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Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:12 AM
Shouldn't they be there to protect those oppressed citizens from the evil government?

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:12 AM
Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.

DarrinS
08-14-2014, 11:16 AM
bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:21 AM
bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety

A group of people being subjected to excessive force by the government. Where are the militias to defend these poor souls?

JoeTait75
08-14-2014, 11:23 AM
Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.

Why should they?

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:24 AM
Why should they?

Why did they care so much about a rich white mooching cattle rancher?

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:25 AM
rich white

nevermind, answered my own question.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2014, 11:26 AM
A group of people being subjected to excessive force by the government. Where are the militias to defend these poor souls?

They are too busy securing our borders.

Spurminator
08-14-2014, 11:30 AM
bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety

They're black so they must be doing something illegal.

You'd be a great cop.

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:36 AM
They are too busy securing our borders.

i.e. doing Rick Perry's bidding. I guess all they need in Missouri is a rich white guy to give the order, then Ferguson would be flooded with "don't tread on me" flags.

JoeTait75
08-14-2014, 11:41 AM
Why did they care so much about a rich white mooching cattle rancher?

Most anti-government types are also white. People tend to empathize more and identify more with people that look like them and share their values. Pretty simple, tbh.

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 11:46 AM
Most anti-government types are also white

:lmao

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 11:47 AM
:lmao

why you laugh at that?

angrydude
08-14-2014, 12:09 PM
This has only been going on for 5 days. It takes time to travel.

angrydude
08-14-2014, 12:16 PM
And at least blacks in Ferguson had the balls to react to police brutality. Police murder people all the time but whites are too scared to go out and do anything about it. Honestly, after what I've seen of the local police there, I'm extremely inclined to believe the shooting went down exactly like the locals say it did.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 12:21 PM
right-wing Bundy white assholes threatens federal agents with rifles. nothing happens (so far)

a unarmed black gets shot 8 times, cop is protected.

btw, the Ferguson blacks know who the cop is, he's well known as a repeat harasser of blacks.

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 12:26 PM
And at least blacks in Ferguson had the balls to react to police brutality. Police murder people all the time but whites are too scared to go out and do anything about it. Honestly, after what I've seen of the local police there, I'm extremely inclined to believe the shooting went down exactly like the locals say it did.

shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 12:26 PM
Ferguson Police Tear Gas Reporters then Disassemble Their TV Equipment (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321504/-Ferguson-Police-Tear-Gas-Reporters-then-Disassemble-Their-TV-Equipment)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321504/-Ferguson-Police-Tear-Gas-Reporters-then-Disassemble-Their-TV-Equipment?detail=email

Certainly there must be plenty of smartphone cameras from 100s of angles recording the military crackdown. posse comitatus be fucked.

angrydude
08-14-2014, 12:28 PM
shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.

??

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 12:40 PM
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Obama sends "deep condolences" to family of MO teen killed after allegedly attacking police officer. No condolences for the cop.
4:23 PM - 12 Aug 2014 (https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/statuses/499305118622564352)

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2014, 12:42 PM
I don't agree with the police reaction in Ferguson, but....


right-wing Bundy white assholes threatens federal agents with rifles. nothing happens (so far)



How many stores did the Bundy camp loot? You're an idiot for trying to compare a peaceful Bundy protest to what is happening in Furgeson.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 12:48 PM
Black Panthers in da hood!

"Filing in for the vacationing Megyn Kelly, Fox News’ Martha MacCallum drummed up Black Panther fears by claiming they are pushing racial violence in Ferguson, based on an FBI report that ONE member of the fringe Black Panthers group is in Ferguson."

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/14/fox-news-justify-militarization-violence-ferguson-police.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

"fair and balanced!"

Dick Jones
08-14-2014, 12:50 PM
How many stores did the Bundy camp loot?

You call it "looting", I call it "refusing to submit to US government authority as a sovereign citizen, laying claim to liquor bottles that are their ancestral right to graze from".

But, hey, Po-ta-to, Po-tah-to.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 12:55 PM
gonna be lots more of vids like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A4i_K9fkk

white boys will be white boys

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 01:12 PM
New witness steps forward in Michael Brown shooting, provides new video (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321564/-New-witness-steps-forward-in-Michael-Brown-shooting-provides-new-video)

Mitchell told News 4 she saw a door close on a police car. An officer was inside and Brown, Jr. was on the outside. She said the two were arm wrestling through the car window. Mitchell said she then tried to pull out her phone to record. Shots then rang out.“It just didn’t look right for them to be arm wrestling,” Mitchell said. “The first gun shot came from the window, so I just started getting out of the way.”

According to Mitchell, Brown, Jr, began to run away after the first shot was fired.

“After the shot, the kid just breaks away. The cop follows him, kept shooting, the kid’s body jerked as if he was hit. After his body jerked he turns around, puts his hands up, and the cop continues to walk up on him and continues to shoot until he goes all the way down,” Mitchell said.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321564/-New-witness-steps-forward-in-Michael-Brown-shooting-provides-new-video?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:14 PM
shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.

this whole thing is set up. so some cop is crazy enough just to shoot a kid for no reason? this shit was programmed and my guess is we will never hear much about the cop that shot Ferguson. Meanwhile, we'll have more and more planned shit happen and we'll see more and more police in the streets. Whether it's Ebola or race wars or whatever. Know why Al Sharpton is the HNIC? It's not because the blacks want him there. It's because "they" want him there. Why is there no level headed black leader?

angrydude
08-14-2014, 01:22 PM
this whole thing is set up. so some cop is crazy enough just to shoot a kid for no reason? this shit was programmed and my guess is we will never hear much about the cop that shot Ferguson. Meanwhile, we'll have more and more planned shit happen and we'll see more and more police in the streets. Whether it's Ebola or race wars or whatever. Know why Al Sharpton is the HNIC? It's not because the blacks want him there. It's because "they" want him there. Why is there no level headed black leader?

Sorry. Cops shoot/kill people for no reason for all the time. They seem to think its alright if they subjectively "feel threatened" even if they objectively are not. Just youtube it. It's not exactly a national secret if you follow this sort of thing.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 01:34 PM
4 Unarmed Black Men Have Been Killed By Police in the Last Monthhttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/3-unarmed-black-african-american-men-killed-police

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:34 PM
Sorry. Cops shoot/kill people for no reason for all the time. They seem to think its alright if they subjectively "feel threatened" even if they objectively are not. Just youtube it. It's not exactly a national secret if you follow this sort of thing.

right. They do. So "they" have plenty to choose from. Why make a big deal of this one? Because it's the right time and right place. AND, the town has equipment supplied by the Pentagon. And this wasn't just an accidental shooting or something done in the heat of the moment. This was a programmed hit, so egregious that it had to blow up.

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:37 PM
4 Unarmed Black Men Have Been Killed By Police in the Last Month

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/3-unarmed-black-african-american-men-killed-police


"Unarmed" does not mean undeserved.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 01:40 PM
"Unarmed" does not mean undeserved.

Cops seem to handle LOTS of unarmed, and very often non threatening, even fleeing, people with shooting them to death, or if you're really lucky, just tasered, multiple times.

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:43 PM
Cops seem to handle LOTS of unarmed, and very often non threatening, even fleeing, people with shooting them to death, or if you're really lucky, just tasered, multiple times.

how many is "LOTS"?

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 01:47 PM
how many is "LOTS"?

a bunch

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:50 PM
a bunch

you don't have a clue...got it. thanks.

angrydude
08-14-2014, 01:52 PM
right. They do. So "they" have plenty to choose from. Why make a big deal of this one? Because it's the right time and right place. AND, the town has equipment supplied by the Pentagon. And this wasn't just an accidental shooting or something done in the heat of the moment. This was a programmed hit, so egregious that it had to blow up.

It's a big deal because people started protesting. This could have happened anywhere the conditions were the same. Lots of towns have that equipment. I agree that this was sort of predictable, but I'm not sure who "they" are. Sorry, not buying this is a false flag psy-op or whatever.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 01:53 PM
you don't have a clue...got it. thanks.

Did you hear about 4 killed before I posted above?

Do a quick search, there are sites that try to keep with the cop murderers, precision lacking, with certainly no help from the lying cops and the Blue Wall, but probably 50 -100/year.

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 01:58 PM
Did you hear about 4 killed before I posted above?

Do a quick search, there are sites that try to keep with the cop murderers, precision lacking, with certainly no help from the lying cops and the Blue Wall, but probably 50 -100/year.

a couple of those were resisting arrest and another was stalking around WalMart with a gun.

what does your "probably" equate too? 51%? So maybe it's actually about 25 per year. And I think it's likely that you're exaggerating by 2x. My "likely" is 75%. So really, around 17 per year. Compared to all of the crimes being committed, that's pretty small. Blacks kill more whites out of hate than that.

Infinite_limit
08-14-2014, 02:00 PM
My God the USA is a ghetto dump

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9ef3bbd33ebccb169eab791e165e0044ea633435/c=4-0-1728-1296&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/08/11/1407735871000-AP-Police-Shooting-Missouri-002.jpg

http://media.klewtv.com/images/140810_ferguson_riots_05.jpg

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Riots-in-Ferguson-5.jpg

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 02:06 PM
where's your empathy Limit?

http://clashdaily.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2014_08_12-06_38-tellmenow-53ea5f360bd3e-600x600.jpg

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 02:12 PM
a couple of those were resisting arrest and another was stalking around WalMart with a gun.

what does your "probably" equate too? 51%? So maybe it's actually about 25 per year. And I think it's likely that you're exaggerating by 2x. My "likely" is 75%. So really, around 17 per year. Compared to all of the crimes being committed, that's pretty small. Blacks kill more whites out of hate than that.

yep, compared to 300M+ people in USA, 17 or 200 cop murders/year is really nothing to care about, nor is total transformation of even podunk police departments into military outposts (and let's not forget the DHS army).

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 02:15 PM
yep, compared to 300M+ people in USA, 17 or 200 cop murders/year is really nothing to care about, nor is total transformation of even podunk police departments into military outposts (and let's not forget the DHS army).

at least you got around to the real problem.

Infinite_limit
08-14-2014, 02:20 PM
Putin laughing

http://boards.deniableplausibility.net/i/v/image/1330/98/1330982902066.gif

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 02:47 PM
at least you got around to the real problem.

no, I'm ridiculing your stupid trick of comparing a huge number of cop-murdered people to a larger irrelevant number, you implying that the number of cop-murdered people isn't large enough for concern.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 02:48 PM
LA Cops providing mental health care

L.A. Man Was 'Lying Down' When Cops 'Shot Him In The Back'
http://www.alternet.org/la-man-was-lying-down-when-cops-shot-him-back?akid=12127.187590.yOpC_-&rd=1&src=newsletter1015505&t=3

Infinite_limit
08-14-2014, 03:03 PM
LA Cops providing mental health care

L.A. Man Was 'Lying Down' When Cops 'Shot Him In The Back'


http://www.alternet.org/la-man-was-lying-down-when-cops-shot-him-back?akid=12127.187590.yOpC_-&rd=1&src=newsletter1015505&t=3

Blacks are Rappers. They say a-lot. I wouldn't put too much stock into what their claims are.

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 03:35 PM
Missouri Governor announces St. Louis County Police to be relieved of their duties in Ferguson (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321549/-Missouri-Governor-announces-St-Louis-County-Police-to-be-relieved-of-their-duties-in-Ferguson)


@GovJayNixon just confirmed that the State Police & Federal Authorities are going to relieve St. Louis County PD of their duties here.
— @ShaunKing (http://twitter.com/ShaunKing)

It's about time.Details as they develop.

8:55 AM PT (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321549/-Missouri-Governor-announces-St-Louis-County-Police-to-be-relieved-of-their-duties-in-Ferguson#20140814085553): More (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-14/st-louis-county-police-to-be-removed-from-ferguson-clay.html):

“The governor just called me, and he’s on his way to St. Louis now to announce he’s taking away St. Louis County police out of the situation,” Clay, a Missouri Democrat, said in a telephone interview.

He added that Nixon may ask the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation to step in.Clay said that he has been urging U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to “take over the entire situation because we will not get justice for Michael Brown and his family and friends if the St. Louis County police and prosecutor have a say.”


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321549/-Missouri-Governor-announces-St-Louis-County-Police-to-be-relieved-of-their-duties-in-Ferguson?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 04:11 PM
11 Shocking Facts About America's Militarized Police Forces

3. The use of SWAT teams is unnecessary. In many cases, using militarized teams of police is not needed. The ACLU report notes that the vast majority of cases where SWAT teams are deployed are in situations where a search warrant is being executed to just look for drugs. In other words, it’s not even 100% clear whether there are drugs at the place the police are going to. These situations are not why SWAT was created.

Furthermore, even when SWAT teams think there are weapons, they are often wrong. The ACLU report shows that in the cases where police thought weapons would be there, they were right only a third of the time.

4. The “war on terror” is fueling militarization. It was the “war on drugs” that introduced militarized policing to the U.S. But the “war on terror” has accelerated it.

A growing number of agencies have taken advantage of the Department of Defense’s “1033” program, which is passed every year as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, the budget for the Pentagon. The number of police agencies obtaining military equipment like mine-resistant ambush protected (MRAP) vehicles has increased since 2009, according to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/15/local-law-enforcement-agencies-surplus-military-equipment/10286485/) [10], which notes that this “surplus military equipment” is “left over from U.S. military campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.” This equipment is largely cost-free for the police agencies who receive them.

In addition to the Pentagon budget provision, another agency created in the aftermath of 9/11 is helping militarize the police. The Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) own grants funnel military-style equipment to local police departments nationwide. According to a 2011 Center for Investigative Reporting story published by The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/20/local-cops-ready-for-war-with-homeland-security-funded-military-weapons.html) [11], at least $34 billion in DHS grants have gone to police agencies to buy military-style equipment. This money has gone to purchase drones, tactical vests, bomb-disarming robots, tanks and more.

5. It’s a boon to contractor profits. The trend towards police militarization has given military contractors another lucrative market where they can shop their products. Companies like Lockheed Martin and Blackhawk Industries are making big bucks by selling their equipment to agencies flush with Department of Homeland Security grants.

In addition to the actual selling of equipment, contractors also sponsor training events for SWAT teams, like Urban Shield, a major arms expo that has attracted increasing attention from activists in recent years. SWAT teams, police agencies and military contractors converge on Urban Shield, which was held in California last year, to train and to promote equipment to buy.

6. Border militarization and police militarization go hand in hand. The “war on terror” and “war on drugs” aren’t the only wars helping police militarization. There’s also the war on undocumented immigrants.

The notorious Sheriff Joe Arpaio, infamous for brutal crackdowns on undocumented immigrants, is the paradigmatic example of this trend. According to the ACLU, Arpaio’s Maricopa County department has acquired a machine gun so powerful it could tear through buildings on multiple city blocks. In addition, he has 120 assault rifles, five armored vehicles and ten helicopters. Other law enforcement agencies in Arizona have obtained equipment like bomb suits and night-vision goggles.

Then there’s a non-local law enforcement agency on the border: the Border Patrol, which has obtained drones and attack helicopters. And Border Patrol agents are acting like they’re at war. A recent Los Angeles Times investigation revealed (http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/27/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227) [12] that law enforcement experts had found that that the Border Patrol has killed 19 people from January 2010-October 2012, including some of whom when the agents were under no lethal, direct threat.

7. Police are cracking down on dissent. In 1999, massive protests rocked Seattle during the World Trade Organization meeting. The police cracked down hard on the demonstrators using paramilitary tactics. Police fired tear gas at protesters, causing all hell to break loose.

Norm Stamper, the Seattle police chief at the time, criticized the militarized policing he presided over in a Nation article in 2011. “Rocks, bottles and newspaper racks went flying. Windows were smashed, stores were looted, fires lighted; and more gas filled the streets, with some cops clearly overreacting, escalating and prolonging the conflict,” wrote Stamper.

More than a decade after the Seattle protests, militarized policing to crack down on dissent returned with a vengeance during the wave of Occupy protests in 2011. Tear gas and rubber bullets were used to break up protests in Oakland. Scott Olsen, an Occupy Oakland protester and war veteran, was struck (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/city-of-oakland-pays-4-million-veteran-occupy) [13] in the head by a police projectile, causing a fractured skull, broken neck vertebrae and brain swelling.

8. Asset forfeitures are funding police militarization. In June, AlterNet’s Aaron Cantu (http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/police-can-just-take-your-money-car-and-other-property-and-good-luck-getting-it-back?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark) [14]outlined how civil asset forfeiture laws work.

“It’s a legal fiction spun up hundreds of years ago to give the state the power to convict a person’s property of a crime, or at least, implicate its involvement in the committing of a crime. When that happened, the property was to be legally seized by the state,” wrote Cantu. He went on to explain that law enforcement justifies the seizing of property and cash as a way to break up narcotics rings’ infrastructure. But it can also be used in cases where a person is not convicted, or even charged with, a crime.

Asset forfeitures bring in millions of dollars for police agencies, who then spend the money for their own uses. And for some police departments, it goes to militarizing their police force.

New Yorker reporter Sarah Stillman, who penned a deeply reported piece on asset forfeitures, (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/08/12/130812fa_fact_stillman) [15]wrote in August 2013 that (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/08/swat-team-nation.html) [16]“thousands of police departments nationwide have recently acquired stun grenades, armored tanks, counterattack vehicles, and other paramilitary equipment, much of it purchased with asset-forfeiture funds.” So SWAT teams have an incentive to conduct raids where they seize property and cash. That money can then go into their budgets for more weapons.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces?akid=12127.187590.yOpC_-&rd=1&src=newsletter1015505&t=7&paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

cheguevara
08-14-2014, 04:13 PM
Putin laughing


I think so. Headline right now in RT.com (Putin's newsbroadcaster):
Iraq? Afghanistan? Obama puts boots on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri

:lmao :lol

cantthinkofanything
08-14-2014, 04:32 PM
no, I'm ridiculing your stupid trick of comparing a huge number of cop-murdered people to a larger irrelevant number, you implying that the number of cop-murdered people isn't large enough for concern.

Is 17 a huge number? With all the scenarios that play out in the world every day? With a police force where almost all of them carry a gun? I'm not concerned about it. I'm more concerned about the emotional response to any one event that causes more death and destruction. And political leaders who pick and choose what to pounce on to further their personal goals and gains.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2014, 05:58 PM
They must have read your post and decided they gave a fuck about black people.


Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.

http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.com/2014/08/report-missouri-citizens-militia-is-now.html
the Missouri Citizen’s Militia is NOW IN Ferguson to protect innocent Americans from the tyrannical ‘police state’ according to the linked facebook post from Aaron Penberthy. Missouri’s Militia was recently at Bundy Ranch protecting innocent Americans from the CORRUPT FEDS who have NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TERRORIZE INNOCENT Americans. Straight from the lips of Penberthy on Facebook:

Aaron Penberthy If peaceful protesters get fired upon, it is my duty to uphold the constitution Clay Martin. If innocent families are being attacked, I have no choice but as a human being to go defend.

Infinite_limit
08-14-2014, 06:05 PM
I think so. Headline right now in RT.com (Putin's newsbroadcaster):
Iraq? Afghanistan? Obama puts boots on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri

:lmao :lol
Hahah. Nicely done sir.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2014, 06:09 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201539899619057&set=a.1576490391876.66431.1824112864&type=1&theater

boutons_deux
08-14-2014, 07:29 PM
We Repugs aren't racistis, but ...

Rep. Steve King: Ferguson Protestors Are Of A Single 'Continental Origin'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/steve-king-ferguson-continental-origin

:lol

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 06:48 AM
If it happened the way the witnesses said I'm pretty confident charges will be filed and the cop is going to jail.

The riots are just street trash being street trash. None of the rioters arrested were actually from the town.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 07:19 AM
I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.

That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.

Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 07:45 AM
I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.

That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.

Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.

It may come down to a fine line of defining over reacting. Even the friendly eyewitnesses say the kid and the cop were "wrestling" through the window of the car. If they were in fact wrestling over the cops gun then a case could be made that the cop was acting in self defense on at least the first shot. The last seven shots? Not so much.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 07:49 AM
It may come down to a fine line of defining over reacting. Even the friendly eyewitnesses say the kid and the cop were "wrestling" through the window of the car. If they were in fact wrestling over the cops gun then a case could be made that the cop was acting in self defense on at least the first shot. The last seven shots? Not so much.

The case is so over the top as presented so far it seems like there must be more.
Seems...

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 08:18 AM
It's easy to forget that cops are people and sometimes scared shitless too. You know that if in fact they were wrestling over the gun and the cop was in serious fear for his life that the adrenaline was off the charts. Cops are not trained to just "shoot once" in a like threatening situation they are trained that once gunfire is necessary in their opinion to shoot until the guy goes down.

That being said if he continued to shoot the guy as his back was turned and he was trying to run away (forensics will easily verify this if true) that was a huge error in judgement adrenaline or not.

Big Empty
08-15-2014, 08:37 AM
Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 08:47 AM
Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol

If the militias were smart, they'd head to Ferguson and stand with the protestors. This is the perfect opportunity for them to make a point and not look like complete racists.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 08:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGzZ-EFe3U8

like i was saying before, during the first 3-4 days of protests, it was peaceful displays of unity.it wasn't until the sun came down and the police brought in tanks, tear gas, riot gear and wooden/rubber bullets to intimidate and incite violence. now that the governor FINALLY called off his hell hounds and brought in some decent police, its been back to peaceful demonstrations of unity 24/7.

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state senator nadal who joined in the protests and was maced and arrested

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dANCBMh9EEU

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 08:51 AM
lol at this graphic from USA today

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/436a178d968c11b316c9526299360b31e1f96d76/c=0-0-1812-1363&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/08/14/1408043091000-Ferguson-photo-graphic.jpg

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 08:55 AM
Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol

Typical email/facebook "news". That pic wasn't Brown.

BTW, isn't it pleasant that Kool, Trill and the other trolls are shitting in the Club thread and leaving this one alone? People can actually have a reasonable interchange of ideas and perspective without their blind racist baiting and trolling.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 08:57 AM
smh

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 09:00 AM
Well, there goes the fucking neighborhood.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:04 AM
Well, there goes the fucking neighborhood.

CosmicCrackhead staying true to racist troll form.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 09:09 AM
rally in NYC

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http://i59.tinypic.com/if4knc.jpg

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before and after


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CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 09:10 AM
CosmicCrackhead staying true to racist troll form.

The stupid troll as usual not able to detect humor when it smacks him in the face.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:11 AM
It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:12 AM
The stupid troll as usual not able to detect humor when it smacks him in the face.

my bad. my face has been desensitized by your mom's floppy booosums

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 09:13 AM
It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.

Hardly a surprise. It is the nationwide norm that police forces make an effort to mirror the demographics of their community.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:15 AM
Hardly a surprise. It is the nationwide norm that police forces make an effort to mirror the demographics of their community.

lol. and you imply that I'm obtuse? shit...if I had multiple ID's, I'd be an awesome troll just like you.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 09:17 AM
It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.

I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.

In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:23 AM
lol at this graphic from USA today

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/436a178d968c11b316c9526299360b31e1f96d76/c=0-0-1812-1363&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/08/14/1408043091000-Ferguson-photo-graphic.jpg


I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.

In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.


I get all that.
My LOL was actually at the graphic itself and the ratio of black to blue color compared to the % numbers given. If you're going to use a graphic to make a point, it should match the numbers.
The 45%/52% particularly stands out.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 09:44 AM
I get all that.
My LOL was actually at the graphic itself and the ratio of black to blue color compared to the % numbers given. If you're going to use a graphic to make a point, it should match the numbers.
The 45%/52% particularly stands out.

It may very well match the numbers, it's the area of a circle pi*r^2.

Did you measure r on your screen for the black and white areas, square it, multiply by pi and then do a ratio? Then 45 and 52 don't stand out.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:51 AM
It may very well match the numbers, it's the area of a circle pi*r^2.

Did you measure r on your screen for the black and white areas, square it, multiply by pi and then do a ratio? Then 45 and 52 don't stand out.

I must admit that I did not. I also did not take into account the resolution and aspect ratio of my monitor. Or the progressive focus points in my glasses.
My bad.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 09:55 AM
butt...I did just hold up a couple of coins to the screen. The dime perfectly fit inside the blue 67% on the end. A quarter perfectly covers the full 52/45 circle. So a quarter is 100% and the dime represents 67%.

JoeTait75
08-15-2014, 10:06 AM
lol at this graphic from USA today

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/436a178d968c11b316c9526299360b31e1f96d76/c=0-0-1812-1363&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/08/14/1408043091000-Ferguson-photo-graphic.jpg

Looks like the demographic shift in some of Cleveland's east-side suburbs, tbh.

Spurminator
08-15-2014, 10:07 AM
A line chart would have been more effective, tbh.

Big Empty
08-15-2014, 10:08 AM
Typical email/facebook "news". That pic wasn't Brown.

BTW, isn't it pleasant that Kool, Trill and the other trolls are shitting in the Club thread and leaving this one alone? People can actually have a reasonable interchange of ideas and perspective without their blind racist baiting and trolling.
I didnt realize it was a fake. Tbh its hard to say what happened. It sucks that the kid was unarmed. Well never know if he resisted arrest or went for the officers gun even if the officer came back & provoked it. Tbh i dont care for any dumb asshole that walks in the middle of the street when theres a damn sidewalk. I dont really feel sorry for anyone that starts struggling with police cause that makes u an idiot and u subject urself to these kinds of things. I think i have more of an issue with that guy that had a heart attack that couldnt breath. I think those cops were hotheaded and wreckless there and its very unfortunate but again, resisted arrest. Never gonna win that battle so resist at ur own risk

pgardn
08-15-2014, 10:11 AM
butt...I did just hold up a couple of coins to the screen. The dime perfectly fit inside the blue 67% on the end. A quarter perfectly covers the full 52/45 circle. So a quarter is 100% and the dime represents 67%.

That assumes the outside most circles in each year have the same total area. They don't appear to on my screen.

Let us agree that it might not be a good visual to the human eye. A bar graph might have been better.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 10:53 AM
A line chart would have been more effective, tbh.

I think something like this would have worked.
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spurraider21
08-15-2014, 01:10 PM
btw, the Ferguson blacks know who the cop is, he's well known as a repeat harasser of blacks.
link to Darren Wilson's repeated harassment of blacks please?

Infinite_limit
08-15-2014, 01:12 PM
QUESTION:

So the officer was called to the scene because of a robbery call?

spurraider21
08-15-2014, 01:12 PM
I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.

In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.
they complain about a lack of black cops... then when confronted with images of black cops they call them coons :lol. you can't win

do we have figures of how many blacks in the area applied to be cops?

spurraider21
08-15-2014, 01:13 PM
QUESTION:

So the officer was called to the scene because of a robbery call?
Chief Jackson said that Officer Wilson had been alerted to the robbery shortly before the encounter with the teenager, Michael Brown, 18, who was walking home from a store on Saturday when he was shot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/darren-wilson-identified-as-officer-in-fatal-shooting-in-ferguson-missouri.html?_r=0

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 01:13 PM
they complain about a lack of black cops... then when confronted with images of black cops they call them coons :lol. you can't win

do we have figures of how many blacks in the area applied to be cops?

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boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 01:14 PM
link to Darren Wilson's repeated harassment of blacks please?

Heard that blacks know the asshole cop, and of course many of them saw him shoot the kid down, heard it on NPR the other morning, but the lady wouldn't say on the air.

spurraider21
08-15-2014, 01:15 PM
Heard that blacks know the asshole cop, and of course many of them saw him shoot the kid down, heard it on NPR the other morning, but the lady wouldn't say on the air.
repeated harassment implies previous incidents. please, do tell. or were you just bullshitting?

Infinite_limit
08-15-2014, 01:23 PM
Chief Jackson said that Officer Wilson had been alerted to the robbery shortly before the encounter with the teenager, Michael Brown, 18, who was walking home from a store on Saturday when he was shot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/darren-wilson-identified-as-officer-in-fatal-shooting-in-ferguson-missouri.html?_r=0
That is a crucial piece of information. When Police hear robbery they are on alert for weapons.

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/michael-brown-surveilance-pics1-304xx375-562-65-0_zpse59d1ed4.png


Looks like Thug got what he deserved. Case closed

angrydude
08-15-2014, 01:44 PM
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.

Infinite_limit
08-15-2014, 01:48 PM
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.
He had his hands on another man minutes before the altercation with Police. This gives credibility to the Police claim of physical struggle.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 01:51 PM
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.

"summary execution" http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dahell2.png

all he had to do was fucking nothing. then he'd still be alive dealing with his real charges.

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 02:04 PM
repeated harassment implies previous incidents. please, do tell. or were you just bullshitting?

I said a lady interviewed on NPR said Ferguson blacks knew who the cop was, not me.

Does your bullshit-for-brains really think the harassing cop or the harassment victims would have recorded the harassment incidents?

spurraider21
08-15-2014, 02:20 PM
I said a lady interviewed on NPR said Ferguson blacks knew who the cop was, not me.

Does your bullshit-for-brains really think the harassing cop or the harassment victims would have recorded the harassment incidents?
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.

stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 02:25 PM
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.

stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then

that response to that poster. http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 02:26 PM
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.

stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then

bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.

If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.

If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.

cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 02:31 PM
bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.

If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.

If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.

LOL at thought of a black cop harassing rednecks. Would love to have on film.

spurraider21
08-15-2014, 02:33 PM
bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.

If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.

If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.
Innocent until proven guilty... Unless he's white?

of course after the fact black people in the area will claim he harassed them. Anything they can do to smear him

pgardn
08-15-2014, 03:22 PM
He had his hands on another man minutes before the altercation with Police. This gives credibility to the Police claim of physical struggle.

Yes it does.

But the cop who shot him was NOT aware of the forced robbery.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 03:25 PM
LOL at thought of a black cop harassing rednecks. Would love to have on film.

I would to.

A bunch of black cops at the Bundy Ranch instead of the Feds, would have been like a movie.

baseline bum
08-15-2014, 03:38 PM
That is a crucial piece of information. When Police hear robbery they are on alert for weapons.

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/michael-brown-surveilance-pics1-304xx375-562-65-0_zpse59d1ed4.png


Looks like Thug got what he deserved. Case closed

:lol Faggot getting what he deserved

DisAsTerBot
08-15-2014, 03:58 PM
Yes it does.

But the cop who shot him was NOT aware of the forced robbery.

and? Brown was aware of what he did and was not aware the officer wasn't. I think that makes it highly probable brown at least acted suspicious (not that that justifies a shooting) but it does seem to add to the "struggle" narrative.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 04:11 PM
and? Brown was aware of what he did and was not aware the officer wasn't. I think that makes it highly probable brown at least acted suspicious (not that that justifies a shooting) but it does seem to add to the "struggle" narrative.

Very good point.

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 04:18 PM
there's two accounts vs the asshole cop

Brown's friend said the asshole pulled up very close to them and told them to get on the sidewalk (walking in the street is "qualtiy of life"/"broken windows" infraction, I guess). They said they were almost home. Cop forced open his door, hitting them both, tried to grab Brown, pull him through the window, Brown resisted. Shot goes off, Brown runs, assholes shoots him 8 times. never can tell when a dead body will stop being a death risk for the shooter.

a girl with a more distant view corroborated the "through the window" / arm wrestling.

Brown, like Trayvon, hasn't given his version, yet.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 04:28 PM
and? Brown was aware of what he did and was not aware the officer wasn't. I think that makes it highly probable brown at least acted suspicious (not that that justifies a shooting) but it does seem to add to the "struggle" narrative.

X2

Kind of blows the "Saint" Brown narrative. Still adrenaline pumped from punking the Pakistani, could very well have provoked the confrontation with the cop. It's a fact the cop got popped in the face in the struggle with the bruises to prove it.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 04:32 PM
there's two accounts vs the asshole cop

Brown's friend said the asshole pulled up very close to them and told them to get on the sidewalk (walking in the street is "qualtiy of life"/"broken windows" infraction, I guess). They said they were almost home. Cop forced open his door, hitting them both, tried to grab Brown, pull him through the window, Brown resisted. Shot goes off, Brown runs, assholes shoots him 8 times. never can tell when a dead body will stop being a death risk for the shooter.

a girl with a more distant view corroborated the "through the window" / arm wrestling.

Brown, like Trayvon, hasn't given his version, yet.

That's one big motherfucker for a cop sitting down with no leverage to try to "pull through the window". Even better question is why the fuck would he want to pull him through the window? That's just asking for trouble with a big strong motherfucker like that.

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 04:34 PM
That's one big motherfucker for a cop sitting down with no leverage to try to "pull through the window". Even better question is why the fuck would he want to pull him through the window? That's just asking for trouble with a big strong motherfucker like that.

Right, they're Negroes, they're always lying. The asshole cop and his department always tell the truth, are never wrong, the victim is always the guilty party, if cops say anything that gets beyond the Blue Wall of self-protection.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:41 PM
QUESTION:

So the officer was called to the scene because of a robbery call?
no

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vy65
08-15-2014, 04:42 PM
I like how TSA directly answered the OP, and that shit got swept under the rug; just goes to show how thin the desire to burn the witch really is.

Lol boutons

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:43 PM
this eyewitness made this video the day after the murder of mike. talks about him taking the cigars and everything. the chief fucced his case up by trying to taint the image of the deceased. those cigars had ZERO to do with him being shot 8 times in cold blood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy5FiqzWHI

DisAsTerBot
08-15-2014, 04:44 PM
being a robbery suspect probably has something to do with being shot

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 04:46 PM
Right, they're Negroes, they're always lying. The asshole cop and his department always tell the truth, are never wrong, the victim is always the guilty party, if cops say anything that gets beyond the Blue Wall of self-protection.

:lmao

If the friend that just rolled the pakistani in the mini mart with Johnson wasn't lying he certainly seemed to be shading the truth.

Somebody please bring on the video of the cop assassinating Johnson.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:46 PM
and? Brown was aware of what he did and was not aware the officer wasn't. I think that makes it highly probable brown at least acted suspicious (not that that justifies a shooting) but it does seem to add to the "struggle" narrative.

numerous eyewitnesses say brown had his hands up and got on his knees to surrender. the officer then shot him 7 more times after the fact.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 04:47 PM
being a robbery suspect probably has something to do with being shot

Technically the cop didn't know Johnson was a robbery suspect but Johnson didn't know that. Sounds like another stupid decision ended badly.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 04:49 PM
numerous eyewitnesses say brown had his hands up and got on his knees to surrender. the officer then shot him 7 more times after the fact.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Grappling for the gun in the car with the cop is apparently what got him killed. Even the eyewitnesses agree they were struggling through the window and the first shot came from in the car while they were still struggling.

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 04:52 PM
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Grappling for the gun in the car with the cop is apparently what got him killed.

not "apparently", at all.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:53 PM
I said a lady interviewed on NPR said Ferguson blacks knew who the cop was, not me.

Does your bullshit-for-brains really think the harassing cop or the harassment victims would have recorded the harassment incidents?

you're right. CNN interviewed a young lady who had an unfortunate run in with the blood thirsty cop. he has a bad reputation.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:55 PM
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Grappling for the gun in the car with the cop is apparently what got him killed. Even the eyewitnesses agree they were struggling through the window and the first shot came from in the car while they were still struggling.

struggle could have been the cop trying to pull him in the car and mike trying to get away, which is what several witnesses are saying. remember, we STILL have yet to hear law enforcements side for some reason. either way, he was shot 8 times which is excessive.

Big Empty
08-15-2014, 04:55 PM
this eyewitness made this video the day after the murder of mike. talks about him taking the cigars and everything. the chief fucced his case up by trying to taint the image of the deceased. those cigars had ZERO to do with him being shot 8 times in cold blood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy5FiqzWHIdaamn this guy witnessed it or his gut feeling. Makes alot of sense

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:03 PM
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CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:07 PM
struggle could have been the cop trying to pull him in the car and mike trying to get away, which is what several witnesses are saying. remember, we STILL have yet to hear law enforcements side for some reason. either way, he was shot 8 times which is excessive.

Trill, seriously...even you aren't that stupid. Why would a cop sitting down with no leverage try to pull a strong, young 250# man through his drivers side window? What the fuck would be the point?

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:08 PM
BTW, FWIW eyewitness accounts say it was more like 4 shots, not 8.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:08 PM
click the link in this tweet.

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Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:11 PM
Trill, seriously...even you aren't that stupid. Why would a cop sitting down with no leverage try to pull a strong, young 250# man through his drivers side window? What the fuck would be the point?

do blood thirsty, power hungry cops need a point? the cop was in a SUV so it makes sense for him to be eye level with mike. according to eyewitnesses, he drove past them, then reversed and cut them off and hit mike with his door. the door ricocheted bacc and the cop grabbed mike through the window.

again, mike was shot 8 times and posed no threat after the initial shot. he had his hands raised and said don't shoot.

vy65
08-15-2014, 05:14 PM
lol rollos

vy65
08-15-2014, 05:15 PM
nigga shoulda just stuck with skittles ...

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:18 PM
do blood thirsty, power hungry cops need a point? the cop was in a SUV so it makes sense for him to be eye level with mike. according to eyewitnesses, he drove past them, then reversed and cut them off and hit mike with his door. the door ricocheted bacc and the cop grabbed mike through the window.

again, mike was shot 8 times and posed no threat after the initial shot. he had his hands raised and said don't shoot.

All this on the word of the guy that had just robbed a convenience store with him. :lmao

Your witness has a credibility problem but don't let that stop you from declaring it to be iron clad fact.

Maybe just wait till more facts come out to pass judgement?

One thing I am pretty sure of.

When the cop told Johnson to get out of the middle of the fucking street...if he had just said OK and moved to the curb the rest of this would have never happened.

Agreed?

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:19 PM
BTW, if you watch your punk ass niggas video he says the cop shot him 9 times.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:20 PM
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Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:21 PM
punk ass niggas

unecessary

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:23 PM
"damaging" Browns "reputation"

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

That niggas on video stealing from and punking a poor Pakistani shop owner trying to make an honest living.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:25 PM
All this on the word of the guy that had just robbed a convenience store with him. :lmao

Your witness has a credibility problem but don't let that stop you from declaring it to be iron clad fact.

Maybe just wait till more facts come out to pass judgement?

One thing I am pretty sure of.

When the cop told Johnson to get out of the middle of the fucking street...if he had just said OK and moved to the curb the rest of this would have never happened.

Agreed?

they didn't rob the store. they shoplifted. i don't need anymore facts. dude was shot 8 times AFTER throwing his hands up. cop should have just gave him a citation and went on to fight some real crime.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:28 PM
BTW, that nigga would have laughed at you in your coral shorts stylishly 2" above your knees to show your muscled thighs.

Excuse me if that was Kool. I get you idiots confused.

Big Empty
08-15-2014, 05:29 PM
Yea i just saw the video of that big ass dude shoving some old man stealing. Fuck him. Shoot his wirthless ass 8 more times i cant stand theives. God help the next dude that breaks into my truck. Case closed. He walked in like a boss n just intimidated and shoved that old man for sone damn smokes. Imagine what hell do for money.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:30 PM
they didn't rob the store. they shoplifted. i don't need anymore facts. dude was shot 8 times AFTER throwing his hands up. cop should have just gave him a citation and went on to fight some real crime.

He assaulted the shopkeeper that was trying to keep him from stealing from him. Just minutes before he potentially assaulted a police officer.

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:31 PM
cc is throwing out the N word all willy nilly now

Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 05:31 PM
cc, i'll come back when you're done trolling.

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 05:34 PM
cc is throwing out the N word all willy nilly now

I watched the video of him rolling that poor shop owner. That wasn't a black man. That was a Nigga. Do you REALLY identify with him just because of skin color?

baseline bum
08-15-2014, 06:14 PM
BTW, that nigga would have laughed at you in your coral shorts stylishly 2" above your knees to show your muscled thighs.

Excuse me if that was Kool. I get you idiots confused.

You realize you're arguing with the (wanna-be) black Wild Cobra, bro?

CosmicCowboy
08-15-2014, 06:17 PM
You realize you're arguing with the (wanna-be) black Wild Cobra, bro?

Yeah...actually worse. Dude is so color blinded it's really pathetic.

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2014, 07:06 PM
they didn't rob the store. they shoplifted. i don't need anymore facts. dude was shot 8 times AFTER throwing his hands up. cop should have just gave him a citation and went on to fight some real crime.
Trill you seem like a good dude. But damn man you are color blinded right now excusing the actions of a thief. Shame on you...if I wasn't on my phone I'd post one of those great pictures you linked me to telling you to kick rocks. Fight the good fight breh, this is a losing battle. Dude was a crook.

pgardn
08-15-2014, 07:27 PM
they didn't rob the store. they shoplifted. i don't need anymore facts. dude was shot 8 times AFTER throwing his hands up. cop should have just gave him a citation and went on to fight some real crime.

Shoplifted...

They took stuff via physical force. No guns, but that was not shoplifting.
Still does not excuse the police shooting if he did have his hands up and was drilled.
The police put out this video to show Mikey was not a nice little innocent kid as portrayed before.
Would this many folks have rioted if the police had shown the video BEFORE the shooting?
A we are looking for this guy...

The reaction of the nation now shifts, but should not if the cop basically executed him. These are separate incidents, involving the same person.

boutons_deux
08-15-2014, 09:17 PM
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Fergie PD smearing the dead kid, just like assholes here smeared Trayvon based on his selfies.

Infinite_limit
08-15-2014, 09:29 PM
numerous eyewitnesses say brown had his hands up and got on his knees to surrender. the officer then shot him 7 more times after the fact.
No offense but no one believes what blacks say. Like listening to Rap

pgardn
08-15-2014, 10:34 PM
No offense but no one believes what blacks say. Like listening to Rap

No one believes blacks...

The Nazi who says there was no holocaust...
High credibility is not happnin bro.

Bill_Brasky
08-16-2014, 11:33 AM
this is all so fucking dumb. You have retards getting their news from random twitter feeds and taking 'eyewitnesses' at their word 100%, even if what they say conflicts with the evidence at the scene......bottom line here is that this wasnt a sweet innocent kid. He was obviously not the best person. Who knows what happened with the cop, if i had to guess i would say that the cop rolled up on him and his friend and told them to move, he thought the cop would ID him from the burglary, and he may or may not have attacked the cop. What i do know is that if he was surrendering to the cop and was still shot multiple times after that fact, the cop is wrong and should be charged with murder. This should be fairly easy to determine based on the placement and position of the body in relation to the shells fired from the cops pistol. The kid didnt kill anyone, he didnt harm anyone(that we know about), and if he was really putting his hands up to surrender himself then that cop is a murderer.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 11:47 AM
I like how TSA directly answered the OP, and that shit got swept under the rug; just goes to show how thin the desire to burn the witch really is.

Lol boutons
Yeah WTF. the militia showed up.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 11:50 AM
Fergie PD smearing the dead kid, just like assholes here smeared Trayvon based on his selfies.
Lol the kid smeared himself. Don't rob a store and there won't be a picture of you robbing a store.

boutons_deux
08-16-2014, 01:02 PM
Lol the kid smeared himself. Don't rob a store and there won't be a picture of you robbing a store.

robbing a store had nothing to do with his being unarmed and shot multiple times, although I appreciate how you get suckered by the FPD:

1) already in deep shit for their cop murdering an unarmed kid

2) already in deep ship for their militarized response disaster and losing control of their own town to the state cops.

3) so they try to protect themselves and their murderous cop by smearing the kid with a video totally unrelated to the murder.

Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 01:09 PM
robbing a store had nothing to do with his being unarmed and shot multiple times, although I appreciate how you get suckered by the FPD:

1) already in deep shit for their cop murdering an unarmed kid

2) already in deep ship for their militarized response disaster and losing control of their own town to the state cops.

3) so they try to protect themselves and their murderous cop by smearing the kid with a video totally unrelated to the murder.
He's a thief, violent individual and a fat fk. Good riddance

Th'Pusher
08-16-2014, 02:03 PM
Hardly a surprise. It is the nationwide norm that police forces make an effort to mirror the demographics of their community.

Do you just make shit up and see if you get called on it, then split if someone does?

Ferguson's PD is 94% White - And That's Basically Normal in the US.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119070/michael-browns-death-leads-scrutiny-ferguson-white-police

The Ferguson, Missouri police department has faced criticism for its response to an officer shooting dead 18-year-old Michael Brown—its riot gear (http://www.businessinsider.com/police-militarization-ferguson-2014-8), how it has protected (http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/13/us/missouri-teen-shooting/) the officer’s identity, and that it reportedly neglected (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-who-says-he-witnessed-michael-brown-shooting-speaking-to/article_7fb366f0-2f29-5bdd-b18b-34c9d8c688e7.html) a key witness to Brown’s death. And many of these critics, including Vox (http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/12/5994181/ferguson-is-67-percent-black-and-its-police-force-is-94-percent-white), Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/10-insane-numbers-ferguson-killing), and the editorial board of the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/opinion/racial-history-behind-the-ferguson-protests.html), have pointed out the lack of racial diversity of Ferguson’s police force: Ferguson’s population is 67 percent black, but African Americans make up just 5.6 percent of the police force. Consider this number in the context of St. Louis’ deeply segregationist and discriminatory history—today, the city is still the sixth-most segregated in the country.


But Ferguson’s police department is also more or less average in its diversity. A 2007 survey of local police forces across the country from the Department of Justice showed that the average for a city of Ferguson’s size—21,000—is an 87.5 percent white police force, and 5.6 percent black. The national average for all local police stands at 75 percent white.


The police forces in large cities tend to be the most diverse, reflecting their populations—cities of one million or more average police forces that are 56 percent white, and 17.6 percent black. Generally, police forces get less diverse as you move down in population size.


Of course, these are just averages and they do not take into account the diversity of the cities themselves. Research also suggests, though, that representation makes a difference in how a community views and trusts police. For example, a 2011 study (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/pbtss11.pdf) from the Department of Justice found that a driver stopped by an officer of the same race was more likely to think the reason was legitimate than a driver stopped by an officer who looked different (83 percent vs. 74 percent viewing the stop as legitimate). In Ferguson, blacks are stopped 86 percent (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/10-insane-numbers-ferguson-killing) of the time and searched 92 percent, though few are found with contraband.

Diversity of officers is not the answer to all of the problems in the law enforcement system, Nusrat J. Choudhury, an attorney with the ACLU’s Racial Justice Program, told me. The New York Police Department is the most diverse force in the country, but a judge found its Stop and Frisk program violated (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html?pagewanted=all) people of color’s civil rights. The disparity in New York’s Stop and Frisk program look a lot like Ferguson’s issues—83 percent of the stops targeted minorities who made up half of the city’ population. And 90 percent of the people stopped were innocent.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 02:22 PM
robbing a store had nothing to do with his being unarmed and shot multiple times, although I appreciate how you get suckered by the FPD:

1) already in deep shit for their cop murdering an unarmed kid

2) already in deep ship for their militarized response disaster and losing control of their own town to the state cops.

3) so they try to protect themselves and their murderous cop by smearing the kid with a video totally unrelated to the murder.
Don't rob a store using violence and get caught on camera and no one can smear you with it. It's disgusting seeing people excuse that sort of behavior.

boutons_deux
08-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Don't rob a store using violence and get caught on camera and no one can smear you with it. It's disgusting seeing people excuse that sort of behavior.

no excuse at, PFD releasing that totally irrelevant, UNRELATED vid THIS WEEK was a self-defensive smear, was inflammatory, as the people showed again last night.

That's one fucking dumb, ignorant, incompetent police force.

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 02:45 PM
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Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 02:49 PM
according to independent journalists and residents of ferguson, there are people not from the neighborhood inciting violence and looting

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Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 02:53 PM
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TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 02:55 PM
no excuse at, PFD releasing that totally irrelevant, UNRELATED vid THIS WEEK was a self-defensive smear, was inflammatory, as the people showed again last night.

That's one fucking dumb, ignorant, incompetent police force.
Was Brown a criminal yes or no?

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 03:01 PM
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Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 03:04 PM
lol

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Dick Jones
08-16-2014, 03:41 PM
They must have read your post and decided they gave a fuck about black people.



http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.com/2014/08/report-missouri-citizens-militia-is-now.html
the Missouri Citizen’s Militia is NOW IN Ferguson to protect innocent Americans from the tyrannical ‘police state’ according to the linked facebook post from Aaron Penberthy. Missouri’s Militia was recently at Bundy Ranch protecting innocent Americans from the CORRUPT FEDS who have NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TERRORIZE INNOCENT Americans. Straight from the lips of Penberthy on Facebook:

Aaron Penberthy If peaceful protesters get fired upon, it is my duty to uphold the constitution Clay Martin. If innocent families are being attacked, I have no choice but as a human being to go defend.

:tu good to see at least a few of the militia gun nuts aren't racist pieces of shit.

m>s
08-16-2014, 03:49 PM
Of course mono is mad, he's a mongrel married to a jewess

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 03:51 PM
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Trill, are you or any of your twitter followers aware the police were told to stand down?

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 03:59 PM
Trill, are you or any of your twitter followers aware the police were told to stand down?
yup. the police weren't told to stand down until yesterday. they weren't protecting businesses prior to that. they were too busy throwing tear gas and flash bangs at non violent protestors.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 04:20 PM
As a business owner in Ferguson, are they allowed to shoot thiefs in their store?

Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 05:19 PM
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If he tweeted "punk black kid", he'd be out of a job

Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 05:20 PM
no excuse at, PFD releasing that totally irrelevant, UNRELATED vid THIS WEEK was a self-defensive smear, was inflammatory, as the people showed again last night.

That's one fucking dumb, ignorant, incompetent police force.
Please ensure me you are not White.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Going to crack a few beers and watch the live feed tonight. Apparently the black panthers are heading security. Should be a fun night watching these dipshits burn down their own community.

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 05:32 PM
Here's nice incident map of the "peaceful" protests


https://mapsengine.google.com/map/embed?mid=zQXCU9jTCWt8.k_AxWZwk4ODM

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 05:49 PM
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ferguson pd is ran by a bunch of red necked neanderthals.

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 05:51 PM
angry resident telling the governor to 'speak with your chest' lol. dude looked nervous as fucc up there!

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Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 05:54 PM
some SAWM trying to bribe the kid who was live tweeting the shooting(i posted his tweets a few pages bacc)

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man these people are inherently evil.

Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 05:56 PM
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hater
08-16-2014, 08:03 PM
:lol the community

boutons_deux
08-16-2014, 09:00 PM
a curfew starting at mignight ain't much of a curfew, should be dusk to dawn

pgardn
08-16-2014, 09:07 PM
a curfew starting at mignight ain't much of a curfew, should be dusk to dawn

Enforced by...?

TheSanityAnnex
08-16-2014, 09:17 PM
Enforced by...?
The black panthers. Seriously.

TeyshaBlue
08-16-2014, 09:18 PM
Enforced by...?

I've got some time on my hands.

King Emmanuel
08-16-2014, 09:31 PM
Of course mono is mad, he's a mongrel married to a jewess

wow mono married a jew?

pgardn
08-16-2014, 09:45 PM
I've got some time on my hands.

Just sit back and relax my friend.
Enjoy the humor in all of this.

Winehole23
08-17-2014, 12:34 AM
I've got some time on my hands.:lol

Winehole23
08-17-2014, 12:36 AM
a curfew starting at midnight ain't much of a curfew, should be dusk to dawnpro-law and order boutons shows true colors.

Winehole23
08-17-2014, 12:41 AM
when did twitter get so popular here?

see it online plenty, but retweets in this forum up til now have been few and far between.

times do change, though, but one thing that doesn't is that somebody else said it better before it was even a gleam in your eye.

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 08:52 AM
like as certain as the world turns:

Fox host: Robbery video suggests Ferguson ‘officer was justified’ in killing unarmed teen

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fox_ff_huddy_justified_140817a-615x345.jpghttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/17/fox-host-robbery-video-suggests-ferguson-officer-was-justified-in-killing-unarmed-teen/

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 10:43 AM
If the officers account is to believed good shoot.

http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:20 AM
when did twitter get so popular here?

see it online plenty, but retweets in this forum up til now have been few and far between.

times do change, though, but one thing that doesn't is that somebody else said it better before it was even a gleam in your eye.

From a Huffington Post correspondent. :lmao and these are the types Trill is quoting as truth

I believe these are rubber bullets, can anyone confirm? #Fergurson pic.twitter.com/iCsFi6qoIa

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http://i.imgur.com/MH8m0dW.jpg

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 11:25 AM
pro-law and order boutons shows true colors.

you're fucked up, my little butthurt stalker

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:29 AM
Holder requesting immediate Federal autopsy, obviously didn't like the State's findings.

Probably no bullet holes in the back as claimed by witnesses who were in the shower at the time.

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 11:46 AM
The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1408095935749.cached.jpg


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

Infinite_limit
08-17-2014, 01:14 PM
like as certain as the world turns:

Fox host: Robbery video suggests Ferguson ‘officer was justified’ in killing unarmed teen

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fox_ff_huddy_justified_140817a-615x345.jpghttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/17/fox-host-robbery-video-suggests-ferguson-officer-was-justified-in-killing-unarmed-teen/
She's right.

I grew up on CNN. I laughed and criticized Fox News 5 years ago. But now if I'm at the Gym jogging, I rather see Fox than CNN. CNN is a social media centered network that is too restrained by political correctness. I noticed while discussing the Missouri situation they have cute little pictures of Michael Brown plastered in the background but for some reason the picture of him choking a man half his size in the store isn't one of the images.

Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:25 PM
when did twitter get so popular here?

see it online plenty, but retweets in this forum up til now have been few and far between.

times do change, though, but one thing that doesn't is that somebody else said it better before it was even a gleam in your eye.


some inherently evil people in this world

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Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:27 PM
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Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:38 PM
los angeles protests

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tibet monks show support in ferguson

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eyewitness account of the young lady shot in the head a few nights ago by suspected law enforcement


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmM6CywPuHc

Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:41 PM
still no sight of any militia's. i'll keep an eye out and update when i get some info.

Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 06:02 PM
eyewitness account


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEmBhV8RB4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JJHma6WjY

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 06:12 PM
Was Brown a criminal yes or no?

Brown's crime was totally separate from his murder.

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 06:19 PM
http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.com/2014/08/report-missouri-citizens-militia-is-now.html

:lol

"Aaron Penberthy: If peaceful protesters get fired upon, it is my duty to uphold the constitution

Clay Martin: If innocent families are being attacked, I have no choice but as a human being to go defend"

self-deputized vigilantes gonna shoot up some local and state law enforcement?

hater
08-17-2014, 09:10 PM
:lol USA

:lol dont even know how to protest properly :lol

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 09:44 PM
Brown's crime was totally separate from his murder.
Answer the question. Criminal yes or no?

Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 10:26 PM
still no sight of any militia's. i'll keep an eye out and update when i get some info.

They have been trying to protect stores from looters for a while now.

boutons_deux
08-17-2014, 10:31 PM
Answer the question. Criminal yes or no?

I said "Brown's crime"

The cop murdered Brown, yes or no?

pgardn
08-17-2014, 10:54 PM
I said "Brown's crime"

The cop murdered Brown, yes or no?

Jesus just say yes.

Then go on about his execution.

Pelicans78
08-17-2014, 10:59 PM
there's two accounts vs the asshole cop

Brown's friend said the asshole pulled up very close to them and told them to get on the sidewalk (walking in the street is "qualtiy of life"/"broken windows" infraction, I guess). They said they were almost home. Cop forced open his door, hitting them both, tried to grab Brown, pull him through the window, Brown resisted. Shot goes off, Brown runs, assholes shoots him 8 times. never can tell when a dead body will stop being a death risk for the shooter.

a girl with a more distant view corroborated the "through the window" / arm wrestling.

Brown, like Trayvon, hasn't given his version, yet.

Who gives a fuck? He was a thug.

m>s
08-17-2014, 11:37 PM
Who gives a fuck? He was a thug.
Dr pelicans with the goods

Jacob1983
08-18-2014, 01:26 AM
Why are people protesting anyway? Do they think it will bring the young fellow back to life or something? Or do they want a handout or something? I just don't get protesting. I bitch and complain all the time but as long as I can beat off, eat food, and watch a good movie or tv show, I'm good. Honestly, the only people that have a right to protest are the parents of the young fellow. Everyone else that is protesting is just doing it for their own selfish reasons. They're either trying to be cool, trendy, or get attention. They don't really give a shit about the dead fellow.

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 05:53 AM
"Why are people protesting anyway?"

They're Fed Up and They're Not Going To Take It AnyMore

because 1000s of black men have been shot by the police, and 100Ks (Ms in NYC) have been stopped, frisked (including police hand down their pants front and back, in front of their girlfriends), sometimes "fried" (NYC), but not arrested, etc, etc. aka, living while black (and falsely criminalized or killed). aka, the New Jim Crow.

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 06:12 AM
Another black thug murdered, unarmed (and mentally deficient), of course

Hundreds protest fatal police shooting of unarmed black man in Los Angele

About 500 people protested outside Los Angeles police headquarters on Sunday over the shooting death of an unarmed black man in California as disturbances continued in Missouri over the police killing of a black teenager there last week.

Ezell Ford, 25, was killed by police in Los Angeles on Monday, two days after 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot dead by a police officer in the St. Louis suburb where he lived.

“He was a humble guy,” said Ford’s cousin, Ceebo Ship, 22.

Ship and other family members said Ford suffered from an unspecified mental illness and was “slower than the rest of us,” and a gentle person who loved basketball.

Ford’s family said he was cooperating with officers and lying on the ground when shot. The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) said Ford had struggled with officers and was trying to grab one of their guns when he was shot.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/18/hundreds-protest-fatal-police-shooting-of-unarmed-black-man-in-los-angeles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 06:26 AM
Why are people protesting anyway?

Michael Eric Dyson Spells It Out for White People: Police Won’t ‘Kill Your Child’

Georgetown University Professor Michael Eric Dyson on Sunday called on President Barack Obama to use his position to explain to white Americans that they do not continually have to fear that police would “kill your child” as African-American parents do.

In an appearance on CBS, Dyson said that protests in Ferguson, Missouri after a white police officer shot 18-year-old Michael Brown while he was unarmed was a symptom of a larger problem in the nation.

“Ferguson is emblematic of those larger shifts,” he pointed out. “You’ve got white flight of a formerly white suburb that’s now 65 percent black. You’ve got 22 percent poverty, you’ve got the over-policing of an entire community who feel racially harassed by the police. Every 28 hours across America a black person is killed by a security guard, a police officer or some other executive of the state or police force.”

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/michael-eric-dyson-spells-it-out-white-people-police-wont-kill-your-child

spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:50 AM
Fergie PD smearing the dead kid, just like assholes here smeared Trayvon based on his selfies.
but it was perfectly cool to release Zimmerman's old mugshot and Trayvon's innocent 7 year old pictures :rollin

everybody brought up zimmerman's past issues, but are appalled when people mention brown's incident from earlier that day.

spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:52 AM
Ferguson's PD is 94% White - And That's Basically Normal in the US.
i would like to see percentages of people who apply for those positions. are there an alarmingly high number of black americans applying and getting denied from the police force? just generalizing here based on what i understand, but black folks dont tend to be fond of the pow-lice, so i doubt they're lining up to join the force

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 06:57 AM
but it was perfectly cool to release Zimmerman's old mugshot and Trayvon's innocent 7 year old pictures :rollin

everybody brought up zimmerman's past issues, but are appalled when people mention brown's incident from earlier that day.

criminalizing Trayvon and Brown, by the police and you right-wingers, as punks and thugs, to justify them being murdered is exactly the same tactic.

spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:58 AM
criminalizing Trayvon and Brown, by the police and you right-wingers, as punks and thugs, to justify them being murdered is exactly the same tactic.
i've never justified anybody being murdered. so smearing zimmerman was ok, even if they were irrelevant to the case, yet smearing brown is frowned upon? i'm just seeing a double standard to fir your agenda

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 06:58 AM
but it was perfectly cool to release Zimmerman's old mugshot and Trayvon's innocent 7 year old pictures :rollin

everybody brought up zimmerman's past issues, but are appalled when people mention brown's incident from earlier that day.

GZ was the killer. So building a case based on his violent b/g was key. Seems you don't have any problem with a rape victim being called a slut in court by the rapist's defense.

spurraider21
08-18-2014, 07:05 AM
GZ was the killer. So building a case based on his violent b/g was key.
it was argued that martin was the instigator, and his violent past was seen as "smearing" whereas it could be relevant based on the same line of reasoning.

this brown case is one where the facts aren't all out, so i can't say i have an informed opinion yet. but if we see that brown has a delinquent past (and recent past), then it would lend credance to the theory or possibility that he had a great deal to do with the escalation of events and that he was seen as a threat.


Seems you don't have any problem with a rape victim being called a slut in court by the rapist's defense.
why are you putting words in my mouth?

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 07:20 AM
"it was argued that martin was the instigator"

... by GZ's defense. GZ was the instigator and murderer for tailing Martin who reacted with "offense is the best defense". Martin has no reason NOT to SYG in the face of Z's tailing him.

CosmicCowboy
08-18-2014, 07:32 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

So much for Trills "eyewitnesses" that say Brown was shot in the back as he was running away...


Family attorney Anthony Gray said the independent autopsy conducted Sunday found that Brown was shot twice in the head and four times in the right arm -- all to the front of his body.

Read more: http://www.ksbw.com/national-news/autopsy-michael-brown-shot-at-least-6-times/27577754#ixzz3AkJbi94J

CosmicCowboy
08-18-2014, 07:34 AM
Oh well. That lying piece of shit that robbed the store with him got his 15 minutes of fame.

spurraider21
08-18-2014, 07:45 AM
"it was argued that martin was the instigator"

... by GZ's defense. GZ was the instigator and murderer for tailing Martin who reacted with "offense is the best defense". Martin has no reason NOT to SYG in the face of Z's tailing him.

wow that sounds like a whole lot of speculation... which is not enough for a conviction

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 07:46 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

So much for Trills "eyewitnesses" that say Brown was shot in the back as he was running away...



Read more: http://www.ksbw.com/national-news/autopsy-michael-brown-shot-at-least-6-times/27577754#ixzz3AkJbi94J


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where did this witness say shot in back???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8

anyways, the initial autopsy is consistent with eyewitness reports of the officer shooting mike while he surrendered. u and the rest of the kkk better start donating, doggie. he's gonna need all the help he can get lol

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 07:48 AM
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cop supporters relying on hate groups for support with no shame
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Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 08:02 AM
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historty is being made in ferguson. so proud.
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cops lied about gunshots last night and molotov cocktails. cops threw tear gas into moving car, causing 2 car wreck...1 death 2 injured. cnn, msnbc, fox aren't showing what's really happening but social media is

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Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 08:06 AM
only in amerikkka

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CosmicCowboy
08-18-2014, 08:11 AM
Yeah, shame shame on those racist redneck cops for not letting those poor blacks shoot each other and loot the neighborhood in peace.

SupremeGuy
08-18-2014, 08:18 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

So much for Trills "eyewitnesses" that say Brown was shot in the back as he was running away...



Read more: http://www.ksbw.com/national-news/autopsy-michael-brown-shot-at-least-6-times/27577754#ixzz3AkJbi94JThey'll just change the story, again.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 08:48 AM
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can someone explain how a person charging someone is shot in the ARM of all places 4 times in the same area and TWICE in the head??? most law enforcement are trained to shoot center mass when being threatened. unless mike was charging with his hands raised in the air, it doesn't make sense.

DisAsTerBot
08-18-2014, 08:52 AM
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can someone explain how a person charging someone is shot in the ARM of all places 4 times in the same area and TWICE in the head??? most law enforcement are trained to shoot center mass when being threatened. unless mike was charging with his hands raised in the air, it doesn't make sense.

his arm was raised. which is all this tells us. it doesn't tell us he was surrendering. it doesn't tell us he was charging.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 08:54 AM
cops prematurely fired tear gas into a crowd of women and children who were peacefully protesting BEFORE the 12am curfew

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cops shooting media with rubber bullets and tear gas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcCc9YRNhUU

where are the militia's to protect these citizens right to a assemble???

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 08:55 AM
his arm was raised. which is all this tells us. it doesn't tell us he was surrendering. it doesn't tell us he was charging.


arms raised is a sign of surrendering, which is consistent with several eyewitness accounts. maybe he was raising the roof???

DisAsTerBot
08-18-2014, 09:01 AM
arms raised is a sign of surrendering, which is consistent with several eyewitness accounts. maybe he was raising the roof???

ok trill i know you've made up your mind on the facts of this case... There were also accounts he was charging the officer, could his arm(s) have not also been raised in this scenario?

boutons_deux
08-18-2014, 09:04 AM
where are the militia's to protect these citizens right to a assemble???

:lol when the kitchen is REALLY REALLY hot, the Constitution-defending militia cooks stay out :lol

CosmicCowboy
08-18-2014, 09:07 AM
Poor babies just wanted a little milk...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSYR2VIMAEEhcm.jpg:large

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:09 AM
ok trill i know you've made up your mind on the facts of this case... There were also accounts he was charging the officer, could his arm(s) have not also been raised in this scenario?

there is ONE account by someone in the background of the video. when we get multiple accounts from eyewitnesses in front of the camera then i'd take that narrative a little serious.

i'm not saying i know all the facts yet. i'm just going with evidence and eyewitness accounts.

DisAsTerBot
08-18-2014, 09:11 AM
there is ONE account by someone in the background of the video. when we get multiple accounts from eyewitnesses in front of the camera then i'd take that narrative a little serious.

i'm not saying i know all the facts yet. i'm just going with evidence and eyewitness accounts.

i wonder why that guy hasn't brought his account to the forefront?

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:13 AM
:lol when the kitchen is REALLY REALLY hot, the Constitution-defending militia cooks stay out :lol

exactly.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:14 AM
Poor babies just wanted a little milk...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSYR2VIMAEEhcm.jpg:large

i'd do the same thing if i saw women and children get bombarded with tear gas...i'm sure most men would..well, except you of course.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:18 AM
uh oh

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CosmicCowboy
08-18-2014, 09:23 AM
i'd do the same thing if i saw women and children get bombarded with tear gas...i'm sure most men would..well, except you of course.

:lmao

I don't see those goons in gas masks "pouring milk on the eyes of innocent women and children"

I see exactly what the picture shows. A bunch of blacks looting a McDonalds.

You are fucking pathetic.

pgardn
08-18-2014, 09:32 AM
Why would women and children be out in this sort of situation?
So I want to protest and I take my wife and child into a dangerous situation?
I thought you said protestors were having to guard businesses ?

pgardn
08-18-2014, 09:34 AM
Oh well. That lying piece of shit that robbed the store with him got his 15 minutes of fame.

This is pathetic as well.

FromWayDowntown
08-18-2014, 09:37 AM
Not that anyone really cares, but I'm all over the place on this fiasco. I haven't followed any of this closely, but this has undoubtedly become a world-class clusterfuck.

Obviously, the people on the ground are in the wrong for escalating what could be meaningful civil disobedience into criminal mischief. At the same time, the way the situation has been handled -- the seeming indifference to their anger and the vicious reaction to its percolation -- is precisely the sort of thing that tends to perpetuate itself. Won't defend looting or violence at all, but their anger strikes me as understandable. I think the PD in Ferguson has handled this abysmally from beginning and bear at least some responsibility for the fact that this has continued as long as it has. If they had elected to simply put out objective facts from the get-go, rather than trying to defend and protect their guy, I suspect these spikes in the protesting wouldn't have happened.

The bigger problem here is that somehow, our societal norm seems to now favor the use of deadly force as a deterrent -- without regard to the severity of the risk posed by the person against whom that force is used. Even if Michael Brown had robbed a store, assaulted a cop, or tried to flee an arrest, there's simply no justification (to me) in any of that for shooting him. If he gets away, he can be pursued and arrested. He didn't present any obvious sort of risk to the lives of innocents that would necessitate the use of lethal force against him in any way. There are other ways to "get your man."

The use of force in that circumstance should be commensurate with the urgency of the need to subdue the suspect and no more; a kid who's been stopped for petty "criminal" conduct shouldn't be subjected to lethal force unless the life of the officer or someone else is clearly and unequivocally in imminent danger -- and that couldn't possibly be true of a suspect who was shot at something other than very close range.

Being a scared cop doesn't give a person license to take a life; if he was scared to the point that shooting at least 6 times was his only means of coping, he needed to find another line of work. He's supposed to be protecting the public, not acting as judge, jury, and executioner.

We've become far too tolerant, I think, of the use of deadly force in too many situations.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:38 AM
:lmao

I don't see those goons in gas masks "pouring milk on the eyes of innocent women and children"

I see exactly what the picture shows. A bunch of blacks looting a McDonalds.

You are fucking pathetic.

i don't see them looting in the photo you posted. looks like a bunch of men standing around.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:39 AM
Why would women and children be out in this sort of situation?
So I want to protest and I take my wife and child into a dangerous situation?
I thought you said protestors were having to guard businesses ?

at 8pm the police started throwing tear gas into the crowds. this was a peak time of the peaceful protesting.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:41 AM
john oliver dropping truth bombs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A

pgardn
08-18-2014, 09:48 AM
I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.

That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.

Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.

Guns in hand during heat of the moment situations lead to some very difficult decision making, even for police officers that have been trained.

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 09:50 AM
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pgardn
08-18-2014, 09:51 AM
at 8pm the police started throwing tear gas into the crowds. this was a peak time of the peaceful protesting.

My question still stands.

Are you taking your wife and kid to protest knowing (from your facts) that the police have lost control?

pgardn
08-18-2014, 09:55 AM
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Police officers should never remove their badges and name tags.
We are already clear on that, remember, the good cops arrived?

Trill Clinton
08-18-2014, 10:01 AM
My question still stands.

Are you taking your wife and kid to protest knowing (from your facts) that the police have lost control?

YES

last night was the 1st time they threw gas before the curfew. noone expected it.

Aztecfan03
08-18-2014, 10:07 AM
Another black thug murdered, unarmed (and mentally deficient), of course

Hundreds protest fatal police shooting of unarmed black man in Los Angele

About 500 people protested outside Los Angeles police headquarters on Sunday over the shooting death of an unarmed black man in California as disturbances continued in Missouri over the police killing of a black teenager there last week.

Ezell Ford, 25, was killed by police in Los Angeles on Monday, two days after 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot dead by a police officer in the St. Louis suburb where he lived.

“He was a humble guy,” said Ford’s cousin, Ceebo Ship, 22.

Ship and other family members said Ford suffered from an unspecified mental illness and was “slower than the rest of us,” and a gentle person who loved basketball.

Ford’s family said he was cooperating with officers and lying on the ground when shot. The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) said Ford had struggled with officers and was trying to grab one of their guns when he was shot.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/18/hundreds-protest-fatal-police-shooting-of-unarmed-black-man-in-los-angeles/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




why are you posting stories of people getting themselves killed?

Aztecfan03
08-18-2014, 10:18 AM
where did this witness say shot in back???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8


Listen to 2:00-2:10. Says he was shot and then turned around and the officer fired 7 more shots. SO according to the witness, that is at least one shot in the back.