So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?

[CosmicCowboy]

Getting punched by a big dude is suddenly a life-threatening situation?

If some dude rushes up me on the street, is big, and looks threatening, I can just whip out a gun an shoot him dead on the spot?

Actually, as I understand the law in Texas...if he has already punched you and broken your orbital bone and then rushes you again you are well within your right to shoot his ass because you have a reasonable fear for your life. Not that I want to be a test case.

[FromWayDowntown]

Actually, as I understand the law in Texas...if he has already punched you and broken your orbital bone and then rushes you again you are well within your right to shoot his ass because you have a reasonable fear for your life. Not that I want to be a test case.

My point is that punches, while injurious, don't usually tend to be life-threatening.

[vy65]

My point is that punches, while injurious, don't usually tend to be life-threatening.

That's true, but don't you think, socially and legally, we treat assaulting a random civilian differently than we treat assaulting a law enforcement officer?

[FromWayDowntown]

That's true, but don't you think, socially and legally, we treat assaulting a random civilian differently than we treat assaulting a law enforcement officer?

Not to belabor the point, but -- again -- neither is a capital crime.

[vy65]

Not to belabor the point, but -- again -- neither is a capital crime.

It's all good. You're right it's not. But it certainly might authorize the use of deadly force.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not to belabor the point, but -- again -- neither is a capital crime.

As an attorney you are probably aware that it really comes down to "state of mind" and "reasonable fear". No one but the officer really knows what went through his mind in those awful seconds but I seriously doubt he got out of bed that morning and decided he was going to shoot someone that day "just because he could".

[ElNono]

I think you are asking for superhuman reasoning/self control for a person in a truly life threatening situation...If the Brown was truly rushing him like an NFL linebacker as witnesses say he had no time to weigh all the non-fatal options..."oh, let me holster my gun and get out my taser or go back to the car for my baton"...according to witnesses he stopped him only 3' away with the final shot....

I don't think there's anything superhuman about recognizing a situation and acting on it, especially for a trained individual. Wouldn't be the first time or last time police retreat and regroup. If he truly felt he couldn't subdue him, then what were his other options? If shooting him fatally were option A, B and C, then why are we giving these guys batons, tasers, sprays, etc?

FWIW, there might be completely legitimate reasons for him to kill him, they're just not readily clear to me with what we know so far.

[DarrinS]

Would this cop have been justified using deadly force?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1urLh8Kh_9A

[pgardn]

We still have witnesses giving very different stories.


What they all have in common though is a cop shooting a man at distance.
A man rushing him, a man threatening him, a man daring him to shoot and then a numb rush, a man hands up saying don't shoot.

When did the cop call for backup? And some help here, did brown really spend 4 hrs lying dead after the shooting?

[ElNono]

As an attorney you are probably aware that it really comes down to "state of mind" and "reasonable fear". No one but the officer really knows what went through his mind in those awful seconds but I seriously doubt he got out of bed that morning and decided he was going to shoot someone that day "just because he could".

I actually understand the whole 'fear' thing, but other than possibly be a mitigating factor, I don't think it's the end all, be all of a possible defense.

[pgardn]

Would this cop have been justified using deadly force?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1urLh8Kh_9A

Hey.

She had a camera on.
This would have been useful in the situation being discussed.

[CosmicCowboy]

I actually understand the whole 'fear' thing, but other than possibly be a mitigating factor, I don't think it's the end all, be all of a possible defense.

Just sayin these guys aren't robots, they are human subject to the same fears and automatic defense mechanisms we are (or at least I am). Guess the fact that my future son in law is a part time cop may be clouding my judgement. I want him to live and if he shoots some guy trying to hurt or kill him I'm all for it.

[ElNono]

Would this cop have been justified using deadly force?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1urLh8Kh_9A

Wonder was Stephen A Smith would say...

[CosmicCowboy]

I actually understand the whole 'fear' thing, but other than possibly be a mitigating factor, I don't think it's the end all, be all of a possible defense.

Actually as I understand the law in Texas and a lot of other states, it is.

[pgardn]

Would this cop have been justified using deadly force?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1urLh8Kh_9A

And this is very Trillish.

So trill is required to show a vid with a White cop beating a Black woman.

[FromWayDowntown]

Just sayin these guys aren't robots, they are human subject to the same fears and automatic defense mechanisms we are (or at least I am). Guess the fact that my future son in law is a part time cop may be clouding my judgement. I want him to live and if he shoots some guy trying to hurt or kill him I'm all for it.

Ask the question a different way: if a cop was in Brown's shoes (and still a cop) and Brown had been in the cop's shoes (and still not a cop) -- assuming for now the facts will eventually show that the cop's side of the story is objectively true -- would Brown have been justified in shooting and killing the cop?

[ElNono]

Just sayin these guys aren't robots, they are human subject to the same fears and automatic defense mechanisms we are (or at least I am). Guess the fact that my future son in law is a part time cop may be clouding my judgement. I want him to live and if he shoots some guy trying to hurt or kill him I'm all for it.

We actually spend a pretty penny training them to recognize complex situations. Which is largely what distinguishes them from you or I. That doesn't mean they're going to do the right thing 100% of the time, but as FWD indicated, if the new trend is to protect potential 'fuckups' and lower the bar for the use of lethal force, then we're heading in the wrong direction. I'm not saying this is what happened here, we just don't know yet, but it's certainly a possible angle.

[CosmicCowboy]

Ask the question a different way: if a cop was in Brown's shoes (and still a cop) and Brown had been in the cop's shoes (and still not a cop) -- assuming for now the facts will eventually show that the cop's side of the story is objectively true -- would Brown have been justified in shooting and killing the cop?

Let me get this straight...

Brown is driving down the street and yells at the cracker (cop not in uniform) to get out of the street.

The cracker approaches the car, punches Brown in the face breaking his orbital bone, and then wrestles with him for a gun he sees in the car.

The gun goes off and the cracker initially retreats...

The cracker then has a change of heart, taunts Brown that he won't shoot him,and then rushes Brown in an attempt to disarm him and presumably do more harm to him.

Yeah, I'd say Brown is well within his legal right to shoot the cracker.

[FromWayDowntown]

Let me get this straight...

Brown is driving down the street and yells at the cracker (cop not in uniform) to get out of the street.

The cracker approaches the car, punches Brown in the face breaking his orbital bone, and then wrestles with him for a gun he sees in the car.

The gun goes off and the cracker initially retreats...

The cracker then has a change of heart, taunts Brown that he won't shoot him,and then rushes Brown in an attempt to disarm him and presumably do more harm to him.

Yeah, I'd say Brown is well within his legal right to shoot the cracker.

No. The cop in uniform and on duty, in the midst of a confrontation with a citizen, rushes the citizen (after having already punched the citizen). If the citizen fires and kills the cop, is that justifiable?

[CosmicCowboy]

No. The cop in uniform and on duty, in the midst of a confrontation with a citizen, rushes the citizen (after having already punched the citizen). If the citizen fires and kills the cop, is that justifiable?

Hmmmmm.

probably not.

In a confrontation with a cop Yes Sir and No Sir go a long way towards preventing escalation of violence. Take away the cops right to confront resistance with force and you are inviting anarchy.

I realize it's a thin line and the world is full of bad guys but I'm glad the cops are out there trying to do a tough job.

War on drugs? Not so much.

[boutons_deux]

Appoint a Special Prosecutor to Investigate the Murder of Michael Brownhttp://petitions.moveon.org/sign/appoint-a-special-prosecutor?source=mo&id=100069-4330971-hD_aC2x

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL Boo.

[angrydude]

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/


The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown.

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More… The St. Louis County Police told reporters after the shooting that the police officer involved suffered facial injuries. He “was hit” and the “side of his face was swollen.”

I don't know anything about the source. But if this is true the shooting is probably going to be justified.

Dammit black people. Why can't you riot when the facts are on your side....

[ChumpDumper]

It took 10 days for a rumor to surface that this guys face got broken.

That really sounds suspicious as hell tbh.

[cheguevara]

:lol everyday is something else. what a circus this has become. If these idiots from both sides had any self respect they would both shut up and wait till the investigation is over and finished with.

clowns

[TheSanityAnnex]

It took 10 days for a rumor to surface that this guys face got broken.

That really sounds suspicious as hell tbh.
Did you also find it suspicious the DOJ advised them to not release the robbery video?

[ChumpDumper]

Did you also find it suspicious the DOJ advised them to not release the robbery video?Not at all. It helped absolutely nothing. Arguably made things worse.

Why do you think they haven't officially said he broke the cop's face? What is to be gained by keeping that information secret?

[HI-FI]

I mean, if I'm in a banana republic like Argentina, sure, I expect to get two bullets to the head and thrown in the middle of the ocean... In America, I expect more professionalism... obviously, again, this is all speculation. If the kid motioned like he was going to pull a gun or something like that, I can see the officer falling for it. That's why details matter.

IMO, the protests are fueled up because the initial reaction from the Police was absolutely stupid. Showing up with army gear, aiming at protesters, taking forever to even release a statement. Then they release that video that, in reality, has nothing to do with the kid's death/murder. There was clear distrust before the incident, and this whole thing just tipped the scale.

I'm with you as far as cops... I grew up in a country chock full of dirty cops. Even after moving to America, just can't shake the disgust...
agree that this whole thing has been bungled. imo, this is also being manipulated from the top, with the Feds and media not letting a crisis go to waste.

as for you saying the cop shouldn't have shot him, curious how officer Nono would have handled it, if your face just got bashed inward. I always presumed that if a cop has a gun pointed at you and warns you not to move, if you try to attack them or reach for a weapon, you're going to get shot. I thought this was common sense but apparently not based on all the disagreements.

if it turns out he shot the kid while his hands were up, then yes that would be ruthless and wrong.

[ElNono]

as for you saying the cop shouldn't have shot him, curious how officer Nono would have handled it, if your face just got bashed inward. I always presumed that if a cop has a gun pointed at you and warns you not to move, if you try to attack them or reach for a weapon, you're going to get shot. I thought this was common sense but apparently not based on all the disagreements.

There's a lot we don't know yet (including the extent of the alleged injury to the officer), so it's difficult to give you a concise answer. When this started it was that "the kid was trying to grab the cop's gun" and "struggle through the car window". Then we learned (and this we know for a fact due to the autopsies) that the kid was actually shot from a relatively long distance. So now we get the tweaked story that the kid was lunging at the cop.

It's fairly clear that depending who you talk to and which "side" they've taken on this (if they have), that you're going to get all sorts of hypothesis.

My main concern based on what we know (that he was shot from a relatively long distance) is that the cop might have had non-lethal options, but decided instead to go to the last resort (for whatever reason, including but not limited to: kid is a thug, kid is black, kid is too big, I'm scared of this dude, how he dare attacking me, ouch my face, etc). I'm concerned that any cop that might feel threatened, even by a completely unarmed person, can just decide to gun that person down and now has a get out of jail free card. Cops largely get the benefit of the doubt (you can see a lot of that in this very thread), but at some point there has to be a line they can't cross without some heavy accountability.

Maybe facts will show he was completely justified in what he did, and that's fine with me.

The real pisser here is that not only we don't know much due to the police taking a long ass time (apparently protecting their guy), now we get all this 'unnamed sources' from BOTH sides spreading bullshit, and that just makes me more skeptic. On a relatively clear cut case, you don't need to spread BS, the facts ultimately will back you up. This is compounded by the unsolicited release of the character assassination video. A video that I have no doubt has value in a potential trial, where character assassinations are commonplace, but only added fuel to the fire.

[boutons_deux]

We know the cops and the current prosecutor will lie to defend their murderer and "convict" Brown, and eye witnesses, whose accounts have been shown to be variable, unreliable in studies, will probably lie to exonerate Brown and accuse the murderer.

IF the prosecutor even decides to empanel a grand jury, but he may see this as a possibility to inflate his obscure career, get lotsa teevee facetime, etc, knowing his boys of the Blue Wall will lie to protect their own.

[boutons_deux]

(REPUG) Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/19/missouri-lt-gov-we-need-anglo-american-justice-in-ferguson-not-racial-protests/

If only, as in MO's Aiken's rape caucus, the Anglo-Americans could just shut down their vaginas and flush all these Afro-Americans down the toilet.

[Winehole23]

what happened in Iceland when a cop shot a civilian:


"The nation was in shock. This does not happen in our country," said Thora Arnorsdottir, news editor at RUV, the Icelandic National Broadcasting Service.


She was referring to a 59-year old man who was shot by police on Monday. The man, who started shooting at police when they entered his building, had a history of mental illness.


It's the first time someone has been killed by armed police in Iceland since it became an independent republic in 1944. Police don't even carry weapons, usually. Violent crime in Iceland is almost non-existent.
"The nation does not want its police force to carry weapons because it's dangerous, it's threatening," Arnorsdottir says. "It's a part of the culture. Guns are used to go hunting as a sport, but you never see a gun."



In fact, Iceland isn't anti-gun. In terms of per-capita gun ownership, Iceland ranks 15th in the world. Still, this incident was so rare that neighbors of the man shot were comparing the shooting to a scene from an American film.



The Icelandic police department said officers involved will go through grief counseling. And the police department has already apologized to the family of the man who died — though not necessarily because they did anything wrong.



"I think it's respectful," Arnorsdottir says, "because no one wants to take another person's life. "

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/iceland-grieves-after-police-kill-man-first-time-its-history

[DarrinS]

what happened in Iceland when a cop shot a civilian:

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/iceland-grieves-after-police-kill-man-first-time-its-history



Ethnic groups
93% Icelandic, 7.0% other

Religions
As of 2002: Lutheran 87.1%, Protestant 4.1%, Roman Catholic 1.7% and other 7.1%

[Winehole23]

Racially and religiously uniform. Surely it can't be as simple as that.

[DarrinS]

Racially and religiously uniform. Surely it can't be as simple as that.


I suspect there's not a lot of murder, rape, and "knock out game" going on over there either.

[pgardn]

Racially and religiously uniform. Surely it can't be as simple as that.

The vast majority are Atheists.

So when you deed, you deed.

No square dancing with angels is a frightening prospect.

[Winehole23]

I suspect there's not a lot of murder, rape, and "knock out game" going on over there either.No black people, no violent crime. How simpleminded.

[pgardn]

I would honestly guess its cultural. They did not have wars for independence, conquer vast territory ruled by hostile natives, or have an extremely violent civil war. We are used to death by gun. Very used to it. It so nice and clean on all our TV programs.

We have the Wild West going on in crowded places, it's quite silly really.

[DarrinS]

No black people, no violent crime. How simpleminded.

I just said there was probably less violent crime and you jumped to this conclusion.

[DarrinS]

The vast majority are Atheists.

So when you deed, you deed.

No square dancing with angels is a frightening prospect.


Where are you getting this information?

[Winehole23]

I just said there was probably less violent crime and you jumped to this conclusion.liar.

"knock out game" is a dog whistle and you know it. you're like a walking dog whistle for racism. trying to conceal it under threadbare excuses only accentuates it, tbh.

[DarrinS]

liar.

"knock out game" is a dog whistle and you know it. you're like a walking dog whistle for racism. trying to conceal it under threadbare excuses only accentuates it, tbh.


Ah, the "dog whistles".

[CosmicCowboy]

liar.

"knock out game" is a dog whistle and you know it. you're like a walking dog whistle for racism. trying to conceal it under threadbare excuses only accentuates it, tbh.

dog whistle?


Hackensack cops seek ‘knockout game’ suspect after three assaults

AUGUST 19, 2014, 5:58 PM LAST UPDATED: TUESDAY, AUGUST 19, 2014, 11:31 PM
BY STEFANIE DAZIO AND ABBOTT KOLOFF
STAFF WRITERS
THE RECORD
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Hackensack residents were warned to be alert as police hunted for a man who randomly approached and punched three others Monday night in what may be the first local incidents of “the knockout game.” The activity has resulted in one North Jersey death and plagued urban areas nationwide.

The three separate, sudden assaults took place within 15 minutes and involved the same man, who appeared to be acting alone, police said.

The knockout game typically involves a strolling group, with one person suddenly punching a passer-by and another recording video to display on a social media site. “Someone just walks up and cold-cocks someone in the face totally unannounced, totally unprovoked,” city police Capt. Thomas Salcedo said while detailing the local incidents.

He said that the assailant was described as a 6-foot-tall or taller black man with an athletic build who was wearing a black V-neck short-sleeved T-shirt, black pants and a Brooklyn Nets cap. The incidents all took place in the areas of Essex Street, Summit Avenue and Beech Street, Salcedo said, and the victims were two men in their 50s and another in his 20s. None of the men was seriously injured.

The knockout game’s notoriety and base violence led almost a dozen state lawmakers to sponsor five bills late last year to toughen penalties for people who play it. In response to those initiatives, which are still pending, the State Police and the state Attorney General’s Office said they have not seen the violent game as a growing problem in New Jersey.

A 14-year-old was sentenced last week to six years in a juvenile detention center for punching a 46-year-old homeless man in Hoboken last year. The man died. The 14-year-old had been among three teenagers who approached the man; the other two teens received probation.

Assemblyman Gordon Johnson, D-Englewood, the sponsor of one of the proposed laws aimed at the knockout game, said Tuesday night the legislation would help stop the game from becoming a trend in the state.

“I thought it best to get ahead of the trend,” Johnson said. “I’m not going to wait for a pattern in New Jersey. It’s definitely a trend in the tri-state area. It is a problem that has to be addressed properly.”

The Hackensack incidents don’t indicate that the game has taken root in North Jersey, he said, but he added that his bill might have made the assailant think twice before throwing a punch. It would create a second-degree offense called “aggravated assault for loss of consciousness” that carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison and a maximum fine of $150,000. Currently, knocking someone unconscious would be charged as third-degree aggravated assault, with a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of up to $15,000.

Police said the first victim Monday night, a 54-year-old East Orange man, was punched in the face and fell in the Simon’s Market parking lot on Essex Street at 10:35 p.m. Salcedo said the man sustained a large facial cut, but that police don’t know if it was from the punch or the fall.

About 10 minutes later, the assailant ran up behind a 57-year-old city man at Summit Avenue and Beech Street and punched him from behind, hitting him on the right side of his face and jaw, Salcedo said.

Just 100 feet from that spot and three minutes later, the suspect approached a 27-year-old city man and asked for directions, Salcedo said. While the victim looked at his phone, the man punched him “square in the face.”

He said police are reviewing video surveillance from the area and are advising the public to be vigilant and walk in well-lit areas. Anyone with information was asked to call the city police at 201-646-7777.

- See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/news/hackensack-cops-seek-knockout-game-suspect-after-three-assaults-1.1069746#sthash.Huy8Dizv.dpuf

[Winehole23]

birds of a feather

[CosmicCowboy]

birds of a feather

Just didn't understand the dog whistle comment. It's real, it is happening...that is current news.

[boutons_deux]

Missouri GOP Outraged About Voter Registration Booths In Ferguson (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/19/1323015/-Missouri-GOP-Outraged-About-Voter-Registration-Booths-In-Ferguson)

From The New Civil Rights Movement (http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/conservatives_furious_voter_registration_booths_ar e_popping_up_in_ferguson):


In an interview with Breitbart News, Missouri RNC executive director Matt Wills expressed outrage about the reports of voter registration booths popping up in Ferguson, Breitbart reports.“If that’s not fanning the political flames, I don’t know what is,” Wills said, “I think it’s not only disgusting but completely inappropriate.”

Wills explained that the shooting death of Michael Brown was a tragedy for everyone.

“This is not just a tragedy for the African American community this is a tragedy for the Missouri community as well as the community of what we call America,” he said. “Injecting race into this conversation and into this tragedy, :lol :lol :lol not only is not helpful, but it doesn’t help a continued conversation of justice and peace.”


The (far) right wing site, "Daily Caller," is also doing a bit of fear-mongering of its own. From the same article:


Liberal activists — including from the George Soros-funded Center for Constitutional Rights — have promoted voter registration booths at multiple locations in Ferguson, including at the roadside memorial marking the spot where Brown was shot.
African-Americans are extremely under-represented in the racial makeup of elected officials and policemen in Ferguson. Salon (http://www.salon.com/2014/08/19/gops_insane_ferguson_crusade_now_theyre_denouncing _voter_registration_drives/) gives us some of those statistics:


Ferguson is majority black, but the mayor is white, and five of the six city council members are white. For members of the community who feel their interests aren’t being represented, the first step towards changing that is registering to vote. Also, reportedly, only three of the 53 Ferguson police officers are Black.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/19/1323015/-Missouri-GOP-Outraged-About-Voter-Registration-Booths-In-Ferguson?detail=email#

[boutons_deux]

American Family Association: Michael Brown 'tanked up' on pot, probably went 'berserk' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322704/-American-Family-Association-Michael-Brown-tanked-up-on-pot-probably-went-berserk)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322704/-American-Family-Association-Michael-Brown-tanked-up-on-pot-probably-went-berserk?detail=email

Racist, rednecks, Repugs, tea baggers, right-wing hate machine, Spurs Talkers really having fun with criminalizing The Dead N!gg@

[Trill Clinton]

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killer cops


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zbR824FKpU

[angrydude]

The city council has no power over police. The mayor might. After all this I'd be shocked if they weren't all voted out.

That democrat governor who called out the national guard and imposed a curfew though...

[angrydude]

This is how people respond to heavy handed police brutality in Switzerland.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jagvYIMJyzU#t=93

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trill Clinton]

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[TheSanityAnnex]

http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/ (http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/19/shawn-parcells-credentials-role-in-michael-brown-autopsy-questioned-by-doctors/)

:lol

Shawn Parcells’ credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors


KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A Kansas City man is now front and center in the controversial shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. Shawn Parcells owns a company that provides autopsy services, and some in the forensic community are taking issue with his involvement in this or any other case.
Parcells owns National Forensic Autopsy and Recovery Services. He says lawyers for the family of Michael Brown contacted him because of his expertise in gunshot wounds.
“I am a forensic pathologist assistant and medical investigator,” Parcells told FOX 4’s Shannon O’Brien.
However, that’s something of a dubious title according to forensic pathologist Dr. Erik Mitchell.
“That is a degree that does not exist in my knowledge, except in the mind of Shawn Parcells,” Dr. Mitchell said.
Dr. Mitchell takes issue with Parcells’ title.
“You cannot claim the title, because it is a formal, licensable position. You can assist somebody; in this way I can say, for instance, I have paid my taxes, so I am an assistant President of the United States,” Dr. Mitchell said.
Parcells admits he has no certification as a pathology assistant, but says his qualification comes from experience.
“I worked there as a forensic assistant for about a year. And if I remember correctly that was 2005 to 2006. That was under Dr. Young,” Parcells said.
That’s Dr. Thomas Young, the former Jackson County Medical Examiner.
“And that’s honestly where I gained a lot of my experience,” Parcells said.
Parcells says his training began in 1997 when he interned with Dr. Young, until he was hired in the mid-2000’s.
Dr. Young responded with this statement:
“Shawn hung out at the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s office but was not trained by me.”…. “He has been representing himself in a way that is not appropriate by giving forensic pathology opinions when he is not qualified to do so.”
“He has none of the qualifications that are required. He has experience as a morgue technician, somebody who would move bodies around, clean up after an autopsy,” Dr. Mitchell said.
Parcells says he has detractors because of a competitive system.
“A lot of this was started because I have competitors who I was taking business from. And the coroners, also, is a very political system. It’s buddy-buddy, who’s your buddy?” Parcells said.
Dr. Mitchell doesn’t agree.

“Jealousy has nothing to do with the issue with Parcells. Parcells is practicing medicine without a license,” he said.
Parcells says he and Dr. Baden are offering their services for free to the Brown family. Only their travel and related expenses are being paid for.

[Trill Clinton]

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i really hope mr. holder runs for president in the future
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[RandomGuy]

The vast majority are Atheists.

So when you deed, you deed.

No square dancing with angels is a frightening prospect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iceland

Apparently not. Certainly not as religious as the US though, and likely declining, given their demographics and education levels.

[boutons_deux]

If the police haven't fucked up the clothes already, I'd like to see the forensic reports on Brown's clothes.

[RandomGuy]

The city council has no power over police. The mayor might. After all this I'd be shocked if they weren't all voted out.

That democrat governor who called out the national guard and imposed a curfew though...

I would guess that is the case. Hooray for negative feedback.

Police do need to be held accountable, and if they are not, then vote in a local government that will do that.

Quit protesting, and start voting. IMO.

[RandomGuy]

In an interview with Breitbart News, Missouri RNC executive director Matt Wills expressed outrage about the reports of voter registration booths popping up in Ferguson, Breitbart reports.[/FONT][/SIZE]“If that’s not fanning the political flames, I don’t know what is,” Wills said, “I think it’s not only disgusting but completely inappropriate.”

So they don't want people to riot, and they don't want people who are angry to vote?

That is the conservative reaction to this?

I made my statement about voting being a much more constructive way to handle this before reading this, and never imagined anybody who cared about democracy in the US would think it was a bad thing. In-fucking-credible.

Matt Wills' statement is worse than insulting, it is cynical and manipulative. It saddens me that there are probably a lot of suckers in the GOP that will happily parrot that.

The disconnect from reality on the right is really astonishing to see sometimes.

[RandomGuy]

Any Republicans here think that the people in that community shouldn't get out and vote if they are unhappy?

Just curious to see if that is a rank and file belief as well.

[Trill Clinton]

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[cantthinkofanything]

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you might see some NRA support if the protests began once all the facts are known and the protests did not involve looting and fucking shit up.

[boutons_deux]

Did the Missouri militia ever show up to defend Americans (unfortunately, these are black) and the Constitution against the oppressive govt?

[cantthinkofanything]

Did the Missouri militia ever show up to defend Americans (unfortunately, these are black) and the Constitution against the oppressive govt?


It is foolish to jump in the middle of any skirmish especially while it is in due process of the law. By being responsible, the citizens; the militia is a stronger and more effective unit and not just another rogue organization.
"Patriotism is not a short frenzied burst of emotion, but the long and steady dedication of a lifetime." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Also, I could not find anything on the Missouri Militia website that mentioned they would pick and choose causes based on race. In fact, the Missouri Militia is open to black people.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trill Clinton]

Did the Missouri militia ever show up to defend Americans (unfortunately, these are black) and the Constitution against the oppressive govt?


nope, still waiting. protestors and media are getting gassed and threatened on camera and still nothing.

[boutons_deux]

Missouri's Shockingly Ugly Racist Past and Present: Why Ferguson's Inferno Is No Surprise

For decades, Missouri has spawned or attracted many of the nation's most virulent racists, including neo-Nazis and the remnants of the once-powerful Ku Klux Klan. Associated with violent criminality and crackpot religious extremism, these fringe groups could never wield much influence in the post-civil rights era. Beyond those marginalized outfits, however, exists another white supremacist group whose leaders have long enjoyed the patronage of right-wing Republican politicians.

The Council of Conservative Citizens, headquartered in St. Louis, is a living legacy of Southern "white resistance" to desegregation, with historical roots in the so-called citizens councils that sprang up during the 1950s as a "respectable" adjunct to the Klan. Its website currently proclaims that the CCC is "the only serious nationwide activist group that sticks up for white rights!" What that means, more specifically, is promoting hatred of blacks, Jews, gays and lesbians, and Latino immigrants while extolling the virtues of the "Southern way of life," the Confederacy and even slavery.

The group's website goes on to brag that the CCC is the only group promoting "white rights" whose meetings regularly feature "numerous elected officials, important authors, talk-show hosts, active pastors, and other important people" as speakers.

Although that boast may be exaggerated, it isn't hollow. Founded in 1985 by the ax handle-wielding Georgia segregationist Lester Maddox and a group of white activists, the CCC remained obscure to most Americans until 1998, when media exposure of its ties to prominent congressional Republicans led to the resignation of Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi as majority leader. Six years later, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit group monitoring racist activity in the United States, reported that the CCC had hosted as many as 38 federal, state and local officials at its meetings (all of them Republicans, except one Democrat) -- despite a warning from the Republican National Committee against associating with the hate group.

Over the years, the CCC's friends in high places included such figures as former Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri, who shared much of the CCC agenda as governor, when he opposed "forced
desegregation" of St. Louis schools -- along with the CCC members who served on the city's school board. When President George W. Bush appointed Ashcroft as U.S. attorney general, the CCC openly celebrated, declaring in its newsletter, "Our Ship Has Come In."

Recently, far fewer Republican officials have been willing to associate in public with the CCC's racist leaders. Then again, however, Ashcroft himself tended to meet secretly with those same bigots while outwardly shunning them. When asked about his connections with the group during his confirmation hearings in 2001, he swore that he had no inkling of its racist and anti-Semitic propaganda -- a very implausible excuse, given the CCC's prominence in St. Louis while he served as governor.

malignant traces of the group and the racial animus it represents have spread far beyond the state's borders. The most obvious example is Rush Limbaugh, the "conservative" cultural phenomenon who grew up south of St. Louis -- in Cape Girardeau, Missouri -- and who has earned a reputation as a racial agitator over many years on talk radio, where he began by doing mocking bits in "black" dialect.

In 1998, the talk jock defended Lott when other conservatives were demanding his resignation over the politician's CCC connection. Today Limbaugh echoes the CCC line on the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, which suggests coldly that the unarmed teenager deserved his fate because he may have been a suspect in shoplifting or smoked marijuana.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/missouris-shockingly-ugly-racist-past-and-present-why-fergusons-inferno-no-surprise?akid=12147.187590.FJo7el&rd=1&src=newsletter1016239&t=5

CCC, Limbaugh, "Aluminum Tits" Ashcroft, rape caucus hero Aiken, etc, etc. Just another red state's gifts to USA! :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

Missouri's Shockingly Ugly Racist Past and Present: Why Ferguson's Inferno Is No Surprise

For decades, Missouri has spawned or attracted many of the nation's most virulent racists, including neo-Nazis and the remnants of the once-powerful Ku Klux Klan. Associated with violent criminality and crackpot religious extremism, these fringe groups could never wield much influence in the post-civil rights era. Beyond those marginalized outfits, however, exists another white supremacist group whose leaders have long enjoyed the patronage of right-wing Republican politicians.

The Council of Conservative Citizens, headquartered in St. Louis, is a living legacy of Southern "white resistance" to desegregation, with historical roots in the so-called citizens councils that sprang up during the 1950s as a "respectable" adjunct to the Klan. Its website currently proclaims that the CCC is "the only serious nationwide activist group that sticks up for white rights!" What that means, more specifically, is promoting hatred of blacks, Jews, gays and lesbians, and Latino immigrants while extolling the virtues of the "Southern way of life," the Confederacy and even slavery.

The group's website goes on to brag that the CCC is the only group promoting "white rights" whose meetings regularly feature "numerous elected officials, important authors, talk-show hosts, active pastors, and other important people" as speakers.

Although that boast may be exaggerated, it isn't hollow. Founded in 1985 by the ax handle-wielding Georgia segregationist Lester Maddox and a group of white activists, the CCC remained obscure to most Americans until 1998, when media exposure of its ties to prominent congressional Republicans led to the resignation of Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi as majority leader. Six years later, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit group monitoring racist activity in the United States, reported that the CCC had hosted as many as 38 federal, state and local officials at its meetings (all of them Republicans, except one Democrat) -- despite a warning from the Republican National Committee against associating with the hate group.

Over the years, the CCC's friends in high places included such figures as former Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri, who shared much of the CCC agenda as governor, when he opposed "forced
desegregation" of St. Louis schools -- along with the CCC members who served on the city's school board. When President George W. Bush appointed Ashcroft as U.S. attorney general, the CCC openly celebrated, declaring in its newsletter, "Our Ship Has Come In."

Recently, far fewer Republican officials have been willing to associate in public with the CCC's racist leaders. Then again, however, Ashcroft himself tended to meet secretly with those same bigots while outwardly shunning them. When asked about his connections with the group during his confirmation hearings in 2001, he swore that he had no inkling of its racist and anti-Semitic propaganda -- a very implausible excuse, given the CCC's prominence in St. Louis while he served as governor.

malignant traces of the group and the racial animus it represents have spread far beyond the state's borders. The most obvious example is Rush Limbaugh, the "conservative" cultural phenomenon who grew up south of St. Louis -- in Cape Girardeau, Missouri -- and who has earned a reputation as a racial agitator over many years on talk radio, where he began by doing mocking bits in "black" dialect.

In 1998, the talk jock defended Lott when other conservatives were demanding his resignation over the politician's CCC connection. Today Limbaugh echoes the CCC line on the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, which suggests coldly that the unarmed teenager deserved his fate because he may have been a suspect in shoplifting or smoked marijuana.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/missouris-shockingly-ugly-racist-past-and-present-why-fergusons-inferno-no-surprise?akid=12147.187590.FJo7el&rd=1&src=newsletter1016239&t=5

CCC, Limbaugh, "Aluminum Tits" Ashcroft, rape caucus hero Aiken, etc, etc. Just another red state's gifts to USA! :lol




Wrong again as usual.

[Trill Clinton]

dummy cop i posted earlier has been relieved lol

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just saw some vids of some armed brothers and sisters, possible black panthers, holding rifles/shotguns, in military formation. i'd post the vid but this site doesn't support instagram.

[TheSanityAnnex]

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just saw some vids of some armed brothers and sisters, possible black panthers, holding rifles/shotguns, in military formation. i'd post the vid but this site doesn't support instagram.


I got ya back Trill

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This pic must make boutons head spin.

[Trill Clinton]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU

[Trill Clinton]

appreciate that. its apparently in dallas, texas and not ferguson.

[cantthinkofanything]

I got ya back Trill

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seems like a bad idea

[cantthinkofanything]

maybe not...seems aight...but what does this have to do with Black Power?

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/armed-demonstrators-march-through-south-dallas-to-protest-police-shootings.html/

Two dozen protesters from a gun club named after the founder of the Black Panther Party marched through the streets of South Dallas on Wednesday.

The open-carry rally was organized by the Huey P. Newton Gun Club to promote self-defense and community policing in response to recent police shootings.
Police monitored the black-clad demonstrators, some of whom had rifles slung over their shoulders. As they walked down MLK Boulevard, many chanted “black power” and “justice for Michael Brown,” the black teenager shot by police in suburban St. Louis.
At one point, the group stopped at Elaine’s Kitchen, and one of the organizers told those who were armed to display their weapons in a “safe, disciplined manner.”
An organizer who identified himself as Huey Freeman said they planned to patronize several South Dallas businesses to keep their money in the community and teach their neighbors about their “right to self-defense.”
The march came to a peaceful end about 90 minutes after it began at a car wash at Malcolm X Boulevard and Marburg Street.

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[boutons_deux]

seems like a bad idea

white men walking around with guns, no problem

black men walking around with guns, white men's nuts shrivel.

[pgardn]

Where are you getting this information?

The thread in the club.

is god dead...

He's got the poll and graphs, should have put atheists/agnostic

[boutons_deux]

On June 15, 2013, according to authorities and trial testimony, Couch was witnessed on surveillance video stealing two cases of beer from a Walmart store, driving with seven passengers in his father's Ford F-350 pickup truck, and speeding (70 MPH in a designated 40 MPH zone).

Three hours after the incident, he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.24, three times the legal limit for adult drivers in Texas. Couch also tested positive for Valium.

Approximately an hour after the beer theft, Couch was driving his father's truck at 70 MPH on a dark, rural road where motorist Breanna Mitchell's sport utility vehicle had stalled.

Hollie Boyles and her daughter Shelby, who lived nearby, had come out to help her, as had passing youth minister Brian Jennings.

Couch's truck swerved off the road and into Mitchell's car, then plowed into Jennings' parked car, which in turn hit an oncoming Volkswagen Beetle. The truck then flipped over and hit a tree.

Mitchell, Jennings, and both Hollie and Shelby Boyles were killed, while Couch and his seven teen passengers (none wearing seat belts) survived, as did the two children in Jennings' car and the two people in the Volkswagen.



Got it? Teen steals beer, gets hopped up on valium, then goes on to kill four people. And what did he get? Probation.

Michael Brown steals some cigars, kills no one, and gets murdered by police.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/20/1323273/-Killing-four-people-while-white-gets-you-probation?detail=email

[TheSanityAnnex]

On June 15, 2013, according to authorities and trial testimony, Couch was witnessed on surveillance video stealing two cases of beer from a Walmart store, driving with seven passengers in his father's Ford F-350 pickup truck, and speeding (70 MPH in a designated 40 MPH zone).

Three hours after the incident, he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.24, three times the legal limit for adult drivers in Texas. Couch also tested positive for Valium.

Approximately an hour after the beer theft, Couch was driving his father's truck at 70 MPH on a dark, rural road where motorist Breanna Mitchell's sport utility vehicle had stalled.

Hollie Boyles and her daughter Shelby, who lived nearby, had come out to help her, as had passing youth minister Brian Jennings.

Couch's truck swerved off the road and into Mitchell's car, then plowed into Jennings' parked car, which in turn hit an oncoming Volkswagen Beetle. The truck then flipped over and hit a tree.

Mitchell, Jennings, and both Hollie and Shelby Boyles were killed, while Couch and his seven teen passengers (none wearing seat belts) survived, as did the two children in Jennings' car and the two people in the Volkswagen.



Got it? Teen steals beer, gets hopped up on valium, then goes on to kill four people. And what did he get? Probation.

Michael Brown steals some cigars, kills no one, and gets murdered by police.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/20/1323273/-Killing-four-people-while-white-gets-you-probation?detail=email




Did I miss the part where Couch charged his arresting officer?

[cantthinkofanything]

white men walking around with guns, no problem

black men walking around with guns, white men's nuts shrivel.

no...but it wouldn't be a stretch for a group of rednecks to march with their guns out to meet them.
There are plenty of people (black and white) who are ready and just dying to get our there and go at it.

[pgardn]

The thread in the club.

Evolution

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238466&page=16

~O~

He's got the poll and graphs, should have put atheists/agnostic

I'll find it for you

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't see a problem with the Huey Newton gun club talking to business owners about protecting their property. More power to them. Too bad the looters in Ferguson didn't get met by the Huey Newton gun club. Dumb ass rioters were trashing and looting black owned businesses too...

Although I did have to LOL @ the cheap ass SKS's.

[pgardn]

I'll find it for you

My bad,
it was evolution, not a belief in a god or gods.
Although they are somewhat correlated

[pgardn]

white men walking around with guns, no problem

black men walking around with guns, white men's nuts shrivel.


This is funny.
Cause it has some truth to it.

[CosmicCowboy]

This is funny.
Cause it has some truth to it.

meh. Most of us rednecks have better guns and know how to use them if necessary. I have guns I can do head shots at 500 yards if it ever comes to that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

white men walking around with guns, no problem

black men walking around with guns, white men's nuts shrivel.

You lie.

You constantly cry about white guys open carrying.

What are your thoughts on blacks open carrying? Be honest this time.

[pgardn]

meh. Most of us rednecks have better guns and know how to use them if necessary. I have guns I can do head shots at 500 yards if it ever comes to that.

I don't think you would feel good about killing anyone.
I don't think normal people do.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't think you would feel good about killing anyone.
I don't think normal people do.

You are absolutely right. I'm not going out of my way looking for trouble and would only respond with deadly force if I or my extended family were being threatened.

[m>s]

white men walking around with guns, no problem

black men walking around with guns, white men's nuts shrivel.
ain't nobody scared of a couple coons with pea shooters, they're more likely to hold the damn thing backwards and shoot themselves

[pgardn]

The case is so over the top as presented so far it seems like there must be more.
Seems...

This was early on.

When it was presented as a cop telling a big black guy to get out of the street, and then shooting him six times when he was trying to surrender, arms raised.

I still want to know if Brown's body was in the street for 4 hrs after he was shot. I know they need to keep a crime scene clean, but 4 hrs in extreme heat? What the heck... Still have no answer to this claim.

[HI-FI]

There's a lot we don't know yet (including the extent of the alleged injury to the officer), so it's difficult to give you a concise answer. When this started it was that "the kid was trying to grab the cop's gun" and "struggle through the car window". Then we learned (and this we know for a fact due to the autopsies) that the kid was actually shot from a relatively long distance. So now we get the tweaked story that the kid was lunging at the cop.

It's fairly clear that depending who you talk to and which "side" they've taken on this (if they have), that you're going to get all sorts of hypothesis.

My main concern based on what we know (that he was shot from a relatively long distance) is that the cop might have had non-lethal options, but decided instead to go to the last resort (for whatever reason, including but not limited to: kid is a thug, kid is black, kid is too big, I'm scared of this dude, how he dare attacking me, ouch my face, etc). I'm concerned that any cop that might feel threatened, even by a completely unarmed person, can just decide to gun that person down and now has a get out of jail free card. Cops largely get the benefit of the doubt (you can see a lot of that in this very thread), but at some point there has to be a line they can't cross without some heavy accountability.

Maybe facts will show he was completely justified in what he did, and that's fine with me.

The real pisser here is that not only we don't know much due to the police taking a long ass time (apparently protecting their guy), now we get all this 'unnamed sources' from BOTH sides spreading bullshit, and that just makes me more skeptic. On a relatively clear cut case, you don't need to spread BS, the facts ultimately will back you up. This is compounded by the unsolicited release of the character assassination video. A video that I have no doubt has value in a potential trial, where character assassinations are commonplace, but only added fuel to the fire.
tl;dr
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jk

actually my biggest issues with this whole thing have been the a)militarization of the police force and b)media manipulation (per par). Police state is probably my biggest concern as a citizen so i didn't like seeing the initial images coming out of this debacle. As for the media, they are the biggest pieces of shit imo. I don't think this case was ever about race, but the media sure made it that way, same with Tawana Brawley, Zimmerman, Duke Lacrosse etc....It would be nice if the media actually went after those at the top, especially since the current administration is so corrupt, but they are bought and paid for.

I still think if a cop pulls his gun on you, tells you to freeze or else....then it's best to not bumrush the cop. the robdiaz point of view is he should've tossed the gun into the gutter and duked it out, but he has to be a troll account.

I do think the facts have been manipulated or mishandled by all sides, especially the media. That's why i disagree with you on releasing that video, to me it's perfectly pertinent since it shows what kind of piece of shit he was, or his state of mind, before fucking with a cop. before they released that, the media already casted Brown in the Blind Side prequel.

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[Trill Clinton]

video of cops shooting kajieme powell, the man shot in STL on tuesday


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408580469

[TheSanityAnnex]

video of cops shooting kajieme powell, the man shot in STL on tuesday


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408580469
So everyone gets mad cause Brown said don't shoot and was shot. Now everyone is mad cause Powell said to shoot and was shot. Make up your minds black community you are confusing the cops.

[tlongII]

video of cops shooting kajieme powell, the man shot in STL on tuesday


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408580469

Complete over-reaction by the cops. Unfortunately that's how they are trained.

[Trill Clinton]

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[TheSanityAnnex]

Complete over-reaction by the cops. Unfortunately that's how they are trained.
He repeatedly came at them with a knife after being told to drop it. He sealed his fate with his stupidity. I'm guessing the Mike Brown situation played out very much the same.

[ElNono]

tl;dr
:lol
jk

actually my biggest issues with this whole thing have been the a)militarization of the police force and b)media manipulation (per par). Police state is probably my biggest concern as a citizen so i didn't like seeing the initial images coming out of this debacle. As for the media, they are the biggest pieces of shit imo. I don't think this case was ever about race, but the media sure made it that way, same with Tawana Brawley, Zimmerman, Duke Lacrosse etc....It would be nice if the media actually went after those at the top, especially since the current administration is so corrupt, but they are bought and paid for.

I still think if a cop pulls his gun on you, tells you to freeze or else....then it's best to not bumrush the cop. the robdiaz point of view is he should've tossed the gun into the gutter and duked it out, but he has to be a troll account.

I do think the facts have been manipulated or mishandled by all sides, especially the media. That's why i disagree with you on releasing that video, to me it's perfectly pertinent since it shows what kind of piece of shit he was, or his state of mind, before fucking with a cop. before they released that, the media already casted Brown in the Blind Side prequel.

Sorry, but being a piece of shit doesn't automatically means you're to be gunned down*. We supposedly have a justice system. The video was a PR move, and I'm not even sure it worked the way they wanted to.
I'm in agreement about the dislike for the militarization of the police, and the implied cronyism involved in that. I mean, they allegedly didn't have money to install the dash cam, but they have money to load up on military gear??? come on, son.


*pakifuck notwithstanding.

[Trill Clinton]

this happened yesterday in missouri

http://localtvwdaf.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eldersmugweb.jpg?w=400&h=225&crop=1 (http://localtvwdaf.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eldersmugweb.jpg?w=400&h=225&crop=1)


PLATTE COUNTY, Mo. — Authorities with the Platte County Sheriff’s Department and Missouri Highway Patrol responded to 43 calls of a man pointing a firearm at traffic on Interstate 29 shortly before 5 p.m. Tuesday. Forty-six-year-old William R. Elders Jr. of Cottonwood, Idaho was taken into custody after officers had to use a Taser to subdue him.

On Wednesday he was charged in Platte County with one count of unlawful use of a weapon, a class D felony. He’s currently being held in jail on a $35,000 cash-only bond.

The Platte County Sheriff’s Office says Elders was walking along the area of southbound I-29 about a mile north of the 273 Highway exit and allegedly pointing a rifle at passing traffic. A probable cause statement says officers arrived to the scene and found Elders with a shouldered rifle pointing it down the interstate. A deputy said Elders began a scanning motion and pointed the muzzle at a passing vehicle before he was subdued.

He was then taken to a hospital for evaluation and was later booked into the Platte County Jail. Officers said they recovered the rifle at the scene.

A check of court records in Idaho only show misdemeanor infractions where twice he was found guilty of failing to provide a driver’s license or proof of insurance and once where he was found guilty of disturbing the peace. Online records don’t show when he’s due in court to appear for the charge filed against him Wednesday.

The sheriff’s office says it doesn’t have any evidence that indicates Elders actually fired the rifle at anyone. While the investigation continues, if you witnessed Elders in the act before police arrived or know anything about the incident, you’re urged to call (816) 858-3521.



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[boutons_deux]

http://localtvwdaf.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eldersmugweb.jpg?w=400&h=225&crop=1

... if he were black, he'd be shot dead on I-29.

[HI-FI]

Sorry, but being a piece of shit doesn't automatically means you're to be gunned down*. We supposedly have a justice system. The video was a PR move, and I'm not even sure it worked the way they wanted to.
I'm in agreement about the dislike for the militarization of the police, and the implied cronyism involved in that. I mean, they allegedly didn't have money to install the dash cam, but they have money to load up on military gear??? come on, son.


*pakifuck notwithstanding.

doesn't mean he deserves to be gunned down, but if he's willing to straight jack shit and then assault the owner, it's not unreasonable to think he would go bout it bout it with a cop. I'd have problems if they released video of him from high school, smoking a blunt and talking shit about white people. That might be relevant in a court but not during a riot. But this video was literally right before his demise, so to me it shows his state of mind. I really don't understand the liberal outcry on this one. I also don't think it inflamed the protests alone, considering Obama's crew is out there as agents provocateur, so it's really hard to say what is responsible for looting and rioting. IMO, they don't release that video if the media didn't make him out to be a gentle giant.

like i said, this whole thing is being exploited by various parties, which is sad but that's how it is these days. Funny how Holder will show up for this but not for the border....unless to arm the cartels with weapons.

agree about the dash cam, though it's possible that will be released in time and makes Wilson look even better. or maybe he's like "get your coon ass out of the street" before the fight.

[DarrinS]

Law enforcement has always been "militarized", tbh. As long as they don't start using grenades, tanks, etc., I don't see what the big deal is. Is it the camo that bugs people out. In the 1930's, cops carried Tommy guns because they were matching the firepower they were going up against.

[ChumpDumper]

Why are they dressing like kevlar ninjas?

[DarrinS]

Why are they dressing like kevlar ninjas?

Yes, why do cops wear riot gear during riots?

[Trill Clinton]

Law enforcement has always been "militarized", tbh. As long as they don't start using grenades, tanks, etc., I don't see what the big deal is. Is it the camo that bugs people out. In the 1930's, cops carried Tommy guns because they were matching the firepower they were going up against.


uhhh...no it hasn't always been militarized. michael render breaks it down perfectly starting at the 1:30 mark. what bugs people out are cops who aren't from that community terrorizing the same people they were sworn to protect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfrNFkP2do

[angrydude]

Law enforcement has always been "militarized", tbh. As long as they don't start using grenades, tanks, etc., I don't see what the big deal is. Is it the camo that bugs people out. In the 1930's, cops carried Tommy guns because they were matching the firepower they were going up against.

They weren't going against an army when they dressed up like one.

Face it. The cops' heavy handed response made the situation a lot worse.

[ElNono]

doesn't mean he deserves to be gunned down, but if he's willing to straight jack shit and then assault the owner, it's not unreasonable to think he would go bout it bout it with a cop. I'd have problems if they released video of him from high school, smoking a blunt and talking shit about white people. That might be relevant in a court but not during a riot. But this video was literally right before his demise, so to me it shows his state of mind. I really don't understand the liberal outcry on this one. I also don't think it inflamed the protests alone, considering Obama's crew is out there as agents provocateur, so it's really hard to say what is responsible for looting and rioting. IMO, they don't release that video if the media didn't make him out to be a gentle giant.

like i said, this whole thing is being exploited by various parties, which is sad but that's how it is these days. Funny how Holder will show up for this but not for the border....unless to arm the cartels with weapons.

agree about the dash cam, though it's possible that will be released in time and makes Wilson look even better. or maybe he's like "get your coon ass out of the street" before the fight.

There is NO dash cam video!!!! They didn't install them because they claim it costs them $3,000.00 each to install... Now I don't dispute that there's a cozy contract with some company that overcharges the fuck out of it, but it's ridiculous that they have money for SWAT teams and military teams, but no money for something that's literally there to bring transparency and accountability. Heck, it could've easily exonerated the cop right here.

The whole 'state of mind' thing is a distraction. There's going to be a toxicology report, and we'll know if he was high/drunk/etc... and it's useless because it tells you absolutely nothing of what happened. Nothing. You can't even say the cop stopped them because of that, because the shop owner didn't even report that until after the whole thing went down. Personally, I think it backfired. It reeked of excuse, it came like a week after the events, after the cops were basically in an omerta. That's just IMO.

[Trill Clinton]

i do however agree that police have always disproportionately targeted black males.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, why do cops wear riot gear during riots?All black?

No identification?

Masks?

Why?

[TheSanityAnnex]

i do however agree that police have always disproportionately targeted black males.
Kind of happens when said group commits a disproportionate amount of crime

[Trill Clinton]

do people take this guy serious???http://i61.tinypic.com/2nak2sx.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMSqvAM7NiI#t=182

[TheSanityAnnex]

All black?

No identification?

Masks?

Why?
Anonymous doxxing.

[ChumpDumper]

Anonymous doxxing.Why?

[Trill Clinton]

Kind of happens when said group commits a disproportionate amount of crime

haven't checked the stats in a while, but last i checked whites committed more crimes than blacks

[TheSanityAnnex]

haven't checked the stats in a while, but last i checked whites committed more crimes than blacks
More as in an actual number sure, but as a percentage of their population no.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why?
Stop asking stupid questions. Everyone saw how much you shit your pants when you thought people had discovered your true identity. If you were a cop doing your job in Ferguson would you want all of your personal info given to the public by Anon?

[Trill Clinton]

the journalist who erroneously reported a dozen witnesses confirm darrin's story has been put on a timeout

501788192727498752

maybe she'll correct her mistake and say 24 witnesses confirm officer darrin's story and not a dozen as she originally reportedhttp://i62.tinypic.com/349fonq.png

[DarrinS]

Kind of happens when said group commits a disproportionate amount of crime


The statistics are racist

[Trill Clinton]

More as in an actual number sure, but as a percentage of their population no.

so whites commit more crimes than blacks. got it.

[ChumpDumper]

Stop asking stupid questions. Everyone saw how much you shit your pants when you thought people had discovered your true identity.I never thought anyone had discovered my true identity.
If you were a cop doing your job in Ferguson would you want all of your personal info given to the public by Anon?What do they have to hide?

[DarrinS]

do people take this guy serious???http://i61.tinypic.com/2nak2sx.png


There's irony in you using a Bill Cosby avi.

[Trill Clinton]

blacks are also given harsher sentences for committing the same exact crime as whites.

[TheSanityAnnex]

so whites commit more crimes than blacks. got it.
Can you define disproportionate?

[Trill Clinton]

officer darrin supporters every time one of their shitty scenarios gets debunked

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1899644/mcnulty-kicks-desk-o.gif

[TheSanityAnnex]

I never thought anyone had discovered my true identity.What do they have to hide?
More stupid questions I see. What would you want to hide if there were people rioting in your city and hated you?

[Trill Clinton]

Can you define disproportionate?
okay, now you're trolling

[DarrinS]

so whites commit more crimes than blacks. got it.

Blacks:

Account for:

13% of population
>50% of all murders
> 90% of those victims -- other blacks

Ouch

[DarrinS]

officer darrin supporters every time one of their shitty scenarios gets debunked

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1899644/mcnulty-kicks-desk-o.gif


His name is spelled with an "e", btw

[ChumpDumper]

More stupid questions I see. What would you want to hide if there were people rioting in your city and hated you?

How many police officers were murdered in retaliation for quelling the Chicago 68 riots with their faces and name plates fully visible.

100?

1000?

[TheSanityAnnex]

How many police officers were murdered in retaliation for quelling the Chicago 68 riots with their faces and name plates fully visible.

100?

1000?My bad, forgot they had the Internet back then.

[ChumpDumper]

My bad, forgot they had the Internet back then.There was no way to find anyone before the internet?

lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

okay, now you're trolling
You can't define it?

[TheSanityAnnex]

There was no way to find anyone before the internet?

lol
Explain to me how someone in 1968 would

1. Obtain all personal information ie: SSN, place of residence, place of birth, employers, banking info, vehicles owned, church attended, family members, family members employers, family members residences etc

2. Distribute said information to ANYONE who wanted it at the click of the button.

You are usually sharper than this and I'm a bit surprised

[ChumpDumper]

Explain to me how someone in 1968 would

1. Obtain all personal information ie: SSN, place of residence, place of birth, employers, banking info, vehicles owned, church attended, family members, family members employers, family members residences etc

2. Distribute said information to ANYONE who wanted it at the click of the button.

You are usually sharper than this and I'm a bit surprisedWhy do they need to do all that to get revenge?

You act like people were helpless before the internet.

If they are that afraid, they should probably think twice about what they are doing.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why do they need to do all that to get revenge?

You act like people were helpless before the internet.

If they are that afraid, they should probably think twice about what they are doing.
You failed to answer my question. No point in continuing until you do so.

[ChumpDumper]

You failed to answer my question. No point in continuing until you do so.Your premise is false.

You think the internet is the only way anyone could track a person. I understand why you are afraid to continue.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Your premise is false.

You think the internet is the only way anyone could track a person. I understand why you are afraid to continue.
My premise had nothing to do with the way to track someone but the ease to obtain and ability to spread information. Nice try though. You've dodged quite a few questions these days. There is some good shit going on the live feeds right now, I'd recommend finding a good one.

[ChumpDumper]

My premise had nothing to do with the way to track someone but the ease to obtain and ability to spread information. Nice try though. You've dodged quite a few questions these days. There is some good shit going on the live feeds right now, I'd recommend finding a good one.So you refuse to answer my first question about the Chicago police.

What good shit is going on?

Give examples.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you refuse to answer my first question about the Chicago police.Answer the question that preceded it.


What good shit is going on?

Give examples.I've given you the means to see it for yourself, you've chosen not to and keep asking me to provide you with it after being refused again and again. Ask again, see if you'll get a different result.

[pgardn]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBPtWUJqPM


New procedures for approaching crazy people?
I think so.
We don't know everything here but this appears very wrong. Very.
Sorry if this is a repost.

I realize the police don't know if he is armed but procedures have to change.

[TheSanityAnnex]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBPtWUJqPM


New procedures for approaching crazy people?
I think so.
We don't know everything here but this appears very wrong. Very.
Sorry if this is a repost.
We do know everything here. A guy refused to drop his knife, continued at the officers who told him to drop it, and got shot. Next.

pgardn if I asked you to grate your dick with a cheese grater would you do so?
How about if I asked you to approach police aggressively with a knife in hand asking them to shoot you?

[spurraider21]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBPtWUJqPM


New procedures for approaching crazy people?
I think so.
We don't know everything here but this appears very wrong. Very.
Sorry if this is a repost.

I realize the police don't know if he is armed but procedures have to change.
he had a knife and they told him to drop it. the only thing "wrong" with this series of events was that moron's behavior and approach to the situation

[pgardn]

We do know everything here. A guy refused to drop his knife, continued at the officers who told him to drop it, and got shot. Next.

pgardn if I asked you to grate your dick with a cheese grater would you do so?
How about if I asked you to approach police aggressively with a knife in hand asking them to shoot you?

Yes if I was a nut.

Jesus you could shoot half the bums in San Antonio if they were liquored up.
Most of the people like this are nuts. They belong in homes.

So you don't see a procedural problem?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't like cops one bit and have been wrongfully jailed (passenger of a DUI crash who told the driver they didn't need to take a field sobriety test, jailed for obstructing an investigation and drunk in public---all bullshit charges that my lawyer laughed at and said this is what happens when you speak) but if you are going to confront an officer with a knife saying shoot me you deserve the outcome.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Yes if I was a nut.

Jesus you could shoot half the bums in San Antonio if they were liquored up.
Most of the people like this are nuts. They belong in homes.

So you don't see a procedural problem?

Nope not one bit.

I said it earlier and I'll say it again. Youtube some police stabbings and then tell me a knife is not a deadly weapon. Ever heard of 21 feet?

[pgardn]

I don't like cops one bit and have been wrongfully jailed (passenger of a DUI crash who told the driver they didn't need to take a field sobriety test, jailed for obstructing an investigation and drunk in public---all bullshit charges that my lawyer laughed at and said this is what happens when you speak) but if you are going to confront an officer with a knife saying shoot me you deserve the outcome.

The man is nuts.

I will say it again. We could wipe out half the bums that are agitated in this city. Approaching them this way.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The man is nuts.Yeah no shit. He told the crowd he wanted to be shot before the police arrived.


I will say it again. We could wipe out half the bums that are agitated in this city. Approaching them this way.Do half the bums in your city approach police aggressively with a knife refusing orders to drop the knife telling them to shoot them?

[pgardn]

Nope not one bit.

I said it earlier and I'll say it again. Youtube some police stabbings and then tell me a knife is not a deadly weapon. Ever heard of 21 feet?

And I will say it again. I have seen cops, and have seen for myself very similar situations that were handled very differently. So you drive right up to the man without parking further away and maybe getting some background info from the people who are around?

You just drive right up on the curb on an agitated bum?

Procedures must change.

[pgardn]

Yeah no shit. He told the crowd he wanted to be shot before the police arrived.

Do half the bums in your city approach police aggressively with a knife refusing orders to drop the knife telling them to shoot them?

No because they don't drive up on the curb at them. And I live in SA and have seen this at an HEB handled completely differently. Lots of bums hang out at an overpass near there. Lots of traffic stops and most ask for money. But there are very nutty ones as well.

You don't shoot crazy people because they want to be.

You don't think this could have been handled differently?

Man I guess I am just completely out of touch. I am so glad I'm not a cop in St. Louis. Or a crazy bum.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And I will say it again. I have seen cops, and have seen for myself very similar situations that were handled very differently. So you drive right up to the man without parking further away and maybe getting some background info from the people who are around?

You just drive right up on the curb on an agitated bum?

Procedures must change.
Agitated bum? Is that what you think he was?

[TheSanityAnnex]

No because they don't drive up on the curb at them. And I live in SA and have seen this at an HEB handled completely differently. Lots of bums hang out at an overpass near there. Lots of traffic stops and most ask for money. But there are very nutty ones as well.

You don't shoot crazy people because they want to be.

You don't think this could have been handled differently?

Man I guess I am just completely out of touch.
Again with the agitated bum? We've got extremely different interpretations of bums I guess.

Handled differently? Sure. The dipshit shouldn't continued wielding a knife approaching officers after being told to drop his deadly weapon.

We appear to have a different definition of bums, do we also differ in our opinion of a knife being a deadly weapon?

[pgardn]

Agitated bum? Is that what you think he was?

Yes. Crazy and needs to be sedated and in a home.

I have personally encountered stranger than this.
What do you think he was?

[pgardn]

I just had a guy not 4 weeks ago approach me and some business associates and say watch this. He took a donut and started crumbling it and throwing it up to seagulls probably from nearby Yellowstone. We sensed something strange and said we had to go. He walked to his tuck and pulled out a shot gun and fired at the gulls. He Fkn fired a shotgun and was killing gulls. We got out of there and called 911. It had already been called in.

Next we we saw the police talking to him. We drove around the side of the store. The guy was nuts. They drove away with him. I doubt he pulled a gun on them but Jesus...

You can't just shoot nuts. Would you have driven up that close to an armed bum that was agitated?
Change procedures.

[pgardn]

Maybe the cops thought he was a clear danger to the other people gathered.
That he might try and run off and knife someone after displaying his stolen drinks and daring people to take them.
The white truck that drove up before the cops, they were in a bad spot.

Im trying to wrap my head around this as it is very disturbing.

[boutons_deux]

where was the muderer's evidence for "agitated" bum? "bum"? yeah ok, he was black, all black men are bums, right?

these cop cars have load speakers, yeah? why didn't he tell them to get out of the street with his speaker?

There are so many better ways to handle this situation rather than the fatal one this asshole murderer chose.

[Trill Clinton]

the man was mentally ill. the cops could have handled that situation a lot better and proved to the citizens of STL they actually give a fucc about em. they could have talked to him like a human being, sprayed pepper spray, tazer.

he didn't rush them running full speed with his head down like mike brown did lol. he was calm and walked toward them.



http://i58.tinypic.com/fp5f1c.jpg

[pgardn]

where was the muderer's evidence for "agitated" bum? "bum"? yeah ok, he was black, all black men are bums, right?

these cop cars have load speakers, yeah? why didn't he tell them to get out of the street with his speaker?

There are so many better ways to handle this situation rather than the fatal one this asshole murderer chose.

You are worried about what I label him as after that? He's living with his grandma and just stole two sodas daring people people to take them in the middle of the day... He was obviously a nut. Drugged out, drunk, I don't know what. Many bums are exactly this. Mentally ill alcoholics or drug users. And you are worried about how he is labeled.

This was not about Brown, did you see the video I posted?

[pgardn]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBPtWUJqPM


New procedures for approaching crazy people?
I think so.
We don't know everything here but this appears very wrong. Very.
Sorry if this is a repost.

I realize the police don't know if he is armed but procedures have to change.

This boots...

[ChumpDumper]

Answer the question that preceded it.Which was what?


I've given you the means to see it for yourself, you've chosen not to and keep asking me to provide you with it after being refused again and again. Ask again, see if you'll get a different result.I asked which particular one you watched.

You are shutting down for no reason.

[cantthinkofanything]

the man was mentally ill. the cops could have handled that situation a lot better and proved to the citizens of STL they actually give a fucc about em. they could have talked to him like a human being, sprayed pepper spray, tazer.

he didn't rush them running full speed with his head down like mike brown did lol. he was calm and walked toward them.



They probably got a call that there was a man with a knife. They don't have the benefit of knowing the guys mental state and what he's going to do next. They rightfully drew their guns. For all they know, he's going to attack them or someone else. And he started to.

[m>s]

Went to the fun range yesterday, thought I'd let y'all know.

[cantthinkofanything]

Went to the fun range yesterday, thought I'd let y'all know.

did you shoosted anyone?

[CosmicCowboy]

Went to the fun range yesterday, thought I'd let y'all know.

My benches at the ranch. Have 50 foot, 50 yard, 100 yard, 150 yard, and 200 yard target frames.

http://i57.tinypic.com/167ml1f.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/6sfds9.jpg

[Trill Clinton]

Went to the fun range yesterday, thought I'd let y'all know.


the panthers were in dallas yesterday, strapped to the tee. i also heard dallas had a big protest going on. where were you at?

[vy65]

the panthers were in dallas yesterday, strapped to the tee. i also heard dallas had a big protest going on. where were you at?

Why weren't they in Ferguson?

[Trill Clinton]

Why weren't they in Ferguson?

they were there too lol


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[vy65]

they were there too lol


CHICAGO, August 19, 2014 — Marie Chappelle-Nadal, a Democratic Missouri State senator, says that the people of Ferguson are reporting that protests are filled “with anarchists from the New Black Panther party” who are inciting peaceful protestors to attack the police.

http://www.commdiginews.com/news-2/malik-zulu-shabazz-as-fergusons-agitator-not-peace-maker-24213/#jE2T96BCMAd8G4OA.99

lol

[vy65]

I'm not seeing any of the guns/all black gear? Why'd they leave that in Dallas?

[Trill Clinton]

I'm not seeing any of the guns/all black gear? Why'd they leave that in Dallas?

not all black panther groups wear all black gear and carry guns, slugger.

[Trill Clinton]

another eyewitness account


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63OGwHejtCQ#t=297

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcGwCnMN2Bc

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which was what?The one preceding it.


I asked which particular one you watched.

You are shutting down for no reason.I don't feel like chumming up the thread with any more bullshit so this will be the last from me unless you want to discuss something new.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.commdiginews.com/news-2/malik-zulu-shabazz-as-fergusons-agitator-not-peace-maker-24213/#jE2T96BCMAd8G4OA.99

lol


lol

http://rebelpundit.com/brown-family-to-panther-malik-shabaz-stop-instigating-and-leave-ferguson/

"He told me the family wants Malik Shabazz to leave. He finds him an instigator and two ministers today asked Shabazz to leave as well.
Shabazz has positioned himself as a peacemaker, that he’s putting himself on the front lines trying to protect citizens from law enforcement. But the family of Michele Brown believes he’s instigating and is hijacking the real meaning of what the peaceful protesters are out here to do."

[pgardn]

lol

http://rebelpundit.com/brown-family-to-panther-malik-shabaz-stop-instigating-and-leave-ferguson/

"He told me the family wants Malik Shabazz to leave. He finds him an instigator and two ministers today asked Shabazz to leave as well.
Shabazz has positioned himself as a peacemaker, that he’s putting himself on the front lines trying to protect citizens from law enforcement. But the family of Michele Brown believes he’s instigating and is hijacking the real meaning of what the peaceful protesters are out here to do."

Everyone wants their face in the picture.
Meanwhile, her son is dead.
No shame whatsoever.

[ChumpDumper]

The one preceding it.If you don't' remember what it was, it isn't important to you.


I don't feel like chumming up the thread with any more bullshit so this will be the last from me unless you want to discuss something new.Well, we all know you are shutting down. Next time just post the link, bitch,.

[boutons_deux]

When The Media Treats White Suspects And Killers Better Than Black Victimshttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/media-black-victims_n_5673291.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[Trill Clinton]

When The Media Treats White Suspects And Killers Better Than Black Victims

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/media-black-victims_n_5673291.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular


inherently evil.

[boutons_deux]

Another was 22-year-old John Crawford III (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/08/3469457/man-shot-dead-by-police-in-wal-mart-was-carrying-bb-gun-he-picked-up-in-the-toy-aisle-officials-say/), shot inside a Wal-Mart while carrying a BB gun he picked up in the toy aisle of the store.

Police said Crawford was waving the rifle at customers, but Crawford’s lawyer said (http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/2014/08/attorney-michael-wright-talks-about-the-killing-of-an-ohio-man-who-was-shopping-in-walmart-and-gunned-down-by-police/) store surveillance video shows Crawford was just holding the BB gun he likely intended to buy.

The lawyer, Michael Wright, was shown several minutes from the store’s surveillance video this week and said the video makes clear that Wright was minding his own business when police arrived at the store. Wrighttold Ronald Martin (http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/2014/08/attorney-michael-wright-talks-about-the-killing-of-an-ohio-man-who-was-shopping-in-walmart-and-gunned-down-by-police/) on his podcast the BB gun was “out of the package just sitting there on the shelf” when Crawford picked it up.

“At this point we believe that he was purchasing the air gun,” he said.

The model of BB gun Crawford was holding, known as a variable air pump rifle, is designed for target-shooting and small game-hunting but designed to look like a real, more deadly weapon. It’s not clear whether officers knew it was a BB gun.

Wright said Crawford walked from one aisle to another while he was on his cell phone having a conversation.

The police were called by a customer in the store who reported someone wielding a gun. “When the police came … the BB gun was in a down position,” Wright said.

“He was kinda using the BB gun as what it looked like was a crutch. He was just leaning on it. And at some point, he raised it up and he was shot and killed.

At no point in time was he facing the officers.

At no point in time was there any type of suggestive movements or anything like that.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/21/3474119/one-of-the-two-officers-who-killed-a-man-in-wal-mart-is-back-to-work/

... if he were white, he'd be alive.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcGwCnMN2Bc


Wow he's writing a check for $100 to ALS. That's awfully generous.

[cantthinkofanything]

Another was 22-year-old John Crawford III (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/08/3469457/man-shot-dead-by-police-in-wal-mart-was-carrying-bb-gun-he-picked-up-in-the-toy-aisle-officials-say/), shot inside a Wal-Mart while carrying a BB gun he picked up in the toy aisle of the store.

Police said Crawford was waving the rifle at customers, but Crawford’s lawyer said (http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/2014/08/attorney-michael-wright-talks-about-the-killing-of-an-ohio-man-who-was-shopping-in-walmart-and-gunned-down-by-police/) store surveillance video shows Crawford was just holding the BB gun he likely intended to buy.

The lawyer, Michael Wright, was shown several minutes from the store’s surveillance video this week and said the video makes clear that Wright was minding his own business when police arrived at the store. Wrighttold Ronald Martin (http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/2014/08/attorney-michael-wright-talks-about-the-killing-of-an-ohio-man-who-was-shopping-in-walmart-and-gunned-down-by-police/) on his podcast the BB gun was “out of the package just sitting there on the shelf” when Crawford picked it up.

“At this point we believe that he was purchasing the air gun,” he said.

The model of BB gun Crawford was holding, known as a variable air pump rifle, is designed for target-shooting and small game-hunting but designed to look like a real, more deadly weapon. It’s not clear whether officers knew it was a BB gun.

Wright said Crawford walked from one aisle to another while he was on his cell phone having a conversation.

The police were called by a customer in the store who reported someone wielding a gun. “When the police came … the BB gun was in a down position,” Wright said.

“He was kinda using the BB gun as what it looked like was a crutch. He was just leaning on it. And at some point, he raised it up and he was shot and killed.

At no point in time was he facing the officers.

At no point in time was there any type of suggestive movements or anything like that.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/21/3474119/one-of-the-two-officers-who-killed-a-man-in-wal-mart-is-back-to-work/

... if he were white, he'd be alive.




bullshit...if he was white and holding this bb gun, the first though would probably be, "mass murderer" and they'd take him down just as fast.

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/airgundepot/h-k-mp5-k-pdw-semi-auto-steel-bb-gun-22.gif

[Trill Clinton]

Wow he's writing a check for $100 to ALS. That's awfully generous.

wow, you have got to be trolling.

[DarrinS]

wow, you have got to be trolling.

$100 is what someone of my means would donate.

[cantthinkofanything]

$100 is what someone of my means would donate.

yeah...but you're not doing that to hundreds of organizations are you? We're just talking about Orlando Jones.

http://en.mediamass.net/people/orlando-jones/highest-paid.html

[DarrinS]

yeah...but you're not doing that to hundreds of organizations are you? We're just talking about Orlando Jones.

http://en.mediamass.net/people/orlando-jones/highest-paid.html



I guess that 7up money only goes so far.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If you don't' remember what it was, it isn't important to you.

Well, we all know you are shutting down. Next time just post the link, bitch,.Is this the appropriate time for lol raging?

[TheSanityAnnex]

The statistics are racist

Indeed.

Snip

Perhaps it’s time to finally concede that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and their fellow civil-rights crusaders have apparently been correct all along: There is indeed a whole lot of racism in America that just won’t go away. It may be time to admit that Sharpton is justified in so passionately condemning the recent police “execution” of Michael Brown in Missouri—calling it a “defining moment” for our country, a moment where the nation itself, with all its weighty, racist baggage, “is on trial.”

The numbers, after all, don’t lie. During the most recent five-year period for which single-offender, interracial crime statistics are available, whites committed, on average, 65,923 assaults annually against black victims.[1] To frame it another way, 33.5 of every 100,000 whites in the U.S. assaulted a black victim at some point during each of those five years.

Oh, sure, the nitpickers will point out that during the same five-year period, blacks in the U.S. committed, on average, some 327,900 assaults annually against whites—meaning that about 898 of every 100,000 blacks nationwide assaulted a white victim at some point each year. In other words, statistically the average black was nearly 27 times more likely to assault a white, than vice versa—898 versus 33.5 (out of every 100,000).

But therein is the heart of the problem, though you may have missed it: The white-on-black assault rate may be low, but it isn’t absolute zero. And as our modern-day civil rights leaders dutifully teach us, anything more than zero means, ultimately, that “we still have a long way to go” before we can finally get past our country’s “troubled racial past.” Any white-on-black incident—however rare it may be—automatically becomes the exception that proves the rule. Get it?

We find similar bountiful evidence of white racism in other statistics as well. During the same five-year period, whites committed, on average, 2,738 robberies annually against black victims. In other words, about 1.4 out of every 100,000 whites in the U.S. robbed a black victim each year.

Meanwhile, 70,302 blacks annually robbed white victims—a rate of 192.4 per 100,000. Statistically the average black was 137 times more likely to rob interracially than the average white—192.4 versus 1.4 (out of every 100,000).[2]

Once again, we must bear in mind that any white-on-black crime total exceeding zero means that the hearts of too many whites still percolate with secret, racist longings to return to “the good-ol’ days” of lynchings and Jim Crow. Make sense?

But if you really want your blood to boil, consider the stats on interracial sex crimes. During the same five-year period, black offenders were responsible for about 22,980 actual and threatened sexual assaults annually against white victims. By contrast, the number of white-on-black incidents of the same description were so infinitesimal that, in each of those five years, whites were estimated to have accounted for 0.0% of all sexual assaults—actual or threatened—against black victims in the United States.

Such a statistic, of course, runs the dangerous risk of persuading shallow thinkers to wrongly conclude that maybe America’s streets and alleyways aren’t filled with hordes of white racists poised to abuse black women whenever they get an opportunity. But thankfully, we have deep thinkers and keen-eyed social critics like Al Sharpton to shine the light of truth on white sex offenders, even where a white-dominated criminal-justice apparatus turns a blind eye.

Remember, for instance, how Sharpton helped us all become aware of Tawana Brawley’s brutal gang-rape at the hands of white supremacists in 1987? Oh sure, the nitpickers again will moan that the whole thing was one big lie. But don’t ever forget: The only thing that prevented young Tawana from actually being raped by a pack of Klansmen was the fact that … well, no one raped her or even attempted to. But apart from that, everything Sharpton said about the case was true.

We must also thank Mr. Sharpton for having alerted us all to the horrors of the “rich white boys” on the Duke University lacrosse team who gang-raped a black stripper in 2006. Sure, it turned out to be another hoax that dragged several innocent young men through a cesspool of pain and public humiliation—but hey, the noble quest for racial justice is bound to spit out a few collateral victims every now and then. No omelet can be made without breaking an egg or two.

Murder stats likewise bring into stark relief the white racism that continues to infest our nation. In 2012, for example, 6,454 blacks in the U.S. were victims of homicide. Some 91% of those were killed by other blacks, and 9% were killed by everybody else, including whites. It’s unlikely that whites were responsible for any more than about 3% of all black deaths by homicide. But these were the most significant and troubling 3%, don’t ya know? The other 97% of victims can all rot in their graves, but these—ah, these—were the cream of the crop, just like Michael Brown.

In light of the numbers cited above, perhaps you can find it in your heart to be sympathetic to Al, Jesse, and similar proverbial skunks who are forever seeking out the next picnic where they can show up and spray the potato salad. They have to make the most of Ferguson, you see, because golden opportunities like that just don’t come around very often

[m>s]

did you shoosted anyone?
Yeah this orange silhouette kept staring at me, I shot him real good

My benches at the ranch. Have 50 foot, 50 yard, 100 yard, 150 yard, and 200 yard target frames.

http://i57.tinypic.com/167ml1f.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/6sfds9.jpg
Cool set up dude beats paying money every time on top of the outrageous ammo prices

the panthers were in dallas yesterday, strapped to the tee. i also heard dallas had a big protest going on. where were you at?
Didn't want a coon to try to shoot me holding the gun backwards and me get sued

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah this orange silhouette kept staring at me, I shot him real good

Cool set up dude beats paying money every time on top of the outrageous ammo prices

Didn't want a coon to try to shoot me holding the gun backwards and me get sued

Best thing is just having it nice and quiet while sighting in rifles...Don't have some urban Rambo next to me blasting away. When you get into 1/4 and 1/2MOA rifles the trigger squeeze is critical.

[boutons_deux]

Elementary teacher suspended for asking white student ‘cops’ to shoot black ‘Michael Browns’

A sixth-grade teacher at Brantley Elementary in Selma, Alabama has been placed on administrative leave after a parent reported that students were asked to research and reenact the Michael Brown shooting in class, The Selma Times-Journal reports (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/2014/08/20/brantley-teacher-suspended-after-allegedly-instructing-students-to-reenact-shooting/).

The administration became aware of the assignment after Jessica Lynn Baughn posted (https://www.facebook.com/groups/129653480475891/permalink/660786974029203/%22) about it on Facebook. “His teacher made them reenact the two current shooting of the young black males,” she wrote. “The white students had to play the police officer. She even has them get on the internet and research how many times the young man was shot where he was shot at.”

“That is absurd to me then you turn around and make them reenact every bit of it including the shooting,” she continued. “Then sit in class and tells them our black children can not walk in their own neighborhood without white people shooting them and she hated to sound racist but whatever.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/elementary-teacher-suspended-for-asking-white-student-cops-to-shoot-black-michael-browns/

Sounds like racist Alabama, like Texas, scrapes the bottom of the barrel for teachers and trains them so well!

[Infinite_limit]

Elementary teacher suspended for asking white student ‘cops’ to shoot black ‘Michael Browns’

A sixth-grade teacher at Brantley Elementary in Selma, Alabama has been placed on administrative leave after a parent reported that students were asked to research and reenact the Michael Brown shooting in class, The Selma Times-Journal reports (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/2014/08/20/brantley-teacher-suspended-after-allegedly-instructing-students-to-reenact-shooting/).

The administration became aware of the assignment after Jessica Lynn Baughn posted (https://www.facebook.com/groups/129653480475891/permalink/660786974029203/%22) about it on Facebook. “His teacher made them reenact the two current shooting of the young black males,” she wrote. “The white students had to play the police officer. She even has them get on the internet and research how many times the young man was shot where he was shot at.”

“That is absurd to me then you turn around and make them reenact every bit of it including the shooting,” she continued. “Then sit in class and tells them our black children can not walk in their own neighborhood without white people shooting them and she hated to sound racist but whatever.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/elementary-teacher-suspended-for-asking-white-student-cops-to-shoot-black-michael-browns/

Sounds like racist Alabama, like Texas, scrapes the bottom of the barrel for teachers and trains them so well!



American schools are Liberal

[Trill Clinton]

reports came out yesterday that the broken orbital bone storyline was also a liehttp://i58.tinypic.com/rvk8jc.png

[Trill Clinton]

Elementary teacher suspended for asking white student ‘cops’ to shoot black ‘Michael Browns’

A sixth-grade teacher at Brantley Elementary in Selma, Alabama has been placed on administrative leave after a parent reported that students were asked to research and reenact the Michael Brown shooting in class, The Selma Times-Journal reports (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/2014/08/20/brantley-teacher-suspended-after-allegedly-instructing-students-to-reenact-shooting/).

The administration became aware of the assignment after Jessica Lynn Baughn posted (https://www.facebook.com/groups/129653480475891/permalink/660786974029203/%22) about it on Facebook. “His teacher made them reenact the two current shooting of the young black males,” she wrote. “The white students had to play the police officer. She even has them get on the internet and research how many times the young man was shot where he was shot at.”

“That is absurd to me then you turn around and make them reenact every bit of it including the shooting,” she continued. “Then sit in class and tells them our black children can not walk in their own neighborhood without white people shooting them and she hated to sound racist but whatever.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/elementary-teacher-suspended-for-asking-white-student-cops-to-shoot-black-michael-browns/

Sounds like racist Alabama, like Texas, scrapes the bottom of the barrel for teachers and trains them so well!




inherently

[boutons_deux]

reports came out yesterday that the broken orbital bone storyline was also a liehttp://i58.tinypic.com/rvk8jc.png

the lies and fog about who did what are expected, but the cops lying about a facial injury, broken bones for which prosecution would demand medical report is just crazy ignorant, at best 100% incompetent.

if the facial injury was a lie, plus the smearing of Brown, adds up to the cops really really really covering up Brown's murderer.

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFtXG4fC5A#t=47

Sgt. Major Dan Page has some strongly-held beliefs, which contradict claims that race isn't an issue with St. Louis police.

Sgt. Major Dan Page sees things in black and white. Them and us. Good and evil. There are no grays, there is no nuance. He is good. You are evil unless you believe, like he does, that all men being created equal does not mean affirmative action is good, or that black men fall into the realm of all men.
He was the guy that shocked me with his disrespect as he shoved CNN's Don Lemon (http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/08/cnns-don-lemon-pushed-police-during) around a couple of days ago.

Here is Mr. Page ranting for the benefit of what appears to be a group of Oathkeepers. Lots of anti-Obama, anti-government rhetoric tossed as red meat. Also, Mr. Page is a former Army Ranger Green Beret. *

I've posted the entire video for now, but I'll try and mash up some of the better clips from it and post it later.
Thanks to Democratic Underground's user 951-Riverside (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017210685) for the video and the bullet points:

1:07: Talks about all men being created equal then went on to say "That does not mean affirmative action".
1:26: Rants about hate crime laws
3:22: Black (little?) Perverts
5:25: Talks about doing a fair share of killing
15:40: Calls supreme court justice a homosexual sodomite.
18:30 "If I die I go to heaven... I died a long time ago"
20:30: Talks about St. Louis County schools
26:40: Calls President Obama an illegal alien
27:00: We can kill you anyway we want
31:38: Goes on anti-muslim rant
37:00: Talks about being a Saint Louis County Cop
43:00: Talk about killing people again
46:41: Goes on rant over being briefed about the 9/11 attacks on Aug 1st 1999 then says 9/11 happened 30 days later also talks about no weapons of mass destruction being found in Afghanistan.
49:22: Continues rant about having secret clearance at Fort (Leavenworth?) and training with Russian spetsnaz
52:40: Says people involved in domestic violence should "just shoot each other and get it over with".
53:15: Somebody like me is going to come in and kill you
56:20: I don't trust nobody and I hate everybody. I hate y'all too I hate everybody. I'm into diversity. I kill everybody.
58:02: Audience member: So what happens when good men like you are retiring from the military. What kind of military do we have left then?
58:15: Sodomites and females. End of statement.
1:01:00: Rants about female green beret
1:03:00 He's handed an oathkeeper patch



this case has nothing to do with race. not even the racist cops in charge of keeping the peacehttp://i57.tinypic.com/24q76gn.png

[cantthinkofanything]

reports came out yesterday that the broken orbital bone storyline was also a liehttp://i58.tinypic.com/rvk8jc.png


I don't think it was a lie. Seems like assumption or speculation based on Wilson's face being swollen. He was taken to the hospital and X-rayed. The X-rays were submitted and will be shared with Grand Jury. Wheter or not it was actually broken is irreleavant if they can prove that Brown beat up coppers face.

But yeah, that Dan Page sounds like a piece of shit and anything he touched should be reviewed in light of his "character".

Hopefully, enough facts will come out to determine if the cop shot a surrendering man or if he shot an aggressor.

Unfortunately, I can see it landing somewhere in the middle and leading to mistrust from both sides.

[pgardn]

American schools are Liberal

Using the Nazi frame of reference (relativity don't cha know), they are radical.

[boutons_deux]

bullshit...if he was white and holding this bb gun, the first though would probably be, "mass murderer" and they'd take him down just as fast.

bullshit. Walking across the parking lot and into the store with one of these, yes, anybody would be confronted, disarmed, or killed.

but somehow this black guy was only discovered in the middle of the store with one of these? He was black, he never had a chance.

[cantthinkofanything]

bullshit. Walking across the parking lot and into the store with one of these, yes, anybody would be confronted, disarmed, or killed.

but somehow this black guy was only discovered in the middle of the store with one of these? He was black, he never had a chance.

if you look up at the camera and see someone carrying around what looks like an automatic weapon I think there is cause for alarm. Maybe he didn't walk in the front door with it. It's possible that he came in through the loading dock or dropped down from the ceiling. But you don't have time to check all the security cameras. This is exactly whey I think they should allow their employees to carry guns. Or at least the greeters and management.

[boutons_deux]

if you look up at the camera and see someone carrying around what looks like an automatic weapon I think there is cause for alarm. Maybe he didn't walk in the front door with it. It's possible that he came in through the loading dock or dropped down from the ceiling. But you don't have time to check all the security cameras. This is exactly whey I think they should allow their employees to carry guns. Or at least the greeters and management.

and NOBODY saw him and his automatic weapon until he was in the middle of the store, yeah, right. He's was black, he deserved to be murdered.

Now if only you white-boy gun fellators had been walking around with your AR15s so people would get accustomed.

[cantthinkofanything]

and NOBODY saw him and his automatic weapon until he was in the middle of the store, yeah, right. He's was black, he deserved to be murdered.

Now if only you white-boy gun fellators had been walking around with your AR15s so people would get accustomed.

It could easily have been planted for him by an accomplice. Again, we just don't know.

[RandomGuy]

I don't think it was a lie. Seems like assumption or speculation based on Wilson's face being swollen. He was taken to the hospital and X-rayed. The X-rays were submitted and will be shared with Grand Jury. Wheter or not it was actually broken is irreleavant if they can prove that Brown beat up coppers face.

But yeah, that Dan Page sounds like a piece of shit and anything he touched should be reviewed in light of his "character".

Hopefully, enough facts will come out to determine if the cop shot a surrendering man or if he shot an aggressor.

Unfortunately, I can see it landing somewhere in the middle and leading to mistrust from both sides.

Sadly, the "middle" tends to be where the truth actually lies a lot of the time, especially in more charged cases like this one.

[boutons_deux]

The Staggeringly High—And Shockingly Under-Reported—Rate of White on White Murder


Why oh why is no one commenting on the insanely high rate of of white on white murder? Bill O'Reilly? Joe Klein (https://time.com/3153340/beyond-a-simple-solution-for-ferguson/), of Time magazine, who devotes his whole column to write this week on black on black murder, in response to Ferguson? Anybody? Because bringing up the canard of black on black crime whenever a white man kills a black man is just how the right-wing—and apparently the mainstream—media rolls.

Note to smug white racists: Take a look at the real numbers. According to the FBI's most recent homicide statistics (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6), Vox.com reports (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053811/white-on-white-murder), "the United States is in the wake of an epidemic of white-on-white crime. Back in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians.

36 percent of those killed by whites are women, a far higher percentage than what you see with murderers who are black.

The beginning of an answer is to admit that we have a problem. It's striking that President Obama, who's frequently found time to comment on the height of black men's waistlines (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-to-mtv-br/), seems oblivious to this torrent of white killing. To be fair to the White House, however, it would be uniquely difficult for Obama (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6031197/obama-ferguson-race-speech) to address this delicate issue.

The real tragedy is that none of Obama's 43 white predecessors have addressed it either. Indeed, looking back on America's political iconography, there are disturbing trends toward the glorification of white violence. Peer inside the US Capitol building, and you'll find a monument to Confederate President Jefferson Davis (http://www.aoc.gov/capitol-hill/national-statuary-hall-collection/jefferson-davis) — the leader of an insurgency that caused an unprecedented quantity of violent white deaths.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/staggeringly-high-and-shockingly-under-reported-rate-white-white-murder?akid=12157.187590.xH0U7r&rd=1&src=newsletter1016507&t=3

black on black crime! HORRIBLE they're ALL animals, go back to Africa.

white on white crime? yawn

Murder and gun violence is as American as financial sector corruption

[cantthinkofanything]

Sadly, the "middle" tends to be where the truth actually lies a lot of the time, especially in more charged cases like this one.

I agree with you and I don't see anything to indicate this won't as well. I truly believe that the large % of people want to see justice done regardless of how the shooting went down. But with incidents that fall in the middle, things seem to be split based on race and politics.

[Winehole23]

The Economist reported (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/08/armed-police) last week, in an article on armed U.S. police, that “last year, in total, British police officers actually fired their weapons three times.” The number three resonated when the private autopsy of Michael Brown (http://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-brown-survived-shots-shot-killed/story?id=25017247), the teenager killed by Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson this month, concluded that Brown was shot at least six times. Many (https://twitter.com/elizabethlittle/status/501463393358721025) tweets (https://twitter.com/RadioBabe/status/501791050185576448) contrasted (https://twitter.com/jenny8lee/status/501554791655669760) the (https://twitter.com/jane__bradley/status/501687120348852224) numbers (https://twitter.com/misshumanrights/status/501723189123502080), saying Wilson had fired more shots at Brown than British police officers discharged in all of 2013.http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/police-in-england-and-wales-went-two-years-without-fatally-shooting-someone/

[cantthinkofanything]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/police-in-england-and-wales-went-two-years-without-fatally-shooting-someone/

wow...that is shocking

Would you also believe that in the small Chinese village of Quansoon (pop. 17), more Chinese is spoken than in the entire United States?!?!!??!

[DarrinS]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/police-in-england-and-wales-went-two-years-without-fatally-shooting-someone/

"most officers there aren’t allowed to carry guns"

[boutons_deux]

Exposing Gateway Pundit’s Dishonesty: He Altered a CT Scan Image to Trick His Readers


Here’s another follow-up to my article about Jim Hoft’s dishonest tactics (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43751_Jim_Hofts_Unsourced_Claim_That_Officer_Darre n_Wilson_Had_an_Orbital_Blowout_Fracture_of_the_Ey e_Socket) in promoting his bogus claim (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43758_CNN_Reports__Ferguson_PD_Officer_Darren_Wils on_DID_NOT_Have_a_Fractured_Eye_Socket) that officer Darren Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in a purported struggle with teenager Michael Brown.

As I pointed out in the earlier piece (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43751_Jim_Hofts_Unsourced_Claim_That_Officer_Darre n_Wilson_Had_an_Orbital_Blowout_Fracture_of_the_Ey e_Socket), Hoft posted a stock image of a CT scan of a fractured eye socket, but apparently erased the words “UNIV OF IOWA” from his copy of the image.

Well, thanks to LGF readers @franklinftw (https://twitter.com/franklinftw/with_replies) and @loveheylola (https://twitter.com/loveheylola/with_replies), I can now remove the word “apparently” from that description, because we have proof that Hoft (or someone who works with him) did indeed alter that CT scan, almost certainly to mislead people into believing it was an image of officer Darren Wilson. (And he was successful in fooling many right wingers, including Ann Coulter (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43757_Ann_Coulter_Takes_Jim_Hofts_Misleading_Bait_ Says_We_Saw_X-Ray_of_Wilsons_Fractured_Eye_Socket).)

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43759_Exposing_Gateway_Pundits_Dishonesty-_He_Altered_a_CT_Scan_Image_to_Trick_His_Readers

http://24.media.tumblr.com/728b26c40c47747528aa44083c9ac3a3/tumblr_mg16xqyNz21qa1kkvo1_500.gif

[Winehole23]

"most officers there aren’t allowed to carry guns"yet they manage to keep the peace in a dangerous world. I wonder how they do it.

[boutons_deux]

yet they manage to keep the peace in a dangerous world. I wonder how they do it.

Very probably tight gun regulations and MUCH MUCH less than 1 gun per each 64M Great Britain residents.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/25/gun-ownership-firearms-certificates

The gun industry/NRA/GOA have lied about "2nd Amendment rights", duping the dickless gun fellators, to sell 300M+ guns in USA, with Ms of guns very probably in criminal or other wrong hands.

In USA, corporate profits ALWAYS trump everything else.

[pgardn]

yet they manage to keep the peace in a dangerous world. I wonder how they do it.

Well there were the Tottenham riots 2011.

But the gun thing is easy. Their citizens basically don't have guns. Most police don't need to carry.

[m>s]

Trill...when are you going to realize that NO ONE CARES? literally EVERYONE hates n!gg3rs not just whites...when the be@ners take over this country it's going to be even worse without the white guilt they're already murdering you guys and running you out of historically black cities like compton. asians HATE n!gg3rs..indians hate n!gg3rs...hell even other n!gg3rs hate and kill n!gg3rs....maybe you should man up you little bitch and stop fucking whining. it's YOUR fault you're so fucking shitty. nobody owes you a motherfucking thing, got it? as soon as you drill that into your thick skull things will be a lot better for you.

[boutons_deux]

Well there were the Tottenham riots 2011.

how many rioters were shot dead?

[pgardn]

how many rioters were shot dead?

None.

But a fireman putting out a fire almost got beaten to death by a crowd wanting to see a building burn.
How many rioters have died in Ferguson?

[Winehole23]

Well there were the Tottenham riots 2011.

But the gun thing is easy. Their citizens basically don't have guns. Most police don't need to carry.short of disarming the populace and the police, there may be effective lessons in deescalation for us.

[boutons_deux]

Deputy chief tells Fox: Solution to over-militarization of police is painting tanks blue
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/25/deputy-chief-tells-fox-solution-to-over-militarization-of-police-is-painting-tanks-blue/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

WATCH: SC police beat man in Walmart as horrified shoppers beg officers to stophttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/25/watch-sc-police-beat-man-in-walmart-as-horrified-shoppers-beg-officers-to-stop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Ferguson Police Profiling of Blacks a Major Funding Source for City Budget


Police singling out black commuters and residents is twice and sometimes three times more likely than their white neighbors. Once pulled over or stopped by the police, black residents are typically searched without warrants, fined, and/or arrested. Of the 60 municipalities surveyed in the report, Ferguson was among the three worst counties for vehicle stops and petty fines targeting black residents.

We decided to focus on three courts where we saw the most egregious examples.

And that was Bel-Ridge, Ferguson, and Florissant. And when we looked at their budgets, it completely supported what our clients were saying.

Ferguson budgets predicts that it will earn in revenue $2.65 million from court costs and fines per year.

And that number has increased steadily from 2010 to 2013. So Florissant is the neighboring municipality, and it estimates it'll bring in another--I think it's $1.5 million or $1.6 million net off of these fines.

So you've got two municipalities right next door to one another who've got over $4 million in fines that are being brought in, generally derived from traffic tickets.

I want to be clear. These aren't felonies. These aren't violent infractions. These are the lowest level possible contact with the criminal justice system. You can get tickets in these courts for not cutting your grass.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25785-ferguson-police-profiling-of-blacks-a-major-funding-source-for-city-budget

[boutons_deux]

http://images.dailykos.com/images/102020/large/Screen_Shot_2014-08-25_at_2.25.38_AM.jpg?1408950046

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/25/1324389/-Has-the-MSM-Just-Decimated-Darren-Wilson-and-the-Entire-Ferguson-Police-Department?detail=email#

[TheSanityAnnex]

:downspin:iGTUcS-yQtQ:downspin:

[pgardn]

short of disarming the populace and the police, there may be effective lessons in deescalation for us.

The Tottenham riots caused much more damage and spread violently to other areas, even Manchester.
They both lasted a while. ts not clear who should learn what from whom imo.

[spurraider21]

:downspin:iGTUcS-yQtQ:downspin:
this dude claims in 2010 there were zero white on black rapes and violent robberies :lol

[boutons_deux]

this dude claims in 2010 there were zero white on black rapes and violent robberies :lol

Repugs, tea baggers, conservatives live in ideological bullshit, fact-free fantasyland.

[Trill Clinton]

some photos from the town hall meeting and mike's funeral.

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504076639978807297

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the pic of mike's father crying got to me. i can't imagine the pain of losing a child of senseless violence, especially at the hands of a police officer.

[Trill Clinton]

unarmed. killed by cops. cops get off thanks to the blue shield.

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[Trill Clinton]

audio released, 11 shotshttp://i60.tinypic.com/24cw5rt.png

[DarrinS]

audio released, 11 shotshttp://i60.tinypic.com/24cw5rt.png

Must have missed him several times

[boutons_deux]

Must have missed him several times

and "home defenders", surprised and in the dark, really think they can reliably kill invaders. Cops, on the initiative, in daylight, often miss 50% of their shots

[cantthinkofanything]

and "home defenders", surprised and in the dark, really think they can reliably kill invaders. Cops, on the initiative, in daylight, often miss 50% of their shots

have you heard of Threat Neutralization Training?

[boutons_deux]

gun fellatin bureucratic, pompous, self-important gobbledygook

[Trill Clinton]

donations for darrin wilson have now topped $400k. dude is cashing in on the white supremacy lottery. most of those donating are doing so under anonymous...scared to use their real name. he hasn't even been charged but people are giving him money because he killed someone. inherently evil.

[boutons_deux]

donations for darrin wilson have now topped $400k. dude is cashing in on the white supremacy lottery. most of those donating are doing so under anonymous...scared to use their real name. he hasn't even been charged but people are giving him money because he killed someone. inherently evil.

white paranoia and white/Christian persecution fantasies are great business opportunities.

[vy65]

this dude claims in 2010 there were zero white on black rapes and violent robberies :lol

I couldn't find anything from 2010, but the Bureau of Justice Statistics' 2008 report shows that the amount of white on black rape was statistically insignificant/0.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf

It's table 42.

I'm not a statistician, don't know anything about methodology, etc... so take this with a grain of salt.

[TheSanityAnnex]

this dude claims in 2010 there were zero white on black rapes and violent robberies :lolPretty sure he just said there were so few they were statistically insignificant.


edit* beat by vy65

[TheSanityAnnex]

Repugs, tea baggers, conservatives live in ideological bullshit, fact-free fantasyland.

Feel free to refute his claims. I see trill has no comment.

[Winehole23]

The Tottenham riots caused much more damage and spread violently to other areas, even Manchester.
They both lasted a while. ts not clear who should learn what from whom imo.there are always lessons to be learned for those willing to learn.

[CosmicCowboy]

there are always lessons to be learned for those willing to learn.

http://parallax-view.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kung_fu.jpg

Ahh glasshopper...beware of hanging by your testicles...

[boutons_deux]

Jon Stewart DESTROYS the Fox assholes

http://wonkette.com/558402/jon-stewart-returns-fixes-ferguson-and-everything-else-video

[TheSanityAnnex]

:downspin:iGTUcS-yQtQ:downspin:
Boutons I'm still waiting for you to dissect this racist rednecks video and prove him wrong

[boutons_deux]

Boutons I'm still waiting for you to dissect this racist rednecks video and prove him wrong

6:19 of shit? set up the main points and I'll knock them down

[Trill Clinton]

Jon Stewart DESTROYS the Fox assholes

http://wonkette.com/558402/jon-stewart-returns-fixes-ferguson-and-everything-else-video

owned

[TheSanityAnnex]

6:19 of shit? set up the main points and I'll knock them down

You are spamming articles here non-stop, I'm sure you can spare 6 mins of the day and watch for yourself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

owned

I'd like your thoughts on the video as well, stop ducking it.

[boutons_deux]

You are spamming articles here non-stop, I'm sure you can spare 6 mins of the day and watch for yourself.

nope, fuck all right wing assholes, Repugs, etc, etc.

Just YOU waste your time to write it out, I'll enjoy destroying it.

[vy65]

What a fucking coward

[TheSanityAnnex]

nope, fuck all right wing assholes, Repugs, etc, etc.

Just YOU waste your time to write it out, I'll enjoy destroying it.

I watch all your Jon Stewart videos even though I think he's a faggot. Stop being a coward, watch the video and prove him wrong.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lmao the Jon Stewart video you posted is a featured video on Whittle's page.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/author/bill-whittle

[CosmicCowboy]

audio released, 11 shotshttp://i60.tinypic.com/24cw5rt.png

CNN now shits backwards and questions reliability of it's own audio. Typical CNN being CNN.

But hey Trill...keep on believin...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/08/27/cnn-commentators-doubt-cnn-ferguson-audio-scoop/

[Trill Clinton]

CNN now shits backwards and questions reliability of it's own audio. Typical CNN being CNN.

But hey Trill...keep on believin...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/08/27/cnn-commentators-doubt-cnn-ferguson-audio-scoop/


i will. they also have video but only released audio.

you just keep believing the cop had a broken orbital bone:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

i will. they also have video but only released audio.

you just keep believing the cop had a broken orbital bone:lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[boutons_deux]

I watch all your Jon Stewart videos even though I think he's a faggot. Stop being a coward, watch the video and prove him wrong.

good for you, JS is winning, good stuff

your right wing shit is losing garbage. All right wing shit is pure garbage, lies, coporate/VRWC/1% propaganda, blind ideological shit totally destroyed by all contrary evidence.

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

you do know fbi spoke with the owner of the video and his attorney, right? its official


broken orbital bone:lol