Voter Fraud Found

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

1071221626371371009yet more evidence the election was tainted.

absentee ballot shenanigans are way more dangerous than voter impersonation. seems to be a competitive sport in Bladen County.

[Pavlov]

1071221626371371009I am in favor of a full investigation of any irregularities.

You are not.

[Chris]

I am in favor of a full investigation of any irregularities.

You are not.

Never said such.

[Pavlov]

Never said such.Well, speak up.

Do you want the Republicans investigated?

Yes or no.

[Chris]

Well, speak up.

Do you want the Republicans investigated?

Yes or no.

I am in favor of a full investigation as well.

Additionally, Republicans have been trying to pass voter ID laws for quite some time only to get shot down.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/despite-election-fraud-scandal-north-carolina-advances-voter-id-bill/amp

[Pavlov]

I am in favor of a full investigation as well.

Additionally, Republicans have been trying to pass voter ID laws for quite some time only to get shot down.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/despite-election-fraud-scandal-north-carolina-advances-voter-id-bill/ampThat would do absolutely nothing about their fraud.

[Winehole23]

I am in favor of a full investigation as well.

Additionally, Republicans have been trying to pass voter ID laws for quite some time only to get shot down.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/despite-election-fraud-scandal-north-carolina-advances-voter-id-bill/ampvoter impersonation is vanishingly rare.

voter ID laws prevent way more legit voters than fraudsters and do nothing to make absentee balloting more secure.

[Chris]

voter impersonation is vanishingly rare.

voter ID laws prevent way more legit voters than fraudsters and do nothing to make absentee balloting more secure.

Might as well get rid of all ID laws by that logic. More people buy beer that are over 21 so just open up the floodgates. Brilliant.

[Pavlov]

Might as well get rid of all ID laws by that logic. More people buy beer that are over 21 so just open up the floodgates. Brilliant.:lol fallacy express right on time

[Winehole23]

Might as well get rid of all ID laws by that logic.We did fine without them for over 200 years. As enacted there's little doubt that voter ID laws suppress far more valid than invalid votes, so yeah, I'd be for getting rid of most voter ID laws currently on the books.

Fwiw, depending on the details I might be cool with automatic registration and national ID for the purpose. I'm not doctrinaire.

[Winehole23]

the devil's in the details, right?

[Winehole23]

Bladen Co. Elections Vice-chair steps down:

https://popular.info/p/vice-chair-of-bladen-county-board



Who knew rural NC politics would be incestuous?

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[pgardn]

Red team crying about the 2 million illegal votes that are as relevant as chasing the real killer of OJs wife.

Then they get a boomerang come slap them upside the head.

[Winehole23]

Red team crying about the 2 million illegal votes that are as relevant as chasing the real killer of OJs wife.

Then they get a boomerang come slap them upside the head.and what does Chris say?
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first he says DEMS DO IT TOO and when I acknowledge that, then he says CAN WE HAZ MORE VOTER SUPPRESSION, PLEASE?

[Winehole23]

Intriguing pattern:

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[pgardn]

and what does Chris say?
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first he says DEMS DO IT TOO and when I acknowledge that, then he says CAN WE HAZ MORE VOTER SUPPRESSION, PLEASE?

Red team intellectual on display.
Meanwhile, Cosmo Chris is still convinced 3 million illegal votes lost the popular vote for Trump.

Chris
Ducks
Derp

All star lineup.

Who else...

[Winehole23]

Blank ballots collected and cast as votes:

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[pgardn]

Blank ballots collected and cast as votes:

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Well there you go

Just forget the ballot harvesting and get right down to the nitty-gritty.
Go red team.

[Winehole23]

Well there you go

Just forget the ballot harvesting and get right down to the nitty-gritty.
Go red team.almost total radio silence from red team on documented election fraud.

if only there was some non-white person or immigrant to blame it on, there would be a dogpile.

[Winehole23]

The NC GOP, the ostensible winner, calls for a new US House election in NC09.

There's yet another issue besides absentee ballot harvesting: early voting tallies were counted and leaked before the polls closed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-carolina-gop-calls-for-new-election-for-disputed-house-seat/

[Winehole23]

looks like the NC GOP will throw the uncertified winner overboard

[ElNono]

Despite everything, is good to see the system works, and the fraud is caught, despite the constant assertions that massive voter fraud goes undetected and unpunished.

Hopefully voter suppression cheerleaders are taking notes.

[Winehole23]

Despite everything, is good to see the system works, and the fraud is caught, despite the constant assertions that massive voter fraud goes undetected and unpunished.Yes indeed.


Hopefully voter suppression cheerleaders are taking notes.They seem to be allergic to discussing election fraud. Maybe if a Dem gets caught red-handed next time their concern will revive.

[Pavlov]

:rolleyes @ BREAKING but McCready just got all the material needed for his special election ad campaign.

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[boutons_deux]

Despite everything, is good to see the system works, and the fraud is caught, despite the constant assertions that massive voter fraud goes undetected and unpunished.

Hopefully voter suppression cheerleaders are taking notes.

:lol how naive

NC9 vote fraudsters were fucking incredibly stupid, so taking them down is no Big Game Trophy. (what will their punishment be in Repug NC?)

Repugs voter suppression, gerrymandering, counting fraud is a strong as ever. Nothing has changed, nothing improved, no Repugs scared to cheat and rape the democracy myth.

If the SCOTUS5 whores approve partisan gerrymandering, maybe you simpletons will see that America is really GAMEOVER.

[ElNono]

:lol how naive

NC9 vote fraudsters were fucking incredibly stupid, so taking them down is no Big Game Trophy. (what will their punishment be in Repug NC?)

Repugs voter suppression, gerrymandering, counting fraud is a strong as ever. Nothing has changed, nothing improved, no Repugs scared to cheat and rape the democracy myth.

If the SCOTUS5 whores approve partisan gerrymandering, maybe you simpletons will see that America is really GAMEOVER.

My comment flew well over your head...

[boutons_deux]

My comment flew well over your head...

You flatter yourself that I read your comment

[ElNono]

You flatter yourself that I read your comment

why quote me then?

carry on

[Winehole23]

9 votes in Hidalgo County is like what? 14%?Then he turned his back on a spoiled US House election in NC.

Telling.

[Winehole23]

essentially, Brian Kemp is investigating Georgia Democrats for pointing out egregious vulnerabilities in the elections system he oversees.AJC a month late with the results of Brian Kemp's investigation: nil.

He cried wolf for the second election running, to cover his own incompetence.

https://www.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/how-brian-kemp-turned-warning-election-system-vulnerability-against-democrats/iLOkpHK3ea39t8Eh4PCGxM/

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North Carolina GOP demands Mark Harris' win be certified despite mounting evidence of fraud

Even after previous admissions that the race in unsettled N.C. district was tainted, GOP wants their guy seated

despite an ongoing investigation that has found rampant evidence of election fraud.

State investigators are continuing to probe evidence (https://www.salon.com/2018/12/11/fbi-investigating-n-c-election-fraud-were-votes-counted-before-election-day/) that absentee ballots were illegally collected and

may have been destroyed in two rural counties in the district.

the board has received numerous sworn statements that suggest Republican operative Leslie McCrae Dowless hired workers to illegally collect (https://www.salon.com/2018/12/07/north-carolina-republican-owes-34k-for-absentee-ballots-that-triggered-fraud-probe/) mail-in absentee ballots.

Two of the workers have admitted they illegally rounded up absentee ballots and submitted them to Dowless.

Wake County District Attorney Lorrin Freeman told CNN that more than 1,000 (https://www.salon.com/2018/12/07/north-carolina-republican-owes-34k-for-absentee-ballots-that-triggered-fraud-probe/) absentee ballots may have been destroyed in the illegal operation.

the state’s Republican Party approved a resolution demanding that the board either provide clear evidence that the irregularities swung the election or seat Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/19/north-carolina-gop-demands-mark-harris-win-be-certified-despite-mounting-evidence-of-fraud/ (https://www.salon.com/2018/12/19/north-carolina-gop-demands-mark-harris-win-be-certified-despite-mounting-evidence-of-fraud/)

[Winehole23]

voter suppression in deepest blue NY.

who can forget the 200,000 primary voters scrubbed in Brooklyn in 2016?


In 2016, when the governor of Ohio was asked why he had signed a bill to limit early voting,he had a simple retort (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/kasich-denies-cutting-voting-access-was-partisan-move): He pointed to another state that had no early voting at all.

When North Carolina’s governor was sued for cutting early voting in his own state, his lawyers cited that same state (https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legal-work/Brief_for_Appellees_6_9_16.pdf#page=60) as rebuttal.

In each case, the state in question was New York. Deep blue, liberal-ideal New York.

Despite its reputation for sterling progressivism, New York has some of the most restrictive election laws in the nation. It is one of just 12 states without early voting. No other state holds its federal and state primary elections on different days. Voters who want to change their party affiliation must do so more than a year before the election, a rule that famously left Ivanka Trump unable to vote for her father (https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/ivanka-trump-new-york-221869) in the 2016 Republican primary.

“New Yorkers would be aghast if anyone accused New York of voter suppression,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. But, she said, “the antiquated nature of our laws and the failure to enact any common-sense reforms for years puts us kind of in voter suppression land.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/nyregion/early-voting-reform-laws-ny.html

[Winehole23]

Very chaotic:

NCSBE has dissolved without certifying a winner; the incoming gov will pick the new SBE, which will not reconvene until Jan.11.

The uncertified winner, who has refused to turn over documents or meet with investigators, looks likely to present himself to be sworn into the US House on January 3rd..

[Pavlov]

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[Winehole23]

Both sides tho, right?in this case, just Republicans it would seem

[Winehole23]

1078781020986593281sounds about right. :tu

[boutons_deux]

Maine GOP Governor Paul LePage Writes ‘Stolen Election’ in Certifying District Result

https://am12.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2018/12/lepage.jpg

https://www.mediaite.com/online/maine-gop-governor-paul-lepage-writes-stolen-election-in-certifying-district-result/

[Winehole23]

^^^misfiled

Paul Page jawboning a certification because he doesn't like ranked choice voting isn't topically related

[boutons_deux]

^^^misfiled

Paul Page jawboning a certification because he doesn't like ranked choice voting isn't topically related

it's Repug election BULLSHIT, posted with extreme precision. Forum Cop, G F Y

[Winehole23]

please quit shitting up threads

[boutons_deux]

please quit shitting up threads

quit prolonging inane multie-page pissing matches with the inanes.

[boutons_deux]

Repug shit hole Texas

Latino Turnout Surged.

Then Texas Questioned 98,000 Voters’ Citizenship.

Hispanics helped put Texas in play for Democrats in November. Now, Republicans leaders want nearly 100,000 people to prove they’re allowed to vote.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/latino-turnout-surged-then-texas-challenged-98000-voters-citizenship_us_5c50cbc4e4b00906b26e490d?utm_medium =email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__013019&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__013019+CID_7baaf053 5f6a071bd1e6a4eb6c28179e&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__013019

Pure intimidation, even if white male Repugs back off from this racist move.

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Jim Crow FOREVER

Kentucky is disenfranchising black voters at a higher rate than any other state in the country

More than 312,000 people in the state are currently banned from voting due to felony convictions.

https://thinkprogress.org/kentucky-voting-rights-report-f5a9bb685f11/

[Winehole23]

Texas recently sent McClennan County a list of 366 potential non-citizens on the voter rolls

All turned out to be US citizens.

https://www.wacotrib.com/news/elections/state-all-on-local-list-of-potential-noncitizen-voters-are/article_20771942-538d-506d-bcad-7e7ca79e261d.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Winehole23]

Texas now admits a significant number of people it flagged were mistakenly singled out.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01/29/texas-voter-citizenship-list-problems-state-tells-counties/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Spurminator]

Texas now admits a significant number of people it flagged were mistakenly singled out.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01/29/texas-voter-citizenship-list-problems-state-tells-counties/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Push false findings with a bang, correct them with a whisper.

[spurraider21]

Push false findings with a bang, correct them with a whisper.
surely nathan will complain about this

[Winehole23]

Push false findings with a bang, correct them with a whisper.
Actually, Texas Tribune corrected Texas on the instant. Doubt we'll hear the GOP or the President walk it back, though.

[boutons_deux]

TX Repugs knew what they were doing, knew their targets were citizens: pure intimidation.

[Spurminator]

Actually, Texas Tribune corrected Texas on the instant. Doubt we'll hear the GOP or the President walk it back, though.

My target wasn't the Tribune, it was the TX officials laying the report out to the press like a big pile of cocaine after a drug bust.

[Winehole23]

Right. All about advancing the narrative.

Shame on Texas.

[boutons_deux]

Jim Crow, and Jaime Cuervo, alive and well in nativist, racist Repugs' shit hole TX

Texas Republicans Are Lying About Voter Fraud to Justify a Massive, Racist Voter Purge

On Jan. 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton tweeted (https://twitter.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1088898595653386240) a “VOTER FRAUD ALERT” that quickly rocketed around the internet.

Texas Secretary of State David Whitley, Paxton asserted, had discovered that approximately “95,000 individuals identified” as non-citizens are registered to vote in the state, “58,000 of whom have voted” in Texas elections.

Whitley promptly urged counties (https://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Texas-is-purging-95-000-voters-suspected-to-be-13562186.php) to begin purging these 95,000 people from their voter rolls,

demanding proof of citizenship within 30 days or canceling their registrations.

Donald Trump joined the action, tweeting on Jan. 27 that Whitley’s numbers “are just the tip of iceberg.” Voter fraud, Trump wrote (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1089513936435716096), “is rampant. Must be stopped. Strong voter ID!”

The situation in Texas is a mess.

But it is a dangerous mess.

Paxton, a notorious foe (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Paxton-asks-Supreme-Court-to-restore-Texas-voter-9242956.php) of voting rights, is creating chaos and confusion in order to justify a radical purge of Texas’ voter rolls.

As three new lawsuits filed by an array of civil rights groups argue, this purge isn’t just slapdash and sloppy—

it’s discriminatory and illegal.

Paxton and his allies are taking a page from Kris Kobach’s playbook (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/magazine/the-man-behind-trumps-voter-fraud-obsession.html) of shock and awe:

Toss out a wildly inflated claim of non-citizen voting,

then use the ensuing panic to justify mass disenfranchisement.

It is a dirty and duplicitous tactic.

And thanks to America’s increasingly conservative judiciary, it might actually succeed.

Texas’ voter fraud pandemonium is actually a combination of

Kobach’s two favorite moves:

creating dubious lists of allegedly fraudulent voters to disenfranchise, and

forcing people to prove citizenship in order to cast a ballot.

Despite this obvious defect,

Whitley has pushed ahead with the purge.

Even after warning election officials that

the list might be faulty, he has not retracted it,

leaving counties to implement a purge known to target naturalized citizens.

Even worse, he has pressed ahead with a plan to

create a new list of alleged non-citizen voters every month, directing voter registrars to “take action” upon receiving each new batch of names.

Election officials will send a single notice to these voters informing them that they are set to be removed from the rolls.

If they do not provide a birth certificate, passport, or certificate of naturalization proving U.S. citizenship within 30 days, they will be purged.

Paxton and Whitley are not purging non-citizen voters;

they are purging naturalized voters who have a fundamental right to participate in elections like any other citizen.

51.7 percent of naturalized U.S. citizens in Texas are Latino, while 28.8 percent are Asian.

In the 2018 midterm election, Texas Latinos more than doubled their turnout

compared to the 2014 midterms, casting 19.1 percent of all votes.

MALDEF argues that the purge “will disproportionately and negatively affect Latinos,”

since “the Latino population in Texas has a higher ratio of naturalized citizens to native-born citizens.”

These are powerful arguments backed by substantial evidence of official malfeasance.

But the Supreme Court, bolstered by Trump’s judicial nominees, have mastered the art (https://thinkprogress.org/republican-judges-get-out-of-racism-free-card-94005d481756/) of waving away proof of racism to uphold voter suppression laws.

(Plus, the court already gutted (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/12-96) the Voting Rights Act, whose now-defunct pre-clearance provision could’ve halted a voter purge like this one.)

Just last June, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority ignored the obvious discrimination (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/the-abbott-v-perez-case-echoes-shelby-county-v-holder-as-a-further-death-blow-for-the-voting-rights-act.html) behind Texas’ racial gerrymander,

writing that courts must “presume” the “good faith” of legislatures. :lol :lol :lol :lol

Paxton and Whitley’s attack on minority voters is about as blatant as racist disenfranchisement can get in 2019.

But there’s a depressingly good chance that our Trump-packed courts will pretend to see no evil.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/texas-republicans-racist-illegal-voters-purge.html

Latinos DOUBLING their turnout in 2018 midterms has panicked the shitbag Texas Repugs and shitbag racist Texans who elected them.

[Nbadan]

https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/image2-29-700x470.jpg
Asshat extraordinare

THE TEXAS TWO-STEP ON VOTER FRAUD: MAKE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS, THEN WALK THEM BACK


Incendiary claims by the Texas secretary of state that 95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas are already being quietly walked back by Texas state officials, who made headlines with what appear to be poorly documented charges. Already, some counties have been informed that some, perhaps thousands, of registered voters deemed ineligible to vote were wrongly flagged as potential noncitizens. The state also faces at least one lawsuit from the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), charging state officials with voter intimidation.

Texas Secretary of State David Whitley (R) initially claimed to have found 95,000 possible noncitizens registered to vote statewide, some 58,000 of whom have cast a ballot at some point since 1996. State officials issued an advisory last week that advises local election officials to verify the names that fall in their jurisdictions.

. . .

“It’s a lot of what appears to be baseless claims and stoking the voter fraud fears,” Anthony Gutierrez, executive director of the progressive group Common Cause Texas told WhoWhatWhy. “There is no evidence of anything despite the tweets we saw from our president.”

President Donald Trump was quick to publicize the story on Twitter and use it as a strategy to promote stronger voter ID laws.

. . .

https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/01/31/the-texas-two-step-on-voter-fraud-make-outlandish-claims-then-walk-them-back/

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Texas’ Election Chief Deflects Scrutiny On Bogus Noncitizen Voter List

Texas’ election chief on Thursday defended giving prosecutors a list of 95,000 potential noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls before vetting the information, which turned out to wrongly include scores of people who were naturalized before casting legal ballots.

Secretary of State David Whitley deflected sharp questions from Texas lawmakers over whether his office made mistakes in his first public comments since his office in January called into question the citizenship of tens of thousands of voters since 1996.

“I will readily level with you :lol

that we can always improve the process,” Whitley said.

“But the data is what the data is, :lol

and we were confident that was the best data we could get.” :lol

He was pressed over why his office immediately turned the numbers over to Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, explaining

he wanted to get the information “in the hands of someone who could do something with it.” :lol

Three days later, Paxton sent a campaign fundraising email to supporters with the headline,

“VOTER FRAUD ALERT.” :lol

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/texas-secretary-of-state-david-whitley-response-flawed-noncitizen-voter-list?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

TX Repugs all confirmed, corrupt, racist shit bags because that's what their Christ would do.

Whitley nominated because Repugs know he'll commit disenfranchisement, counting fraud, and whatever Paxton wants to keep Repugs in power.

[Winehole23]

Naturalized citizens flagged by the Sec of State are now suing Texas:

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02/01/texas-voter-citizenship-review-lawsuit/

[boutons_deux]

Just as Christ would do, hate the redskins

Utah Republicans Are Willing to Break Up Counties to Keep Elected Navajo Officials Out of Power (https://splinternews.com/utah-republicans-are-willing-to-break-up-counties-to-ke-1832626289)

As of 2017 (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanjuancountyutah/PST040217),

white folks made up 47 percent of San Juan County’s population

while Native Americans, mainly the Diné (Navajo Nation), constituted 49 percent.

Despite the near even split, the

San Juan County Commission has historically been a comfortably white, Republican-dominated outfit,

as the Diné had never held more than one of the three seats on the county commission.

This was by design—a federal court judge ruled in December 2017 (https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/12/22/federal-judge-adopts-new-voting-district-boundaries-in-san-juan-county/) that the maps in San Juan County had been racially gerrymandered to keep the Diné from power and ordered they be redrawn.

a member of the Diné and the Democratic Party, joined fellow Navajo Nation citizen and Democrat Ken Maryboy in November 2018 in historically flipping the racial and political makeup of the board.

Ever since the county maps were redrawn, nearly every San Juan County member of the GOP has fought tooth and nail to strip the rightfully elected Diné representatives of their power.

HB93 is the latest attempt by non-Natives in Utah to keep the Indigenous population from power.

The bill would allow Utah counties to split if a majority of voters were in favor of doing so.

https://splinternews.com/utah-republicans-are-willing-to-break-up-counties-to-ke-1832626289?utm_source=splinter_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-02-14

These are the same Utah Repug shtibags who ignored overwhelming popular vote to expand Medicaid.

[boutons_deux]

Can you spot the Indian?

Utah rep wants mostly white part of county to secede from mostly Navajo part after lost election (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/7/1833088/-Utah-rep-wants-mostly-white-part-of-county-to-secede-from-mostly-Navajo-part-after-lost-election)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/641372/story_image/SJC.JPG?1549570411

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/7/1833088/-Utah-rep-wants-mostly-white-part-of-county-to-secede-from-mostly-Navajo-part-after-lost-election?detail=emailLL (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/7/1833088/-Utah-rep-wants-mostly-white-part-of-county-to-secede-from-mostly-Navajo-part-after-lost-election?detail=emailLL)

[Winehole23]

Pols pick the voters, not the other way around.

[Winehole23]

Utah fighting hard to maintain a white man's government.

Poor whitey, so beleaguered!

[Pavlov]

Man, this testimony in NC9 is ridiculous. I can't see the election's being certified, but as always it comes down to a partisan vote.

[Winehole23]

Man, this testimony in NC9 is ridiculous. I can't see the election's being certified, but as always it comes down to a partisan vote.What's happening?

[Pavlov]

What's happening?McCrae Dowless' stepdaughter testified against him and admitted to altering absentee votes herself yesterday. Today it was revealed that the early votes were tabulated and the results printed at the polling site as soon as early voting was over and several people saw those results.

[Winehole23]

McCrae Dowless' stepdaughter testified against him and admitted to altering absentee votes herself yesterday. Today it was revealed that the early votes were tabulated and the results printed at the polling site as soon as early voting was over and several people saw those results.:wow

Still, a partisan vote can sweep it all under the rug and into the history books.

[Pavlov]

:wow

Still, a partisan vote can sweep it all under the rug and into the history books.Well that particular election at least. Sounds like one member of the board would have to cross party interest lines to either certify or call for another election if I heard the composition right.

[RandomGuy]

Texas now admits a significant number of people it flagged were mistakenly singled out.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01/29/texas-voter-citizenship-list-problems-state-tells-counties/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Sokay. This kind of stuff makes it easiser for us to get people to the polls.

When I make the case to people on blockwalking efforts, this is the kind of thing I tell them to look up. "don't take my word for it, they are doing it in plain sight".

[RandomGuy]

Might as well get rid of all ID laws by that logic. More people buy beer that are over 21 so just open up the floodgates. Brilliant.

I can prove bank fraud exists.

I can prove that 19 year olds will attempt to buy beer.

Can you prove voter fraud at rates greater than one in billions of votes?

By your logic, we should put Democrats in camps and set them on fire.

[Will Hunting]

Well that particular election at least. Sounds like one member of the board would have to cross party interest lines to either certify or call for another election if I heard the composition right.
Yeah composition is 3 Dems and 2 Reps, and you need 4 votes to get a new election.

This seems like a complete stalemate. I could easily see a scenario where this seat isn't filled until 2020.

[Chris]

By your logic, we should put Democrats in camps and set them on fire.

Never said such.

[Winehole23]

Never said such.would you be against it?

[Winehole23]

You never said such either.

[Winehole23]

Contradicting his father’s previous denials, the son of Republican Mark Harris testified Wednesday that he told the candidate multiple times that he had concerns about the political operative hired to run an absentee ballot campaign in Bladen County.


The testimony from John Harris rebutted suggestions by Harris and his campaign that they’d seen no red flags about McCrae Dowless, who is now at the center of allegations into voting irregularities in the 9th Congressional District.https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226492265.html

[Winehole23]

John Harris, an assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of North Carolina, first raised concerns about ballot collection in Bladen County on the night of the Republican primary in 2016. Mark Harris finished second in that race, but third-place finisher Todd Johnson collected 221 of 226 mail-in absentee ballots in Bladen County in the race.


John Harris again raised concerns in April 2017, a day after Harris first met with Dowless about running an absentee ballot program in Bladen and Robeson counties. First in a phone call and then in subsequent emails, the younger Harris warned his father of both political and legal ramifications of hiring Dowless. Harris said his father told him McCrae assured them he operated legally.

[Winehole23]

He spoke to his parents on April 7, 2017, a day after the candidate met with Dowless.

“I told him that collecting absentee ballots was a felony,” John Harris said, “and I would send him the statute that collecting ballots was a felony.”

Later that morning, he emailed his father the statute that makes such actions a felony in North Carolina. He also emailed his fears abut Dowless, saying he believed the Bladen County operation was on “thin ice.”

“The key thing I am fairly certain of they do that is illegal is they collect the completed absentee ballots and mail them all at once,” he emailed his parents.

In still another email that night, he said, “Good test is if you’re comfortable with the full process he (Dowless) uses being broadcast in the press.”

[Winehole23]

“I love my dad and I love my mom,” John Harris said as his father cried. “I certainly have no vendetta against them, no family scores to settle, OK? I think they made mistakes in this process, and they certainly did things differently than I would have done them.”

[boutons_deux]

John H sounds like he grew into a law abiding adult in spite of his crooked, criminal father.

Unlike Trash, who grew up with a KKK/criminal father, and became one himself.

[Will Hunting]

Where is all the right wing outrage about this? There’s now sworn testimony about an actual voter fraud scheme that happened, not a hypothetical one that might happen if we don’t require voter ID. Shouldn’t Republicans care about this when they claim that voter fraud is such a massive issue they’re trying to stop?

[Winehole23]

Cheater: Mulligan?

1098678923808989187

[Will Hunting]

Cheater: Mulligan?

1098678923808989187
He's already hinted that he's had "medical issues" and might not run on the ballot if there's a new election. IMO he's setting the story so he can bow out for some bullshit health reason so he doesn't have to admit it's because he got caught cheating.

[RandomGuy]

By your logic, we should put Democrats in camps and set them on fire.


Never said such.

That was my point. I was using flawed logic. Just like you were.

See how that works?

[RandomGuy]

Where is all the right wing outrage about this? There’s now sworn testimony about an actual voter fraud scheme that happened, not a hypothetical one that might happen if we don’t require voter ID. Shouldn’t Republicans care about this when they claim that voter fraud is such a massive issue they’re trying to stop?

As long as it benefits them there will be no outrage.

Yes, Republicans should care about voter fraud. That they dont'... well that says all you need to know.

[RandomGuy]

He's already hinted that he's had "medical issues" and might not run on the ballot if there's a new election. IMO he's setting the story so he can bow out for some bullshit health reason so he doesn't have to admit it's because he got caught cheating.

Because there isn't any way in a very cold hell he would win after that, and he knows it.

Be fun to watch him try, and the nationwide attention/money flow into his opponent, who would get some supercharged ad buys.

[Will Hunting]

As long as it benefits them there will be no outrage.
Thanks! That definitely wasn't the point I was (not so) subtly implying by asking why Republicans don't care about this.

Glad to see nothing gets by you though!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1098690364662198272

:tu

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1098690364662198272

:tuRepublican ballot fraud.

[Will Hunting]

Republican ballot fraud.
Had nothing to do with voter IDs either.

[Chris]

Republican ballot fraud.

And?

[Pavlov]

And?And neither you nor your twitter God said anything about it.

:lolQhris

[boutons_deux]

A new study finds voter ID laws don’t reduce voter fraud — or voter turnout


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/21/18230009/voter-id-laws-fraud-turnout-study-research

[Chris]

Good Lord, the Left is terrified of voter ID :lol

[Kyle Kashuv]

Good Lord, the Left is terrified of voter ID :lol
You’re terrified of brown people voting :lmao

[Winehole23]

New election orderedin NC-09.

Will the cheater withdraw?

[Winehole23]

Texas SOS David Whitley screwed up his nomination:


[For the second time, the Senate Nominations Committee met this week to approve the governor’s appointees — and for the second time, the Republican-dominated committee did not call a vote on David Whitley, the governor’s embattled pick for Texas secretary of state.


As the state battles three federal lawsuits over a botched attempt to clear its voter rolls of supposed noncitizens, Whitley has been fighting a quieter battle at the Texas Capitol: to win confirmation as Texas’ chief election official. To keep his job for much longer, he needs to muster support from at least some Democratic members of the Texas Senate, which has the power to accept or reject his nomination.https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02/21/texas-senate-democrat-secretary-of-state-david-whitley-jose-rodriguez/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1550776074&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[RandomGuy]

Thanks! That definitely wasn't the point I was (not so) subtly implying by asking why Republicans don't care about this.

Glad to see nothing gets by you though!

You know me... Captain Obvious.

[RandomGuy]

Good Lord, the Left is terrified of voter ID :lol

More annoyed that right wing scaremongering is wasting everybody's time and money solving a fake problem. Fake problem from a fake party supporting a fake president.

[RandomGuy]

Texas SOS David Whitley screwed up his nomination:

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02/21/texas-senate-democrat-secretary-of-state-david-whitley-jose-rodriguez/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1550776074&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter[/FONT]

Dude is not going to get a single Democratic vote. The left-wing Democratosphere has been pushing collectively against him from what I have personally seen, and last bit of news I saw said that effort succeeded.

[Chris]

Voter ID is 'scaremongering'?

[RandomGuy]

Voter ID is 'scaremongering'?

Telling people to be scared of something that doesn't exist? Yes.

I only wonder what made up problem you will collectively shit yourselves over next will be.

[Chris]

Telling people to be scared of something that doesn't exist? Yes.

I only wonder what made up problem you will collectively shit yourselves over next will be.

Why are you so scared of showing your ID when you go to vote? Warrants?

[RandomGuy]

Why are you so scared of showing your ID when you go to vote? Warrants?

???? Didn't say I was scared dude, you are the one shitting yourself over brown people voting. "Muh illegals"

[Chris]

???? Didn't say I was scared dude, you are the one shitting yourself over brown people voting. "Muh illegals"

Who said anything about brown people? Did I trigger a tangent?

[Pavlov]

Chris is afraid of all the white Canadians and Europeans voting illegally.

[Winehole23]

Old people, disabled people, sick people, poor people, people who live far away from the licensing agency.

It's been clear for some time that voter ID laws as currently constructed disqualify far more legit than fake voters.

If we had a system on national ID instituted at birth and automatic voter registration I might feel somewhat different about the requirement -- though truth be told there are foreseeable issues with national ID too.

The devil's in the details.

[RandomGuy]

Who said anything about brown people? Did I trigger a tangent?

Why exactly do we need ID laws? Why spend the money?

You want me to walk you to your fear of brown people, we can get there.

[ducks]

Why are you so scared of showing your ID when you go to vote? Warrants?
They must show Id to buy their smokes and beer

[ducks]

Why exactly do we need ID laws? Why spend the money?

You want me to walk you to your fear of brown people, we can get there.
Brown people do not have Id to buy smokes or beer?

[Will Hunting]

They must show Id to buy their smokes and beer
:lol no, the 50 year old black guy with a white beard in Greensboro North Carolina isn’t getting carded when he goes to buy alcohol.

[Winehole23]

They must show Id to buy their smokes and beerVoting is more important than smokes and beer, that's exactly why the trend in the 20th century was to remove technical barriers to voting like poll taxes and literacy tests, that mainly served to keep US citizens from voting.

Voter ID laws as currently constructed do the same and should be rubbished.

The problem they purport to solve, voter impersonation, is statistically close to nil.




In one of the most comprehensive investigations of fraud (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.2bea5bb326de), Justin Levitt of Loyola Law School, Los Angeles turned up 31 credible instances of voter impersonation out of more than 1 billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014. Some of those cases may have been because of clerical errors. Levitt's investigation suggests that while voter impersonation does indeed happen, it happens so rarely that the rate is approximately one instance out of ever 32 million ballots cast. This is similar to the odds of getting “heads” 25 times in a row on a coin toss.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/25/here-are-nine-major-investigations-on-voter-fraud-that-found-virtually-nothing/

[Winehole23]

same for 2016:




In December, a Washington Post analysis of news reports found four documented cases (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/0-000002-percent-of-all-the-ballots-cast-in-the-2016-election-were-fraudulent/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.edc46f1d3f4f) of voter fraud out of about 136 million votes cast (http://www.electproject.org/2016g). That would yield a voter fraud rate of one instance per every 34 million ballots, close to what Levitt's investigation turned up. Two of those fraud cases involved Trump voters trying to vote twice, one involved a Republican election judge trying to fill out a ballot on behalf of her dead husband, and the last involved a poll worker filling in bubbles for a mayoral candidate in absentee ballots in Florida.

[Winehole23]

A team of Dartmouth researchers undertook a comprehensive statistical investigation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/02/we-checked-trumps-allegations-of-voter-fraud-we-found-no-evidence-at-all/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.0c7c61f70266) of the 2016 results, looking for evidence of abnormal voting patterns. They checked for evidence of noncitizen voting, dead people voting and tampering by election officials. They didn't find any. “Our findings do strongly suggest, however, that voter fraud concerns fomented by the Trump campaign are not grounded in any observable features of the 2016 presidential election,” they concluded (emphasis theirs). “There is no evidence of millions of fraudulent votes.”

[Winehole23]

voter roll maintenance, voting site shenanigans, student eligibilty reqirements and limiting early voting were other sources of voter suppression:

https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/voting-problems-2018

[Winehole23]

Voter ID is 'scaremongering'?Yep.

The rate of voter impersonation is approximately zero.

[Winehole23]

the SOS has screwed up the working relationship of county election officials with the state, first by giving them unreliable information, then by throwing them under the bus in court:


And in defending against three federal lawsuits over allegations the process is unconstitutional and discriminatory, top state lawyers and Ingram have instead sought to blame local election officials for moving too quickly (https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02/19/state-lawyers-defend-handling-texas-voter-citizenship-review/) on data the secretary of state’s office repeatedly said was “actionable.”


At least nine counties are now caught up in the litigation after they sent out letters asking for proof of citizenship to voters on their lists — and the state’s own lawyers are suggesting they were the ones who broke the law.
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02/23/how-texas-voter-rolls-review-frayed-its-relationship-counties/

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1099423806874099717

:tu

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1099423806874099717

:tuSo how many actually?

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1099423806874099717

:tu31 fake votes out of one billion nationwide over 14 years, most of them clerical mistakes or confusion about the the law with zero criminal intent.

we don't need a law to police a problem so small.

it would make far more sense to focus on absentee voting. there's this recent US Congressional election in NC that was spoiled due to a Republican who got caught harvesting absentee ballots, perhaps you've heard of it.

can you cite any similar instance attributable to voter impersonation?

[boutons_deux]

yawn, fraudulent Repug claims of in-person voter fraud in the Ms, as fraudulent pretext for voter suppression of legitimate voters.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1100104557814841348
https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1100126984003293184
https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1100128740544315392

[spurraider21]

we lost. therefore it must be fraud

:lol

[Pavlov]

:lmao 93000 illegals on voter rolls

[Will Hunting]

we lost. therefore it must be fraud

:lol

The best was on midterm night when someone on Fox News literally said "These Liberals just want to keep counting votes until the results change!"

[RandomGuy]

[tweet-tweet tweet

31 fake votes out of one billion nationwide over 14 years, most of them clerical mistakes or confusion about the the law with zero criminal intent.

Hail Satan.

I guess counting is not in your wheelhouse.

[ElNono]

31 fake votes out of one billion nationwide over 14 years

14%, tbh

[RandomGuy]

14%, tbh

:rofl

[spurraider21]

14%, tbh
:lmao

[Pavlov]

Harris strokes out of the new election.

Wants to spend time with his son.

[boutons_deux]

Harris strokes out of the new election.

Wants to spend time with his son.

:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1104119032935051264

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1104119032935051264:lmao "I estimate"

Margin of error: ~900,000

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1104119032935051264

How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed
https://www.propublica.org/article/kris-kobach-voter-fraud-kansas-trial


when the top proponent was challenged in a Kansas courtroom to prove that such fraud is rampant, the claims went up in smoke.

:lmao this one time... a guy on twitter said some shit.

The only reason to not keep you on ignore, is to make fun of the STUPID STUPID shit you post constantly.

The only thing you are effective at, is showing how gullible conservatives appear to be, you do realize that, right?

[spurraider21]

:lmao tom fitton estimates!

[Winehole23]

It's been well studied a number of times. Voter ID laws don't prevent voter fraud.

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/state-finds-two-dozen-possible-cases-of-voter-fraud-over/article_856de2c6-2692-53c2-be4d-a0ed1fefffa3.html

Maybe because they're designed prevent disabled, rural, sick, poor, and minority voters from voting.

[Chris]

People terrified to show their I.D. when they vote? Why? Some conspiracy theory about preventing Americans from voting? Just show your I.D. and cast your vote. What's the big deal here?

[Spurminator]

People terrified to show their I.D. when they vote? Why? Some conspiracy theory about preventing Americans from voting? Just show your I.D. and cast your vote. What's the big deal here?

You spend 12 hours a day on politics sites and you think voter ID concerns are about people being afraid to show their IDs.

SMH man.

[Winehole23]

Asked and answered in this thread, counselor: prevents far more valid than invalid voters from voting.

[Winehole23]

We didn't require ID for voting for well over 200 years.

What are you afraid of, Chris?

[Chris]

We didn't require ID for voting for well over 200 years.

What are you afraid of, Chris?

Complacent people like you.

[Winehole23]

We have one verified case of ballot fraud spoiling an election in this thread.

How many elections has voter fraud spoiled?

[Winehole23]

Complacent people like you.i'm not complacent, just realistic.

Voter ID laws do more harm to voters than elections.

Can you name one election that voter impersonation fraud has spoiled?

[Chris]

Voter ID laws to more harm to voters than elections.

This makes absolutely no sense.

[Winehole23]

This makes absolutely no sense.read it again

[Winehole23]

Can you name any US election spoiled by voter impersonation fraud, Chris?

[Winehole23]

Chris

[Winehole23]

DPS director falls on his sword, despite warning the SOS the data wasn't up to date:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/03/12/top-dps-executive-oversaw-data-production-flawed-noncitizen-voter-investigation-step

[Winehole23]

Oops, Texas did it again:

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/03/11/texas-again-mistakenly-flags-voters-citizenship-reviews/

[Winehole23]

We have one verified case of ballot fraud spoiling an election in this thread.

How many elections has voter fraud spoiled?Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) with no take.

[Pavlov]

Oops, Texas did it again:

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/03/11/texas-again-mistakenly-flags-voters-citizenship-reviews/
lol Texas gubmit

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1106966476307775488

[Winehole23]

14 is what percentage of 95,000?

https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/20190317/texas-counties-removed-14-voters-from-rolls-in-citizenship-review

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/scottpresler/status/1107721273868779522?s=21

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/scottpresler/status/1107721273868779522?s=21

Wrong.


14 is what percentage of 95,000?

https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/20190317/texas-counties-removed-14-voters-from-rolls-in-citizenship-review

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/scottpresler/status/1107721273868779522?s=21No, that part about Texas is complete bullshit.

Stop repeating lies, Chris.

[Winehole23]

Magpie Chris apparently thinks 14 is 100% of 95,000

The Persistence

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1107981376631029761

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1107833281188429824

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1107981376631029761:lol same lies amplified.


https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1107833281188429824Inactive names by definition don't vote.

[boutons_deux]

Why does a legit voter not voting lose the right to vote?

American voters are required to vote, or they lose the vote?

[Chris]

Basic projections show that California gets an extra 9 electoral votes because of counting illegals ; )

[Pavlov]

Basic projections show that California gets an extra 9 electoral votes because of counting illegals ; )Basic projections from whom?

[Chris]

The 2010 census. Electoral votes are distributed according to population as mandated in the Constitution.

[Pavlov]

The 2010 census. Electoral votes are distributed according to population as mandated in the Constitution.Projections from the census made by whom?

[Chris]

This is the disconnect.

[Pavlov]

This is the disconnect.A census doesn't make projections, Qhris. People make projections based on the census.

This is the disconnect.

If the census bureau made the projection, you'll be able to provide the link to it.

[Chris]

That sanctuary state thing starts to make sense now.

New York.

California.

; )

[spurraider21]

That sanctuary state thing starts to make sense now.

New York.

California.

; )
texas and florida each have more illegal aliens in their populations than new york

; )

[Chris]

texas and florida each have more illegal aliens in their populations than new york

; )

#BuildTheWall ; )

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1108131462426042368

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1108131462426042368
Nothing will come of it but moar tweets.

[Winehole23]

Ballot fraud isn't voter fraud, but we do know it's a problem that can spoil elections, see NC-09 for US Rep.

[Winehole23]

Basic projections show that California gets an extra 9 electoral votes because of counting illegals ; )Totally constitutional. Apportionment is made according to a count of persons.

Excluding aliens, illegal or otherwise, would be unconstitutional.

[Winehole23]

Amend the US Constitution if you don't like it.

[Pavlov]

MAYBE THEY CAN COUNT AS THREE FIFTHS OF A PERSON

[Chris]

Totally constitutional. Apportionment is made according to a count of persons.

Excluding aliens, illegal or otherwise, would be unconstitutional.

Only citizens should be counted.

[Winehole23]

Only citizens should be counted.That's not what Article I, Section 2 says.

[Winehole23]

https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census/about/census-constitution.html

[Winehole23]

Originalism bad now.

[boutons_deux]

The 2nd Amendment was to sucker in the slave states who wanted the runaway slaves patrols, euphemistically "militias", to be armed.

The census counting slaves as 3/5 of a human was another bone provide the slave states with more Congressional reps.

So you Repugs are happy with slaves as counting for 3/5 of whites, but not with immigrants being counted at all.

Would you Repugs be happy with immigrants counted as 3/5 of white people? :)

Slavery has so fucked up America, with America, gun alert!, shooting itself in the feet, even to this day.

[Winehole23]

In the census immigrants count as full persons.

Lol boutons

[boutons_deux]

In the census immigrants count as full persons.

Lol boutons

who said that, I didn't, Whine Hole?

[Winehole23]

You suggested they be counted like slaves.

[boutons_deux]

You suggested they be counted like slaves.

a joke, to mollify the xenophobes, racists

[ElNono]

Well, not fraud, but that suppression thingie... I mean, are we ever going to hear the GOP actually enabled more people to vote?


Florida felon voting rights imperiled amid GOP opposition

TALLAHASSEE — Florida's Republican-controlled Legislature is moving to roll back parts of a historic November constitutional amendment that reinstated voting rights for convicted felons, drawing sharp opposition from Democrats in a key 2020 presidential battleground.

A bill that would limit voting rights that ex-offenders gained under the ballot measure cleared its first stop in a Republican-controlled Florida House committee on a party-line vote Tuesday, and the president of the state Senate said he expects his chamber to draw up a companion measure.

Democrats and others condemned the move, likening the legislation to a poll tax imposed on African-Americans during the Jim Crow era.

“Today we saw the politicization of Amendment 4,” said Neil Volz, political director with the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition, which pushed the voting rights initiative onto last year’s ballot. “When partisan politics gets involved, the people lose.”

At stake are the voting rights of more than a million Floridians — and possibly the U.S. presidency. The legislative battle is a reminder of the high political stakes in Florida, where voters backed both Barack Obama and Donald Trump in recent presidential elections. The marquee races in last year’s elections, U.S. Senate and governor, were so tight that both were forced into recounts.

In the Statehouse, top Republicans, including Gov. Ron DeSantis, say the amendment that voters approved was ambiguous and that it’s appropriate to spell out how the measure is supposed to be carried out.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/03/19/felon-vote-sparks-battle-for-florida-as-gop-moves-to-define-rights-921875

[boutons_deux]

FL Repugs screwing the amendment where voters enfranchised felons

UT Repugs blocking Medicaid Expansion that UT people voted for.

Repugs IGNORE democratic votes.

How about voting the Repugs out of office, would Repugs ignore that?

52% of Repugs support Trash extending his term by Exec Order

[Winehole23]

James O'Keefe exposes tax-obsessed, Republican fraudster:

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/03/20/ny-republican-votes-twice-in-2018-elections-casts-mail-ballot-in-florida/

[boutons_deux]

James O'Keefe exposes tax-obsessed, Republican fraudster:

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/03/20/ny-republican-votes-twice-in-2018-elections-casts-mail-ballot-in-florida/ (https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/03/20/ny-republican-votes-twice-in-2018-elections-casts-mail-ballot-in-florida/)

"News media outlets have long reported there is “no evidence” of widespread voter fraud."

Is this SINGLE double-voter spread wide?

[boutons_deux]

Republican-controlled Florida House committee votes to create 'poll tax' on voter registration (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/20/1843717/-Republican-controlled-Florida-House-committee-votes-to-create-poll-tax-on-voter-registration)

Voting along party lines, Republicans advanced the measure, which would

require felons pay back all court fees and costs before being eligible to vote,

even if those costs are not handed down by a judge as part of the person’s sentence.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/20/1843717/-Republican-controlled-Florida-House-committee-votes-to-create-poll-tax-on-voter-registration?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

GOP won more seats in 2018 than suggested by vote share
it wasn’t as bad as it could have been for Republicans.
That’s because they may have benefited from a built-in advantage in some states, based on how political districts were drawn, that prevented deeper losses or helped them hold on to power, according to a mathematical analysis by The Associated Press.
The AP’s analysis indicates that Republicans won about 16 more U.S. House seats than would have been expected based on their average share of the vote in congressional districts across the country. In state House elections, Republicans’ structural advantage might have helped them hold on to as many as seven chambers that otherwise could have flipped to Democrats

Many political and redistricting experts say the formula provides a neutral way to determine the effects of gerrymandering and how one party can maintain power for a decade or beyond.

“Gerrymandering as a whole cheats voters out of our representation,”

The AP’s analysis found North Carolina Republicans won two or three more congressional seats than would have been expected based on their share of the vote.

Republican candidates received 51 percent of the two-party vote compared to Democrats’ 49 percent.

Yet Republicans won a 9-3 seat advantage over Democrats, with one seat still undecided because of allegations of vote fraud.

https://www.apnews.com/9fd72a4c1c5742aead977ee27815d776

Your votes don't count, due to the oligarchy buying ALL the politicians and their Repug whores queering the vote.

Voting a dog-and-pony charade, a myth that "every vote counts"

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1110370789113647104

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1110370789113647104You want some government intervention there, Qhris?

[Spurtacular]

You want some government intervention there, Qhris?

:cry collusion is okay as long as it's done by Americans, not Russians :cry

:lmao Psychopav Chump

[Winehole23]

^^^this has fuck all to do with voter/ballot/ election fraud.

WTF are y'all talking about?

[Pavlov]

^^^this has fuck all to do with voter/ballot/ election fraud.

WTF are y'all talking about?Jes' Qhris being Qhris.

He's got to post it somewhere to meet his quota.

[Winehole23]

Approaching boutons level annoyance with rando spamming of threads, even his own.

[Winehole23]

Damn, I killed seven threads today.

It won't last very long.

[boutons_deux]

Congressional Democrats launch investigation into Texas’ botched voter purge

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/Congressional-Democrats-launch-investigation-into-13724240.php?utm_campaign=mysa_breakingnews_201903 28&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/Congressional-Democrats-launch-investigation-into-13724240.php?utm_campaign=mysa_breakingnews_201903 28&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1114240806355755008

[spurraider21]

Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday directed his administration to conduct an audit into California’s embattled Department of Motor Vehicles.
:tu democrats holding them accountable

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1114240806355755008So not actual vote fraud or election fraud.

:lol "Outrage!"

[Reck]

So not actual vote fraud or election fraud.

:lol "Outrage!"

Chris's bid for Trump's 50 states has been foiled. :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1115916805489537024

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1115916805489537024Republican Florida....

[Chris]

Republican Florida....

This is a bipartisan issue...Only strict voter ID law(s) will suffice.

[Pavlov]

This is a bipartisan issue...Only strict voter ID law(s) will suffice.Actually it wouldn't have done a single thing in this case.

:lol suffice

[Chris]

Actually it wouldn't have done a single thing in this case.

:lol suffice

His I.D. would show what state he resides in and he wouldn't be allowed to vote in another state so no, you're wrong.

[Pavlov]

His I.D. would show what state he resides in and he wouldn't be allowed to vote in another state so no, you're wrong.He had lived in Florida; he probably still has a Florida ID so no, you're wrong.

[boutons_deux]

House Republicans are trying to interfere with voter suppression investigations (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/16/1850750/-House-Republicans-are-trying-to-interfere-with-voter-suppression-investigations)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/562181/story_image/GettyImages-493751962.jpg?1530806169

House Republicans are strongly hinting (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/house-republicans-voting-rights-oversight-probe) to state officials that they should stonewall the Oversight Committee’s investigation into voter suppression.

A letter signed by Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan and other Republicans claims that the investigation raises “serious federalism concerns” and is “partisan.”

House Republicans are strongly hinting (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/house-republicans-voting-rights-oversight-probe) to state officials that they should stonewall the Oversight Committee’s investigation into voter suppression.

A letter signed by Ohio Rep.

Jim Jordan and other Republicans claims that the investigation raises “serious federalism concerns” and is “partisan.”

Rep. Elijah Cummings, the committee chair, responded forcefully (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/cummings-raskin-voting-rights-probe-republicans-question), saying that “With a Democratic President, there was no allegation too small to investigate,

but now that Donald Trump is in the White House, there is apparently no scandal too big to ignore.”

Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin, the chair of the civil rights subcommittee carrying out the investigations into

voter suppression in Kansas, Texas, and Georgia,

likewise pushed back, citing a “solemn duty” to investigate “state-based assaults on popular democracy like the reported purges of hundreds of thousands of voters and the relocation of municipal polling places outside of municipal boundaries.”

And that solemn duty is absolutely within the committee’s rights, Raskin said:

“It is obviously within our power under the Supremacy Clause and the Bill of Rights to conduct constitutional oversight in order to protect voters’ rights in the states, resistance by partisan state officials notwithstanding.”

This isn't the first time (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/9/1848955/-House-Republicans-urge-drug-companies-to-refuse-to-comply-in-drug-price-investigations) House Republicans have tried to get the subjects of Democratic investigations to stonewall. They’ve also been

sending letters to drug companies suggesting they not comply with information requests on prescription drug prices.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1850750 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1850750)

[boutons_deux]

FL :lol countering the will of Floridians :lol to allow felons to vote

Florida House Approves Requiring People To Repay Criminal Fines, Fees Before They Can Vote

Critics say the legislation amounts to a poll tax and

violates a constitutional amendment

that voters overwhelmingly approved in November

to allow people with felonies to vote.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-felon-disenfranchisement-poll-tax_n_5cc1106ae4b01b6b3efc6ebe (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-felon-disenfranchisement-poll-tax_n_5cc1106ae4b01b6b3efc6ebe)

May all the FL Repug reps keep pet cassowary birds

[boutons_deux]

Originalism bad now.

originalism, textualism is used by SCOTUS5 only when it suits their political rulings

[boutons_deux]

https://2vwlfu3ynqxb3npfhm3m8lde-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/miichigan-map3.jpg

A Big Win For Democrats As Republican Gerrymandered Map Struck Down In Michigan

A Republican-drawn gerrymandered map of Michigan has been struck down as a violation of federal law because it was designed to hurt Democrats.

The court also found that

the gerrymandered map impacted 34 state House seats and 10 State seats.

The court ordered that no more elections be held under the current map and that the districts must be redrawn

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04/25/a-big-win-for-democrats-as-republican-gerrymandered-map-struck-down-in-michigan.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04/25/a-big-win-for-democrats-as-republican-gerrymandered-map-struck-down-in-michigan.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[Winehole23]

1121889772581134336

[Pavlov]

1121889772581134336:lol Texas gubmit

I hear they're taking on fairness in social media next!

https://media.giphy.com/media/32V6UqfX4ffHO/giphy.gif

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1123200585577136128

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1123200585577136128
Glad he was caught.

I missed your coverage on NC9, Qhris.

What happened?

[Winehole23]

Well, not fraud, but that suppression thingie... I mean, are we ever going to hear the GOP actually enabled more people to vote?


Florida felon voting rights imperiled amid GOP opposition

TALLAHASSEE — Florida's Republican-controlled Legislature is moving to roll back parts of a historic November constitutional amendment that reinstated voting rights for convicted felons, drawing sharp opposition from Democrats in a key 2020 presidential battleground.

A bill that would limit voting rights that ex-offenders gained under the ballot measure cleared its first stop in a Republican-controlled Florida House committee on a party-line vote Tuesday, and the president of the state Senate said he expects his chamber to draw up a companion measure.

Democrats and others condemned the move, likening the legislation to a poll tax imposed on African-Americans during the Jim Crow era.

“Today we saw the politicization of Amendment 4,” said Neil Volz, political director with the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition, which pushed the voting rights initiative onto last year’s ballot. “When partisan politics gets involved, the people lose.”

At stake are the voting rights of more than a million Floridians — and possibly the U.S. presidency. The legislative battle is a reminder of the high political stakes in Florida, where voters backed both Barack Obama and Donald Trump in recent presidential elections. The marquee races in last year’s elections, U.S. Senate and governor, were so tight that both were forced into recounts.

In the Statehouse, top Republicans, including Gov. Ron DeSantis, say the amendment that voters approved was ambiguous and that it’s appropriate to spell out how the measure is supposed to be carried out.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/03/19/felon-vote-sparks-battle-for-florida-as-gop-moves-to-define-rights-921875Seems to fly in the teeth of Harper v.Virginia State Board of Elections.


We conclude that a State violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment whenever it makes the affluence of the voter or payment of any fee an electoral standard. Voter qualifications have no relation to wealth nor to paying or not paying this or any other taxhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/383/663

[RandomGuy]

Glad he was caught.

I missed your coverage on NC9, Qhris.

What happened?

I see you found your login. :lol

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1123200585577136128

Would this fraud be prevented by voter ID?


:rollin

[Winehole23]

None of the types of election fraud Chris has posted about ITT -- apart from the myth of massive, widespread voter impersonation by immigrants -- would be prevented by voter ID laws.

[Winehole23]

20 years of indoctrination starting with Hans von Spakovsky during GWB have created a popular myth. That voter impersonation is a threat to elections, and that central americans are to blame.

[Winehole23]

Ballot fraud alleged in VA-02:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/prosecutor-proof-of-election-fraud-in-us-house-race-in-va/ar-AAAZ0Ba?ocid=News

[RandomGuy]

None of the types of election fraud Chris has posted about ITT -- apart from the myth of massive, widespread voter impersonation by immigrants -- would be prevented by voter ID laws.

20 years of indoctrination starting with Hans von Spakovsky during GWB have created a popular myth. That voter impersonation is a threat to elections, and that central americans are to blame.



Of course not. If there were some kind of real fraud, it would be all over Fox News 24/7, just like the Scary Brown People coverage.

A bit sad to think there are so many like Chris who are so patently brainwashed.

[RandomGuy]

Ballot fraud alleged in VA-02:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/prosecutor-proof-of-election-fraud-in-us-house-race-in-va/ar-AAAZ0Ba?ocid=News


NORFOLK, Va. — A special prosecutor in Virginia says he's presented two indictments of election fraud against a person who worked on a Republican congressman's doomed re-election campaign.

Lol Chris

[boutons_deux]

Shithole Texas GOP votes to make voter-registration mistakes a felony in new suppression push

Texas State Senate approved a bill that would impose new draconian criminal penalties on people who

make mistakes on their voter registration forms or

who help others vote.

the bill would make it a felony punishable by up to two years in jail to make a mistake on a voter registration form.

Sen. Bryan Hughes, who authored the bill, said that the measure is aimed at stopping illegal voters from casting ballots. :lol

Senate Bill 9 would also bar anyone from helping a voter unless they fill out a form listing their relationship to the voter and why the assistance is necessary.

would also require anyone who drives at least three voters to a polling place and requests curbside voting to sign a form swearing that the voters are not physically able to enter the polling place.

Those who vote by mail because of a disability will also be required to submit a form confirming their inability to physically enter a polling place.

the bill “continues this state’s sad history of voter intimidation and disenfranchisement.” aka 21st century Jaime Cuervo

another provision in the bill, which would bar anyone from impeding walkways, sidewalks or roadways within 1,000 feet of a polling place is aimed at punishing groups like his.

“People who make innocent mistakes concerning their eligibility to vote will be sentenced to felony jail time, even if they only filled out a provisional ballot,”

Republicans had approved “another voter suppression bill.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/texas-gop-votes-to-make-voter-registration-mistakes-a-felony-in-new-suppression-push/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/OliverMcGee/status/1129423353838755840

[spurraider21]

oh wow that guy has PhD and MBA so he must be right on everything

[Winehole23]

No cites, no sources, I'm convinced!

[boutons_deux]

now a TX state felony to make a mistake on voting registration form

brutal intimidation ( if target victim knows the law)

[koriwhat]

now a TX state felony to make a mistake on voting registration form

brutal intimidation ( if target victim knows the law)

if you're going to make a mistake on a form with less than 10 things to fill out then you deserve the felony for being a fucking retard trying to vote in the first place. hyperbole is all you got crazy cat lady bouts.

[boutons_deux]

Voting Rights Roundup: Michigan GOP attempts to sabotage redistricting reform by withholding funding (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/17/1858473/-Voting-Rights-Roundup-Michigan-GOP-attempts-to-sabotage-redistricting-reform-by-withholding-funding)

Michigan: Michigan voters overwhelmingly approved a ballot initiative last year

to amend their state constitution and create an independent redistricting commission (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/11/6/1810566/-Michigan-voters-ban-GOP-gerrymandering-by-creating-an-independent-redistricting-commission),

but Republican legislators are doing everything they can to undermine the new law.​

Republican legislators passed a budget out of a House subcommittee (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/14/redistricting-money-would-transferred-legislature-under-bill/3668687002/) that

takes aim at the funding for not only the commission but also the offices of the attorney general and secretary of state.
Those two posts had long been in GOP hands but are now under attack following a Democratic sweep last year.

The Republican budget starts by

slashing the attorney general's administrative budget by 15% and

allowing legislators to usurp control over the commission's budget from the secretary of state's office.

... etc.

Good roundup, non-cancer-causing, of what's many states are doing about voting, good and bad

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1858473 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1858473)

[Winehole23]

Texas Lege adjourns sine die, no special session.

Texas Secretary of State David Whitley saw the writing on the wall and resigned about 15 minutes before that.

So disgraced himself with his incompetent " voter watch list" that not even Texas Republicans could bring themselves to schedule a vote to confirm him.

Good riddance to smelly garbage.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Lege adjourns sine die, no special session.

Texas Secretary of State David Whitley saw the writing on the wall and resigned about 15 minutes before that.

So disgraced himself with his incompetent " voter watch list" that not even Texas Republicans could bring themselves to schedule a vote to confirm him.

Good riddance to smelly garbage.

Texas is still a smelly, toxic shit hole

[boutons_deux]

CNN’s Jake Tapper busts Trump for supporting botched GOP effort to illegally purge Texas voters



Jake Tapper points out (https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1133342385696587778) that Whitley had some high-level encouragement from President Donald Trump for his botched campaign to purge voters.

“58,000 non-citizens voted in Texas, with 95,000 non-citizens registered to vote,”

Trump wrote in a tweet this past January, just after Whitley made his announcement.

“These numbers are just the tip of the iceberg.

All over the country, especially in California, voter fraud is rampant.

Must be stopped.

Strong voter ID!”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/cnns-jake-tapper-busts-trump-for-supporting-botched-gop-effort-to-illegally-purge-texas-voters/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=245 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/cnns-jake-tapper-busts-trump-for-supporting-botched-gop-effort-to-illegally-purge-texas-voters/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=245)

If Trash wins in 2020, there won't be an election in 2024

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/OliverMcGee/status/1129423353838755840

It must be true, Chris read it on twitter. :rollin

Feel free to provide some evidence of your purple pixies.

You should give it to Chris Kolbach, maybe he won't get laughed out of court again.. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Winehole23]

https://pics.me.me/just-because-youre-trash-doesnt-mean-you-cant-do-great-11287295.png

(https://me.me/market?s=pop)

[Spurminator]

1133376019895857152

If conservatives applied 1/100th of their climate science skepticism to claims of mass voter fraud, democracy would be in a much better place.

Truth is, they feel the ends justify the means. When conservatives are in power and can suppress the vote to maintain it, this is acceptable. Sad.

[Winehole23]

Or, like others have said ITT, the Republicans do it because it's smart. Minority rule doesn't happen as readlily without gerrymandering, voter suppression and the Electoral College.

[Winehole23]

voter ID law in action:

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/Former-San-Antonio-mayor-Lila-Cockrell-turned-13906697.php

[Winehole23]

Looks like Gov. Abbott pushed for the voter probe that scuttled SOS nominee David Whitley's confirmation.


Whitley, Abbott's deputy chief of staff before the governor appointed him as secretary of state in December, was recently hired back by Abbott to serve as a special adviser to the governor.https://www.statesman.com/news/20190604/dps-emails-say-governor-pushed-for-voter-probe-not-true-abbott-says

[boutons_deux]

Shitbag Repugs doing shitty stuff in shithole Texas

Texas officials knew voter purge attempt used flawed data,

but governor's office pushed the issue
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1862797 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1862797)

[boutons_deux]

Repug shitbags as full of shit as ever

Texas ditched its botched voter roll review but has signaled it hasn't closed its criminal inquiry

State officials continue to deny public access to the list of 100,000 voters selected for citizenship checks, citing a section of state law that allows them to withhold the information if it's part of a pending criminal review.

it appears that the state’s top prosecutor, who boasted his office would “spare no effort in assisting with these troubling cases,” has not. (... stopped his work)

Paxton's office has indicated it is keeping open the criminal investigation file it initiated based on the secretary of state’s referral.

“Our office has made ensuring the integrity of our elections a top priority and continue to do so,” :lol

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/05/texas-indicates-criminal-inquiry-over-voter-roll-review-isnt-closed/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/05/texas-indicates-criminal-inquiry-over-voter-roll-review-isnt-closed/)

[Winehole23]

Shitbag Repugs doing shitty stuff in shithole Texas

Texas officials knew voter purge attempt used flawed data,

but governor's office pushed the issue
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1862797 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1862797)












it's amazing to me how often you repost a story I posted -- in the very next post

[boutons_deux]

When I voted early in the SA mayoral runoff, there was nobody around, and the elections lady really wanted to show how the next voting system works.

Totally surprised, I was shown that there is paper trace

you vote on one machine, with the electronic confirmation,

it spits out your ballot for another confirmation,

then you walk the paper to another machine and insert your verified ballot.

In the case of recount using the paper ballots, I assume the ballots are machine readable, so the TX shitbag Repugs will still have an opportunity to queer the paper ballot reader.

[boutons_deux]

Florida GOP's poll tax could cost billions for voters who've served their felony sentences (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/7/1863395/-Report-Florida-GOP-s-poll-tax-could-cost-billions-for-voters-who-ve-served-their-felony-sentences)

DeSantis poised to sign (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/17/1858473/-Voting-Rights-Roundup-Michigan-GOP-attempts-to-sabotage-redistricting-reform-by-withholding-funding#17) a bill that effectively imposes a poll tax on voters who have completed their felony sentences,

a new analysis shows just how consequential that poll tax could be.between just October 2017 and September 2018,

courts statewide imposed in excess of $1 billion in fines (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-felony-fines-broward-palm-beach-20190531-5hxf7mveyree5cjhk4xr7b73v4-story.html) and other financial penalties for felony convictions.

The GOP's bill (https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/7066) requires citizens who have fully served their sentences to

pay off not only court-ordered restitution to crime victims but also all court-related fines and fees to regain their voting rights.

Broward, Palm Beach, and Miami-Dade Counties in Southeast Florida. ...

there is at least $1 billion more in outstanding payments, and even that data is incomplete (for instance, Miami-Dade's records only go back to the year 2000).

these figures show that the outstanding total in fines and fees is staggeringly high and may be insurmountable for a significant number of
voters.

Floridians voted nearly 2-to-1 in 2018 to end the lifetime ban on voting for people with felony convictions,

but the GOP's poll tax is poised

to keep potentially hundreds of thousands of citizens effectively disenfranchised for life (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/5/3/1855208/-Embracing-Jim-Crow-era-rules-Florida-GOP-passes-poll-tax-that-could-ban-up-to-1-million-from-voting)

because they're too poor to pay predatory fees (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-amendment-4-florida-passage-20190424-story.html).

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1863395 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1863395)

:lol Assholes here think America is a democracy, where citizens' votes count! :lol

De Santis and how many Florida govt shitbags gonna be voted out of office for say "fuck you" to voters?

No penalty for doing it, so they will keep doing it and worse.

[Winehole23]

GOP working hard to suppress voting, even against a successful popular referendum seeking to expand it?

Sounds about right.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1138216547393114114

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1138216547393114114And how many fraudulent votes from them, Qhris?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1139704445401354240?s=19

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1139704445401354240?s=19lol no

[spurraider21]

:lmao charlie kirk

[Pavlov]

:lmao charlie kirk:lmao duped by a Facebook post
:lmao getting challenged for credit on a fake news tweet by another douche
1139707356135198721

[Winehole23]

It's an intrinsic flaw of journalistic coverage that someone else's absolutely made up fucking bullshit, is newsworthy first of all because it was controversial/noticed the first time around, and second of all when it is cynically redirected, with heavy topspin, to the relevant political niches.