Roster - Remaining Spots

[cantthinkofanything]

While I agree that the Spurs are likely in that rumor to bait others to join in the chase, any real pursuit of Boozer would suggest that the West thing is over.

I can't see the Spurs devoting resources to two relatively similar players like West and Boozer.

"relatively similar"...LOL.

relative to what? color?

[Beaverfuzz]

at least take him out to dinner first

Sure, take him out to dinner and then just leave him there.


Fuck Carlos Boozer too!

[hater]

Anybody but Cancer Loozer please

[Vic Petro]

Andre Miller can rack up assist numbers but he hardly facilitates an offense. His game is dribble dribble dribble. No thanks. I'd rather roll with Wolters tbh.

[hater]

40 year old miller > 2015 Porker

[HarlemHeat37]

Andre Miller is a huge cancer, tbh..extremely ball-dominant, can't play off ball, only posts up, has a big ego, etc..

And pass on Boozer..he isn't a bad basketball player, but everything about him screams loser..

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Boozer and West rumor came out at pretty much the same time on the 4th. Spurs are exploring all options like GREAT management should.

But I think West to the Spurs is very much alive. It was Warriors or Spurs. Warriors said no, and now it Spurs or Cavs. Cavs are logged rammed right now with Bigman. At this juncture, no doubt West would chose the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would take Amare, Scola, Bargnani, Jason Smith, etc over Boozer, tbh..

[FireMicoHalili]

haven't seen anyone even remotely interested in Andrea Bargnani

ALSO: Logjam upfront with the Cavs, agreed, but Spurs have Diaw and Aldridge to slot in at PF. How does West fit in the Spurs' frontcourt? Lots of writers (Matt Moore, Jeff McDonald, to name some) pointed out they need a legit center.

[Vic Petro]

I would take Amare, Scola, Bargnani, Jason Smith, etc over Boozer, tbh..

Agreed. Or Aldrich or Withey.

[NASpurs]

Andre Miller is a huge cancer, tbh..extremely ball-dominant, can't play off ball, only posts up, has a big ego, etc..

And pass on Boozer..he isn't a bad basketball player, but everything about him screams loser..

He lost his starting spot on a shitty Lakers team last year. He fucking sucks. :lol

[timtonymanu]

No to Miller, he's even more dribble dribble than Enrique.

[timtonymanu]

And I don't want any of Boozer's "Get in there, Joe," on the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

haven't seen anyone even remotely interested in Andrea Bargnani

It's a little strange IMO..he has a poor reputation, but he was actually really solid in his 30 games or so with the Knicks, last year..I would have assumed that there would be teams that could use his scoring off the bench..

Atrocious rebounder and team defender, but still a very solid scorer..

[cantthinkofanything]

Andre Miller is a huge cancer, tbh..extremely ball-dominant, can't play off ball, only posts up, has a big ego, etc..
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great. then Spurs shouldn't have to readjust from the current PG.

[Chinook]

Withey. Seriously. The dude seems like the next in line from Green, James Johnson and Whiteside. Crazy potential, but has some issues with "getting it". Seems like a great guy to at least try out as the fifth big.

But I echo Hansbrough as an option. He's in a similar boat as Ellington in that he may sign up for a one-year deal because Green recruits him. He has at least as much talent as Baynes does, so I think a good year or two in the Spurs system can help him get another decent contract.

[Beaverfuzz]

Bonner > Boozer

WHA WHA?

[DesignatedT]

I like the idea of Hansbrough as well. He's a skilled player who plays hard, physical and has good size. Something the Spurs are certainly going to need.

If they could somehow swing West and Hansbrough as well as bringing Bonner back they would have a very formidable front line.

[beirmeistr]

Withey. Seriously. The dude seems like the next in line from Green, James Johnson and Whiteside. Crazy potential, but has some issues with "getting it". Seems like a great guy to at least try out as the fifth big.

But I echo Hansbrough as an option. He's in a similar boat as Ellington in that he may sign up for a one-year deal because Green recruits him. He has at least as much talent as Baynes does, so I think a good year or two in the Spurs system can help him get another decent contract.
would he take the min?

[SpursFan86]

I co-sign the Withey idea from Chinook. Young big with potential who could end up being a legitimate backup C. Has good size to bang with some of the bigger centers if need be. Him and Aldrich are probably my top 2 most wanted centers.

Hell no to Andre Miller. We're already likely banking on KA to get non-garbage time minutes...now y'all want to add a 40 year-old PG who's even slower? Miller/Mills/KA or even Miller/Mills/Manu would be horrible defensively.

No thanks on the Boozer idea...just having to hear him yell "and-1!!!" all season is enough to make me say hell no.

[Maddog]

Agreed. Or Aldrich or Withey.

Aldrich has pretty good Stats per 36 minutes
Of course bad team and I can't remember anything about him...

[Spurs9]

I wouldn't want boozer even if we could get him for free.

[Rev Hill]

I like the idea of Hansbrough as well. He's a skilled player who plays hard, physical and has good size. Something the Spurs are certainly going to need.

If they could somehow swing West and Hansbrough as well as bringing Bonner back they would have a very formidable front line.

I like Hansbrough as well, but not sure I would classify that frontline as very formidable. I would say very serviceable. My concern is there isn't the proven rim protector coming off the bench. Hansbrough isn't much of a shot blocker, Bonner no, West average. Just need a tad more length, but for vet min salaries, we need to take most overall productive players we can get, despite deficiencies in an area or two. I do disagree on Boozer. I think the guy can still play and put him on a team with a legit title shot I think he comes here focused and zoned in. But agree he is fall back if we don't get West.

I do like the rumor out there that the Spurs are talking to Mo Williams. Just wondering how he and Patty would be utilized?

[Chinook]

would he take the min?

He was making the min in NO, and they withdrew the QO. So yes, I think he would.

[-21-]

Withey. Seriously. The dude seems like the next in line from Green, James Johnson and Whiteside. Crazy potential, but has some issues with "getting it". Seems like a great guy to at least try out as the fifth big.

But I echo Hansbrough as an option. He's in a similar boat as Ellington in that he may sign up for a one-year deal because Green recruits him. He has at least as much talent as Baynes does, so I think a good year or two in the Spurs system can help him get another decent contract.
I remember wanting the Spurs to draft Withey back then. Not much offensively but defensively he seems like a solid prospect. He'll probably struggle to stay in front of athletic guards but his rim protection alone makes him very intriguing (he also played volleyball). Unfortunately, there have been questions about his mentality. Seems to lack the focus and hunger it takes to make it. IIRC he thought about quitting basketball as a teenager.

[-21-]

I like the idea of Hansbrough as well. He's a skilled player who plays hard, physical and has good size. Something the Spurs are certainly going to need.

If they could somehow swing West and Hansbrough as well as bringing Bonner back they would have a very formidable front line.
Hansbrough is solid but with Duncan/Aldridge/Diaw/West/Bonner the Spurs could use a true center for the last big. Someone with length and shot blocking.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not as concerned about the shot blocking, tbh, I just want productive bigs..

Duncan still gets 2+ BPG, Aldridge will get you 1 per game, Kawhi has length, and Green is the best shot-blocking guard in the NBA..

However, if the Spurs do opt for another offensive-minded big like West, I'd rather they use the remaining perimeter spots on a potential defender off the bench, though..can't rely on Green/Leonard at every moment like they have the past 2-3 years..

[NASpurs]

Not that there was any doubt that Manu was coming back (maybe a little) but at least the roster is slowly filling out and things are becoming clearer. :smokin

[raybies]

Parker/Mills
Green/Manu
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/

Just need a backup center now

[-21-]

I'm not as concerned about the shot blocking, tbh, I just want productive bigs..

Duncan still gets 2+ BPG, Aldridge will get you 1 per game, Kawhi has length, and Green is the best shot-blocking guard in the NBA..

However, if the Spurs do opt for another offensive-minded big like West, I'd rather they use the remaining perimeter spots on a potential defender off the bench, though..can't rely on Green/Leonard at every moment like they have the past 2-3 years..
Yeah, I phrased that wrong. It's not so much shot blocking that I'm worried about, rather it's having another defensive big besides Duncan. Not sure what to expect from Aldridge defensively tbh, West (assuming he joins the team) is capable but he's kinda undersized and is getting up there in age.

[HarlemHeat37]

Aldridge isn't a great defender, but he's not Kevin Love or David Lee, not even close, tbh:lol..he's above average when he's giving effort, and he ranked as one of the best post defenders in the league, last year, IIRC, albeit probably against weaker offensive players(assuming Lopez guarded the better big most of the time)..

[SpursFan86]

It's a shame LMA doesn't like playing center...he's a great rim protector and post defender, and he has the size to match up with basically every guy he'd come across. Unfortunately for us, he's only average when it comes PnR defense. Given TD's age, it'd be nice if he were a Bosh-esque PnR defender, but oh well. Overall I'd definitely say he's above average, and it's not crazy to think that he might improve while playing alongside Duncan and under Popovich. Who knows, maybe he'll get over himself and be open to playing more center. Diaw/Aldridge duo would work really well IMO.

I second the notion of going after a decent perimeter defender. Someone like Dorell Wright would be great, although I'd be shocked if he doesn't get a bigger deal. It makes me really uneasy knowing we're a Green/Kawhi injury away from having our perimeter defense completely ruined.

[SupremeGuy]

I like the idea of Hansbrough as well. He's a skilled player who plays hard, physical and has good size. Something the Spurs are certainly going to need.

If they could somehow swing West and Hansbrough as well as bringing Bonner back they would have a very formidable front line.This is what I'm hoping for, but with less Bonner.

[024]

Spurs needs at least one more pure 3 pt shooter not named Bonner. On the current roster only I only have confidence in Green and Mills to reliably hit a 3. Leonard needs to get back to at least 37%. Diaw is hit or miss on 3's. Ginobili has been declining on 3's for a while. Aldridge might take some 3's actually but I think he's only shooting around 35%.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Aldridge isn't a great defender, but he's not Kevin Love or David Lee, not even close, tbh:lol..he's above average when he's giving effort, and he ranked as one of the best post defenders in the league, last year, IIRC, albeit probably against weaker offensive players(assuming Lopez guarded the better big most of the time)..

And let's not pretend like he won't get coached up to some extent either...

[SupremeGuy]

Parker/Mills
Green/Manu
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/

Just need a backup center nowThat'd be fine if Pop didn't rest his starters so much and no one ever got injured. We're going to need depth.

[DPG21920]

Withey. Seriously. The dude seems like the next in line from Green, James Johnson and Whiteside. Crazy potential, but has some issues with "getting it". Seems like a great guy to at least try out as the fifth big.

But I echo Hansbrough as an option. He's in a similar boat as Ellington in that he may sign up for a one-year deal because Green recruits him. He has at least as much talent as Baynes does, so I think a good year or two in the Spurs system can help him get another decent contract.

I agree - he's an intriguing player for a 4th big for sure

[HarlemHeat37]

Surprised I haven't heard any Jeff Ayres rumors, tbh:wow

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Spurs just need a competent big that can bang with Howard in case Tim is in foul trouble. Any of those out there?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Fuck Jeff Ayers tbh:lol

[beirmeistr]

He was making the min in NO, and they withdrew the QO. So yes, I think he would.

ok

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm not as concerned about the shot blocking, tbh, I just want productive bigs..

Duncan still gets 2+ BPG, Aldridge will get you 1 per game, Kawhi has length, and Green is the best shot-blocking guard in the NBA..

However, if the Spurs do opt for another offensive-minded big like West, I'd rather they use the remaining perimeter spots on a potential defender off the bench, though..can't rely on Green/Leonard at every moment like they have the past 2-3 years..

I'm hoping they look into Luc Mbah Moute. He's exactly what they need. IMO

[GSH]

I wouldn't want boozer even if we could get him for free.

Boozer is a cancer. Not many players are as capable of destroying team chemistry.



I like the idea of Hansbrough as well. He's a skilled player who plays hard, physical and has good size. Something the Spurs are certainly going to need.

If they could somehow swing West and Hansbrough as well as bringing Bonner back they would have a very formidable front line.


Hansbrough is a nasty bastard. Good to hammer, and hack, and get DeAndre Jordan types to draw a technical, or commit a flagrant. He'd be playing against other subs, so he's probably serviceable. I'd hate to rely on him for long minutes, if one of our guys got injured. But if there isn't a reasonable C out there, I'd take Hansbrough over a lot of what's left. He's a guy you can tolerate, if he's on your team. You probably don't like the shit he does, if he's on the team you're playing.

[GSH]

I wouldn't want boozer even if we could get him for free.

[QUOTE=HarlemHeat37;8094388]I'm not as concerned about the shot blocking, tbh, I just want productive bigs..

Duncan still gets 2+ BPG, Aldridge will get you 1 per game, Kawhi has length, and Green is the best shot-blocking guard in the NBA..

[QUOTE]


With Aldridge in there, Green's weak side shot-blocking is likely to be epic, for a guard. Hadn't said it, but I've thought it several times. If these guys mesh, there are going to be a lot of synergies. Danny Green's shot-blocking is one of the first that came to mind.

[HarlemHeat37]

Asked about the advice he seeks from Danny, Gerald said: “This is a great team. When you got family that you can talk to about certain situations, to see how he does or (what the Spurs) do in a situations, why not pick the brain? I’m just glad he’s able to share advice as far as how they prepare, how they work … all that stuff carries over to the games. That’s why it’s not surprising this organization is one of the best organizations since I’ve been around.”

Do it, tbh..

[NASpurs]

Asked about the advice he seeks from Danny, Gerald said: “This is a great team. When you got family that you can talk to about certain situations, to see how he does or (what the Spurs) do in a situations, why not pick the brain? I’m just glad he’s able to share advice as far as how they prepare, how they work … all that stuff carries over to the games. That’s why it’s not surprising this organization is one of the best organizations since I’ve been around.”

Do it, tbh..

Oh man that would be so great

[NASpurs]

:lmao add another one to the roster spot

[raybies]

Parker/ Mills
Green/ Manu
Leonard/ Anderson
Aldridge/ Diaw
Duncan/ West

Who else will jump on the bandwagon? Prince? Green?

[cd98]

Need one backup wing (Prince, Butler) and one center (Smith) at minimum deals. Fill the rest with D-league players.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This thread ended with the West signing?

[raybies]

Parker/Mills/Bertans
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw/LJC
Duncan/West/LaLanne
?? Does this work for anyone?? And then sign Butler or Prince. I know it's one game but some insurance at the three wouldn't hurt.

[Mr. Body]

It's a little strange IMO..he has a poor reputation, but he was actually really solid in his 30 games or so with the Knicks, last year..I would have assumed that there would be teams that could use his scoring off the bench..

Atrocious rebounder and team defender, but still a very solid scorer..

Check out how many (few) games he's played in the last five seasons.

[Uriel]

With David West's signing, the floodgates have opened for veterans in the tail end of their career looking to chase a championship ring.

Some intriguing options whom the Spurs have reportedly shown interest in: Tayshuan Prince, Carlos Boozer, Caron Butler.

[HarlemHeat37]

With David West's signing, the floodgates have opened for veterans in the tail end of their career looking to chase a championship ring.

Some intriguing options whom the Spurs have reportedly shown interest in: Tayshuan Prince, Carlos Boozer, Caron Butler.

Hey bro, you forgot to list the intriguing options, tbh:lol..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

With David West's signing, the floodgates have opened for veterans in the tail end of their career looking to chase a championship ring.

Some intriguing options whom the Spurs have reportedly shown interest in: Tayshuan Prince, Carlos Boozer, Caron Butler.

No thanks. Got enough old guys. I'd rather bring in youth for end of the bench filler.

[Uriel]

Hey bro, you forgot to list the intriguing options, tbh:lol..
Witty. :lol


No thanks. Got enough old guys. I'd rather bring in youth for end of the bench filler.
Seriously though, as much as we all want young, blossoming talent to fill the end of the bench, guys like that just won't come to the Spurs for the veteran minimum. They're looking to kickstart their careers and earn a big payday, not sit at the end of the bench and scrap for playing time.

At this point, our best bet is to look for veterans at the tail end of their career looking to chase a championship ring. Spurs management seems to agree, which is why they've reached out to the guys I mentioned.

[Mugen]

Wayne Ellington is my ideal guy for the minimum tbh. Hopefully Danny can put in a good word with the FO and with Wayne.

[TE]

Asked about the advice he seeks from Danny, Gerald said: “This is a great team. When you got family that you can talk to about certain situations, to see how he does or (what the Spurs) do in a situations, why not pick the brain? I’m just glad he’s able to share advice as far as how they prepare, how they work … all that stuff carries over to the games. That’s why it’s not surprising this organization is one of the best organizations since I’ve been around.”

Do it, tbh..
He would be really good here. Probably fit well too.

[keepinitwill]

Ish Smith wouldn't be a bad pickup.

[DAF86]

Starters
1 Parker
2 Green
3 Leonard
4 Aldridge
5 Duncan

Bench
1 FA
1/2 Mills
2/3 Ginobili
3 Anderson
4 FA
4/5 Diaw
5 FA

Hence the reported interest in West, Stoudemire, and Lin. Unless Ginobili is just done, I think he comes back now for one more season. Joseph will be a cap casualty.

Bench 1- Mills son, Patty needs to be the bench PG, period. Pop needs to stop fucking around and assure Mills the back up PG position, no matter what. If he starts the season shaky, stick with him and allow him to work his game up. He's a game changer.

[Mugen]

Patty is the backup PG, there's literally nobody the Spurs could bring in that could replace him now that Cojo is gone.....

My ideal 3rd unit:
PG - FA signing / Open Roster Spot in case of injury
SG - Wayne Ellington
SF - LJC
PF - Bonner :lol
C - Lalanne or another cheap project big

Ellington is another shooter....LJC adds another defender....and Bonner is immortal.

[apalisoc_9]

No more Bonner!

I've been defending the guy the whole season last year, but he serves no purpose with West and Aldridge in the team.

Would rather see both Lalanne and Livio.

[Mugen]

:lol you can't kill Matty tbh, there's no point in arguing.

[random21]

Small guards left....

Jason Richardson
J.R. Smith
Jason Terry
Ben Gordon
Austin Rivers
Willie Green
John Jenkins
Alan Anderson
Donald Sloan
Jeff Taylor
Will Barton
Wayne Ellington
Nick Calathes
Ian Clark
Glen Robinson III
Vander Blue

[L.I.T]

Donald Sloan, Dorell Wright, Jeff Withey I think are realistic youngish experienced targets who would be available at the vets minimum. Throw Bonner in there and some development talent and Spurs will call it an off-season.

[spurtech09]

JR Smith come on down......

[outmap]

I like Jeff Whitey, he's one of the few true centers available who's fairly young. A really good defensive player who's not a liability on the offense.
At the wing, Wayne Ellington is probably the best talent available, I'm not sure if he's willing to take the minimum though.
Point guards that are available right now are trash, good thing TP and Patty are enough with Manu and Boris helping out. A good 3rd stringer/insurance though is Andre Miller, and I bet he's willing to take the min for a chance at a ring.
The rest should be either LJC, Cady and/or Bertans then we're set.

[myhc]

No more Bonner!

I've been defending the guy the whole season last year, but he serves no purpose with West and Aldridge in the team.

Would rather see both Lalanne and Livio.

As your 5th big, a guy who won't see minutes, who knows the system, can shoot the 3, and is actually a passable defender and will sign for the vet minimum? I don't mind Bonner coming back.

[G-Dawgg]

We're going to end up with Gary Neal and Bonner on minimum contracts to round out the roster...

[BillMc]

We're going to end up with Gary Neal and Bonner on minimum contracts to round out the roster...

Is Neal a FA?

[G-Dawgg]

.

[G-Dawgg]

Actually no nevermind, I just checked. He's already signed with Washington for 1 year $2.1 mil

[NASpurs]

Hopefully Danny Green can convince his cousin (Gerald Green) to take the minimum for a year in order to get better paid the following year :smokin

Mills
Manu
Gerald Green
West
Bobo

:wow

[ceperez]

Parker/Mills/Bertans
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw/LJC
Duncan/West/LaLanne
?? Does this work for anyone?? And then sign Butler or Prince. I know it's one game but some insurance at the three wouldn't hurt.

This will work for me:

Parker/Mills/Eddie
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw/LJC
Duncan/West/LaLanne

13 Players. I think LJC should be part of his team for his defensive skills... 6 blocks in 23 minutes of play? I don't think Ayres got 6 blocks the entire time he played in Summer League.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If I were to pick LJC or Lalanne, I'd pick Lalanne. Dude is taller and certainly more of a center, which the Spurs need. At the very minimum he'd be an adequate Baynes replacement (funnily enough, he's a foul-a-minute guy like Baynes.... EIGHT FOULS in an exhibition game? lol)

[BillMc]

Actually no nevermind, I just checked. He's already signed with Washington for 1 year $2.1 mil

Thanks

[ceperez]

If I were to pick LJC or Lalanne, I'd pick Lalanne. Dude is taller and certainly more of a center, which the Spurs need. At the very minimum he'd be an adequate Baynes replacement (funnily enough, he's a foul-a-minute guy like Baynes.... EIGHT FOULS in an exhibition game? lol)

LJC had 6 blocks, two against Okafor. LJC absolutely has to be on the team.

Lalanne, as much as the Spurs need a center today, needs a year to refine his game. He has to get bigger, improve his footwork and how he holds the ball.

[buttsR4rebounding]

LJC had 6 blocks, two against Okafor. LJC absolutely has to be on the team.

Lalanne, as much as the Spurs need a center today, needs a year to refine his game. He has to get bigger, improve his footwork and how he holds the ball.

And as I understand it, LJC can force the Spurs' hand and force them to offer him a contract or lose his rights. Since his deal would be more than the rookie minimum would Duncan have to take even less to accommodate this?

[Darkwaters]

6 blocks in 23 minutes of play? I don't think Ayres got 6 blocks the entire time he played in Summer League.

Jeff Ayres had 8 blocks all last season (in 383 minutes)

[Chinook]

If I were to pick LJC or Lalanne, I'd pick Lalanne. Dude is taller and certainly more of a center, which the Spurs need. At the very minimum he'd be an adequate Baynes replacement (funnily enough, he's a foul-a-minute guy like Baynes.... EIGHT FOULS in an exhibition game? lol)

I don't know about you, but I couldn't tell them apart seeing them on the court. LaLanne may be taller but not by much, and LJC's athletic advantage definitely makes him seem like a higher-ceiling defender. LJC also has the advantage is mobility, which means helping in PnR defense better than LaLanne likely. That's a huge need with Splitter gone.

But they should both make the team, so this is moot.

[Jdspur20]

Gerald green would be a phenomenal pick up but I don't see him signing for he min. Tayshaun Prince would be a great back up 3 for defense purposes at this point.

[raybies]

What intrigues me about Livio the most is his potential as a D option in small ball. In order to get past teams like Golden State, OKC, and Cleveland, we'll have to go small and he could play sf to c. I mean if GS played Draymond at C, he could do it too, right? How would he match up against Kevin Durant is what I'd like to know or Lebron for that matter. Cause if he can guard any of the above players mentioned, he could be serviceable already. Situational but he'd get minutes i think. I would love to see him and Kyle compete for the backup spot. I think the risk would be worth it for the potential reward. And it would be higher than a Prince or Butler.

[ceperez]

What intrigues me about Livio the most is his potential as a D option in small ball. In order to get past teams like Golden State, OKC, and Cleveland, we'll have to go small and he could play sf to c. I mean if GS played Draymond at C, he could do it too, right? How would he match up against Kevin Durant is what I'd like to know or Lebron for that matter. Cause if he can guard any of the above players mentioned, he could be serviceable already. Situational but he'd get minutes i think. I would love to see him and Kyle compete for the backup spot. I think the risk would be worth it for the potential reward. And it would be higher than a Prince or Butler.

Kyle Anderson has no chance guarding Lebron or Durant.

For small ball however, he can easily back down any of the smaller guards. Just watch the clip of him destroy the Blazer guards.

[hater]

I'm liking tayshawn

A reenergized tayshawn would fit nicely. 10 mins a game tops

[Russ]

I don't know about you, but I couldn't tell them apart seeing them on the court.

It didn't help that one was No. 26 and the other was 28.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What intrigues me about Livio the most is his potential as a D option in small ball. In order to get past teams like Golden State, OKC, and Cleveland, we'll have to go small and he could play sf to c. I mean if GS played Draymond at C, he could do it too, right? How would he match up against Kevin Durant is what I'd like to know or Lebron for that matter. Cause if he can guard any of the above players mentioned, he could be serviceable already. Situational but he'd get minutes i think. I would love to see him and Kyle compete for the backup spot. I think the risk would be worth it for the potential reward. And it would be higher than a Prince or Butler.

Kyle's a slow man in a quick man's game. He isn't going to ever be a backup for this team at the NBA level. He'll play out his time in Austin and then quietly go overseas (unless some dumb team like Detroit decides to give him $30 mil like they did Baynes).

[Mugen]

I've got a better chance of playing on this team than Gerald Green tbh.

[couchman]

I'm not seeing many backup Center options out there. What are we thinking there Spurs fans?

Kendrick Perkins?
Cole Aldrich?
Nazr Mohammed! haha lol

[NASpurs]

I've got a better chance of playing on this team than Gerald Green tbh.

:lol how's your 3 point shot?

[lmbebo]

I'd do Sepharin if available. If not Aldrich, last option Perkins.

[Russ]

I'm not seeing many backup Center options out there. What are we thinking there Spurs fans?

Kendrick Perkins?
Cole Aldrich?
Nazr Mohammed! haha lol

I keep coming back to this Walter Tavares. Is he still stuck in Atlanta?

[ChumpDumper]

I keep coming back to this Walter Tavares. Is he still stuck in Atlanta?He's signing with the Hawks if he hasn't already.

He's listed on their Vegas roster.

The dream is dead, folks.

[ceperez]

I'd do Sepharin if available. If not Aldrich, last option Perkins.

Seraphin has zero moves and zero BB IQ.

[SpursFan86]

He's signing with the Hawks if he hasn't already.

He's listed on their Vegas roster.

The dream is dead, folks.

Motherfuckers just do not want to let him go :lol

[Timothy21]

Hi everybody

Miller
Prince
Dalembert
Bonner - Ayres

[buttsR4rebounding]

I'm not seeing many backup Center options out there. What are we thinking there Spurs fans?

Kendrick Perkins?
Cole Aldrich?
Nazr Mohammed! haha lol
Although he is listed as a C/F and isn't the bulky guy we need for teams like Memphis and Houston, I think Tyler Hansborough could be a good fit for this team. Hustle guy who will do the dirty work. I don't know how good he is defending the Pick and Roll, but really seems like a "Spurs Guy".

[Mugen]

:lol how's your 3 point shot?

I've got all my fingers at least.

[spursince#99]

What's Samuel Dalembert up to these days?

[Russ]

He's signing with the Hawks if he hasn't already.

He's listed on their Vegas roster.

The dream is dead, folks.

Still could be compensation for Splitter . . .

(Okay, I'm a dreamer.)

[buttsR4rebounding]

Hi everybody

Miller
Prince
Dalembert
Bonner - Ayres

I actually think Ayres may be a consideration. He actually played better the last third of the year, knows the system, could be had for the minimum.

[spursince#99]

I don't know about you, but I couldn't tell them apart seeing them on the court. LaLanne may be taller but not by much, and LJC's athletic advantage definitely makes him seem like a higher-ceiling defender. LJC also has the advantage is mobility, which means helping in PnR defense better than LaLanne likely. That's a huge need with Splitter gone.

But they should both make the team, so this is moot.


You really think this happens? I can see LJC making the team for all the reasons you just mentioned but I can't see LaLanne making this team this year.

[ceperez]

I actually think Ayres may be a consideration. He actually played better the last third of the year, knows the system, could be had for the minimum.

Bonner is your 'corporate knowledge' token guy.

Livio Jean-Charles has has more length, hops and quickness compared to Ayres. He's coming in with a rookie salary less than $1m per.

Not sure if Lalanne will accept a draft and stash, he's still raw and needs at least a year to get his technique down. The team though needs backup centers, so maybe it may be worth the risk.

As it stands today:

Parker / Mills / <???>
Green / Ginobili / <Eddie>
Leonard / Anderson / <Prince>
Aldridge / Diaw / <LJC>
Duncan / West / <Bonner> / <Lalanne>

5 slots till open... will Spurs add youth? Where will Spurs find a serviceable center?

[Chinook]

You really think this happens? I can see LJC making the team for all the reasons you just mentioned but I can't see LaLanne making this team this year.

It's all about what he wants to do. I think he's good enough to get into camp and get a couple of d-league call ups. He may not want to go overseas. I think he makes more sense than getting another old big.

[ChumpDumper]

Still could be compensation for Splitter . . .

(Okay, I'm a dreamer.)No, he can't.

[NASpurs]

I've got all my fingers at least.

:lol

http://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/green_gerald640.jpg

[GermanSpursFan]

Nate Robinson ? :lol

[macdude06]

Nick Van Excel and Tyrus Thomas!

[mando6599]

Does anyone here have the scoop on Amare's chances of being signed here or any serviceable PG to back up Parker? Amare's about the dumbest pro player I've ever watched, but if he signed for vet min. then that would probably be the smartest thing he's ever done.

[ceperez]

Does anyone here have the scoop on Amare's chances of being signed here or any serviceable PG to back up Parker? Amare's about the dumbest pro player I've ever watched, but if he signed for vet min. then that would probably be the smartest thing he's ever done.

Amare doesn't have anywhere near the athleticism he once had. Pass.

[Ditty]

I'm not seeing many backup Center options out there. What are we thinking there Spurs fans?

Kendrick Perkins?
Cole Aldrich?
Nazr Mohammed! haha lol

I could live with Kendrick Perkins....for a few minutes :lol. Still in his prime, good post defender, and going to finally play for a good coach in over five years. Needs to keep his shit together though.

Cole Aldrich would be another nice player. Seems like a good kid, good defender/rebounder, high basketball IQ, has a nice little post up hook shot. Small sample size though, and played on a horrible Knicks team, but being the 11th pick in the draft you must have shown something. Not very athletic either but I think he can do everything Baynes can do or even better.

Dalembert wouldn't be a bad pick up also. Nazr Mohammed :nope.

[monkeypunk]

Any chance our first from this year comes over? Splitter clone, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Cole Aldrich would be ideal and seems like the kind of fundamentally sound "nice guy" the Spurs would be interested in. Not very athletic, but has a good feel for the game and is definitely good enough to be a backup C at the end of the bench. I think he might be just a tad out of our price range at this point though.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86qWYQYmrNQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQ3B_tnEGk

[ceperez]

I could live with Kendrick Perkins....for a few minutes :lol. Still in his prime, good post defender, and going to finally play for a good coach in over five years. Needs to keep his shit together though.

Cole Aldrich would be another nice player. Seems like a good kid, good defender/rebounder, high basketball IQ, has a nice little post up hook shot. Small sample size though, and played on a horrible Knicks team, but being the 11th pick in the draft you must have shown something. Not very athletic either but I think he can do everything Baynes can do or even better.

Dalembert wouldn't be a bad pick up also. Nazr Mohammed :nope.

Did you not know that Perkins was on the bench for the Cavs. Despite having a depleted lineup, he never played a single minute in the playoffs.

He is pretty much done.

[ceperez]

Cole Aldrich would be ideal and seems like the kind of fundamentally sound "nice guy" the Spurs would be interested in. Not very athletic, but has a good feel for the game and is definitely good enough to be a backup C at the end of the bench. I think he might be just a tad out of our price range at this point though.



At his stage of his career, he's not going to take the veteran minimum. Not likely unless nobody else signs him.

I think Spurs aren't going to sign Bonner until they've exhausted all options with other vets. Same thing happened last year.

[GermanSpursFan]

No Perkins please :bang

[Ditty]

Did you not know that Perkins was on the bench for the Cavs. Despite having a depleted lineup, he never played a single minute in the playoffs.

He is pretty much done.

Well it's not like we have a lot of choices of big men in the first place tbh..

Outside of Pau Gasol the Cavs never really played a big man with a post presence, they were of course fortunate to have two very good big men defenders in Mozgov and Thompson.

We need someone else that can body up the Dwight's, and Gasol's of the division, and conference.

[Mugen]

Perk ain't a bad option. His teammates have always loved him and a good locker room guy. Wouldn't mind him for the min. at all tbh

[cd021]

Dalembert (Depth)
Bonner (same)
Lalanne
LJC
Prince

2 PG
2 SG
4 SF (KL, Slo-Mo, Prince, LJC
4 PF (LA, Boris, West Bonner)
3 C (Duncan Dalembert and Cady)

vet roster with some prospects on the back end of the roster, not to old and not to young.

[BillMc]

No Perkins please :bang

Exactly.

[raybies]

Kyle's a slow man in a quick man's game. He isn't going to ever be a backup for this team at the NBA level. He'll play out his time in Austin and then quietly go overseas (unless some dumb team like Detroit decides to give him $30 mil like they did Baynes).
I guess you and ceperez misunderstood me. I was talking about Livio.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Gerald green would be a phenomenal pick up but I don't see him signing for he min. Tayshaun Prince would be a great back up 3 for defense purposes at this point.

Tayshaun can't shoot. Remember how the Grizzlies got swept in 2013?

[BatManu20]

I would pretty much despise Perkins on this team, but if he's the best available (in our price range), I wouldn't be surprised by the move tbh. He's from Texas too.

[hater]

someone to fill the Beli/Brent Barry/Michael Finley role is a MUST

[spursince#99]

Reggie Williams will make the team and presumably takeover the Belinelli role.

[BillMc]

I would pretty much despise Perkins on this team, but if he's the best available (in our price range), I wouldn't be surprised by the move tbh. He's from Texas too.

I would rather bring Mulitnov over and let him develop, than have the old, surly and offensively useless Perkins on the team.

[hater]

Reggie Williams will make the team and presumably takeover the Belinelli role.

Sorry but has Williams made 1 clutch playoff 3 pointer in his life?

[DAF86]

I caught some of the summer league game vs Philly last night. I'm sold on LCJ making the roster.

[spursince#99]

Parker/Mills
Green/Manu/Williams
Kawhi/Anderson/LJC
Aldridge/Diaw/Bonner
Duncan/West/Dalembert (hopefully)

we'll add another vet at either the 1 or the 3. Preferably the 1.

[spursince#99]

Sorry but has Williams made 1 clutch playoff 3 pointer in his life?

No but he very well will have the chance this year.

[spursince#99]

I caught some of the summer league game vs Philly last night. I'm sold on LCJ making the roster.

How well did he defend p&r and on the wing?

[spurs10]

Dalembert (Depth)
Bonner (same)
Lalanne
LJC
Prince

2 PG
2 SG
4 SF (KL, Slo-Mo, Prince, LJC
4 PF (LA, Boris, West Bonner)
3 C (Duncan Dalembert and Cady)

vet roster with some prospects on the back end of the roster, not to old and not to young. Thanks for not putting West at Center. The minutes covering for Tim at the 5 will be interesting. I'm guessing small ball with various 4's including LMA moving over. Cady, LVC, and Bertrans could serve a purpose for sure.

[DAF86]

How well did he defend p&r and on the wing?

He moves pretty well for such a long dude but what most caught my eye was his shot blocking. He blocked/contested everyfucking shot in the bit I watched.

[Vic Petro]

They cannot carry Mulitinov if they're going to carry Jean-Charles and/or Lalanne. We currently have 4 bigs that can be trusted, and if all those three made the team, we would be left with 4 bigs that can be trusted.

I agree with Chinook that Jean-Charles and Lalanne are probably making the team, because if the Spurs cut them they probably get picked up by another side. Don't think there's a big incentive for them to go play in Europe. That said, they are both in suits all year. The team would still need a center that Pop can throw at playoff bigs for 10 minutes a night. Forget Mulitinov this year.

That would leave two roster spots, which should be a combo guard (Wolters/Bertains mold) and a 3&D wing.

[ceperez]

They cannot carry Mulitinov if they're going to carry Jean-Charles and/or Lalanne. We currently have 4 bigs that can be trusted, and if all those three made the team, we would be left with 4 bigs that can be trusted.

I agree with Chinook that Jean-Charles and Lalanne are probably making the team, because if the Spurs cut them they probably get picked up by another side. Don't think there's a big incentive for them to go play in Europe. That said, they are both in suits all year. The team would still need a center that Pop can throw at playoff bigs for 10 minutes a night. Forget Mulitinov this year.

That would leave two roster spots, which should be a combo guard (Wolters/Bertains mold) and a 3&D wing.

Does Jean-Charles require a buyout from Tony Parker's team ASVEL?

Lalanne has to agree to being stashed overseas otherwise the guy is a free agent. If Spurs sign him, they could pay him next to nothing.

[Vic Petro]

Does Jean-Charles require a buyout from Tony Parker's team ASVEL?

Lalanne has to agree to being stashed overseas otherwise the guy is a free agent. If Spurs sign him, they could pay him next to nothing.

My point with Lalanne is that I think he'll either be on the team or the Spurs will lose his rights. If he refused to go overseas and the Spurs cut him, I think he gets picked up by another NBA team. Not sure there's a big incentive for him to agree to a stash. This of course is all provided he continues to show promise in the summer league and doesn't fall flat on his face.

I believe LJC does have a buyout but it's minimal. In the $600K range and the Spurs can pay up to $500K of that if I'm not mistaken.

[monkeypunk]

I would rather bring Mulitnov over and let him develop, than have the old, surly and offensively useless Perkins on the team.

[Mr. Body]

Why wouldn't the Spurs keep LJC protected by his buyout for another year? He doesn't look ready and playing time should be a priority.

[kobyz]

We need youth and athleticism, so LJC is a lock but who else?

[DPG21920]

Actually he was tendered by NO, but that QO was rescinded after the splurge occurred. Looks like a shot-blocker with a bit of an offensive game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYAOcZTrXw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKoKBO60LlA

So what's his deal - is he on a SL roster? Literally have heard nothing about him since that stint in NO

[cd98]

I could live with Withey, but I hope the Spurs at least gauge the interest that Larry Sanders has of returning. I mean, dude had great numbers off the bench with the Bucks and was second in blocks for the NBA the following year. Yes, he has some sort of mental illness, but so did Jackson, and we made it work.

[Darkwaters]

Don't the Spurs have some superstars waiting in the wings overseas? I know I've seen a number of church-raisings at Spurstalk over the years and I think we need to call some of these studs home. Here is my proposed superstar lineup with additions bolded:

Parker/Mills/Darius Washington, the Hero of the Battle with the Baron
Green/Ginobili/Vassilis Spanoulis, The Greek T-Mac
Leonard/Anderson/James "Flight" White!
Aldridge/West/Diaw/Pops Mensah Bonsu, The Mythical Beast
Duncan/Sergei Karaulov, International Draft Pick of Mystery

Additionally, I think we should cut Kyle Anderson and sign Jackie "Heavy Paper" Butler

Make it happen front office! Call all of these studs home!!

[waly.mg]

PG: Boris Diaw
SG: Kawhi
F: West
PF: Albridge
C: TD

[tp2021]

Don't the Spurs have some superstars waiting in the wings overseas? I know I've seen a number of church-raisings at Spurstalk over the years and I think we need to call some of these studs home. Here is my proposed superstar lineup with additions bolded:

Parker/Mills/Darius Washington, the Hero of the Battle with the Baron
Green/Ginobili/Vassilis Spanoulis, The Greek T-Mac
Leonard/Anderson/James "Flight" White!
Aldridge/West/Diaw/Pops Mensah Bonsu, The Mythical Beast
Duncan/Sergei Karaulov, International Draft Pick of Mystery

Additionally, I think we should cut Kyle Anderson and sign Jackie "Heavy Paper" Butler

Make it happen front office! Call all of these studs home!!

You are forgetting the one and only JAMES GIST!

[Mr. Body]

Don't the Spurs have some superstars waiting in the wings overseas? I know I've seen a number of church-raisings at Spurstalk over the years and I think we need to call some of these studs home. Here is my proposed superstar lineup with additions bolded:

Parker/Mills/Darius Washington, the Hero of the Battle with the Baron
Green/Ginobili/Vassilis Spanoulis, The Greek T-Mac
Leonard/Anderson/James "Flight" White!
Aldridge/West/Diaw/Pops Mensah Bonsu, The Mythical Beast
Duncan/Sergei Karaulov, International Draft Pick of Mystery

Additionally, I think we should cut Kyle Anderson and sign Jackie "Heavy Paper" Butler

Make it happen front office! Call all of these studs home!!

Dude. Viktor Sanikidze and Robertas Javtokas.

[Mr. Body]

If only we had kept Ian Mahinmi, imagine how mediocre he'd be.

[T Park]

Javtokas if not for the motorcycle accident, would've been in SA. Damn talented player

[Darkwaters]

Dude. Viktor Sanikidze and Robertas Javtokas.

So many options! I didn't want it to purely be a list of random forgotten overseas assignees. Although, Sanikidze is interesting. Remember, he came over for a summer league once upon a time and actually looked pretty good. Well, his game looked good. I remember he looked like a homeless begger pulled off the Vegas streets and asked to ball.

http://www.eurohoops.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/viktor-sanikidze.jpg

[Mr. Body]

So many options! I didn't want it to purely be a list of random forgotten overseas assignees. Although, Sanikidze is interesting. Remember, he came over for a summer league once upon a time and actually looked pretty good. Well, his game looked good. I remember he looked like a homeless begger pulled off the Vegas streets and asked to ball.

I remember those two (and Karaulov) as the ones immediately following Ginobili and Scola, when we thought literally anyone the FO picked would turn out diamonds.

[Darkwaters]

I remember those two (and Karaulov) as the ones immediately following Ginobili and Scola, when we thought literally anyone the FO picked would turn out diamonds.

The rumor with Karaulov was that the Spurs never even watched him play and just drafted him on a rumor and a recommendation.

[Darkwaters]

Wow...Sanikidze looks terrible. Please tell me these are photoshopped or something....

http://www.zetaestaticos.com/aragon/img/noticias/0/884/884670_1.jpg

http://www.worldsport.ge/img/articles/2c030b4974e2b005703a8147904f98d5.jpg

http://eldia.es/eldiaes/imagenes/2014/02/11/1392141774234g.jpg

[Chinook]

And he's supposed to be 29

[littlecoyotecoin]

Sorry but has Williams made 1 clutch playoff 3 pointer in his life?

Yeah, I sure hope that's not the best we can do shooter-wise, to replace Belly.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Around The Horn just had a segment about Bonner, reporting that he blamed his shooting woes last season on the iPhone 6 release, so obviously he needs to be put down.

[jbspurs]

Is there a possibility of Davis Bertans joining Spurs soon?

[itsamanuthree]

http://www.eurohoops.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/viktor-sanikidze.jpg

:lol

[spurraider21]

http://i.gyazo.com/dd5faa01fc8a6280369ee4b2cd4966d0.png

[beirmeistr]

http://i.gyazo.com/dd5faa01fc8a6280369ee4b2cd4966d0.png

please, not the spurs

[tholdren]

please, not the spurs
wheres the damn "its happening" Gif?

[spurraider21]

wheres the damn "its happening" Gif?
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/It+s+not+happening+half+life+3+unconfirmed_2708f4_ 4656469.gif

[tholdren]

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/It+s+not+happening+half+life+3+unconfirmed_2708f4_ 4656469.gif
THANK YOU

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd say Bonner is going to be on the roster (like it or not - I like it, he's a great glue guy and provides a situational stretch 4 we don't have), and with such a veteran packed team, I'm betting that the final spots will be filled with youth - one of the Cs (probably Lalanne, maybe Milutinov but seems unlikely), LJC (does look very promising defensively), and Bertans? We still need a 3-shooting wing and that is the big question mark.

[Darkwaters]

I'd say Bonner is going to be on the roster (like it or not - I like it, he's a great glue guy and provides a situational stretch 4 we don't have), and with such a veteran packed team, I'm betting that the final spots will be filled with youth - one of the Cs (probably Lalanne, maybe Milutinov but seems unlikely), LJC (does look very promising defensively), and Bertans? We still need a 3-shooting wing and that is the big question mark.

If only the OTHER Bertans were a realistic option this summer.

[random21]

Michael Scotto – ‏@MikeAScotto


Source: Dallas Mavericks have expressed interest in Kevin Seraphin. He's also received interest from the Lakers, Wizards, Suns and Spurs.
8:07 PM - 7 Jul 2015

[cd021]

If only the OTHER Bertans were a realistic option this summer.

On the plus side, Spurs could have three rookies on the bench after next season (1st rounder, Milutinov, and Davis' Bertans) and LJC if he doesn't make it this season.

[cd021]

I'd say Bonner is going to be on the roster (like it or not - I like it, he's a great glue guy and provides a situational stretch 4 we don't have), and with such a veteran packed team, I'm betting that the final spots will be filled with youth - one of the Cs (probably Lalanne, maybe Milutinov but seems unlikely), LJC (does look very promising defensively), and Bertans? We still need a 3-shooting wing and that is the big question mark.

I'm cool with Bonner being back. Having a vet at the end of the bench that can give 15 minutes in any given game is never a bad thing. Spurs would have fantastic depth at the 4 (Aldridge, Diaw, West, Bonner).

I'd really like to see LJC make it this year. Anderson has underwhelmed, apparently, having another option at the 3 is ideal. Especially if he can defend some of the better wings for short stretches while Kawhi is on the bench or in foul trouble.

[DAF86]

http://www.eurohoops.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/viktor-sanikidze.jpg

Damn, Bellinelli got old during the offseason.

[cd021]

Thanks for not putting West at Center. The minutes covering for Tim at the 5 will be interesting. I'm guessing small ball with various 4's including LMA moving over. Cady, LVC, and Bertrans could serve a purpose for sure.

Yeah people get really picky about positions nowadays. West is a 4. Even if he plays the majority of his minutes at the 5, he is still a 4.

I'm okay with a Mills-Manu-Diaw-West bench. The bench in recent years has been more of an offensive unit anyways, so longs as they don't get scorched on defense and handle their business on offense,

I'm expecting Aldridge to play some C, despite his past objections. An LA/Diaw pairing would be almost unfair, two bigs who can post and stretch it out to at least 18 feet. Spurs seldom ever play small ball (Diaw is kind of the best of both worlds). I'd imagine the Spurs look to stay big at all times. With 3 floor spacing bigs, it should be easy to do.

its interesting to see who the backup 3 would be. Anderson? LJC? Butler? (Rasual or Caron) Prince? Anderson doesn't sound like he can be an average defender at this point, and I'm not sold on his 3pt shooting either. LJC can't shoot but should be an average to slightly above average player in the NBA. Either would give the Spurs a ton of size on the wing (both are 6'9, and have at least 7'1 wingspans).

[raybies]

Well one thing that could mesh well with Kyle in the second unit is his ability to rebound.

[popdagreat]

how about ben gordon?
john lucas III? he didnt look bad when he was with the bulls.
cj watson still avail?
landry fields?
dorrell wright?

[Bruno]

Livio Jean-Charles will stay one more year in France. It has just been confirmed by his team's owner who talked with Spurs about it.

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

Livio Jean-Charles will stay one more year in France. It has just been confirmed by his team's owner who talked with Spurs about it.

Wait, what? Porker said that? Why? Was really hoping Livio'd make the roster now, especially since the need for a shot blocker was high, but oh well.

[Bruno]

For the rest of Spurs roster:

- Spurs are nicely set at PF/C. It would be somewhat logical to see Bonner being back. He already said he wants to be back for the min and he is fine to have at the end of the bench. In theory, getting a legit center would be great but with only a min salary offer and no playing time available, it would be hard for Spurs to get one.

- Getting a relatively good SG/SF is Spurs biggest need right now. They have been linked with Wayne Ellington, Rasual Butler and Tayshaun Prince. There are few others decent players that should be available for the min. I guess Spurs will only go after a player able to shoot 3's.

- A random 3rd string PG should be added. Spurs might decide to go with a combo guard though.


Cady Lalanne odds at being at the training camp seems high when you look at Spurs' history with late second round pick. In fact, he might have precisely been drafted because his agent said he was fine with him being stashed overseas.

[Kineto]

- Getting a relatively good SG/SF is Spurs biggest need right now. They have been linked with Wayne Ellington, Rasual Butler and Tayshaun Prince. There are few others decent players that should be available for the min. I guess Spurs will only go after a player able to shoot 3's.

I really want to see this summer with the french NT what Gelabale have left in the tank.
If he come back in good shape, he could be a really good pick for the backup SG/SF role.

[Mugen]

Ellington is the only one that makes sense. Both Butlers and Tayshaun have nothing left in the tank tbh.

[Mr. Body]

For the rest of Spurs roster:

- Spurs are nicely set at PF/C. It would be somewhat logical to see Bonner being back. He already said he wants to be back for the min and he is fine to have at the end of the bench. In theory, getting a legit center would be great but with only a min salary offer and no playing time available, it would be hard for Spurs to get one.

- Getting a relatively good SG/SF is Spurs biggest need right now. They have been linked with Wayne Ellington, Rasual Butler and Tayshaun Prince. There are few others decent players that should be available for the min. I guess Spurs will only go after a player able to shoot 3's.

- A random 3rd string PG should be added. Spurs might decide to go with a combo guard though.


Cady Lalanne odds at being at the training camp seems high when you look at Spurs' history with late second round pick. In fact, he might have precisely been drafted because his agent said he was fine with him being stashed overseas.

One of the actually good takes on the situation, everyone else crazed about LJC for some reason. There is no cheap shot blocking center they could 1) afford or would 2) get minutes with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw, and West on the roster. The other two roles are important, especially the shooter. Probably withered old vets at this point...

[benefactor]

- Getting a relatively good SG/SF is Spurs biggest need right now. They have been linked with Wayne Ellington, Rasual Butler and Tayshaun Prince. There are few others decent players that should be available for the min. I guess Spurs will only go after a player able to shoot 3's.


Just said this in another thread. With the team having plenty of vets, I'm sort of hoping one of the young guys pans out...like Graham or Eddie. Also, per benfti, the Spurs are keeping tabs on Aussie G/F Ryan Broekhoff. Supposedly the same source that said we were watching Baynes said we are watching him as well. He's playing with Denver's SL team in Vegas.

[Bruno]

I really want to see this summer with the french NT what Gelabale have left in the tank.
If he come back in good shape, he could be a really good pick for the backup SG/SF role.

Gelabale has regressed a lot lately. He might very well be done being considered as NBA material. He has also signed a contract for next season with a team in France.

If Spurs are looking at adding a wing from Europe, the most interesting player might be Sonny Weems. He is a free agent and seems to be interested in coming back in the NBA. I'm not sure if a min contract would be enough but he is worth a try.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Weems for the min would be a steal, but he's on his way to Barca isn't he?

[FireMicoHalili]

we just need a legit center or two so we can put Duncan in a cryogenic chamber and resurrect him once the playoffs start

[TheGoldStandard]

No news on Alan Anderson either or so I think

[jyra]

No news on Alan Anderson either or so I think

Signed with Washington on a 1 year/$4 million deal.

[TheGoldStandard]

Signed with Washington on a 1 year/$4 million deal.
Well crap he would have been a good get. Ellington or bust

[Chinook]

Livio Jean-Charles will stay one more year in France. It has just been confirmed by his team's owner who talked with Spurs about it.

It's your fault, Bruno. Had you not come back, I'm confident LJC would be a Spur.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Rasual Butler was super-hot from 3 for the first half of last season, then disappeared, but still ended up averaging 39%. Intriguing, but adding yet another old guy (he's 36) doesn't seem wise.

[RD2191]

It's your fault, Bruno. Had you not come back, I'm confident LJC would be a Spur.
:lol

[Timothy21]

Dalembert
Prince
Miller

better isn't possible

[venitian navigator]

Imho

P.M. Parker - Ginobili - x (best possible: Jameer Nelson - second option: Andre Miller - third option Jason Terry)
G. Green - Mills - x (best possible: R. Allen - second option: Wayne Ellington- third option: Dairis Bertans)
F. Leonard - Anderson x (best possible: W. Jhonson - second option: T. Prince/Datome - third option: Caron/Rasual Butler)
PF Alridge - Diaw x (best possible: Josh Smith/Scola - second option: Bargnani - third Option: Matt Bonner)
C Duncan - West x (best possible: Seraphin - second option: Aldrich/Dalembert - third Option: Lalanne/Ayres).

[scramby eggs]

Is Darius Miles still in the league? He looked really good in that Van Wilder movie, boy could jump out of the gym

[Russ]

Michael Scotto – ‏@MikeAScotto


Source: Dallas Mavericks have expressed interest in Kevin Seraphin. He's also received interest from the Lakers, Wizards, Suns and Spurs.
8:07 PM - 7 Jul 2015

The "French Connection" might give the Spurs the edge.

He's a bit undersized for the 5 but he's young and has more upside than the other available bigs. Could do a lot worse.

[lmbebo]

I'd like Seph. He's still young, teachable, and not a huge drop off if he got some playing time. I think we could get him and Bonner still.

What Luc Moute or something? Seemed like a good defensive player. But outside shooting probably a big issue.

Team does need a shooter. I'm ok with Fredette at that spot. Groom him into a Kerr like player. a 3rd guard who is somewhat of a combo PG/SG.

[FromWayDowntown]

Just my guess, but with basically 4 spots to fill (since they seem to like to keep a spot open for needs/opportunities), I think they end up with:

Bonner

+ a veteran PG who could be relied upon to step in and start for a stretch if Parker is injured (someone along the spectrum between a Terry Porter-type (a former all-star chasing a ring, but who can still play) and a Jacque Vaughn-type (an under-skilled and under-sized guy who competes and generally makes good decisions)). I tend to think they'd prefer some length here, with an eye towards using Patty more as a shooter in a lot of situations.

+a project-type big with ,

+a younger guy with some promise as a 3-and-D wing unless they figure out a way to get Caron Butler.

[Timothy21]

Seraphin with the min? mmmhhhh

[lmbebo]

Just my guess, but with basically 4 spots to fill (since they seem to like to keep a spot open for needs/opportunities), I think they end up with:

Bonner

+ a veteran PG who could be relied upon to step in and start for a stretch if Parker is injured (someone along the spectrum between a Terry Porter-type (a former all-star chasing a ring, but who can still play) and a Jacque Vaughn-type (an under-skilled and under-sized guy who competes and generally makes good decisions)). I tend to think they'd prefer some length here, with an eye towards using Patty more as a shooter in a lot of situations.

+a project-type big with ,

+a younger guy with some promise as a 3-and-D wing unless they figure out a way to get Caron Butler.

Only PG in that role would be ball bustin Jason Terry I believe or Jameer Nelson (who still believes he's a starting PG in this league).

[Mr. Body]

I'd like Seph. He's still young, teachable, and not a huge drop off if he got some playing time. I think we could get him and Bonner still.

What Luc Moute or something? Seemed like a good defensive player. But outside shooting probably a big issue.

Team does need a shooter. I'm ok with Fredette at that spot. Groom him into a Kerr like player. a 3rd guard who is somewhat of a combo PG/SG.

Why do you say seraphin is teachable? He hasn't been taught yet.

[bluebellmaniac]

It's your fault, Bruno. Had you not come back, I'm confident LJC would be a Spur.

Lol!

[lmbebo]

Why do you say seraphin is teachable? He hasn't been taught yet.

he's still young. You can teach anyone. Whether he is willing to learn is another issue all together.

[ducks]

he's still young. You can teach anyone. Whether he is willing to learn is another issue all together.

that might make him more teachable
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/230860620284-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

[lmbebo]

that might make him more teachable
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/230860620284-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

:lol

[Kineto]

Why do you say seraphin is teachable? He hasn't been taught yet.

When he played for french national team and then for a good ACB team during the lockout summer, he made huge progress.

Then he played two year for the Wizard, refused to come in national team (to work on his game during summer he said), and then stop making any progress in his game.
But this is probably not the fault of a great organization like the Wizard, who learned how to play BB to some greats young centers like Javale Mcgee and Andray blatche !

[Spursfanfromafar]

Is Cole Aldrich already with any team? He is one Baynes replacement, I think, the Spurs can consider as a 5th big. Donald Sloan is another guy to consider for backup PG and the 15th man could be either Reggie Williams or Jason Richardson. (But of course Matt Bonner and perhaps Dairis Bertans could round up the other spots).

[ceperez]

Livio Jean-Charles will stay one more year in France. It has just been confirmed by his team's owner who talked with Spurs about it.

:(

[ceperez]

Just said this in another thread. With the team having plenty of vets, I'm sort of hoping one of the young guys pans out...like Graham or Eddie. Also, per benfti, the Spurs are keeping tabs on Aussie G/F Ryan Broekhoff. Supposedly the same source that said we were watching Baynes said we are watching him as well. He's playing with Denver's SL team in Vegas.

Spurs need more youth on the team. I don't want to see Spurs end up like the Lakers when Karl Malone joined. They were destroyed when everyone realized that they had zero mobility.

[ceperez]

Signed with Washington on a 1 year/$4 million deal.
I like Alan Adernson's game, but as expected, he's too expensive.

[ChumpDumper]

Spurs need more youth on the team. I don't want to see Spurs end up like the Lakers when Karl Malone joined. They were destroyed when everyone realized that they had zero mobility.Are you saying this Spurs team has zero mobility?

[BatManu20]

LJC is not ready for the NBA. Let him stay overseas for another year to try and further develop some sort of offensive game. He would absolutely kill the spacing in the Spurs offense at this point, despite how good he might be defensively. Use that roster spot on a veteran.

[ceperez]

Are you saying this Spurs team has zero mobility?

Lots of Spurs players could possibly lose a step or two this season: Duncan(39), West(34), Diaw (33), Ginobili(37), Parker(33).

Parker and Diaw are just a year younger than West. West looked like he was wearing cement shoes last season.

[ceperez]

LJC is not ready for the NBA. Let him stay overseas for another year to try and further develop some sort of offensive game. He would absolutely kill the spacing in the Spurs offense at this point, despite how good he might be defensively. Use that roster spot on a veteran.

No! We need him next season to start developing on a world class development system. It has been two years already since his injury and very little improvement to show for it!

Why add another veteran in their Mid 30's who can't keep up with the pace? Who is left anyway, Rasual and Carron Butler, Tayshun Price, Jason Richardson.... they all can barely run anymore!!

[ChumpDumper]

Lots of Spurs players could possibly lose a step or two this season: Duncan(39), West(34), Diaw (33), Ginobili(37), Parker(33).

Parker and Diaw are just a year younger than West. West looked like he was wearing cement shoes last season.That was not the question.

Are you saying this Spurs team has zero mobility?

[buttsR4rebounding]

Spurs need more youth on the team. I don't want to see Spurs end up like the Lakers when Karl Malone joined. They were destroyed when everyone realized that they had zero mobility.

The Lakers lost to the Pistons in the Finals that year. Primarily because Malone got hurt. I wouldn't call that "getting destroyed".

[BatManu20]

I agree that the Spurs could use some youth/athleticism. I'm all for veteran leadership, but we're already the oldest team in the league at this point.. Besides Kawhi and Danny, this team is fucking old, tbh. Would love a wing and/or backup Center in their 20's at this point.

[ceperez]

I agree that the Spurs could use some youth/athleticism. I'm all for veteran leadership, but we're already the oldest team in the league at this point.. Besides Kawhi and Danny, this team is fucking old, tbh. Would love a wing and/or backup Center in their 20's at this point.

I say sign Bonner, and that's your last 'veteran leadership' you need for this team. You got to have the youth in the team to learn from these veterans BEFORE they retire!

Who is Duncan going to teach if the team has NO CENTERS?

Besides, veterans coming from other teams are entirely clueless and have never played in a Spurs like system. What vetearn value does Rasual Butler gives when he's played mostly in non-playoff teams????

[Darkwaters]

Some of the names I've heard repeatedly here:

C: Jeff Withey, Cole Aldrich, Emeka Okafor, Kevin Seraphin ("C"), Samuel Dalembert

PG: Nate Wolters, Donald Sloan, Jameer Nelson,

SG/SF: Caron Butler, Rasual Butler, Dorrell Wright, Ben Gordon, Wayne Ellington, Tayshaun Prince

Other SL options might include:

Dairis Bertans, Cady Lalanne, Jerrell Eddie, various other "Pet Cats"

[Rev Hill]

Was there any interest from the Spurs on Wesley Johnson? Didn't know he was a FA until I saw he signed with the Clips. He would have been a nice add. A wing, shooter, youth, can hit the 3...etc Clips got him for a vet min it seems. Plus he's from Texas. Maybe he liked the lights of LA and wanted to stay, just win more?

[Darkwaters]

Was there any interest from the Spurs on Wesley Johnson? Didn't know he was a FA until I saw he signed with the Clips. He would have been a nice add. A wing, shooter, youth, can hit the 3...etc Clips got him for a vet min it seems. Plus he's from Texas. Maybe he liked the lights of LA and wanted to stay, just win more?

He hasn't exactly set the world on fire. The Spurs really need a player that they can lean on this season at the 2/3. My guess would be that they just felt they needed someone a little more "put together."

[Darkwaters]

Sonny Weems, Suns Agree Upon Two-Year, $5.8M Deal

Jul 8, 2015 3:54 PM

Sonny Weems and the Phoenix Suns have agreed upon a two-year, $5.8 million deal.

Weems last played in the NBA in 2011 with the Toronto Raptors.

Weems has since played in Europe with Zalgiris and CSKA.

Weems turned 29 on July 8th.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238675/Sonny-Weems-Suns-Agree-Upon-Two-Year-$58M-Deal

[BillMc]

Spurs need more youth on the team. I don't want to see Spurs end up like the Lakers when Karl Malone joined. They were destroyed when everyone realized that they had zero mobility.

I completely agree we need more youth, but just to be fair that Lakers team made it to the Finals and might have won it if Malone hadn't gotten hurt and Kobe didn't shoot them out of the series. Who destroyed them besides Detroit?

[TheGreatYacht]

618878924655726592

Fuck. He was going to be in the Vegas team

[NASpurs]

618878924655726592

Fuck. He was going to be in the Vegas team

Or someone liked him too much and didn't want to give him too much exposure for other teams so they sat him down with a fake injury.

:lol unless he was injured yesterday. I didn't watch the game.

[Chinook]

Wolters has been beasting. I'd sign him up now regardless.

[NASpurs]

Mr.Bottomtooth was high on him as well as me. I really wanted to see him play.

[stnick2261]

PGs - Parker / Mills / Ginobili
Wings - Leonard / Green / Ginobili / Anderson / Dairis Bertans / Jerell Eddie
Bigmen - Aldridge / Duncan / West / Diaw / Cady Lalanne / Jeff Withey

That's 14 roster spots (Manu listed twice) with the hope of finding a PG later so Manu doesn't have to.

[Darkwaters]

Yea, I've been recording the games hes played specifically to watch him. Definitely worthy of a training camp invite at the least.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

How about Glen Robinson III? Can survive in spot minutes just on his athleticism. Shot can be fixed too.

[nickdaquick]

How about John Jenkins? Good shooter, played in Atlanta last year so he played a similar system. Not a bad project for the minimum.

[Brian Windhorst]

Joel Freeland?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

We need a 4th wing pretty bad -- Anderson isn't an NBA player. Can't shoot, score and makes the turtle "Sheldon" my mom bought for her science class she taught my 11th grade year seem like Usain Bolt.

[ceperez]

The pool of free agents are drying up fast.... Spurs are going to have real problems filling up the 4-5 slots open!!!


Where are those cheap backup centers?

Where is that backup SF?

Where is the extra 3 point shooter!!

It's a looming disaster for free agency!!!

[TheGoldStandard]

The pool of free agents are drying up fast.... Spurs are going to have real problems filling up the 4-5 slots open!!!

It's a looming disaster for free agency!!!

They'll do just fine.. I suspect they'll have another signing by Friday and wrap up the free agency pool shortly after summer league

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i was really rooting for a min deal to Jeremy Lin.

[Kindergarten Cop]

i was really rooting for a min deal to Jeremy Lin.

He just agreed to terms with the Charlotte Hornets.

[Darkwaters]

i was really rooting for a min deal to Jeremy Lin.

Yea, I just saw that he signed with the Hornets. Good for him - got out of the trainwreck in Staples...

[Kindergarten Cop]

i was really rooting for a min deal to Jeremy Lin.

He just agreed to terms with the Charlotte Hornets.

EDIT: For some reason I thought I read your post as "am hoping" the first time, but now realize that it is past tense. My bad. :bobo

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Yea, I just saw that he signed with the Hornets. Good for him - got out of the trainwreck in Staples...

i was thinking he'd be a perfect Manu clone. has that knack for turnovers that come with the bold passing and scoring attempts.

[G-Dawgg]

#stackgate

[Darkwaters]

i was thinking he'd be a perfect Manu clone. has that knack for turnovers that come with the bold passing and scoring attempts.

Yea, I know a lot of people beat you up for that recommendation. I honestly hadn't considered Lin at all until you mentioned him. I think he would have been a very decent option had Manu walked.

I wish him success in Charlotte. He never wanted to be a Laker (got traded there) and got the hell out as soon as he could. Good for him!

[DesignatedT]

I like that Justin Holiday pickup for Atlanta.

[ChumpDumper]

The pool of free agents are drying up fast.... Spurs are going to have real problems filling up the 4-5 slots open!!!


Where are those cheap backup centers?

Where is that backup SF?

Where is the extra 3 point shooter!!

It's a looming disaster for free agency!!!You are declaring this offseason a disaster.

You need to take a step back.

[Russ]

How about the Harrison twin that didn't get drafted?

[DesignatedT]

Andre Miller, Jameer Nelson, Donald Sloan

Ben Gordon, Wayne Ellington, Marcus Thornton, Alexey Shved

Dorrell Wright, Caron Butler, Tayshaun Prince, Gigi Datome

Cole Aldrich, Jeff Withey, Sam Dalembert, Emeka Okafor

[look_at_g_shred]

Thornton can light it up. I'd go with Shved though. Gives us another ball handler off the bench.

[Ice009]

How about Glen Robinson III? Can survive in spot minutes just on his athleticism. Shot can be fixed too.

Wow, why would Glen Robinson's son need his shot fixed? I would have figured shooting wouldn't be an issue for him since his Dad was a great shooter.

[Marcus Bryant]

The pool of free agents are drying up fast.... Spurs are going to have real problems filling up the 4-5 slots open!!!


Where are those cheap backup centers?

Where is that backup SF?

Where is the extra 3 point shooter!!

It's a looming disaster for free agency!!!

I hate Spurs fans. I truly do. Even after this fucking start to free agency, after pretty much guaranteeing that this franchise will be playing playoff basketball and perhaps better for the rest of the decade (which would cap off 29 out of 30 straight years of NBA playoffs in SA) some MFer is worried about filling out the injured reserve list.

Got damn.

[Ice009]

The pool of free agents are drying up fast.... Spurs are going to have real problems filling up the 4-5 slots open!!!


Where are those cheap backup centers?

Where is that backup SF?

Where is the extra 3 point shooter!!

It's a looming disaster for free agency!!!

Are you serious or joking? If you're serious then I don't know what to say.

[DesignatedT]

Scola to Toronto.

[Mugen]

Ellington and one of the honkies. Go Spurs Go.

[SpursFan86]

Dorell Wright would be great...good 3-point shooter, and capable defender. I'm hoping that KA will be able to play full-time backup SF, but I'm still not sure if he'll be ready for that. Don't see Wright taking the minimum, though, unfortunately...

Wright, Ellington, Withey, Aldrich, Seraphin, Jameer - would be pretty happy if we got any of these guys.

[BatManu20]

I like Shved. Too expensive though, me thinks.

[spursistan]

Need another expert 3pt shooter..Remember how many regular games Belinelli won us in 13/14..We are going to have ridiculous spacing that need those kind of distance gunners.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Goddamn it. I really wanted to see Wolters.

[FireMicoHalili]

Spurs get whom they wanted; Dallas and Los Angeles (Lakers)) lose out. Feels odd.