General Free Agent Signings/Trades

[mountainballer]

a CP3 to the Clippers trade might be the best chance for the Spurs to get Kaman, if they trow in their 1st rounder 2012.
(ignoring all guys who will quickly claim Kaman isn't worth that pick, while they bash the FO for doing nothing)
Kaman isn't of much value for the Horntes as long as they have Okafor. but they will need his contract number in the deal, now that they payed Jordan and have little cap space left.

[objective]

Spurs can't take on Kaman's salary without Jefferson's bloated number, but there's no way I could picture the Hornets willing take on that mess when they're being primed for a sale.

[Bruno]

Kaman isn't a realistic target. He has a $12.7M and a 15% trade kicker. numbers just don't work for Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

Kaman isn't a realistic target. He has a $12.7M and a 15% trade kicker. numbers just don't work for Spurs.

It's a pretty sure bet that when Kaman goes somewhere, the Spurs will be blamed for not "doing anything" to get him.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Kaman isn't a realistic target. He has a $12.7M and a 15% trade kicker. numbers just don't work for Spurs.

Kaman is not realistic, however, if this trade goes through then Okafor would be. Don't think the Spurs would be willing to invest so much money on him, though, even if they're able to prepare some sort of a package around Dice's contract.

[baseline bum]

Kaman isn't a realistic target. He has a $12.7M and a 15% trade kicker. numbers just don't work for Spurs.

Excellent; Kaman sucks.

[Redshadows]

Kaman isn't a realistic target. He has a $12.7M and a 15% trade kicker. numbers just don't work for Spurs.
I thought the Spurs should try to get Paul Millsap.
While Jazz has Favors, they might want a transaction like Millsap for Dice + Blair + pick/Joseph.

[therealtruth]

Good, McRoberts will not hurt the Spurs as Mayo often did in the last years ... Grizzlies will look a little different this year.

Yeah but they get Rudy Gay back.

[jesterbobman]

Less Mayo = More Tony Allen. That's a good thing for the Grizzlies.

[Fireball]

Yeah but they get Rudy Gay back.

I already posted several times that Gays return might lead to some interesting dynamics on offense for the Grizzlies ... less pounding the ball in the inside I guess, which is a good thing for the Spurs when they play them ...

[Mel_13]

Sources close to situation say J.J. Barea's four-year deal with Timberwolves, first reported by @daldridgetnt, is valued at $19 million

http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

[timvp]

Another PG for the Timberwolves? That ish isn't even funny now.

[dougp]

Another PG for the Timberwolves? That ish isn't even funny now.

Is JJ setting himself up to be a career backup or something? The Timberpups already have their #1 pick PG, why would they start JJ over him?

[SenorSpur]

Sources close to situation say J.J. Barea's four-year deal with Timberwolves, first reported by @daldridgetnt, is valued at $19 million

http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

The annual question, with the Timberwolves, comes up again - What the fuck is GM David Kahn doing?

[Redshadows]

The annual question, with the Timberwolves, comes up again - What the fuck is GM David Kahn doing?
What Kahn would do is always unguessable.:lol

[Mel_13]

The annual question, with the Timberwolves, comes up again - What the fuck is GM David Kahn doing?

And how long will Minny's owner pay him for doing it?

[Mr. Body]

Owners during the lockout: "WE NEED TO CONTROL SPENDING WE NEED TO CHANGE ALL THE RULES TO CONTROL SPENDING IT'S OUT OF CONTROL"

Owners after lockout: Spending like drunken fucking sailors.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Dallas is trying to move Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer to create more cap space, league sources tell Y!Would gladly accept either.

[cd98]

Corey Brewer is an idiot. He could have signed with a bunch of teams that wanted him and got significant playing time. Instead, he signed with the Mavs who only wanted him to keep him away from other teams. Now they want to dump him. They should be forced to live with each other.

Rudy Fernandez sucks and he has a bad back. No thanks.

[Fireball]

Corey Brewer ... maybe

Rudy Fernandez wants to play in Europe anyways ... pass

[SenorSpur]

Corey Brewer is an idiot. He could have signed with a bunch of teams that wanted him and got significant playing time. Instead, he signed with the Mavs who only wanted him to keep him away from other teams. Now they want to dump him. They should be forced to live with each other.

Rudy Fernandez sucks and he has a bad back. No thanks.

:tu

This is clearly another example of Cuban simply making trades and acquiring players, not to necessarily improve his team, but as some sort of a human chess match, where he attempts to trump the competition.

And yes, Brewer is a dumb-ass. He didn't get to play much when he got to Dallas. Sure he got a ring, as a non-contributor, but now he's being used as a pawn. I wonder how if he regrets not coming to S.A. now?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:tu

This is clearly another example of Cuban simply making trades and acquiring players, not to necessarily improve his team, but as some sort of a human chess match, where he attempts to trump the competition.

And yes, Brewer is a dumb-ass. He didn't get to play much when he got to Dallas. Sure he got a ring, as a non-contributor, but now he's being used as a pawn. I wonder how if he regrets not coming to S.A. now?

If anything, it almost felt like at the time Cuban snatched up Brewer just so the Spurs wouldn't. With all their depth at the SF spot, I wouldn't be surprised if he barely gets any time this season as well.

[tdunk21]

@WojYahooNBA
Adrian Wojnarowski
Dallas is trying to move Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer to create more cap space, league sources tell Y!

have not checked the salaries, but RJ and dice's contract for corey and rudy? is it possible

[tuncaboylu]

have not checked the salaries, but RJ and dice's contract for corey and rudy? is it possible

They're trying to create cap space, you're offering them RJ. Cuban would laugh it. :lol

[tuncaboylu]

I thought the Spurs should try to get Paul Millsap.
While Jazz has Favors, they might want a transaction like Millsap for Dice + Blair + pick/Joseph.

Why would they accept 2 PFs instead of Millsap?

[SenorSpur]

have not checked the salaries, but RJ and dice's contract for corey and rudy? is it possible

Cuban aint doing any deals with the Spurs?

[tp2021]

have not checked the salaries, but RJ and dice's contract for corey and rudy? is it possible

RJ isn't even needed according to the magical trade machine

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6ojutjh

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/146288217132511232
@WojYahooNBA
Adrian Wojnarowski
The Pacers have decided to amnesty James Posey and his $6.9 million contract, league sources tell Y! Sports.
3 minutes ago via web

[mexicanjunior]

Hopefully that means the Pacers are clearing the way for Josh Howard. I wouldn't want Posey either, he has been done since 2009.

[Mel_13]

Hopefully that means the Pacers are clearing the way for Josh Howard. I wouldn't want Posey either, he has been done since 2009.

More likely to keep them under the cap so that they can bid on a guy like Billups who has been waived using the amnesty.

[Spurs Brazil]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent forward Reggie Williams still talking to several teams, including Charlotte, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Toronto, sources say.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

oh God thank you. spurs not talking to Reggie Williams.

[GSH]

I'm reading the headlines:

Mavs acquire Lamar Odom
Spurs make offer to Josh Howard

The same... but different.

[loveforthegame]

The Kings have enough small forwards. Not sure why they're talking to Williams.

[024]

spurs should go after posey. if they throw a few million towards his way, it will be worth the risk. a posey/howard SF rotation would be like doubling down and i think the spurs should do it. if that fails, they always have kawhi to fall back on.

[elec99]

How does the bidding process work? For ex, if you bid 1 mil, and someone else does 1.1, can you come back at 1.2, etc? Or is it a blind auction. This will be interesting to see how it works.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Believe it's a blind auction.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The Kings have enough small forwards. Not sure why they're talking to Williams.

Words been spreading about possibly using the amnesty on Salmons and signing Williams.

[timtonymanu]

What's the word on John Salmons play as off late? I know a lot of Spurs fans here (myself included) wanted him back in 2009.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What's the word on John Salmons play as off late? I know a lot of Spurs fans here (myself included) wanted him back in 2009.

Not sure either, but if Sacramento is praying they ship him out I doubt he'll be of any use here.

[ace3g]

Cavs resign Anthony Parker for a 1 year deal

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/parker_111212.html

Celtics Sign Pavlovic

http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/press121211-celtics-sign-pavlovic.html

sam_amick Sam Amick
Fourth-year forward DeMarre Carroll will sign a one-year, minimum deal with Denver, according to his agent Mark Bartelstein.

[Dunc n Dave]

Rip Hamilton was bought out by the Pistons and waived also. He might be a decent fit for the Spurs. Better defender than RJ and much more confident offensively....

[Buddy Holly]

Rip Hamilton was bought out by the Pistons and waived also. He might be a decent fit for the Spurs. Better defender than RJ and much more confident offensively....

Rip's a two guard. Not needed.

[Dex]

Rip Hamilton was bought out by the Pistons and waived also. He might be a decent fit for the Spurs. Better defender than RJ and much more confident offensively....

No thanks. Not only is Hamilton already one the downslope, but the Spurs already have a logjam at the SG position. Manu will take the majority if minutes, and the rest will go to Neal and Anderson. Unless the Spurs plan to unload either of those in a trade, no reason to add another 2.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Rip Hamilton was bought out by the Pistons and waived also. He might be a decent fit for the Spurs. Better defender than RJ and much more confident offensively....

Expected to sign with Chicago.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Hamilton's going to the Bulls. Nailed on.

[PDXSpursFan]

Also, Hamilton is a 2, not a 3.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Chauncey Billups has been claimed by an NBA team off amnesty waiver -- but it isn't the Nets, league source tells Y! Sports.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Clippers placed a bid on Chauncey Billups, league source tells Y! Sports.

johnhollinger John Hollinger
Also could have amnestied Kaman. This is going to be real interesting to see how they did this.
28 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Marc Stein
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Every team in the league just received notification that Clippers have registered winning waiver bid for Chauncey Billups
1 minute ago

John Hollinger
johnhollinger John Hollinger
WoW! Had to either decline matching Jordan or amnesty Mo Williams. RT @WojYahooNBA Clippers placed bid on Billups, league source says

[TimmehC]

:lol Clippers

WTF are they doing?

[mudyez]

I dont get it!

[edgar]

:lol Clippers

WTF are they doing?

What's wrong with them placing a bid and winning? What's your beef with them.

[mudyez]

What's wrong with them placing a bid and winning? What's your beef with them.

have to guess, that it wasnt as cheap, with all the Orlando chatter as of late.

D12 will be pissed :)

[mudyez]

will be intersting to see, if B-B-B-Billups is really showing up in LA.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Clippers have matched Golden State's offer sheet for DeAndre Jordan, league source tells Y! Sports.

[Spurs Brazil]

Adrian Wojnarowski: The Clippers matched Golden State's 4 year, $43M-plus offer sheet that includes a trade kicker, source tells Y! Sports.

[024]

is the bidding over? i can't believe the clippers would make this move (well actually i can). billups already expressed his discontent and obviously wants to go to the heat. they should revive the CP3 trade talks and push it through. this move is so dumb, what are the clippers going to do with an aging vet PG? first round exit?

[Wombatzu]

is the bidding over? i can't believe the clippers would make this move (well actually i can). billups already expressed his discontent and obviously wants to go to the heat. they should revive the CP3 trade talks and push it through. this move is so dumb, what are the clippers going to do with an aging vet PG? first round exit?

They're getting a proven, veteran point guard at a fraction of his salary and counting on the probability that he will put his big boy pants on, remember he is a professional, and do his job.

[024]

They're getting a proven, veteran point guard at a fraction of his salary and counting on the probability that he will put his big boy pants on, remember he is a professional, and do his job.
i have no doubt that billups will play through this but the clippers don't need billups, they need CP3. this move signals that the trade is essentially dead if the clippers are looking for a replacement. having both cp3 and billups doesn't make sense. they still have mo williams to get rid of too. cp3 would be a move for the future. a CP3/blake/butler/jordan core can easily accomplish the same things as billups/blake/butler/gordon and would provide a better future as well.

[jjktkk]

i have no doubt that billups will play through this but the clippers don't need billups, they need CP3. this move signals that the trade is essentially dead if the clippers are looking for a replacement. having both cp3 and billups doesn't make sense. they still have mo williams to get rid of too. cp3 would be a move for the future. a CP3/blake/butler/jordan core can easily accomplish the same things as billups/blake/butler/gordon and would provide a better future as well.

Did you see what NO wanted form the Clips? Asking price was way too steep, so the Clips smartly got out of the cp3 trade.

[024]

Did you see what NO wanted form the Clips? Asking price was way too steep, so the Clips smartly got out of the cp3 trade.
if that deal was successful, the clippers would have cp3/random SG/butler/griffin/jordan as their starting five. amnesty williams, slap on some solid bench players and this team could easily be a legitimate contender. bledsoe and aminu weren't much anyways and probably would be on the first plane out as soon as they hit the FA. the first pick wouldn't matter as much because the clippers would be loaded already (as opposed to their constant state of rebuilding). so it really just comes down to gordon. some reports say that gordon was included, some say that he wasn't. but gordon shouldn't make or break the deal, the clippers would be set with or without him.

[ace3g]

Per Marc Gasol's twitter:


I'm proud to say that we have reached a tentative agreement with my team @memgrizz , can't wait to get on the court with all my teammates!

[baseline bum]

i have no doubt that billups will play through this but the clippers don't need billups, they need CP3. this move signals that the trade is essentially dead if the clippers are looking for a replacement. having both cp3 and billups doesn't make sense. they still have mo williams to get rid of too. cp3 would be a move for the future. a CP3/blake/butler/jordan core can easily accomplish the same things as billups/blake/butler/gordon and would provide a better future as well.

This doesn't take them out of the CP3 sweepstakes in the slightest. Billups is a great insurance option in case Stern doesn't back off of his demand for Gordon. If the bid is less than $8.5 million per season then they also open up more cap room for Paul/Howard next season by signing him and amnestying Williams.

[Mel_13]

This doesn't take them out of the CP3 sweepstakes in the slightest. Billups is a great insurance option in case Stern doesn't back off of his demand for Gordon. If the bid is less than $8.5 million per season then they also open up more cap room for Paul/Howard next season by signing him and amnestying Williams.

Bid was 3.5M for the one season remaining on Chauncey's contract.

[TD 21]

Bid was 3.5M for the one season remaining on Chauncey's contract.

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein

Source with knowledge of deal tells ESPN that Clippers' winning bid in waiver auction for Chauncey Billups was just over $2 million

[Mel_13]

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein

Source with knowledge of deal tells ESPN that Clippers' winning bid in waiver auction for Chauncey Billups was just over $2 million

I had read that is was 3.5M, but Stein is reliable.

Edit: I had read 3.5M on an earlier Stein tweet.

[Mel_13]

Clippers have more PGs than Minny and still trying to get Paul.

[024]

This doesn't take them out of the CP3 sweepstakes in the slightest. Billups is a great insurance option in case Stern doesn't back off of his demand for Gordon. If the bid is less than $8.5 million per season then they also open up more cap room for Paul/Howard next season by signing him and amnestying Williams.
hm, this is true as i just read the talks have restarted. although, i don't know how happy billups will be if cp3 ends up in LA. the clippers would be in the most excellent shape if they can manage the trade without including gordon or the minny pick.

[024]

Clippers have more PGs than Minny and still trying to get Paul.
bledsoe will be included in the deal, williams will be amnestied/traded away, and gordon is not a PG. this would be a ridiculous deal if the clippers somehow managed to pull in paul. cp3 with billups backing him up plus griffin and jordan manning the frontcourt? holy crap.

[Mel_13]

bledsoe will be included in the deal, williams will be amnestied/traded away, and gordon is not a PG. this would be a ridiculous deal if the clippers somehow managed to pull in paul. cp3 with billups backing him up plus griffin and jordan manning the frontcourt? holy crap.

It was just an observation, and I was counting Foye not Gordon.

[TD 21]

Clippers have more PGs than Minny and still trying to get Paul.

I think them claiming Billups means they're ready to relent on Bledsoe. Adding Bledsoe and even a second 1st to the Timberwolves 1st, Kaman and Aminu package, should be a no brainer for the Clippers. As long as the end game is keeping Gordon and adding Paul to Griffin, Gordon, Jordan, Butler and Billups, it'll be worth it.

That core would probably instantly vault them to sixth best in the West, with the potential to rise higher. And as long as Paul's knee holds up, a Griffin, Paul, Gordon, Jordan core, would rival any core in the league long term.

[Mel_13]

I think them claiming Billups means they're ready to relent on Bledsoe. Adding Bledsoe and even a second 1st to the Timberwolves 1st, Kaman and Aminu package, should be a no brainer for the Clippers. As long as the end game is keeping Gordon and adding Paul to Griffin, Jordan, Butler and Billups, it'll be worth it.

I'd agree with all that. Now just need Stern to accept a deal that doesn't include Gordon.

[TD 21]

I'd agree with all that. Now just need Stern to accept a deal that doesn't include Gordon.

I think he will. It's basic negotiating. Start off asking for the sun, the moon and the stars. Then give back the stars (Gordon) and pretend as if you compromised. When really, the deal you were angling for all along was the sun and the moon (Timberwolves 1st, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and maybe a future Clippers 1st).

This would be a much better package for the Hornets than the one they accepted. Especially if they trade Kaman for more young assets and the league hands them the 1st pick and a second top five pick (not that they wouldn't be in the running anyway).

[Nathan89]

Silly me... I thought the Spurs were going to do something when the 9th came around.

[RodNIc91]

What about Mareese Speights? I heard today through a tweet he may be available. Im starting to get depressed about not signing anyone above 6-10 with at realistic shot to help our frontline.

[Russo21]

Yeah gimme corey brewer and mareese speights and the offseason wont be a total fail

[Fireball]

Grizzlies keep Gasol ... 58 millions in 4 years ... good for him

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/12/12/gasol-grizzlies.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Kwame Brown has agreed to a 1 year deal with Warriors, source tells Y!

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Earl Clark wants to re-sign with the Magic, but the Dwight Howard drama has held things up. Clark also has an offer from the Nuggets.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Shawne Williams is weighing offers from the New York Knicks, New Jersey Nets and Miami Heat, according to sources close to the situation.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Ronnie Price will officially sign with the Suns later today. It's a one-year deal.

[Mel_13]

Kwame Brown signs for $7 million with GSW - he made just over a mil last season and hasn't made $7 in 4 years. Desperate times.

http://twitter.com/TasMelas

Latest sign that this is a ridiculously overpriced market.

[loveforthegame]

Definitely overpaid for Kwame but that's what happens when you're desperate for help up front. Still like the addition though.

What are the Suns doing collecting all those guards?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Kwame Brown signs for $7 million with GSW - he made just over a mil last season and hasn't made $7 in 4 years. Desperate times.

http://twitter.com/TasMelas

Latest sign that this is a ridiculously overpriced market.

Any chance that this signing opens up a trade possibility for Andris Biedrins... Bad contract for bad contract -Jefferson for Biedrins?

[Redshadows]

Where is Troy Murphy right now?

[timvp]

$7 million for Kwame Brown?

The Warriors throw $7 million worth of cap space down the toilet for a below average backup center? How do they not at least wait to see what else could become available?

Mother of got . . .

[The_Worlds_finest]

$7 million for Kwame Brown?

The Warriors throw $7 million worth of cap space down the toilet for a below average backup center? How do they not at least wait to see what else could become available?

Mother of got . . .

Looks like the players can call the owners greedy anymore

[Seventyniner]

Kwame makes RJ look like a bargain.

[ace3g]

MikeWellsNBA Mike Wells
Memphis has decided not to trade guard OJ Mayo, according to sources
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Retweeted by WojYahooNBA

[Fireball]

Shit ... I thought we would get rid of this little pest in the division ...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Shouldn't be surprise, but Pop says Spurs probably not done making roster moves.


JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Pop also had good things to say about Kawhi Leonard. Says he's even more explosive than expected.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Monroe_SA Mike Monroe
Per #RealCoachPop It's still too early in camp to know potential role for #McDyess, still not in camp.

[DesignatedT]

Who was the person who first reported the amnesty of RJ. Was this purely speculation or what.

[ChumpDumper]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Shouldn't be surprise, but Pop says Spurs probably not done making roster moves. Ask him when they're going to start, Jeff.

[ElNono]

Ask him when they're going to start, Jeff.

:lol

[ElNono]

Free Agency ending will probably prevent them from making more moves... :sleep

[DarkGinobili]

Ask him when they're going to start, Jeff.


:lol

[tdunk21]

Ask him when they're going to start, Jeff.

this

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ask him when they're going to start, Jeff.

:lmao:lmao

[NASpurs]

"Roster moves" can mean just about anything, typical CIA Pop. It's more than likely not the roster moves that we as fans want but just some scrub signings/practice bodies.

[Fireball]

Roster move = Kawhi Leonard moves from SF to PF

[Nathan89]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Pop also had good things to say about Kawhi Leonard. Says he's even more explosive than expected.

:tu

Pop will give him limited minutes for his first 66 games instead of the normal 82 games.

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
F Josh McRoberts to sign two-year deal using mini mid-level exception with @lakers, source tells Y! Avg 7.2 pts, 6.2 rbs w/Indy last season.

[tdunk21]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
F Josh McRoberts to sign two-year deal using mini mid-level exception with @lakers, source tells Y! Avg 7.2 pts, 6.2 rbs w/Indy last season.

:bang

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
F Josh McRoberts to sign two-year deal using mini mid-level exception with @lakers, source tells Y! Avg 7.2 pts, 6.2 rbs w/Indy last season.

Good signing by LA. More security for when they throw Gasol and Bynum at Orlando for Howard.

[Obstructed_View]

Jeff would get yelled at. He reports what he's told like a good boy.

[TimmehC]

Son of a bitch. Lakers got a halfway decent Odom replacement for the mini-mid... we got nothing.

[timvp]

2 year, $6 million for McRoberts is a pretty fair deal.

Still wondering how Bonner was able con $14 million out of the Spurs the last time he was a free agent.

[Mark in Austin]

2 year, $6 million for McRoberts is a pretty fair deal.



after hearing kwame's deal this one is a hell of a bargain...

[objective]

McRoberts and his deal are an absolute steal.

I don't normally bash the Spurs when there are FAs they don't get, but this time they are going to wish they had McRoberts. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered if the Spurs tried for him because of the appeal of LA (no media reports that they did, but maybe behind the scenes they tried).

But if it would have taken an amnesty on RJ to get the full MLE to do it, they should have. He's not that great, but he is a hustle machine with legit range who has improved every year in the pros, this guy was facing off against Mahinmi in the D-League finals if I remember right.

Kwame Brown now is making 7 for a year. The Celtics gave Chris Wilcox a one year 3 million deal with their entire mini-MLE. McRoberts is prime value compared to Wilcox.

[024]

reports of josh howard meeting with the jazz. spurs might even strike out with howard..

[Seventyniner]

Downstairs someone said that the Clippers will have to amnesty either Mo Williams or Kaman to have enough space to match DeAndre Jordan's contract. Obviously Kaman becomes a target if he's amnestied (perhaps the Spurs amnesty RJ and offer Kaman the full $5M midlevel), but what about Mo? LLE? He'd be a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford.

[DesignatedT]

reports of josh howard meeting with the jazz. spurs might even strike out with howard..

Hard to say when we don't know what either team is offering. Utah could have a better offer on the table and from what the Spurs reportedly offered Caron, they didn't really strike out with him either. They had no chance.

[024]

Downstairs someone said that the Clippers will have to amnesty either Mo Williams or Kaman to have enough space to match DeAndre Jordan's contract. Obviously Kaman becomes a target if he's amnestied (perhaps the Spurs amnesty RJ and offer Kaman the full $5M midlevel), but what about Mo? LLE? He'd be a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford.
i think only teams under the cap can bid on amnestied players.

[tdunk21]

Downstairs someone said that the Clippers will have to amnesty either Mo Williams or Kaman to have enough space to match DeAndre Jordan's contract. Obviously Kaman becomes a target if he's amnestied (perhaps the Spurs amnesty RJ and offer Kaman the full $5M midlevel), but what about Mo? LLE? He'd be a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford.

IMO even if kaman is amnestied, teams with capspace have to pass on him so that he can become a UFA and then only we can claim him

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Downstairs someone said that the Clippers will have to amnesty either Mo Williams or Kaman to have enough space to match DeAndre Jordan's contract. Obviously Kaman becomes a target if he's amnestied (perhaps the Spurs amnesty RJ and offer Kaman the full $5M midlevel), but what about Mo? LLE? He'd be a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford.

Mo Williams was already amnestied.

[SenorSpur]

McRoberts and his deal are an absolute steal.

I don't normally bash the Spurs when there are FAs they don't get, but this time they are going to wish they had McRoberts. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered if the Spurs tried for him because of the appeal of LA (no media reports that they did, but maybe behind the scenes they tried).

But if it would have taken an amnesty on RJ to get the full MLE to do it, they should have. He's not that great, but he is a hustle machine with legit range who has improved every year in the pros, this guy was facing off against Mahinmi in the D-League finals if I remember right.

Kwame Brown now is making 7 for a year. The Celtics gave Chris Wilcox a one year 3 million deal with their entire mini-MLE. McRoberts is prime value compared to Wilcox.

This sucks! This was a guy that the Spurs should've gone after - someone who could've helped bolster their awful frontline. Meanwhile, they're still screwing around with the Josh Howard's of the world.

[objective]

to be fair, I've seen Pacer forum posters writing that Memphis offered McRoberts more than LA and that he just chose LA for whatever reason (minutes, fame, etc).\

It might not have made any difference if the Spurs tried hard to get him. But it's nice to dream about a guy who could play with both Duncan and Splitter and spread the floor some.

[SenorSpur]

to be fair, I've seen Pacer forum posters writing that Memphis offered McRoberts more than LA and that he just chose LA for whatever reason (minutes, fame, etc).\

It might not have made any difference if the Spurs tried hard to get him. But it's nice to dream about a guy who could play with both Duncan and Splitter and spread the floor some.

I should've known. I had heard Memphis was after him too. I didn't know that he deliberately chose L.A.

[underdawg]

This sucks! This was a guy that the Spurs should've gone after - someone who could've helped bolster their awful frontline. Meanwhile, they're still screwing around with the Josh Howard's of the world.

Spurs are trying to get character guys and Josh Howard fits that description.

[Mr. Body]

A lot of greybeards here thought McRoberts didn't even deserve a 2nd round draft pick.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Done deal: Mavs agree to send Rudy F and Brewer to Denver for future second-rounder, according to sources with knowledge of trade

[Robz4000]

Wow. Really Dallas? What a waste.

[timvp]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Done deal: Mavs agree to send Rudy F and Brewer to Denver for future second-rounder, according to sources with knowledge of trade

And there goes more money that can't be used to claim RJ.

smh

[Dex]

We might as well just face facts.

RJ will be back.

[Mel_13]

We might as well just face facts.

RJ will be back.

Moving through the stages to acceptance. Probably good for our mental health.

[Seventyniner]

Wow. Really Dallas? What a waste.

Not really. They're going to get two more trade exceptions out of the deal (or is it one big one?), so they can turn around and absorb another contract or two like Odom that nobody wants.

[Robz4000]

Not really. They're going to get two more trade exceptions out of the deal (or is it one big one?), so they can turn around and absorb another contract or two like Odom that nobody wants.
Ah. Heard nothing about trade exceptions, just that they got the both of them for a second-round pick. Still, Denver got a real steal.

[Dex]

I wonder if playing 170 total minutes for Dallas is what Corey Brewer was hoping for when he signed there.

Then again, he got a ring (or will when Cuban stops dragging his ass), so I'm sure he isn't bitching.

[timvp]

Lawal claims Spurs’ interest
By Our Reporter 49 minutes ago

Nigeria Olympic team star Raheem Lawal has told MTNFootball.com he has received several offers including one from English Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/football-golf-boxing/29628-lawal-claims-spurs%E2%80%99-interest.html

Ha.

[Mel_13]

Gary Forbes will play with Toronto Raptors the season 2011-12. Denver Nuggets didn't match the offer made by Toronto.

http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket

[Brazil]

Ha.

not a bad signing for the spurs

[Spurs Brazil]

Chris Palmer: Hornets announced Marco Belinelli has accepted the team’s qualifying offer.

[Zarko's Ghost]

NBA TV says Rip Hamilton was waived by Pistons.

[Big P]

Really?

[underdawg]

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Nene and Nuggets reach terms on five-year, $67 million deal

[tdunk21]

ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Nene and Nuggets reach terms on five-year, $67 million deal

and bonuses for staying with denver.....wow

[ElNono]

Moving through the stages to acceptance. Probably good for our mental health.

Not really. I'm ready to flip out as soon as I see him on TV... objective I think was who said just seeing him and Ginger out there becomes a drag, and I completely agree.

[CGD]

I really thought Nene was out of Denver...

[jesterbobman]

I think that's acceptable. Not a max contract(He's not a max player) but super efficient as a scorer. After some reports of 4 year 60 million offers, 67 over 5 is good. I think paying a extra 2 million a year for Nene over DeAndre Jordan is good value.

[objective]

Isn't Carl Landry a free agent?

He rebounds at a Bonner-ish level, so bad news there.

But he's out there.

[objective]

Not really. I'm ready to flip out as soon as I see him on TV... objective I think was who said just seeing him and Ginger out there becomes a drag, and I completely agree.

true, that was me.

Seeing them on the floor just drains the enjoyment for me out of the Spurs.

They are wretched on the court, and the Spurs win in spite of them, not because of them.

[mountainballer]

Isn't Carl Landry a free agent?

He rebounds at a Bonner-ish level, so bad news there.

But he's out there.

our best option, if Spurs are willing to spend MLE.
but with West out of town he might take the vacant starting spot in NO and likely more money.
don't know why he's rebounding numbers are that bad. he doesn't look as if he didn't know how to rebound and for sure it's not a lack of toughness. with the Rockets he did at least decent at the boards.
playing alongside Okafor and Ariza might have further hit his already subpar number tough.

[benefactor]

Agreed...but I doubt they do anything like that. Getting the MLE means getting rid of RJ...and it seems like they only way they are willing to do that is if they have another vet SF lined up.

[SenorSpur]

I really thought Nene was out of Denver...

Nene spouted some big threats because he felt the organization "disrespected" him by not offering an extension before the end of the regular season. It turns out the new contract was all the respect he needed, after all - no matter when it came.

[Mel_13]

I really thought Nene was out of Denver...

Never believe a professional athlete when he says it's not about the money. It's always about the money.

[Mel_13]

Not really. I'm ready to flip out as soon as I see him on TV... objective I think was who said just seeing him and Ginger out there becomes a drag, and I completely agree.

You're not planning to give up watching the Spurs, are you?

[SenorSpur]

Never believe a professional athlete when he says it's not about the money. It's always about the money.

It's the equivalent of the dreaded "vote of confidence" for head coaches. Whenever an owner or GM gives an embattled coach the "vote of confidence", it loosely means he's outta there.

[tdunk21]

thoughts on ryan hollins?

[Ocotillo]

Pretty soon there will be calls for Javtokas. :depressed

I'm a Sankidze man myself. :lol

[Mel_13]

thoughts on ryan hollins?

Not a FA, exercised his player option for this season.

[Spurs Brazil]

Aron Phillips: Dime Exclusive: 16-Year NBA Veteran Theo Ratliff To Retire http://bit.ly/vzmbWp about 1 hour ago

[timvp]

Congrats to Ratliff on a really good career :tu

[portnoy1]

Pretty soon there will be calls for Javtokas. :depressed

I'm a Sankidze man myself. :lol
Had actually been calling for him the last few years. I have no problem seeing that #15 on the court as opposed to the one we see today.

[portnoy1]

Downstairs someone said that the Clippers will have to amnesty either Mo Williams or Kaman to have enough space to match DeAndre Jordan's contract. Obviously Kaman becomes a target if he's amnestied (perhaps the Spurs amnesty RJ and offer Kaman the full $5M midlevel), but what about Mo? LLE? He'd be a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford.
MO Will is just another shooting pg with even worse court vision than TP IMO. He does have a better jumpshot and he has the MO FLO (his version of TP's floater)

[8FOR!3]

Had actually been calling for him the last few years. I have no problem seeing that #15 on the court as opposed to the one we see today.

Let's be real, Matt Bonner would school (skool, whatever it is in Greece) Roberto Yodadick.

[DesignatedT]

If the Clippers did in fact amnesty Kaman, how would claiming him work. If we amnesty RJ that would put us under the cap correct? So could we claim him for more than the MLE when Kaman hits waivers or is the MLE/4 years the max we could offer still?

[portnoy1]

Let's be real, Matt Bonner would school (skool, whatever it is in Greece) Roberto Yodadick.
I was chillin' yesterday watching an old spurs game I recorded. It was them playing the Raptors in the 04-05 season, and all of a sudden during the second quarter chris bosh went out with a few fouls and there he was "The Red Rocket" running around getting abused by Tim and Rasho. And I thought to myself, if I could tell myself then that in 5-6 yrs the Spurs rely heavily on this guy. Just looking at him knowing he was a significant part of tearing down what this franchise was all about.

[therealtruth]

MO Will is just another shooting pg with even worse court vision than TP IMO. He does have a better jumpshot and he has the MO FLO (his version of TP's floater)

Mo has a much better jump shot and better court vision.

[mountainballer]

If the Clippers did in fact amnesty Kaman, how would claiming him work. If we amnesty RJ that would put us under the cap correct? So could we claim him for more than the MLE when Kaman hits waivers or is the MLE/4 years the max we could offer still?

no, waiving RJ puts the Spurs under the tax threshold, but not under the cap.
Spurs can't bid.
somone would claim him, just like it happened with Billups.

but it would be very strange if they did it. they need his contract for trades, if CP3 didn't work, they will likely try something else.

[DesignatedT]

no, waiving RJ puts the Spurs under the tax threshold, but not under the cap.
Spurs can't bid.
somone would claim him, just like it happened with Billups.

but it would be very strange if they did it. they need his contract for trades, if CP3 didn't work, they will likely try something else.

Ahh gotcha. Thanks.

[montgod]

FINALLY.... CP3 traded to Clipps

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources say NBA approval to be issued by night's end to seal CP3 and 2 future 2nd-rounders to Clips for Gordon/Kaman/Aminu/Sota first


Now it will be interesting to see what Hornets do with Kaman and what Clips do w/their 4 pgs. I am sure Minnesota would be interested haha.

[Spurs Brazil]

Clippers Reach Agreement For Chris Paul
Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST

The Clippers and Hornets have reached an agreement on Chris Paul.

Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and Minnesota's first round pick in 2012 will be sent to the Hornets.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217534/Clippers_Reach_Agreement_For_Chris_Paul#ixzz1gYhWF Vhy

[Maddog]

Clippers Reach Agreement For Chris Paul
Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST

The Clippers and Hornets have reached an agreement on Chris Paul.

Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and Minnesota's first round pick in 2012 will be sent to the Hornets.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217534/Clippers_Reach_Agreement_For_Chris_Paul#ixzz1gYhWF Vhy

Not too bad for NO- esp that Minnesota pick might be good.
Now maybe the Spurs can pry Kaman or Okafor from the Hornets with their
incredible desirable trade assets ....

[TD 21]

This is a home run for the Hornets. Arguably the best young SG in the league, an excellent draft pick that will look even better once the league makes sure either Davis or Drummond end up there, a quality SF prospect and another quality asset in Kaman, that can easily be traded for more good young assets.

For the Clippers, they shouldn't have given up Gordon. Should have thrown in Bledsoe, their own future 1st and not taken either 2nd back, if it took that to keep Gordon out of it. The league may have been playing hardball, but that still would have been better than anything else any other team offered. I figured when they claimed Billups that Gordon was going to be included in the trade though.

You can debate the order, but this trade and the Nuggets moves yesterday probably seals the eight playoff spots in the West: Thunder, Spurs, Mavs, Lakers, Grizzlies, Clippers, Nuggets, Trail Blazers.

[objective]

Pretty soon there will be calls for Javtokas. :depressed

I'm a Sankidze man myself. :lol

Sanikidze was an Italian League all-star last year and all-defensive team.

This year he's 11th in scoring and 2nd in rebounding, 14.2 and 10.2.

He's also attempting 4.3 3-pointers a game and knocking them down at 41% (13th in the league) and shooting 50.5% from the field in total.

I don't understand how he's regarded like he's Sergei Karaulov around here, but I'm not surprised.

[Mel_13]

Cavaliers have waived Baron Davis via NBA's new amnesty clause.

http://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO

[Duncan2177]

Pop says Spurs probably not done making roster moves. :downspin:

[timvp]

As RJ sits at PF Changs gaining even more weight and lowering his value even more.

[8FOR!3]

Pop says Spurs probably not done making roster moves. :downspin:

Yeah I heard there were a few more 6'4 shooting guards available...

[Big P]

This is a home run for the Hornets. Arguably the best young SG in the league, an excellent draft pick that will look even better once the league makes sure either Davis or Drummond end up there, a quality SF prospect and another quality asset in Kaman, that can easily be traded for more good young assets.

For the Clippers, they shouldn't have given up Gordon. Should have thrown in Bledsoe, their own future 1st and not taken either 2nd back, if it took that to keep Gordon out of it. The league may have been playing hardball, but that still would have been better than anything else any other team offered. I figured when they claimed Billups that Gordon was going to be included in the trade though.

You can debate the order, but this trade and the Nuggets moves yesterday probably seals the eight playoff spots in the West: Thunder, Spurs, Mavs, Lakers, Grizzlies, Clippers, Nuggets, Trail Blazers.

Word is he won't extend with the Hornets, so it's gonna be a wait and see type trade to see if it really was a good trade for NO.

[baseline bum]

now it will be interesting to see what hornets do with kaman and what clips do w/their 4 pgs. I am sure minnesota would be interested haha.

rofl

[024]

all the clippers really gave up in value was gordon. gordon is good but a lot of players can score 22 points on the clippers. especially when davis was perennially injured and really no other decent players were manning the wing. we'll see what gordon turns into later but now his skill is probably the same as kevin martin. but lol if gordon turns around and signs with the clippers after his rookie contract expires.

[Mel_13]

Nets are engaged in serious talks with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league source told SI

http://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nets are engaged in serious talks with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league source told SI

http://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI

:pctoss:

[slick'81]

Alan Hahn of Newsday reported Wednesday that there is mutual interest between the Knicks and recently waived Baron Davis.

Davis will need to clear waivers to land in their lap, but Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal just tweeted that his injury is "legit and severe." Davis' agent confirmed the report and said he would be out "several weeks." Temper your expectations for Davis and don't worry him impacting the rotation wherever he lands, at least in the near future.



Source: Jason Lloyd on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#%21/JasonLloydABJ/statuses/147128855071690753)

[underdawg]

Steve Novak (http://twitter.com/stevenovak20): Just landed in San Antonio! Great to be back! 1 minute ago

[timtonymanu]

It was all smokescreen.

Steve Novak will be our new starting SF!

[objective]

Novak > Bonner

Please RC and Pop, package Bonner with McDyess for anything (like a Landry S&T) and get Bonner off this team for good this time.

[Ditty]

Bonner trade coming?:stirpot:

:depressed

[Ice009]

If this means Bonner trade is coming then I have never been more excited to see Steve Novak lol.

[loveforthegame]

I prefer Novak to Bonner. It would be nice if this was a sign that Bonner was on the way out but I fear it's not.

[024]

sigh.. it's sad that i get excited from this.

[Bruno]

I guess Novak will be the third string PF. Will Spurs give him a guaranteed contract or will they let him fight with Lawal for that spot?

I hope Spurs will add another center to the roster. Pop won't play Duncna too much minutes and Splitter is a little injury prone. To avoid extending period of time with a Blair/Bonner frontcourt, Spurs need at least a 3rd string center

[venitian navigator]

I guess Novak will be the third string PF. Will Spurs give him a guaranteed contract or will they let him fight with Lawal for that spot?

I hope Spurs will add another center to the roster. Pop won't play Duncna too much minutes and Splitter is a little injury prone. To avoid extending period of time with a Blair/Bonner frontcourt, Spurs need at least a 3rd string center

You're right, but the point is who is available via free agency or trade with Dice contract...
Via free agency of the "reachble" ones, one could be Elson (and could be the right choice 'cause he already knows how we play), one other could be Evans (but is more a not so high pf than a center), one other could be Murphy (not so good defender)...

Via Dice contract, I don't see a lot available....maybe Houston would trade Thabeet contract.

Any idea ?

[benefactor]

I guess Novak will be the third string PF. Will Spurs give him a guaranteed contract or will they let him fight with Lawal for that spot?

I hope Spurs will add another center to the roster. Pop won't play Duncna too much minutes and Splitter is a little injury prone. To avoid extending period of time with a Blair/Bonner frontcourt, Spurs need at least a 3rd string center
It doesn't make any sense that that they haven't gone after anyone. They were so hung up on look for a SF that they forgot that one of their major rotation bigs is also going to be departing. Replacing Dice should have been just as much of a priority...if not a bigger one because they have some players already that can fill the void at SF. PF/C? Not so much.

[Obstructed_View]

And Richard Jefferson screws the team up once again, as they spend so much time trying to figure a way out from under his contract that they completely miss theplayers they should have been targeting and have to settle for last year's scraps.

Either that or Pop wanted last year's front line again because he wants to shoot as many threes as possible. Just because it's a failed strategy doesn't mean he thinks it's wrong.

[Mel_13]

It doesn't make any sense that that they haven't gone after anyone. They were so hung up on look for a SF that they forgot that one of their major rotation bigs is also going to be departing. Replacing Dice should have been just as much of a priority...if not a bigger one because they have some players already that can fill the void at SF. PF/C? Not so much.


And Richard Jefferson screws the team up once again, as they spend so much time trying to figure a way out from under his contract that they completely miss theplayers they should have been targeting and have to settle for last year's scraps.

Either that or Pop wanted last year's front line again because he wants to shoot as many threes as possible. Just because it's a failed strategy doesn't mean he thinks it's wrong.


You both should know better.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Earl Clark has agreed to a two-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how come troy murphy was never on our radar?

[ace3g]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Hornets and Landry opt for a ONE-year deal on Carl Landry. One year for $9 million, according to sources with knowledge of deal


AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The New York Knicks will zero in on Maurice Evans, according to source close to the situation. They're offering $2.5 million room exception.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As @FisolaNYDN reports, Shawne Williams agrees to Nets offer. Now, Nets trying to close deal with free agent Andrei Kirilenko, sources say.

[spursince#99]

I see our team shaping like the OKC Thunder. We have our Leard who will be our defensive specialist but since we know how to build our team with a big man thats what we lack. We'll gain a dominate power forward in the draft & James Anderson will be the scorer e need. We'll draft another speedster like Tony Parker. Splitter will be a defensive twin tower with our power forwards. Its more about the future.forte

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol sperms stayin put as usual

[ace3g]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Nets sign forward Ime Udoka, team announces

that was a close one...

[tdunk21]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Nets sign forward Ime Udoka, team announces

that was a close one...

:toast

[benefactor]

You both should know better.
I know. I keep saying the same shit every year expecting a different result. Kinda like taking to heart the "Pop's going in with an open mind" remark.

[SenorSpur]

It doesn't make any sense that that they haven't gone after anyone. They were so hung up on look for a SF that they forgot that one of their major rotation bigs is also going to be departing. Replacing Dice should have been just as much of a priority...if not a bigger one because they have some players already that can fill the void at SF. PF/C? Not so much.

Amen. The PF/C position SHOULD have been the priority here. Unless there is some mysterious trade on the table, which I find highly doubtful, there's really no one left to be had.

The mere fact that Pop and RC were chasing the veritable assortment of SF dujours, leave no doubt that becoming better in the paint and on the glass, was not the priority.

[tmtcsc]

Congratulations Dallas. Looks like a real winner of a signing.

http://www.woai.com/media/lib/12/3/d/b/3dbe0e96-a99b-445b-835a-f9662b4b0360/FeatureImage.jpg

[ace3g]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
If New York, as @alanhahn notes, is making a play for Michael Redd, it's a good move. I think whoever gets Redd has a potential steal.

[tmtcsc]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
If New York, as @alanhahn notes, is making a play for Michael Redd, it's a good move. I think whoever gets Redd has a potential steal.

I noticed he was available and couldn't help wondering why his name hadn't been brought up much. Did his play fall off that badly ?

[tdunk21]

I noticed he was available and couldn't help wondering why his name hadn't been brought up much. Did his play fall off that badly ?

he is injured most of the time so i guess teams are playing safe...

[benefactor]

Of what's left, I think the Spurs should give Kyrylo Fesenko a call. He'd be cheap and though he's not that skilled, he's young and he's huge. From what I've read he plays with a lot of effort and moves pretty well for a guy his size.

[crc21209]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
If New York, as @alanhahn notes, is making a play for Michael Redd, it's a good move. I think whoever gets Redd has a potential steal.

Michael Redd huh? I totally forgot about that guy, I wonder if he has anything left....

[tdunk21]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
Jamal Crawford has chosen Portland Trail Blazers as reported by Sports Illustrated

[ace3g]

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source says forward Jeff Adrien has terminated his contract with Treviso and will sign a two-year deal with Houston.

[spursince#99]

Ehhh...we might as well start looking at draft prospects fore the upcoming draft

[Obstructed_View]

You both should know better.

Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment. I'm still holding out hope that Ja, Cowhigh and Splitter will total 50 minutes of playing time, or that Bonner will have fewer minutes than all of them in game one.

[robot89]

http://twitter.com/NYDNInterNets (http://twitter.com/#%21/NYDNInterNets) Stefan Bondy



Avery announces Travis Outlaw was amnestied.

[Duncan2177]

Please get Outlaw.

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Golden State Warriors have signed Dominic McGuire, according to press release.

[benefactor]

Please get Outlaw.
You have to be under the cap to bid.

[Seventyniner]

You have to be under the cap to bid.

Any chance nobody takes him and he becomes a FA?

[8FOR!3]

Not sure if you're serious. He's not the scorer, rebounder, or defender RJ is. As a matter of fact, the only thing he has on RJ is 2 inches and we all know RJ would probably like that...

[DesignatedT]

Not sure if you're serious. He's not the scorer, rebounder, or defender RJ is. As a matter of fact, the only thing he has on RJ is 2 inches and we all know RJ would probably like that...

lol

[benefactor]

Any chance nobody takes him and he becomes a FA?
Very doubtful. Someone will take a flier on him for cheap.

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Craig Smith has signed with the Portland Trail Blazers, source confirms.

[Mel_13]

With the urging of @CP3 & Chauncey, Clips want to add physical bigs. Keep eye on Antonio McDyess, Reggie Evans, Joel Pryzbilla & DJ Mbenga.

http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

[Mel_13]

Maurice Evans has agreed to a deal with the Washington Wizards, according to sources close to the situation.

http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

[yavozerb]

With the urging of @CP3 & Chauncey, Clips want to add physical bigs. Keep eye on Antonio McDyess, Reggie Evans, Joel Pryzbilla & DJ Mbenga.

http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

Didnt realy understand why Mcdyess was mentioned in this..

[Fireball]

Well, Pryzbilla stated he will not play this season ... and MBenga really should stay away from basketball ... its too ugly to watch

[mountainballer]

Didnt realy understand why Mcdyess was mentioned in this..

why not. they think it's not impossible that Dice will be a FA soon.
maybe he doesn't retire, if Clippers offer him another year and the chance to play with that team?

[elec99]

Well, we have steve novak now. Truth is I always thought he was a decent shooter. Compared to bonner, their 3pt percentage is similar but bonner gets more minutes, and well they both suck at D. But if you were cash strapped novak has some appeal.

Well, its only a matter of time before we sign ime udoka.

[Splits]

Well, we have steve novak now. Truth is I always thought he was a decent shooter. Compared to bonner, their 3pt percentage is similar but bonner gets more minutes, and well they both suck at D. But if you were cash strapped novak has some appeal.

Well, its only a matter of time before we sign ime udoka.

http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-jersey-nets/2011/12/15/2638716/ime-udoka-new-jersey-nets-nba-free-agency


Ime Udoka Signs With New Jersey Nets

Well, it isn’t Dwight Howard — or even Nene — but the New Jersey Nets did announce the addition of a front-court player on Thursday. The team has signed journeyman Ime Udoka, according to an announcement from general manager Bill King.

[jermaine]

So that means they don't want Jefferson back. I don't really give two shots about our SF position. Its just sad Duncan can't get any help. Dice didn't even wanna come back here in s limited role. That says alot. Once Duncan an Ginobili leaves the spurs will be like the old clippers, the new cavs, the bobcats,SN shitty teams no one wants to play for.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

Duncan can't get help partially because he's getting overpaid. He's not worth 18 million...he doesn't take his player option and resigns for what he's actually worth (9-10 million range) we have the ability to pick up some free agents.

[Fireball]

Duncan may not be worth 18 million (I guess he even gets 20+) now, but he made enough sacrifices in the past. I know fans would have liked to see him opt out and instead sign for two years and 10+10 millions. But you cannot expect everything from TD. Not one of us would have done that ...

[SenorSpur]

Duncan may not be worth 18 million (I guess he even gets 20+) now, but he made enough sacrifices in the past. I know fans would have liked to see him opt out and instead sign for two years and 10+10 millions. But you cannot expect everything from TD. Not one of us would have done that ...

Amen.

And besides, I think that's a more than fair trade for 4 championships.

[Nathan89]

Duncan can't get help partially because he's getting overpaid. He's not worth 18 million...he doesn't take his player option and resigns for what he's actually worth (9-10 million range) we have the ability to pick up some free agents.

We couldn't sign a big free agent even if he was getting paid 9-10 million.

[Giuseppe]

Amen.

And besides, I think that's a more than fair trade for 4 championships.

4, not 5.

4

:toast

[elec99]

http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-jersey-nets/2011/12/15/2638716/ime-udoka-new-jersey-nets-nba-free-agency

haha, we can't even get Udoka.

[tdunk21]

John Hollinger @johnhollinger
Don't think anybody gets amnestied today, but five to watch: Gana Diop, Richard Jefferson, Mike Miller, Hasheem Thabeet, Artest/Walton/Blake

[tdunk21]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo Close
Bulls waive guard Keith Bogans.

[Mel_13]

The Centerpiece Returns

[Obstructed_View]

On fuckin' suicide watch.

[timvp]

Pop even admitted to being interested in who other teams waive. The Centerpiece is coming back, ain't he. :lol



:depressed

[Obstructed_View]

What's going to happen is the Spurs will pick him up AFTER the deadline passes to amnesty RJ and both of them will play ahead of Cowhigh in the rotation.

[Obstructed_View]

Your opening day starting lineup:

Tony Parker
Keith Bogans
Richard Jefferson
Matt Bonner*
Tim Duncan

*Unless Pop can convince Dice to come back because now that LA has shown interest that means he suddenly doesn't suck ass anymore.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Who coined The Centerpiece sobriquet?

[timvp]

Who coined The Centerpiece sobriquet?

Pop. I had to look up the exact quote, for hilarity sakes.


"He’s really the centerpiece of the whole thing. It sounds strange -- you've got Timmy out there, and Tony and Manu -- but he's the centerpiece."

:smchode:

[SenorSpur]

Pop. I had to look up the exact quote, for hilarity sakes.



:smchode:

Thanks for sharing. I've often wondered in what context Pop was using that term. It is laughable because if he truly was the centerpiece, why did he only last one year, Pop?

All of which brings me to another question. If Bogans was deemed the centerpiece when during his one-year stint, what would he consider Bruce Bowen to be, during his prolonged Spurs tenure?

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Hornets sign forward Jason Smith to a three-year, $7.5 million deal, according to a source.

[Obstructed_View]

All of which brings me to another question. If Bogans was deemed the centerpiece when during his one-year stint, what would he consider Bruce Bowen to be, during his prolonged Spurs tenure?

Keith Bogans was Pop's version of Barry Switzer. He thought just anyone could come in and defend the other team's best player and there'd be no drop-off in the team's production, which is why he rode Bowen out of town with no fanfare.

[Ice009]

We couldn't sign a big free agent even if he was getting paid 9-10 million.

Exactly. Why should he take a pay cut. What if the Spurs can't sign anyone. You think TD will be happy about that.

Players like Tim, Shaq, Kobe in their prime were worth more than they were getting paid. I would have given Tim 40 million in his prime if he wanted it.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Rodney Stuckey has agreed to a 3 year, $25 deal to stay with Pistons, league source confirms to Y!

[spursince#99]

You mean to tell me we still haven't signed Khris Humphries? The best available McDyess replacement and the best fit for our team as well. I'll go crazy if he signs elsewhere for nothing because he can't possibly command much as the high priced free agents are already gone.

[DPG21920]

Spurs have the potential to be better than last year as is IMO, but this was a laughably bad off season so far.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Troy Murphy has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Lakers, league source tells Y! Sports.

[spurs10]

Come on. We have to get someone, Tim, Tiago, Blair, and Bonner obviously aren't enough in a compacted season like this. Maybe on Monday when we reach Dice's deadline they'll be forced to do something!!!!!

[Nathan89]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Troy Murphy has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Lakers, league source tells Y! Sports.

Nice to see the Lakers making big man additions.

[spurs10]

Nice to see the Lakers making big man additions.
Yes, bloody wonderful! :flag:

[TD 21]

Ideally, I wouldn't have wanted Murphy. But it's way too late to be talking about who'd be ideal. At this point, there's no way they're getting a big better than Murphy, which begs the question: Why didn't they sign Murphy? Or Clark? Or Wright? Or one of the Williamses? Why didn't we even hear of them being interested in any?

As far as veteran's minimum bigs, who can shoot and have some experience in the league, all that's left is: Barron (likely to be waived), Ajinca, Elson, Smith and Allen.

[jjktkk]

Wonder what the Jazz are gonna do with Okur. Hes healthy, but given the glut of bigs on the Jazz, don't see alot of pt for him(Okurs not even listed on their depth chart). I would rather have Okur than Bon Bon.

[Obstructed_View]

They're supposed to be clearing out other players to make room for Okur in the rotation. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.

[spurs10]

They're supposed to be clearing out other players to make room for Okur in the rotation. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.
Hope they clear out Al Jefferson to our team!
:flag: