Oklahoma City Thunder (#2) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (#7) II Playoff Series Thread

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol at OKC supporters for blaming the refs and saying Memphis got a fluky win. Sounds like these supporters are getting a tad nervous about Miami getting closer to that 3-peat and are praying OKC (who would be a walk in the park for Miami) can stop this Heatle Dynasty.

[Malik Hairston]

Indiana is having the biggest overall collapse of all-time IMO, but their collapse began in the regular season, so their playoff collapse isn't as bad as other examples of chokes(although still a huge choke, obviously)..

[RD2191]

Westbrook bricked 21 shots. "Supposed to win" my ass.

[baseline bum]

I will always remember that play, fisher literally piledrive elbowed barry in the top of the head as he was going up for the game winning 3....

Nah, it would have been for the tie.

[Killakobe81]

A couple observations:

Love Westbrook's heart but he needs to calm down, too many silly turnovers and forced shots.
2. Tony Allen is amazing on defense. Best perimeter defender in the game right now. Not many guys can stop Kd off the dribble.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Nah, it would have been for the tie.

We were down 2

[baseline bum]

We were down 2

Shit, you're right: it was for the win and should have brought the Spurs to 2-2 in the series with Barry's FTs... that is, unless Joey came and grabbed the ball out his hand before the last one.

Q8BiwBXqZJw

[jARS mEsH sEt]

:lol at OKC supporters for blaming the refs and saying Memphis got a fluky win. Sounds like these supporters are getting a tad nervous about Miami getting closer to that 3-peat and are praying OKC (who would be a walk in the park for Miami) can stop this Heatle Dynasty.

OKC can't beat Miami anyway so it's neither here nor there.

[ElNono]

cft8HAJD1EA

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Shit, you're right: it was for the win and should have brought the Spurs to 2-2 in the series with Barry's FTs... that is, unless Joey came and grabbed the ball out his hand before the last one.

Q8BiwBXqZJw

I was uncontrollably irate after that play, that was the season

[Splits]

Durant is averaging 47.8 min/game :lol
Chimpy is shooting 34% on 25.5 FGA/game :lmao

edit: FGA not FTA

[HI-FI]

It would be close, tbh, but the Spurs wouldn't be losing with prime Duncan and Ginobili(like KD and Chimpbrook)..
not to mention Parker is disappearing faster than normal, usually he waits a round or two.

[crc21209]

Thunderfan bitching to Spursfans about Joey stealing a game :lol

He actually did take one from the Spurs in the 08 WCF when he swallowed his whistle as Fisher plowed right into Brent Barry going up for the game tying shot at the buzzer

:cry But Joey stopped play for 10 seconds and made Durant miss the FT :cry
:cry How could KD be expected to score there? :cry

:lol No shit. Crawford has done waaay worse, and yet I'm sure the media will make a big ass deal about this one just because it's Durant...:cry:

[NASpurs]

Durant is averaging 47.8 min/game :lol
Chimpy is shooting 34% on 25.5 FTA/game :lmao

According to some here, the Grizzlies are fortunate not getting swept. They only win games because of fluke.

[313]

Thunderfan bitching to Spursfans about Joey stealing a game :lol

He actually did take one from the Spurs in the 08 WCF when he swallowed his whistle as Fisher plowed right into Brent Barry going up for the game tying shot at the buzzer

:cry But Joey stopped play for 10 seconds and made Durant miss the FT :cry
:cry How could KD be expected to score there? :cry
:cry he's only a 90% FT shooter

[313]

According to some here, the Grizzlies are fortunate not getting swept. They only win games because of fluke.
:lmao :tu

[baseline bum]

Chimpy is shooting 34% on 25.5 FGA/game :lmao

Wow, I had to double check that, it sounded so ridiculous. Could you imagine the media shitstorm if it was LeBron doing that against such a shit team?

[Kool Bob Love]

Durant is a better version of Larry Bird

Canadian.

[313]

Shit, you're right: it was for the win and should have brought the Spurs to 2-2 in the series with Barry's FTs... that is, unless Joey came and grabbed the ball out his hand before the last one.

Q8BiwBXqZJw
tbh fwiw if he would have shot it when fished jumped into the air he would have got the call. He waited too long to shoot + put the ball back on the floor

[DPG21920]

Where does Joey think he can get off talking to people like that? He's always screaming at the arena workers. You're a ref -GTFO with that, Joey. He needs to be Sterling'd.

[IrisHockey]

:lmao everyone prematurely ejaculating... the Thunder just need to win 1 road game, which is very capable for them, and Memphis has no chance in a winner-take-all game 7...

[crc21209]

WTF is Durant wearing? Gay shirt with a strap back cap..:lol

[MeloHype]

Grizz will be up 3-2 in the series, then refs will force a game 7:cry

[Kawhi]

:cry everyone prematurely ejaculating...:cry the Thunder just need to win 1 road game, which is very capable for them, and :cryMemphis has no chance in a winner-take-all game 7...

[Trainwreck2100]

Nba ain't gonna do shit to Crawford

A-he was in the right
2-lebron needs him

[crc21209]

Wow, I had to double check that, it sounded so ridiculous. Could you imagine the media shitstorm if it was LeBron doing that against such a shit team?

This. For all the shit LeBron has gotten over the past couple of years, Westbrook should be getting shit on for his stupid play and shot selection 10000x more..

[baseline bum]

:lmao everyone prematurely ejaculating... the Thunder just need to win 1 road game, which is very capable for them, and Memphis has no chance in a winner-take-all game 7...

I think OKC still takes the series, but this shit is funny seeing bitching about Crawford grabbing the ball out of Durant's hands as if that's a reason to lose a game.

[ElNono]

OKC still has a good shot, mostly because of MEM general ineptitude to make shots, make freebies, keep leads and because Conley has been terrible all this series...

But it's desperation time... either they come out with fire or the pressure is going to eat them up...

[crc21209]

:lol At the headline on Sportscenter right now. "Official Joey Crawford interrupts Durant at FT line." :lmao Get the fuck outta here..

[ElNono]

:lol At the headline on Sportscenter right now. "Official Joey Crawford interrupts Durant at FT line." :lmao Get the fuck outta here..

yeah, if you don't think that's gonna get play, forget about it... to be fair though, OKC hasn't been babied by the refs this series (so far)...

[Trainwreck2100]

yeah, if you don't think that's gonna get play, forget about it... to be fair though, OKC hasn't been babied by the refs this series (so far)...

Well no shit, they're losing. Asking old to play without the refs is like asking them to play 4 on 5

[ElNono]

:lol Scott Brooks
:lol burning up all timeouts with 2 mins left in the game
:lol "run the ball"
:lol 35ft 3 pointer from KD when you have 3 secs on the clock and you need 1 point to win

[313]

:lmao everyone prematurely ejaculating... the Thunder just need to win 1 road game, which is very capable for them, and Memphis has no chance in a winner-take-all game 7...
Yeah, because they've been playing great in Memphis :rolleyes

[313]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmccxUwIEAAUsIt.jpg

[Kawhi]

Yeah, because they've been playing great in Memphis :rolleyes
:cry they were coasting

[ElNono]

first to 100...

:wow forgot about this... :lol

[Jacob1983]

Memphis definitely needs to win game 6 at home. No fuckin' way the NBA lets them win a game 7 in OKC. If it goes to 7, NBA will flip the switch. OKC and Monkeyball in the 2nd round is a lot cuter for casual douchebag fans than Memphis and Monkeyball or Golden State.

[TampaDude]

LOL Thunder :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

2-lebron needs him

:lol LeBron didn't need him last June, tbh....

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol LeBron didn't need him last June, tbh....

25-3

[gambit1990]

on inside ej said there was something on sterling's gone fishin boat that no noticed. what was it?

[Clipper Nation]

on inside ej said there was something on sterling's gone fishin boat that no noticed. what was it?
The "White People Only" down the side of the boat, maybe? :lol

[spurraider21]

Thunderfan bitching to Spursfans about Joey stealing a game :lol

He actually did take one from the Spurs in the 08 WCF when he swallowed his whistle as Fisher plowed right into Brent Barry going up for the game tying shot at the buzzer

:cry But Joey stopped play for 10 seconds and made Durant miss the FT :cry
:cry How could KD be expected to score there? :cry
det Barry shot was a game winner. we were down 2. at worst they could have called it a non-shooting foul (which would have been wrong anyway) and Barry coulda sunk 2 to send it to OT

[gambit1990]

slim reaper is one of the better nicknames in the nba today but durbeta is much more prevalent (when westbrook isn't injured).

westbrick is 0-14 with one point in overtime this series, what is durant's fgm/fga/pts in overtime?

[gambit1990]

The "White People Only" down the side of the boat, maybe? :lol
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmcy0e2CIAA6ZGK.jpg:large

:lol

[chief keef]

memphis is clearly the better team. their one achilles heel is what allows okc to get back into games. otherwise, they've outplayed okc for about 80% of this series.

[Strange Love]

:lol slow down grasshopper

How's your outlook on that now El?

[Robz4000]

So what are the chances that Memphis actually manages to close the deal?

[spurraider21]

Chinook

[spurraider21]

:lmao everyone prematurely ejaculating... the Thunder just need to win 1 road game, which is very capable for them, and Memphis has no chance in a winner-take-all game 7...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916&p=7287074#post7287074)

[Chinook]

Chinook

As I told Nono, I missed most of the game. I only caught about half of the overtime. I don't want to venture a guess as to what happened to give Memphis their big lead, but OKC being able to come back so easily isn't encouraging to those who keep lauding Memphis' game plan. It seems to me that they pretty much are desperately trying to keep a lid on OKC, and they fail miserably when the Thunder feel equally desperate. This makes me feel that OKC is beating itself much like SA is doing against Dallas. I don't think the Grizzlies are any better than I originally thought. I still think they're getting lucky.

However, I don't know that since I've neither watched nor analyzed any of the recent games. I won't say you're wrong until I do so. In any event, I'm rooting for Memphis to finish OKC even though I expect the Thunder to demolish them in Game Six. I want to be wrong, but looking at how razor-thin Memphis' margin of error has been in this series despite everything going their way, I'm dubious.

[chief keef]

nigga hasn't watched the series, yet says everything has gone in one team's favor :downspin:

[dg7md]

Grizzlies are playing out of their minds, I don't really understand it. They're mentally tough, probably the toughest team in the whole NBA — but I still don't know if I see them winning this series.

Can they? They sure can, they've dominated the Thunder in most of the games, but still, talent-wise, OKC has them beat. They're pulling a Spurs and Pacers right now by letting lesser teams get into their heads.

[Robz4000]

As I told Nono, I missed most of the game. I only caught about half of the overtime. I don't want to venture a guess as to what happened to give Memphis their big lead, but OKC being able to come back so easily isn't encouraging to those who keep lauding Memphis' game plan. It seems to me that they're pretty much are desperately trying to keep a lid on OKC, and they fail miserably when the Thunder feel equally desperate. This makes me feel that OKC is beating itself much like SA is doing against Dallas. I don't think the Grizzlies are any better than I originally thought. I still think they're getting lucky.

However, I don't know that since I've neither watched nor analyzed any of the recent games. I won't say you're wrong until I do so. In any event, I'm rooting for Memphis to finish OKC even though I expect the Thunder to demolish them in Game Six. I want to be wrong, but looking at how razor-thin Memphis' margin of error has been in this series despite everything going their way, I'm dubious.

They got their lead by limiting TOs, Allen defending Durant well, and Westbrook being Westchuck. It also helped Miller and Prince were hitting early on (and Millet in OT). They had like 5 TOs total by the middle of the third quarter then turned it over 5 or 6 times in the span of a few mins and OKC (notably Butler) started jacking threes and hitting; Durant also got loose a bit and mailed some shots. Basically, there was some flukiness, but Memphis' game plan on D has worked great.

[Chinook]

nigga hasn't watched the series, yet says everything has gone in one team's favor :downspin:

You can tell that by looking at a box score, bro. These are Memphis-style games. The refs are allowing them to play aggressively on defense if last night's OT is a good indicator. I'm not saying every ball bounced their way or that they got every call. But they're absolutely controlling this series outside of random spurts in which OKC dominates them. The fact that they're squeaking by while winning 42 of 48 minutes every night does not really hearten me.

[Chinook]

They got their lead by limiting TOs, Allen defending Durant well, and Westbrook being Westchuck. It also helped Miller and Prince were hitting early on (and Millet in OT). They had like 5 TOs total by the middle of the third quarter then turned it over 5 or 6 times in the span of a few mins and OKC (notably Butler) started jacking threes and hitting; Durant also got loose a bit and mailed some shots. Basically, there was some flukiness, but Memphis' game plan on D has worked great.

Thanks for the recap. To me, that just highlights the idea that Memphis is just barely keeping the lid on the Thunder now. Reminds me a lot of those early Wizards/Bulls games. Difference is, I believe Memphis has a better killer instinct than Chicago does, while I also think OKC lacks one. That's why the Thunder can't finish their comebacks while Washington could.

I think OKC comes out swinging next game like they did in Game Three of the 2012 WCF. They do desperation well. But they may lose Game Seven since they can't seem to step on anyone's throats properly.

[ace3g]

HoopsHype @hoopshype (https://twitter.com/hoopshype)


Beno Udrih is averaging a career high 8.2 ppg in the playoffs. Previous best mark was 3.7.

[baseline bum]

first to 100...

Lawler's Law failed us in 6 :cry

[Captivus]

It felt like MEM had to win the game 3 times...amazing the amount of noob mistakes they had.
They deserved to win...
Durant missing a FT...priceless.

[pgardn]

Perkins is an offensive zero and Gasol is roaming the lane waiting for Durant and others.
Gasol is really the key man allowing Allen latitude to play close.
Perkins minutes are up to handle Randolph which is horrible for OKC on offense.

Scotty Brooks is doing a horrible job imo. OKC has looked frantic on offense the entire series when they can't get a break.
When Memphis scores or is at the foul line OKC can't run. Memphis may be lucky, but they are keeping the games close so they can get lucky. Even after blowing leads they are hanging.

[TampaDude]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916&p=7287074#post7287074)

M...M...M...MONKEYBALLIN'!!! :lol

[IrisHockey]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231916&p=7287074#post7287074)

:lol you just love being the most annoying poster on the history of ST.. That's OK. That's your only worth on this forum, and you're proud of it.

Go, Go, Spurraider! They're all laughing at you in the back! You must be doing something right!

[Clipper Nation]

Lawler's Law failed us in 6 :cry
Tbh, it's only right about 90% of the time.... LeBron, Ray, and ElNono's client made sure you were in the 10% :lol

[jeebus]

pity post

[ElNono]

Tbh, it's only right about 90% of the time.... LeBron, Ray, and ElNono's client made sure you were in the 10% :lol

Made my money tho :lol

[rogues]

Chinook makes all these long dry posts in an attempt to analyze the game without even watching the games:lol..watch the games, boy..

[rogues]

pity post
#thunderobsessed

[spurraider21]

:lol you just love being the most annoying poster on the history of ST.. That's OK. That's your only worth on this forum, and you're proud of it.

Go, Go, Spurraider! They're all laughing at you in the back! You must be doing something right!
Weak response. Even your boy band crew didn't respond with ":lmao.."

just practice what you preach. don't bust your load then laugh at others for doing the same

[ElNono]

Thanks for the recap. To me, that just highlights the idea that Memphis is just barely keeping the lid on the Thunder now. Reminds me a lot of those early Wizards/Bulls games. Difference is, I believe Memphis has a better killer instinct than Chicago does, while I also think OKC lacks one. That's why the Thunder can't finish their comebacks while Washington could.

I think OKC comes out swinging next game like they did in Game Three of the 2012 WCF. They do desperation well. But they may lose Game Seven since they can't seem to step on anyone's throats properly.

I tell you exactly what Memphis is doing, since you haven't watched: they've completely zoned out the paint for OKC. No layups, no putbacks, no rebounding. OKC gets one jumper and it better go in. Slow pace, minimize turnovers and transition baskets.

If Westbrook or KD want to drive, they made it so the odds are 50+% that it's going to be a blocked shot or a turnover trying to kick it out. It's truly amazing to watch. Completely neutered the penetration game.
The extra bonus is that Ibaka is neutered and reduced to a jump shooter. Scotty even tried to make him a 3 point shooter, but Memphis will gladly live with that, since that actually reduces the tear and wear on their bigs.

OKC came out swinging in game 4 too, and that went to OT again after Reggie Jackson solved the penetration puzzle for about 2 quarters (and dropped 31 points on them). Joerger adjusted that in the last game, and it's back to the drawing board.
We have 5 games already played, 4 went to overtime and none were really a blowout (both teams gave up large leads in different games). Hard to call it a fluke with that sample size, tbh.

Memphis is hanging by a thread simply because Conley has been horrible, and ZBo has missed so many jumpers and freebies. It's almost better for OKC to foul him at this point.
OKC has infinitely much more talent than Mem, but Mem is the way more disciplined team in this series with a solid game plan, and fairly solid execution.

[spurraider21]

I've neither watched nor analyzed any of the recent games.


You can tell that by looking at a box score
I need that gif of Stephen a smith shaking his head. You proceed to give these long posts analyzing these games after claiming you haven't analyzed them. We also all know that box score watching is basically never sufficient in breaking a game down except for baseball

[Chinook]

I need that gif of Stephen a smith shaking his head. You proceed to give these long posts analyzing these games after claiming you haven't analyzed them. We also all know that box score watching is basically never sufficient in breaking a game down except for baseball

No, when I mean analyze, I mean REALLY analyze, like charting things and breaking down plays. I don't mean a half-assed box score interpretation. You can tell pace from box score, but you can't tell shot quality and level of aggressiveness and things like that.

[Chinook]

Chinook makes all these long dry posts in an attempt to analyze the game without even watching the games:lol..watch the games, boy..

:lol If you think that's a long post, you don't want to see an actual analysis when I post it. By no means did I claim my previous posts in this thread were my take on what has happened.

[rogues]

:lol I've never seen you post a basketball analysis of that sort..you aren't all that, tbh..I'm not impressed by any of your posts..your type belong at realgm where posts can be paragraph long 300-worded takes of nothing but dry shit..the fact that you haven't watched any games in this series yet you claim that you know certain aspects of the game(s) is as intellectually dishonest as it can get..

[Malik Hairston]

Chinook is legit, tbh, solid poster..

[spurraider21]

He is. This thread has been funny though. Also josh freeman

[Chinook]

:lol I've never seen you post a basketball analysis of that sort..you aren't all that, tbh..I'm not impressed by any of your posts..your type belong at realgm where posts can be paragraph long 300-worded takes of nothing but dry shit..the fact that you haven't watched any games in this series yet you claim that you know certain aspects of the game(s) is as intellectually dishonest as it can get..

I'll clarify right now: You're right that I'm not "all that." I am not a basketball expert or even much more than an average fan. I'm not going to bring any Earth-shattering insight or professional-level breakdowns. What I can do is actually look at the games and find trends and strategies that other folks aren't really emphasizing. Anyone can do that.

I am not making a strong claim about this series precisely because I haven't watched most of the games. I am not saying my original take on Memphis is correct. I don't know that. If you want, I can tentatively agree that it wasn't and accept that the Grizzlies are leading this series because they are a much better team than I had thought. Whatever. What I have been saying is that I intend to actually look at the games and try to see exactly why Memphis is winning. I may get the same results as everyone here gets, or I may get different ones. It's not about me trying to not admit I was wrong. It's about me wanting to see why I was wrong or why so many people believe I was wrong.

[Chinook]

He is. This thread has been funny though. Also josh freeman

:cryFreeman's legit, bro.:cry

[313]

Memphis could have played better in the first half, but they did get back in the game, and that's when the refs stepped in. A couple no calls, a couple fouls on Zbo to get him out of the game, and just like that it was a 14 point game.

No worries though. Memphis should have more confidence going into game 2 after overcoming such a deficit rather than if they were going into game 2 after getting 30 balled.

If Allen is healthy I still think it's Griz in 6.

[DPG21920]

What sucks is when OKC beats MEM and advances, Durant is going to be a monster again. Not only will their be no Tony Allen physically, there won't be one mentally and Durant is going to pummel his next opponent and OKC will go back to beasting.

I really, really hope that MEM can hold their game plan together and find enough offense to finish the job next game.

[ElNono]

What sucks is when OKC beats MEM and advances, Durant is going to be a monster again. Not only will their be no Tony Allen physically, there won't be one mentally and Durant is going to pummel his next opponent and OKC will go back to beasting.

I really, really hope that MEM can hold their game plan together and find enough offense to finish the job next game.

Yeah, matchups are king in the playoffs... I think same applies to the Spurs actually.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, matchups are king in the playoffs... I think same applies to the Spurs actually.

I don't think it does. Mavs are one of the best match ups for the Spurs and look at their struggles.

[Mugen]

Both the Spurs and Thunder potentially losing their series has nothing to do with matchup issues tbh. Just huge chokejobs on both teams' part.

[DPG21920]

Yup - and there is no boogie man on the Mavs. Kevin Durant has a boogie man in Tony Allen and once he's gone, you will see a massive difference.

[spurraider21]

Yup - and there is no boogie man on the Mavs. Kevin Durant has a boogie man in Tony Allen and once he's gone, you will see a massive difference.
Westbrook

[BillMc]

Didn't see these already posted, but wasn't going to scroll through the whole thread.

Nice Coach Nick video on the pros and cons of Westbrook against the Grizzlies in Game 5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuCeRWuriU&list=UUSpvjDk06HLxBaw8sZw7SkA

[Jacob1983]

I really want Memphis to close this out at home. Would love to see Memphis embarrass monkeyball in the 2nd round.

[ElNono]

Didn't see these already posted, but wasn't going to scroll through the whole thread.

Nice Coach Nick video on the pros and cons of Westbrook against the Grizzlies in Game 5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuCeRWuriU&list=UUSpvjDk06HLxBaw8sZw7SkA

:lmao at the start of the video I read "Russell Westbrook, The Good, The Bad, The Meth" (instead of Meh)

[Gummi Clutch]

:lmao at the start of the video I read "Russell Westbrook, The Good, The Bad, The Meth" (instead of Meh)
:lmao

[BillMc]

:lmao at the start of the video I read "Russell Westbrook, The Good, The Bad, The Meth" (instead of Meh)

:lol

[MeloHype]

http://i.imgur.com/7uiaRO2.png

[said7]

Do OKC fans like Westchuck? He's prob the Tony Romo of Basketball.

[Venti Quattro]

Westbrook in 4 overtime games in the series:

1 point, 0/14 from the field

[D-Wade]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmjNBtUCQAAN3vY.jpg


:lmao

[Mugen]

It's insane how Memphis has won 3 overtimes in this series. Especially, when all those games went into overtime because of some miraculous OKC plays.

I guess they're mentally tough but it probably helps they're playing one of the stupidest teams in the league tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

westBrOKE :lmao :lmao let's close it out tonight grizz!

[Venti Quattro]

It's insane how Memphis has won 3 overtimes in this series. Especially, when all those games went into overtime because of some miraculous OKC plays.

I guess they're mentally tough but it probably helps they're playing one of the stupidest teams in the league tbh
It's equally amazing that Memphis blew fourth quarter leads in all of the three overtime games they won. You can question how they manage leads but you can never question their balls.

[Killakobe81]

I have been of the biggest Westbrook apologists. I cannot defend his shot selection and sloppy play down the stretch of games. he makes amazing breth-taking plays but also some of the dumbest bone head plays of the post-season.

I dont get though why this board is not giving Durant some of the blame. I also am a big KD fan. But Allen has locked him up. He has admitted as such, with the Allen is in my head stuff.
The best scorer since Mj according to HH is averaging 20.5 on 33% FG% and just under 6 turnovers with the series on the line.
He has Reggie Jackson playing a Jannero Pargo role and Allen looking like the DMVP. Allen deserves all the accolades but shouldn't great offense especially an all-time great scorer beat Allen's defense?

I am sorry but some of you on here are fucking hypocrites. When Lebron was on the Cavs his supporters argued what can he do with Mo williams as his #2? Haters he needs to win he is the MVP. But durant gets a pass?
Yes, Brooks is a shitty coach.
YEs, Presti was a dumbass for letting Harden walk.
YEs russ shoots too much.
But Durant is the star. Het gets the lion's share of the praise he should get the lion's share of the blame. PERIOD.

You guys only crucify the guys you hate. Many claim to love stats and advanced metrics by any measure Durant has been less than stellar vs. Allen and dem Grizz.

[Venti Quattro]

I have been of the biggest Westbrook apologists.

His performance in this series is indefensible. If he pulled that shit in UCLA I would wrap in with duct tape together with tommy

[ElNono]

I have been of the biggest Westbrook apologists. I cannot defend his shot selection and sloppy play down the stretch of games. he makes amazing breth-taking plays but also some of the dumbest bone head plays of the post-season.

I dont get though why this board is not giving Durant some of the blame. I also am a big KD fan. But Allen has locked him up. He has admitted as such, with the Allen is in my head stuff.
The best scorer since Mj according to HH is averaging 20.5 on 33% FG% and just under 6 turnovers with the series on the line.
He has Reggie Jackson playing a Jannero Pargo role and Allen looking like the DMVP. Allen deserves all the accolades but shouldn't great offense especially an all-time great scorer beat Allen's defense?

I am sorry but some of you on here are fucking hypocrites. When Lebron was on the Cavs his supporters argued what can he do with Mo williams as his #2? Haters he needs to win he is the MVP. But durant gets a pass?
Yes, Brooks is a shitty coach.
YEs, Presti was a dumbass for letting Harden walk.
YEs russ hoots too much.
But Durant is the star. Het gets the lion's share of the praise he should get the lion's share of the blame. PERIOD.

You guys only crucify the guys you hate. Many claim to love stats and advanced metrics by any measure Durant has been less than stellar vs. Allen and dem Grizz.

Not making excuses for them, but they're a fucking disorganized team trying to win on talent and athleticism alone. They have such an advantage in those areas, that it works against 90% of the league, but it isn't working this series. Memphis erected one wall in the paint (Gasol), and one wall in the perimeter (Allen), and after five games they're still trying to jump over them. "Run the ball, run the ball" isn't going to get it done.

They know full well what Memphis is doing, but they keep trying to go one on one, or jacking up ridiculous shots. In Game 4, they did a conscious job of moving the ball, and Reggie gave them a huge lift, but by the end of the game, Scotty kept running ISO plays for Reggie. You can't do that. If you're getting shit moving the ball, keep moving the ball. By Game 5, Reggie was a non-factor again, and instead you had Caron and Fisher hitting 3s any time they moved the ball. At the end of the game, down only 1, he draws a 35ft heave for Durant wrapped around 3 defenders? I mean, Durant could make that, he's that good, but that's really the best you can come up with? You had 3 seconds to work with.

[Mugen]

:lol OKC losing this series is 1000x more a choke than the Spurs getting 8'd in 2011 tbh. Not even close.

[Venti Quattro]

:lol OKC losing this series is 1000x more a choke than the Spurs getting 8'd in 2011 tbh. Not even close.

Not really. Nobody knew in 2011 that the Grizzlies had it in them to knock out the 60-win Spurs. Fast forward to 2014, you just know that the Grizzlies will give a lot of trouble to any of their playoff opponents .

[Trainwreck2100]

Not really. Nobody knew in 2011 that the Grizzlies had it in them to knock out the 60-win Spurs. Fast forward to 2014, you just know that the Grizzlies will give a lot of trouble to any of their playoff opponents .
First off the grizzlies tanked to play the spurs.
Secondly nobody on that team was the mvp. Who would end up getting their award at a press conference

[Mugen]

Not really. Nobody knew in 2011 that the Grizzlies had it in them to knock out the 60-win Spurs. Fast forward to 2014, you just know that the Grizzlies will give a lot of trouble to any of their playoff opponents .

-2011 Z-Bo is miles better than any 2014 Grizzlies player
-2014 OKC is a much better team than the 2011 Spurs
-:lol OKC has the MVP of the league while the Spurs' best player that year missed a game and played the rest of the series with a broken arm

2011 might have been more surprising but OKC potentially losing this series is by far a bigger choke.

[Killakobe81]

His performance in this series is indefensible. If he pulled that shit in UCLA I would wrap in with duct tape together with tommy

I agree.
In college his athleticism made up for his lack of hoops savvy.

ALso LOL at the Memphis paper apologizing for calling Durant Mr. Unreliable ...
SO is this more fuel for Durant's fire does he come out with a game like Lebron did when facing elimination vs. the Pacers last season?

A HUGE game for Durant.
Could be first MVP since Dirk to get award while not being a active playoff member.

Good news in 2011 Dirk made up for it ...but can Durant wait 5-6 years to ring?

[Venti Quattro]

Hm maybe because I am attributing choke to surprise factor. Memphis also choked on a lot of times but the Thunder have found a way to out-choke them.

[Trainwreck2100]

Hm maybe because I am attributing choke to surprise factor. Memphis also choked on a lot of times but the Thunder have found a way to out-choke them.
And its fucking glorious.

[ElNono]

-2011 Z-Bo is miles better than any 2014 Grizzlies player
-2014 OKC is a much better team than the 2011 Spurs
-:lol OKC has the MVP of the league while the Spurs' best player that year missed a game and played the rest of the series with a broken arm

2011 might have been more surprising but OKC potentially losing this series is by far a bigger choke.

yeah, not even close. And Manu that series was good, but nowhere near as good as today's KD or even Russ, tbh

[cd021]

Westbrook in 4 overtime games in the series:

1 point, 0/14 from the field

Thats an insane stat, unbelievable.

[ElNono]

Heck, Conley was playing out of his mind in 2011... shut down Tony and matched his output on offense... in this series, Conley has been ass most of it...

[Venti Quattro]

Come to think of it, this series might have been over if Reggie Jackson did not bail out Durant and Westbrook in game 4.

[baseline bum]

I have been of the biggest Westbrook apologists. I cannot defend his shot selection and sloppy play down the stretch of games. he makes amazing breth-taking plays but also some of the dumbest bone head plays of the post-season.

I dont get though why this board is not giving Durant some of the blame. I also am a big KD fan. But Allen has locked him up. He has admitted as such, with the Allen is in my head stuff.
The best scorer since Mj according to HH is averaging 20.5 on 33% FG% and just under 6 turnovers with the series on the line.
He has Reggie Jackson playing a Jannero Pargo role and Allen looking like the DMVP. Allen deserves all the accolades but shouldn't great offense especially an all-time great scorer beat Allen's defense?

I am sorry but some of you on here are fucking hypocrites. When Lebron was on the Cavs his supporters argued what can he do with Mo williams as his #2? Haters he needs to win he is the MVP. But durant gets a pass?
Yes, Brooks is a shitty coach.
YEs, Presti was a dumbass for letting Harden walk.
YEs russ shoots too much.
But Durant is the star. Het gets the lion's share of the praise he should get the lion's share of the blame. PERIOD.

You guys only crucify the guys you hate. Many claim to love stats and advanced metrics by any measure Durant has been less than stellar vs. Allen and dem Grizz.

I guess I still expect Durant to show up and won't throw dirt on him until they lose that fourth game, but Westbrook is just doing what he always does.

[Mugen]

IMO, the only other West team the Grizzlies would beat this postseason would be the Warriors. Outside of GSW and OKC, I think every other West team takes this Memphis team out in 6 or less. As Nono pointed out, Conley has been shitty so far and Z-Bo has been very up and down. Their best player has been Tony Freakin' Allen.

It's just crazy that the only reason the Thunder haven't lost 4-1 is a monster performance from the Toxic Avenger Reggie Jackson.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I honestly don't know how I feel about tonights game, tbh. Playing OKC again would be even easier than the 5 game sweep was in 2012 for Miami. Seeing OKC lose in round 1 would also be hilarious.

[Chinook]

Not really. Nobody knew in 2011 that the Grizzlies had it in them to knock out the 60-win Spurs. Fast forward to 2014, you just know that the Grizzlies will give a lot of trouble to any of their playoff opponents .

The Spurs back in 2011 were a paper tiger, even though they may well have made it to the Finals that year had they stayed healthy. As I said in the Pacers thread, the Spurs only have six players from the 2011 team on their roster currently. The Big Three were really the only rotation players from that team that still are part of today's rotation (Bonner was in the 2011 rotation but it out of the current one for the most part, while Green and Splitter were deep-bench players in 2011). When you think about the continuity the Spurs are known for, that amount of turnover says a lot about the quality of that roster.

[Venti Quattro]

Westbrook's addition to the roster has been negative for Oklahoma. If he has any positive effect for them, I would need a microscope to see it.

Before he came back: 43-12
Since he came back: 18-14

[Venti Quattro]

I honestly don't know how I feel about tonights game, tbh. Playing OKC again would be even easier than the 5 game sweep was in 2012 for Miami. Seeing OKC lose in round 1 would also be hilarious.
Miami will three peat anyway so does it matter at this point?

[21209]

yeah, if you don't think that's gonna get play, forget about it... to be fair though, OKC hasn't been babied by the refs this series (so far)...

Refs can't bail them out if Westbrook and Durant keep shooting ill-advised 25-30 foot 3 point shots.

[sook]

KD gonna go ham tonight.

[baseline bum]

I honestly don't know how I feel about tonights game, tbh. Playing OKC again would be even easier than the 5 game sweep was in 2012 for Miami. Seeing OKC lose in round 1 would also be hilarious.

What the fuck does Heat fan care? Unless LeBron gets hit by a truck they have an easy three-peat. Thunder suck, Spurs suck, Pacers suck, they have no competition whatsoever.

[TampaDude]

In the 4 overtimes in this series, Westchuck is a combined 0-14 from the field with only 1 point. :lmao

[TampaDude]

What the fuck does Heat fan care? Unless LeBron gets hit by a truck they have an easy three-peat. Thunder suck, Spurs suck, Pacers suck, they have no competition whatsoever.

^ this, tbh

Unless the Spurs make the Finals, the Miami threepeat is in the bag. They might just be the first team to go 16-0 in the playoffs.

[313]

I think the Wizards can give MIA problems tbh Nene and Gortat gonna take Bosh to school.

[cd021]

I think the Wizards can give MIA problems tbh Nene and Gortat gonna take Bosh to school.

Washington seems like a more dangerous version of Indiana last season. quick PGs and talented bigs tend to give the Heat problems. perfect blend of youth and vet experience.

[oh crap]

KD gonna go ham tonight.

I sure as fuck hope so.

[cd021]

What the fuck does Heat fan care? Unless LeBron gets hit by a truck they have an easy three-peat. Thunder suck, Spurs suck, Pacers suck, they have no competition whatsoever.

I disagree . The Spurs are significantly better than last season. They match-up much better with Miami, more than any other team, and would have HCA. Miami was only slightly better than Indi post all star break.

The Spurs getting tested early should bode well instead off cake walking to the semis.

[Chinook]

Washington seems like a more dangerous version of Indiana last season. quick PGs and talented bigs tend to give the Heat problems. perfect blend of youth and vet experience.

Yeah. They have two decent options to throw at Lebron in Ariza and Webster, who both can hit threes at a good enough rate to put pressure on the Heat's defense. Wall is obviously better than Hill, and Beal is better than Stephenson. It really comes down to whether the Heat can force Washington to play small or not. If Nene or Gortat can get away with playing Battier or whomever on defense, then Miami may really struggle. Andre Miller gives the Wizards a third ball-handler to pair with Beal and Wall, which is something the Spurs didn't have in the Finals last season. It would be an interesting series, at least on paper.

[BatManu20]

Durant's going off tonight. You can pretty much guarantee that. Sorry Memphis.

[baseline bum]

I disagree . The Spurs are significantly better than last season. They match-up much better with Miami, more than any other team, and would have HCA. Miami was only slightly better than Indi post all star break.

The Spurs getting tested early should bode well instead off cake walking to the semis.

No way the Spurs are as good as last year with Parker looking completely worn down. They're significantly worse than last season. Dallas is in no way some kind of nightmare matchup; Spurs just aren't playing well at all other than last night.

[RD2191]

KD is a faggot.

[rogues]

Look for Kevin Durant to have no less than 40 points tonight along with rebounds, assists and a couple of steals..

[313]

LMAO at that foul on zbo. Refs may take this over

[Cry Havoc]

I said a couple of years ago that a team with Westbrook as a top player would never win a title.

[FkLA]

faggy ass foul on gasol tbh

[313]

Why isn't TA on Durant?

[Cry Havoc]

Durant gonna put up 50 shots this game.

[313]

Zbo and Gasol playing like pussies

[Cry Havoc]

Zbo and Gasol playing like pussies

Tiago stole their mojo!

[313]

Tayshaun Prince should not be playing

[RD2191]

Fawk.

[Captivus]

both teams feeling the pressure.

[oh crap]

come on KD

[BatManu20]

It's crazy that this is the same Tayshaun Prince that was a really good player for the Pistons in the early-to-mid 2000's tbh. Guy has absolutely nothing left in the tank.

[spursparker9]

:lol

MVP of the series is OKC newspaper editor.

[ElNono]

Kevin read the newspaper

[313]

Wtf is the coach of the Grizzlies thinking, putting Tayshaun on KD when TA has been putting him on clamps??

[rogues]

I feel so sorry for all those Memphis fans in attendance and people all around the world watching the game..the MVP just woke up..

[RD2191]

Son of a bitch.

[RD2191]

Game

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah, Z-Bo wasn't fouled there

[IrisHockey]

Son of a bitch.

:lol this is why I like Rob, heart of pure gold..

[Cry Havoc]

Refs out in full force atm, tbh

[Wiz]

Durant is going for 45 tonight, tbh..

If he doesn't, I'll wear a Kobe Bryant avatar for 2 weeks..
Welcher

[rogues]

:lol this is why I like Rob, heart of pure gold..
He's a cute little poster, tbh..

[ace3g]

Gasol keeping them in it

[lefty]

Cum back

[313]

M(VP)ARK GASOL

[313]

But seriously, where is Tony Allen?

[Wiz]

He's a cute little poster, tbh..
No surprise to see you say another man is cute

[spursparker9]

Westbrook is not forcing shot...

just like in game 4 that leads to OKC win

[IrisHockey]

He's a cute little poster, tbh..

:lol in a good way... he's just so harmless and innocent that I admire people like him..

[oh crap]

11 pt okc lead cut to 5 just like that. okc needs to pull away.

[313]

Lmfao refs

[Spur-Addict]

That whistle is just flying around tonight :rollin

[BatManu20]

11 pt okc lead cut to 5 just like that. okc needs to pull away.

Why are you pulling so hard for OKC tbh

[rogues]

The refs have this game under control..first time this series..

[ElNono]

they've been avoiding sending OKC to the line all series... they fuck up in this game... smh

[Strange Love]

Gasol got one of the wierdest shot releases I've seen. His feet barely get off the floor when he's pulling up for a jumper. Makes me mad everytime he makes them.

[spursparker9]

Refs taking no chances.

thunderef mode on at start of game

[TheGoldStandard]

Now that the sterling this is out of the way, looks like the refs got there orders

[313]

Refs taking no chances.

thunderef mode on at start of game

[ElNono]

Memphis choking freebies, per par

[spursparker9]

Free throws killing Memphis again

[rogues]

Annnnd here come the posters crying foul about the officiating:lol..

[oh crap]

The refs have this game under control..first time this series..

[BatManu20]

Annnnd here come the posters crying foul about the officiating:lol..

You'd be bitching too if you weren't pulling so hard for OKC tbh

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[Robz4000]

I've seen enough. Meth taking the series from here.

[oh crap]

Annnnd here come the posters crying foul about the officiating:lol..

right on cue. :lol

[rogues]

You'd be bitching too if you weren't pulling so hard for OKC tbh
Yes I'm bitching about OKC getting two less free throws so far..

[Robz4000]

:lol the fuck was that?

[MeloHype]

What a terrible call

[313]

He was passing lmao

[KaiRMD1]

When did Randolph stop making his free throws? around what year, after 2011?

[RD2191]

Memphis shitting the bed.

[Robz4000]

This is game 1 all over again...

[313]

Tonyyy

[Spur-Addict]

You'd be bitching too if you weren't pulling so hard for OKC tbh

He doesn't really care, he's just trolling.

[ElNono]

KD been amazing this game so far, tbh... aggressive from the start

[KaiRMD1]

:lol at anyone who doesn't think this game is going to overtime

[Budkin]

Looks like both the favorites will be surviving tonight.

[313]

Just keep it close, Memphis.

[ElNono]

zbo now hitting the jumpers he missed in all the other games

[ElNono]

Both teams choked large leads in this series... too early to call either way

[Splits]

Chucky and Acne must have been instructed by Shitty to stop jacking up 3s, only 1 attempt between the two of them thus far.

[313]

MILLER333

[RD2191]

Ugly ass African

[KaiRMD1]

Huh?

[RD2191]

Yes

[Spur-Addict]

Beno with the accidental goods :lol

[RD2191]

Mother fucker

[313]

Jackson is such a pest

[TheGoldStandard]

Memphis with the even more non offensive lineups humanly possible.

[313]

Miller333

[BatManu20]

Jackson is such a pest

Turned into a solid player though. Will likely make some good money in FA next summer.

[RD2191]

Milli Mike

[Robz4000]

Miller continuing where he left off from tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Mike Miller the only one with skins on the wall

[313]

Memphis' defense looks undeterwhelming so far

[Robz4000]

:lmao Lebron app?!

[spursparker9]

Westbrook being reserved and letting Reggie Jackson to score make OKC so much dangerous

[RD2191]

Lebron app. Rofl. Rivaling Kobe for most overrated of all time.

[spursparker9]

:lmao Lebron app?!

:lmao

[rogues]

:lmao Lebron app?!
Deserving..

[313]

This series would be over if these niggas made FTs

[Splits]

http://i.imgur.com/6dOtlGJ.jpg

[testies]

i'm not watching... does memphis have a chance by the looks of it?

[Robz4000]

What atrocious FT shooting...

[313]

i'm not watching... does memphis have a chance by the looks of it?Yep, but 3-9 from the FT isn't doing themselves any favors

[ElNono]

Memphis won't go away

[ElNono]

tied game in ATL

[Splits]

Memphis won't go away

Story of the series, besides Chimpchuck's chucking

[rogues]

The refs keeping Memphis in the game:lol..

[RD2191]

Thunderups treehouse.

[MI21]

I've never seen the referees let players attack Durant's dribble like Allen is.

Skinny nigga doesn't have the strength to fend off that shit like LeBron does, but normally the whistle comes.

[ElNono]

Thunderups treehouse.

terrible commercial

[RD2191]

Pinche vato

[RD2191]

This is an outrage

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Memphis is gonna blow this series

[Robz4000]

Grizz playing like dogshit unfortunately.

[Spur-Addict]

Grizz setting up the dramatic comenack

[rogues]

:lol This team just woke up, NBA = fucked..

[mclinejr]

Deserving..

How exactly does someone "deserve" their own app?

[testies]

The refs keeping Memphis in the game:lol..

cry

[spursparker9]

Today is game 7 for MEM.

Gonna be a full blown out in OKC in game 7

[oh crap]

Grizz playing like dogshit unfortunately.

or is OKC just playing more like themselves?

[Malik Hairston]

:lol damn, OKC stopped coasting, tbh..

Coasting would hurt them later on, they aren't Miami, but it's fine against this shitty Memphis team..

[Texas_Ranger]

Memphis just didnt come to play.

[spursparker9]

:lol This team just woke up, NBA = fucked..

The newspaper chief editor is the MVP

[IrisHockey]

:lol 118 pages of hope and despair from SF, only for the series to end in 7, OKC taking it.

:lol what was all that effort for?

[Spurs da champs]

Marc Gasol is a stiff who can pass, that is all. Dude can't even take advantage of Durant, :lol.

[RD2191]

Rofl scrub ass butler

[rogues]

:lol Russ!!..

[MI21]

Gasol posting up with Splitter like intensity against Durant :lol

[testies]

Memphis will win game 7, its the story of the series

[BanditHiro]

series over...hopefully tony allen injures Durant or Fisher.

[mclinejr]

:lol This team just woke up, NBA = fucked..

Premature...

[Malik Hairston]

Prime Pau >>> Marc Gasol, tbh..

[testies]

Oh, and why does Rogues cheer for OKC with same intensity of Heat?

[MI21]

Westbrook is such a cuntt, tbh

[KaiRMD1]

Perhaps we finally won't get a friggin' overtime game