Church of Kyle Anderson

[tholdren]

Maybe, maybe not.
Then it really takes away from what it means to being a "pro" if he's a maybe not. Letting in too many unready players and having too many unacceptable organizations = worse view of entire league. You see that on a larger scale in summer league. Guys who literally have zero skill. They make players like Simmons and Anderson seem great - then Simmons and Anderson get worked in the "big time"

[GSH]

I do run a schtick with SAGirl, who's a good sport


She is, in fact, a good sport. (Assuming that "she" isn't some pot-bellied 50 year-old guy with 9 alts. :D) A good while back, she spouted some stuff about a couple of players, back when they were in college, and she hadn't hat time to Google for it - so I know she's more than a casual basketball fan. Sometimes it's hard to be totally objective about a player that you really just like. Not that you would know anything about that :rolleyes, but I'm guilty of it. She's got a lot invested in KA, and she takes some merciless shit over it. I hope he steps up so much that she gets an opportunity for a lot of "I told you so's". For his sake, her sake, and the team's.

From the very beginning, I said that I thought KA could become a solid contributor at the NBA level. Not a star, but a consistent part of the rotation. I still think he could. My biggest problem is that he's such a mixed bag, and I've gotten really down on tweeners. Technically not "tweener" for Kyle, but guys who don't fit well in any defined position. And he still looks too doughy to me, to play the 4 in the NBA. Have some pride, Kyle. Get yourself some steroids and hit the weight room. Maybe a prominent brow ridge will make your forehead look less funny.

[tonight...you]

She is, in fact, a good sport. (Assuming that "she" isn't some pot-bellied 50 year-old guy with 9 alts. :D) A good while back, she spouted some stuff about a couple of players, back when they were in college, and she hadn't hat time to Google for it - so I know she's more than a casual basketball fan. Sometimes it's hard to be totally objective about a player that you really just like. Not that you would know anything about that :rolleyes, but I'm guilty of it. She's got a lot invested in KA, and she takes some merciless shit over it. I hope he steps up so much that she gets an opportunity for a lot of "I told you so's". For his sake, her sake, and the team's.

From the very beginning, I said that I thought KA could become a solid contributor at the NBA level. Not a star, but a consistent part of the rotation. I still think he could. My biggest problem is that he's such a mixed bag, and I've gotten really down on tweeners. Technically not "tweener" for Kyle, but guys who don't fit well in any defined position. And he still looks too doughy to me, to play the 4 in the NBA. Have some pride, Kyle. Get yourself some steroids and hit the weight room. Maybe a prominent brow ridge will make your forehead look less funny.
I don't care at all about her I Told You So's (sorry SAGirl), but damn, I want Kyle to succeed. This team needs him to succeed.
He has to succeed, or this team is absolutely going nowhere.

And LOL on the brow ridge... Good stuff!

[ElNono]

She is, in fact, a good sport. (Assuming that "she" isn't some pot-bellied 50 year-old guy with 9 alts. :D) A good while back, she spouted some stuff about a couple of players, back when they were in college, and she hadn't hat time to Google for it - so I know she's more than a casual basketball fan. Sometimes it's hard to be totally objective about a player that you really just like. Not that you would know anything about that :rolleyes, but I'm guilty of it. She's got a lot invested in KA, and she takes some merciless shit over it. I hope he steps up so much that she gets an opportunity for a lot of "I told you so's". For his sake, here sake, and the team's.

From the very beginning, I said that I thought KA could become a solid contributor at the NBA level. Not a star, but a consistent part of the rotation. I still think he could. My biggest problem is that he's such a mixed bag, and I've gotten really down on tweeners. Technically not "tweener" for Kyle, but guys who don't fit well in any defined position. And he still looks too doughy to me, to play the 4 in the NBA. Have some pride, Kyle. Get yourself some steroids and hit the weight room. Maybe a prominent brow ridge will make your forehead look less funny.

I was taught to never accept free candy, so the bolded is not really a problem for me, tbh...

Everybody got their favorite guy, tbh, and it's obviously easier to defend your position when the guy is (or was) an All Star or Hall of Famer... I certainly wouldn't want to be walking in her shoes (rhetorically and otherwise, women seem to complain about their shoes all the time), and I'm not particularly a guy of faith, so, you know, I'll just wait and see. But I have no problem with player-fans, and those that do have the faith I lack. I probably won't agree about the alleged bonafides until I see them, but c'est la vie.

[TrainOfThought5]

Then it really takes away from what it means to being a "pro" if he's a maybe not. Letting in too many unready players and having too many unacceptable organizations = worse view of entire league. You see that on a larger scale in summer league. Guys who literally have zero skill. They make players like Simmons and Anderson seem great - then Simmons and Anderson get worked in the "big time"

I see, but what if youre completely wrong?

[Mikeanaro]

I'm not particularly a guy of faith.
How can someone have faith when Matt Bonner technically is still on the team...

[tonight...you]

How can someone have faith when Matt Bonner technically is still on the team...
He is? Technically?

[tholdren]

I see, but what if youre completely wrong?
doesn't matter - no ones opinion does. Been wrong a million times will be wrong again.

[tonight...you]

doesn't matter - no ones opinion does. Been wrong a million times will be wrong again.
Makes life easy when you have no standards, yes?

[tholdren]

Makes life easy when you have no standards, yes?
Enjoying high school?

[tonight...you]

Enjoying high school?
I did when I went. Good times. You like it, when you were there? Or are you still there?

[tholdren]

no i did not.

[tonight...you]

no i did not.
Yeah... I didn't think so. I'm sorry brother. Was it because you were ugly? Unaccepted?
I'm sure you'll say that you were smart, but that's not the case, is it?

[tholdren]

Yeah... I didn't think so. I'm sorry brother. Was it because you were ugly? Unaccepted?
I'm sure you'll say that you were smart, but that's not the case, is it?
I was ugly and not accepted.

[tonight...you]

I was ugly and not accepted.
No worries, I love you bro. I get you're angry. I won't mess with you.

[tholdren]

No worries, I love you bro. I get you're angry. I won't mess with you.
thanks

[tonight...you]

thanks
:bobo Now go back to being angry at random shit and saying things suck.
Have at it, baby.

[SAGirl]

She is, in fact, a good sport. (Assuming that "she" isn't some pot-bellied 50 year-old guy with 9 alts. :D) A good while back, she spouted some stuff about a couple of players, back when they were in college, and she hadn't hat time to Google for it - so I know she's more than a casual basketball fan. Sometimes it's hard to be totally objective about a player that you really just like. Not that you would know anything about that :rolleyes, but I'm guilty of it. She's got a lot invested in KA, and she takes some merciless shit over it. I hope he steps up so much that she gets an opportunity for a lot of "I told you so's". For his sake, her sake, and the team's.

From the very beginning, I said that I thought KA could become a solid contributor at the NBA level. Not a star, but a consistent part of the rotation. I still think he could. My biggest problem is that he's such a mixed bag, and I've gotten really down on tweeners. Technically not "tweener" for Kyle, but guys who don't fit well in any defined position. And he still looks too doughy to me, to play the 4 in the NBA. Have some pride, Kyle. Get yourself some steroids and hit the weight room. Maybe a prominent brow ridge will make your forehead look less funny.
I think it's most definitely obvious that he's not doping. I really like his game and that's pretty much it. This really grew bc of the nature of the forums and me getting riled up easily over ppl shitting on this kid while he was still getting it together... making it for quite a few laughs about it around here I am sure. By now, you can just take me as a good sport. I preach in the church but have stopped getting on guys assess about it, except Nono bc he still likes to get me riled up... and we have that thing going still, you know all that Jazz!
:toast

[skulls138]

like i give 2 shits if a bench player scores against another bench player in an 82 game season in meaningless minutes.Fan forums arent only about celebrating championships, its about predicting the future. We all know how the playoffs went down, no use harping on it, but I believe that KL is the real deal despite the playoffs and KA can be a good Spur if he gets a 3pt shot and the Spurs use him right. Im not seeing you making a call on these guys future, just telling us about the past.

Is this a LMA vs KL thing and you tire of the KL praise?

[Mikeanaro]

He is? Technically?
Yeah, so far gingershit is not gone, until he does sign with some other team we are 99,99% fucked.

[SnakeBoy]

like i give 2 shits if a bench player scores against another bench player in an 82 game season in meaningless minutes.

so you only care if people post about it?

[tholdren]

Fan forums arent only about celebrating championships, its about predicting the future. We all know how the playoffs went down, no use harping on it, but I believe that KL is the real deal despite the playoffs and KA can be a good Spur if he gets a 3pt shot and the Spurs use him right. Im not seeing you making a call on these guys future, just telling us about the past.

Is this a LMA vs KL thing and you tire of the KL praise?

Nope - I think LMA and KL are similar. They rely on jumpshooting for some reason - even if they are advantageous in size or proximity to basket - and in KL aspect athleticism. Its tiring to see them flounder in the early rounds of the playoffs and be heralded by ST for literally nothing. LMA has a history of this. KL is making a his legacy quite similar. The issue is - and I've said it before - KL grew more than I expected, is better than I expected, and can continue to grow. But many refuse to see his flaws and get bent out of shape then just revert to "2014"

[tholdren]

so you only care if people post about it?
the original post was a reply to SATranny's post about KA haters. I was commenting it was equally as dumb as her KA posts.

[kobyz]

I think it's most definitely obvious that he's not doping. I really like his game and that's pretty much it. This really grew bc of the nature of the forums and me getting riled up easily over ppl shitting on this kid while he was still getting it together... making it for quite a few laughs about it around here I am sure. By now, you can just take me as a good sport. I preach in the church but have stopped getting on guys assess about it, except Nono bc he still likes to get me riled up... and we have that thing going still, you know all that Jazz!
:toast

That play by Anderson in your sig is exemple why he's not an nba player, doesn't have the ability to go for a lay up in that supposed easy situation and instead having to go for an unconventional risky ally oop...

[SAGirl]

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[K...]

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Which of you idiots is this, thinking simminons has upside ?????

[tholdren]

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Which of you idiots is this, thinking simminons has upside ?????
anyone that has watched anderson play

[SAGirl]

Tholdren always so bitter

[bic50]

Tholdren always so bitter

Hates green, kawhi, Anderson, Murray, even durant but loves jimmer. I'm seeing a pattern here.

[tholdren]

Hates green, kawhi, Anderson, Murray, even durant but loves jimmer. I'm seeing a pattern here.
dont hate KL.

[tholdren]

Tholdren always so right

[SAGirl]

Summer does get a bit boring... Maybe a sign of things to come in the bench:
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[SAGirl]

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[Brian Windhorst]

:lol anyone thinking a 6'9 22 year old who can give you 20, 6, and 6 at any sub-NBA level has a lower ceiling than a turnover prone 26 year old slashing guard who has done nothing in the league.

[tholdren]

:lol anyone thinking a 6'9 22 year old who can give you 20, 6, and 6 at any sub-NBA level has a lower ceiling than a turnover prone 26 year old slashing guard who has done nothing in the league.

LOL at a grown man using emojis.

Kyle Anderson has 424pts in 1603 NBA minutes, shoots a three at 31%, and 44%FG
Simmons has 331 pts in 813 NBA minutes, shoots a three at 38% and 50%FG

PER in regular season is the same. Anderson is terrible in the playoffs.

[Mnky]

LOL at a grown man using emojis.

Kyle Anderson has 424pts in 1603 NBA minutes, shoots a three at 31%, and 44%FG
Simmons has 331 pts in 813 NBA minutes, shoots a three at 38% and 50%FG

PER in regular season is the same. Anderson is terrible in the playoffs.

Did not know Simmons was that much more effective in real games.

[TheMulletMan3000]

756624087452033024

Which of you idiots is this, thinking simminons has upside ?????

:lmao
1. Simmons who is 27
2. Upside

Pick one

[hooperflash]

SAGirl

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/12d8/xhahf1ya8eh1qdy6g.jpg

[SAGirl]

I would expect more of Kyle's shots next season to come from the 3 pt range.
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[SAGirl]

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[cutewizard]

Kyle rules!

[Kikoluna]

I hope Kyle is running some 200's and working on that leg turnover

[sasaint]

I would expect more of Kyle's shots next season to come from the 3 pt range.
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Kyle really does need to model his game after Diaw. Take the open three, absolutely. But he also needs to recognize and take advantage of mismatches (which I expect often), and draw more fouls. Boris' departure should increase his usage and facilitate his development in both areas. Unfortunately, Manu's return (and Pop's propensity to rely on geezers) may complicate the issue.

[SAGirl]

Kyle really does need to model his game after Diaw. Take the open three, absolutely. But he also needs to recognize and take advantage of mismatches (which I expect often), and draw more fouls. Boris' departure should increase his usage and facilitate his development in both areas. Unfortunately, Manu's return (and Pop's propensity to rely on geezers) may complicate the issue.

I have no idea again what Pop intends. I don't know if you saw this interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJO2Q_mFl0
In perspective it is kind of sad that he was sent to summer league to work on some specific stuff but not knowing specifically what Pop wants. Around the 1:45 min. he said players don't really know this early what role they will be asked to play during the season and from his own statements the game they showcase in summer league and what they do for the varsity team are very different games. It seems like at least the young players have to find out how the fit in around others and what roles Pop wants from them.

I think Kyle has been a real chameleon for the team, doing whatever the team needs at a given point to get himself time on the floor. He has definitely not been at liberty to play his game except when others are resting, injured, or the game was already decided either way. But considering our win record last season with him plugging holes in so many positions for injured players, the team expanding leads when the veterans sat, and winning most of the rest games, I think Kyle has earned some trust. Becky also raved about him being the best all around player in the summer and he is still just 22 years old. Even with all that, it's hard to say what Pop will do. Is he going to play mostly a 3 or a 4? I don't know.

It would be a shame to waste a year of his development when the team is likely to need him to play well in the postseason anyways and if he's not placed in positions to take shots of significance through the season, he won't reach the postseason with confidence, but it's hard to say. As I told you elsewhere, I place next season on Pop and they really should use Manu as support for the younger players at this point. At 39 he doesn't need to be carrying the bench and he can play off the ball very well with his shooting and perfect timing on his cuts. He played really well of Kawhi for example. For me, the entire thing, including Kyle's development is on Pop at this point.

[Kikoluna]

Kyle rules!
Clearly, as he dominated when he checked in against okc.

[dabom]

Clearly, as he dominated when he checked in against okc.

Top 20 poster. Keep it bro. :lol












:tu

[Kikoluna]

Top 20 poster. Keep it bro. :lol
Same to you, :bobo. Here we are trying to knock some sense to these "Kyle is developing" crowd












:tu

[tholdren]

kyle anderson pulled a KL in the playoffs and shat the bed

[SnakeBoy]

Is he going to play mostly a 3 or a 4? I don't know.


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[cutewizard]

point forward?

[SAGirl]

point forward?
Probably not until Manu retires, but they have been growing him to make plays with the ball and I would expect to see him in that role more but not entirely yet.

For all the criticism he gets for not being an ideal off bail player, that was not his game coming into the league. It's not how he won his team's games. It's a credit to him how much he's added to his skills and how much he's worked on his shot bc he wasn't a prolific shooter. He wasn't a post up player either and maybe he's not great at right now, but he has improved a lot and is still getting better.

Bottom line, after thinking about it, I think he will be all over in positions again like last season bc he was already doing that when he was an inexperienced player with success. As he matures, and gets more saavy, why stop there? I bet it will allow Pop to play him with a variety of guys and lineups. He's versatile enough now having added 3 point shooting to fit in anywhere.

We will probably just see some growth, I am guessing, but I have tempered expectations on a breakout season bc Pop and his process likes to take the long road. Just look at Kawhi and how long it took him to take ownership of his role. It was a gradual growth over several seasons and Pop taking it easy and gradual was a big part of slowing that down. I expect the same gradual growth for Kyle and Dijon when it comes down to it. They all were drafted into a mature vet team while being very young which afforded the Spurs the ability to grow them into roles and let them develop at their own pace.

[skulls138]

He seems ideal for post up play. I like how he shoots over people for short shots. Nothing fancy, just using his length.

[sasaint]

Probably not until Manu retires, but they have been growing him to make plays with the ball and I would expect to see him in that role more but not entirely yet.

For all the criticism he gets for not being an ideal off bail player, that was not his game coming into the league. It's not how he won his team's games. It's a credit to him how much he's added to his skills and how much he's worked on his shot bc he wasn't a prolific shooter. He wasn't a post up player either and maybe he's not great at right now, but he has improved a lot and is still getting better.

Bottom line, after thinking about it, I think he will be all over in positions again like last season bc he was already doing that when he was an inexperienced player with success. As he matures, and gets more saavy, why stop there? I bet it will allow Pop to play him with a variety of guys and lineups. He's versatile enough now having added 3 point shooting to fit in anywhere.

We will probably just see some growth, I am guessing, but I have tempered expectations on a breakout season bc Pop and his process likes to take the long road. Just look at Kawhi and how long it took him to take ownership of his role. It was a gradual growth over several seasons and Pop taking it easy and gradual was a big part of slowing that down. I expect the same gradual growth for Kyle and Dijon when it comes down to it. They all were drafted into a mature vet team while being very young which afforded the Spurs the ability to grow them into roles and let them develop at their own pace.

I vacillate. Sometimes I am concerned that Pop will relegate Kyle to the same role as last season. But then I remind myself that Boris will not be on the team this season, and Kyle will almost certainly absorb most of those minutes. Consequently he should be utilized more in the role Diaw filled.

As for Dijon - I really fear that Pop will bridle him as he has practically every young player he has ever coached except Tony. I do not believe the team can afford to spend that much time. I have already gone on the record about my concerns about the timing of the team's development and Kawhi's next contract negotiation.

[SAGirl]

I vacillate. Sometimes I am concerned that Pop will relegate Kyle to the same role as last season. But then I remind myself that Boris will not be on the team this season, and Kyle will almost certainly absorb most of those minutes. Consequently he should be utilized more in the role Diaw filled.

As for Dijon - I really fear that Pop will bridle him as he has practically every young player he has ever coached except Tony. I do not believe the team can afford to spend that much time. I have already gone on the record about my concerns about the timing of the team's development and Kawhi's next contract negotiation.

Reading that Zach Lowe article on Manu was bittersweet in the part where the article remarks that initially Manu was reduced to playing off Tim standing in a corner waiting to take a 3pt shot if he got the ball from Tim. Manu wasn't happy about that, he wanted to make plays with the ball. But Manu was 25, a mature player who had already played internationally and professionally, and he had confidence in himself and his game. He resisted Pop and eventually won out due to his tremendous talent. But we have to remember, he wasn't so much molded by Pop as already coming to Pop as he is and just getting better as he entered his prime. Pop himself had doubts he could coach him.

It was bittersweet to see Kyle playing off others parked in corners too, knowing that was not his game either. Here is a game where Pop had to go to Kyle. I expect his game without Diaw to look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jFkjsn0nw&index=13&list=PLGCM_dm2Wql0f-S-4xYTxdI9k0rNMbeXR

In the playoffs, I think Spurs parked Kyle in corners to their detriment, specially in the OKC series where the bench needed help from anybody. For better or worse, he wasn't involved in what the bench was doing. Other guys were taking shots. I agree with you that they will need him to attack mismatches and get in the paint and draw fouls, as well as take his open 3s. I do expect him to have a good individual season, but as you see I too vacillate bc how many seasons did we expect Kawhi to take that step and he didn't (who is a bigger talent and had more guaranteed playing time, role and the coach's vouching for his upside). Instead it was gradual increases with Kawhi and continued improvement, so that is kind of what I expect, but it could be different.

What helps Kyle and Dijon bottom line is that the team Kawhi joined when he was 20 was a different team, with the big 3 in the backend of their careers but still producing at a high level and good two elite years from Tony. The team Kyle joined in 2014 was stacked and looking to repeat and even last season's team was extremely deep with too many quality forwards, pushing him to play as a guard at times.

This particular team is not that stacked in forwards, or guards. There are old guys at both spots, and the Spurs need to push their young players along. Its just really hard to say with Pop and his process and whether he intends to play Lee as part of the rotation or not.

[dabom]

Fathead is not Manu talent for fuck's sake. :lol

[Chinook]

Anderson's not the play-maker Manu is -- and he never will be. That didn't come from experience. But he is one of the best passers among guys his height, and he has great vision. I don't think he'll ever "be Manu" in the sense that he'd be Mozart with the ball or even a legit primary ball-handler. But he can be an above-average scorer and a well-above average passer for an above-average scorer.

The passes Lowe points on in his most recent articles are ones that I think Anderson could make with regularity. But I don't think he'd be able to invent something like that. A post-Manu bench would be more prose than poetry, but it should still flow nicely.

[monkeypunk]

A post-Manu bench would be more prose than poetry, but it should still flow nicely.

Well said Chinook!

There will be still lots of lovely bench passing, just not the holy shit moments we love Manu for.

My hope is Manu takes Murray under his wing bc I think he's capable of the same derring do passing we've come to expect from the bench squad.

[K...]

The Manu spot up shooter story makes sense coming out of the four down era. I'd park Jordan in the corner too if I had prime Duncan.


Regarding Kyle, I feel like he's been told to focus on defense more than offense. While his offensive role is uncertain his defensive role is pretty clear. Parking him in the corner might of been to get him to focus on that weak defense he had. It would be pretty bad for him to be bench leader and not play average defense. He obviously made gains on the defensive end.

[SAGirl]

bleacher report: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2658520-predicting-nbas-all-breakout-team-for-2016-17-season/page/3
They do a review of players due to break out this season, not in the traditional sense necessarily of becoming MIP player candidates but, as they put it:

These rises can be difficult to define. They usually pertain to players 25 and under but are not specific to those barreling their way toward immediate stardom.

Ascensions of players such as Paul George (http://bleacherreport.com/paul-george) (2013), Jimmy Butler (2015) and C.J. McCollum (2016) resulted in Most Improved Player honors. That isn't the case for everyone; there are many more smaller-scale leaps that deserve recognition.

Some of these players, make no mistake, will get there. It may even happen next season. But our primary focus is singling out those who are about to make the transition from budding prospect or project to household name.
Think along the lines of Evan Fournier and Rodney Hood last season. They drastically improved their standing without inciting superstar expectations.



They then review backcourt and frontcourt reserves, as well as 6th MOY honors (they predict Crabbe), and different starters. They predict Norman Powell, Kyle's past UCLA teammate will break out as a rotation player in Toronto and had this to say about Anderson as a frontcourt reserve:

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2658520-predicting-nbas-all-breakout-team-for-2016-17-season/page/3)
Kyle Anderson, San Antonio Spurs

Tim Duncan's retirement, Boris Diaw's trade to the Utah Jazz and David Lee (http://bleacherreport.com/david-lee)'s relative inability to stop anyone at the rim all create an opportunity for Kyle Anderson to make regular-season noise for the first time in his career.
Many laugh at his lack of speed, but he's a cerebral player. He doesn't crowd ball-handlers and prefers to defend off reads. He has the size (6'9", 230 lbs) and ambition to body up in the post, and his passing off the bounce borrows from Diaw and Tony Parker.

Anderson just needs extended spin to prove himself outside the NBA D-League and NBA Summer League. And with the Spurs thin on frontcourt defensive versatility for the first time in a long time, he should get it next season.

[tholdren]

bleacher report: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2658520-predicting-nbas-all-breakout-team-for-2016-17-season/page/3
They do a review of players due to break out this season, not in the traditional sense necessarily of becoming MIP player candidates but, as they put it:


They then review backcourt and frontcourt reserves, as well as 6th MOY honors (they predict Crabbe), and different starters. They predict Norman Powell, Kyle's past UCLA teammate will break out as a rotation player in Toronto and had this to say about Anderson as a frontcourt reserve:

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2658520-predicting-nbas-all-breakout-team-for-2016-17-season/page/3)
wow. almost exactly what anyone who follows spurs thought - KA is older, and in combination with lack of depth will get more minutes. Put that trash on 48MOH

[SAGirl]

Anderson w game winner banked in 3!

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[cutewizard]

MR ANDERSON!!!!!



http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/8/23/12600668/watch-kyle-anderson-hit-the-game-winner-in-a-new-york-summer-league (http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/8/23/12600668/watch-kyle-anderson-hit-the-game-winner-in-a-new-york-summer-league)

[SAGirl]

It's actually a very nicely written article, about one of Kyle's best friend committing suicide during preseason of 2014 when Kyle was a rookie. I read it when it was still available in SA Express, but I am sorry that this one is behind a pay wall. He has had a charitable event for two years now to raise awareness between kids in his community about signs of depression in their young friends and develop life skills... with the attraction being the basketball camp.

As an awareness raising fact: suicide is the second highest cause of death for kids/young individuals ages 15-24.
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[sasaint]

It's actually a very nicely written article, about one of Kyle's best friend committing suicide during preseason of 2014 when Kyle was a rookie. I read it when it was still available in SA Express, but I am sorry that this one is behind a pay wall. He has had a charitable event for two years now to raise awareness between kids in his community about signs of depression in their young friends and develop life skills... with the attraction being the basketball camp.

As an awareness raising fact: suicide is the second highest cause of death for kids/young individuals ages 15-24.
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Wow. I had no idea. Thanks for sharing this. No telling how much additional weight the loss placed upon his shoulders that rookie season... But his response is just one more indication of the kind of leadership the Spurs will get from Kyle some day very soon. This season, in Boris' absence I more and more believe Kyle will really break out.

[dabom]

Wow. I had no idea. Thanks for sharing this. No telling how much additional weight the loss placed upon his shoulders that rookie season... But his response is just one more indication of the kind of leadership the Spurs will get from Kyle some day very soon. This season, in Boris' absence I more and more believe Kyle will really break out.

This ain't the time to be making Fathead jokes. :lol

[TrainOfThought5]

Wow. I had no idea. Thanks for sharing this. No telling how much additional weight the loss placed upon his shoulders that rookie season... But his response is just one more indication of the kind of leadership the Spurs will get from Kyle some day very soon. This season, in Boris' absence I more and more believe Kyle will really break out.

This may be the best executed "Fathead" pun of all time.

Salute.

[sasaint]

This may be the best executed "Fathead" pun of all time.

Salute.

Haha! It was pretty good, wasn't it? I really can't take credit, however, because (as much as I hate to admit it) it was unintentional. I like the guy.

[SAGirl]

Offseason gets really boring....
some highlights from Dyckman recently.
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[skulls138]

The question is did he call bank on the game winner? He mustve because if not he was way off.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This is the year the team needs him to step up and play 14-20 productive minutes a night. He's a smart player with a range of skills and I think he can do it, but we shall see.

[SAGirl]

This one is really, really hilarious.
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[cutewizard]

This could be his break-out season.

Could be............

.....all I am saying.

[cutewizard]

Kyle should watch the games of Paul Pressey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmO4HeqkoOU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmO4HeqkoOU

[skulls138]

This could be his break-out season.

Could be............

.....all I am saying.Hes the one who has the ability to make everything gel, and figure out how LMA and KL can coexist and prosper....if....

[dabom]

Worst offensive player on the team. Can't get a rebound 5 feet away from him and gets blocked by pg s on fast breaks. :lol

[dabom]

I hope he gets zero minutes in the playoffs.

[skulls138]

Worst offensive player on the team. Can't get a rebound 5 feet away from him and gets blocked by pg s on fast breaks. :lolYou only latch on to negative things and make them be the only thing. Hes a great rebounder for his size, youre just making the OKC series the only thing the Spurs have ever done. Of course he also needs a consistent 3 pt shot and he also needs a chance to be a point guard or point forward. Other than that hes tied with Manu as best passer, and thats saying something, and he can come up with a score when the team really needs one....other than the OKC series. This is his year to show us, we shall see.

Also...whats so funny all the time???

[dabom]

You only latch on to negative things and make them be the only thing. Hes a great rebounder for his size, youre just making the OKC series the only thing the Spurs have ever done. Of course he also needs a consistent 3 pt shot and he also needs a chance to be a point guard or point forward. Other than that hes tied with Manu as best passer, and thats saying something, and he can come up with a score when the team really needs one....other than the OKC series. This is his year to show us, we shall see.

Also...whats so funny all the time???

These shitty posts are funny brah. :lol

And no, he can't facilitate like Manu. It gets worse than Tony running the offense. No joke. :lol

He practices with the squad all the time. He would play pg not in the summer league if he actually had NBA playmaking skills.

[dabom]

This SOB said Fathead is on Par with Manu as best passer on the team. :lmao

[SAGirl]

You only latch on to negative things and make them be the only thing. Hes a great rebounder for his size, youre just making the OKC series the only thing the Spurs have ever done. Of course he also needs a consistent 3 pt shot and he also needs a chance to be a point guard or point forward. Other than that hes tied with Manu as best passer, and thats saying something, and he can come up with a score when the team really needs one....other than the OKC series. This is his year to show us, we shall see.

Also...whats so funny all the time???
Also he wasn't free to take shots in that series. They didn't run anything for him, didn't go to him at any point and were content to let other guys take shots. Not saying they should have gone to him when he was guarded by Durant but the Spurs screen for each other to get mismatches all the time and they were content to let him be parked in a corner somewhere while other guys were the man and failed, notably Mills, Manu and D west. Daboom is getting old scapegoating that series on Kyle when he didn't have the ball and he wasn't involved in what they were doing, maybe a huge mistake by Pop. And rebounds and boxing out was as much his responsibility as everyone else's in that group and probably were highest on the bigs who were outplayed and outmuscled.

He's probably indeed a key guy for the Spurs gelling in the future but he has been underutilized by Pop. Maybe to be humbled, maybe to improve defensively, maybe to improve his shooting. Pop had his reasons, but he didn't really take advantage of Kyle in the playoffs. It was other guys' show. It wasn't his role to make stuff happen, maybe to Pop's blame.

[ceperez]

Also he wasn't free to take shots in that series. They didn't run anything for him, didn't go to him at any point and were content to let other guys take shots. Not saying they should have gone to him when he was guarded by Durant but the Spurs screen for each other to get mismatches all the time and they were content to let him be parked in a corner somewhere while other guys were the man and failed, notably Mills, Manu and D west. Daboom is getting old scapegoating that series on Kyle when he didn't have the ball and he wasn't involved in what they were doing, maybe a huge mistake by Pop. And rebounds and boxing out was as much his responsibility as everyone else's in that group and probably were highest on the bigs who were outplayed and outmuscled.

He's probably indeed a key guy for the Spurs gelling in the future but he has been underutilized by Pop. Maybe to be humbled, maybe to improve defensively, maybe to improve his shooting. Pop had his reasons, but he didn't really take advantage of Kyle in the playoffs. It was other guys' show. It wasn't his role to make stuff happen, maybe to Pop's blame.

Anderson made vast improvements last season. I agree, he was not part of the offense with the exception that when the shot clock was running down that he had the green light to create offense.

I don't think though he was ready to be part of the offense last year.

This coming year he may have more responsibilities, but I just don't see him having enough talent to replace Parker or Ginobili in orchestrating the offense. He's a smart player, but I just don't see him having to developed championship level IQ with just 3 years in the league.

[TrainOfThought5]

This SOB said Fathead is on Par with Manu as best passer on the team. :lmao

Who is a better passer than fathead except for Manu? Serious question.

[SAGirl]

Anderson made vast improvements last season. I agree, he was not part of the offense with the exception that when the shot clock was running down that he had the green light to create offense.

I don't think though he was ready to be part of the offense last year.

This coming year he may have more responsibilities, but I just don't see him having enough talent to replace Parker or Ginobili in orchestrating the offense. He's a smart player, but I just don't see him having to developed championship level IQ with just 3 years in the league.
Well he really barely played with these teammates his rookie season and he improved all this past season as the season went along, eventually clearly beating out for his minutes every other player Pop brought up to compete with him.

In his best games of the season he was involved in what the team was doing, as a playmaker or screener,but he wasn't in that series. Maybe the other bench veterans were so out of their own games and overwhelmed that they also got out of their offense. Mills chucked jumpshots all series instead of running plays for others. It's a gripe of mine that Mills is not really a PG yet he had the ball a lot. For me it's on Pop. They didn't really involve him until game 6 when the game was out of hand anyways and Kyle ended up scoring a couple of difficult baskets over Roberson. We can't say for sure he wouldn't have helped when they didn't get him involved until the end. Hopefully that's not the case going forward bc Manu is in the very twilight.
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[skulls138]

Also he wasn't free to take shots in that series. They didn't run anything for him, didn't go to him at any point and were content to let other guys take shots. Not saying they should have gone to him when he was guarded by Durant but the Spurs screen for each other to get mismatches all the time and they were content to let him be parked in a corner somewhere while other guys were the man and failed, notably Mills, Manu and D west. Daboom is getting old scapegoating that series on Kyle when he didn't have the ball and he wasn't involved in what they were doing, maybe a huge mistake by Pop. And rebounds and boxing out was as much his responsibility as everyone else's in that group and probably were highest on the bigs who were outplayed and outmuscled.

He's probably indeed a key guy for the Spurs gelling in the future but he has been underutilized by Pop. Maybe to be humbled, maybe to improve defensively, maybe to improve his shooting. Pop had his reasons, but he didn't really take advantage of Kyle in the playoffs. It was other guys' show. It wasn't his role to make stuff happen, maybe to Pop's blame.No doubt. To blame KA on that series makes no sense. He should get his share of the blame but hes a rookie (close enough)...on an iconic team....guarding KD!!

As for Pops, I have to cut him some slack in that KAs got an unorthodox set of skills that need to be game planned around and there were too many vets whose last chance at a title were at stake that year to give KA a serious chance at succeeding. He needed to be a spot up shooter.

[SAGirl]

No doubt. To blame KA on that series makes no sense. He should get his share of the blame but hes a rookie (close enough)...on an iconic team....guarding KD!!

As for Pops, I have to cut him some slack in that KAs got an unorthodox set of skills that need to be game planned around and there were too many vets whose last chance at a title were at stake that year to give KA a serious chance at succeeding. He needed to be a spot up shooter.
Yet that wasn't the best choice in the end bc for 6 games in a row no one in the bench could get it going. They were all overmatched. But you are right they had not expected to need anything else from him than the role he played and they rather preferred to go down with the vets swinging than giving him a chance and that's fine, but that's really what they did.

[dabom]

Who is a better passer than fathead except for Manu? Serious question.

What's makes him the 2nd best passer? Obviously the offense is shit with him on the floor.

[dabom]

Well he really barely played with these teammates his rookie season and he improved all this past season as the season went along, eventually clearly beating out for his minutes every other player Pop brought up to compete with him.

In his best games of the season he was involved in what the team was doing, as a playmaker or screener,but he wasn't in that series. Maybe the other bench veterans were so out of their own games and overwhelmed that they also got out of their offense. Mills chucked jumpshots all series instead of running plays for others. It's a gripe of mine that Mills is not really a PG yet he had the ball a lot. For me it's on Pop. They didn't really involve him until game 6 when the game was out of hand anyways and Kyle ended up scoring a couple of difficult baskets over Roberson. We can't say for sure he wouldn't have helped when they didn't get him involved until the end. Hopefully that's not the case going forward bc Manu is in the very twilight.
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If you call 58%TS chucking now, What do you call 38%TS? OH snap!. :lmao


This is why people don't take you serious. :lol

In fact he should have shot more than his other bench teammates. :lmao

I guess fathead just shrinks in the playoffs.

[dabom]

No doubt. To blame KA on that series makes no sense. He should get his share of the blame but hes a rookie (close enough)...on an iconic team....guarding KD!!

As for Pops, I have to cut him some slack in that KAs got an unorthodox set of skills that need to be game planned around and there were too many vets whose last chance at a title were at stake that year to give KA a serious chance at succeeding. He needed to be a spot up shooter.

Why does the team got to game plan around a fucking nobody who gets blocked by PGs and can't get fucking rebounds 5 feet away from him? :lmao

[G-Dawgg]

I'm expecting him to contribute alot this year. The Spurs letting go of Diaw for basically nothing is a bit of an indicator that they are expecting some production from him also..

[SAGirl]

Basically nothing new:
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[SAGirl]

This young woman is brave and I swear it's not me. I want to see if Spurs do win 60+ this season. I will have to commend her Nostradamus powers! #Nostradamus. Now you all be nice don't be trolling this lady. :lol
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[SAGirl]

POP forcing Kyle into a corner 3 pt shooter one of many ways he was misused.

His college shooting chart
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Not very different from the spots he liked in the dleague and summer league. Corner 3 pt shooting is also not what the Spurs want to eventually cast him as I imagine.

Clearly it's been one game he has and another what he was asked to do last season. Most of his shots in college were a product of his own craftiness off the dribble too, not the product of anyone else's playmaking since he was one of his team's stars and the main ballhandler. It's been similar in the lower leagues (dleague and summer league). So, I am sure Pop and the coaching staff knows what his game is but they held him out to a corner spot to let him earn his role from the ground up.

[bklynspursfan]

This young woman is brave and I swear it's not me. I want to see if Spurs do win 60+ this season. I will have to commend her Nostradamus powers! #Nostradamus. Now you all be nice don't be trolling this lady. :lol
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If I saw this, I would've thought it was you without a doubt in my mind! :lol

Funny stuff

[GSH]

This young woman is brave and I swear it's not me. I want to see if Spurs do win 60+ this season. I will have to commend her Nostradamus powers! #Nostradamus. Now you all be nice don't be trolling this lady. :lol
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Whatever KA contributed, "leadership" isn't one of the things that comes to mind. Nothing against him - he was a second-year bench player. And giving him that much credit for the 67 wins is sort of a head-scratcher. You did right to swear that it isn't you.

[SAGirl]

Whatever KA contributed, "leadership" isn't one of the things that comes to mind. Nothing against him - he was a second-year bench player. And giving him that much credit for the 67 wins is sort of a head-scratcher. You did right to swear that it isn't you.
It was a funny post GSH I found it very funny myself.

[apalisoc_9]

POP forcing Kyle into a corner 3 pt shooter one of many ways he was misused.

His college shooting chart
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Not very different from the spots he liked in the dleague and summer league. Corner 3 pt shooting is also not what the Spurs want to eventually cast him as I imagine.

Clearly it's been one game he has and another what he was asked to do last season. Most of his shots in college were a product of his own craftiness off the dribble too, not the product of anyone else's playmaking since he was one of his team's stars and the main ballhandler. It's been similar in the lower leagues (dleague and summer league). So, I am sure Pop and the coaching staff knows what his game is but they held him out to a corner spot to let him earn his role from the ground up.

Pp didnt misue kyle. He's a role player bench guy..you can only have a limited of players to play somewhat free basketball and be the base of an offense.. The only option for him last year was to play the way he was played.

[SAGirl]

I
Pp didnt misue kyle. He's a role player bench guy..you can only have a limited of players to play somewhat free basketball and be the base of an offense.. The only option for him last year was to play the way he was played.ridiculous post from vanilla fan who is a troll an what I don't give a shit takes about. Ta-Da!!!

Just reduced it to your levels.

Actually could engage n some discussion about it but since you troll so much Apo this is what you get.

[apalisoc_9]

Iridiculous post from vanilla fan who is a troll an what I don't give a shit takes about. Ta-Da!!!

Just reduced it to your levels.

Actually could engage n some discussion about it but since you troll so much Apo this is what you get.

You're hurty because i told you Pop didnt misue him? :lol

That's trolling. :lol

Name me a role player that a team had to adjust to to accomodate his game? Name me one. Green struggled last year etc...thats what role players are for. I swear women..

[SAGirl]

:lmao
You're hurty because i told you Pop didnt misue him? :lol

That's trolling. :lol

Name me a role player that a team had to adjust to to accomodate his game? Name me one. Green struggled last year etc...thats what role players are for. I swear women..
Do you think I give 3 shits what you think? I am getting down to your level. You don't merit anything else.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao
Do you think I give 3 shits what you think? I am getting down to your level. You don't merit anything else.

Butthurt that I said Kyle Anderson is a role player level player :lmao.

Misued :lmao

Can't make a counter argument so goes the troll way :lmao

[tonight...you]

Butthurt that I said Kyle Anderson is a role player level player :lmao.

Misued :lmao

Can't make a counter argument so goes the troll way :lmao
Snore... Is the season coming up soon? I tire of this silliness.

[SAGirl]

Apo-troll will only keep going to lower and lower depths of himself and waste my time. That is all that can be said nicely of this troll. He thinks it bothers me but its only his attention crave that keeps this up even when not a single response from me is significant in any way to his troll-bait. Dude doesn't get it. Don't give a shit about him.

[SAGirl]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/9/15/12934378/kyle-anderson-and-jonathon-simmons-what-a-difference-a-year-makes

Good article compares Anderson and Simmons. It's really nothing new if you have watched and know the two players but the author does a good job of presenting the assessment based on real data and not eye test or baseless opinion.

Warning: it's not favorable to J.Simms.

[sasaint]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/9/15/12934378/kyle-anderson-and-jonathon-simmons-what-a-difference-a-year-makes

Good article compares Anderson and Simmons. It's really nothing new if you have watched and know the two players but the author does a good job of presenting the assessment based on real data and not eye test or baseless opinion.

Warning: it's not favorable to J.Simms.

Good article to provide statistical support for what many of us have seen with our eyes. It is a pity that Kyle was saddled with the nickname, "Slo-Mo". He is deliberate, like many successful NBA players. His nickname has prejudiced some fans and has made him an easy target.

[SAGirl]

Good article to provide statistical support for what many of us have seen with our eyes. It is a pity that Kyle was saddled with the nickname, "Slo-Mo". He is deliberate, like many successful NBA players. His nickname has prejudiced some fans and has made him an easy target.

He's stated he likes it bc it was a nickname given by real fans when he was 8 years old. From interviews I have seen he'd play in youth tournaments and the "broadcaster" with the microphone did not know his name and called him that. Fans loved him in those tournaments. It would surprise here with all the trolling but Kyle was a star growing up. am sure the slowmo nickname evokes reference to success and fun as a youngster, not the negative trolldom around here.

[SAGirl]

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After taking a step forward last season, will Anderson be able to take another step forward and become a consistent rotational piece for the Spurs? The answer to this question lies in both his ability to be a frontcourt playmaker off the bench and his fit into different small ball lineups the Spurs will use this season. While lineup stats aren’t perfect and can be noisy at times, they can help shed light on both of these areas for Anderson. The Spurs were lackluster when both Boris Diaw and Anderson were on the court. Lineups that included both players only outscored opponents by 2 points per 100 possessions. Not only that, but the Spurs were outrebounded by 1.4 rebounds and only tallied 1.8 more assists than their opponents per 100 possessions, a lower number than would be expected when two players known for their passing share the court. While it is impossible to know exactly why the 67-win Spurs looked more average when Diaw and Anderson played together, one plausible theory is that they were maybe too similar for their own good. Many pointed out the similarities between Diaw and Anderson when Anderson was drafted, and for good reason. While both are known for their court vision and crafty moves to get teammates or themselves baskets, it’s possible they overlapped too much.


The Spurs’ numbers when Anderson shared the court with Leonard, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. The team outscored opponents by 20.8 points per 100 possessions while playing both players. The Spurs were far more efficient than the other team as well, scoring 7.7 more field goals while attempting 1.5 less than opponents. The Spurs also committed almost 5 less turnovers per 100 possessions than the rival team when playing Anderson and Leonard. Obviously, some of these numbers can be contributed simply to the greatness of Leonard, last season’s runner-up MVP, but the numbers still lend themselves to a good deal of optimism for the success of lineups that use both Anderson and Leonard . While the pair only shared the court for 278 minutes, the numbers show that the Spurs can successfully play Leonard and Anderson together, which may lead to a new role for Anderson this season – a staple on the Spurs’ small-ball lineups.


The Spurs tested Anderson’s ability at power forward during the 2016 Summer League with much success, sending Anderson home after only several games in Las Vegas. While summer league competition is definitely a different level than that of the NBA, this success lends to the belief that the Spurs will experiment with Anderson at power forward more this season. While the Spurs most common small ball lineup will probably be Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Danny Green, Leonard, and LaMarcus Aldridge, Ginobili will be facing the most minute’s restriction of his career and will probably take off more games for rest than he has in the past. Due to this, a small ball group of Parker, Green, Leonard, Anderson, and Aldridge will probably be trotted out more than a few times throughout the season as needed. While the Spurs can switch out Mills for Parker and Gasol for Aldridge when necessary, Anderson’s success in these lineups can provide answers to the Spurs’ quest to countering other small ball lineups. Because of this, along with his increased importance in bench lineups, Anderson is poised to take another step forward this season. He will certainly have more responsibility and expectations than ever before. Due to some roster turnover in the frontcourt for the Spurs, Anderson has a chance to become a key piece in the Spurs’ rotation similar to Diaw before him, and this season may be his best chance to prove that.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..

[Chinook]

He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..

Indeed. Most of us non-haters have been saying this for like a year. If he sucks, the bench is likely not going to be good enough to make up for a sketchy starting five.

[sasaint]

He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..

A lot of commentators here just can't imagine a player with a skill set to fill each of those positions under shifting circumstances and game situations.

[SAGirl]

He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..
I got you Harlem!
You have been calling this for weeks already too. :toast

I saw even the reference to the PG spot, but I didn't want to go overboard about it bc I am already overboard most of the time lol :lol

I am just really happy Pop was so upfront about Kyle having reached a level where he needs to play. He's really become too good of a player to be out of the regular rotation and will get better too. He's not just gained confidence, but teammates have gotten confidence in him and that is key for chemistry. His playmaking and improved shooting is key, as well as the versatility and number of lineups and positions he can play.

[dabom]

Harlem never said Fathead was actually gonna produce in the playoffs you fuck faces. "He needs to play well" can be said about 5 other players. I could even suggest 3 better layers that can be X factors. Tony, Pau, and Manu. Fathead can be garbage and we still win depending on those guys. :lol

[SAGirl]

A lot of commentators here just can't imagine a player with a skill set to fill each of those positions under shifting circumstances and game situations.
Agreed. Everyone who still hates on him sees that as a bad thing. It's bad if the guy can't play any of them well, but that's not the case for Kyle who can play them well enough and maybe one of them at an elite level.

This past season was the foundation. He now may play more in the frontcourt in the RS bc that is where the team needs him due to their personnel, but at any point Pop can alter matchups, etc. and Kyle can adapt easily. There is a reason Pop emphasized defense too. It doesn't matter what he could do offensively if he couldn't guard on the other end, but the guy improved on defense b4 he was even aggressive shooting. Now that his shooting has improved and he's earned the coach's trust and his teammates confidence he will blossom. He has become a good overall player and there are not many of those. There are the defensive types like Dedmon, and the offensive types like Mills, but rarely you have a guy in your bench that will give you things on both ends and Kyle can do that.

[SAGirl]

Indeed. Most of us non-haters have been saying this for like a year. If he sucks, the bench is likely not going to be good enough to make up for a sketchy starting five.
I know we speculated he probably has to rise to be among the top 5 players in the team at least for the team to be good enough. I was conservative about that, bc I distrusted that Pop would trust him. To really rise to the levels he needs to rise he needs Pop to push him like he pushed Kawhi. (and for Kiwi fans, not comparing the players, just the situation) At one point Kawhi deferred a lot and he had to be pushed to climb ladders and Kyle needs to be pushed too, that is all I am saying. Players don't get better unless they are pushed at a young stage and it is precisely the young players that need pushing bc the old guys are who they are.

[dabom]

Where the fuck does fathead prove he has any offense? :lmao

[Kikoluna]

He is a disgrace. Blues my mind how he's on team. Terrible, awful player

[TheGreatYacht]

What does Kyle fan have against Simmons? Smh hating on any guy coming for fathead's spot in the rotation. I predict they'll start hating on Bertans soon

[SAGirl]

Here's Pop for the haters:
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Birthday boy highlights:
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[dabom]

As Brazil noted earlier. You must be garbage if pop still hasn't figured out where you're good at. :lol

He is gonna get minutes in the rs. I hope pop cut his minutes in the playoffs though. He's a fucking loser their.

[BillMc]

Here's Pop for the haters:
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Birthday boy highlights:
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:toast Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.

[ceperez]

I can't believe the amount of hate this 23 year old is receiving from Spurs fans.

He is not going to become as good as Leonard, however he's got unique talents that'll make him very effective in certain situations. I'm am not going to say that he's going to be all around brilliant. I'm saying he's going to be effective in areas where we can hide his weaknesses.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't really have an opinion on Anderson's overall game..I thought he was pretty solid for his role during the RS, particularly on defense, but was a disaster during the playoffs..

I don't know how to rate him, overall, though..

However, with the current construction of the Spurs, he will unquestionably need to become a productive player in the playoffs if the Spurs are going to do some damage..he was viewed as a potential playmaker when the Spurs drafted him, the passing skills are there..this team desperately needs a 3rd playmaker behind Parker and Ginobili, particularly with the bench unit..

Realistically, Anderson is the only player that can occasionally lighten the load for Ginobili as a playmaker off the bench..

[SAGirl]

:toast Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.
Now that Pop has spoken, it's on him to figure this out. When I told this to Nono... it was SAGirl same shit, yada yada.
Here it is Pop has spoken: "its on me to figure this out." :lol

I am guessing we will see Kyle all over the place again (bc that is Pop figuring things out lol). Hopefully he will find some lineups he likes and the X-lineups are for the playoffs.:toast

[sasaint]

:toast Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.

We won't have to wait long now! I expect we will see that lineup with some regularity. I think of it as combo guard play in a way. I could see Patty bring the ball into the front court - especially against pressure - and making the first pass to Kyle who would then really initiate the offense.

[ceperez]

We won't have to wait long now! I expect we will see that lineup with some regularity. I think of it as combo guard play in a way. I could see Patty bring the ball into the front court - especially against pressure - and making the first pass to Kyle who would then really initiate the offense.

Patty's problem at point is that he's not big enough to dish out a good entry pass.

Spurs need to get easy baskets in the paint and that comes from someone having enough athleticism and size to penetrate and disrupt the defense. Manu is too old to do this consistently. Anderson can do it only if he has a size mismatch. I would hate to have to rely on Simmons or Murray. Indeed a problem for the 2nd team.

[monkeypunk]

Patty's problem at point is that he's not big enough to dish out a good entry pass.

Spurs need to get easy baskets in the paint and that comes from someone having enough athleticism and size to penetrate and disrupt the defense. Manu is too old to do this consistently. Anderson can do it only if he has a size mismatch. I would hate to have to rely on Simmons or Murray. Indeed a problem for the 2nd team.

At least Murray seems to have a nose for getting close to the rim quickly. Hopefully Pop fights his gut and throws Murray into the fire to see what he can do. I can see him disrupting defenses left and right with his penetration and kick outs. The shooting will come if he is as dedicated to work as he says he is...

[SAGirl]

I don't really have an opinion on Anderson's overall game..I thought he was pretty solid for his role during the RS, particularly on defense, but was a disaster during the playoffs..

I don't know how to rate him, overall, though..

However, with the current construction of the Spurs, he will unquestionably need to become a productive player in the playoffs if the Spurs are going to do some damage..he was viewed as a potential playmaker when the Spurs drafted him, the passing skills are there..this team desperately needs a 3rd playmaker behind Parker and Ginobili, particularly with the bench unit..

Realistically, Anderson is the only player that can occasionally lighten the load for Ginobili as a playmaker off the bench..

Some guys ignore this bc they are in "vendingmachinehead" mode. Which right now is a description for themselves and their own hate, rather than for this Spur TBH.

I will put it succinctly. I think he could have done more, but Pop determines who gets the ball when, in what spots, and what shots they can take. Kyle had one weakness shooting all season: he wasn't a good 3 pt shooter. (Ppl can vendinemachinehead hate all they want and that is true, with respect to 3 pt shooting). He shot 50% on the midrange and had hot areas on the court and other shots he could have taken (in fact shot 2/4 in game 6), but for those critical games, Pop chose to just spot him up at the 3 and go to other guys. Basically ignored him. Durant also never left him open bc he didn't have to help off him, the other 4 guys on the court could be covered singlehandedly by their bigs. They all had an epic collapse and couldn't get anything going.

If anything, Pop picked his poison as far as I am concerned. When you play as a 5th option off the bench, you take what's there and not the shots you like and can make. Presumably others make you better as a roleplayer, but in Kyle's case they didn't. There were many times down the court, he didn't even touch the ball. He was lucky if he sat down having taken even 1-2 shots overall. He could have maybe done more, but he wasn't very involved so I can't condemn him any more than I would condemn others. Then you look around him and the other 4 dudes that were with him on the court were on an epic collapse and he was 22. What was he supposed to do, start a fisticuff fight on the court with mills or Dwest to get the ball? (Obviously I am getting cute and funny here hopefully making you smile). But you get the point. He wasn't a strong 3 pt shooter and you can condemn him for that when Pop knew it. There were other shots he could have taken at a good percentage, but they were not available for him bc they didn't call plays for him, and the rest was Pop and a bench collapse I guess.

Now 3 pt shooting was a big emphasis and he's improved. He's also young and getting better. At similar ages Danny was going icy on playoffs, Tony had the ocassional benching for poor shooting and Kawhi was missing key FT (maybe not the exact same age but within the range of a year and in terms of experience, similar or Kyle even less experience TBH). That is what we are talking about here. Now if the vendingmachinehead crew thinks a 22 year old (then) is doomed to not improve ever be my guest, I guess.

[jeebus]

I don't really have an opinion on Anderson's overall game..I thought he was pretty solid for his role during the RS, particularly on defense, but was a disaster during the playoffs..

I don't know how to rate him, overall, though..

However, with the current construction of the Spurs, he will unquestionably need to become a productive player in the playoffs if the Spurs are going to do some damage..he was viewed as a potential playmaker when the Spurs drafted him, the passing skills are there..this team desperately needs a 3rd playmaker behind Parker and Ginobili, particularly with the bench unit..

Realistically, Anderson is the only player that can occasionally lighten the load for Ginobili as a playmaker off the bench..

It doesn't help that every time he shoots or passes the ball, the gravitational pull of his head curves the path of the ball so it will repeatedly go out of bounds.

[Hoops Czar]

Here's Pop for the haters:
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Birthday boy highlights:
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This is turning into another George Lucas, Lloyd Daniels situation.

[tonight...you]

This is turning into another George Lucas, Lloyd Daniels situation.
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Sweetpea!

[SAGirl]

This is turning into another George Lucas, Lloyd Daniels situation.
I don't know them, but knowing you I think I don't want to know.

[tonight...you]

I don't know them, but knowing you I think I don't want to know.
Lucas was the coach of the Spurs before that goober that Pop fired and took over. He had a fascination for a fringe player Lloyd Daniels, who had a unique skillset, much like Kyle, and just HAD to find minutes for him.

"Sweetpea" Daniels didn't last very long on the team, in the end. Long story short...

[SAGirl]

Lucas was the coach of the Spurs before that goober that Pop fired and took over. He had a fascination for a fringe player Lloyd Daniels, who had a unique skillset, much like Kyle, and just HAD to find minutes for him.

"Sweetpea" Daniels didn't last very long on the team, in the end. Long story short...
Hah knew Czar was negative. Dude always is.
If that is Kyle's fate, the Spurs are doomed. Believe you me, unfortunately they will be worse than last season's crappy playoff bench if Pop doesn't figure Kyle out.

[bklynspursfan]

Hah knew Czar was negative. Dude always is.
If that is Kyle's fate, the Spurs are doomed. Believe you me, unfortunately they will be worse than last season's crappy playoff bench if Pop doesn't figure Kyle out.

KA has a unique opportunity and skillset to help the team, no doubt about it. But I also think it's a bit of a stretch to say the Spurs are doomed if Pop doesn't figure him out. That's not a knock at him at all either, I just think there's sort of an in between in there. The Spurs have had guys were talented go either due to FA or via trade, but they usually do fine and figure it out. They don't always make the right move every time, but more times than not they do.

Again, not a knock on your guy, and I know you get a lot of trolls on here, but I'm just basing off the the last 20 years or so how this team has operated. :)

[SAGirl]

KA has a unique opportunity and skillset to help the team, no doubt about it. But I also think it's a bit of a stretch to say the Spurs are doomed if Pop doesn't figure him out. That's not a knock at him at all either, I just think there's sort of an in between in there. The Spurs have had guys were talented go either due to FA or via trade, but they usually do fine and figure it out. They don't always make the right move every time, but more times than not they do.

Again, not a knock on your guy, and I know you get a lot of trolls on here, but I'm just basing off the the last 20 years or so how this team has operated. :)
Thanks for sharing and I appreciate it.
But looking at the situation and obviously my opinion... (bc now everyone has to specify everything we share are our opinions bc that's not obvious apparently lol) Kyle raises the team's ceiling considerably. That is why he's getting minutes. This is not a charity act. Coach is not stating that it's obvious that they need to play him more out of the goodness of his heart, which is what ppl assume. He's reached a level where he makes the team better if he plays than if he doesn't. PPl can hate on that and dislike it, and prognosticate they aren't going anywhere with Kyle that way, but it is what it is.

[SAGirl]

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[tonight...you]

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Go get 'em boy. I hope you rip the doors off. That means the team I'm emotionally invested in succeeds. You don't? GTFO and I mean quick.

[SAGirl]

Go get 'em boy. I hope you rip the doors off. That means the team I'm emotionally invested in succeeds. You don't? GTFO and I mean quick.
And the same can be said of a couple of contract year boys too. lol It's only surprising that he generates this division, when it's on a few guys realistically too. Hopefully the x-factor swings on the positive and not the other way lol

[tonight...you]

And the same can be said of a couple of contract year boys too. lol It's only surprising that he generates this division, when it's on a few guys realistically too. Hopefully the x-factor swings on the positive and not the other way lol
He warrants more attention than Simmons, or Mills to me. He actually could be somebody. He could be a contendah. Or he could be Lloyd Daniels.
I hope he brings the goods. If not, cut the cord. Simmons too. Mills maybe.

[SAGirl]

He warrants more attention than Simmons, or Mills to me. He actually could be somebody. He could be a contendah. Or he could be Lloyd Daniels.
I hope he brings the goods. If not, cut the cord. Simmons too. Mills maybe.
got you!
boy you are succint lol :tu

[bklynspursfan]

Thanks for sharing and I appreciate it.
But looking at the situation and obviously my opinion... (bc now everyone has to specify everything we share are our opinions bc that's not obvious apparently lol) Kyle raises the team's ceiling considerably. That is why he's getting minutes. This is not a charity act. Coach is not stating that it's obvious that they need to play him more out of the goodness of his heart, which is what ppl assume. He's reached a level where he makes the team better if he plays than if he doesn't. PPl can hate on that and dislike it, and prognosticate they aren't going anywhere with Kyle that way, but it is what it is.

Of course, Pop recognizes his talents and need to play him more. He adds a unique diversity. But like, if KA has an injury and misses 60 games, are the Spurs gonna miss the playoffs and crash? When you say they're doomed if he doesn't play/get figored out thats how I took it lol

I think the collective play of our 2nd unit will be huge to our success, but KA, Mills, Lee etc... will all need to perform to make this work. I don't see 1 guy on the bench being like Manu was for many years where the 2nd unit relied on him, yet at least. I think the biggest thing will be 3 point shooting that most of these guys need to be efficient/respectable.

[SAGirl]

Of course, Pop recognizes his talents and need to play him more. He adds a unique diversity. But like, if KA has an injury and misses 60 games, are the Spurs gonna miss the playoffs and crash? When you say they're doomed if he doesn't play/get figored out thats how I took it lol

I think the collective play of our 2nd unit will be huge to our success, but KA, Mills, Lee etc... will all need to perform to make this work. I don't see 1 guy on the bench being like Manu was for many years where the 2nd unit relied on him, yet at least. I think the biggest thing will be 3 point shooting that most of these guys need to be efficient/respectable.
You have a good point definitely bc the Spurs system is designed for the next man up. Technically only absences by Kawhi and LMA place the team in peril and I think I exaggerated.

But, I am hopeful he will be better than last season based on confidence from teammates and coach, being pushed, and his shooting improvements. He's young and one of the few guys I really expect to be better (J.Simms might be better too). That's why I think he raises the bench's ceiling considerably. It's possible quite honestly that he makes a leap his 3rd season and starts being noticeably better than other options the Spurs have in their bench and a guy they could go often to make things happen.

But again, you have a good point. Only absences from LMA and Kawhi should be noticeable. Usually the rest of the teammates can pick up what's lacking. I don't think Manu or Mills are irreplaceable either, but part of the reason Manu's production is no longer as key is Anderson's emergence as a playmaker and creator when Manu isn't playing.

[bklynspursfan]

You have a good point definitely bc the Spurs system is designed for the next man up. Technically only absences by Kawhi and LMA place the team in peril and I think I exaggerated.

But, I am hopeful he will be better than last season based on confidence from teammates and coach, being pushed, and his shooting improvements. He's young and one of the few guys I really expect to be better (J.Simms might be better too). That's why I think he raises the bench's ceiling considerably. It's possible quite honestly that he makes a leap his 3rd season and starts being noticeably better than other options the Spurs have in their bench and a guy they could go often to make things happen.

But again, you have a good point. Only absences from LMA and Kawhi should be noticeable. Usually the rest of the teammates can pick up what's lacking. I don't think Manu or Mills are irreplaceable either, but part of the reason Manu's production is no longer as key is Anderson's emergence as a playmaker and creator when Manu isn't playing.

Agreed... Patty's 3 point shooting will need to be where it was a couple years ago, that's def needed.. If he can get to that level his contract becomes a bargain.

Biggest things I'm hoping to see from KA is more confidence/quicker decisions with the ball, and improved 3 point shooting. He'll have the ball more, but there will be times when he'll have to be ready to catch/shoot too, depending on the unit he is playing with.

Manu will be Manu. Every now and again he'll have some flash back games. His per 36 numbers were quite good last year, and he shot the 3 ball at a near 40% clip. I'm just looking for him to hopefully continue to hit the 3 ball, and every now and again perform some Manu magic. He and KA will likely handle the rock the most I assume.

[GSH]

If the Spurs come to grips with the fact that Kyle isn't a point-forward and never will be, it will help. For all the shit we give KA, he became a decent 3P shooter. He only needed a bit of improvement to be what I would consider a good 3P shooter. That would be another step in the right direction.

The real drop dead issue for me is whether he has been hitting the weights. If he doesn't get stronger, he will always be a Gardner. If he does, he could be an adequate stretch 4. No matter what good qualities he has, he's not a point-anything. He was rebounding well by the end of last season. But if he's going to be inside where the rebounding happens, he's going to have to be able to mix it up with guys his height.

He needs to go to the same "nutritionist" as Draymond and put on about 20 pounds of muscle.

[SAGirl]

Agreed... Patty's 3 point shooting will need to be where it was a couple years ago, that's def needed.. If he can get to that level his contract becomes a bargain.

Biggest things I'm hoping to see from KA is more confidence/quicker decisions with the ball, and improved 3 point shooting. He'll have the ball more, but there will be times when he'll have to be ready to catch/shoot too, depending on the unit he is playing with.

Manu will be Manu. Every now and again he'll have some flash back games. His per 36 numbers were quite good last year, and he shot the 3 ball at a near 40% clip. I'm just looking for him to hopefully continue to hit the 3 ball, and every now and again perform some Manu magic. He and KA will likely handle the rock the most I assume.
All good points. :tu

Patty is actually kind of crucial bc of the lack of backcourt depth. I think Murray is realistically a year away from helping and maybe even 2. I saw that video from LMA mentioning how some of the guys are coming in fresh from college and were used to taking tough shots and how that gets away from Pop's system. Although LMA doesn't mention anyone by name, immediately I thought of Murray. He's the one guy that was doing that consistently in summer league. He's going to have a lot of growing pains. He's not nearly good enough to be chucking as he's prone to do and has to learn to defer and look for shots within the offense. I actually think Spurs are picking Laprovittola or Arci, they need a guard. I can't see them picking Garino when they need guard depth this badly, and that is not a knock on Garino. Garino's agent already outed out that he's dleague bound anyways, so I am looking more at the guards.

[SAGirl]

If the Spurs come to grips with the fact that Kyle isn't a point-forward and never will be, it will help. For all the shit we give KA, he became a decent 3P shooter. He only needed a bit of improvement to be what I would consider a good 3P shooter. That would be another step in the right direction.

The real drop dead issue for me is whether he has been hitting the weights. If he doesn't get stronger, he will always be a Gardner. If he does, he could be an adequate stretch 4. No matter what good qualities he has, he's not a point-anything. He was rebounding well by the end of last season. But if he's going to be inside where the rebounding happens, he's going to have to be able to mix it up with guys his height.

He needs to go to the same "nutritionist" as Draymond and put on about 20 pounds of muscle.
You will have to take that up with Coach. Pop was saying he could run the point, and wasn't joking. Anyways, I respect your take. Takes time to put on muscle naturally, but seeing pictures from his rookie season, he does look heavier, problem is that is not nearly heavy enough.

[SAGirl]

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[SAGirl]

Player to Watch

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Anderson has two pairs of shoes to fill as he enters his third year. The Spurs will depend on him to supplant much of Diaw's end-to-end versatility while also expecting him to treat any defensive warts created by the mass exodus of frontcourt contributors.
Improving his jumper is now a must. Anderson has to be an average shooter for San Antonio to capitalize on his minutes at power forward. His three-point rate jumped by 5.1 points and more of his looks came outside 10 feet (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html#shooting::none) as a sophomore.
Anderson's defensive adaptability will take care of the rest. His length allows him to shoot gaps on spot-up snipers, and he was solid (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*SAS) as a stand-in rim protector. He also saved more points than Aldridge, per NBAMath.com (http://nbamath.com/nba-individual-seasons/), despite logging 1,016 fewer minutes and guarding mostly wings.
San Antonio needs another body that can shimmy between multiple assignments and take over a variety of responsibilities on offense and defense. And only one other qualified non-center (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=2&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=1500&c2stat=drb_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=19.65&c3stat=stl_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=2.35&c4stat=ast_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=12.95&c6mult=1.0&order_by=blk_pct) has ever matched Anderson's defensive rebounding (19.4), assist (13), steal (2.4) and block percentages (1.7) through his sophomore season: Charles Barkley. :wow
It's time for the Spurs to take off the training wheels.

Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662467-san-antonio-spurs-complete-2016-17-season-preview

[HarlemHeat37]

His defense isn't the problem, he was one of the best defenders on the team during last year's RS..it's the offense, which was expected, as his niche is going to be difficult to develop(the "mismatch" type that is generally hit or miss in the NBA)..

[SAGirl]

Kyle gathering a lot of momentum. I hope the guy steps up this season. Now there is too much hype about him lol
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[gambit1990]

Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662467-san-antonio-spurs-complete-2016-17-season-preview
some people never learn :lol

[ceperez]

Kyle gathering a lot of momentum. I hope the guy steps up this season. Now there is too much hype about him lol
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Nice... you wrote it??

[SAGirl]

Nice... you wrote it??
No.. I don't consider that I have enough knowledge to write blogs about basketball TBH. I am not the only irrational Anderson fan it looks like. The guy who wrote is is actually a Houston Rockets fan.

I saw a compilation of highlights from Anderson once by a Bucks fan, and he's quite the slowmo fan himself. I think it's just a few trolls at this point that like to hate in this forum. Anderson is popular outside of this forum.

[dabom]

I read it. Didn't really contain shit. Not directed at SAGirl. Keep doing what you do. :tu

[SAGirl]

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[SAGirl]

some people never learn :lol
I don't see you writing anything worth reading, you can piss off, you know whenever.

[gambit1990]

I don't see you writing anything worth reading, you can piss off, you know whenever.
everything i write is worth reading.

i don't ever see anyone citing br but you :lol

[SAGirl]

everything i write is worth reading.

i don't ever see anyone citing br but you :lol
Ppl cite all sorts of trash like Zach Lowe. ... and the only one who wants to make a fuss about content is you lol

[Kikoluna]

Kyle is worthless. Just watch okc series. Deer in headlights.

[gambit1990]

Ppl cite all sorts of trash like Zach Lowe. ... and the only one who wants to make a fuss about content is you lol
:lmao

you defend bleacher report by calling zach lowe trash :lmao

zach lowe is easily one of the best basketball writers around. you calling him trash while posting br articles :lol who are you?

[ceperez]

Honestly, he doesn't deserve the kind of hate he gets here in ST.

The article is pretty good in that it explains what Anderson is doing when he drives to the hoop. It is a very interesting and unique game.

[SAGirl]

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J.simms had a relatively good game here, but the article includes interviews from Pop and Anderson concerning the bench and the pair's development.

[waisman]

hope to be passer like manu .
hope to be small lineup PF .

[DeRozan m8]

Can we burn this thing down yet?

[SAGirl]

Although this is a highlight of Lapro's passing, I liked it too much to get it lost somewhere, as I don't know if Lapro even has a church. here it is:

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[Dex]

Paging SAGirl...

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-exercise-option-kyle-anderson

SPURS EXERCISE OPTION ON KYLE ANDERSON
Posted: Oct 21, 2016

SAN ANTONIO (Oct. 21, 2016) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have exercised their fourth-year option on forward Kyle Anderson for the 2017-18 season.

Anderson is entering his third season with the Spurs after being selected by San Antonio in the first round of the 2014 NBA Draft (30th overall). Last season, Anderson averaged 4.5 points, 3.1 rebounds and 1.6 assists in 16.0 minutes over 78 games, including 11 starts. In 111 career games with the Silver and Black, the former UCLA Bruin is averaging 3.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 14.4 minutes.

[SAGirl]

Paging SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524)...

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-exercise-option-kyle-anderson

SPURS EXERCISE OPTION ON KYLE ANDERSON
Posted: Oct 21, 2016

SAN ANTONIO (Oct. 21, 2016) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have exercised their fourth-year option on forward Kyle Anderson for the 2017-18 season.

Anderson is entering his third season with the Spurs after being selected by San Antonio in the first round of the 2014 NBA Draft (30th overall). Last season, Anderson averaged 4.5 points, 3.1 rebounds and 1.6 assists in 16.0 minutes over 78 games, including 11 starts. In 111 career games with the Silver and Black, the former UCLA Bruin is averaging 3.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 14.4 minutes.

Woot woot!!!

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Thanks for sharing.

[DeRozan m8]

What in the actual f*ck do the Spurs see in this abomination?

F*ck me f*cking dead.

No better than Jeff Ayres at this point, dudes shown absolutely nothing, even Simmons has shown way more.

[DeRozan m8]

Honestly, he doesn't deserve the kind of hate he gets here in ST.


F*ck you

[SAGirl]

Community Interest Story:
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[Ice009]

Paging SAGirl...

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-exercise-option-kyle-anderson

SPURS EXERCISE OPTION ON KYLE ANDERSON
Posted: Oct 21, 2016

SAN ANTONIO (Oct. 21, 2016) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have exercised their fourth-year option on forward Kyle Anderson for the 2017-18 season.

Anderson is entering his third season with the Spurs after being selected by San Antonio in the first round of the 2014 NBA Draft (30th overall). Last season, Anderson averaged 4.5 points, 3.1 rebounds and 1.6 assists in 16.0 minutes over 78 games, including 11 starts. In 111 career games with the Silver and Black, the former UCLA Bruin is averaging 3.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 14.4 minutes.

What was the cut off date for exercising his 4th year option?

[SAGirl]

What was the cut off date for exercising his 4th year option?

October 31...

[Chinook]

Looks like the Anti-Kyle threads have taken a break recently. I'm liking what I'm seeing from him right now. I think there are going to be quite a few times where guys he's guarding are going to underestimate him and get forced into turnovers or blocked shots. And on offense, he looks good when trying to play his actual game instead of deferring to others. If Manu is indeed going to start at the two-guard, it will be Kyle's bench to run. I'd rather see Forbes and Bertans rather than Simmons and Lee run with him, but baby steps for the BG2.0

[TrainOfThought5]

Looks like the Anti-Kyle threads have taken a break recently. I'm liking what I'm seeing from him right now. I think there are going to be quite a few times where guys he's guarding are going to underestimate him and get forced into turnovers or blocked shots. And on offense, he looks good when trying to play his actual game instead of deferring to others. If Manu is indeed going to start at the two-guard, it will be Kyle's bench to run. I'd rather see Forbes and Bertans rather than Simmons and Lee run with him, but baby steps for the BG2.0

Simmons is going to be a surprise waive/trade so im not worried about it.

[SAGirl]

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[SAGirl]

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The real Hi-Lo pass.

[TrainOfThought5]

We desperately need Kyle to turn the corner

[waisman]

he good 3p in SL !
why now ...

[SAGirl]

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Well guys at Liberty Ballers are dealing with their own forwards/guards/points whatever... and surprisingly Pop and all of his experiments with Kyle have inspired them.

This one might be read with a bit of a sarcastic and funny tone bc the 76ers situation is very unorthodox, but hey Kyle is getting some admiration from fans of others teams, so I thought I'd share..

(you slowmo trolls... he's in the team so deal with it ok? grow up)

[SAGirl]

Well I am growing quite reluctant to post about Anderson since there is so much out there already, but in the spirit of keeping link dumps here:
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The only quote that caught my eye:

“He blends with everybody well,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said before tipoff. “He understands where the ball’s got to go and he helps it get there. He’s got a good basketball head on him. He’s never going to score a whole lot, but he plays a good basketball game.”

[Amuseddaysleeper]

THERE IS NO SHADE IN THE SHADOW OF THE CROSS

[gambit1990]

wrong thread.

[BD24]

Fuck this guy. Jesus

[Chinook]

Nah, fuck all these people who seem to be on radio delay. Anderson is once again leading the team in rebounding. He took his two corner-threes and made one of them. He has an assist and a steal and he's leading the team in plus-minus. That people are hating on him for this game is ridiculous.

[Mnky]

Nah, fuck all these people who seem to be on radio delay. Anderson is once again leading the team in rebounding. He took his two corner-threes and made one of them. He has an assist and a steal and he's leading the team in plus-minus. That people are hating on him for this game is ridiculous.

It probably has to do with his bad plays. Just a hunch.

[SAGirl]

Nah, fuck all these people who seem to be on radio delay. Anderson is once again leading the team in rebounding. He took his two corner-threes and made one of them. He has an assist and a steal and he's leading the team in plus-minus. That people are hating on him for this game is ridiculous.Though the shooting has been off this game, its like you said probably needed a game to get rid of that fear of shooting. The hesitation was worse.

[BD24]

Jesus, whatever unit this fuck plays with he is always bringing them down.

[jermaine]

Kyle needs to run point to be effective the most! He can ball, but without the ball, he's not shit.

[Silver&Black]

http://solarcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/church-on-fire-2.jpg

[ElNono]

http://solarcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/church-on-fire-2.jpg

Mi negro

[RD2191]

Burn this mutha fucka down

[dabom]

http://solarcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/church-on-fire-2.jpg

:lol

[tholdren]

Nah, fuck all these people who seem to be on radio delay. Anderson is once again leading the team in rebounding. He took his two corner-threes and made one of them. He has an assist and a steal and he's leading the team in plus-minus. That people are hating on him for this game is ridiculous.
getting dumber all the time I see

[313]

http://solarcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/church-on-fire-2.jpg

[Brazil]

bump...

just because you know

:lmao

[dabom]

bump...

just because you know

:lmao

Kinda dead in here. :lol

[GSH]

Puny god. Doesn't deserve his own church.

http://i.imgur.com/yie80N1.gif

[Mnky]

http://solarcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/church-on-fire-2.jpg

:lol

[SAGirl]

Reluctance to shoot the 3 is going to kill his career. It's sad. He's signed for another season. It might not be in his mind, but if I were him I'd ask to go back down to the dleague to get confidence shooting back.

The game he's played in the dleague and SL involved a lot more activity with the ball and less 3 pt shooting (save this past summer). He wasn't a 3 pt shooter earlier in his young career but it's what he needs. He just doesn't have a shooter's mentality bc it's not a matter of inability to shoot. I have been saying he needs to go back down to work on that confidence back. It's really what is killing his game.

[HarlemHeat37]

I actually feel a little bad for him, tbh..he just doesn't have a role on this team..

Some players are better suited beginning their career on a shitty team that will allow then to run some offense and find their niche in the league.. I'm starting to believe that Anderson is one of them..he needs to go to a team like the Pelicans or Kings IMO..

[spurraider21]

he's a poor man's evan turner, which is really sad

[SAGirl]

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[ceperez]

Reluctance to shoot the 3 is going to kill his career. It's sad. He's signed for another season. It might not be in his mind, but if I were him I'd ask to go back down to the dleague to get confidence shooting back.

The game he's played in the dleague and SL involved a lot more activity with the ball and less 3 pt shooting (save this past summer). He wasn't a 3 pt shooter earlier in his young career but it's what he needs. He just doesn't have a shooter's mentality bc it's not a matter of inability to shoot. I have been saying he needs to go back down to work on that confidence back. It's really what is killing his game.

Yeah, I've been saying this since last season. No 3pt shot, no reason to be on the court.

[skulls138]

Whats so hard about shooting the ball? Your guaranteed to lose your spot if you dont try. Its surprising because for a guy that seems so team oriented its very un-team to not take the shot from the good passing it took to get the open look.

[SAGirl]

Whats so hard about shooting the ball? Your guaranteed to lose your spot if you dont try. Its surprising because for a guy that seems so team oriented its very un-team to not take the shot from the good passing it took to get the open look.

This is just a wild guess from me, but it's a confidence thing. He wasn't a good 3 pt. shooter when he was young and he had a very, very slow shot to boot, which probably made him flinch. Some guys are just not shooters, it's just how it is.

He has now developed a better shot, with a very high release and although not quick, it's quicker than it used to be... and he's been efficient shooting it through the summer, and those he has taken have gone in at a better than 50%, unsustainable with more attempts but he's got a good enough shot right now IMO that he needs to be launching more often. I don't know how else to explain it, but it is going to require some rewiring in his mentality to want to shoot more. It's like a mental block IMO, I can't explain it any other way.

I have seen interviews from shooters that state they always want to shoot when they catch the ball, every time. They have an almost irrational confidence every shot is going to go in. Kyle doesn't have it and bc he wasn't a shooter b4, how is he going to develop it unless he's out there taking shots? That is why I said, I'd send him to the dleague to just play as the designated sniper and force him to rewire that brain a little bit. Doesn't matter if he's not hitting, the real shooters always believe the next shot is going in...

[skulls138]

I have no doubt its a confidence thing and who am I to judge sitting behind my computer but when youre in the NBA and your b-ball career, something he is made to do IMO, is going bye bye, whats there to lose? Again easy to say.

And youre right that he doesnt have that kind of scoring mentality like a JR Smith for instance where its about having a quick release, not upfake and drive, where KAs at his best. But then again, hes not a shooting guard whatsoever, its literally about the last position he should play, that or center. Still though, even if he gets his ideal position, he still needs a shot so might as well start now.

Maybe he literally is waiting out Manu.

[SAGirl]

Agreed.

I think Pop hasn't been taking advantage of him the best but that is beside the point. No matter what spot he's playing, or even if he's traded, he's going to have to be shooting more.

[tholdren]

Agreed.

I think Pop hasn't been taking advantage of him the best but that is beside the point. No matter what spot he's playing, or even if he's traded, he's going to have to be shooting more.
I thought he was a "playmaker" ? ....

[dabom]

I thought he was a "playmaker" ? ....

Running real slow into defenders. :lol

[tholdren]

Running real slow into defenders. :lol
pull up the KA draft thread. There are comments like, "he's a lottery talent" and comparisons with Magic Johnson. I took heat for explaining to you all what would happen...

[dabom]

pull up the KA draft thread. There are comments like, "he's a lottery talent" and comparisons with Magic Johnson. I took heat for explaining to you all what would happen...

I've never "dapped" his signing. It was a "meh" feeling. I've been part of the Fatheadsuxrenaissance since day one. :tu

[tholdren]

I've never "dapped" his signing. It was a "meh" feeling. I've been part of the Fatheadsuxrenaissance since day one. :tu
you me and trump against the world.

[dabom]

you me and trump against the world.

:lol

[spursistan]

Damn the Game Grades thread not out yet? is SAG writing a dissertation on Kyle 11/6/4 night?:lol

[apalisoc_9]

To be fair, Looks like Kyle is playing more comfortable now with a significantly lesser role than he started with this season.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Timberwolves have a bottom of the barrel bench. He still shouldn't get minutes against NBA players

[r0drig0lac]

He really had a good game

[Mr. Body]

People need to realize Anderson has a place in this league. He's not there quite yet, but already he's dispensed with his major problem -- he's actually a good defender now. Amazingly he's learned how to use his length to counteract his slowness. The rest will take a bit more work, but this guy is an NBA player. You can go cry yourselves to sleep.

[TrainOfThought5]

People need to realize Anderson has a place in this league. He's not there quite yet, but already he's dispensed with his major problem -- he's actually a good defender now. Amazingly he's learned how to use his length to counteract his slowness. The rest will take a bit more work, but this guy is an NBA player. You can go cry yourselves to sleep.

If he would just work on his body and become a STEP faster he would be a leader off the bench. If he was TWO steps faster he would be a solid starter and if he was three steps faster he would be a quasi-star. Im FLUMMOXED by his lack of physical development since he joined the spurs. It doesnt make any sense. He's just as slow now as he was in college.

[r0drig0lac]

He needs to model his game as Bodiroga (same size and speed, unfortunately does not have the same basketball QI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WD2zwrpqE&t=109s

[Mr. Body]

If he would just work on his body and become a STEP faster he would be a leader off the bench. If he was TWO steps faster he would be a solid starter and if he was three steps faster he would be a quasi-star. Im FLUMMOXED by his lack of physical development since he joined the spurs. It doesnt make any sense. He's just as slow now as he was in college.

He's not, though. He's noticeably faster. He's learned to compensate really well. Once he learns to score he's going to be a rotation player.

[monkeypunk]

He's not, though. He's noticeably faster. He's learned to compensate really well. Once he learns to score he's going to be a rotation player.

Agreed. He's got to shoot when he's open. It's all well and good to facilitate but he has to recognize when he's wide open and take the shot to keep the defense honest.

[tonight...you]

He needs to model his game as Bodiroga (same size and speed, unfortunately does not have the same basketball QI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WD2zwrpqE&t=109s
Good stuff...
The frustrating thing is he looks like he could do those things, but it's either he can't, or he won't and both are bad.
I still cling to the hope that he could develop that guy's aggressiveness with all those old-man moves with fluidity, although I think Kyle is even slower than him, but could still make that stuff work.

But that hope dims with every game. The last one was okay... he has to get used to eating, when the food is in front of him, because dishing out ain't paying the bills.

He simply has to go immediately into motion, off-ball, or threaten something as soon as he gets the ball and use his instincts, along with the play call, once his defender is moving.
Fluidly. Decisively. Then maybe he can be somebody. Otherwise he's just Slo-Head Fat-mo...

[TrainOfThought5]

He's not, though. He's noticeably faster. He's learned to compensate really well. Once he learns to score he's going to be a rotation player.

His increase is not in a vacuum. Its relative to the athletes around him. Hes still just as slow today against NBA level athletes as he was in college against college level athletes. Probably unfair expectations to want him to grow leaps and bounds kawhi-style year after year, but such is spoiled spurfan fandom.

[elemento]

People need to realize Anderson has a place in this league. He's not there quite yet, but already he's dispensed with his major problem -- he's actually a good defender now. Amazingly he's learned how to use his length to counteract his slowness. The rest will take a bit more work, but this guy is an NBA player. You can go cry yourselves to sleep.

I thought i was alone as the only Kyle believer on the ST board :toast

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I thought i was alone was the only Kyle believer on the ST board :toast

Count me in as well. He is an NBA player, despite of his underwhelming athleticism but he desperately needs to be able to hit the open 3 and to finally find a position for himself. He's neither a wing, nor a 4 yet.

[Brazil]

:lol this thread will need a bump on his next 2 pts 1 rb in 15 mn game

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol this thread will need a bump on his next 2 pts 1 rb in 15 mn game
Kylefan waited a year or two to announce to the world they're Kylefan :lol

[GSH]

You can't teach fast any more than you can teach tall. He needs to hit the weight room, and settle in as a stretch-4. Anything else is a pipe dream. It's the damn NBA, and it's full of fast players - and they're always going to pick him apart as a point-forward. Diaw's passing and ball-handling skills were a big asset, but he wouldn't have had a career as a point-forward in the NBA. A guy nicknamed Slow-Mo can't be a primary ball handler at this level. Period. PATFO didn't do him any favors by pushing that experiment as long as they did.

[HarlemHeat37]

Might have to give him another shot if Simmons' jump shot stays broken, tbh..

[dabom]

Might have to give him another shot if Simmons' jump shot stays broken, tbh..

I don't want fathead in the playoffs. I don't even care if he could be useful in the RS.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't want fathead in the playoffs. I don't even care if he could be useful in the RS.

I don't disagree, but it's looking like it may play out the same way as last season(Simmons takes Anderson's spot, starts strong, fizzles out, Anderson takes the spot back)..

[bklynspursfan]

I don't disagree, but it's looking like it may play out the same way as last season(Simmons takes Anderson's spot, starts strong, fizzles out, Anderson takes the spot back)..

They are like opposite players. Simmons' biggest advantage is his obvious athleticism, and his ability to break down defenses when he drives in. He definitely needs to start knocking down those 3's, I hope he spends most his time with Chip. Unless he starts getting out of control again, and/or Anderson plays like he did the other night much more consistently, I don't know if he'll lose the spot simply because his skills are very valuable for that 2nd unit

[SAGirl]

They are like opposite players. Simmons' biggest advantage is his obvious athleticism, and his ability to break down defenses when he drives in. He definitely needs to start knocking down those 3's, I hope he spends most his time with Chip. Unless he starts getting out of control again, and/or Anderson plays like he did the other night much more consistently, I don't know if he'll lose the spot simply because his skills are very valuable for that 2nd unit
I don't think Simmons should lose his spot, but he will need to play differently and Pop needs to adjust schemes. He should not be spotting up at the top of the key never, ever, ever. He can't make that shot and they will dare him to shoot, and also help off of him. He needs to spot in the corner, which leaves him with a better chance for a corner 3 (an easier shot), a backdoor cut, he's speedy and athletic could be deadly, etc. The way he's played he's exposed. He just can't shoot period. It's not going to be fixed in one season, but he can be streaky. Just the spots he is spotted at and his lack of cutting is not good.

Anderson is going to have to continue to play well when he has chances, which are few and far between. I don't think he will take over anyone's role with good play, but it's good to have as an alternative when others are stinking things up.

In reality, Pop would need to also use others like Bertans for the same reason.

[bklynspursfan]

I don't think Simmons should lose his spot, but he will need to play differently and Pop needs to adjust schemes. He should not be spotting up at the top of the key never, ever, ever. He can't make that shot and they will dare him to shoot, and also help off of him. He needs to spot in the corner, which leaves him with a better chance for a corner 3 (an easier shot), a backdoor cut, he's speedy and athletic could be deadly, etc. The way he's played he's exposed. He just can't shoot period. It's not going to be fixed in one season, but he can be streaky. Just the spots he is spotted at and his lack of cutting is not good.

Anderson is going to have to continue to play well when he has chances, which are few and far between. I don't think he will take over anyone's role with good play, but it's good to have as an alternative when others are stinking things up.

In reality, Pop would need to also use others like Bertans for the same reason.

The Bertans thing is weird. We are still ~2 months into the season, so even though it feels like forever, by January/February Bertans could be getting consistent minutes. He's been a bit up and down, but his last few games warrant him to get some time IMO.

He's still very much evaluating different things, so things could be completely different in a month or 2 in terms of rotations.

[Brazil]

:lol this thread will need a bump on his next 2 pts 1 rb in 15 mn game

Close enough :lol

[tholdren]

Might have to give him another shot if Simmons' jump shot stays broken, tbh..
spurs aint paying simmons to shoot jumpers.

[SAGirl]

He should have played more last game. He was very impactful despite limited minutes and coming in when Pop apparently had given up on the game already.
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Stat line 4/5 shooting for 8 points 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 5 steals in 13 minutes.

I hope it doesn't get lost on the coach...
812129828967022592

This was him against the clippers last season.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=j4mFJ_DK9aw

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't disagree, but it's looking like it may play out the same way as last season(Simmons takes Anderson's spot, starts strong, fizzles out, Anderson takes the spot back)..

Basically, PATFO needs to hit up the buyout market since BOTH Simmons/Fat Head are 3rd string wings.

Meeks/Casspi are looking like sure buyout candidates & Casspi is probably a better option since he can play the 4 while Meeks is looking like Neal in his last season w/ the Spurs as he can't seem to stay healthy.

[ElNono]

Well, that was pretty lame against the Blazers, tbh... his saving grace is that Bertrans was probably worse.

He's going to need to be a lot better to make a potential playoff rotation...

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

[dabom]

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

His career:

https://m.popkey.co/f0dc12/gKGp6.gif

[$pursDynasty]

His career:

https://m.popkey.co/f0dc12/gKGp6.gif
Yacht :lmao that is hilarious

[Mnky]

His career:

https://m.popkey.co/f0dc12/gKGp6.gif

:lol

[spurs10]

His career:

https://m.popkey.co/f0dc12/gKGp6.gif Is that hi-lights from the game?

[Robz4000]

Burn this shit to the ground, and piss on the ashes.

[MaNu4Tres]

Some of you guys have no heart. :lol Nono

[mudyez]

That O-rebound in the third got us the lead, so he basically won us the game!

Still the third best Kyle in the league! :hat

[Captivus]

http://img15.deviantart.net/98ee/i/2010/259/b/1/shaker_church_burning_by_alostfraggle-d2yupr6.jpg

[Raven]

disappointing yesterday. He was still a big plus, confirming once again that he can be played even when his shot isn't falling. He's in a hard spot, hopefully he turns it around.