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SnakeBoy
12-20-2024, 04:39 PM
It's cooler in the shade. Thanks science.
Winehole23
12-21-2024, 08:13 AM
It's cooler in the shade. Thanks science.measuring the change in the extent of cloud cover over time was the impressive thing, tbh
Winehole23
12-21-2024, 08:14 AM
Snake Boy so trite
Winehole23
08-03-2025, 08:56 AM
The Trump EPA is about to gut clean air enforcement. He's currently shaking down universities and cancelling scientific research grants en masse
Advantage, pseudoscience
On Tuesday, the Environmental Protection Agency (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/epa) (EPA) announced a proposal to undo the 2009 “endangerment finding”, which allows the agency to limit planet-heating pollution from cars and trucks, power plants and other industrial sources. Hours later, the Department of Energy (DOE) published a 150-page report defending the proposal, claiming scientific concern about the climate crisis is overblown.
“Climate change (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-crisis) is a challenge – not a catastrophe,” wrote the energy secretary, Chris Wright, in the report’s introduction.
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https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b1658fd15ac32a7af37a9de21bd013d9362ff3fe/441_0_4413_3531/master/4413.jpg?width=460&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&
‘Shooting ourselves in the foot’: how Trump is fumbling geothermal energy
Read more
(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/29/trump-geothermal-energy)
The energy department published the report hours after the EPA announced a plan (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/29/trump-zeldin-epa-greenhouse-gas-emissions) to roll back 2009’s “endangerment finding”, a seminal ruling that provided the legal basis for the agency to regulate climate-heating pollution under the Clean Air Act. If finalized, the move would topple virtually all US climate regulation. (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jul/31/trump-epa-endangerment-finding)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/01/trump-epa-climate-change-report
Winehole23
08-03-2025, 08:57 AM
The Trump EPA is about to gut clean air enforcement. He's currently shaking down universities and cancelling scientific research grants en masse
Advantage, pseudoscience
On Tuesday, the Environmental Protection Agency (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/epa) (EPA) announced a proposal to undo the 2009 “endangerment finding”, which allows the agency to limit planet-heating pollution from cars and trucks, power plants and other industrial sources. Hours later, the Department of Energy (DOE) published a 150-page report defending the proposal, claiming scientific concern about the climate crisis is overblown.
“Climate change (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-crisis) is a challenge – not a catastrophe,” wrote the energy secretary, Chris Wright, in the report’s introduction.
...
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b1658fd15ac32a7af37a9de21bd013d9362ff3fe/441_0_4413_3531/master/4413.jpg?width=460&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&
‘Shooting ourselves in the foot’: how Trump is fumbling geothermal energy
Read more
(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/29/trump-geothermal-energy)
The energy department published the report hours after the EPA announced a plan (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/29/trump-zeldin-epa-greenhouse-gas-emissions) to roll back 2009’s “endangerment finding”, a seminal ruling that provided the legal basis for the agency to regulate climate-heating pollution under the Clean Air Act. If finalized, the move would topple virtually all US climate regulation. (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jul/31/trump-epa-endangerment-finding)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/01/trump-epa-climate-change-report
SnakeBoy
08-06-2025, 06:16 PM
:tu
ChumpDumper
08-06-2025, 06:19 PM
:tu
Why do you hate breathing and love pedophiles?
velik_m
08-09-2025, 12:16 AM
US to rewrite its past national climate reports
The decision, announced by Energy Secretary Chris Wright during a CNN appearance Tuesday night, follows the government's revocation of the Endangerment Finding, a scientific determination that underpins a host of regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gas emissions.
Asked by CNN's Kaitlan Collins why previous editions of the National Climate Assessment were no longer available online, former fracking company CEO Wright responded: "Because we're reviewing them, and we will come out with updated reports on those and with comments on those."
First published in 2000, the National Climate Assessment has long been viewed as a cornerstone of the US government's understanding of climate science, synthesizing input from federal agencies and hundreds of external experts.
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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250807-us-to-rewrite-its-past-national-climate-reports
velik_m
08-11-2025, 09:52 AM
The Whole World Is Switching to EVs Faster Than You
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China (where plug-in vehicles have nearly half the market) gets most of the attention, but neighboring Vietnam isn’t far behind: Pure-play EV-maker VinFast Auto Ltd. accounted for more than a third of car sales in the first half of this year. Turkey’s 13% sales share for fully electric vehicles in the first quarter was about double the penetration rate in Spain and Australia, according to a survey by Strategy&. In Indonesia, the share was about the same as in the US, at 7.4%. In Malaysia, it was 8.6% in the first half.
Those countries all have legacy car industries still pumping out internal combustion engines. Things are moving even faster in nations wholly dependent on imports. More than three-quarters of the value of vehicles brought into Nepal, Sri Lanka and Djibouti last year was purely electric. Import shares in Ethiopia and Laos were 40% and 30% respectively1. Plug-in sales increased by 60% in developing countries as a whole in 2024, according to the International Energy Agency.
As with the wave of EVs taking over the Gulf’s oil producers, it’s a sign of a world switching to electric mobility with breathtaking speed. The pace of the change makes the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, which expects developing economies’ oil consumption to increase by half by 2050, look deluded.
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The stronger argument for the resilience of road fuel at this point isn’t that emerging markets are going to start using more of it. It’s clear this battle is already being lost. Instead, it’s that rich countries have raised tariff barriers, bungled charger rollouts, and loosened fuel-economy rules to the point where they’ve sabotaged their own transition plans.
That’s giving incumbent carmakers a chance to eke a few more years out of their obsolete businesses, while competitors in the Global South seize the technological lead. Most of the world is already taking advantage of cleaner, cheaper road transportation. By the time developed countries realize how far they’ve fallen behind, it will be too late to catch up.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-08-10/the-whole-world-is-switching-to-evs-faster-than-you
Winehole23
08-11-2025, 10:24 AM
Big lost opportunity
Trump's massive duties on industrial inputs bodes ill for attracting new plants to the USA
Winehole23
10-18-2025, 07:42 AM
By the way, do you believe Michael Mann "cherry-picked" his data to arrive at the famous hockey stick graph? Would that be logically flawed and dishonest?trend proved him out, it seems
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3UpEfIWwAE-JAz?format=png&name=small
GAustex
10-29-2025, 09:22 AM
And the hysteria over climate change has disappeared like a fart in the wind
Winehole23
10-29-2025, 09:35 AM
^^^ doesn't read anything but verified MAGA propaganda
ChumpDumper
10-29-2025, 11:35 AM
And the hysteria over climate change has disappeared like a fart in the wind
According to whom?
Please explain.
SnakeBoy
10-29-2025, 01:36 PM
And the hysteria over climate change has disappeared like a fart in the wind
You knew the hoax was unraveling when they started blaming cow farts
GAustex
10-29-2025, 09:51 PM
https://x.com/grandoldmemes/status/1983706710448673146
ChumpDumper
10-29-2025, 09:56 PM
https://x.com/grandoldmemes/status/1983706710448673146
lol can't embed? won't read
Winehole23
10-29-2025, 10:00 PM
You knew the hoax was unraveling when they started blaming cow fartswhat hoax?
Winehole23
10-30-2025, 08:45 PM
Snake Boy with nothing to say about his own post
So much the worse for whatever he might have been trying to say
velik_m
02-01-2026, 01:00 PM
EVs Just Outsold Gas Cars In Europe For The First Time
Electric cars outsold traditional gas-powered passenger vehicles for the first time in Europe in December of last year, marking a huge shift in the regional car market. Despite a proposed loosening of the upcoming 2035 gas car ban, Europeans bought over 300,000 EVs last month, boosting the year-over-year figures by a solid 50% and overtaking gas cars, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA).
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https://insideevs.com/news/785541/ev-sales-surpass-gas-cars-europe-first-time/
DarrinS
02-01-2026, 11:59 PM
https://insideevs.com/news/782405/ev-sales-drop-2025-tax-credit-trump/
ChumpDumper
02-02-2026, 12:54 AM
https://insideevs.com/news/782405/ev-sales-drop-2025-tax-credit-trump/
:lol remember when you said there would never be enough electricity for EVs and you'd be forced to buy $50 light bulbs?
DarrinS
02-02-2026, 01:12 AM
:lol remember when you said there would never be enough electricity for EVs and you'd be forced to buy $50 light bulbs?
There won't be enough electricity for EVs, if everyone adopted them. They really suck in sub freezing temps.
ChumpDumper
02-02-2026, 01:45 AM
There won't be enough electricity for EVs, if everyone adopted them.Look at the outlays for your AI the next decade.
Tell me how that compares.
BadMotorscooter
02-02-2026, 03:44 AM
Look at the outlays for your AI the next decade.
Tell me how that compares.
Prove it.
Blake
02-18-2026, 11:25 PM
Forecast says 93 degrees for the high next Friday.
February 27.
I guess it's time to get the pool ready, amirite, Darrin?
Blake
02-19-2026, 10:26 PM
Aww forecast changed to mid 80s. Maybe we'll open the pool the following week to start March off.
Winehole23
02-20-2026, 09:57 AM
heat accumulation
natural feedback loops will not be mocked
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HBiu6CXWIAAz093?format=png&name=900x900
Blake
02-26-2026, 12:54 PM
High heat incoming: San Antonio could break a 72-year old record on Thursday
https://www.expressnews.com/san-antonio-weather/forecast/article/san-antonio-heat-record-weather-hot-texas-21941259.php
February time is now pool time!
Winehole23
02-27-2026, 07:36 AM
"Warming has already melted so much ice in Greenland and Antarctica that Earth’s rotation has slowed and its axis has shifted, slightly altering the length of the day and disrupting the precision of satellite tracking, global positioning systems and timekeeping."hhttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/opinion/blizzard-snow-storm-winter.html?utm_source=cbnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=2026-02-25
Winehole23
06-12-2026, 08:49 AM
Exxon projected anthropogenic climate change roughly in line with academic projections from 1977-2003
Many of the uncovered fossil fuel industry documents include explicit projections of the amount of warming expected to occur over time in response to rising atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations. Yet, these numerical and graphical data have received little attention. Indeed, no one has systematically reviewed climate modeling projections by any fossil fuel interest. What exactly did oil and gas companies know, and how accurate did their knowledge prove to be? Here, we address these questions by reporting and analyzing all known global warming projections documented by—and in many cases modeled by—Exxon and ExxonMobil Corp scientists between 1977 and 2003.
Our results show that in private and academic circles since the late 1970s and early 1980s, ExxonMobil predicted global warming correctly and skillfully. Using established statistical techniques, we find that 63 to 83% of the climate projections reported by ExxonMobil scientists were accurate in predicting subsequent global warming. ExxonMobil’s average projected warming was 0.20° ± 0.04°C per decade, which is, within uncertainty, the same as that of independent academic and government projections published between 1970 and 2007. The average “skill score” and level of uncertainty of ExxonMobil’s climate models (67 to 75% and ±21%, respectively) were also similar to those of the independent models.
Moreover, we show that ExxonMobil scientists correctly dismissed the possibility of a coming ice age in favor of a “carbon dioxide induced ‘super-interglacial’”; accurately predicted that human-caused global warming would first be detectable in the year 2000 ± 5; and reasonably estimated how much CO2 would lead to dangerous warming.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063
Winehole23
06-12-2026, 08:52 AM
Wall Street and PE looking to make $$$ off extreme weather
Attention: DOGE’d (https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/12/24/trump-climate-science-funding-cuts/) and RIF’ed (https://www.science.org/content/article/nasa-eliminate-chief-scientist-position#:~:text=The%20reductions%2C%20which,major %20climate%20assessment.) U.S. government meteorologists and climate scientists (https://gizmodo.com/trump-administration-fires-hundreds-of-weather-forecasters-and-other-noaa-employees-2000570142). JPMorgan Chase & Co. is looking to hire (https://jpmc.fa.oraclecloud.com/hcmUI/CandidateExperience/en/sites/CX_1001/job/210748685) a new executive director focused on “catastrophe modeling.” Ideally, someone who could be a “subject matter expert in natural catastrophe and climate,” upping their portfolio’s “resilience to physical climate risks.”
And they’re not alone. Some hedge funds are offering as much as $1 million per year for the right extreme weather forecaster. As one recruiter who specializes in placing experts in this niche world of “insurance-linked securities” told (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-07/hedge-funds-are-hiring-experts-in-catastrophe-risk) Bloomberg News, anthropogenic climate change’s most canny and enterprising Cassandras have been netting “exponentially higher” pay bumps compared to their past salaries over the last two years.
Not unlike the mortgage-backed securities of the 2008 financial crisis (https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/irle-policy-brief/what-really-caused-the-great-recession/), insurance-linked securities (ILS) reimagine an insurance company’s outstanding policy risks and potential rewards as assets that it can market to outside investors, like hedge funds.
https://gizmodo.com/hedge-funds-are-hiring-climate-scientists-to-profit-off-extreme-weather-risks-2000770164
Winehole23
07-19-2026, 08:54 AM
the danger of smoke from climate-driven wildfires alone likely exceeds the mortality burden from climate change itself
Here we quantify the mortality burden in the USA due to wildfire smoke fine particulate matter (PM2.5) under climate change. We construct an ensemble of statistical and machine learning models that link climate to wildfire smoke PM2.5 and empirically estimate smoke PM2.5–mortality relationships using data on all recorded deaths in the USA. We project that smoke PM2.5 could result in 71,420 excess deaths (95% confidence interval: 34,930–98,430) per year by 2050 under a high-warming scenario (shared socioeconomic pathway scenario 3-7.0, SSP3-7.0)—a 73% increase relative to the estimated 2011–2020 average annual excess deaths from smoke. Cumulative excess deaths from smoke PM2.5 could reach 1.9 million between 2026 and 2055. We find evidence for mortality impacts of smoke PM2.5 that last up to 3 years after exposure. When monetized, climate-driven smoke deaths result in economic damages that exceed existing estimates of climate-driven damages from all other causes combined in the USA4 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09611-w#ref-CR4),5 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09611-w#ref-CR5). Our research suggests that the health impacts of climate-driven wildfire smoke could be among the most important and costly consequences of a warming climate in the USA.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09611-w
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