline :hat

[crc21209]

I don't want the Spurs to trade TP for a fucking guy that they are going to leave overseas. Please don't do it!

[stxspurs]

CarmichaelDave

One man's opinion. There is NO WAY John Salmons stays with the Kings. Petrie is working his magic. Stay tuned. #KingsDraft


Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas

further proof RC and pop are idiots....wtf????\

[ElNono]

How do you match salaries between Tony Parker and a lottery pick? I mean, that's a lot of scrubs you need to throw in there...

[DesignatedT]

spurs sending out epic smokescreens. At the end of the day, Spurs content with 29th pick to take Nikola Mirotic

[DesignatedT]

How do you match salaries between Tony Parker and a lottery pick? I mean, that's a lot of scrubs you need to throw in there...

Unless it's Sacramento ofcourse.

[Agloco]

CarmichaelDave

One man's opinion. There is NO WAY John Salmons stays with the Kings. Petrie is working his magic. Stay tuned. #KingsDraft


Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas

Oh noes........

[ElNono]

spurs sending out epic smokescreens. At the end of the day, Spurs content with 29th pick to take Nikola Mirotic

I hate all the shitty trades proposed and all, but that would be pretty shitty right there too. I actually take as a positive sign that they're frantically trying to dump RJ's contract.

[Rain318]

Ok i might be horribly late but anyone read about Portlands offer?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-20073694-10391697.html

Portland gets tony and 29th pick

Spurs Miller Batum and 21st pick

miller is old as hell but he has proven he can run an offense and we get a great prospect in Batum and a decent pick. Thoughts?

Once i again i apologize if this has already been posted but i didnt want to read to 45 pages of arguing with no facts pertaining to the subject

[TheProfessor]

spurs sending out epic smokescreens. At the end of the day, Spurs content with 29th pick to take Nikola Mirotic
That is what I thought previously, but...it seems the Spurs have started a staggered rebuild. Too much smoke here. Hopefully you're right

[crc21209]

Why can't we be cool like the Lakers and trade Bonner + RJ for Kevin Love or some shit? :lol

[stxspurs]

they cant be that dumb...please no!!! no draft and stash

[ElNono]

Ok i might be horribly late but anyone read about Portlands offer?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-20073694-10391697.html

Portland gets tony and 29th pick

Spurs Miller Batum and 21st pick

miller is old as hell but he has proven he can run an offense and we get a great prospect in Batum and a decent pick. Thoughts?

Once i again i apologize if this has already been posted but i didnt want to read to 45 pages of arguing with no facts pertaining to the subject

Boiled down, Tony for Batum? Kill me now.

[TheProfessor]

they cant be that dumb...please no!!! no draft and stash
I don't think Donatas would be a draft and stash.

[joshdaboss]

To me, of the deals reported, Portland is by far the best.

Parker for the #10 straight up is absolutely horrendous. I'm not a fan of Salmons at all, either. Jefferson is a better player than Salmons ever was. I can only imagine the kind of heat Salmons would be under on this message board if on the Spurs.

[rascal]

"Sacramento not done dealing. Look for them to deal 10 & salmons for tony Parker and Richard Jefferson"

Can anyone find that on twitter?

The trades are getting worse and worse.
Now it's only for Salmons and the #10. :lol

[ElNono]

Biyombo terminated his contract with Fuenlabrada of the Spanish ACB in April, but source says team has sued and court date has been set.

[baseline bum]

CarmichaelDave

One man's opinion. There is NO WAY John Salmons stays with the Kings. Petrie is working his magic. Stay tuned. #KingsDraft


Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Being told by a league source that #Spurs trading Tony Parker for 10th pick is likely to happen. Look for SA to target Donatas Motiejunas

Looks like joshdaboss gets the closest thing to his Bargnani wish. :depressed

[Mr. Body]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Biyombo has a contractual issue that's come up in Spain and he may not immediately get federation clearance to leave for NBA, source says.


Interesting..

Haha. Smells like bullshit to me. Some team's smearing the lens.

[stxspurs]

he doesnt sound very good on DX at least not worth trading parker...hill maybe but no way parker

[NASpurs]

bleacherreport is saying Donatas has a contract for another year in Italy. How accurate is that?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/729066-2011-nba-mock-draft-all-picks-from-the-first-round/entry/93373-2011-nba-mock-draft-who-should-minnesota-draft-with-the-no-20-pick


it would make sense to let him play out the final year of his contract in Italy and then sign him the following year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What if we could get Salmons, Casspi, Garcia, and the #10 for TP and RJ?

/endless speculation

[TheProfessor]

bleacherreport is saying Donatas has a contract for another year in Italy. How accurate is that?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/729066-2011-nba-mock-draft-all-picks-from-the-first-round/entry/93373-2011-nba-mock-draft-who-should-minnesota-draft-with-the-no-20-pick
First I've heard. Yeesh.

[DesignatedT]

Better not be Tony and RJ for Salmons and the 10. Worst trade in NBA history.

[crc21209]

What if we could get Salmons, Casspi, Garcia, and the #10 for TP and RJ?

/endless speculation

In a perfect world, I would trade Hill + RJ for Salmons and Sacramentos 10th or to Utah for a player and their 12th pick.

[lowdown]

All this stuff is bullshit! Parker is not going to be traded for a bag of peanuts. Something else may be going on but it would way wrong to re-sign Tony last year and then turn around and trade him. Besides, this would impact Duncan & Manu's careers 'cause it would be starting over if any of these rumours were true. George Hill, on the other hand? Maybe Mcdyss's contract?

[Mugen]

the only deal i like from Sac is:

10th
Casspi/Salmons
Cousins

for

TP
RJ

ugh, kill me.

[crc21209]

Better not be Tony and RJ for Salmons and the 10. Worst trade in NBA history.

I'm just hoping the Big 3 is still intact by the end of the night....

[MaNu4Tres]

I do not like that Donatas prospect at all. The dude will be a bust in my eyes.

[loveforthegame]

spurs sending out epic smokescreens. At the end of the day, Spurs content with 29th pick to take Nikola Mirotic

I don't want to see the Spurs do some shitty trade just to make moves but something like this would absolutely blow too.

[Vic Petro]

Well maybe John Salmons could become our new Dominique Wilkins and lead the team in scoring while we tank for the #1

[crc21209]

Fuuuuuuuuck 6 pm could not come fast enough...come on already! :lol

[DesignatedT]

Stephen Jackson not happy about going to Milwaukee. Anyway to pry him from them.

[crc21209]

Ric Bucher just reported that Stephen Jackson isnt thrilled with moving again, this time to Milwaukee. So now Milwaukee is going to have to figure out what to do with him....

[lmbebo]

if TP is involved in a deal for #10, its a horrible trade.

GHill is worth a 10 pick in this draft. TP is worth more, MUCH more than a #10 pick.

[crc21209]

Andy Katz reporting that the Kings are looking at drafting Jimmer at No. 10......

[Rain318]

Apparently the Portland deal fell apart when the spurs tried to throw in RJ so i think its out of the question now

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2011/06/23/nba-draft-day-rumors-tony-parker-to-trail-blazers-was-discussed/

[TheProfessor]

I do not like that Donatas prospect at all. The dude will be a bust in my eyes.
It's an enormous risk. And I'm not certain Pop would provide the best environment for him to improve.

[TJastal]

Apparently the Portland deal fell apart when the spurs tried to throw in RJ so i think its out of the question now

http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2011/06/23/nba-draft-day-rumors-tony-parker-to-trail-blazers-was-discussed/

Welcome to about 20 pages ago.

[DesignatedT]

Spurs are probably targeting a prospect who hasn't even been mentioned in this thread.

[ducks]

QUESTION if you replace manu with tp
any of the rumors are worse or better

THOUGHTS?

[NASpurs]

Random but wtf :lmao. I wouldn't put this past Ron Artest.

http://twitter.com/#!/DuranLA/status/84019960598376448 (http://twitter.com/#%21/DuranLA/status/84019960598376448)

Only in LA @LAIreland (http://twitter.com/LAIreland) reports Ron Artest legally changing name to "World Peace"

[DesignatedT]

:lol

[jjktkk]

I know spurs wanna dump RJ but they are blowing some solid deals in the process. The deal with Tor and with Portland would have helped us. Spurs scared to pull the trigger as every year which is why we have 4 rings instead of 6.

Rightttttttttttttt.

[ducks]

rj back to bucks for sj!

[TJastal]

In a perfect world, I would trade Hill + RJ for Salmons and Sacramentos 10th or to Utah for a player and their 12th pick.

Nah, your aim is too low. You need to get the kings to give up Tyreke Evans. And all future 1st round picks until the year 3000. And maybe somehow the heat can throw in Wade as filler.

Now that would be the Perfect world, scrah.. Shoot for the stars.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ric Bucher just reported that Stephen Jackson isnt thrilled with moving again, this time to Milwaukee. So now Milwaukee is going to have to figure out what to do with him....

We need to ask them if they want RJ back.

[rascal]

The odds are higher that ESPN cuts to a commercial right before the Spurs pick than the Spurs making a blockbuster trade.

[it's me]

QUESTION if you replace manu with tp
any of the rumors are worse or better

THOUGHTS?

How do you like the Kings idiot????????? Manu has shit to do with all this ..... don't try to turn a trade rumors thread into Tony Manu thread.

[ducks]

Duh!

[DesignatedT]

RJ and 29th for SJAX. end night.

[ducks]

How do you like the Kings idiot????????? Manu has shit to do with all this ..... don't try to turn a trade rumors thread into Tony Manu thread.

manu hurt 4 straight playoffs
hurts teams chances in playoffs
but no vintage toward manu
just like timvp posted

[ducks]

how do you like the kings idiot????????? Manu has shit to do with all this ..... Don't try to turn a trade rumors thread into tony manu thread.

spurs would be idiots right now unless they get something better like evans

[TJastal]

Oh this would be awful. As Timvp has already stated you can't really half ass this. If you trade Parker for a draft pick you kill this team as a contender and may as well do a full rebuild.

I know, scrah.

What would we do without TP in the lineup? It's never happened before, I just don't know what to think..

[elemento]

The Bucks got and awful deal IMO.

[ace3g]

DA just said that the SA/Kings trade not happening now, got an update during the show

[mexicanjunior]

This is so depressing...Richard Jefferson has killed this team's chances to improve whatsoever with player movement. Another 1 and done in the playoffs...move the effing team to Vegas or something.

[ducks]

I guess kings refused evans

[4lifecowboy]

Mike Taylor just said Richard Jefferson just tweeted he believe he got traded to the Kings.

[TheProfessor]

Thats the Spurs for ya, looks like we will be role out another clunker next season, older, even worse on D. FO drafts well but they suck at making deals.

I give LA and Dall alot of cred for having the balls Buford does not.
Your act is so tired.

[Mugen]

Thats the Spurs for ya, looks like we will be role out another clunker next season, older, even worse on D. FO drafts well but they suck at making deals.

I give LA and Dall alot of cred for having the balls Buford does not.

lot easier to pull deals when money isn't a factor.

[ducks]

Thats the Spurs for ya, looks like we will be role out another clunker next season, older, even worse on D. FO drafts well but they suck at making deals.

I give LA and Dall alot of cred for having the balls Buford does not.

parkers value will be just as good if not better
he will carry a bigger load less manu and duncan

[ducks]

Mike Taylor just said Richard Jefferson just tweeted he believe he got traded to the Kings.

please bucks for sj!

[MannyIsGod]

I gotta admit I'd almost like to see a trade to see the Ducks reaction.

[Duncan2177]

This is so depressing...Richard Jefferson has killed this team's chances to improve whatsoever with player movement. Another 1 and done in the playoffs...move the effing team to Vegas or something.

That's what the stupid spurs FO get for resigning Dick to a ridiculous contract.

[ducks]

Thats the Spurs for ya, looks like we will be role out another clunker next season, older, even worse on D. FO drafts well but they suck at making deals.

I give LA and Dall alot of cred for having the balls Buford does not.

it took more balls to say no
it was a bad deal
also is was took balls to extend rj

[crc21209]

RJ and 29th for SJAX. end night.

I would cry tears of joy if that happened...:lol. I would even throw Hill in there if we had to. TP, Manu, Neal, SJax, and Anderson. Niiice. :tu

[Big Empty]

cheers. no high hopes here. Just hoping we can draft someone that can contribute immediately. This team was good enough for the best record in the leaugue. We arnt dead in the water yet. We just need someone to help Duncan and we'll be fine. There has to be SOMEone out there that can can defend the paint and rebound

[ducks]

I gotta admit I'd almost like to see a trade to see the Ducks reaction.

IF a trade with tp that IMPROVED the team and was a far deal I would be ok with it

NOTHING RUMORED would have been close to = value

[Big Empty]

I would cry tears of joy if that happened...:lol. I would even throw Hill in there if we had to. TP, Manu, Neal, SJax, and Anderson. Niiice. :tu
nice :)

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think Jefferson has a real twitter

[4lifecowboy]

Jefferson has a twitter? I've only had twitter a couple months, but I didn't know that?

I'm just repeating what i heard on the radio. Haven't read any thing to comfirm that.

[Vic Petro]

Not verified so not sure if it's real.

RJeff24 Richard Jefferson
Calling my agent to figure this trade stuff out
24 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[crc21209]

Jefferson has a twitter? I've only had twitter a couple months, but I didn't know that?

I have a feeling it's fake. Here's the link: http://twitter.com/#!/RJeff24

Here's the tweets from "RJ":

RJeff24 Richard Jefferson
Calling my agent to figure this trade stuff out
26 minutes ago

RJeff24 Richard Jefferson
Rumor I'm going to Sacramento? I haven't heard anything yet.
47 minutes ago

[DesignatedT]

I think that's a fake twitter. not sure though.

[Vic Petro]

Not that there is any real info there anyway, but it doesn't seem like a fake twitter account to me. Not even an attempt to be funny or anything...some pretty boring tweets.

[ohmwrecker]

That's a fake twitter account.

[crc21209]

I think that's a fake twitter. not sure though.

Exactly what I thought....

[it's me]

I gotta admit I'd almost like to see a trade to see the Ducks reaction.

[ducks]

A bad deal?? As opposed to what, rolling out the same shit next season. Batum replaced RJ, Hill moves to starting 2, Miller at PG, Manu, Neal off the bench in the backcourt with Anderson and Butler at the SF.

Spurs use the 21st pick on a big and sign a big in FA and you have a better defensive team, with better athletes. Pops talking about getting back to grind it out spurs ball- you better find some defenders first.

look around
how many other posters here said spurs should do the deal with the kings
most said it would be a bad deal

[k_nguyen93]

Spurs = class. Can't be him, none of the other players follow him. Even Neal is verified at this point and he just got one.

RJeff24
"Happy the Griz lost"
http://twitter.com/#!/RJeff24 (http://twitter.com/#%21/RJeff24)

[Seventyniner]

Ducks is right that none of the trades so far would've given anywhere near equal value for Parker, and a #7 or #10 pick in this draft (even if you can dump RJ's contract too) isn't worth breaking up the big 3.

[will_spurs]

That's a fake twitter account.


George_Hill3 George Hill
by RJeff24
Hey Followers just talked to my teammate. He wanted everyone to know that @RJeff24 is not his page it's a fake!!!!!
15 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply

[k_nguyen93]

Damn good memory. I unfollowed George because to be honest he and Dejuan spam too much shit. I prefer Manu's tweets in Spanish to their excessiveness.

[Agloco]

I know spurs wanna dump RJ but they are blowing some solid deals in the process. The deal with Tor and with Portland would have helped us. Spurs scared to pull the trigger as every year which is why we have 4 rings instead of 6.

:rolleyes

[TJastal]

I'm sure joshdaboss will be here shortly to critique Hill's twitter reply.

[ducks]

if sj gets traded again and spurs do not get him I will be ticked!

[ulosturedge]

All this and watch absolutely nothing happens lol.

[Dex]

All this and watch absolutely nothing happens lol.

That is the most likely scenario.

[Duncan2177]

All this and watch absolutely nothing happens lol.

gay

[jimo2305]

All this and watch absolutely nothing happens lol.

i'm starting to think this too lol

[crc21209]

Let the NBA Draft pre-show begin.....

[ulosturedge]

You know us Spurs fans are always fiending for action when it comes to stuff like this. But i'm pretty much in agreement that you don't just toss a proven championship player to get rid of a shitty contract.

[Agloco]

They should Know no one wants him. They overpaid him again, so they are stuck with him, TP has good value. To port for Batum, 21st pick rights to Freeland and Miller.

21st pick should be able to get us a solid player.

What's wrong with people? Seriously?

So good value = Miller, Batum and the 21st in a weak draft?

:rolleyes


A bad deal?? As opposed to what, rolling out the same shit next season. Batum replaced RJ, Hill moves to starting 2, Miller at PG, Manu, Neal off the bench in the backcourt with Anderson and Butler at the SF.

Spurs use the 21st pick on a big and sign a big in FA and you have a better defensive team, with better athletes. Pops talking about getting back to grind it out spurs ball- you better find some defenders first.

Right. :lol

[TJastal]

What's wrong with people? Seriously?

So good value = Miller, Batum and the 21st in a weak draft?

:rolleyes

You are really overrating TP, even by homer standards.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

You are really overrating TP, even by homer standards.

:lolYou do know Miller would probably be waived, don't you?

[timvp]

Let's move here:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181950

Since the draft is starting, this thread has run its course.

[Agloco]

You are really overrating TP, even by homer standards.

:lol

lol Casspi7

GTFO.

[DesignatedT]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Source says Kings deliberating on Jimmer and Kemba, but decision could be made easy since Bobcats like Kemba.

[DesignatedT]

if kemba falls to the spurs ala dejuan blair would you take him

not happening fag.

[ChumpDumper]

hmm... fag when it does u stop swagger jacking meWhat will you do if it doesn't happen?

Learn English?

[baseline bum]

Please Cleveland, take Irving!

[baseline bum]

Crofl

[benefactor]

lol TJastal

[rascal]

What were you & Pop expecting, an all-star? He played great defense every time his number was called, and managed to score some points on the side. That's all the spurs really need him to do. He would have been better than Blair in the starting lineup by a longshot.

It's dumbshits like you that just keep perpetuating the stupid excuses. The classic injury excuse. Next it'll be the lame "Tiago didn't show enough in practices", then for the finale you'll tell us that Pop was smart to give Matt Bonner all his minutes cuz he's just so awesome and stuff.

Splitter is a bust. Weak defensively, his biggest defensive move is taking charges, can't jump, can't protect the rim, is a poor rebounder for his size and has no offensive game outside of 5 feet from the basket. A BUST.

Just another overhyped spur player by this board.

[Bruno]

Another effect of this rumor is that it raises Hill trade value. Spurs being ready to trade their 3 times all star, 3 times NBA champion, NBA final MVP and starter for 10 years to make Hill a starter is a huge trade value boost for Hill.

I won't go as far as saying that Spurs have made up trade rumors around Parker to raise Hill's trade value but Spurs could receive for Hill better offers they have received in the past.

Nice call, dude. :tu

[velik_m]

Nice call, dude. :tu

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/images/pat_on_the_back_1.jpg

[TJastal]

I think Bruno's theory must be very close to the truth.

Spurs want to trade Hill. They send signals that they are to trade Parker (which makes a lot of sense given his current situation--playoffs, mouthing off, extracurricular activities...). The Spurs start to receive some offers for Parker, some of them quite good. In the meanwhile Hill's value goes up. However the Spurs never wanted to trade Parker in the first place, so they add RJ to any Parker deal, knowing nobody will take them up on that offer (and so far, nobody has indeed). Then they let everybody know that since option #1 (trading Parker +RJ) isn't working out, they are open to option #2 (trading Hill), which was actually their option #1 all along, but with which they might manage to gouge some team by pretending they really didn't want to trade Hill.

CIA.

CIA LMAO.

TP homers will go to any length to protect the integrity of their homeboy from France.

I think most GM's around the league are all pretty much aware of George Hill's strengths and weaknesses after accumulating 3 years of game film on him, and could care less that the spurs were parading Parker around like a 10 dollar hooker in front of the entire league.

[TJastal]

Next we'll hearing how the spurs deliberately gave Jefferson that bloated contract last summer as part of this secret CIA plan to trade George Hill.

CIA Pop.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

CIA LMAO.

TP homers will go to any length to protect the integrity of their homeboy from France.

I think most GM's around the league are all pretty much aware of George Hill's strengths and weaknesses after accumulating 3 years of game film on him, and could care less that the spurs were parading Parker around like a 10 dollar hooker in front of the entire league.Dude, they traded Hill.

You were wrong.

[Bruno]

Parke talked a little about these rumors in today's newspaper and I found his answer a little odd.

So, Tony, you will play for San Antonio next year?
Of course, I will. I know that some rumors have been floating about that, but, before that, I've had Pop on the phone who warned me that rumors will be floating and that I should ignore them.

[TJastal]

Dude, they traded Hill.

You were wrong.

So? Bird would have given the spurs the 17th pick for Hill regardless of whether or not the poodle was being shopped around or not.

LMAO @ spurs fans thinking Larry Bird gives a rats ass what the spurs FO does.

[Buddy Holly]

So? Bird would have given the spurs the 17th pick for Hill regardless of whether or not the poodle was being shopped around or not.

LMAO @ spurs fans thinking Larry Bird gives a rats ass what the spurs FO does.

17th pick?

LMAO at your being too focused on Hill's junk to even get the draft pick number right. :lol

[pancakechef]

It was a good deal for both parties. As much as I loved Hill at first he wasnt getting much better. Both Leonard and Hill are risks.

The fact still remains that Parker wouldnt bring in much more than that.

[vander]

Spurs still need to shop TP.

Like I said last summer, and the summer before, spurs ain't winning any more championships built around the Big 3. should have traded Manu and TP when they were still worth something, now it's more about dumping salary, manu's only got 2 more years, might as well eat that contract and keep the rabid manu fanbase. but TP should still be moved for cheaper younger guy(s) or picks

[DPG21920]

There were many rumors floating around about Hill being traded, so it's not a huge surprise. When you stepped back and looked at the rumors plus reality, it made sense that if someone was to be traded, it was Hill.

[TJastal]

There were many rumors floating around about Hill being traded, so it's not a huge surprise. When you stepped back and looked at the rumors plus reality, it made sense that if someone was to be traded, it was Hill.

Of course it makes sense. Pop always chooses the safe route. He's perfectly happy sticking all his money into the .04% interest checking account and raving about the twelve dollars he made at the end of the year.

On those rare occassions he's feeling a bit ballsy that day (probably after a few glasses of wine) he'll go out on a limb and take a "calculated" risk, which
usually just means playing a slightly different version of the safe route, and which almost always backfires. Pop is and always has been a spineless, nutless pussy.

[ducks]

Parke talked a little about these rumors in today's newspaper and I found his answer a little odd.

So, Tony, you will play for San Antonio next year?
Of course, I will. I know that some rumors have been floating about that, but, before that, I've had Pop on the phone who warned me that rumors will be floating and that I should ignore them.

duh anyone with a brain new it

[4lifecowboy]

Parke talked a little about these rumors in today's newspaper and I found his answer a little odd.

So, Tony, you will play for San Antonio next year?
Of course, I will. I know that some rumors have been floating about that, but, before that, I've had Pop on the phone who warned me that rumors will be floating and that I should ignore them.

These are the kind of bone head things he say to the media that gets his ass in trouble. WTF would you broadcast what was said to you in private thru the media, that does nothing but lessen the Spurs ability to use this tactic in future trades. Thats what rubs me wrong with him, this is classic of him putting his "feelings" before the good of the team. Just STF up dude!