Oklahoma City Thunder (#2) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (#7) II Playoff Series Thread

[313]

Now that Memphis isn't down 20 they can play their brand of basketball. Grit. And. Grind.

[elmanutres]

:lol oklahoma shitty keeping it close

[BatManu20]

Tony Allen deserves a ton of credit for this comeback tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Why does Lakerfan always desperately defend the officiating whenever RefKC plays? :lol

[ElNono]

this game is over though, IMO. Hard to overcome that 1st half...

[313]

They gotta get Miller going in the 4th

[Darius Bieber]

You honestly think the Spurs have no shot with HCA?

HCA doesn't mean anything with RefKC. They'll get calls home or away.

[testies]

Tony Allen deserves a ton of credit for this comeback tbh

best defender in the league comfortably

[ElNono]

Grizzlies shot 3 more freebies than OKC right now... they missed half of them... that's not the refs...

[01Snake]

Goal on the left is obviously jinxed. haha

[BatManu20]

Yea OKC will still win this game, but psychologically at least it bodes well for Memphis

[Axegrinder]

Why does Lakerfan always desperately defend the officiating whenever RefKC plays? :lolPenis envy

[TampaDude]

Only a 4-point game going into the 4th. This one ain't over by a long shot.

[HI-FI]

:lmao 50% of the posts in this thread consist of Spurs fans complaining about the referees
so who you rooting for now, 1)Heat 2)Thunder 3)Lakers powerball?

[Trainwreck2100]

it's not the refs... Memphis had plenty of calls in the 1st half and missed the freebies... that's on them...

That tide turned real quick when it got close

[Splits]

1 3pt, 11 missed FT, and 36% shooting. How the fuck is this a 4pt game?

[Malik Hairston]

Damn, I stopped watching, how did Memphis cut the deficit?..

[TDfan2007]

Well shit...it's a game now! Thank you Chuckbrook!

[HI-FI]

1 3pt, 11 missed FT, and 36% shooting. How the fuck is this a 4pt game?

Thunder don't have much inside game, just act like rabid monkeys in heat.

[ElNono]

Damn, I stopped watching, how did Memphis cut the deficit?..

solid D and scoring inside

[spursparker9]

Thunderef again

[Chinook]

Damn, I stopped watching, how did Memphis cut the deficit?..

Memphis' wings got going, and OKC went into Westbrook mode.

[testies]

is this ref blind?

[ElNono]

:lol

[Darius Bieber]

LOL Clearly off of Adams. :lol

[elmanutres]

i wonder how dallas would be faring right now if they were facing okc

[Splits]

Refs taking over the 4th

[ElNono]

damn Collison is worn out...

[RD2191]

Is Nick ever not bleeding? Fuck.

[~O~]

If you don't think its the officiating, I have to ask this question? Are you an idiot?

Moving on, I use to root for the Thunder till I realized that the NBA wants them to win.

[Axegrinder]

Is Nick ever not bleeding? Fuck.his uni should be made by tampax

[Darius Bieber]

Wtf did Zbo do?

[elmanutres]

oh crap

[Robz4000]

God damn refs

[313]

LMAOOO REFS

[Venti Quattro]

so who you rooting for now, 1)Heat 2)Thunder 3)Lakers powerball?

Any team but the Clippers and the Spurs. I have no allegiances and I have to admit that as much as missing the playoffs sucks, it's good to watch the playoffs without your favored team in it

[spurraider21]

Reactionary posting on this forum is real :lol

[BatManu20]

Lol touch foul

[davethedope]

game is too close for the nba so get zbo out can't have durant lose game 1

[HI-FI]

refs taking over.

cue Lakerfan getting upset over said complaining.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

WTF these thunderreds are unreal

[testies]

IM OFFICIALLY KILLING THESE REFS

[Spurs 4 The Win]

OMG THATS A CHARGE

[BatManu20]

Even Hubie Brown is questioning is this trash officiating

[testies]

AND PUNCHING THE LAKER FAN IN THE FACE

[Robz4000]

Det charge no-call...

[IrisHockey]

:lmao so much SF nervousness in this thread..

[ElNono]

lil homecooking... happens on every game, tbh

[Clipper Nation]

The NBA should be ashamed of the officiating so far in these playoffs and especially this game... it's a freaking joke and reflects poorly on the league....

[Spurs 4 The Win]

This is why it is an absolute must for the Thunder to get an injury or go out early... Because this shit reffing can take over any game, period

[playbonner15]

:lol refs

[elmanutres]

what a beautiful aerial view of the that tower surrounded by the meth slums.

[ElNono]

OKC surprisingly cold from outside in this game...

[UZER]

Reactionary posting on this forum is real :lol

I've said it before, game threads need to ha e disclaimers that over the top reactions are a given in the heat of the moment and should be understood to be in that context.

[testies]

the durant 3 fts = LOL
the Z-bo bouncing ball off Adams' foot, thunder ball = LOL
z-bo 2 touch fouls, reaching five = LOL
THE IBAKA CHARGE NOT CALLED = LOL

and all this was in like 5 mintes

[ElNono]

Miller time

[Budkin]

That's why we call them the Thunderrefs. Are you surprised?

[313]

They gotta get Miller going in the 4th
:tu

[Venti Quattro]

The NBA should be ashamed of the officiating so far in these playoffs and especially this game... it's a freaking joke and reflects poorly on the league....

Every year we complain of bad officiating in one game or two and yet the league is still decided by the team who wants the championship the most. It's the same script

[Spurs9]

wtf I turned off the game earlier, and now it's a 4 point game wtf :lmao

[RD2191]

Fml

[TheCultOfPersonality]

The Courtney Lee foul on Ibaka and the Conley foul on Jackson. 2 really stupid fouls.

[RD2191]

Refs too much for Memphis tonight.

[spursparker9]

:lol
fisher drawing a foul.

[313]

Jesus Christ refs in full force

[~O~]

Oh....My......God.http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/16077/2147093-un_mother_of_god_meme_rage_face.jpg

[ElNono]

Conley limping?

[spursparker9]

Guess no team has ever win against 8 players.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Cant go down 20 to the refs and expect to win the game, the refs can steal possesions and award points when necesarry

[BatManu20]

If I had a gun with 2 bullets, and I was trapped in a room with Hitler, Putin, and Derek Fisher, I would shoot Fisher twice.

[spursparker9]

lol. Did the espn guy just said Fisher a great defender?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Fisher the fagget misses a layup= foul

[Robz4000]

If I had a gun with 2 bullets, and I was trapped in a room with Hitler, Putin, and Derek Fisher, I would shoot Fisher twice.

:lol

[313]

FTs really hurt Memphis tonight

[davethedope]

not to mention all the calling fucks up the rhythm and flow of the game's momentum

[Splits]

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[spursparker9]

If I had a gun with 2 bullets, and I was trapped in a room with Hitler, Putin, and Derek Fisher, I would shoot Fisher twice.


:lol:lol:lol

[Robz4000]

Game

[Spurs 4 The Win]

This is the typical script vs okc... refs give them tons of chances and eventually they take advantage

[ElNono]

lol beno

[RD2191]

Gasol needs to come to SA, tbh.

[Grit and Grind]

These refs man

[Darius Bieber]

Conley injured, refs in full force... Typical Methlahoma game.

[ElNono]

If Conley is out, this series is a sweep

[Spurs 4 The Win]

These refs man

Sorry man, sucks to watch happen

[Venti Quattro]

These refs man

Sup Grit and Grind

[Grit and Grind]

These refs are terrible like wtf

[~O~]

If you're a Memphis fan, win or lose, your team was the better team. Any team that can play through the Thunder the referees, and the NBA is a great team to me.

[Robz4000]

:lmao refs

[Kyl3]

Shit isn't even fun to watch when it's like this.

[Clipper Nation]

Refs > Memphis > Meth

[Grit and Grind]

Sup Grit and Grind (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42975)
What up my mane

[Baam]

At this point we gotta pray for Curry to go full God mode in the next round or something, cause let's be real we don't want to see this team in the WCF...

[BatManu20]

Conley's back. I'd prob sit him the rest of the game tbh

[RD2191]

Can the refs win the MVP?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

The ref treatment is so bad that when the OKC players dont get treated like the second coming of Jordan, the fans scream that the refs hate them and never give them calls

[Robz4000]

Conley :tu

[apalisoc_9]

refs doing work

[spurraider21]

Like I said earlier, zbo and fat Gasol had uncharacteristically poor first halves... Officiating complaints aside Memphis would have been just fine. They just ran out of had during that furious comeback. Fisher is drawing fouls and playmaking for Durant at this point :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I hate OKC with such a fiery passion that words cant describe it, they get everything handed to them

[ElNono]

enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens...

[Capt Bringdown]

Fuckin' hell, Durant looks like he's 14 feet tall. One step and he's past you for an open shot...and he doesn't miss.

[spurs10]

Has there been a Thunderef possession where they haven't gone to the line?

[testies]

I don't give a shit if they call me crybaby, ref gave OKC the game.. ticky tacky fouls called on ZBo and next play Ibaka with most blatant charge in history and no call

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Has there been a Thunderef possession where they haven't gone to the line?

No

[RD2191]

Just because the free throw differential might not be all that big it doesn't mean the refs aren't helping OKC. It's the momentum killing calls and no calls that are really fucking over Memphis.

[ElNono]

Like I said earlier, zbo and fat Gasol had uncharacteristically poor first halves... Officiating complaints aside Memphis would have been just fine. They just ran out of had during that furious comeback. Fisher is drawing fouls and playmaking for Durant at this point :lol

yep... they still don't have enough to survive the series, I don't think, but they can win a game or two... if Conley is injured though, this will be a sweep, IMO. Beno don't even know the plays.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

wtf at these calls...

that being said i'm hoping OKC plays this shitty against us

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Just because the free throw differential might not be all that big it doesn't mean the refs aren't helping OKC. It's the momentum killing calls and no calls that are really fucking over Memphis.

EXACTLY

[Trainwreck2100]

These refs are terrible like wtf

Grit my condolences on drawing the most refreliant team in the league.

[HI-FI]

Any team but the Clippers and the Spurs. I have no allegiances and I have to admit that as much as missing the playoffs sucks, it's good to watch the playoffs without your favored team in it
it's definitely stressful with Spurs. There's a sense of desperation with the fans, but Dallas was desperate as shit in 2011 and it paid off.

I'm a Durant fan but don't want to see Thunder win. Maybe some other year I won't give a shit, but they get away with so much bs, I can't support that.

As for Heat, I was happy Lebron got his ring in 2012, but overall I don't care for them.

[~O~]

The NBA has mastered the control of games.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

it's definitely stressful with Spurs. There's a sense of desperation with the fans, but Dallas was desperate as shit in 2011 and it paid off.

I'm a Durant fan but don't want to see Thunder win. Maybe some other year I won't give a shit, but they get away with so much bs, I can't support that.

As for Heat, I was happy Lebron got his ring in 2012, but overall I don't care for them.

I was for a while but his flopping shit is so gay I cant even root for him and I have his autograph and bunch of other shit he signed from when he was at UT but he has changed into a bitch since he got into the league

[Nathan89]

enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens...

Stupid comment tbh. If the refs were bad then that is in part a reason why Memphis lost. You can't blame a loss on one thing.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Stupid comment tbh. If the refs were bad then that is in part a reason why Memphis lost. You can't blame a loss on one thing.

Exactly, people give the refs a pass every game because they dont want to believe the game was rigged

[313]

If I had a gun with 2 bullets, and I was trapped in a room with Hitler, Putin, and Derek Fisher, I would shoot Fisher twice.
:lol

[313]

The NBA has mastered the control of games.

[spurraider21]

enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens...

[HI-FI]

I was for a while but his flopping shit is so gay I cant even root for him and I have his autograph and bunch of other shit he signed from when he was at UT but he has changed into a bitch since he got into the league
playing with Chimpbrook will do that, plus being coddled by the league.

[ElNono]

Stupid comment tbh. If the refs were bad then that is in part a reason why Memphis lost. You can't blame a loss on one thing.

Nothing stupid about it. There's going to be calls here and there, some home cooking, but when you shoot yourself in the foot by missing half your freebies (and thats almost 20 freebies), and you get in a 20 pt hole on the road, then it's on you.

[IrisHockey]

If I had a gun with 2 bullets, and I was trapped in a room with Hitler, Putin, and Derek Fisher, I would shoot Fisher twice.

I would strongly advise you to shoot that gun, aimed at your temple, tbh..

[spurraider21]

BatManu20 I love the office too :lol

[TheCultOfPersonality]

enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens...
Pretty much.

Too many missed open jumpshots and a boatload of missed free throws are the difference. The Grizzlies free throw shooting has been terrible the last couple months and it has continued into this game. The only reliable free throw shooter on the Grizzlies (Courtney Lee) doesn't really draw any fouls.

[Grit and Grind]

Grit my condolences on drawing the most refreliant team in the league.
My head hurts from this game , if we play like we did in the 2nd half than no we lose Game 2

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Nothing stupid about it. There's going to be calls here and there, some home cooking, but when you shoot yourself in the foot by missing half your freebies (and thats almost 20 freebies), and you get in a 20 pt hole on the road, then it's on you.

:lol you can't be serious..

[Grit and Grind]

Pretty much.

Too many missed open jumpshots and a boatload of missed free throws are the difference. The Grizzlies free throw shooting has been terrible the last couple months and it has continued into this game. The only reliable free throw shooter on the Grizzlies (Courtney Lee) doesn't really draw any fouls.
Conley lately from the line :bang

[Budkin]

The NBA should be embarrassed with this shit.

[Clipper Nation]

Nothing stupid about it. There's going to be calls here and there, some home cooking, but when you shoot yourself in the foot by missing half your freebies (and thats almost 20 freebies), and you get in a 20 pt hole on the road, then it's on you.

There's a big difference between "calls here and there, some home cooking" and what RefKC gets wherever they play :lol

Memphis being down big early still does not entitle the refs to fuck them over later on when the game is close....

[Splits]

36.0%
18.2%
58.6%

[ElNono]

:lol you can't be serious..

What's so complicated about shooting 30% from the floor, missing double-digit freebies, and laying an egg? The refs didn't make them do that, and OKC's defense isn't that good.

That's why they lost the game. Don't take my word for it, just listen to the Memphis fan here.

[TampaDude]

I would strongly advise you to shoot that gun, aimed at your temple, tbh..

Only if he shot your mom in the head first.

[Nathan89]

Nothing stupid about it. There's going to be calls here and there, some home cooking, but when you shoot yourself in the foot by missing half your freebies (and thats almost 20 freebies), and you get in a 20 pt hole on the road, then it's on you.

If the refs favor one team then that is one of many reasons for the loss. For some reason you think there can only be one reason. That perspective is nonsense though.

[Baam]

Exactly, people give the refs a pass every game because they dont want to believe the game was rigged

Rigged = Lakers vs Kings in the early 00s... That OKc game is not even close tbh...

[Venti Quattro]

it's definitely stressful with Spurs. There's a sense of desperation with the fans, but Dallas was desperate as shit in 2011 and it paid off.

Tbf Dallas looked pedestrian in the first round. They weren't going anywhere if Pau didn't cry like a bitch over his girlfriend. Alas, he did, and the Lakers bid for a three peat got unceremoniously swept by the Mavs. The confidence they got there snowballed and by the time they got to the Finals they were world-beaters that Miami couldn't beat even with their newly-assembled Super friends.

As for the Spurs you could see an entire fan base desperate to erase the memories of last year's horrible Finals gaffe... it's the same thing that the Lakers fans felt in 2009 after being favored by ESPN experts to beat the Celtics in 2008 and ending up losing by 39 in Game 6. I understand where the desperation comes from but I just don't like the Spurs.

[Capt Bringdown]

What's more painful, watching Derek Fisher or Ray Allen win another ring?

Spurs would have to play out-of-their-minds, perfect basketball for every possession, and they might have the slimmest miracle shot at beating OKC. This looks like their year.

[ElNono]

There's a big difference between "calls here and there, some home cooking" and what RefKC gets wherever they play :lol

Memphis being down big early still does not entitle the refs to fuck them over later on when the game is close....

In this game, the reason Memphis is losing has way, way more with their 1st half than any refs calls... Bad calls and all, they would be up 10+ right now if they played the 1st half anywhere near their capabilities.

[Clipper Nation]

What's so complicated about shooting 30% from the floor, missing double-digit freebies, and laying an egg?

And yet they managed to get past that and play well enough to make the game close.... still not seeing the justification here for all the bogus calls RefKC has been getting....

[BatManu20]

BatManu20 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33095) I love the office too :lol

:tu

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

What's so complicated about shooting 30% from the floor, missing double-digit freebies, and laying an egg? The refs didn't make them do that, and OKC's defense isn't that good.

That's why they lost the game. Don't take my word for it, just listen to the Memphis fan here.

Randolph getting three fouls in two minutes? Fouls being called every time Memphis gains momentum. OKC went to the line six straight possessions at one point. Sure, the Griz played like shit. But for you to say "the refs didn't contribute to it" is retarded.

[01Snake]

Can Durant ever keep that fucking mouthpiece in his FUCKING mouth??

[Nathan89]

Thought Gasol could hit shots.

[ElNono]

If the refs favor one team then that is one of many reasons for the loss. For some reason you think there can only be one reason. That perspective is nonsense though.

If OKC shoots 100% they win the game too.. ofcourse there's many possible "perspectives"... we're talking about what happened in this game.

[Sybok]

The ref argument is easily defeated when you consider that refs don't make you miss your shots, and they don't make the opponent hit theirs. Everyone wants an alternate reason for losing other than being a weaker team facing a stronger one, on the road.

If you really think the NBA is rigged, you should not watch it. I wouldn't watch something I felt was a rigged show to maximize profits. I don't watch professional wrestling, for example... or any of the TruTV shows.

But LOL Spur fan wanting OKC to lose out of pure fear.

[testies]

pathetic that Grizzlies didn't at least scream at the face of one of those refs

a technical foul doesnt mean shit right now

[testies]

The ref argument is easily defeated when you consider that refs don't make you miss your shots, and they don't make the opponent hit theirs. Everyone wants an alternate reason for losing other than being a weaker team facing a stronger one, on the road.

If you really think the NBA is rigged, you should not watch it. I wouldn't watch something I felt was a rigged show to maximize profits. I don't watch professional wrestling, for example... or any of the TruTV shows.

are you serious? grizzlies offense without z-bo is like water compared to wine, that changes games and 60 games of work in aseason

[ElNono]

And yet they managed to get past that and play well enough to make the game close.... still not seeing the justification here for all the bogus calls RefKC has been getting....

I'm not justifying any calls, I'm pointing out the main reason Memphis couldn't win this game. Anybody that watched any amount of basketball knows that playing catchup on the road is hard.

[~O~]

The thing about the Grizzlies shooting 31 percent is that they are shooting 31 percent off the fucking no calls they're getting. Those guys are getting hammered out there. The field goal doesn't count as an attempt if you shoot and miss while getting a foul call. This game is a testament to the NBA's agenda.

[ElNono]

Randolph getting three fouls in two minutes? Fouls being called every time Memphis gains momentum. OKC went to the line six straight possessions at one point. Sure, the Griz played like shit. But for you to say "the refs didn't contribute to it" is retarded.

The entire OKC frontline was in foul trouble the 1st half. Did you complain then? Memphis didn't take advantage, that's on them.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The entire OKC frontline was in foul trouble the 1st half. Did you complain then? Memphis didn't take advantage, that's on them.

You should stick to keeping Manu's stat line.

[Venti Quattro]

The thing about the Grizzlies shooting 31 percent is that they are shooting 31 percent off the fucking no calls they're getting. Those guys are getting hammered out there. The field goal doesn't count as an attempt if you shoot and miss while getting a foul call. This game is a testament to the NBA's agenda.

:cry It's the refs' fault that they shot 31%
:cry It's the refs' fault that Tony Allen kept on chucking jumpers when he shouldn't even attempt anything beyond 3 ft
:cry It's the refs' fault that Memphis missed their freethrows

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[Sybok]

are you serious? grizzlies offense without z-bo is like water compared to wine, that changes games and 60 games of work in aseason

Only Marc Gasol and KD have played more minutes... so I have no fucking idea what you're talking about and I'm sure you don't either.

[Nathan89]

If OKC shoots 100% they win the game too.. ofcourse there's many possible "perspectives"... we're talking about what happened in this game.

I'm talking about your perspective of there being only one reason for a loss.

[Clipper Nation]

You should stick to keeping Manu's stat line.
You're one to talk about being a Manutard :lol

[Sybok]

I'm talking about your perspective of there being only one reason for a loss.

You don't need more than one. If they shot poorly, they lost because of it. If they didn't defend well, they lost because of it. If they missed their FTs, they lost because of it. Pick one.

[Nathan89]

ElNono with some Hibbert quality posts in this thread imho

[RD2191]

Memphis allowed 13 in the 3rd and 31 in the 4th. No, refs had nothing to do with that. :lol

[spurraider21]

It's not like memphis played well and got jobbed by the refs. They played like ass for majority of the game. The 3 pointer to close the first half was their only point outside the paint. That's not on the refs

[ElNono]

You should stick to keeping Manu's stat line.

:lol you can't make this about me... Answer the question: did you complain about the entire OKC frontline being in foul trouble in the 1st half?

[Nathan89]

You don't need more than one.

Sure but that doesn't mean there isn't more than one. In this case it could be unfair reffing and poor shooting. It's stupid to act like unfair reffing isn't a reason just because you shot poorly.

[Sybok]

:lol you can't make this about me... Answer the question: did you complain about the entire OKC frontline being in foul trouble in the 1st half?
No, he's afraid of the Thunder and for good reason. He knows his destiny lies with them.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol you can't make this about me... Answer the question: did you complain about the entire OKC frontline being in foul trouble in the 1st half?

:lol Memphis shot terrible, but you are delusional to say the refs didn't greatly effect the outcome of this game. The Griz were down by two points in the fourth.

[ElNono]

I'm talking about your perspective of there being only one reason for a loss.

I didn't say it's the only reason, I said it's the main reason.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No, he's afraid of the Thunder and for good reason. He knows his destiny lies with them.

Nope.

[Sybok]

Sure but that doesn't mean there isn't more than one. In this case it could be unfair reffing and poor shooting. It's stupid to act like unfair reffing isn't a reason just because you shot poorly.

No it's not. You saying it doesn't make it so.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u cant do shit when refs are stopping you from making a run

its fkn scripted man...dont bother watchin okc games, its like watchin meth heads smoking a joint

[ElNono]

:lol Memphis shot terrible, but you are delusional to say the refs didn't greatly effect the outcome of this game. The Griz were down by two points in the fourth.

So you didn't complain in the 1st half when the OKC frontline was in foul trouble, Memphis had a +10 free throw differential, made only half of the freebies and only shot 30%? :lol

[RD2191]

ElNono with some Hibbert quality posts in this thread imho

:lmao

[Sybok]

Nope.

Bullshit. You have two teams that have nothing to do with SA. One is the 2nd seed and they are beating the 7th seed in the opening game of the playoffs. You're acting like Durant has 40FTs and everyone on the Memphis roster is in foul trouble.

[Capt Bringdown]

Zebra wear:
http://media.timesfreepress.com/images/ChattaDealz/2011/FrontRunner/FrontRunner_main.jpg

[ElNono]

ElNono with some Hibbert quality posts in this thread imho

:lol another attempt to make this about me... if you have an argument spell it out... should stand on it's own, right?

[Venti Quattro]

So you didn't complain in the 1st half when the OKC frontline was in foul trouble, Memphis had a +10 free throw differential, made only half of the freebies and only shot 30%? :lol

Here's your Hibbert-quality post, ElNono

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0518/nba_a_hibbert1.jpg

[Sybok]

:lmao
You're the consummate sycophant, rushing in with the obligatory cock suck.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Bullshit. You have two teams that have nothing to do with SA. One is the 2nd seed and they are beating the 7th seed in the opening game of the playoffs. You're acting like Durant has 40FTs and everyone on the Memphis roster is in foul trouble.

:lol averaging 10 free throws per game and 9 per game for his career

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Here's your Hibbert-quality post, ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0518/nba_a_hibbert1.jpg

:tu

[ElNono]

I've bitched about OKC's cozy ref treatment a bunch of times... in this particular game, it's pretty simple to identify what Memphis' problem was.

[HI-FI]

I've bitched about OKC's cozy ref treatment a bunch of times... in this particular game, it's pretty simple to identify what Memphis' problem was.
so seeing today's game, with refs tossing OKC's salad per the par, you still feel Grizzlies win in 6?

[Nathan89]

:lol another attempt to make this about me... if you have an argument spell it out... should stand on it's own, right?

I already did that but I also took a shot at you. Once again you think it's one thing or the other, when it's really both.

[sook]

Memphis looked like shit. The officiating wouldn't have changed a thing today.

[Sybok]

:lol averaging 10 free throws per game and 9 per game for his career

How many did he have tonight? Do you think a 7'er like him who can drive the paint and knock down the 3 at will doesn't get fouled all the time? It's not the problem that he gets fouled, so does Howard. It's the he hits his FTs. Dirk was getting a shit load of FTs during his heyday.

[LkrFan]

Only Marc Gasol and KD have played more minutes... so I have no fucking idea what you're talking about and I'm sure you don't either.
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Memphis looked like shit. The officiating wouldn't have changed a thing today.

They pulled their heads out of their asses and made it close after their shit start - take away the BS officiating and they may have completed the comeback.... instead, they weren't even given a fair chance....

[LkrFan]

You're the consummate sycophant, rushing in with the obligatory cock suck.
:lmao

[RD2191]

You're the consummate sycophant, rushing in with the obligatory cock suck.

Just because I thought his post was hilarious I'm a cocksucker? Slow your roll bitch, you don't wanna come at me sideways. I'll fuck your world up.

[Venti Quattro]

I've bitched about OKC's cozy ref treatment a bunch of times... in this particular game, it's pretty simple to identify what Memphis' problem was.

Durant didn't even get 10 freebies and the meltdown in this thread is unprecedented. He was 4-6. If you shoot 18-31 from the line and allow yourself to be down 20 then you don't deserve to win, period.

Oklahoma City was 28-32 from the line, btw. There's your ball game.

[Nathan89]

Memphis looked like shit. The officiating wouldn't have changed a thing today.

So your take is that the officiating was fair tonight. Otherwise if it was changed it would change something.

[ElNono]

I already did that but I also took a shot at you. Once again you think it's one thing or the other, when it's really both.

Link where I said "it's one thing or another"? I said it's the main reason...

[~O~]

What I'm getting from some of you people trying to justify calls is this: Say your girlfriend was having dinner with a guy whom you know nothing about and you happen to suddenly walk onto the situation and hide to see whats going on. You see her begin touching him on the leg. Justification: she's giving him a massage. She being feeding him fruits: Justification: He probably can't feed himself. She situation escalates and they embrace in a french kiss. Justification: Oh...that's probably what she doesn't with her cousins from where she's from.


^^^^^^That is how you sound to me. Like delusional moron boyfriends of the NBA who can't justify what is completely REAL in front of them. You're the reason why people go on living paranoid lives of kicking babies in the balls.

Its basic psychology that if you change the rules for a team in this league, you completely destroy the offensive strategy and their confidence in their offense. Not only that, you give the opponent the benefit of regular rules and much more and you've got the formula for setting up your own match ups.


Seriously, I understand that a team can shoot themselves out of the game however i watched the entire game. The Memphis Grizzlies would have had the Thunder completely rattled had they got their due. They were destroying all momentum the Thunder had and the officials did their absolute best to keep them away from tying.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Just because I thought his post was hilarious I'm a cocksucker? Slow your roll bitch, you don't wanna come at me sideways. I'll fuck your world up.

:lol you really need to stop with the internet tough guy shit

[ElNono]

so seeing today's game, with refs tossing OKC's salad per the par, you still feel Grizzlies win in 6?

I called OKC to win this series because they don't have enough firepower... I still feel the same way. I do think Memphis can rough em up a bit though... maybe steal a game or two... if Conley is hurt, then it's over, IMO.

[Drachen]

I didn't see the game but the butthurt is strong in here on both sides of the coin.

[Sybok]

Just because I thought his post was hilarious I'm a cocksucker
So we agree

[Venti Quattro]

So your take is that the officiating was fair tonight. Otherwise if it was changed it would change something.

YES it was fair. How convenient of you to ignore the calls against Oklahoma City just because they're a heated conference rival

Fouls: MEM 24, OKC 25 (:rollin)
FTA: MEM 18-31, OKC 28-32

:cry :cry BUT THE REFS FAVORED OKLAHOMA CITY FUCK YOU REFS YOU CHEATERS :cry :cry

:lmao

[Nathan89]

By the way I didn't make any definitive statement about the officiating. I just think it's stupid to sweep poor officiating(if that is the case) under the rug just because the team did do everything else perfectly. How well does a team have to play before one can complain about officiating? Someone please answer. I don't know, so I will complain when I think the officiating isn't good. How well the team plays has no barring on that. And if the officiating is bad it's a reason for the loss.

[Sybok]

What I'm getting from some of you people trying to justify calls is this: Say your girlfriend was having dinner with a guy whom you know nothing about and you happen to suddenly walk onto the situation and hide to see whats going on. You see her begin touching him on the leg. Justification: she's giving him a massage. She being feeding him fruits: Justification: He probably can't feed himself. She situation escalates and they embrace in a french kiss. Justification: Oh...that's probably what she doesn't with her cousins from where she's from.


^^^^^^That is how you sound to me. Like delusional moron boyfriends of the NBA who can't justify what is completely REAL in front of them. You're the reason why people go on living paranoid lives of kicking babies in the balls.

Its basic psychology that if you change the rules on a team in this league, you completely destroy the offensive strategy and their confidence in their offense. Not only that, you give the opponent the benefit of regular rules and much more and you've got the formula for setting up your own match ups.


Seriously, I understand that a team can shoot themselves out of the game however i watched the entire game. The Memphis Grizzlies would have had the Thunder completely rattled had they got their due. They were destroying all momentum the Thunder had and the officials did their absolute best to keep them away from tying.

Shut your whore mouth, you have no business here.

[ElNono]

Durant didn't even get 10 freebies and the meltdown in this thread is unprecedented. He was 4-6. If you shoot 18-31 from the line and allow yourself to be down 20 then you don't deserve to win, period.

Oklahoma City was 28-32 from the line, btw. There's your ball game.

How dare you! There's more than one reason! :dramaquee

:lol

[rogues]

:lmao:lmao Spur fan in this thread

[Nathan89]

YES it was fair. How convenient of you to ignore the calls against Oklahoma City just because they're a heated conference rival

Fouls: MEM 24, OKC 25 (:rollin)
FTA: MEM 18-31, OKC 28-32

:cry :cry BUT THE REFS FAVORED OKLAHOMA CITY FUCK YOU REFS YOU CHEATERS :cry :cry

:lmao

I'm not really saying it wasn't fair. I'm saying if it wasn't then it is a reason for the loss.

[Sybok]

They pulled their heads out of their asses and made it close after their shit start - take away the BS officiating and they may have completed the comeback.... instead, they weren't even given a fair chance....

How were they allowed to make it competitive, did the refs take a break? Did the same thing happen to the Clippers... at home?

[RD2191]

:lol you really need to stop with the internet tough guy shit

Internet?

[~O~]

Shut your whore mouth, you have no business here.


:nope

[Sybok]

I'm not really saying it wasn't fair. I'm saying if it wasn't then it is a reason for the loss.

You're not really saying anything. You want to be right and if you're not, you want to pose a hypothetical where, in an alternate universe, you might be.

[RD2191]

How them Lakers doing by the way?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Internet?

ya

[Venti Quattro]

How them Lakers doing by the way?

Fine and out of of the playoffs, thank you.

[sook]

So your take is that the officiating was fair tonight. Otherwise if it was changed it would change something.

What? Did you not read my response? I said it wouldn't have changed a thing, implying that that I felt the officiating somewhat favored OKC, but the grizzlies played shitty enough for it not to have affected the outcome.

[ElNono]

What I'm getting from some of you people trying to justify calls is this: Say your girlfriend was having dinner with a guy whom you know nothing about and you happen to suddenly walk onto the situation and hide to see whats going on. You see her begin touching him on the leg. Justification: she's giving him a massage. She being feeding him fruits: Justification: He probably can't feed himself. She situation escalates and they embrace in a french kiss. Justification: Oh...that's probably what she doesn't with her cousins from where she's from.


^^^^^^That is how you sound to me. Like delusional moron boyfriends of the NBA who can't justify what is completely REAL in front of them. You're the reason why people go on living paranoid lives of kicking babies in the balls.

Its basic psychology that if you change the rules for a team in this league, you completely destroy the offensive strategy and their confidence in their offense. Not only that, you give the opponent the benefit of regular rules and much more and you've got the formula for setting up your own match ups.


Seriously, I understand that a team can shoot themselves out of the game however i watched the entire game. The Memphis Grizzlies would have had the Thunder completely rattled had they got their due. They were destroying all momentum the Thunder had and the officials did their absolute best to keep them away from tying.

Nah, what I'm saying is that your girlfriend spent all last weekend with Leroy... the fact that now she wants to give you a blowjob to make up shouldn't hide the fact that you're a cuck. Memphis largely did this to themselves in the first half. We can debate whether the refs calls swung the score 5-10 points either way, but when you gave up 20 in a half and it's entirely on you, then it's on you...

[Sybok]

Total Free Throws Attempted Leaders - All Players



PER GAME
TOTAL



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/year/2006)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/year/2006)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/year/2006)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/year/2006)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/year/2006)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/year/2006/order/false)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/year/2006)


1
Allen Iverson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/366/allen-iverson), SG
PHI
72
33.0
9.4
11.5
675
829
.814


2
Kobe Bryant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/110/kobe-bryant), SG
LAL
80
35.4
8.7
10.2
696
819
.850


3
LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
CLE
79
31.4
7.6
10.3
601
814
.738


4
Paul Pierce (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/662/paul-pierce), SF
BOS
79
26.8
7.9
10.3
627
812
.772


5
Dwyane Wade (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1987/dwyane-wade), SG
MIA
75
27.2
8.4
10.7
629
803
.783


6
Gilbert Arenas (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/974/gilbert-arenas), PG
WSH
80
29.3
8.2
10.0
655
799
.820





Yeah, KD's FTA this year is unheard of... People used to attack the paint and get to the line... a lot. Now days it's all outside Euroshit.

[Thread]

The Grizz have never had enoughPERIOD

[RD2191]

Fine and out of of the playoffs, thank you.

:violin

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Total Free Throws Attempted Leaders - All Players





PER GAME
TOTAL



RK
PLAYER
TEAM
GP (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/gamesPlayed/year/2006)
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgPoints/year/2006)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/year/2006)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted/year/2006)
FTM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsMade/year/2006)
FTA (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowsAttempted/year/2006/order/false)
FT% (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/year/2006)


1
Allen Iverson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/366/allen-iverson), SG
PHI
72
33.0
9.4
11.5
675
829
.814


2
Kobe Bryant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/110/kobe-bryant), SG
LAL
80
35.4
8.7
10.2
696
819
.850


3
LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), SF
CLE
79
31.4
7.6
10.3
601
814
.738


4
Paul Pierce (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/662/paul-pierce), SF
BOS
79
26.8
7.9
10.3
627
812
.772


5
Dwyane Wade (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1987/dwyane-wade), SG
MIA
75
27.2
8.4
10.7
629
803
.783


6
Gilbert Arenas (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/974/gilbert-arenas), PG
WSH
80
29.3
8.2
10.0
655
799
.820





Yeah, KD's FTA this year is unheard of... People used to attack the paint and get to the line... a lot. Now days it's all outside Euroshit.

What you're failing to realize is we are bitching about OKC's free throws, not solely Durant.

[Nathan89]

You're not really saying anything. You want to be right and if you're not, you want to pose a hypothetical where, in an alternate universe, you might be.

Yeah, I'm saying people should talk about the refs if they think they were bad regardless of what memphis did. And regardless of what memphis did it would be a contribution to a loss if they were bad.

[ElNono]

What? Did you not read my response? I said it wouldn't have changed a thing, implying that that I felt the officiating favored OKC, but the grizzlies played shitty enough for it not to have affected the outcome.

exactly... they laid an egg... hopefully they get their shit straight for game 2 and rough em up a bit...

[Sybok]

Yeah, I'm saying people should talk about the refs if they think they were bad regardless of what memphis did. And regardless of what memphis did it would be a contribution to a loss if they were bad.

The refs are like the weather, you have to play through it or go home. You cannot make adjustments and overcome a bias if it exists. If you think there's a bias, stop watching basketball. If it's rigged, there's really no competition.

[HI-FI]

I called OKC to win this series because they don't have enough firepower... I still feel the same way. I do think Memphis can rough em up a bit though... maybe steal a game or two... if Conley is hurt, then it's over, IMO.

darkhorse Grizz in 6
:rolleyes

[ElNono]

Yeah, I'm saying people should talk about the refs if they think they were bad regardless of what memphis did. And regardless of what memphis did it would be a contribution to a loss if they were bad.

They can get their act together, and THEN get fucked by the refs... but you can't put the refs first when they laid such an egg in the first half... They let OKC get a 24pt (IIRC) lead, and it was all on them...

[LkrFan]

They pulled their heads out of their asses and made it close after their shit start - take away the BS officiating and they may have completed the comeback.... instead, they weren't even given a fair chance....:cry

You're posting like a rape victim... The great Bobby Knight once coined this phrase: "If a woman knows she's about to get raped, she should just relax and enjoy it." :downspin:

[Sybok]

What you're failing to realize is we are bitching about OKC's free throws, not solely Durant.

OKC: 28 of 32

Mem: 18 of 31

Yeah that extra FT attempt made the difference in the game. There's the game right there at the line...

[ElNono]

:rolleyes

:lol

This was my series analysis upstairs:


The big advantage for the Grizz is in the paint... They can box out and rebound, they can bully inside, and they can make sure KD, Westbrook or Jackson do not get layups... OKC is going to have to shoot well from outside (which they can do, but the layup/freebie is the preferred route). The key for the Griz is going to be slowing down the pace, keep the turnovers down, and just pound inside. Mike Miller needs to be an x-factor for them.

I still don't think they have enough firepower though...

[Nathan89]

Link where I said "it's one thing or another"? I said it's the main reason...

"enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens..."

This is what you said. So because they played bad in the first half the reffing couldn't be a reason for the loss.

[HI-FI]

:cry

You're posting like a rape victim... The great Bobby Knight once coined this phrase: "If a woman knows she's about to get raped, she should just relax and enjoy it." :downspin"
now I see why Kobe is your favorite player.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

OKC: 28 of 32

Mem: 18 of 31

Yeah that extra FT attempt made the difference in the game.

You need to understand the amount of free throws are irrelevant. Those free throws that the Griz got were when they were down by over 20. The Thunder started getting them when it was a 2 point game. They even had 6 straight possessions going to the line. Not to mention Z-Bo getting 3 fouls in two minutes.

I feel like this problem could be seen if someone actually watched the game.

[Sybok]

OKC in 4. Memphis will not win a game. They've already given up mentally. Their championship came when they beat Dallas for 7th seed.

[Sybok]

You need to understand the amount of free throws are irrelevant. Those free throws that the Griz got were when they were down by over 20. The Thunder started getting them when it was a 2 point game. They even had 6 straight possessions going to the line. Not to mention Z-Bo getting 3 fouls in two minutes.

I feel like this problem could be seen if someone actually watched the game.

So the same amount of FTs are irrelevant? Do you think Memphis' coach thinks missing half their FTs is irrelevant? I did watch the game. You're a tool.

[LkrFan]

now I see why Kobe is your favorite player.
:tu

[sook]

now I see why Kobe is your favorite player.

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:cry

You're posting like a rape victim... The great Bobby Knight once coined this phrase: "If a woman knows she's about to get raped, she should just relax and enjoy it." :downspin:

Speaking of rape phrases, the not-so-great Kirby Bryant coined this one: "I jerked off when she left." :lol

[Sybok]

:cry

You're posting like a rape victim... The great Bobby Knight once coined this phrase: "If a woman knows she's about to get raped, she should just relax and enjoy it." :downspin:

I think that was Clayton Williams.

[ElNono]

"enough with the ref BS... Memphis lost this game in the 1st half with absolutely horrible shooting... it happens..."

This is what you said. So because they played bad in the first half the reffing couldn't be a reason for the loss.

No, it says the main reason they lost is the absolute horrible shooting... posted the same here:


I'm not justifying any calls, I'm pointing out the main reason Memphis couldn't win this game. Anybody that watched any amount of basketball knows that playing catchup on the road is hard.

Feel free to disagree, but then you gotta let me know how shooting 30% and missing 8 freebies on the road against the Thunder isn't a recipe for disaster.

[~O~]

You need to understand the amount of free throws are irrelevant. Those free throws that the Griz got were when they were down by over 20. The Thunder started getting them when it was a 2 point game. They even had 6 straight possessions going to the line. Not to mention Z-Bo getting 3 fouls in two minutes.

I feel like this problem could be seen if someone actually watched the game.

[LkrFan]

I think that was Clayton Williams.
Maybe, but when I heard BK say it I :lol'd my ass off

[LkrFan]

Speaking of rape phrases, the not-so-great Kirby Bryant coined this one: "I jerked off when she left." :lol
:lol

[Robz4000]

Wasn't just the FT attempts tbh. There were numerous no-calls that should've been called. I digress tho, the Grizz lost this game by playing like horseshit in the first half and bricking their FTs left and right.

[HI-FI]

You need to understand the amount of free throws are irrelevant. Those free throws that the Griz got were when they were down by over 20. The Thunder started getting them when it was a 2 point game. They even had 6 straight possessions going to the line. Not to mention Z-Bo getting 3 fouls in two minutes.

I feel like this problem could be seen if someone actually watched the game.
good points. Momentum is everything and that's where refs make their mark.

[TDMVPDPOY]

refs will let you get close withing a margin thats about it, u cant win against them...

[RD2191]

The Grizz are just really offensively challenged. They can make a game of it with a couple of stops and hitting a few buckets but eventually the other team goes on a run that they can't overcome, especially if it is late in the game.

[Venti Quattro]

now I see why Kobe is your favorite player.

It was consensual tbh

[~O~]

Nah, what I'm saying is that your girlfriend spent all last weekend with Leroy... the fact that now she wants to give you a blowjob to make up shouldn't hide the fact that you're a cuck. Memphis largely did this to themselves in the first half. We can debate whether the refs calls swung the score 5-10 points either way, but when you gave up 20 in a half and it's entirely on you, then it's on you...

Just so I don't let you keep you in the dark, you just made a justification to your girlfriend by being a weak-minded dickhead and staying with her..which is disgracefully adds to my point. *Facepalm* Sigh....


You think i already don't know that you can't rig bad shooting? My vision is glaring at the calls that would cause momentum. Just because the fouls are on the stat sheet doesn't mean that player deserved that foul from looking at the game. Fouls missed also doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You have to watch the game.. The Grizzlies should have had far more calls then the Thunder did. I'll give the Grizzlies this, they are patient.

[dirk4mvp]

Best part of the game was Hubie getting off to Allen hitting 2 wide open mid range jumpers after stepping in 6 ft

[Malik Hairston]

:lol complaining about fouls in a game where Memphis got a lot of love from the whistle?..let's save our complaints for the WCFs, tbh..

[ElNono]

Just so I don't let you keep you in the dark, you just made a justification to your girlfriend by being a weak-minded dickhead and staying with her..which is disgracefully adds to my point. *Facepalm* Sigh....

That was exactly my point... the problem there isn't whether you want the blowjob or not, the problem is that you're still with the girl. You're doing it to yourself.


You think i already don't know that you can't rig bad shooting? My vision is glaring at the calls that would cause momentum. Just because the fouls are on the stat sheet doesn't mean that player deserved that foul from looking at the game. Fouls missed also doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You have to watch the game.. The Grizzlies should have had far more calls then the Thunder did. I'll give the Grizzlies this, they are patient.

I watched the whole game. There were some typical awful calls that help OKC. Never said they were not there. But you can overcome those calls if you have a 15pt-20pt lead, which is what Memphis should've had if they actually show up to play in the 1st half.

I'm not justifying the sometimes awful refereeing, I'm just pointing out that today, in this game, they had a much bigger problem: an awful shooting 1st half. It's not even common for them, they were just bad.

[IrisHockey]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/orjzn4.jpg

BD trending in fucking Dallas? :lol

[HI-FI]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/orjzn4.jpg

BD trending in fucking Dallas? :lol

why not, he lives there.

[Malik Hairston]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/orjzn4.jpg

BD trending in fucking Dallas? :lol

:lmao #freeBigDog, tbh..

[RD2191]

:lol

[Axegrinder]

I think there were several bad calls/no calls, but Grizz were not beaten by refs. OKC is just the better team. And the "rigging" thing is a bit over the top imo

[313]

Memphis could have played better in the first half, but they did get back in the game, and that's when the refs stepped in. A couple no calls, a couple fouls on Zbo to get him out of the game, and just like that it was a 14 point game.

No worries though. Memphis should have more confidence coming into game 2 after overcoming such a deficit rather than if they were coming into game 2 after getting 30 balled.

If Allen is healthy I still think it's Griz in 6.

[Kidd K]

Just so I don't let you keep you in the dark, you just made a justification to your girlfriend by being a weak-minded dickhead and staying with her..which is disgracefully adds to my point. *Facepalm* Sigh....


You think i already don't know that you can't rig bad shooting? My vision is glaring at the calls that would cause momentum. Just because the fouls are on the stat sheet doesn't mean that player deserved that foul from looking at the game. Fouls missed also doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You have to watch the game.. The Grizzlies should have had far more calls then the Thunder did. I'll give the Grizzlies this, they are patient.

They can rig "bad shooting" when refs allow 10 goaltends in two games plus allow shooting fouls to go uncalled.

Just like they can rig "good scoring" by awarding unearned FTAs.

[Thread]

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.

[ElNono]

"We've got to make adjustments to get off to a better start," Randolph said. "We can't exert so much energy trying to come back from 20 points. It's the first game, we've got to stick together. We've been here before, we know what we've got to do and come out and be ready for Monday."

Memphis shot just 36 percent from the field and made just 18 of 31 free throws.

"We got good looks. I can't say it was anything other than that," Conley said. "We got good looks. We got some open 3s. Our bigs got some good looks in the post. We just didn't knock them down. We have to be more focused at the line as well. Making free throws is a big deal for us. We got opportunities. We've got to make them."

"We see what we did," Randolph said. "I think we cut it down to two, and they made another run, but we see what we can do. We know what we can do and we've got to come like that at the beginning of the game."

[hater]

Prediction. Memphis is getting THE FUCK blown out in game 2. Too many minutes played. They re getting raped in game 2.