San Antonio Spurs (#1) vs. Dallas Mavericks (#8) Playoff Series Thread

[Clipper Nation]

so-so


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDeak5Rkgo

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDeak5Rkgo

:lol if you want to do this we can do this

[ElNono]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDeak5Rkgo

:lol Enrique watching from the bench

[POPownsJackson]

Or about how long Kobe's return lasted
or about as long as you and girls last until they see all your cats

[ElNono]

My client was horrible last playoffs, tbh... can't believe we managed to rob the FO blind on the extension...

He's been great this series tho

[ElNono]

I should try to add Choke Paul to my list of clients, tbh... :downspin:

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

or about as long as you and girls last until they see all your cats

:lol at least I don't have to jerk off in the shower

[Clipper Nation]

I should try to add Choke Paul to my list of clients, tbh... :downspin:

:lol With his Game 6 Manu-esque free throw shooting in the clutch, are you sure you haven't added him already?

[Reck]

or about as long as you and girls last until they see all your cats

Tu ingles esta mejorando guey.

[POPownsJackson]

Tu ingles esta mejorando guey.
I find nice american woman teach me

[baseline bum]

You niggas rather have Gordan or Durant in your framily?

[baseline bum]

Calderon continually shitting on Parker

[mavsfan1000]

Haha Splitter looks like Ashton Koucher.

[ElNono]

dannnnnnyyyyyyyyyy

[mavsfan1000]

Fuck this game. Mavs back to being _allas

[spurraider21]

V3RD3

[Robz4000]

Two of Leonard, Manu, or Green needs to play the rest of the way.

[FkLA]

Green needs to play more tbh.

[spurraider21]

:lol waiting for the shot to miss and the rebound to be secured to call a shooting foul

[Spur-Addict]

Nice block Dannnny

[spurraider21]

Two of Leonard, Manu, or Green needs to play the rest of the way.
inb4 belli, cojo, daye check in

[jeebus]

#freebelinelli

[HemisfairArena]

The Big German is done,,,,Cuban did this guy dirty style after they won the title.

[FkLA]

Play this fucking long-dick nigga more. Give him all of Belli's minutes.

[ElNono]

#playdaye

[ElNono]

those fluky shots are brutal

[Robz4000]

VC and Wright keeping Dallas in it...

[jeebus]

those fluky shots are brutal
they ain't gonna fall for _allas in the next round imo

[ElNono]

Brandan Wright and Fluke Carter doing work... we can't catch a break this series...

[FkLA]

Carter is a faggot :cry

[ElNono]

nice flop, gino

[Spur-Addict]

Turrrrno

[Clipper Nation]

nice flop, gino

I assume he has a flopping bonus in his contract - extra $$$$ by the flop? :lol

[ElNono]

wow nice pass

[ElNono]

I assume he has a flopping bonus in his contract - extra $$$$ by the flop? :lol

:hat

[Reck]

Timmay

[jeebus]

I assume he has a flopping bonus in his contract - extra $$$$ by the flop? :lol
reverse bounty imo. get paid more for hurting yourself

[spurraider21]

wow did u guys hear pop during the break? what a terrible coach!

[Robz4000]

Close this quarter out on a good note

[ElNono]

lol Dirk mad

[Robz4000]

Fuck Carter

[Spur-Addict]

Dannnnny nice block

[POPownsJackson]

Dirk please unleash allah next quarter

[Killakobe81]

lol Dirk mad
Frustrated with Manu, refs and mostly himself. 2011 Dirk shits on Splitter ...

[spurraider21]

2011 Dirk shits on Splitter ...
2003 duncan shits on dalembert. point?

[hater]

:pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

[hater]

:pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

[spurraider21]

:lol splitter's post up = retreat to 3 point line and hand it off.

[jeebus]

Patty the Piece of Shit tonight

[ElNono]

Pop about to have a heart attack

[hater]

:lol Pop calling Time Out :lol

[hater]

need to be on lucky page 70 IMO....

[hater]

need to be on lucky page 70 IMO.... need to be on lucky page 70 IMO....

[hater]

need to be on lucky page 70 IMO....need to be on lucky page 70 IMO....need to be on lucky page 70 IMO....

[Robz4000]

Spurs lucky Dallas is missing so many gimmes tbh. Feel like Dallas has a comeback in them.

[ElNono]

page 70?

[Hemotivo]

#70

[ElNono]

not yet

[ElNono]

hmmm

[Reck]

As long as Spurs win..

[hater]

page 70?

this thread is on page 69 for me...

[Hemotivo]

now?

[Reck]

Ima get it

[Reck]

fuckkkk lol

[ElNono]

fuck yeah

[jeebus]

on lucky page 21 right now for us cool members

[Hemotivo]

mine

[hater]

:tu :tu :tu

[Reck]

Nono still on page 69

[ElNono]

the fuck?

[Reck]

fuckkk why not still?

[ElNono]

here we go

[hater]

a few

[Hemotivo]

:(

[hater]

more...

[Hemotivo]

c'mon!

[Reck]

fuckkk why not still?

This one did it. jesus

[hater]

:tu

[Hemotivo]

free tiago

[Robz4000]

Hit your freebies ffs

[hater]

lotta time left....

[Hemotivo]

congrats

[jeebus]

shitter shitting on his shit talkers.

[Reck]

Steady at 10. Me likes

[ElNono]

somebody run over CWebb on the way out

[FkLA]

Dirk is a whiny little bitch tbh.

[hater]

still lotta time left...

[jeebus]

christ brooklyn sucks

[hater]

Tiago round 1 MVP imo

[Spur-Addict]

Splitter droppin' dimes

[Spur-Addict]

Teeeeeeeego

[hater]

Splitter MVP!!!!

[ElNono]

gotta boxout, fuck... make freebies too

[Robz4000]

Splitter doing work, but now Dirk is hot.

[hater]

Parker you stupid fuck

[FkLA]

Splitter doing work, but now Dirk is hot.

Just gotta put Splitter on him, his length bothers him. Most of these jumpers have been wide open or on Bonner.

[ElNono]

Enrique really has 16pts on 18 shots? :lmao

[jeebus]

RIP _'antoni

[Trainwreck2100]

Hopefully that timeout cooled down Dirk

[FkLA]

The offense is running through the Golden God. :lol

[Spur-Addict]

Teeeeeeeego Droppin' Diiiiiiiiiimes

[Robz4000]

Splitter tbh

[spurraider21]

to think if Duncan hit that open free throw jumper, Splitter would have 3 consecutive assists :wow

[ElNono]

:lol Devin Harris defense

[hater]

MVPSplitter :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow

[jeebus]

461678056663302145

Jeannie playing hardball imo

[JohnnyMax]

This is not the same Splitter from last year. Still has that 10 inch vertical but much more confident and skilled.

[Reck]

This is not the same Splitter from last year. Still has that 10 inch vertical but much more confident and skilled.

Countless memes and fun poking will do that to you. Put up or shut up.

[lefty]

Enrique fuck

[Chinook]

Dirk finally showed up. Too bad for him that Splitter is playing out of his mind right now. Great battle.

[jeebus]

Enrique

[ElNono]

make a fucking basket

[ambchang]

4 shots in a row by Parker! :lol

[lefty]

Russell Parker :lol

[ElNono]

Enrique

[Samuel Eto'o]

Things seeming pretty fluky in here, tbh....

[Spur-Addict]

That didn't look like a foul. Bad call

[jimbo]

Need to bump some of those comments from after Lebron's block on Tiago tbh

[hater]

Stupid Ginobili trying to go to OT once again

[Uriel]

Great win. :tu

[lefty]

Meh...

[ElNono]

game

[ambchang]

Duncan make a clutch layup.

[jeebus]

:lmao

[hater]

game

[FkLA]

We going back to the Finals...

:danceclub

[lefty]

:cry Enrique
:cry my Hero
:cry fuck you haters

[mavsfan1000]

Carlisle is an idiot. Dirk can't guard Duncan at center.

[MI21]

Dirk couldn't guard Jeff Ayres in the pick n roll, tbh.

[Reck]

Whew. Series over in 6.

[jeebus]

Dirk couldn't guard Jeff Ayres in the pick n roll, tbh.
He doesn't have to. Errors guards himself.

[hater]

WTF?

[hater]

Spurs choking in the last 30 seconds like usual :pctoss

[Robz4000]

Game not over

[mavsfan1000]

True. But he looks alright with a shotblocking center. Take that away and the Mavs are screwed.

[ElNono]

Spurs choking in the last 30 seconds like usual :pctoss

:lol chill

[Trainwreck2100]

How the fuck are they out of timeouts

[Reck]

Dont you hate it when the game is clearly over and yet the other team tries to foul when all hope is lost? END THIS

[mavsfan1000]

Congrats Spurs. Beat the Cheat.

[Spur-Addict]

Backcourt violation

[baseline bum]

Spurs played an almost perfect game (other than the Bellineli minutes) and only won by 6. No way this series is over.

[Robz4000]

We win!

[FkLA]

:lmao at that backcourt violation

[Reck]

The sticker still saying series still tied. :lol

[ElNono]

Congrats Spurs. Beat the Cheat.

:tu

[BanditHiro]

Spurs played an almost perfect game and only won by 6. No way this series is over.

you think the Mavs are going to hit all the bullshit shots they hit today?

[IrisHockey]

the Cheat.

:cry

[ElNono]

solid win, back in the driver's seat

[FkLA]

Spurs played an almost perfect game (other than the Bellineli minutes) and only won by 6. No way this series is over.

Carter shot like 90% from three...

[Trainwreck2100]

Spurs played an almost perfect game (other than the Bellineli minutes) and only won by 6. No way this series is over.

Is vc gonna continue to be a fucking tryhard

[Samuel Eto'o]

A ton of flukyness tonight, on both sides of the ball.

[DAF86]

lol Ellis stat padding at the end.

[HI-FI]

GG Spurs. Tiago has been an absolute badass this series. Carter is trying to make up for years of choking, so he hitting lots of shots but hopefully the law of averages will kick in.

[Ricky Davis]

Pretty good game tonight by San Antonio I think they've found their groove again. Dallas seems to have a different random player go off in every game this series + Dirk actually showing up on offense made it close.

Once they assumingly get by Dallas, I think they take Portland in five.

[Robz4000]

Spurs played an almost perfect game (other than the Bellineli minutes) and only won by 6. No way this series is over.

You shitting me? Dallas hit more flukey shots than Magic's taken dicks, not to mention they survived Dirk's superstar game. Might still go 7 tho.

[DAF86]

A ton of flukyness tonight, on both sides of the ball.

What was the Spurs flukyness, tbh? Splitter's lay-ups?

[Mugen]

Thank god for Devin Harris and Shawn Marion falling back to earth tbh.

[Jacob1983]

Well no sweep and no choking a 2-0, 3-0, or 3-1 lead for my Mavs. I want my Mavs to win but I think their chances of winning game 6 are very slim. Just lost their mojo after game 3. Mark Cuban needs to stop making shitty Shark Tank and get someone that defend the rim and also grab some damn rebounds and put the ball in the hoop. The Spurs have anal raped the Mavs in the paint this series. Pathetic.

[Ricky Davis]

Well no sweep and no choking a 2-0, 3-0, or 3-1 lead for my Mavs. I want my Mavs to win but I think their chances of winning game 6 are very slim. Just lost their mojo after game 3. Mark Cuban needs to stop making shitty Shark Tank and get someone that defend the rim and also grab some damn rebounds and put the ball in the hoop. The Spurs have anal raped the Mavs in the paint this series. Pathetic.

uhhh have you watched this series at all?

Wright and Dalembert have done a pretty decent job protecting the rim when given the chance. The Spurs are just exposing Matadirk's defense to death in the pick and roll especially the last two games

[Jacob1983]

Ginobili has been fuckin the paint and rim on a nightly basis in this series. I'd pick Wright over Dalembert.

[HI-FI]

Mavs have been a handful. It could go to 7 but I just want the Spurs to make it past the first round, especially after 6. Spurs have been building a groove lately, so that's good.

[Mugen]

At least Dejuan is back next game for rim protection.

[Ricky Davis]

Ginobili has been fuckin the paint and rim on a nightly basis in this series. I'd pick Wright over Dalembert.

Both have actually been pretty good when they're in the area. Even Blair was giving Duncan headaches until he went ooga booga on Splitter and got ejected. Problem is that they're usually assigned to Duncan who can make spot up shots if left open. They're just whoring the pick and roll with the other big that Dirk's guarding all night long. Dirk has to guard somebody as long as he's on the floor, and his man is usually the one scoring.

[spurraider21]

if duncan could hit his jumpers, the offense would click so much better

[Killakobe81]

if duncan could hit his jumpers, the offense would click so much better

Dallas could say the same about Dirk and Ellis at times in this series.

[Robz4000]

Dallas could say the same about Dirk and Ellis at times in this series.

Neither of theirs are wide open tho

[ElNono]

Dallas could say the same about Dirk and Ellis at times in this series.

not this game, Dirk was hitting everything in the 4th... I feel we finally played above average to survive his shooting and Vince's...

[DPG21920]

Both have actually been pretty good when they're in the area. Even Blair was giving Duncan headaches until he went ooga booga on Splitter and got ejected. Problem is that they're usually assigned to Duncan who can make spot up shots if left open. They're just whoring the pick and roll with the other big that Dirk's guarding all night long. Dirk has to guard somebody as long as he's on the floor, and his man is usually the one scoring.

Good observation. Dallas's only real counter to that is to have Duncan's man leave Tim open and force him to shoot that mid-range consistently. Leaving Dirk on the PnR Island is not going to work with the best PnR team in the business.

[Ricky Davis]

Good observation. Dallas's only real counter to that is to have Duncan's man leave Tim open and force him to shoot that mid-range consistently. Leaving Dirk on the PnR Island is not going to work with the best PnR team in the business.

The Spurs have exposed Dirk's lack of defense more than any team in the NBA. As much as I hate to say it, the Mavs were a little lucky not to draw the Spurs in 2011. As good as Dallas' defense was, they didn't play any team in the playoffs that turned Dirk into a turnstile like SA would have. Dallas had the perimeter defenders and size to counter Durant/Lebron ooga booga'ing into the lane with reckless abandon and the Lakers twin towers (Gasol turning into a cuck bailed out Dirk on defense) so nobody was able to go after Dirk like the Spurs usually do.

Jason Kidd/Dirk pnr defense against Parker/Ginobili makes me cringe although I can't remember if SA had a quality big man outside of Duncan in 11 to use it

[DPG21920]

Yup - Spurs are just one of the rare teams that will not only run a PnR, but run effectively and over and over and over. They don't ISO much (although Mavs have made them do that more often. But Spurs have adjusted by finding their way into the paint (especially TP/Manu - the Mavs defense works against the bench sans Manu, but lately TP/Manu have done enough). Then when Spurs bigs remembered they can pass and score it became a big issue for Dallas.

Tim's jumper is broke and I would gamble with that option if I were Dallas. Now, it becomes difficult if the Spurs have proper spacing, but it's a counter.

[Arcadian]

Durant/Lebron ooga booga'ing into the lane with reckless abandon

:lol ooga booga'ing...I like that description.

[TDMVPDPOY]

didnt enrique sprain his ankle game 5? how he become injury free for game 6?

reminds me of game 5+6 of the finals, ive seen fakers and his one of them...

[DAF86]

If im Dirk i wont shake hands with Gino after the series...


Me neither. I have mad respect for Duncan for what he's still able to do at his age, but this flopping piece of sh*t Ginobili... I can't stand this guy. Same with Bowen when he was playing for the Spurs, that dirty f*cker who put his foot on purpose below jump shooters.


If i was Dirk, i would puke in his Jersey ffs

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38845&page=4

Muahahahahahaha

[Splits]

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38845&page=4

Muahahahahahaha

:lol 7 page game thread

[Mugen]

A ton of flukyness tonight, on both sides of the ball.

Didn't see a lot of fluky-ness aside from Vince turning back the clock tbh.

[Jacob1983]

It would be awesome to see the Spurs blow back to back 3-2 series leads but I'm not optimistic at all. And my Mavs have to win game 6 to even have a chance of it.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38845&page=4

Muahahahahahaha
Those faggots have no problem when Dirk flops and probably loved all of Barea's flops too :lol

[Gummi Clutch]

It would be awesome to see the Spurs blow back to back 3-2 series leads but I'm not optimistic at all. And my Mavs have to win game 6 to even have a chance of it.
They aren't your mavs, but their asses will be the spurs' now

[TDMVPDPOY]

the german attack had so much going for them till the alliance woke up

[Chinook]

It would be awesome to see the Spurs blow back to back 3-2 series leads but I'm not optimistic at all. And my Mavs have to win game 6 to even have a chance of it.

If it makes you feel better, the Spurs are 1-3 in Game Sixes over the past three years.

[Jacob1983]

They are my Mavs bitch. And that 2011 championship is mine too. Still butthurt over 6? Spurs and Lakers fans always sticking their chest and bragging about owning a million championships. Well guess what fuckers, Mavs fans got one too.

[Gummi Clutch]

They are my Mavs bitch. And that 2011 championship is mine too. Still butthurt over 6? Spurs and Lakers fans always sticking their chest and bragging about owning a million championships. Well guess what fuckers, Mavs fans got one too.
Mavs fluked a ring :cry and I gots that ring :cry too


:lol They aren't your mavs, get the fuck over it ass twat. Their asses already belong to the spurs though, so you can take it up with Duncan (who is into that shit anyways)

[Robz4000]

They are my Mavs bitch. And that 2011 championship is mine too. Still butthurt over 6? Spurs and Lakers fans always sticking their chest and bragging about owning a million championships. Well guess what fuckers, Mavs fans got one too.

:lol Calm down scro, no one's looking down on your 2011 run or your fan card.

[Jacob1983]

My Mavs are the only team to eliminate the Heat in the Finals and eliminate Tim Duncan in a game 7 at home. Nice try though. The butthurt is strong in you.

[Mugen]

:lol Put down the knife, Jacob.

[Gummi Clutch]

Thats why the went from champions to a non playoff team ? :lmao

Fluky run, and they still aren't your mavs. Like I said, get over it. Maybe Cuban will go full on shark tank mode and sell the team after you work long enough hours at your toilet cleaning job to buy them.

[Jacob1983]

They are my Mavs and always will be my Mavs. Nothing you say will change it. I am the master and commander, bitch.

[Gummi Clutch]

They are my Mavs :cry and always will be my Mavs :cry. Nothing you say will change it:cry. I am the master and commander, bitch. :madrun

Nope, still don't see it.

[ezau]

They are my Mavs and always will be my Mavs. Nothing you say will change it. I am the master and commander, bitch.

Calm down brah. Mavs have been fantastic in this series and it's not yet over. I won't be surprised if Dirk and company call pull off a Game 6 win, tbh.

[Thebesteva]

If Spurs play blazers thats gonna be an interesting series. Blazers have been very young and strong while Spurs have been Spurs. I think a Rockets series would be easier, but maybe Im wrong.

[Spurs da champs]

If Spurs play blazers thats gonna be an interesting series. Blazers have been very young and strong while Spurs have been Spurs. I think a Rockets series would be easier, but maybe Im wrong.

Rockets are loaded with Spur killers (Harden, Parsons, T Jones), the Blazers are tough but they ain't got any depth, their starters have to play insane minutes every game. Blazers will be worn out in another 7 game series, granted they win this series.

[Sportstudi]

Those faggots have no problem when Dirk flops and probably loved all of Barea's flops too :lol

Says the one who has the king of flopping (Paul) on his team and his apprentice (Griffin).

[Findog]

The Mavs have been tremendous just to get it to a sixth game. This Spurs team is a machine. That they were able to disrupt that machine and be the better team for the first three games...I'm not into moral victories, I want the upset, but I am proud of the way they have hung in there against the Spurs. If OKC loses to the Grizz, I see SA handling either Portland/Houston and then LAC/Memphis/GS. Mavs are playing the likely conference champs really tough and if they can get it to a G7, anything can happen.

[Franklin]

Mavs are already overachieving as they've proven wrong those Spurs fans who thought the series would be an easy one. If I were a Mavs fan I'd be proud of what they've done regardless of the final results. Mavs had their chance in this series but they pissed their chances away, which was as big a pity as our 6, but I still feel proud of our performance in the 13' finals despite the result so I think Mavs fans should be proud of their team too.

[Phillip]

Not proud at all yet.

They proved they are good enough to not just hang with the Spurs, but beat the Spurs. They outplayed them for 14 of 16 quarters in the first 4 games, yet only won 2 of the 4 games. The ways they shoot themselves in the foot is not due to lack of ability or talent... its due to selfishness, lack of focus, and a lack of heart and effort. And its extremely irritating to watch.

If they beat the Spurs, I will be proud.

If they lose to them, I will only be upset seeing that they could have very easily dispatched the Spurs in 5 if they would have simply been more mentally focused. They have a great coach, good talent, and the matchups were very good for them. There is no excuse for playing with a lack of heart (Wright, Dirk), being selfish to the detriment of the team (Monta, Harris, Vince), or good FT shooters missing countless FTs (virtually the entire team).

[100%duncan]

Not proud at all yet.

They proved they are good enough to not just hang with the Spurs, but beat the Spurs. They outplayed them for 14 of 16 quarters in the first 4 games, yet only won 2 of the 4 games. The ways they shoot themselves in the foot is not due to lack of ability or talent... its due to selfishness, lack of focus, and a lack of heart and effort. And its extremely irritating to watch.

If they beat the Spurs, I will be proud.

If they lose to them, I will only be upset seeing that they could have very easily dispatched the Spurs in 5 if they would have simply been more mentally focused. They have a great coach, good talent, and the matchups were very good for them. There is no excuse for playing with a lack of heart (Wright, Dirk), being selfish to the detriment of the team (Monta, Harris, Vince), or good FT shooters missing countless FTs (virtually the entire team).

14 out of 16? Spurs won every quarter in game 5 and if it weren't for Vince's lucky ass shots the game would have been a blowout and the series should have been over by now.

They have a better coach? We have the CoTY. Good talent? A chucking point-guard, an ancient carter and a tired Dirk? No they could not beat the Spurs let alone beat them in 5 games.

You are one delusional fan who doesn't appreciate what Mavs has done, make the Spurs work.

[Ricky Davis]

Not proud at all yet.

They proved they are good enough to not just hang with the Spurs, but beat the Spurs. They outplayed them for 14 of 16 quarters in the first 4 games, yet only won 2 of the 4 games. The ways they shoot themselves in the foot is not due to lack of ability or talent... its due to selfishness, lack of focus, and a lack of heart and effort. And its extremely irritating to watch.

If they beat the Spurs, I will be proud.

If they lose to them, I will only be upset seeing that they could have very easily dispatched the Spurs in 5 if they would have simply been more mentally focused. They have a great coach, good talent, and the matchups were very good for them. There is no excuse for playing with a lack of heart (Wright, Dirk), being selfish to the detriment of the team (Monta, Harris, Vince), or good FT shooters missing countless FTs (virtually the entire team).

idk about all that. As a fellow _allas MavPrick fan, I have to agree with Findog in almost seeing this as a moral victory that it goes 6. Yeah it's irritating to watch it get close and then appear to slip away but pretty much all the time, the winner of a playoff series is the team that gets the easier shots more often. Either by superstar play, teams that can generate wide open 3's, big men down low, or guys like Lebron/Durant/Harden who can ooga booga their way into the lane and get to the foul line more often.

The Spurs have a system that continually gets them easier shots whereas the Mavs really don't other than the stretch where Ellis was getting open shots off the pick and roll (good luck with depending on Ellis to carry you a whole series lulz). tbh this inconsistency has really been how Dallas has played all year. Get the typical contributions from Ellis/Dirk then have some random 3rd player play way above his head.

Devin Stockton Harris
Vince Drexler Carter
Djuan Blair Chamberlain (in that brief stretch in game 4)
Samuel Mutombo
etc

I wouldn't say anybody is playing with a lack of heart. Dirk is just too old to go God mode every night and Popovich is mercilessly attacking him on defense on all game.

[leemajors]

14 out of 16? Spurs won every quarter in game 5 and if it weren't for Vince's lucky ass shots the game would have been a blowout and the series should have been over by now.

They have a better coach? We have the CoTY. Good talent? A chucking point-guard, an ancient carter and a tired Dirk? No they could not beat the Spurs let alone beat them in 5 games.

You are one delusional fan who doesn't appreciate what Mavs has done, make the Spurs work.

I see you missed the part when he said 14 of 16, meaning the first 4 games not including the 5th.

[100%duncan]

I see you missed the part when he said 14 of 16, meaning the first 4 games not including the 5th.

I know that. The point of my post was he was being so delusional thinking Mavs is the better team, his claims were of a fanboy.

[Findog]

It's true that the Mavs had a really great shot to put this series in a vice-grip but they didn't get it done. You have to give some credit to San Antonio. They are just better and over the course of a series that is going to come out - the coaching is essentially a wash, and both these teams have oodles of playoff experience and the Mavs can match the Spurs in terms of veteran execution and poise. Teams like Dallas and San Antonio tend to not beat themselves - you have to outshoot and outwork them. The Spurs just have a little bit more depth, fewer holes that they have to plug than the Mavs. For Dallas to win a series like this, every break has to go your way instead of it being a wash. Going ice-cold at the end of Game 1, falling into a hole in Game 4 and having to expend huge energy just to make it a game again. For this Mavs team to have a chance against this Spurs team they essentially have to be perfect instead of pretty good.

I don't think it's true that his Mavs team hasn't shown enough heart, fight and poise. Yes, they have not capitalized on some missed opportunities, but I think it is an accomplishment to be going home playing for a chance to send this to a 7th game, and anything goes in those. I'd give the Mavs a 2/3 chance of extending the series on Friday and a 1/3 chance of winning a G7 in San Antonio.

[Mugen]

Game 5 had all the makings of a Spurs blowout but Dallas was TP 3 pointer away from winning that game or at least going to overtime tbh. A Game 7 wouldn't surprise me in the least as Dallas is playing out of their minds.

[Phillip]

14 out of 16? Spurs won every quarter in game 5 and if it weren't for Vince's lucky ass shots the game would have been a blowout and the series should have been over by now.

They have a better coach? We have the CoTY. Good talent? A chucking point-guard, an ancient carter and a tired Dirk? No they could not beat the Spurs let alone beat them in 5 games.

You are one delusional fan who doesn't appreciate what Mavs has done, make the Spurs work.

First 4 games does not include game 5. The majority of the first 4 games had the Mavs even with or considerably outplaying the Spurs, outside of the 4th quarter of game 1, and the 2nd quarter of game 4.

Who said the Mavs have a better coach? I simply said they have a great coach.

The Mavs have plenty of solid players. Obviously that is evident by the fact that they are hanging around in this series. If they so severely lacked talent as you suggest, then they would have been swept, or lost in 5.

No fan should be happy with mediocrity when they are capable of more. This entire season has been nothing but massive underachieving by the Mavs due to lazy play and lack of heart. So no, I don't think I should be happy with this season if it ends with less than 50 wins, an 8th seed, and a first round exit when they clearly were talented and built well enough to be 2+ seeds higher, have over 50 wins, and get to the second round or higher.

[Findog]

I would also go so far as to say that if OKC falls to Memphis, then the Spurs will not get a tougher test than Dallas before their Finals rematch with Miami. Assuming Portland hangs on to beat Bible Kemp and Chiclet Teeth, I think they will be a tougher test than any of LAC/GS/Memphis. I think the Sterling scandal is going to take its toll on the Clippers.

[Mugen]

If the Spurs advance, they are gonna have loads of trouble against either HOU/POR tbh.

[Findog]

If the Spurs advance, they are gonna have loads of trouble against either HOU/POR tbh.

Sorry, but no team with "leaders" like Dwight Howard, James Harden and Kevin McHale stands a chance against Pop, Duncan, Parker and Manu. Houston is talented enough to win two games but no fucking way in hell do they have any chance against the Spurs.

Terry Stotts has turned into a good coach, LMA is playing like a Top Ten guy and the Blazers have lots of youth and athleticism. I think they'll give San Antonio fits.

[Phillip]

I wouldn't say anybody is playing with a lack of heart. Dirk is just too old to go God mode every night and Popovich is mercilessly attacking him on defense on all game.
until late last night, Dirk has not shown much heart or focus all series. we know he isn't much of a defender, but his defense has been beyond abysmal this series, costing the Mavs dearly in game 4 leaving Diaw wide open, when the focus of their defense clearly has been to not allow shooters to kill them. Either way, we are supposed to be able to live with his lack of defense due to his offensive contributions, but unfortunately that's pretty much been nonexistent most of the series.

And Wright? :lmao he isn't giving any effort whatsoever on defense unless its a massive weakside block. I don't expect him to push Timmy around, but I also don't expect him to give such a lack of effort to at least TRY to push Duncan off his spots either.

Ellis has been flat out garbage, not looking to pass when he drives. They are swarming him at the rim, and instead of either using a floater or passing to the open man, he tries to force some ridiculous acrobatic layup and misses terribly. And of course missing clutch FTs as usual. I couldn't believe he hit both FTs last night late in the game... may have been the first time all season he hit 2 consecutive clutch FTs.

[100%duncan]

First 4 games does not include game 5. The majority of the first 4 games had the Mavs even with or considerably outplaying the Spurs, outside of the 4th quarter of game 1, and the 2nd quarter of game 4.

Who said the Mavs have a better coach? I simply said they have a great coach.

The Mavs have plenty of solid players. Obviously that is evident by the fact that they are hanging around in this series. If they so severely lacked talent as you suggest, then they would have been swept, or lost in 5.

No fan should be happy with mediocrity when they are capable of more. This entire season has been nothing but massive underachieving by the Mavs due to lazy play and lack of heart. So no, I don't think I should be happy with this season if it ends with less than 50 wins, an 8th seed, and a first round exit when they clearly were talented and built well enough to be 2+ seeds higher, have over 50 wins, and get to the second round or higher.

Sure lucky 3's=talent nowadays. Read my post in reply to 14 out of 16. You said you had a great coach so I pointed out that Spurs have a BETTER coach, all of which point to you being unappreciative of your team's play considering the things they lack.

[Phillip]

I know that. The point of my post was he was being so delusional thinking Mavs is the better team, his claims were of a fanboy.

Didn't say the Mavs were a better team. Just a team that had opportunities to be either up 3-2 or have won the series 4-1, and didn't take advantage of those opportunities due to lack of heart or completely silly mistakes.

Is that any different than you spurfans being upset that the Spurs choked away the opportunity to win the Finals 4-2, but instead lost 3-4? :rolleyes

[Findog]

How have the Mavs won two games in this series when everybody is playing like garbage?

Dirk has never been confused with being a rim protector. The Spurs know how to exploit this and make him a turnstile off the P'n'R. Also if you're Dirk and you know your team needs your offense or at least the attention you draw on offense to open up the floor for your teammates when your shot isn't falling, then you can't get into foul trouble sending guys to the FT line when they attack you in the paint. Wright, Blair and Sammy are all decent bigs, but you cannot count on them night after night on a consistent basis. It is not a secret that the Mavs won their only title when he was paired with an elite defensive big.

[Phillip]

Sure lucky 3's=talent nowadays.

So then the Spurs bench must be incredibly talented by that statement. Is that what you are implying?


You said you had a great coach so I pointed out that Spurs have a BETTER coach

Oh, so in other words you got butthurt over a simple compliment to Carlisle, that you had to point out the superiority of your own coach, which had absolutely nothing to do with the original statement at hand. Gotcha :tu

[monosylab1k]

The Mavs are who we thought they were - not that great. While you can spin it that they were a Game 1 meltdown from being up 3-2 in this series, you can also spin that they're one Vince Carter miracle shot from this series already being over in 5.

Getting 2 wins and giving the Spurs & their fans a hell of a scare is about the best you could hope for. Rick has coached his ass off this series to get them this far, but unfortunately this team just isn't very good.

[Findog]

The Mavs are who we thought they were - not that great. While you can spin it that they were a Game 1 meltdown from being up 3-2 in this series, you can also spin that they're one Vince Carter miracle shot from this series already being over in 5.

Getting 2 wins and giving the Spurs & their fans a hell of a scare is about the best you could hope for. Rick has coached his ass off this series to get them this far, but unfortunately this team just isn't very good.

They're a good team, just not an elite team. They're a rung below San Antonio, Miami and OKC.

[Mugen]

Sorry, but no team with "leaders" like Dwight Howard, James Harden and Kevin McHale stands a chance against Pop, Duncan, Parker and Manu. Houston is talented enough to win two games but no fucking way in hell do they have any chance against the Spurs.

Terry Stotts has turned into a good coach, LMA is playing like a Top Ten guy and the Blazers have lots of youth and athleticism. I think they'll give San Antonio fits.

I'm not saying the Spurs will lose but they'll definitely have a lot of trouble with the Rockets. Dwight has actually played very well against POR and his paint protection will be huge against SA who have had an open invitation to the rim all series long outside of some Dalembert challenges. I can't see Harden playing that bad should they advance and Pop has lost to shitty coaches before tbh (See 2012).

I'd actually be more confident in playing POR even though I'm scared to think what Lillard would do considering Calderon has been lighting the Spurs up.

[monosylab1k]

This series tells me more about the Spurs than the Mavs. Mostly that the Spurs aren't winning shit this year.

[100%duncan]

So then the Spurs bench must be incredibly talented by that statement. Is that what you are implying?

Sure those are your own words.

Oh, so in other words you got butthurt over a simple compliment to Carlisle, that you had to point out the superiority of your own coach, which had absolutely nothing to do with the original statement at hand. Gotcha :tu
Why would I be butthurt? We are up 3-2 for fuck's sake :lol. Having a great coach go against the CoTY and making lucky shots =/= "could've easily beaten the spurs in 5."

[monosylab1k]

They're a good team, just not an elite team. They're a rung below San Antonio, Miami and OKC.

If Scott Brooks coached this team they'd have gone 38-44.

Really, this team isn't any better than last year's team. Give last year's team a healthy Dirk all year and they get pretty close to 49 wins. Dirk & Carlisle are all thats keeping this team relevant, everybody else on this team is mediocre to bad

[Phillip]

How have the Mavs won two games in this series when everybody is playing like garbage?

Who said everyone has been playing like garbage? I only referenced Dirk, Wright, and Ellis, all of whom have been generally garbage outside of a few moments here and there. The series has been mostly saved by Marion, Calderon, Carter, and Dalembert.


Dirk has never been confused with being a rim protector. The Spurs know how to exploit this and make him a turnstile off the P'n'R. Also if you're Dirk and you know your team needs your offense or at least the attention you draw on offense to open up the floor for your teammates when your shot isn't falling, then you can't get into foul trouble sending guys to the FT line when they attack you in the paint. Wright, Blair and Sammy are all decent bigs, but you cannot count on them night after night on a consistent basis. It is not a secret that the Mavs won their only title when he was paired with an elite defensive big.

No one said we want Dirk to be a rim protector. I simply said that normally, we can live with his awful defense because he is providing deadly offense. But until late last night, he hasn't provided much offense at all, and has been mostly unaggressive.

[Findog]

This Mavs team offensively is better than the 2011 team. They also give up nearly 4 more ppg than the 2011 team did. They need to figure out a way to upgrade the D in the offseason. They're not that far off from rejoining the Elite level but they don't have much of a window left. Dirk is about 75 percent of what he was in the title year. I think he has two more years of All-Star caliber production left. I think they have done a great job of resurrecting Ellis's year. Not high on the Calderon signing. Honestly, they need a better, more consistent rim protector. PG and C continue to be the weaknesses of this team since 2011.

[Mugen]

This series tells me more about the Spurs than the Mavs. Mostly that the Spurs aren't winning shit this year.

There really hasn't been a dominant performance from any one team outside of Miami and their first round bye against a Bobcats team without Big Al tbh.

But I agree that Rick and the Mavs have exposed a lot of the Spurs' flaws so far this series. Just not sure that there are many coaches outside of Carlisle that can thoroughly outcoach Pop like he has so far, should the Spurs advance.

[Findog]

No one said we want Dirk to be a rim protector. I simply said that normally, we can live with his awful defense because he is providing deadly offense. But until late last night, he hasn't provided much offense at all, and has been mostly unaggressive.

I think you have to give San Antonio credit. At this stage of his career, Dirk just can't finish at the basket like he used to, and that makes it easier for a guy like Splitter to guard him. Not every team has a Splitter, but the Spurs are basically forcing the secondary Mavs to beat them instead of Dirk - at various times Vince, Devin, Calderon have done that in this series.

[Phillip]

Sure those are your own words.

Never said that at all, nor anything remotely close to that.


Why would I be butthurt? We are up 3-2 for fuck's sake :lol.

You tell me. You are the one who took offense to me stating that the Mavs have a great coach.


Having a great coach go against the CoTY and making lucky shots =/= "could've easily beaten the spurs in 5."

Yeah, that was pretty much exactly my point. The Mavs had opportunities to make this series theirs, and blew their opportunities. I never said the Mavs are better, or should have been predicted to win the series. All I've said is that they had opportunities that presented themselves to pull off the upset, and they massively blew those chances.

[Phillip]

I think you have to give San Antonio credit. At this stage of his career, Dirk just can't finish at the basket like he used to, and that makes it easier for a guy like Splitter to guard him. Not every team has a Splitter, but the Spurs are basically forcing the secondary Mavs to beat them instead of Dirk - at various times Vince, Devin, Calderon have done that in this series.

It's not just about scoring. Dirk is still consistently drawing double teams (because 1-on-1 he has shown even in this series that he can still score easily on Duncan, Diaw, and Splitter) and heavy defensive attention. He should be aggressive and still use that attention to create for his teammates. But he isn't doing that at all.

[monosylab1k]

This Mavs team offensively is better than the 2011 team. They also give up nearly 4 more ppg than the 2011 team did. They need to figure out a way to upgrade the D in the offseason. They're not that far off from rejoining the Elite level but they don't have much of a window left. Dirk is about 75 percent of what he was in the title year. I think he has two more years of All-Star caliber production left. I think they have done a great job of resurrecting Ellis's year. Not high on the Calderon signing. Honestly, they need a better, more consistent rim protector. PG and C continue to be the weaknesses of this team since 2011.

The numbers may say offensively they're "better", but there's no fucking way i trust Calderon/Ellis/Carter/Dalembert to get a needed bucket more than Kidd/Terry/Barea/Chandler

[Ricky Davis]

yeah I forgot about Marion, he's the one guy who's been sort of consistent this series. Outside of 1-2 goofy shots a game, he's been pretty solid

[Findog]

The numbers may say offensively they're "better", but there's no fucking way i trust Calderon/Ellis/Carter/Dalembert to get a needed bucket more than Kidd/Terry/Barea/Chandler

Well getting to the playoffs requires winning enough games over the course of 82 to qualify. Those wins against Sacramento and Utah count.

[Findog]

yeah I forgot about Marion, he's the one guy who's been sort of consistent this series. Outside of 1-2 goofy shots a game, he's been pretty solid

Spurs are conceding open Marion three-pointers from the wing. :lol

[baseline bum]

The Spurs have exposed Dirk's lack of defense more than any team in the NBA. As much as I hate to say it, the Mavs were a little lucky not to draw the Spurs in 2011. As good as Dallas' defense was, they didn't play any team in the playoffs that turned Dirk into a turnstile like SA would have. Dallas had the perimeter defenders and size to counter Durant/Lebron ooga booga'ing into the lane with reckless abandon and the Lakers twin towers (Gasol turning into a cuck bailed out Dirk on defense) so nobody was able to go after Dirk like the Spurs usually do.

Jason Kidd/Dirk pnr defense against Parker/Ginobili makes me cringe although I can't remember if SA had a quality big man outside of Duncan in 11 to use it

11 was still the Bonner+Blair era, and Splitter got minimal playing time. I think 2011 Dallas takes the 2011 Spurs pretty easily in 6, maybe 5.

[Phillip]

yeah I forgot about Marion, he's the one guy who's been sort of consistent this series. Outside of 1-2 goofy shots a game, he's been pretty solid

IMO Marion and Dalembert both have not been getting enough minutes. Wright and Crowder need considerably less minutes, and Carter could have a few minutes cut as well if he's not hitting his jumper.

Marion and Dalembert have been the MVPs for Dallas so far in this series. Great defense, effort, and both of them seem to consistently come up with a bucket when the Mavs are cold to help stop the bleeding.

[monosylab1k]

Well getting to the playoffs requires winning enough games over the course of 82 to qualify. Those wins against Sacramento and Utah count.

Sorry, but if the question "where would they be without Devin Harris?" is ever asked about a basketball team, then they just aren't very good.

[Phillip]

Sorry, but if the question "where would they be without Devin Harris?" is ever asked about a basketball team, then they just aren't very good.

IMO the Mavs have more talent than you say. I think the issue for most of the season has been effort and chemistry.

Many games were lost due to a lack of fire and energy, which can be attributed to the team being older, and is expected. So that part is kind of understandable for the regular season.

But the other thing that often lost games, was that the offense looked completely lost late in close games. There had to have been 10-12 games that they lost that came down to the final minute, where their offense just looked like a mess. I think that is where lack of chemistry came into play. I doubt we see this same team blow as many games in similar situations next year after they have had a full season to play with each other. That is usually where chemistry affects a team the most, is their late game half court offense. Generally, their offense was at its best when they ran a Dirk/Ellis PnR, much like in the past how it was a Dirk/Terry PnR. So hopefully they focus on using that primarily for their late game offense next season. Unfortunately, this team is also only getting older, so even though their chemistry should be much improved next year, their general playing ability may diminish further.

Either way it all boils down to this simple fact... Mark Cuban is a faggot.

[Mugen]

Marion is 7/27 the last 3 games. His defensive impact is also lessened greatly when we have both TP/Manu out there as we can just PnR with whoever he isn't guarding.

[monosylab1k]

Either way it all boils down to this simple fact... Mark Cuban is a faggot.

Who knows, maybe this offseason is the one. Maybe LeBron will be really impressed when Cuban skips the free agency meeting with him to film Shark Tank and instead emails LeBron a cartoon he drew for him.

[Phillip]

Marion is 7/27 the last 3 games. His defensive impact is also lessened greatly when we have both TP/Manu out there as we can just PnR with whoever he isn't guarding.

They really don't need him on TP at this point. He hasn't been driving effectively on anyone except Harris because he has a tendency to overplay too much. Even Calderon has been able to stay in front of Parker generally. His ankle must really be in bad shape if Calderon can somehow stick with him. Either way, all they need to do is go under the PnR and live with Parker shooting long 2s. If he hits, so be it.

Taking away the dribble penetration of Manu is more important at this time.

[Phillip]

Who knows, maybe this offseason is the one. Maybe LeBron will be really impressed when Cuban skips the free agency meeting with him to film Shark Tank and instead emails LeBron a cartoon he drew for him.

Nah, his plans are to get Carmello this offseason, and add K-Love next offseason. It's pretty much a done deal in Cuban's eyes, so we should feel safe for years to come :toast

[Findog]

Who knows, maybe this offseason is the one. Maybe LeBron will be really impressed when Cuban skips the free agency meeting with him to film Shark Tank and instead emails LeBron a cartoon he drew for him.

Sign CP3 after the League grants an opt-out to every Clipper.

[Ricky Davis]

is Danny Fortson still around?

[Clipper Nation]

Sign CP3 after the League grants an opt-out to every Clipper.
:lol Haters are so desperate.... newsflash: Silver already said that's not happening....

[Findog]

:lol Haters are so desperate.... newsflash: Silver already said that's not happening....

I can dream.

[Ricky Davis]

They really don't need him on TP at this point. He hasn't been driving effectively on anyone except Harris because he has a tendency to overplay too much. Even Calderon has been able to stay in front of Parker generally. His ankle must really be in bad shape if Calderon can somehow stick with him. Either way, all they need to do is go under the PnR and live with Parker shooting long 2s. If he hits, so be it.

Taking away the dribble penetration of Manu is more important at this time.

That's what I was thinking too IMHO. Put Marion on Ginobili and go under every screen for Parker. If he hits all those jumpers, oh well.

[Ricky Davis]

:lol Haters are so desperate.... newsflash: Silver already said that's not happening....

sup scro? Didn't see you at the triple kegger the other weekend. You've been pretty flaky lately tbh

[Clipper Nation]

I can dream.
They could never enforce a contract ever again if Silver set a precedent that they can be voided at any time, tbh....

[ElNono]

How have the Mavs won two games in this series when everybody is playing like garbage?

Some of our guys have been playing like absolute garbage themselves, tbh... In the first 4 games, Enrique had about 2 good quarters... it's unacceptable anyway you look at it. Mills only showed up very sporadically in the last 2 games. Beli is still trying to find directions to the arena, dude is a complete no-show this series. Diaw was also pretty terrible until game 4. Don't wanna take anything away from the Mavs, but we've been doing a lot of this to ourselves, which is perhaps the most disappointing part of it.

[Findog]

They could never enforce a contract ever again if Silver set a precedent that they can be voided at any time, tbh....

Yeah, I know. It was just wishful thinking out loud. I know we're not going to get CP3.

I do wonder what will happen if Sterling gets a restraining order from a judge to reinstitute him as having daily operational control over the Clippers. The players union will instruct free agents not to sign with LAC. Existing players will demand a trade and refuse to suit up. He has to know that effectively speaking things can't go back to the way they were.

[Mugen]

The Mavs can just overpay Ariza/Deng in the summer tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

It's fun to read Findog, mono and stretch break down Mavs games

[leemajors]

It's fun to read Findog, mono and stretch break down Mavs games

:tu

[Findog]

It's fun to read Findog, mono and stretch break down Mavs games

It's like 2009 all over again.

[Ricky Davis]

It's fun to read Findog, mono and stretch break down Mavs games

Findog/mono...yes

stretch?...fuck that guy with a rusty knife. i actually relocated my family to port arthur because of that poster tbh imho

[DPG21920]

I don't get what Philip is talking about. Mavs deserve credit, but they are a mediocre to below average defense (especially for a playoff team) that has a gimmicky strategy that would literally only work against the Spurs. They are playing well above their heads collectively and because of that, its been a great series.

But they are no where near the team that the Spurs are. Spurs have played incredibly poorly and I agree with that it says more about the Spurs than the Mavs. The fact the Mavs didn't lose in 5 & the fact they could have won this series is a huge testament to their coach and players. But make no mistake - Spurs are clearly the better team.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

http://youtu.be/N0pkwMQUvJs the last game 6 these two teams played against each other:flag: