Temple of Austin Daye

[kjhip1]

Already addressed. Try to keep up.

My points stand.



Not completely ignore, but certainly take with a very large grain of salt. The Sixers are an historically bad team.

Right. The sixers are historically bad. I really can't see pop even entertaining the thought of using day in POs unless it's a situational point in a game. Btw stromile swift, what a waste... I lived in bossier city/Shreveport for 5 years where people thought he would make it big. Spurs have been very good at getting the most out of players. If anything Daye has accepted what he needs to do to get on the floor and looks to be an awesome teammate. Hope for the best next year.

[El CaPiTaN809]

I'm pulling for the kid tbh. He's extremely fortunate to be with the one team that can turn him into Matt Bonner 2.0. The makeup of the roster and contracts situation give him an ideal opportunity to be able to translate his 1 NBA level skill into a lucrative 10 year career just like Matty did.


i really do hope this guy is frye jr..it would make us unstoppable

[ceperez]

i really do hope this guy is frye jr..it would make us unstoppable

That's what I hope for too! Daye appears to being used for end of the game plays. He was inserted in the game twice.

First time was in the end of the 1st quarter. He drove to the basket and then passed to nobody. Not sure if he has the green light to do that.

Second time was in the end of the 2nd quarter. He spaced the floor with Danny Green. Parker had too options, pass to Green or Daye. Green took the shot.



If all Daye ever does this season is to play in special situations and making uncontested 3 point attempts, then I would consider that a success.

[ChumpDumper]

His relative sloth was really exposed by Denver.

[FireMicoHalili]

Spurs fans are fucking delusional, dude had 1 good game and know he's the 2nd coming of Dirk? gtfo, dude was traded for de colo for a reason. He will be a decent bench player at best.

[littlecoyotecoin]

His relative sloth was really exposed by Denver.

Daye joined the shoot-around ten minutes late, for some reason. I was thinking Erler got it right, and maybe he would sit the bench for some Popish reason, I was even looking for him in a suit behind the bench, but was on the other side of the arena. Could not make out much.

Daye didn't have a good game, if you can call two minutes a game.

You will have to explain how he was "exposed" during those two minutes. I was at the game. He played all of 2:08 minutes. The first time he came in, I seem to remember there were all of 14 seconds left in the quarter and we were on offense. He was involved in about 4 plays, some coming out of time outs, at end of quarters, like Bonner is sometimes used, to stretch the floor and/or get an open look at a three to close the quarter.

He had about a 10 footer that he missed. He came on court during half-time and shot from the position that he missed from about 2-4 times, getting the ball-boy to pass him a couple balls until he made a few from that place on the court. Then he went down to the other end and joined the team.

He took an open three, that missed.

He got the ball late on another three point attempt, and went right around the defender that was coming out to him...got underneath the basket with ease from the 3-point arc, and made a poor attempt at a pass underneath the rim that was stolen. I wish he would have shot the ball, but he has been an adept passer, thus far, and I don't second guess his decision in the moment. A shot, or a better pass would have been a better choice, in retrospect, of course.

He had a defensive set where he bit on an up-fake, and came down on top of the offensive player, from what I could see from my end. Personal foul, Austin Daye.

Those possessions at up a significant portion of his 2:08 minutes of play. I would guess 1:30 minutes.

The offensive drive to the basket, when he made the bad pass, showed plenty of quickness.

What other plays, that could only constitute 30-60 seconds, could he have been exposed on? Denver made their biggest run with our starters in the (during the third and fourth quarters - Austin was not on the floor at all during this time) game fumbling away the ball with 21 turnovers on the night and lots of missed shots up close...again, there is only about 30-60 seconds of time remaining where he could have been "exposed" outside of the plays I have mentioned above...which weren't great, but didn't really "expose" him.

He bit on an up-fake. He's shown some shot-blocking ability. Lots of shot blockers sometimes bite on an up-fake. Every Spur has. Unfortunate, hardly an "exposing". And, he missed some shots, but we know he can shoot. It's a strength. So, missing two shots can hardly be called an "exposing".

I have about 30-60 seconds of unaccounted for missed time that I can't remember off the top of my head. That must be where he was exposed? He MAY have given up a layup, but I don't really remember any other plays that he was involved in. And, I am obviously not trying to ignore the bad play, because in his two minutes, he really didn't have ANY good plays. They were all bad. My question, if you can come up with some tremendous "exposition" that occurred during that 30-60 second time frame is: Can a person be exposed in 30-60 seconds even if he plays like total shit? Really? The whole team played like shit in the second half. I think I am going to give him a pass on that 30-60 seconds even if you can illustrate what defenses lapses he had for those 30-60 seconds I don't recall anything significant happening. Maybe I missed some big stuff.

But, I doubt that illustration is forthcoming.

Truth is, he almost didn't play at all.

[hater]

hes Dirk 2.0 Ultimate Edition bitches

neal with that shit

[littlecoyotecoin]

"...2nd coming of Dirk?"

Again, no one is saying this. Names of people that have said this? Dates they've said it? Times? Links? Anything. This is the digital age. If so many people are saying this, it should be easy to root them out. Truth is, really no one is saying this. Most people are saying the obvious thing you point out at the end. But, you state the obvious, again. Yes, his most likely optimistic scenario is that he could become a bench player for us. As a matter of fact, no one is even arguing that he is going to displace any starters, much less displace them with such upside as "Dirk" caliber play. I have enjoyed reading about him, as he was our only trade, so I've read just about everything written about him, and I can't say that I have seen anyone with that sort of expectation...much less a large contingent of people.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Hey, CE...wassup...

"...then passed to nobody."

People on the wrong team are somebodies! :toast

[ChumpDumper]

Daye joined the shoot-around ten minutes late, for some reason. I was thinking Erler got it right, and maybe he would sit the bench for some Popish reason, I was even looking for him in a suit behind the bench, but was on the other side of the arena. Could not make out much.

Daye didn't have a good game, if you can call two minutes a game.

You will have to explain how he was "exposed" during those two minutes. I was at the game. He played all of 2:08 minutes. The first time he came in, I seem to remember there were all of 14 seconds left in the quarter and we were on offense. He was involved in about 4 plays, some coming out of time outs, at end of quarters, like Bonner is sometimes used, to stretch the floor and/or get an open look at a three to close the quarter.

He had about a 10 footer that he missed. He came on court during half-time and shot from the position that he missed from about 2-4 times, getting the ball-boy to pass him a couple balls until he made a few from that place on the court. Then he went down to the other end and joined the team.

He took an open three, that missed.

He got the ball late on another three point attempt, and went right around the defender that was coming out to him...got underneath the basket with ease from the 3-point arc, and made a poor attempt at a pass underneath the rim that was stolen. I wish he would have shot the ball, but he has been an adept passer, thus far, and I don't second guess his decision in the moment. A shot, or a better pass would have been a better choice, in retrospect, of course.

He had a defensive set where he bit on an up-fake, and came down on top of the offensive player, from what I could see from my end. Personal foul, Austin Daye.

Those possessions at up a significant portion of his 2:08 minutes of play. I would guess 1:30 minutes.

The offensive drive to the basket, when he made the bad pass, showed plenty of quickness.

What other plays, that could only constitute 30-60 seconds, could he have been exposed on? Denver made their biggest run with our starters in the (during the third and fourth quarters - Austin was not on the floor at all during this time) game fumbling away the ball with 21 turnovers on the night and lots of missed shots up close...again, there is only about 30-60 seconds of time remaining where he could have been "exposed" outside of the plays I have mentioned above...which weren't great, but didn't really "expose" him.

He bit on an up-fake. He's shown some shot-blocking ability. Lots of shot blockers sometimes bite on an up-fake. Every Spur has. Unfortunate, hardly an "exposing". And, he missed some shots, but we know he can shoot. It's a strength. So, missing two shots can hardly be called an "exposing".

I have about 30-60 seconds of unaccounted for missed time that I can't remember off the top of my head. That must be where he was exposed? He MAY have given up a layup, but I don't really remember any other plays that he was involved in. And, I am obviously not trying to ignore the bad play, because in his two minutes, he really didn't have ANY good plays. They were all bad. My question, if you can come up with some tremendous "exposition" that occurred during that 30-60 second time frame is: Can a person be exposed in 30-60 seconds even if he plays like total shit? Really? The whole team played like shit in the second half. I think I am going to give him a pass on that 30-60 seconds even if you can illustrate what defenses lapses he had for those 30-60 seconds I don't recall anything significant happening. Maybe I missed some big stuff.

But, I doubt that illustration is forthcoming.

Truth is, he almost didn't play at all.There's a reason he almost didn't play at all.

Look, I like the guy. I think he can be a part of the team -- but he's slow. That's all. It's not a deal breaker.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Palangi, I must agree. Some of his other posts seem reasonable. But, he is in a kerfuffle, here. He does have a strange definition of the word SPAM, too. Not how the word was derived, or has been traditionally used since the internet's nascency. But, he gets to make the rules, apparently. While not SPAM, my posts may be a little repetitive. They would not sound so repetitive if there weren't wave after wave of people saying similar unfounded things showing up in the thread every day. There were two more, today, claiming we are all claiming Daye is the next "Dirk", etc.

He calls me intellectually dishonest and insufferable, then can't defend those statements where he claims that people are calling Daye a Durant "STOPPER" and the next "Durant". He knows that people aren't saying that. He knows that it is intellectually dishonest to claim that. Granted, given his history with SPAM, he may be operating under a different definition of the word "intellectually dishonest", maybe a definition where the definition is equivalent to the definition of "intellectually honest" in our world. He can't give names, dates, times, and links to where people were saying those things, even when asked twice, he just ignores it. He can't admit to intellectual dishonesty just after accusing me of it.

For the record, I will reserve the right to quote him if it is relevant in a conversation. I wouldn't want to paint myself into any corners. And, he can call me names as retribution, I guess...I'm good.

Also, you were right, though, thank you. I didn't mention anyone by name. ABC pointed out that my summary of the negative criticisms of Daye's defense wasn't a direct quote. ABC was right. No one had said exactly that...I was just answering ABC and providing footnotes as evidence of what had been said, and that I agreed, it was not a direct quote, but a summary of those things. It was a weird request...he didn't want me to quote him saying bad things about Daye?

I would think the most sure-fire way of not having people quote you saying bad things about Daye, is not say bad things about Daye? Am I weird? Otherwise, I think it's fair game to quote it. Same goes with the numbers. I am pretty sure if some other guy can post links to Melissa engaged in sexual activity, I can quote a post about Daye? I don't think that's ban-able, is it?

And, I quoted everyone. I didn't single him out, by quote, much less by name. He was still clearly sour over our previous exchange, which was relatively polite. I even ceded a point or two to him. I made an error in reading, about a PER 36 comment, and apologized.

The fact that Durant's numbers, the ones he claimed were the lynch pin in showing Daye could not play defense at an acceptable level, were so damn close to Daye's it's uncanny? That fact probably didn't help him warm up to me any. And, they have similar body types and positions...3/4 tweeners. You won't find Durant banging in the low post, either. And, he's a starter. We're just looking at a bench guy with those numbers. But, heck, proves the point that those numbers alone are nothing to preclude Daye from being a starter, either. Or, an All-Star, for that matter, or maybe even, arguably, the best player in the NBA. They didn't hinder Durant from those discussions. Of course, that is not to say that Daye will be a starter, an All-Star, or, arguably, the best player in the NBA, but you KNOW I'll be accused of saying that a week from now. :lol

Anyway, I get it. He doesn't want to discuss point for point. He wants to make claims that we aren't allowed to refute, and he doesn't like me. I'm good.

:toast, cheers, Pal.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I agree, he's slow. That's been quite a topic of discussion. His lane agility time is only slightly faster than Kevin Durant's, and Durant's is slow. And, his 3/4 sprint time is only 10/100 of a second slower than Kevin Durant's sprint time. And, Kawhi's and Danny Green's lane agility times are pretty slow, too. They're all pretty slow. That's established, and I agree with you. That is not the equivalent of saying that their times are too slow for them to be successful defending in the NBA, the three others mentioned do a fine job.

My question was not: Is Daye fast?

It was, in that 30-60 seconds that I can't account for off of the top of my head, where did Denver "expose" him, last night? That was your claim. Because he wasn't "exposed" in the 1:00-1:30 that I have accounted for. And, a follow-up question is, if someone is exposed for 30-60 seconds, is that definitive? I can answer the second one for myself. If so, the whole Spurs team was exposed for 20 minutes of the second half. I don't believe it is definitive. But, the illustration never manifested itself, because I don't believe it occurred.

[Chinook]

Looks like Pop is running Daye in the Bonner role, which makes sense with Matt out. That's probably about where he should be. With LJC not coming over next year, Daye has a legitimate chance to stay on as the fifth or sixth forward. Whether he gets into the regular rotation will depend on his ability to defend the four at least as well as Bonner can. Tall order as far as post defense goes, a possible improvement as far as rim protection goes.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I agree, he's slow. That's been quite a topic of discussion. His lane agility time is only slightly faster than Kevin Durant's, and Durant's is slow. And, his 3/4 sprint time is only 10/100 of a second slower than Kevin Durant's sprint time. And, Kawhi's and Danny Green's lane agility times are pretty slow, too. They're all pretty slow. That's established, and I agree with you. That is not the equivalent of saying that their times are too slow for them to be successful defending in the NBA, the three others mentioned do a fine job.

My question was not: Is Daye fast?

It was, in that 30-60 seconds that I can't account for off of the top of my head, where did Denver "expose" him, last night? That was your claim. Because he wasn't "exposed" in the 1:00-1:30 that I have accounted for. And, a follow-up question is, if someone is exposed for 30-60 seconds, is that definitive? I can answer the second one for myself. If so, the whole Spurs team was exposed for 20 minutes of the second half. I don't believe it is definitive. But, the illustration never manifested itself, because I don't believe it occurred.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Also, something I wanted to mention, but got caught having to actually work, was that THE KID HAS NOT BEEN PLAYING BASKETBALL. Baynes has made himself infamous for getting winded and he is playing fairly regularly in comparison to Daye. I am sure the kid is NOT in game shape, so that may account for some of the "eye-test" slowness that is being attributed to him. I don't know.

[exstatic]

I agree, he's slow. That's been quite a topic of discussion. His lane agility time is only slightly faster than Kevin Durant's, and Durant's is slow. And, his 3/4 sprint time is only 10/100 of a second slower than Kevin Durant's sprint time. And, Kawhi's and Danny Green's lane agility times are pretty slow, too. They're all pretty slow. That's established, and I agree with you. That is not the equivalent of saying that their times are too slow for them to be successful defending in the NBA, the three others mentioned do a fine job.

My question was not: Is Daye fast?

It was, in that 30-60 seconds that I can't account for off of the top of my head, where did Denver "expose" him, last night? That was your claim. Because he wasn't "exposed" in the 1:00-1:30 that I have accounted for. And, a follow-up question is, if someone is exposed for 30-60 seconds, is that definitive? I can answer the second one for myself. If so, the whole Spurs team was exposed for 20 minutes of the second half. I don't believe it is definitive. But, the illustration never manifested itself, because I don't believe it occurred.

OK. When you drop an identical long winded boring post twice, an hour and a half apart, it's obviously not a double post. That is officially spamming.

[littlecoyotecoin]

No, that's a response A DIFFERENT PERSON with a similar misguided claim. If people stop making unsupported hyperbolic claims, and then I guess problem solved!

By the way, Chinook already called me a spammer, so you calling me a spammer, isn't that a little bit like an identical post? Stop spamming the board Spammer McSpamster. Spam was traditionally referred to with regard to advertising. I'm not advertising. I am not Daye's PR guy. I guess you can create a new definition to include repetitive conversations you don't want to hear, if that's the case, every thread about jersey changes, Amused injuring people, twss, tbh, and hyperbolic posts about how lame Tiago is because he got blocked is spam, under that definition. I get tired of reading that shit, too. But, what I don't do is whine about it.

I don't cloud other threads with this; I limit it just to the people that are initiating conversation, a lot of it, poorly thought out.

[benefactor]

Daye joined the shoot-around ten minutes late, for some reason. I was thinking Erler got it right, and maybe he would sit the bench for some Popish reason, I was even looking for him in a suit behind the bench, but was on the other side of the arena. Could not make out much.

Daye didn't have a good game, if you can call two minutes a game.

You will have to explain how he was "exposed" during those two minutes. I was at the game. He played all of 2:08 minutes. The first time he came in, I seem to remember there were all of 14 seconds left in the quarter and we were on offense. He was involved in about 4 plays, some coming out of time outs, at end of quarters, like Bonner is sometimes used, to stretch the floor and/or get an open look at a three to close the quarter.

He had about a 10 footer that he missed. He came on court during half-time and shot from the position that he missed from about 2-4 times, getting the ball-boy to pass him a couple balls until he made a few from that place on the court. Then he went down to the other end and joined the team.

He took an open three, that missed.

He got the ball late on another three point attempt, and went right around the defender that was coming out to him...got underneath the basket with ease from the 3-point arc, and made a poor attempt at a pass underneath the rim that was stolen. I wish he would have shot the ball, but he has been an adept passer, thus far, and I don't second guess his decision in the moment. A shot, or a better pass would have been a better choice, in retrospect, of course.

He had a defensive set where he bit on an up-fake, and came down on top of the offensive player, from what I could see from my end. Personal foul, Austin Daye.

Those possessions at up a significant portion of his 2:08 minutes of play. I would guess 1:30 minutes.

The offensive drive to the basket, when he made the bad pass, showed plenty of quickness.

What other plays, that could only constitute 30-60 seconds, could he have been exposed on? Denver made their biggest run with our starters in the (during the third and fourth quarters - Austin was not on the floor at all during this time) game fumbling away the ball with 21 turnovers on the night and lots of missed shots up close...again, there is only about 30-60 seconds of time remaining where he could have been "exposed" outside of the plays I have mentioned above...which weren't great, but didn't really "expose" him.

He bit on an up-fake. He's shown some shot-blocking ability. Lots of shot blockers sometimes bite on an up-fake. Every Spur has. Unfortunate, hardly an "exposing". And, he missed some shots, but we know he can shoot. It's a strength. So, missing two shots can hardly be called an "exposing".

I have about 30-60 seconds of unaccounted for missed time that I can't remember off the top of my head. That must be where he was exposed? He MAY have given up a layup, but I don't really remember any other plays that he was involved in. And, I am obviously not trying to ignore the bad play, because in his two minutes, he really didn't have ANY good plays. They were all bad. My question, if you can come up with some tremendous "exposition" that occurred during that 30-60 second time frame is: Can a person be exposed in 30-60 seconds even if he plays like total shit? Really? The whole team played like shit in the second half. I think I am going to give him a pass on that 30-60 seconds even if you can illustrate what defenses lapses he had for those 30-60 seconds I don't recall anything significant happening. Maybe I missed some big stuff.

But, I doubt that illustration is forthcoming.

Truth is, he almost didn't play at all.

Palangi, I must agree. Some of his other posts seem reasonable. But, he is in a kerfuffle, here. He does have a strange definition of the word SPAM, too. Not how the word was derived, or has been traditionally used since the internet's nascency. But, he gets to make the rules, apparently. While not SPAM, my posts may be a little repetitive. They would not sound so repetitive if there weren't wave after wave of people saying similar unfounded things showing up in the thread every day. There were two more, today, claiming we are all claiming Daye is the next "Dirk", etc.

He calls me intellectually dishonest and insufferable, then can't defend those statements where he claims that people are calling Daye a Durant "STOPPER" and the next "Durant". He knows that people aren't saying that. He knows that it is intellectually dishonest to claim that. Granted, given his history with SPAM, he may be operating under a different definition of the word "intellectually dishonest", maybe a definition where the definition is equivalent to the definition of "intellectually honest" in our world. He can't give names, dates, times, and links to where people were saying those things, even when asked twice, he just ignores it. He can't admit to intellectual dishonesty just after accusing me of it.

For the record, I will reserve the right to quote him if it is relevant in a conversation. I wouldn't want to paint myself into any corners. And, he can call me names as retribution, I guess...I'm good.

Also, you were right, though, thank you. I didn't mention anyone by name. ABC pointed out that my summary of the negative criticisms of Daye's defense wasn't a direct quote. ABC was right. No one had said exactly that...I was just answering ABC and providing footnotes as evidence of what had been said, and that I agreed, it was not a direct quote, but a summary of those things. It was a weird request...he didn't want me to quote him saying bad things about Daye?

I would think the most sure-fire way of not having people quote you saying bad things about Daye, is not say bad things about Daye? Am I weird? Otherwise, I think it's fair game to quote it. Same goes with the numbers. I am pretty sure if some other guy can post links to Melissa engaged in sexual activity, I can quote a post about Daye? I don't think that's ban-able, is it?

And, I quoted everyone. I didn't single him out, by quote, much less by name. He was still clearly sour over our previous exchange, which was relatively polite. I even ceded a point or two to him. I made an error in reading, about a PER 36 comment, and apologized.

The fact that Durant's numbers, the ones he claimed were the lynch pin in showing Daye could not play defense at an acceptable level, were so damn close to Daye's it's uncanny? That fact probably didn't help him warm up to me any. And, they have similar body types and positions...3/4 tweeners. You won't find Durant banging in the low post, either. And, he's a starter. We're just looking at a bench guy with those numbers. But, heck, proves the point that those numbers alone are nothing to preclude Daye from being a starter, either. Or, an All-Star, for that matter, or maybe even, arguably, the best player in the NBA. They didn't hinder Durant from those discussions. Of course, that is not to say that Daye will be a starter, an All-Star, or, arguably, the best player in the NBA, but you KNOW I'll be accused of saying that a week from now. :lol

Anyway, I get it. He doesn't want to discuss point for point. He wants to make claims that we aren't allowed to refute, and he doesn't like me. I'm good.

:toast, cheers, Pal.
http://matthewlpowers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tldr.jpg

[Chinook]

^Pretty much.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I apologize, I do see where that was double posted, however, not intentionally, and I will not lose any sleep when the mods correct that error. I have never seen my posts duplicated before, not to say they haven't, but I never saw it before. It can't be such a common occurrence that calling it spam is appropriate.

[ElNono]

I apologize, I do see where that was double posted, however, not intentionally, and I will not lose any sleep when the mods correct that error. I have never seen my posts duplicated before, not to say they haven't, but I never saw it before. It can't be such a common occurrence that calling it spam is appropriate.

what mods? :lol

[littlecoyotecoin]

LMAO, complaining that it's too long, and then reposting it all, after bitching about it being posted too much...I would post a circular logic epic fail .gif, but it would make this post longer.

[benefactor]

LMAO, complaining that it's too long, and then reposting it all, after bitching about it being posted too much...I would post a circular logic epic fail .gif, but it would make this post longer.
Now, I'm gonna open my fly and you're gonna swallow what I give ya to swallow.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Now, I'm gonna open my fly and you're gonna swallow what I give ya to swallow.

Well, introducing that would keep things appropriately short in here.

[benefactor]

Took you better than half an hour to come up with that? Perhaps you should have left that one on the cutting board.

[RD2191]

Well, introducing that would keep things appropriately short in here.

:lmao

[RD2191]

Benefagtor getting shat on.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Took you better than half an hour to come up with that? Perhaps you should have left that one on the cutting board.

Commuted across town, but explaining the space-time continuum to you may prove impossible.

[ceperez]

I'll accept the overall conclusion here.... he's slow.

However, I would say that Duncan is equally slow.

My expectation is that he'll be the Spurs 10th or 11th best player.

Given that, it was a very good trade. De Colo's shot was not improving nor his ability to finish at the Basket.

I've never liked Bonner's ability (or lack of) to spread the floor. He was only successful in regular season games where defenders would slack off and not contest the shot.

Cory Joseph has decent defense, however his shot isn't very consistent.

Jeff Ayres doesn't seem to be a basketball player.

Finally, it's a toss up between Baynes and Daye. Baynes provides a physical presence that I like when he plays with the foreign legion. I see him as a sub for Green on the first team and a sub for Belinelli on the second team. He's either a SG or a SF.

[benefactor]

The guy that thinks all those retarded shops of Chump are funny is laughing. That should tell you a lot tbh.

[RD2191]

:lmao:lmao

[benefactor]

:tu

[anakha]

Finally, it's a toss up between Baynes and Daye. Baynes provides a physical presence that I like when he plays with the foreign legion. I see him as a sub for Green on the first team and a sub for Belinelli on the second team. He's either a SG or a SF.

Either this is a typo, or you consider Baynes to be a swingman.

[Chinook]

We just need to combine Daye and Vesely. That'd be a HoF talent.

[Chinook]

Either this is a typo, or you consider Baynes to be a swingman.

Neither. He just didn't clarify that he was talking about Daye for the last sentence.

[ceperez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iio4wlDD_5s

Just watched this clip of Daye with the Pistons. No.... he's not slow, he's got decent foot speed and foot work for a guy his size.

To claim he wasn't a steal is denying the obvious.

Most detractors on this thread are completely blind.

[BackHome]

Good vid...but having to listen five minutes of Vanilla Ice killed me.

I agree he is not fast but he is also not slow he does need to add about eight to ten pounds of muscle which is probably the most he could add to his frame.

[ceperez]

Good vid...but having to listen five minutes of Vanilla Ice killed me.

I agree he is not fast but he is also not slow he does need to add about eight to ten pounds of muscle which is probably the most he could add to his frame.

He seems to have the same weight as a Rookie in Detroit as he has now. He's kind of like Durant, no chance that he is going to be bulking up.

Look at the moves starting at 2:40 or at 3:55, is that slow? He looks just as fast as Gary Neal.

[absoloot66]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iio4wlDD_5s

Just watched this clip of Daye with the Pistons. No.... he's not slow, he's got decent foot speed and foot work for a guy his size.

To claim he wasn't a steal is denying the obvious.

Most detractors on this thread are completely blind.

Ignoring the "corporate knowledge" aspect, he could be a good Bonner upgrade (pump fake & dribble to avoid defender jumping out; nice crossover in 1-on-1 situations) for 2014-15. It is a YouTube highlight clip, however:p:.

[ceperez]

Ignoring the "corporate knowledge" aspect, he could be a good Bonner upgrade (pump fake & dribble to avoid defender jumping out; nice crossover in 1-on-1 situations) for 2014-15. It is a YouTube highlight clip, however:p:.

I doubt you will be impressed if you see a Matt Bonner highlight clip.

[Chinook]

I doubt you will be impressed if you see a Matt Bonner highlight clip.

Javale McGee's highlight clip looks a lot more impressive than Splitter's.

[ElNono]

in session, tbh...

[tim_duncan_fan]

Here he goes again...

[Robz4000]

All Daye erry Daye

[Austin_Toros]

Austin Daye is The Truth.

[Uriel]

:worthy:

[Splits]

11/2 3 of 4 from deep. When's the HOF celebration?

[jkid12456]

daye showing his versatility with wonderful passing to bangers

[tim_duncan_fan]

I can not wait to see this guy after the inevitable summer workout plan.

[ABC]

daye showing his versatility with wonderful passing to bangers

I thought his passing looked pretty good too.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I thought his passing looked pretty good too.
He threw a great entry pass to Baynes, pretty much led to a layup but Baynes got blocked

[Mugen]

:lol Kid is 120lbs soaking wet and he's our 4th best big tbh

[ElNono]

:lol Kid is 120lbs soaking wet and he's our 4th best big tbh

Daye with it, tbh

[DapDaGenius]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjq4dJqCcAEJRVg.jpg

[ceperez]

11 minutes - 11 points - 3-4 from 3.
2 rebounds 1 assist

Not bad for garbage minutes.

[Mel_13]

Is there a house of worship for Joseph? Fine job by CoJo tonight.

[JR3]

Is there a house of worship for Joseph? Fine job by CoJo tonight.
I know...it's getting to the point that when he is in, I expect everything he throws up to go in.

[littlecoyotecoin]

11 minutes - 11 points - 3-4 from 3.
2 rebounds 1 assist

Not bad for garbage minutes.

Yep. Nice passing. No turnovers. Jump hook down in the paint. And, his defense wasn't bad either. Contested a shot or two. Got beat off the dribble just once that I saw at the end of the game, with 20 seconds on the clock. No one was working too hard at that point, except Fournier. Two fouls were on help defense. He should have had another assist or two, Baynes let him down, he drew a foul or two, one on defensive board, involved in causing turnover on inbounds, etc...good game for him. Sure didn't do anything to hurt his chances tonight.

I think he's only had one turnover since he got here. Not bad for a nOOb.

[playbonner15]

Just needs a few post up moves/ fade away shots to go in for him to be the next Dirk!

And just a few more drives so he can be the "White Dayerantula" :wow

[BanditHiro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V784AiYtG8

[wildbill2u]

11 minutes - 11 points - 3-4 from 3.
2 rebounds 1 assist

Not bad for garbage minutes.

At one point he had 11 pts in THREE minutes. And I'm not so sure they were totally unimportant garbage minutes. Denver was trying to make a little run and had cut the lead under 20 when Daye came in and started bombing from beyond the arc.

[spurs10]

Beatles have been big fans since the sixties.......

"Daye In The Life"

I read the news toDaye oh boy
About a lucky man who made the 3

"Daye Tripper"

It took Pop soooo long to find out, but he found out

[DapDaGenius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V784AiYtG8

:lol Dammit, I should have posted that. I love that song and show.

[ceperez]

Yep. Nice passing. No turnovers. Jump hook down in the paint. And, his defense wasn't bad either. Contested a shot or two. Got beat off the dribble just once that I saw at the end of the game, with 20 seconds on the clock. No one was working too hard at that point, except Fournier. Two fouls were on help defense. He should have had another assist or two, Baynes let him down, he drew a foul or two, one on defensive board, involved in causing turnover on inbounds, etc...good game for him. Sure didn't do anything to hurt his chances tonight.

I think he's only had one turnover since he got here. Not bad for a nOOb.

People are looking a Belinelli and thinking how in the world can this guy shoot the 3 that well. Belinelli always had talent, he dropped 45 points in his first summer league game.

Austin Daye, in the few minutes he has played, his 3 point shooting is off the charts! We are talking here about an effective shooting percentage of 90%. 2-2 in one game, 6-10 in another game, 3-4 today. These are 3 point shots folks. Daye is making the look like layups!

Daye has been known to shoot well ever since college. Now you add him to the Spurs with a guy like Chip Engeland tweaking his form and you have the Spurs system where you get tons of uncontested 3 point attempts. It's a layup drill for Daye! In fact, many of shots, for most folks look like they are contested, for Daye it's not. He's so tall that its all daylight up there!

Daye is going to be that special weapon in the Spurs arsenal where you're down 10 points with 2 minutes to go, and all of a sudden, 3 plays later you're behind by 1 point.

Oh.... speaking of Mills..... nobody is talking about him lately.... but he's crazy good.

[exstatic]

People are looking a Belinelli and thinking how in the world can this guy shoot the 3 that well. Belinelli always had talent, he dropped 45 points in his first summer league game.

Austin Daye, in the few minutes he has played, his 3 point shooting is off the charts! We are talking here about an effective shooting percentage of 90%. 2-2 in one game, 6-10 in another game, 3-4 today. These are 3 point shots folks. Daye is making the look like layups!

Daye has been known to shoot well ever since college. Now you add him to the Spurs with a guy like Chip Engeland tweaking his form and you have the Spurs system where you get tons of uncontested 3 point attempts. It's a layup drill for Daye! In fact, many of shots, for most folks look like they are contested, for Daye it's not. He's so tall that its all daylight up there!

Daye is going to be that special weapon in the Spurs arsenal where you're down 10 points with 2 minutes to go, and all of a sudden, 3 plays later you're behind by 1 point.

Oh.... speaking of Mills..... nobody is talking about him lately.... but he's crazy good.

:lol Daye won't be on the floor if we're down 10 with only two minutes to go.

[UZER]

Daye already showing more balls than Bonner ever has. No hesitation on that trigger.

[ceperez]

Daye already showing more balls than Bonner ever has. No hesitation on that trigger.

Yes exactly. Does not get bothered when defense closes out on him.

A much better option than Bonner for special situations that where a 3 point attempt is contested.

[BackHome]

The other think I like is that he can actually dribble the ball unlike some players on our team he can handle the rock.

[El CaPiTaN809]

:lol Daye won't be on the floor if we're down 10 with only two minutes to go.

:rollin

[Embedded]

Wow, I just watched ceperez's clip. Austin Daye's got ball handling skills, I saw some crossover moves, and bursts of speed to the rim, something I haven't seen from Matt Bonner. I realize this is a highlight clip, but since Daye's playing time has been limited there's not a whole lot of footage anyway. I can't believe we traded Nando de Colo to get him. Now, I can't wait to hear the San Antonio crowd when he does a crossover dribble and dunks it.

[playbonner15]

Wow, I just watched ceperez's clip. Austin Daye's got ball handling skills, I saw some crossover moves, and bursts of speed to the rim, something I haven't seen from Matt Bonner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzpW96N_N0

Breaking ankles tbh :wakeup

[ElNono]

Spurs now 18-1 since the Daye trade :wakeup

[Robz4000]

Just The Catalystdoing what he was brought here for tbh.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yes exactly. Does not get bothered when defense closes out on him.

A much better option than Bonner for special situations that where a 3 point attempt is contested.

It has been nice to see pop use him in the couple games previous to Indiana at the end of quarters, but he hasn't made the most of those opportunities, lately. 0-3 or 0-4, he has seemed to play better after getting warmed up a little...with the major exception being that Miami game where he nailed a couple of 3's right off the bench.

Enjoy the game tomorrow, all.

[ceperez]

It has been nice to see pop use him in the couple games previous to Indiana at the end of quarters, but he hasn't made the most of those opportunities, lately. 0-3 or 0-4, he has seemed to play better after getting warmed up a little...with the major exception being that Miami game where he nailed a couple of 3's right off the bench.

Enjoy the game tomorrow, all.

I watched those end of quarter substitutions. I think he just did not get the ball in a position to be able to shoot it. Anyway, this seems to be his role at the moment. End of quarter plays.

[spurraider21]

getting the start tonight

[exstatic]

Pumpkin time...

[Hoops Czar]

Pumpkin time...

Only for the fools who considered him any good to begin with. He's garbage. Anyone with commonsense already knew this.

[td4mvp2k]

Just :(

[ceperez]

getting the start tonight

Disappointing.... probably need to send him back to the D-league to get some rhythm! This is B.S. that he came unprepared!

[Hoops Czar]

Disappointing.... probably need to send him back to the D-league to get some rhythm! This is B.S. that he came unprepared!

The only bullshit here is a fringe NBA player has 20 pages worth of posts.

[Raven]

His arms actually looked like a defensive tool today, he was bothering the passing lanes so there was some good.

[Chinook]

The only bullshit here is a fringe NBA player has 20 pages worth of posts.

Damned straight. He has two games to convince the Spurs to keep him next year. If they don't, he may be out of the league.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I agree, Raven. Yes, ironically, his defense was acceptable (given it was supposed to be his worst attribute...) and his shooting has trailed off. Ouch. A stretch four that can't shoot. Also, he's strung a few turnovers and fouls along in the last couple of games, which he had been pretty good at preventing in his first few stints. 1-7 from the field and the one make was an offensive rebound and put-back, while great...not the jump-shot we would like to see be consistent for a stretch-4.

But, two steals and a block...and another assist. If he shoots 3 or 4 out of 7 tonight, I think I would have been ok with his performance. I still don't expect much from a guy that has just gotten here and played under 200 minutes, probably, sheesh, good ol' ST hate on the kid.

Spurs are undefeated when Daye starts in place of Duncan.

[wildbill2u]

Perhaps we were over amped when we saw him shoot the lights out on 3s in his first two games. Since then his 3 has virtually disappeared. That's pretty unusual. Only comparison I can think of is Danny Green who loses his touch for 3s off and on. :lol

[Mel_13]

Spurs are undefeated when Daye starts in place of Duncan.

:lol

The glass is half full.

[Embedded]

LOL!!!!! I stand corrected!!!

[Prime Time]

I said Daye was a Best Case: Frye | Worst Case: Novak kind of player, and I'm sticking to that comparison.

Daye has been pretty disappointing from mid-range though. I mean, he's so friggin tall there's usually not even a hand in his face :lol

[ceperez]

:lol

The glass is half full.

Spurs have lost 2 games total since he signed with the Spurs.

[exstatic]

Spurs have lost 2 games total since he signed with the Spurs.

I took a dump last night and didn't flush. Spurs haven't lost a game since I left it there.

[ceperez]

Can Daye guard Durant effectively?

[21209]

Can Daye guard Durant effectively?

He'll never get the chance.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Can Daye guard Durant effectively?

Even if he could, it really isn't Pop's MO to play new players. Mills and Splitter are good examples. Took a long time and hard work for them to prove themselves to Pop that they deserved PT.

With the little time he got I still prefer him over Nando. As usual, some were too harsh on Daye his last couple games. He played three games after his back injury, and each one after he sat out with that injury looked a little better each time. Still, very small sample size and little practice time, and no training camp or summer league.

A veteran pro like Michael Finley took a lot more time to get acclimated when he came to the Spurs than Daye has had. Jefferson never got acclimated. The kid has gotten a little more than 100 minutes of playing time. Take it with a grain of salt. Coming to The Spurs would be intimidating, not wanting to screw up the chemistry, always wanting to defer, to be the team player you know they want, could easily be hard on a younger player. Again, Finley struggled with same.


Pop just got done giving a speech about how things worth building don't always get built overnight.

[Chinook]

Can Daye guard Durant effectively?

Nope. Durant is a 6-10 guard. Daye is a PF. Austin's length might one day allow him to stay in plays against smaller players, but it doesn't work against people his size.

As to whether he gets a chance, I hope not, as I want Kawhi, Danny and Manu to get all of the minutes on him, in that order. But it wouldn't surprise me to see him active for this series while one of the bigs is in a suit. So depending on injuries and foul trouble, he may get one.

[therealtruth]

Pop's not willing to take risks even if they're good risks.

[Mel_13]

Pop's not willing to take risks even if they're good risks.

Are you suggesting that Daye on Durant would be a good risk?

[therealtruth]

Are you suggesting that Daye on Durant would be a good risk?

I'm suggesting sticking with Manu in game 6 last year wasn't.

[Mel_13]

I'm suggesting sticking with Manu in game 6 last year wasn't.

:rolleyes

Lame, even for you.

[jon123spurs]

Paul Garcia PS (@PaulGarciaPS) tweeted at 5:47 PM on Mon, May 19, 2014:
Last series, don’t recall seeing Austin Daye pregame. He’s out here warming up tonight, could be a reserve in this series possibly.
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS/status/468523404509712384)
Pop about to unleash our secret weapon!

[Aztecfan03]

Paul Garcia PS (@PaulGarciaPS) tweeted at 5:47 PM on Mon, May 19, 2014:
Last series, don’t recall seeing Austin Daye pregame. He’s out here warming up tonight, could be a reserve in this series possibly.
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS/status/468523404509712384)
Pop about to unleash our secret weapon!

Since OKC has very few bigs it might make sense to have him as a reserve over Ayres.

[The Reckoning]

Pop's not willing to take risks even if they're good risks.


did you watch last years playoffs? pop had lineups that were drastically different between series. we have no idea what he'll do.

[Chinook]

As I said before, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him active for this series. The bigger question is who would sit out of Ayres and Baynes. Baynes looked good last series, but Pop likes Ayres to fill more spots. I think OKC essentially being down to one PF means Baynes should get the nod.

[jeebus]

As I said before, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him active for this series. The bigger question is who would sit out of Ayres and Baynes. Baynes looked good last series, but Pop likes Ayres to fill more spots. I think OKC essentially being down to one PF means Baynes should get the nod.
Depends on if Pop wants to lose the WCFs on purpose or not.

[Mugen]

The only time I want to see Daye on the floor this series is if the Spurs are up 30 with like 2mins left tbh.

[Chinook]

Depends on if Pop wants to lose the WCFs on purpose or not.

:lol

[therealtruth]

did you watch last years playoffs? pop had lineups that were drastically different between series. we have no idea what he'll do.

Sticking with Ginobili wasn't a good risk or pulling Duncan on those last possesions.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I guess that was CIA Pop trying to scare the Thunder with our Durant Stopper (having Daye warm up at shoot-around). I think I saw Durant blink. Daye was inactive at the start of the game, everyone else who was active got playing time except Bonner, I think. Curious Daye wasn't in a suit as in the other series, though.

[TheGreatYacht]

SPURS NEED TO START AUSTIN DAYE AGAINST IBAKA


-HE'LL STAY ON IBAKA, UNLIKE RETARD SPLITTER
-HE'LL HIT HIS 3'S IF IBAKA DOESNT LEAVE THE PAINT
-HE HELPS THE SPURS AGAINST THE NEW ATHLETIC OKC LINEUP
-A SPLITTER/DIAW COMBO CAN HELP THE BENCH TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OKC'S BENCH
-HE CAN CAUSE DURANT PROBLEMS WITH HIS LENGTH IF HE SWITCHES

[TheGreatYacht]

Save_Us_AD23_

[Gino-Step]

SPURS NEED TO START AUSTIN DAYE AGAINST IBAKA


-HE'LL STAY ON IBAKA, UNLIKE RETARD SPLITTER
-HE'LL HIT HIS 3'S IF IBAKA DOESNT LEAVE THE PAINT
-HE HELPS THE SPURS AGAINST THE NEW ATHLETIC OKC LINEUP
-A SPLITTER/DIAW COMBO CAN HELP THE BENCH TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OKC'S BENCH
-HE CAN CAUSE DURANT PROBLEMS WITH HIS LENGTH IF HE SWITCHES

I completely agree with you. Spurs need players on the court that can run the "beautiful" Spurs offense at 2x the speed against a length and athletic team like OKC. Corey Joseph, Daye are needed. Belli can fk off.

[benstanfield]

All I know is that the Spurs will have to go small and play extremely fast to have a chance from here on out.

But you can bet that Pop will make the next two games about playing better rather than making needed adjustments.

[therealtruth]

All I know is that the Spurs will have to go small and play extremely fast to have a chance from here on out.

But you can bet that Pop will make the next two games about playing better rather than making needed adjustments.

They're not going to outquick the Thunder. They need to move the ball, get good shoots, and not turn it over.

[szkorhetz]

Daye should have a chance, TBH. Ayers don't play either, so giving some minutes to Daye can't really hurt, we are fucked anyway.

[ceperez]

Spurs have until end of the month to guarantee Daye's salary.

[bigfan]

sayonara AD

[G-Dawgg]

I'm completely convinced that Austin Daye will become a pretty good player in the Spurs system. Based on his skill set and his natural gifts he has what it takes to prosper. He is still relatively young and he hasn't really been coached to his potential.

[4lifecowboy]

I'm completely convinced that Austin Daye will become a pretty good player in the Spurs system. Based on his skill set and his natural gifts he has what it takes to prosper. He is still relatively young and he hasn't really been coached to his potential.

In total agreement. I have a feeling he is going to be the under the radar roster improvement that no one will see coming.

[slick'81]

If bonner leave he and ayers will have to pick up the slack

[ceperez]

In total agreement. I have a feeling he is going to be the under the radar roster improvement that no one will see coming.

I agree that he has potential. The Spurs though will have a few days to decide if they sign him up for good.

The only tell that I have is that they allowed him to suit up behind the bench during the championship run. They even allowed him to pose with the trophy. The other player Damien Jones didn't even have either privelage.

[Mel_13]

I agree that he has potential. The Spurs though will have a few days to decide if they sign him up for good.

The only tell that I have is that they allowed him to suit up behind the bench during the championship run. They even allowed him to pose with the trophy. The other player Damien Jones didn't even have either privelage.

Damion James

[rmt]

Shouldn't they be developing Daye to take Bonner's stretch 4 place?

[ceperez]

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/450687522-austin-daye-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-poses-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QdNxrBZ51jBFoiTBZ2I2dCWacxcA 3A14VWi5DBDrRcSW

Well, the Spurs allowed him to pose with the trophy in full uniform..... looks like he might not get cut!

[ceperez]

Damion James

Apologies. The guy barely sniffed the court, I completely forgot his name.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Bump

With only one roster spot, does Daye lose his spot to Kyle Anderson? They seem more similar than different.

Daye playing in Summer League?

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/#$/2014/news/05/27/samsung-summer-league-participants/index.html

Are team rosters published? Previous years' rosters:

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/San-Antonio-Spurs/26/Rosters/Summer_League

July 1, Daye must be paid or released, I think?

Last year The Spurs announced their summer league roster only three days before the start date. That would be July 8th.

[ceperez]

Bump

With only one roster spot, does Daye lose his spot to Kyle Anderson? They seem more similar than different.

Daye playing in Summer League?

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/#$/2014/news/05/27/samsung-summer-league-participants/index.html

Are team rosters published? Previous years' rosters:

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/San-Antonio-Spurs/26/Rosters/Summer_League

July 1, Daye must be paid or released, I think?

Last year The Spurs announced their summer league roster only three days before the start date. That would be July 8th.

Anderson is similar to Daye in that both are extremely long (9'2" standing reach for Day and 9'0" standing reach for Anderson) and dribble quite well. Daye is bigger and is a better shooter. Anderson is a better playmaker and rebounder. Will Spurs keep both to develop?

Fingers crossed that Spurs guarantee remainder of Daye's contract by June 30th.

[ceperez]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234041/Spurs-To-Keep-Austin-Daye-Guarantee-His-Deal-For-14-15


The San Antonio Spurs will keep forward Austin Daye beyond Monday’s contract guarantee deadline, a league source told RealGM.

Acquired in a trade in February, Daye, 26, averaged 4.1 points and 1.4 rebounds in 14 games for the San Antonio Spurs.

The Spurs faced deadline on Daye’s contract, and they could have released his partially guaranteed deal by Monday night.

Daye has averaged 5.4 points and 2.7 rebounds over five NBA seasons. He was a first round pick of the Detroit Pistons in 2009. Yahoo Sports first reported that the Spurs were not expected to release Daye.

Now it's time to prove his detractors wrong!

[ceperez]

Looking forward to seeing Kyle Anderson and Daye on the court at the same time. In fact, if the Spurs have Duncan, Splitter, Bonner, Daye and Anderson at the same time... this is the most ground bound team ever!

Maybe it's time to realize... the Spurs win games by not jumping!

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234041/Spurs-To-Keep-Austin-Daye-Guarantee-His-Deal-For-14-15



Now it's time to prove his detractors wrong!

Hell, he's already proven them wrong multiple times. First he would be released after the trade. They only picked him up by accident in the DeColo trade, but weren't interested in HIM. Then he wouldn't sniff the court. Then he would only play garbage minutes. Then, he would be paid 250k to walk away. The detractors keep moving the goal-posts, and he keeps proving them wrong. Eventually, they'll be saying: But, he won't be able to win a FOURTH finals MVP award...and when he is held to only three, they'll say... See, we told you so.

Amen.

[ceperez]

Hell, he's already proven them wrong multiple times. First he would be released after the trade. They only picked him up by accident in the DeColo trade, but weren't interested in HIM. Then he wouldn't sniff the court. Then he would only play garbage minutes. Then, he would be paid 250k to walk away. The detractors keep moving the goal-posts, and he keeps proving them wrong. Eventually, they'll be saying: But, he won't be able to win a FOURTH finals MVP award...and when he is held to only three, they'll say... See, we told you so.

Amen.

What is it about Daye that there are so many haters?

I just don't get it?

He's like Duncan, long but unathletic. So I can't understand why fans have different and high expectations.

[littlecoyotecoin]

What is it about Daye that there are so many haters?

I just don't get it?

He's like Duncan, long but unathletic. So I can't understand why fans have different and high expectations.

Hubris, arrogance, group-think, and/or narcissism. Even when a vaunted front office filled with professionals makes a decision counter to their sensibilities, these amateur basketball savants rail and laugh as if the professionals should have called them before making such a poor decision. It's fun psychology to watch manifest right in front of you, actually. Remember. Some of them have made tens of thousands of posts like "roflmao" or "This!" Or :lmao. Their opinions matter more.

[moisaenz]

Hubris, arrogance, group-think, and/or narcissism. Even when a vaunted front office filled with professionals makes a decision counter to their sensibilities, these amateur basketball savants rail and laugh as if the professionals should have called them before making such a poor decision. It's fun psychology to watch manifest right in front of you, actually. Remember. Some of them have made tens of thousands of posts like "roflmao" or "This!" Or :lmao. Their opinions matter more.

:lmao:lmao

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I doubt Daye sticks. He's had years to prove he's an NBA player and failed at every turn.

[SupremeGuy]

I like keeping Daye. Give him a summer and I bet he'll be a pretty good stretch 4 or backup 3 next year. Just give him a chance, tbh.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I doubt Daye sticks. He's had years to prove he's an NBA player and failed at every turn.

Perpetuating the argument in another thread, yet flabbergasted that the argument continues.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Perpetuating the argument in another thread, yet flabbergasted that the argument continues.

No, not flabbergasted. Try not putting words into other people's mouths.

How is the argument incorrect? Where exactly has Daye done anything significant in the NBA? Are you arguing he's a late bloomer? He might be, but they are very rare. I think it's more likely he's just not quite good enough, or doesn't have a position at this level. He should do fine in Europe.

Are you Daye's agent? If not, why are you so worked up about him?

[littlecoyotecoin]

No, not flabbergasted. Try not putting words into other people's mouths.

How is the argument incorrect? Where exactly has Daye done anything significant in the NBA? Are you arguing he's a late bloomer? He might be, but they are very rare. I think it's more likely he's just not quite good enough, or doesn't have a position at this level. He should do fine in Europe.

Are you Daye's agent? If not, why are you so worked up about him?

Now, you're picking nits. Priceless. You find it "hilarious", whatever. But, you find your way into the "Temple of Austin Daye", what do you think is going to be discussed in these threads. Each one of your questions has been answered. Start with page one, work forward. Troll on brother. Good night.

[ceperez]

I doubt Daye sticks. He's had years to prove he's an NBA player and failed at every turn.

Dude.... he's made it this far (got guaranteed another season). I can't understand all the negativity.

The Spurs for years have been questioning conventional wisdom.

(1) They got Manu an athletic south american/european player where none has ever succeeded in the NBA.
(2) They got an 18 year old french player to play point guard
(3) They signed in free agency an overweight player who was waived by the worse team in the NBA.

now the latest stories are
(1) They get a guy nickednamed as 'SloMo' that's passed by all 30 teams in the draft.
(2) They sign a guy thinner that Prince to fill the 14th spot in the roster.

Spurs fans should be estatic that they got someone with a lot of potential for next to nothing.

[ceperez]

Duncan doesn't get a lot of lift, but he's able to be a defensive presence and block a lot of shots because of his length. Daye can be similarly effective. He's not as strong as Duncan, but Duncan has shown that by losing weight, he's become more effective.

Daye has point guard skills that shouldn't be underestimated for a guy his size. Diaw creates havoc because of his point guard skills. Daye shold be similarly effective.

Daye has an extremely good shooting mechanics. I am sure Chip saw this and that's one reason he was extended. He made 6 three pointers against the Sixers... that's a lot. The Spurs have been looking for a Horry replacement for the longest time and Daye could be just that guy. Channing Frye is a heavier player, but I doubt the Spurs have the cap room to sign him.

[xmas1997]

Daye just needs to beef up a little like Patty did last off season.

[SnakeBoy]

Daye just needs to beef up a little like Patty did last off season.

Daye has been trying to beef up since he got in the league. For years he has worked with plenty of top trainers, nutritionists, and even had genetic testing done...all to no avail. During the championship celebration introductions Patty said he was the guy who was always in the gym lifting weights and people thought Patty was trying to make a joke, he wasn't. If the Spurs can turn him into a legit nba player then they will prove once and for all that they have the best developmental program on the planet, so good that it can overcome genetics.

[Nathan89]

Hubris, arrogance, group-think, and/or narcissism. Even when a vaunted front office filled with professionals makes a decision counter to their sensibilities, these amateur basketball savants rail and laugh as if the professionals should have called them before making such a poor decision. It's fun psychology to watch manifest right in front of you, actually. Remember. Some of them have made tens of thousands of posts like "roflmao" or "This!" Or :lmao. Their opinions matter more.

Agreed. I hated how Spurstalk was upset when we gave RJ that big contract.

[littlecoyotecoin]

There were people outside Spurstalk that didn't like that deal. ST not liking it was hardly a novel sentiment. But, most importantly, the ones that fall under the umbrella described can be right about something. Even something most others, including the front office, are wrong about. They can be capable of brilliant thought. I don't think the Jefferson deal being bad qualifies as brilliant thought, but even if it did: There is nothing that precludes an arrogant or narcissistic person from being right. What defines them is that when challenged, they assume that they are ALWAYS right, even when pitted against a front office like The Spurs have, or similar formidable adversary. They still assume superiority.

Now, the following references are not made in order to insinuate that all of these Spurstalk posters are intelligent. We know some are dumb as posts. However, some are very intelligent. But, even smart people propose stupid ideas, and defend them. There is a lot of good reading on the subject here:

http://www.michaelshermer.com/2002/09/smart-people-believe-weird-things/

http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/

[xmas1997]

There were people outside Spurstalk that didn't like that deal. ST not liking it was hardly a novel sentiment. But, most importantly, the ones that fall under the umbrella described can be right about something. Even something most others, including the front office, are wrong about. They can be capable of brilliant thought. I don't think the Jefferson deal being bad qualifies as brilliant thought, but even if it did: There is nothing that precludes an arrogant or narcissistic person from being right. What defines them is that when challenged, they assume that they are ALWAYS right, even when pitted against a front office like The Spurs have, or similar formidable adversary. They still assume superiority.

Now, the following references are not made in order to insinuate that all of these Spurstalk posters are intelligent. We know some are dumb as posts. However, some are very intelligent. But, even smart people propose stupid ideas, and defend them. There is a lot of good reading on the subject here:

http://www.michaelshermer.com/2002/09/smart-people-believe-weird-things/

http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/

Two very excellent articles, thanks.
Unfortunately you are probably preaching in the wind on here for a great many of the ST posters.
And I would say why, but then I would get accused of complaining, when I am only stating a fact of reality.
But then I think we know why that is also.

[T Park]

Good to see. I like Daye and he's shown great talent and I think he'll take some strides.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Two very excellent articles, thanks.
Unfortunately you are probably preaching to the wind on here for a great many of the ST posters.
And I would say why, but then I would get accused of complaining, when I am only stating a fact of reality.
But then I think we know why that is also.

<chuckle>. You're right, of course. Sometimes it's just fun to write. Check out the Bertans LJC thread. Well above average posting going on in there. And, thank you anonymous internet friend. More than made it worthwile.

[xmas1997]

<chuckle>. You're right, of course. Sometimes it's just fun to write. Check out the Bertans LJC thread. Well above average posting going on in there. And, thank you anonymous internet friend. More than made it worthwile.

Yeah, it is fun to write, to share opinions, and gain some knowledge and maybe some insight along the way too.
It becomes no fun when the blanks decide to blank you for no good reason. You can substitute the you-know-whats for the blanks.
Again this is not a complaint, it is a simple statement of fact on this site.
:lol

[ceperez]

http://www.freep.com/article/20140706/SPORTS06/307060108/mitch-mcgary-oklahoma-city-thunder-summer-league


PROMISING DAYE: The Spurs have offered former Pistons first-round pick Austin Daye a new lease on life.

Traded to the Spurs at the trade deadline from the Raptors, Daye was able to earn a championship ring and have a front-row seat to one of the league’s model franchises. Things got even better after the season when the Spurs quickly moved to guarantee his contract for next season so he will get an off-season in the Spurs’ program. Spurs assistant and former MSU assistant Jim Boylen said it was easy decision.

“He fits two criteria we are looking for,” Boylen said. “First, he can shoot the ball and second, he has a high basketball IQ.”

[jeebus]

lol @ anything boylen has to say

[Chinook]

lol @ anything boylen has to say

I wonder if they asked him about Ayres.

[jeebus]

I wonder if they asked him about Ayres.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/7/12/4516592/san-antonio-spurs-jeff-pendergraph-2-year-deal-free-agency

Take a look at this bullshit that RC spewed. He must've been drunk again. He made Paussy look like Shaq in the paint. His only passes where little handoffs after setting a screen. Whenever he shot, it bricked. Hopefully the Spurms are using the SL to showcase him to other teams to trade his ass, like how we did with Nando.


And as R.C. Buford said Thursday when the team announced the signing, Pendergraph comes highly recommended from new assistant coach Jim Boylen. (H/T to Mike Monroe (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/07/11/spurs-make-it-official-ginobili-belinelli-pendergraph-sign-free-agent-deals-splitters-deal-expected-soon/)).

"He's a very physical player," Buford said. "His skill set fits us. He's a good passer who can play four and five. All indications are he's an 18-foot jump shooter who just hasn't had a lot of opportunities."

[Chinook]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/7/12/4516592/san-antonio-spurs-jeff-pendergraph-2-year-deal-free-agency

Take a look at this bullshit that RC spewed. He must've been drunk again. He made Paussy look like Shaq in the paint. His only passes where little handoffs after setting a screen. Whenever he shot, it bricked. Hopefully the Spurms are using the SL to showcase him to other teams to trade his ass, like how we did with Nando.


And as R.C. Buford said Thursday when the team announced the signing, Pendergraph comes highly recommended from new assistant coach Jim Boylen. (H/T to Mike Monroe (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/07/11/spurs-make-it-official-ginobili-belinelli-pendergraph-sign-free-agent-deals-splitters-deal-expected-soon/)).

"He's a very physical player," Buford said. "His skill set fits us. He's a good passer who can play four and five. All indications are he's an 18-foot jump shooter who just hasn't had a lot of opportunities."



He is good passer...

But I meant for the summer league. I guess not, since he was probably going on and on about how Daye may be able to fill hole at starting small-forward that the team had all last year.

[littlecoyotecoin]

He is good passer...

But I meant for the summer league. I guess not, since he was probably going on and on about how Daye may be able to fill hole at starting small-forward that the team had all last year.

Project Spurs has a nice little article about summer league. Ayres is to be accompanying Daye to summer league. Maybe each playing for only one spot on the roster. Who knows.

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-announce-2014-summer-league-roster.html

[Trill Clinton]

Daye is going to ball out this summer.

[Chinook]

Project Spurs has a nice little article about summer league. Ayres is to be accompanying Daye to summer league. Maybe each playing for only one spot on the roster. Who knows.

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-announce-2014-summer-league-roster.html

I think Ayres makes it and Daye fights Thomas. If Jeff figures out how to shoot again, he'll be the only PF with legit size outside of Diaw. Even as the fourth center, his athleticism, hustle and passing make him valuable.

Anderson, Daye and Thomas are in the same boat as prospects. Kyle is a lock, obviously, and Daye is almost one. But if Thomas beats him in the Summer League and training camp, the Spurs may eat his salary.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I think Ayres makes it and Daye fights Thomas. If Jeff figures out how to shoot again, he'll be the only PF with legit size outside of Diaw. Even as the fourth center, his athleticism, hustle and passing make him valuable.

Anderson, Daye and Thomas are in the same boat as prospects. Kyle is a lock, obviously, and Daye is almost one. But if Thomas beats him in the Summer League and training camp, the Spurs may eat his salary.

Was busy at work. I just noticed all the conversation in the summer league thread. Should be a fun one.

[AFBlue]

Daye going makes sense to get him more exposure in the system. The Ayres move is puzzling tbqh.

[G-Dawgg]

Daye will be good. As ling as he can consistently hit the wide open 3, he'll be just as good as Rashard Lewis would be at a fraction of the cost.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Austin Daye recently played in The Drew League, apparently. He has played in the past:

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/05/austin-daye-named-drew-league-player-of-the-week/

This league has lesser competition than the NBA all-star game, but it features a similar style of defense, which is to say none. Austin played on The Clozers this year. Brandon Jennings scored 57 in a game, and Austin was mentioned:

http://msn.foxsports.com/west/story/brandon-jennings-drops-57-points-in-drew-league-game-070514

Another brief mention:

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/7/7/5876745/2014-summer-league-kentavious-caldwell-pope-peyton-siva-pistons-stats

I think this is a picture of Austin from his Instagram page from this year's Drew League competition:

http://instagram.com/p/qIdAmQuoH5/

Hard to tell if he's added weight, I don't work at a carnival, but if that's him, he's looking more ripped. There are a couple of more workout related pics, and a pic of a plate of Grandma's home cooking that looks pretty good. I hope that was your second or third plate, Austin. I eat more than that, and I'm in a holding pattern.

The Drew League has a website, but it's not friendly to my phone, and is sparse on info. Maybe you will have better luck.

http://www.drewleague.com

[Mel_13]

Austin Daye recently played in The Drew League, apparently. He has played in the past:

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/05/austin-daye-named-drew-league-player-of-the-week/

This league has lesser competition that the NBA all-star game, but it features a similar style of defense, which is to say none. Austin played on The Clozers this year. Brandon Jennings scored 57 in a game, and Austin was mentioned:

http://msn.foxsports.com/west/story/brandon-jennings-drops-57-points-in-drew-league-game-070514

Another brief mention:

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/7/7/5876745/2014-summer-league-kentavious-caldwell-pope-peyton-siva-pistons-stats

I think this is a picture of Austin from his Instagram page from this year's Drew League competition:

http://instagram.com/p/qIdAmQuoH5/

Hard to tell if he's added weight, I don't work at a carnival, but if that's him, he's looking more ripped. There are a couple of more workout related pics, and pic of a plate of Grandma's home cooking that looks pretty good. I hope that was your second or third plate, Austin. I eat more than that, and I'm in a holding pattern.

Thanks. Gotta love this from the first article:

NBA champion Austin Daye

[littlecoyotecoin]

Thanks. Gotta love this from the first article:

NBA champion Austin Daye

Has quite a RING to it.

[Mel_13]

Has quite a RING to it.

Could make you scream into your pillow.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Could make you scream into your pillow.

Yes. He sure got lucky that RC came along, and thus far he's trying to make the most of it, it seems. His road behind him is already littered with the corpses of failed message board pundit predictions, and professional predictions as well:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/the-san-antonio-spurs--gone-till-november--sadly-214813579.html

Relevant quote:

"Free agent Matt Bonner, sadly, is probably out, Austin Daye’s contract will probably be declined, and San Antonio will once again hope that internal development from Kawhi Leonard and Tiago Splitter could put this team over the top in 2014-15."

By that measure, he's already a success. If The Spurs decide not to eat his salary, and he has a good season, a la former towel waver Patty Mills, that road will more resemble a Kuwaiti highway circa Feb. 27th, 1991.

[Mel_13]

Yes. He sure got lucky that RC came along, and thus far he's trying to make the most of it, it seems. His road behind him is already littered with the corpses of failed message board pundit predictions, and professional predictions as well:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/the-san-antonio-spurs--gone-till-november--sadly-214813579.html

Relevant quote:

"Free agent Matt Bonner, sadly, is probably out, Austin Daye’s contract will probably be declined, and San Antonio will once again hope that internal development from Kawhi Leonard and Tiago Splitter could put this team over the top in 2014-15."

By that measure, he's already a success. If The Spurs decide not to eat his salary, and he has a good season, a la former towel waver Patty Mills, that road will more resemble a Kuwaiti highway circa Feb. 27th, 1991.

Can't see how anyone would argue with that. Glad to see that he agreed to play in Vegas.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Can't see how anyone would argue with that. Glad to see that he agreed to play in Vegas.

Yeah, will be fun to watch, and shows an eagerness, or a play-or-go-home Godfather offer he couldn't refuse. Who knows. I don't know that foot speed is necessarily set in stone, either. Maybe he could survive as is, but modest improvement may be able to be achieved. I am not familiar with that science, but seems plausible. With greater musculature to pull around those lanky legs, and other drills for agility improvement, along with his length, training camp, summer league, and regular season playing time, he may eventually prove passable on D.

Is it Friday, Yet?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Fire,

I don't know if this is the one you are referring to, or there was another one this year?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOx6lrzUJ0

Aug 5, 2013Kevin Durant returned to LAUNFD and dropped 25 points and 12 boards to give LAUNFD the win even though the Raptors' Austin Daye responded with 30 points and 10 boards.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhahjgWyeTQ

Check out this play for Daye on the 1:40 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhahjgWyeTQ

Look where he's shooting from. This is an extremely deadly weapon come playoff time. If all Daye ever contributes to the Spurs is this shot, then he's going to stick.

[jermaine]

Daye has Durrant potential! He doesn't have the desire like Durrant I think. You cant go half speed an expect playing time.

[Obstructed_View]

You cant go half speed an expect playing time.

...yet Daye continues to do it.

[littlecoyotecoin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhahjgWyeTQ

Check out this play for Daye on the 1:40 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhahjgWyeTQ

Look where he's shooting from. This is an extremely deadly weapon come playoff time. If all Daye ever contributes to the Spurs is this shot, then he's going to stick.

He has another one of those, today. He's got range. He needs to string 20 games together like today's game.

[littlecoyotecoin]

It has not gone unnoticed, Austin, that I have not once seen you bite on the upfake and come crashing down on your man for a foul. Also, I saw a lot of verticality today, as well, a la Splitter, using that length but staying in your space. Of course, good passing as per usual. 2-4 from 3 ( we're going to omit that prayer at the half-time buzzer ). 6/7 from the free throw line. Sweet. Pulling the chair. Nice. Respectable D. Drawing a charge. And, your 1 turnover was a foul. You were robbed. You did look like you were tiring out a little in the fourth. Shots started to find the rim instead of the net, hands on your hips, but other than that, nice little game. Helping your teammates, rebounding, assists, and a calming influence on offense.

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/7/14/5897245/austin-daye-san-antonio-spurs-las-vegas-summer-league-2014

[Obstructed_View]

If a guy wants to be a three point shooter for the Spurs, he needs to pick a spot and be good at it before moving around. Daye shoots from everywhere. Seems to think he's Gary Neal, not Bruce Bowen.

[Chinook]

Daye just got a shoutout on The Starters as their player of the day... punny.

Personally, I think he's been the best Spur over these three games, so it's nice to see him get the recognition.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Daye just got a shoutout on The Starters as their player of the day... punny.

Personally, I think he's been the best Spur over these three games, so it's nice to see him get the recognition.

Cool. Yeah, that first game I thought he did pretty well, especially. Considering the layoff, etc. His poor shooting overshadowed the fact that he led the team in rebounding, I think, and a lot of other little things that didn't show up in the box score. Too bad a 1 million dollar player is going to have to play better that Duncan/Diaw to get even a modicum of respect from the fans. He's got a reputation to overcome. I don't mind him trying to shoot himself out of a slump a little in the first two games. He could have used a LITTLE better shot selection, but a lot of the shots he got were open.

There is another article on Daye behind the subscription wall at The Express News, but I don't have a sub:

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-Daye-trying-to-shoot-through-drought-5619004.php#comments

[Mel_13]

Cool. Yeah, that first game I thought he did pretty well, especially. Considering the layoff, etc. His poor shooting overshadowed the fact that he led the team in rebounding, I think, and a lot of other little things that didn't show up in the box score. Too bad a 1 million dollar player is going to have to play better that Duncan/Diaw to get even a modicum of respect from the fans. He's got a reputation to overcome. I don't mind him trying to shoot himself out of a slump a little in the first two games. He could have used a LITTLE better shot selection, but a lot of the shots he got were open.

There is another article on Daye behind the subscription wall at The Express News, but I don't have a sub:

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-Daye-trying-to-shoot-through-drought-5619004.php#comments

Anytime you run into that wall, just go to the twitter page for the writer. You'll find a link that bypasses the wall:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/07/13/cleveland-82-summer-spurs-70-daye-still-shooting-blanks/

[littlecoyotecoin]

Anytime you run into that wall, just go to the twitter page for the writer. You'll find a link that bypasses the wall:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/07/13/cleveland-82-summer-spurs-70-daye-still-shooting-blanks/

Thanks, I tried that, but couldn't find it. Are you web based or mobile web when you found that...I was mobile, and am wondering if that was the problem or I just missed it.

[Mel_13]

Thanks, I tried that, but couldn't find it. Are you web based or mobile web when you found that...I was mobile, and am wondering if that was the problem or I just missed it.

Web.

[Obstructed_View]

Daye just got a shoutout on The Starters as their player of the day... punny.

Personally, I think he's been the best Spur over these three games, so it's nice to see him get the recognition.

I saw that too. It's what gave me the idea of packaging him with Ayres now. He certainly wasn't better than Morris yesterday, IMO. That six point swing right at the end of the game was bad.

[Taking it to the Hole]

The real question is how much playing time is Pop going to give Daye in the rotation if he doesn't get cut? If they expect any improvement from him, they are going to have to play him more but he is going to be a defensive liability when he is out there so I can't see him staying on the court for that long. It just makes me frustrated because if he played with the desire and focus he needs to, he could be a solid role player off the bench. He has been in the league for a few years so he cannot use the excuse of inexperience. He just always looks unsure of himself when he gets the ball. He needs to stop thinking and just go play basketball.

[Chinook]

Daye and Anderson are fighting for the same spot in the fringe rotation as a small-ball four/fifth wing. I expect the loser of the competition to be inactive most games along with Mills.

[Mel_13]

Daye and Anderson are fighting for the same spot in the fringe rotation as a small-ball four/fifth wing. I expect the loser of the competition to be inactive most games along with Mills.

Anderson probably goes to Austin regardless of who wins that competition.

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/postgame-analysis-deshaun-thomas-and-austin-daye.html

http://spurshomer.blogspot.com/2014/07/summer-league-new-daye.html?m=1

[littlecoyotecoin]

Daye and Anderson are fighting for the same spot in the fringe rotation as a small-ball four/fifth wing. I expect the loser of the competition to be inactive most games along with Mills.

In addition to small ball four, I think they might start him for Duncan along side Splitter on rest/injury nights for Tim, as well, if he doesn't get cut. They did this in one of his few games last RS. I am not sure Splitter started that game, though. But, it might be a serviceable pairing in a pinch.

[CaptainLate]

Don't hate him. I would rather have had Singleton, but Daye's really tall and can shoot.

From Bleacher Report: Austin Daye did not have a great Vegas on the surface. As with Vonleh, Daye's 35 percent field-goal rate isn't pretty, even if it led to 16.3 points per game.

Look closely, however, and there's a telltale sign that the 6'11" forward might be turning into a wiry version of Boris Diaw.

San Antonio's dancing bear came up huge as a meaty Swiss Army knife in the Spurs' championship run, contributing 9.2 points, 4.8 boards and, most meaningfully, 3.4 assists per game in the 2014 postseason. His interior passing was emblematic of the team's beautiful ball movement, and it earned him three more years and $22 million.

Remember we mentioned that Daye averaged 3.0 assists per game in summer league play? For context, he played 27.3 minutes per game. In five seasons, he has played 14.6 minutes per game and dealt 0.8 assists, peaking with 1.1 back in 2010-11.

As the offense ran through Daye's distribution, the system stood out as much as the player. San Antonio isn't just picking up bigs who can pass as a luxury; the Spurs are teaching that skill and preaching it as a necessity. He is just the most recent beneficiary of that organizational tutelage.

[littlecoyotecoin]

From Bleacher Report: Austin Daye did not have a great Vegas on the surface. As with Vonleh, Daye's 35 percent field-goal rate isn't pretty, even if it led to 16.3 points per game.

Look closely, however, and there's a telltale sign that the 6'11" forward might be turning into a wiry version of Boris Diaw.

San Antonio's dancing bear came up huge as a meaty Swiss Army knife in the Spurs' championship run, contributing 9.2 points, 4.8 boards and, most meaningfully, 3.4 assists per game in the 2014 postseason. His interior passing was emblematic of the team's beautiful ball movement, and it earned him three more years and $22 million.

Remember we mentioned that Daye averaged 3.0 assists per game in summer league play? For context, he played 27.3 minutes per game. In five seasons, he has played 14.6 minutes per game and dealt 0.8 assists, peaking with 1.1 back in 2010-11.

As the offense ran through Daye's distribution, the system stood out as much as the player. San Antonio isn't just picking up bigs who can pass as a luxury; the Spurs are teaching that skill and preaching it as a necessity. He is just the most recent beneficiary of that organizational tutelage.

He could always pass. The Spurs didn't teach him how to do that. They are providing the platform, though. Good to see some more recognition.

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://instagram.com/p/qzmKVKuoLj/

His comment sounds confident. He doesn't seem to feel as if his head is on the chopping block.

In addition to playing against him in The Drew League, he continues to do private workouts with Durant.

http://instagram.com/p/q3RPwOOoM6/

And their trainer @dribble2much.

[littlecoyotecoin]

And on twitter...his grind comment...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Adaye5

[littlecoyotecoin]

Some mention of Daye in today's Project Spurs big man piece:

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/categorizing-the-spurs-frontcourt.html

[jeebus]

Some mention of Daye in today's Project Spurs big man piece:

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/categorizing-the-spurs-frontcourt.html
fuck project spurs

[kobyz]

Daye made some strides in his game this past season but he is still couple years of strides from maybe being a useful player...

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://thew.tv/videos/nba-summer-league-gonzagas-austin-daye

Interview: Austin with some interesting words and also a verbal slap in Patty's face!

[sexinthatsx]

Anderson probably goes to Austin regardless of who wins that competition.

I'd like to think Anderson can have the Kawhi treatment and not have to spend a few games in Austin like the other players :(

[littlecoyotecoin]

Not even a few? I am like you that I hope he gets a chance to play like Kawhi, as a rookie. Most rookies don't. But, depending upon matchups, etc. It would be good for him to get PT in Austin rather than just ride the bench. I wouldn't mind Daye going to Austin, too, when there are several days between Spurs games, etc.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Oh, and I'll go out on a limb and disagree with Mel, if he thinks Anderson will go to Austin on a permanent basis. I am not sure if that's what Mel meant, or if he meant just occasionally. I think Kyle will get significant playing time this year as a Spur, for a rookie. Otherwise, they MAY take a more promising Euro to stash and keep a roster spot open to overpay a free agent, etc. in one of if not Tim's last year and during a title defense. There was a real spark in RC's eye. I think they are in love with the kid and believe he can be of some use this year.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's NOT a rivalry, Austin. Patty is a proven world-level player and NBA champion. What have you done?

[littlecoyotecoin]

It's NOT a rivalry, Austin. Patty is a proven world-level player and NBA champion. What have you done?

He was referring to the colleges. I thought it was funny. Good-natured jab.

[tim_duncan_fan]

He was referring to the colleges. I thought it was funny. Good-natured jab.

Yeah I know it was a Gonzaga thing, but I mean really, Austin Daye, you are just barely a D-League player. Take jabs when you are actually part of the team. I also laughed when he said he was excited about "receiving our rings."

Honestly, he just shouldn't be saying anything after his disappointing Summer League.

Step ya game up, Daye.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yeah I know it was a Gonzaga thing, but I mean really, Austin Daye, you are just barely a D-League player. Take jabs when you are actually part of the team. I also laughed when he said he was excited about "receiving our rings."

Honestly, he just shouldn't be saying anything after his disappointing Summer League.

Step ya game up, Daye.

Too harsh, man, he's just goofin' on a teammate. That group doesn't have the camaraderie that it does for belittling the end of the bench guys for not being a "real" part of the championship. Nor by disallowing Daye to jab at the college lack of rivalry. Patty was only a towel waiver last year. Daye gets a chance to have a breakout year, this year, just like Patty did. And, the only real disappointment was his shooting % in summer league. In most other aspects, he did quite well, and I am reasonably confident his shooting % will be respectable when the regular season rolls around. If the other aspects of his game are present in the same quantity as during summer league, then we'll have a player on our hands to absorb minutes for Duncan and spell Kawhi. That will be a hell of a coup considering we got him for Nando.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yeah I know it was a Gonzaga thing, but I mean really, Austin Daye, you are just barely a D-League player. Take jabs when you are actually part of the team. I also laughed when he said he was excited about "receiving our rings."

Honestly, he just shouldn't be saying anything after his disappointing Summer League.

Step ya game up, Daye.

You might be right though, about still stepping his game up. He thinks he is a jet-setter from his Twitter and Instagram footprint. He is playing in the Drew league yesterday on the west coast at two pm, then flying out to NYC today. After shooting so poorly for several games, I might want to see more Twitter and Instagram evidence of a Larry Bird style work-ethic on his jump shot, instead of dinner with his pals, and fashion photos of his haircuts, shoes, suits, and tats. You're fighting for a roster spot buddy.

Too easy to read too much into these things. He might be putting up 1000's of shots a day, and only sharing the superficial aspects of his life, but he did sort of kick me in the nuts shooting in the 20s and 30s in the summer league. If Bird or Jordan shot that poorly, they would probably be in the gym until their fingers bled, and they had secured a roster spot, leaders, not hoping for one. I don't know that they'd be jetting around with their fingers up their butts taking selfies. Maybe Chip Engelland is in New York City, or Daye's personal shooting coach. Another poster referred to him as seeming to look as if he felt "entitled", and I do get a LITTLE bit of that vibe from him. Grew up with an NBA dad, thinks he doesn't have to work for it. When he does work, he thinks medium is hard, and hard is too much. I promise if he comes out shooting poorly in the first half of the season, I'll be wanting to throw his ass under the buss like everyone else on here.

[DocDoc]

In an article about possible women playing in NBA.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/07/25/freelance-friday-lifetime-wnba-elena-delle-donne/

Austin Daye is used an an example of one of the least athletic players in the NBA. Article is worth a read anyway, although it will be too long for most posters on this board as it is longer than a paragraph and has no cuss words.

[boutons_deux]

I also laughed when he said he was excited about "receiving our rings."


If Pop says anyone is on the team, then that anyone is a 100% legit Spur.

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://dimemag.com/2014/07/video-ebc-celebrity-classic-recap/

Not much to see, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway.

[ABC]

http://dimemag.com/2014/07/video-ebc-celebrity-classic-recap/

Not much to see, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway.

James Gist sighting! (Gist with a hard "G")

[Chinook]

In an article about possible women playing in NBA.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/07/25/freelance-friday-lifetime-wnba-elena-delle-donne/

Austin Daye is used an an example of one of the least athletic players in the NBA. Article is worth a read anyway, although it will be too long for most posters on this board as it is longer than a paragraph and has no cuss words.

Interesting article. Pretty much disagree that Delle Donne is in the same league as those guys, though. She's quite a bit smaller than those other guys, and height is a huge deal in the league. At best, she'd be a bigger Steve Kerr.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

fuck project spurs

[littlecoyotecoin]

"Eventually, they had to keep it, as after several attempts to throw it in, Austin was unable to hit the ocean."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2157778-spurs-austin-daye-catches-monster-sailfish-while-deep-sea-fishing

#Shouldbeinthegympracticingyourshot

[littlecoyotecoin]

Austin was back at Impact Basketball summer training camp this past week.

Run by Joe Abunassar, and related link re: Daye when he trained with Abunassar when he was with The Pistons:

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/truebluepistons_090917.html

[ABC]

^

Interesting read. Thanks :toast

[littlecoyotecoin]

YQW. If you found that at all entertaining during these doldrums, I might add that:

Anderson (J) worked out there, as well as Kawhi...

http://m.mysanantonio.com/slideshows/sports/spurs/slideshow/Spurs-James-Anderson-at-Impact-Basketball-30964/photo-1613936.php

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182325&page=6

[ABC]

^

Thanks again :toast

[littlecoyotecoin]

Daye posted a couple of vids to his Instagram from another week at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas:

http://instagram.com/p/sRum0guoL8/

http://instagram.com/p/sRtrzcOoLL/

http://instagram.com/p/sRsp4tuoKC/

From his hashtags and his Spurs hat, he still seems totally bought in, and doesn't seem to feel like he's trade bait. I am a little bit surprised at all the trade talk. Multi-team deals to open up a roster spot they could have had by simply not opting into this year's contract and saving $750k at the same time? Seems like a bunch of ST posters are reaching. When was the last time The Spurs were in a multi-team deal? Much less to open a roster spot they could have had three months earlier for negative $750k. Could happen, I guess, sure. But seems like a stretch given history. Ayon is just Baynes insurance is my guess. The Spurs are trying to bring back the team, make Baynes an offer, but if he gets priced out by a foreign team, they're just doing their due dilligence with Ayon. As Chinook mentioned, it would be great marketing to bring in a Mexican, if Baynes can't be resigned.

Regarding Ray Allen, every big name FA drops The Spurs name in the hat. I would be extremely surprised if he goes anywhere other than Cleveland. But, we have people on ST talking about both Ayon and Allen both coming to SA, so a multi-team deal must be in the works to clear two roster spots?

Maybe there is some other advantage to signing Daye, then trading him, but if he sucks so badly as all the Toms, Dicks, and Harrys that are calling to trade or cut him believe, who would want him? Expiring contract, I guess, after this year. Any other advantage to it? Would whatever The Spurs could get for him be worth more than the $750k and time they've already invested in him? Seems much more likely that The Spurs plan to use him.

Daye, hopefully, can be for Duncan what Belli was for Manu, Kawhi, and Danny, last year. Big minute eater and injury insurance/prevention.

[jeebus]

He's useless.

[littlecoyotecoin]

He's useless.

So are you, but we gave you a chance, too.

[jeebus]

So are you, but we gave you a chance, too.
What's wrong bruh? Mad that your boy is a shitty player?

[Silver&Black]

He's useless.

So is the last guy on every team's roster....

[ceperez]

Daye posted a couple of vids to his Instagram from another week at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas:

http://instagram.com/p/sRum0guoL8/

http://instagram.com/p/sRtrzcOoLL/

http://instagram.com/p/sRsp4tuoKC/

From his hashtags and his Spurs hat, he still seems totally bought in, and doesn't seem to feel like he's trade bait. I am a little bit surprised at all the trade talk. Multi-team deals to open up a roster spot they could have had by simply not opting into this year's contract and saving $750k at the same time? Seems like a bunch of ST posters are reaching. When was the last time The Spurs were in a multi-team deal? Much less to open a roster spot they could have had three months earlier for negative $750k. Could happen, I guess, sure. But seems like a stretch given history. Ayon is just Baynes insurance is my guess. The Spurs are trying to bring back the team, make Baynes an offer, but if he gets priced out by a foreign team, they're just doing their due dilligence with Ayon. As Chinook mentioned, it would be great marketing to bring in a Mexican, if Baynes can't be resigned.

Regarding Ray Allen, every big name FA drops The Spurs name in the hat. I would be extremely surprised if he goes anywhere other than Cleveland. But, we have people on ST talking about both Ayon and Allen both coming to SA, so a multi-team deal must be in the works to clear two roster spots?

Maybe there is some other advantage to signing Daye, then trading him, but if he sucks so badly as all the Toms, Dicks, and Harrys that are calling to trade or cut him believe, who would want him? Expiring contract, I guess, after this year. Any other advantage to it? Would whatever The Spurs could get for him be worth more than the $750k and time they've already invested in him? Seems much more likely that The Spurs plan to use him.

Daye, hopefully, can be for Duncan what Belli was for Manu, Kawhi, and Danny, last year. Big minute eater and injury insurance/prevention.

Lot's of haters in this forum.

Let the guy play for at least a year and then decide if he's any good.

There's more hate here than when Baynes joined the team mid-season. Baynes got the benefit of the doubt, but in contrast, everyone seems to hate Daye. What gives?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Lot's of haters in this forum.

Let the guy play for at least a year and then decide if he's any good.

There's more hate here than when Baynes joined the team mid-season. Baynes got the benefit of the doubt, but in contrast, everyone seems to hate Daye. What gives?

Yeah. Pretty ridiculous, really. He's played all of 14 games for 115 minutes, I think. 1/5 of that in one game. Shot 41% from 3 in that short span. The expectations from the haters are way out of line. What more can the last guy on the bench, making $1 million, who was traded for a 55th pick, do to satisfy them in 115 minutes of play. Laughable. He had no training camp and barely got any practices, had an injury and illness, and still managed to contribute some. Hate to beat a dead horse, but if he stays, I would expect even more. It's all gravy if he does, if not, they'll move on.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Nothing new in this piece, and some errors and WTF moments, but I thought it interesting that an NBA writer was thinking enough about Daye to write anything at all:

http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2014/08/28/can-austin-daye-be-another-steal-for-the-san-antonio-spurs/

[mkurts]

Austin Daye is the next Red Mamba of the Spurs ...

[TD 21]

With Bonner long re-signed and Baynes freshly re-signed, it begs the question: If this was their intent all along, then why did they pick up Daye's option in the first place?

To be clear, I like him as a depth stretch PF/emergency SF (though he has a good enough skill set to be a rotation player, the fact that he has no true defensive position will almost certainly ensure he never becomes one). So initially, I was in favor of picking up his option. But they've buried him and at this point his roster spot would be better served being utilized on a PG until Mills returns and a legitimate SF once he does.

[Chinook]

With Bonner long re-signed and Baynes freshly re-signed, it begs the question: If this was their intent all along, then why did they pick up Daye's option in the first place?

To be clear, I like him as a depth stretch PF/emergency SF (though he has a good enough skill set to be a rotation player, the fact that he has no true defensive position will almost certainly ensure he never becomes one). So initially, I was in favor of picking up his option. But they've buried him and at this point his roster spot would be better served being utilized on a PG until Mills returns and a legitimate SF once he does.

That seems like it was the reason. If you recall, Bonner wasn't sure the team was even going to bring him back. He was hanging out as a free agent most of July. Daye might have been expensive Bonner insurance that doubled as wing depth. With Anderson on board, I think that was strange, but it is what it is. Austin has to be the 15th man at this point, maybe tied at 14th with Ayres. He has an outside chance of cracking the rotation as the sixth or seventh front-court player, but he's also going to be the one the waive if they need a roster spot in a hurry, I feel.

[TD 21]

That seems like it was the reason. If you recall, Bonner wasn't sure the team was even going to bring him back. He was hanging out as a free agent most of July. Daye might have been expensive Bonner insurance that doubled as wing depth. With Anderson on board, I think that was strange, but it is what it is. Austin has to be the 15th man at this point, maybe tied at 14th with Ayres. He has an outside chance of cracking the rotation as the sixth or seventh front-court player, but he's also going to be the one the waive if they need a roster spot in a hurry, I feel.

Apparently, he was. I read something recently where he said he received interest from other teams but told them he was waiting on the Spurs, who told him they'd get to him once they wrapped up more pressing matters (besides Mills and Diaw, that probably meant waiting out Gasol and any other long shot free agent they might have had interest in).

I wouldn't be surprised if he's the 13th man ahead of Anderson, simply based on his experience, but it makes sense to have the latter activated, as an emergency ball handler is a far greater need than a third stretch PF/seventh big. Either way, I don't think he has any chance to rise higher than that and I agree, he's likely going to be waived if they need a roster spot for another perimeter player, which they probably will at some point.

[Chinook]

Apparently he was. I read something recently where he said he received interest from other teams but told them he was waiting on the Spurs, who told him they'd get to him once they wrapped up more pressing matters (besides Mills and Diaw, that probably meant waiting out Gasol and any other long shot free agent they might have had interest in).

I wouldn't be surprised if he's the 13th man ahead of Anderson, simply based off of his experience, but it makes more sense to have the latter activated, as an emergency ball handler is a far greater need than a third stretch PF/seventh big. Either way, I don't think he has any chance to rise higher than that and I agree, he's likely going to be waived if they need a roster spot for another perimeter player, which they probably will at some point. He only made sense to keep if it was to be the sixth big.

I think he will be if only because Kyle should spend most of the year in Austin. I just meant as far as their place in the team's plans.

Daye's best chance for a solid rotation spot is to beat out Beli for SF minutes. I think he could beat out Ayres as well, but it seems like Baynes will get the backup minutes at the five and Jeff will be out of the rotation. Either way, I expect the Spurs to have games in which Daye gets a good deal of burn, so he'll have time to show what he can do. If he gets cut, it won't be because he hasn't had a chance.

[TD 21]

I think he will be if only because Kyle should spend most of the year in Austin. I just meant as far as their place in the team's plans.

Daye's best chance for a solid rotation spot is to beat out Beli for SF minutes. I think he could beat out Ayres as well, but it seems like Baynes will get the backup minutes at the five and Jeff will be out of the rotation. Either way, I expect the Spurs to have games in which Daye gets a good deal of burn, so he'll have time to show what he can do. If he gets cut, it won't be because he hasn't had a chance.

Oh. I agree with that.

They've made it abundantly clear since they acquired him that they view him as a PF. Even if they saw him as a true combo forward, Belinelli's rotation spot isn't up for grabs. Fourth big is, but obviously Daye-Diaw can't work defensively/rebounding wise and let's face it, they're not re-working the substitution pattern of the big rotation to ensure they don't play together and accommodate Daye.

That's the problem: There is no role for him, which is why it only made sense to keep him if they were going to go with six bigs. As is, I don't see a purpose for him being on this team.

[jeebus]

Oh. I agree with that.

They've made it abundantly clear since they acquired him that they view him as a PF. Even if they saw him as a true combo forward, Belinelli's rotation spot isn't up for grabs. Fourth big is, but obviously Daye-Diaw can't work defensively/rebounding wise and let's face it, they're not re-working the substitution pattern of the big rotation to ensure they don't play together and accommodate Daye.

That's the problem: There is no role for him, which is why it only made sense to keep him if they were going to go with six bigs. As is, I don't see a purpose for him being on this team.
Yeah, it was pretty obvious that Pop wanted him in a Boner type role for this year. But since Boner is back, Daye is useless. And when the Spurs completely rebuild next year and bring over Bertans and company, Daye will either be bought out or traded this year, probably the latter. Hopefully packaged with Errors and Boylen.

[superbigtime]

Daye going to have to do the unexpected to stick around. Like rebound.

[ceperez]

For what it is worth, Austin Daye is the top scorer for the Spurs in this meaningless pre-season game against the Suns.

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/10/16/6991949/final-score-shorthanded-spurs-lose-to-suns-121-90

Austin Daye led the Spurs with 17 points and six rebounds. He finished 3-of-5 from deep and 6-9 overall.

[Chinook]

He was god awful in that game. Worst performance for that stat line I could imagine.

[littlecoyotecoin]

He was god awful in that game. Worst performance for that stat line I could imagine.

He had some mistakes. He is still proving to be foul-prone. Maybe out of position too often, but correctable? However, he did have some good defensive plays as well, mostly on interior defense. A little overboard with "god-awful", IMHO. But, maybe you have higher expectations for him.

Daye was well within the norm of suck for the group. Less suck, IMHO. Only had 1 turnover. Only the second game he's played, and he had only one turnover in the first as well. But, didn't shoot well in that first game. He was efficient on offense this time and didn't turn the ball over. Not all negative. I was ready to cast him out just due to his poor shooting and shot selection, sometimes, in SL and Turkey. If he can't shoot, he really has no place here. He had a horribly inefficient Summer League and Uker game. I don't expect him to be a great defender, but I do expect him to score. Hopefully his defense can continue to improve enough to have him on the court for his offense.

IMHO Parker and company looked far worse than Daye in many regards. Parker turning the ball over, etc. Danny losing his man over and over again. Belli looked like ass. Diaw was not good. There were a lot of guys that played even worse than Daye, and they were guys with infinitely more experience in the system than him. I was far more disappointed in them and more relatively pleased with Daye for this reason. Although, I'm not panicky about anything.

Hopefully Daye can continue to clean some stuff up. In Summer League and in these two preseason games I have yet to see him bite on an up-fake and land on the shooter for a foul. That was something he had done a few times in the 120 minutes he got to play for us at the end of last season. I don't know if they have worked on that, specifically, but it seems to have diminished. I'll take it, and hope he can continue to improve on defense.

[Chinook]

He had some mistakes. He is still proving to be foul-prone. Maybe out of position too often, but correctable? However, he did have some good defensive plays as well, mostly on interior defense. A little overboard with "god-awful", IMHO. But, maybe you have higher expectations for him.

Daye was well within the norm of suck for the group. Less suck, IMHO. Only had 1 turnover. Only the second game he's played, and he had only one turnover in the first as well. But, didn't shoot well in that first game. He was efficient on offense this time and didn't turn the ball over. Not all negative. I was ready to cast him out just due to his poor shooting and shot selection, sometimes, in SL and Turkey. If he can't shoot, he really has no place here. He had a horribly inefficient Summer League and Uker game. I don't expect him to be a great defender, but I do expect him to score. Hopefully his defense can continue to improve enough to have him on the court for his offense.

IMHO Parker and company looked far worse than Daye in many regards. Parker turning the ball over, etc. Danny losing his man over and over again. Belli looked like ass. Diaw was not good. There were a lot of guys that played even worse than Daye, and they were guys with infinitely more experience in the system than him. I was far more disappointed in them and more relatively pleased with Daye for this reason. Although, I'm not panicky about anything.

Hopefully Daye can continue to clean some stuff up. In Summer League and in these two preseason games I have yet to see him bite on an up-fake and land on the shooter for a foul. That was something he had done a few times in the 120 minutes he got to play for us at the end of last season. I don't know if they have worked on that, specifically, but it seems to have diminished. I'll take it, and hope he can continue to improve on defense.

Daye's problems are very concerning. He didn't seem to know where he was supposed to be on either side of the ball. He kept ruining spacing and taking the wrong assignments. It was terrible. You could see his teammates losing patience with him. He did a good job making something happen when he got the pass, but as far as a team score goes, it was about the worst performance I've seen from a Spurs player in a long, long time.

But hell, it's preseason. The fact that he shot well is comforting, since that's the primary reason why last year didn't go so well for him. If he can become a knock-down shooter, he'll receive playing time as the year. But if he goes out there like a chicken with his head cut off, he'll remain the guy who'll be first on the chopping block if the team needs a roster spot, I feel.

[ceperez]

Daye's problems are very concerning. He didn't seem to know where he was supposed to be on either side of the ball. He kept ruining spacing and taking the wrong assignments. It was terrible. You could see his teammates losing patience with him. He did a good job making something happen when he got the pass, but as far as a team score goes, it was about the worst performance I've seen from a Spurs player in a long, long time.

But hell, it's preseason. The fact that he shot well is comforting, since that's the primary reason why last year didn't go so well for him. If he can become a knock-down shooter, he'll receive playing time as the year. But if he goes out there like a chicken with his head cut off, he'll remain the guy who'll be first on the chopping block if the team needs a roster spot, I feel.

He was the most efficient scorer on the team. He had only one turnover. He was -7, only Baynes -5 and Cojo -1 had better. So there isn't any stats to back you up here other some subjective assessment of not knowing what to do.

[Chinook]

He was the most efficient scorer on the team. He had only one turnover. He was -7, only Baynes -5 and Cojo -1. So there isn't any stats to back you up here other some subjective assessment of not knowing what to do.

So?

[ceperez]

So?

So he wasn't 'God awful' that you claim.

[Chinook]

So he wasn't 'God awful' that you claim.

If you want to think that, fine. I had two statements in that quote, the latter of which is getting conveniently ignored. I know his stats; I saw the box score. I also watched the game, which is why I asserted that was the worst performance I could imagine for someone with his statline.

[ceperez]

He had some mistakes. He is still proving to be foul-prone. Maybe out of position too often, but correctable? However, he did have some good defensive plays as well, mostly on interior defense. A little overboard with "god-awful", IMHO. But, maybe you have higher expectations for him.

Daye was well within the norm of suck for the group. Less suck, IMHO. Only had 1 turnover. Only the second game he's played, and he had only one turnover in the first as well. But, didn't shoot well in that first game. He was efficient on offense this time and didn't turn the ball over. Not all negative. I was ready to cast him out just due to his poor shooting and shot selection, sometimes, in SL and Turkey. If he can't shoot, he really has no place here. He had a horribly inefficient Summer League and Uker game. I don't expect him to be a great defender, but I do expect him to score. Hopefully his defense can continue to improve enough to have him on the court for his offense.

IMHO Parker and company looked far worse than Daye in many regards. Parker turning the ball over, etc. Danny losing his man over and over again. Belli looked like ass. Diaw was not good. There were a lot of guys that played even worse than Daye, and they were guys with infinitely more experience in the system than him. I was far more disappointed in them and more relatively pleased with Daye for this reason. Although, I'm not panicky about anything.

Hopefully Daye can continue to clean some stuff up. In Summer League and in these two preseason games I have yet to see him bite on an up-fake and land on the shooter for a foul. That was something he had done a few times in the 120 minutes he got to play for us at the end of last season. I don't know if they have worked on that, specifically, but it seems to have diminished. I'll take it, and hope he can continue to improve on defense.

It is obvious from his SL stint and the last games that his two options on offense is (1) Space the floor and shoot the 3 and (2) in the event of a hard close out, to penetrate.

The Spurs also seem to want to play him at the 4, like they play Bonner.

Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed with his defense at that position.

[littlecoyotecoin]

It is obvious from his SL stint and the last games that his two options on offense is (1) Space the floor and shoot the 3 and (2) in the event of a hard close out, to penetrate.

The Spurs also seem to want to play him at the 4, like they play Bonner.

Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed with his defense at that position.

I thought he did pretty well down low, actually. He was having more issues out in space, in transition, or out on the perimeter.

[Hoops Czar]

If you want to think that, fine. I had two statements in that quote, the latter of which is getting conveniently ignored. I know his stats; I saw the box score. I also watched the game, which is why I asserted that was the worst performance I could imagine for someone with his statline.

Gary Neal and Marco Belinelli cynics would strongly disagree with the bolded.

[benefactor]

He needs to be cut. I have no reason why the Spurs guaranteed his contract.

If you are 26 and still haven't figured out how to be an NBA player you probably never will.

[exstatic]

He needs to be cut. I have no reason why the Spurs guaranteed his contract.

If you are 26 and still haven't figured out how to be an NBA player you probably never will.
It was a cheap minimum guarantee when they didn't know if Bonner wouldn't be back. Just another shooter over 6'10". He is the most expendable cut type contract on the roster, being the cheapest of the bottom three guys.

[ceperez]

He needs to be cut. I have no reason why the Spurs guaranteed his contract.

If you are 26 and still haven't figured out how to be an NBA player you probably never will.

So much hate. Baynes and Ayres are both 27. Bonner is retirement agent and all he does is space the floor.

Anyway, Daye's length and shooting ability is gold for the Spurs. Give him time to contribute before you call for him to get cut.

[jhuan16]

lol

[ceperez]

Oh no.... Austin Daye playing really well against the Kings.

[ceperez]

Interesting stat line... Austin Daye is tied with Leonard with most steals. Daye has 5 steals as of this date.

[freetiago]

this guys a terrible player
doesnt do anything well
hes suppose to be a shooter but he cant shoot either

[littlecoyotecoin]

this guys a terrible player
doesnt do anything well
hes suppose to be a shooter but he cant shoot either

You should try watching some games. He was second or third in 3pt% in the pre-season @42+%, I believe. That was also on the most attempts from three of any player. Ceperez just pointed out he is tied for most steals with Kawhi. So, he does some things well.

This is not to say he hasn't had some stinkers. He has. Like everyone else making far more than 1 million a year annd getting sporadic minutes. He's knocking the rust off just like everyone else on the team seems to be. He hasn't had a good start to the regular season, but hardly deserves much of the blame for these losses. That's on guys getting big minutes and big money. He will either round into shape, or be gone at the end of the season. Pretty simple chicken little.

In this last game he had a bad shooting night. The whole team did. Green was 2/10, I believe, and Kawhi was 3/13. Those dudes will be paid about a combined 20 Million per year next year.

Misplaced outrage.

[FireMicoHalili]

You should try watching some games. He was second or third in 3pt% in the pre-season @42+%, I believe. That was also on the most attempts from three of any player. Ceperez just pointed out he is tied for most steals with Kawhi. So, he does some things well.

This is not to say he hasn't had some stinkers. He has. Like everyone else making far more than 1 million a year annd getting sporadic minutes. He's knocking the rust off just like everyone else on the team seems to be. He hasn't had a good start to the regular season, but hardly deserves much of the blame for these losses. That's on guys getting big minutes and big money. He will either round into shape, or be gone at the end of the season. Pretty simple chicken little.

In this last game he had a bad shooting night. The whole team did. Green was 2/10, I believe, and Kawhi was 3/13. Those dudes will be paid about a combined 20 Million per year next year.

Misplaced outrage.
kind of weird though that you cherry-pick the amount of steals he's had yet slightly brush off his 3-13 shooting night, a facet of his game which was supposed to be his forte. Despite a 42% clip it was a horrible offseason for a 26-year-old NBA vet who kept saying he never had the chance to blossom. In the Phoenix game, which, I believe, was another chance to show off his wares as a Bonner replacement at least, he mustered a 2-7 shooting night, with nothing special to show for.

[FireMicoHalili]

but of course, there's the argument he gets paid only $1M, so no one really wins here. Except you, when he registers a decent game.

[mkurts]

A race to the bottom with Ayres and Daye, no sign of anything else.

[ElNono]

welp, can't say Pop didn't give him a chance when the inevitable trade/cut happens

[littlecoyotecoin]

kind of weird though that you cherry-pick the amount of steals he's had yet slightly brush off his 3-13 shooting night, a facet of his game which was supposed to be his forte. Despite a 42% clip it was a horrible offseason for a 26-year-old NBA vet who kept saying he never had the chance to blossom. In the Phoenix game, which, I believe, was another chance to show off his wares as a Bonner replacement at least, he mustered a 2-7 shooting night, with nothing special to show for.

I'm not glossing over his poor shooting. "Stinkers" is not meant to sound "good". 2/7 was one of the BETTER shooting displays that day, sadly, and 3/13 (Green and Leonard combined 1/10 in that game, his 2/7 game previou ...lazy edit) was bad, and still on par with our finals MVP and rumored max player, as well as DG, one of our 3-point specialists. Shooting woes are pervasive. Everyone is suffering from 3 except Parker. Because I don't overweigh it doesn't mean I ignore it. I have mentioned it several times.

I just don't rush to judgement on the 15th guy on the bench. His summer league wasn't great, but his shooting in preseason was acceptable.

He has played mostly poorly, but not any more or less so than most of the team, especially, again, based on expectations. We are talking about a roster spot sometimes filled with Bateers and Marks and DeColos. I am not afraid.

At the end of the season, he still looks very capable of ending with a 40+% from 3 year, but maybe not. I will wait until the end of the year. I won't wring my hands over this first 3 games, one of which he played 3 minutes.

Lastly, I don't cherry-pick anything. Acknowledging the good with the bad is being objective. Nothing else. The people that drive by saying: I hope Daye gets Ebola. Or, something of the sort, are the ones looking at the glass half-empty.

I have mentioned his fouling rate being to high about 10 times. And, lamented his poor shooting throughout the summer league. His shot selection needs to improve, some, too. He passes up some he should take, and takes some he should pass.

He's getting playing time, though, and NoNo is right. When the time comes, if he is released, I won't be crying that he didn't get a chance. He needs to knock down his shots, even if Belli, Diaw, Green, Manu and Leonard aren't.