Rita and Corpus Christi

[Horry For 3!]

Those weather people are pretty crazy.

[boutons]

plywood ain't cheap (if there is any left).

assuming the storm stays on the mean path of the currently predicted paths, we'll have most wind from the east, veering north, right? so boarding up windows on those two sides of the house should be enough, right?

[MannyIsGod]

It is a CAT 5 now. Anderson Cooper should not be riding this thing out. Nobody should. You'd think after Katrina people would understand that.

[MannyIsGod]

Boutons, yes. I really don't think people in San Antonio have a large need to board up, though. You'd be better off going outside and making sure your trees are trimmed and there isn't anything loose around your house.

[Vashner]

Cooper sucks let him ride it out...

Ok who wants to ride it out with me at the house that's next to the Port A coast guard station? (well it's 1 block away)...

hahahah (no it's just a joke about riding it out there)

[Mijo]

http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3879463


Effective immideately Aransas County Judge Glenn Gilloury is calling for an evacuation of Aransas County for all elderly people, a mandatory evacuation will take effect for Aransas County at 3 PM Wednesday 09/21/05. We are calling for a mandatory evacuation with citizens leaving the county no later than Thursday afternoon. Staging point for those citizens needing to leave the county who do not have transportation is the Live Oak Elem. School on Griffith Dr. off of FM 1069. Recommended evacutation route is Texas HWY 35 North to Tivoli, turn left on 239, go west to Goliad, turn right going north on 183 to the Austin area, and points further north.

Based on the conference call we had with the National Weather Service at 9:30 AM today, Hurricane Rita is currently a Cat. 4 Hurricane with 140 mph winds and it is tracking to go inland at Port OConner, TX (Calhoun County), with hurricane force winds reaching out 100 miles on the north east quad and 60 miles to the South east quad. We are at high risk of being effected by this hurricane. If it does not make the last minute right hook that it is predicted to do, it could effect Aransas County even more. We are to excpect a tidal surge and tropical storm wind by Friday night.

Mark Gilliam
Aransas County Sheriff

Aransas Co.. EOC release

My family has a summer condo in Port Aransas 2 blocks from the beach. My family is debating leaving in a few hours to try to board up and sandbag around the south windows/door. I guess I'd have as hard a time getting down there as I would getting back.

[MannyIsGod]

Mijo, I think theyd' be wasting their time. Look at Gulfport from the air. That is what you can expect on the coast. The House is as good as gone, boarding up is not going to help.

[ObiwanGinobili]

My friend Randi just called me from Clute (brazoria county).. she and hubby are out at thier property untieing thier trailer house.
thye don;t have ins on it or anything.. they are just hoping the POS will get blown into the woods and they can pretend it never exsisted. :lol

I told her to quite fucking around and get over here allready.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

SA is 150 miles from the water, 11 or 12 hours for the hurricane to lose energy overland, and at this point, SA is 75 - 100 miles away from the mean storm path.

I don't think SA, or any point 150 mi from the coast, will get anything by TS winds, 40 - 50 mph max. Comments?

Dude, north Mississippi, six hours from landfall, got rocked from Katrina. If memory serves they had extensive wind damage 300 miles inland.

[Vashner]

LOL they are taking out the metal straps from there mobile home?

Hum if the adjuster finds out they could loose money from claim..

No insurance? That's fooked.

[ObiwanGinobili]

LOL they are taking out the metal straps from there mobile home?
Hum if the adjuster finds out they could loose money from claim..


thats exactly what they are doing.

but they don;t have insurance on it. it;s paid off .. and they moved out 6 months ago.
they just hate that thing with a passion.

[SpursWoman]

LOL they are taking out the metal straps from there mobile home?

Hum if the adjuster finds out they could loose money from claim..


She just said no insurance. No insurance, no adjuster.


On that note....it just dawned on me that the storage unit I just got is right next to Salado Creek, and if we get even a little flooding here, it's toast. I think I'm going to stop by today and up my insurance a little ... and get my mom's china out. :fro

[MiNuS]

She just said no insurance. No insurance, no adjuster.


On that note....it just dawned on me that the storage unit I just got is right next to Salado Creek, and if we get even a little flooding here, it's toast. I think I'm going to stop by today and up my insurance a little ... and get my mom's china out. :fro
I am not sure you can make any changes on your insurance or add insurance to a property once a hurricane is in the Gulf of Mexico.

[Vashner]

Nope.. they won't underwrite it with a forcasted storm.

If there is no storm you can normally get next day coverage.

[Mijo]

Mijo, I think theyd' be wasting their time. Look at Gulfport from the air. That is what you can expect on the coast. The House is as good as gone, boarding up is not going to help. These condos are constructed of CMU and resemble more of an apartment complex. They've withstood other hurricanes in the past although it has been subject to flooding. Provided this monster follows any of the models that predict landfall east of Corpus Christi, I'm hoping it will be spared.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Oil refineries in Texas City have shut down and are clearing out.

[MannyIsGod]

I think that she's talking about a storage unit dude.

[Vashner]

Your in Port A condo?....

Get the fuck out.... now..

[SpursWoman]

I think that she's talking about a storage unit dude.


Yes....it's like $5/mo per $1,000. :lol :lol

[MiNuS]

Oil refineries in Texas City have shut down and are clearing out.
does anyone want to guess next weeks gasoline price???

[Horry For 3!]

My grandparents have a Condo in Galveston.

[ObiwanGinobili]

well the rigs are being evac'd as we speak... and baytown will most likely close up shop tonight or early tomarrow at the lastest........

so I'm gonna go with 2.89 by Thusday/ Friday.... and 3.07 monday

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Houston's Storm surge assessment...


http://hurricanes.tamu.edu/maps/maps/County/gsa_harris.jpg

[travis2]

Manny...NAM 18Z has begun...figure it will be done (enough to look at) in an hour or so...

GFS 18Z fires off in a couple of hours...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

CNN is allready pimpin how Anderson Cooper is going to be riding it out in Texas on the ground.....

Everyone ever seen/heard Ron White (comedian)?

"So I'm watching the news talking about a hurricane going to hit the Florida Keys. They interview this guy who says he's staying, and explains that 55 years of age, he is in good enough shape to withstand the force of a cat 3 hurricane.

Let me explain something to you. It ain't *that* the wind's blowing. It's *what* the wind's blowing. If you get hit with a Volvo, it doesn't really matter how many situps you did that morning."

Sorry, thought I'd share, and seeing Anderson down there on the coast when this hits just reminds me of that joke.

[Horry For 3!]

Everyone ever seen/heard Ron White (comedian)?

"So I'm watching the news talking about a hurricane going to hit the Florida Keys. They interview this guy who says he's staying, and explains that 55 years of age, he is in good enough shape to withstand the force of a cat 3 hurricane.

Let me explain something to you. It ain't *that* the wind's blowing. It's *what* the wind's blowing. If you get hit with a Volvo, it doesn't really matter how many situps you did that morning."

Sorry, thought I'd share, and seeing Anderson down there on the coast when this hits just reminds me of that joke.
:lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

the lady on CNN is suggesting that the weather is "soo hot" in Houston that cars will be breaking down from sitting in traffic.
:rolleyes
uh huh....

it just sounds to me like she is inciting fear.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Everyone ever seen/heard Ron White (comedian)?

"So I'm watching the news talking about a hurricane going to hit the Florida Keys. They interview this guy who says he's staying, and explains that 55 years of age, he is in good enough shape to withstand the force of a cat 3 hurricane.

Let me explain something to you. It ain't *that* the wind's blowing. It's *what* the wind's blowing. If you get hit with a Volvo, it doesn't really matter how many situps you did that morning."

Sorry, thought I'd share, and seeing Anderson down there on the coast when this hits just reminds me of that joke.


:lol :lol
i;ve seen that .. I thought it was hilarious!

[MannyIsGod]

The 1:53 eye report from the hurricane hunters found a 920 mb pressure and flight level winds of 153 knots (176 mph). These numbers plus the satellite intensity estimates would ordinarily support upgrading Rita to a Category 5 hurricane, but NHC is being conservative, and calling Rita a strong Category 4 hurricane with 150 mph surface winds.

There are two hurricane hunter aircraft in Rita this afternoon. The NOAA hurricane hunters found a central pressure of 934 mb at 11:17 am, and the Air Force hurricane hunters found a central pressure of 923 mb at 1:02pm. This incredible drop of 11 mb in 105 minutes is the fastest pressure fall I can ever recall seeing in a hurricane, and exceeds the 10 mb drop in 100 minutes we saw in Hurricane Charley last year. With an eye diameter of 25 miles, an eyewall replacement cycle is not likely today, and Rita may intensify to a level close to Katrina's strongest point--902 mb.

Thats Jeff Masters. This is it folks, we actually have Katrina Part 2. You couple this with the storms we hard earlier this year in Dennis and Emily and I'm just floored. This is absolutely the worst season of all time.

[Horry For 3!]

the lady on CNN is suggesting that the weather is "soo hot" in Houston that cars will be breaking down from sitting in traffic.
:rolleyes
uh huh....

it just sounds to me like she is inciting fear.
:lmao I heard that too and was like wtf and laughed

[CosmicCowboy]

There is a mandatory evacuation of Port Aransas. Ferries stop running at noon tomorrow.

For all the "brave" people that want to take their chances and stay in Corpus, check out these before/after pictures from Katrina...

http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/hurricanes/katrina/photo-comparisons/mainmississippi.html

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:lol

Gov Perry:

"There will be a few hard headed folks who decide to try and ride it out, but everyone with any common sense will get out now."

He calls it a little different than the idiots in La.

[CharlieMac]

the lady on CNN is suggesting that the weather is "soo hot" in Houston that cars will be breaking down from sitting in traffic.
:rolleyes
uh huh....

it just sounds to me like she is inciting fear.

That's the way they roll.

I'm postive that around this time yesterday, CNN/FOX/MSNBC officials all had massive hard-ons at thought of Rita hitting a repopulated New Orleans.

Death and destructions sells.

[boutons]

The CNN ladies have really gone to shit this year, with the obvious, dictated increase in "attitude", emoting, editorializing, feigned interest, "I just have to know/can you tell us/how could it be", leading questions to the reporter-in-field/interviewee, etc, etc.

Just be a pretty airhead, read the tele-prompter straight-up, and STFU. :lol

[CharlieMac]

Oh man, MoveOn.org is wasting no time getting the anti-Bush ads aired on CNN. Great timing for them .

[CharlieMac]

:lol

Gov Perry:

"There will be a few hard headed folks who decide to try and ride it out, but everyone with any common sense will get out now."

He calls it a little different than the idiots in La.

It seems Galveston is doing a great job of getting people out. Good for them .

[CosmicCowboy]

I can't stand watching the TV coverage...they get the facts so screwed up...I would much rather get the raw feed off wunderground and NOAA and from Travis and Manny...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurstalk.... Where Spurs fans turn for their weather news [/cheezy 70s music background]

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, the TV shit is annoying and way late.

[MannyIsGod]

Spurstalk.... Where Spurs fans turn for their weather news [/cheezy 70s music background]
Weather on the 9s! :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

On the 9s? pffffffffft. We do weather on the minute, every minute.

We just need our own "on location" crew to report as the storm comes ashore, and we're set.

I've got a buddy who works at Fox Sports, he can get us a telestrator so we can draw arrows on weather maps and shit. Let's make it happen :tu


:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

what a fucking monster...

[Shelly]

Y'all--stock up on your water. I was just at HEB and it's going F.A.S.T

[xrayzebra]

I'm officially out of CC tomarrow at noon. Reported 70mph sustained winds minimum and 100 to 125 gusts. Got my plywood and I'm boarding up tonight.

Everybody say a prayer that my place doesn't get looted I have some nice stuff and very shady neighbors.

Headed to Rio Grande city and gonna get shit faced with the latino side of the family although I don't speak spanish drinking is a universal language.

Hey, best of luck my friend. I know you will at least have a good time in Rio Grande City. I have spent some time there and the people are great. Hope everything works out on your house in CC. But I really feel this thing is going in there. It is just staying way too far south while moving west. I know it may not mean anything, but it is a gut feeling...good luck again!

[Shelly]

Someone posted this on a forum my husband frequents: Good advice for you coastal peeps:

My friend, and EMS-type and a First Responder, won an award from the
Homeland Security Department for her  epreparedness" research and for
community contributions; she has a list of ideas that she has sent to
me several times since her mother‼sup>TMs home was destroyed by a
relatively small hurricane in Florida 2 years ago. She says the worst
part (if you survive) is the (HTHHM) heat, thirst, hunger, humidity,
and mosquitoes. The second worst part is the lack of proper ID.

Do not attempt to ride out a category 4 or near-category 4 if you are
near the coast (100-150 miles, it depends).
Buy lots of gasoline if you have a gas-powered generator and plan to say.


fill containers (jugs, tubs, buckets, etc.) with tap water. Segregate
into clean, vs.  edo not drink"
make sure to have several bottles of bleach
making sure prescriptions are filled, store in double Ziploc bags or
similar (SDZBOS)
put ALL important papers (and possibly important papers) and computer
files in a single box to toss in car (passports, housing papers,
insurance papers, loans, etc.) SDZBOS
place relevant maps in car
put all other papers (photo albums, etc.) in box to toss in car if
space is available. SDZBOS
arrange a point of contact, someone outside of the danger zone who
will coordinate messages from family members
make hotel reservations 2 days in advance of anticipated need (for
Dallas, San Antonio, Tusla, etc.), be sure to cancel them if you
don‼sup>TMt use them
update flashlight bulbs and batteries, and make sure battery-powered
radio is working, SDZBOS
if you have a propane lamp and stove, refill as needed and keep available
make sure candles are available, inexpensive hobby types, a dozen or
more minimum (SDZBOS)
have matches and cigarette lighters available, store in 2 or 3 areas
(with meds, in car, etc.) (SDZBOS)
store gun and ammo nearby, ready to use or toss in car (SDZBOS)
move some items (whatever makes sense) off garage and house floor onto
cabinets and tables, etc.
get extra canned food, get extra dry food that does not need cooking
(e.g., cereal)
take pre-storm photos of belongings (inside and outside), if
electronic try to duplicate images via CD or uploading, keep camera
charged for use after storm
fill car with gas and keep it full
clean backyard of projectile-type things (trash can lids, etc.), maybe
of no use as your neighbors won‼sup>TMt do this
buy/fill gallon containers of water for car trip (or fill larger
camping type containers)
prepare minimum travel kit (underwear, toothbrush, medicines, change
of clothes, extra shoes, insect repellent, etc.), keep small but take
everything that might be needed in a week‼sup>TMs time
collect kitchen implements, including Non-electric can opener, a pan
or two, spoons, etc; place together with foods in box to throw in car.
Get cash, in your pocket, at least $200 per person, but do not use
except for life threatening emergencies.
toss ice packs in freezer and keep filling an ice box with them till
storm is passed, can be used for water when thawed
purchase 4- or 6-mil plastic in rolls (3 x 50 or larger) and multiple
rolls of duct tape; do not use during storm but afterwards to patch
windows, or roof or to sleep under, or to cover valuables.

If storm is headed at you, get out of town. Batter operated radio is
essential sometimes in the hours before a storm, and for weeks
afterwards•monitor traffic and all news.

If you stay, be sure to monitor traffic situation on highways, and
other news bulletins.
If you stay, hope your power stays on and watch lots of loud movies.

[1369]

I can hear/see Navy helicopters leaving Nav Sta Ingleside.

As soon as we get our shit wired tight here at the plant, I'm out of Rockport tonight.

Hope I have an apartment to come back to...

[travis2]

OK, the first three frames are available from NAM...

It is still showing a definite jog to the south over the next 12 hours...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Y'all--stock up on your water. I was just at HEB and it's going F.A.S.T

I remember back in SA when we had the big snowstorm in the 80s, and everyone stocked up like we were all going to be in our houses under 20 feet of snow for 2 months :lol

I'd say that's a LIIIIIIIITTTLE bit of overreaction there.

[Shelly]

I remember back in SA when we had the big snowstorm in the 80s, and everyone stocked up like we were all going to be in our houses under 20 feet of snow for 2 months :lol

I'd say that's a LIIIIIIIITTTLE bit of overreaction there.

Whatever. You can always drink it and it's only 59 cents a gallon.

I am the least prepared person on earth. I never have working flashlights or batteries. This is a good as time as any to become prepared.

I also have a lot of trees in my backyard that are close to my house. So if the winds are strong enough, you never know.

Although, I'm hoping my roof gets ripped off. I need a new one..:lol

[SpursWoman]

I remember back in SA when we had the big snowstorm in the 80s, and everyone stocked up like we were all going to be in our houses under 20 feet of snow for 2 months :lol

I'd say that's a LIIIIIIIITTTLE bit of overreaction there.


We happened to have a whole house full of family when that came. They all got stuck there together....and we all didn't talk to each other for about 3 years after that.

:makemyday


I'm feeling for ObiwanGinobili & CosmicCowboy right now. :lol

[SpursWoman]

Although, I'm hoping my roof gets ripped off. I need a new one..:lol

I was thinking the same thing....the weekend before last when it rained really hard my patio sprung a new leak. I was inspecting the old oak trees out back last night to see if one might reach it.





















....so I can get User ready with his 4WD & some tow chains when the wind hits. :nerd :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

^^^^^^ :lol

I can relate to the "family matters."

That's hilarious.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/images/at200518_sat.jpg

Some modest growth and this will be as big as Katrina.

[Horry For 3!]

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/images/at200518_sat.jpg

Some modest growth and this will be as big as Katrina.
I thought it was already?

[MannyIsGod]

Hey Travis, the NAM has made a drastic turn to the north since the last run.

Early run:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/images/nam_slp_024l.gif


And the current run:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/18/images/nam_slp_030l.gif

[MannyIsGod]

She's neither as strong nor as big as Katrina quite yet.

[Horry For 3!]

She's neither as strong nor as big as Katrina quite yet.
I guess they were over hyping it on CNN right now.

[Shelly]

I was thinking the same thing....the weekend before last when it rained really hard my patio sprung a new leak. I was inspecting the old oak trees out back last night to see if one might reach it.

..so I can get User ready with his 4WD & some tow chains when the wind hits. :nerd :lol


I have this one tree branch that just slighly hangs over my fence into my neighbor's yard. I think I'll have my husband cut that down. Don't need that to go crashing through their window and have MY insurance pay for it! :lol

[Horry For 3!]

I have this one tree branch that just slighly hangs over my fence into my neighbor's hard. I think I'll have my husband cut that down. Don't need that to go crashing through their window and have MY insurance pay for it! :lol
Neighbor's hard :wow I know what your thinking about :lol

[rl64tx]

winds up to 165mph

[boutons]

When the San Antonio looting starts, I'm heading for Circuit City. :)

[Mijo]

Isn't it scary that we fear these storms like they have a mind of their own? It's almost as if the hurricane sees the Texas coastline and turns looking for a populated area to destroy whatever is in its path.

[rl64tx]

When the San Antonio looting starts, I'm heading for Circuit City. :)

That's fucked up!!! I'm gonna take Dons and Bens!!!

[Marklar MM]

That's fucked up!!! I'm gonna take Dons and Bens!!!

I would rather hit up Best Buy. I would take all the games, consoles, blank media, and graphics cards I could. I would also take as many I-Pods and stereo systems as possible. Screw tvs.

[ObiwanGinobili]

We happened to have a whole house full of family when that came. They all got stuck there together....and we all didn't talk to each other for about 3 years after that.
:makemyday


I'm feeling for ObiwanGinobili & CosmicCowboy right now. :lol



:lol
god that would almost be a blessing! my MIL is getting all over my last nerve lately.. and now we'e gonna have her here?? in the same space as my MOM???

:shootme now . please. :lmao

[Shelly]

Neighbor's hard :wow I know what your thinking about :lol


You're seeing things :spin

[SpursWoman]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA092105.ritanationalEN.7d39bb65.html


NEW: Rita to bring only a little rain and some gusty winds to S.A.


Web Posted: 09/21/2005 02:09 PM CDT

Anton Caputo
Express-News


Hurricane Rita shouldn't bring more than a bit of rain and some gusty winds to the Alamo City Saturday if it keeps on its present path, according to a National Weather Service meteorologist.

The storm is expected to make landfall in Texas near Port Lavaca early Saturday morning as a Category 4. The projected path should mean 4 inches to 8 inches of rain for Williamson County and 3 inches to 6 inches for Travis County, but probably no more than 1 inch for Bexar County, said meteorologist Cristy Mitchell of the National Weather Service New Braunfels office.

Rita is expected to take a sharp turn north shortly after making landfall in Texas. If the storm works its way another 50 miles or so west before making that turn, Bexar County could see 3 inches to 5 inches of rain, Mitchell added.

“Typically the east side of the hurricane has the highest rainfall amount, and since we're still going to be to the west of the center that puts us into the lower category,” she said. “Just looking at the spin of the hurricane, our winds will be from the northeast and the northwest, where everyone east of the center will be getting south and southeast winds that are pulling water from the gulf.”

Bexar County residents should see sustained winds up to 40 mph, with gusts of 50 mph Saturday, Mitchell said. By sunset, the winds should die down to 20 mph or less.

acaputo@expres-news.

[MannyIsGod]

I have this one tree branch that just slighly hangs over my fence into my neighbor's yard. I think I'll have my husband cut that down. Don't need that to go crashing through their window and have MY insurance pay for it! :lol
If its over the property line it is actually their responsibility. But the nice neighborly thing to do would be to have your husband cut it down.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rita is now officially a Cat5. Someone pass the vaseline.

[Marklar MM]

Rita is now officially a Cat5. Someone pass the vaseline.

Here is a stick to go with the vaseline.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, the NAM has thrown me through a damn loop. It sends the storm more northly (as it is doing right now) but then shoots the damn thing harder to the west. The NWS needs faster computers so that these model runs go faster.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The NWS needs faster computers so that these model runs go faster.

They need someone to write some distributed computing stuff like the SETI@home software.

[Shelly]

[QUOTE]The storm is expected to make landfall in Texas near Port Lavaca early Saturday morning as a Category 4. The projected path should mean 4 inches to 8 inches of rain for Williamson County and 3 inches to 6 inches for Travis County, but probably no more than 1 inch for Bexar County, said meteorologist Cristy Mitchell of the National Weather Service New Braunfels office.[U]

Well, damn. I'm returning my candles and water :cuss

[MannyIsGod]

We're on the dry side with that track. If this NAM track verifies though...

We'll get much worse than that.

[T Park]

i feel sick.

This could bankrupt our country.


Friends of mine honestly think this is the apocolypse.



Im scared beyond words......


The effects of this are just, who knows what this will do.

Devastate a section

not just towns but a SECTION

From NO all the way south west to CC????

Our country cant survive this Im afraid.

[MannyIsGod]

Our country can and WILL survive this, but it is going to be bad any way you slice it up.

[Vashner]

Just came back from the Bulverde HEB.. it's like Y2K all over again.. a mad house..

The cashier told me people spending up to 800 bucks on stuff hahah..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Shelly, don't return those just yet. When has the NWS ever gotten a weather forecast right in the SA area?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Those fvckers in OPEC better start cranking out the barrels and cranking down our costs.

[Shelly]

Shelly, don't return those just yet. When has the NWS ever gotten a weather forecast right in the SA area?

True--I was just kidding anyway. I should have candles and batteries to begin with.

[Vashner]

OPEC does not make refined crude... besides you can't ship it into the gulf right now anyway... OPEC is not the problem. .the estimated 100,000 chinese and india folks that buy a BRAND NEW car everyday is the problem..

[JoeChalupa]

Damn, the wife and I just got back into Galveston on Monday morning from our cruise and that night we saw the first warnings for Galveston.

Phew!

[boutons]

"This could bankrupt our country."

nah, the Repubs just "offset" Katrina costs by
cancelling $4B for Corp for Pub Broadcasting, which pretty much kills it,
cancelling the moon/mars project $44B,
etc, etc.

Howeever, $1.5T in tax cuts for the rich + corps (7 or 8 Katrinas) will be untouched.

The country is in EXCELLENT hands. :lol

[Vashner]

There goes 10 percent of San Antonio's juice.. they are shutting down the STNP reactors...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

^ Dude, take your pissant political talk to the Political Board.

Edit: this is meant for croutons

[SpursWoman]

True--I was just kidding anyway. I should have candles and batteries to begin with.


I always have plenty of candles & batteries. :angel

[Vashner]

Stop getting dirty :)

[Shelly]

I always have plenty of candles & batteries. :angel

:lol

I was just thinking that a girl could never have too many batteries.....

[Kori Ellis]

Damn, the wife and I just got back into Galveston on Monday morning from our cruise and that night we saw the first warnings for Galveston.

Phew!


At least you are back and safe. How was the cruise?

[SpursWoman]

:lol

I was just thinking that a girl could never have too many batteries.....


I wouldn't mind looking into a generator either, for that matter.... :lol

[Shelly]

I wouldn't mind looking into a generator either, for that matter.... :lol


Damn.....

[Vashner]

How about a diesel powered hydraulic jackhammer?

[j-6]

"This could bankrupt our country."

nah, the Repubs just "offset" Katrina costs by
cancelling $4B for Corp for Pub Broadcasting, which pretty much kills it,
cancelling the moon/mars project $44B,
etc, etc.

Howeever, $1.5T in tax cuts for the rich + corps (7 or 8 Katrinas) will be untouched.

The country is in EXCELLENT hands. :lol


...Crawford hurricane maker...


-or-


...dude, fuck you, wrong forum...


-or-

[TPark]
...STFU asshole...
[TPark]

-or-


...insensitive prick...



In any case, they're all correct.

[sa_butta]

Im filling up my gas tanks tonight, by Saturday we will be at $3.00 again.

[Vashner]

It already went up like 30 cents today..

If it hits either of the 2 refinery rows in Corpus or Houston we are looking at 6-10 dollar a gallon...

[Horry For 3!]

It already went up like 30 cents today..

If it hits either of the 2 refinery rows in Corpus or Houston we are looking at 6-10 dollar a gallon...
Good thing I just got gas yesterday at 2.69

[MannyIsGod]

000
URNT12 KNHC 212027
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/19:36:50Z
B. 24 deg 21 min N
086 deg 21 min W
C. 700 mb 2360 m
D. 125 kt
E. 053 deg 009 nm
F. 134 deg 161 kt
G. 048 deg 016 nm
H. EXTRAP 914 mb
I. 8 C/ 3063 m
J. 27 C/ 3042 m
K. 2 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C20
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF300 1418A RITA OB 11
MAX FL WIND 161 KT NE QUAD 19:32:00 Z
SLP EXTRAPOLATED FROM 700 MB

And the incredible drop continues. Down to 914 and the winds are at 165mph.

[ObiwanGinobili]

The storm is expected to make landfall in Texas near Port Lavaca early Saturday morning as a Category 4.

oh shitty shit fuck fuck.
:depressed

i have never prayed so hard in my life! I really want my mom;'s place to come out ok.... dag dab it! that woman hs been thru enough allready!

[TMTTRIO]

I can say that I've never seen anything like this especially two very powerful hurricanes hit around the same area in a very little time. I just hope everybody stays safe. My cousins live in Galveston and they're coming down to stay with me in San Marcos. Speaking of gas, I just filled up for $2.49 at the Diamond Shamrock the other day at Schertz parkway but I guess this means no more coming home for the weekend for a while from San Marcos.

[MannyIsGod]

19 degree eye wall differntial. That might be larger than at any point during Katrina. I'm ready for this thing to break Katrina's marks. That is fucking scary.

[Vashner]

Woah 40-45 foot seas...

GMZ086-212130-

E GULF BETWEEN 81W AND 85W

1030 AM CDT WED SEP 21 2005



...HURRICANE WARNING S OF 26N...



.THIS AFTERNOON...TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS OR GREATER WITHIN

120 NM NE QUADRANT...100 NM SE QUADRANT...60 NM SW QUADRANT .AND

105 NM NW QUADRANT. HIGHEST WINDS 120 KT GUSTS TO 145 KT. SEAS

12 FT OR GREATER FROM 23N TO 28N. HIGHEST SEAS 40 TO 45 FT.

ELSEWHERE WINDS 20 TO 33 KT. SEAS 8 TO 12 FT. NUMEROUS SHOWERS

AND SQUALLS MOVING W.

.TONIGHT...FROM 24N TO 26N W OF 84W TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS

DECREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT LATE. SEAS 15 TO 25 FT SUBSIDING TO 12

TO 17 FT LATE. ELSEWHERE S OF 28N E TO SE WINDS 20 TO 30 KT.

SEAS 7 TO 11 FT. N OF 28N E WINDS 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 8 FT.

SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND SQUALLS MOVING W OF AREA LATE.

.THU AND THU NIGHT...E TO SE WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS 8 TO 11 FT.

SCATTERED SHOWERS AND TSTMS.

.FRI...SE WINDS 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 8 FT.

.SAT...SE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT.

.SUN...E TO SE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT.



$$

FORECASTER AGUIRRE/DGS

[SpursWoman]

w/Katrina they were up to 85-90ft

[Vashner]

w/Katrina they were up to 85-90ft

Yes but this is just early data and forcasting... it's possible to see some 60 footers before it's over or bigger.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm listening to Corpus radio (KEYS) on the net and they're getting pretty serious about moving people out of the area; there's some serious concern down there and with good reason. As the strike point seems to be drifting south (now Port Lavaca) it makes Corpus as vulnerable as Galveston. (though I just heard that the storm is evidencing that northwesterly movement that has been expected)

In any event, it's good that they're starting to move people out now -- after the Bret experience in 1999, they had to seriously re-evaluate how to evacuate the city. I had to ride Bret out because there was no way for me to get out of Corpus -- no gas anywhere in the city and a drive of about 7-8 hours up to San Antonio.

[Shelly]

How far is Port Lavaca from CC?

[Duff McCartney]

Those fvckers in OPEC better start cranking out the barrels and cranking down our costs.

That's a fucking joke. It's even more funny coming from you.

[samikeyp]

Question for the Hurricane Guru...with all that open water still ahead of her...could Rita's winds get to 200mph?

[Vashner]

There are a few armchair guru's here.. It is possible to get 200mph winds... but they think it may slow to a 4 before landfall.

[Duff McCartney]

This thing is being pumped full of energy from the warm water in the Gulf. It's still about 85 degree water there.

[SpursWoman]

That's a fucking joke. It's even more funny coming from you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/21/business/21place.html

[MannyIsGod]

Mike, I'm not saying anything is impossible at this point but I would think that it will not get there.

[samikeyp]

Mike, I'm not saying anything is impossible at this point but I would think that it will not get there.

thank you, Guru. :)

[ObiwanGinobili]

How far is Port Lavaca from CC?


ehh ..about an hour and 20 mins......I'm not sure about the actual miles tho.

[MannyIsGod]

thank you, Guru. :)
Psh. Not even close.

[samikeyp]

Jeez Manny, try to give you a compliment....damn, you are worse than a woman! :p

[xrayzebra]

It already went up like 30 cents today..

If it hits either of the 2 refinery rows in Corpus or Houston we are looking at 6-10 dollar a gallon...

I hope this is a joke, or are you now working for a news group?

[JoeChalupa]

At least you are back and safe. How was the cruise?

It was awesome. I highly recommend a cruise for a vacation.

Now time to prepare for Rita!

[MannyIsGod]

You know, I'm not sure. I know that Super Typhoon Tip was the strongest tropical cyclone of all time and that had winds of 190mph with a 880mb pressure. That storm was literally as big as half the contential US though.

I doubt we'll ever see anything like that in the Atlantic basin.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.nationmaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Typhoonsizes.jpg

[maxpower]

Big problem with the mandatory evact that will be announced in CC later today. All the people that are getting paid early can't cash there checks with the banks closing this is a bad idea.

If they would wait till 1 tomarrow people can at least get funds if power goes down ATM's will be usless much like N.O.
If it's an emergency I would think one would go ahead and pay the 1% charge and cash it at a grocery store. Otherwise go deposit it via ATM or night deposit tonight and expect it to be processed early tomorrow. Then if you are evacuating, you will go to a place where the ATMs work.

[SpursWoman]

You know, I'm not sure. I know that Super Typhoon Tip was the strongest tropical cyclone of all time and that had winds of 190mph with a 880mb pressure. That storm was literally as big as half the contential US though.

I doubt we'll ever see anything like that in the Atlantic basin.



Is that the one that got Gilligan off the island? :lol

[j-6]

Cameras:
Pier cam from Corpus:
http://www.corpuscoast.com/bob_hall_pier_cam.htm

From H-Town's Museum of Natural Science:
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/texas/houston/museum/

SPI (even though it's not targeted)
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/texas/southpadreisland/

Galveston Surf Cam (Might be down):
http://www.galvestonsurfcam.com/

Matagorda Beach (scroll to bottom of screen)
http://www.matagordabay.com/

News:

KAVU, Channel 25, Victoria
http://www.kavutv.com/

KRIS, Channel 6, Corpus (w/ blog and streaming video)
http://www.kristv.com/

KTRK, Houstoin, Ch 13 (w/ streaming video)
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/

Radio feeds:

KTRH 740, Houston
http://www.ktrh.com/main.html

Live NOAA radio from Caller-Times
http://www.caller2.com/multimedia/weather_radio/

[Shelly]

Weather Bug just updated their forecast, They are predicting heat index readings of 108 to 129 on Saturday and 110 Saturday night! WTF?

[SpursWoman]

I highly recommend direct deposit. :)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Weather Bug = spyware. Get that junk off your computer!

[Shelly]

Weather Bug = spyware. Get that junk off your computer!


yeah, but my son's elementary school is one of it's location, so I REALLY get local weather.

[SpursWoman]

Weather Bug = spyware. Get that junk off your computer!


Oh man, our IT guy had a fit when I told him I had that on my computer (at home) ... not only spyware, but it sucks up major memory. And that cricket shit is annoying.


:fro :lol

[Marklar MM]

When and what was this I've never heard of it.

http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/tropics/tip.htm

Ranks number 1 as the most intense tropical cyclone on record. Tip was located in the northwest Pacific Ocean, which on October 12, 1979 had winds gusting as high as 190 mph (306 km/h) and a central pressure of 870 mb (25.69"Hg). The size of the circulation around Typhoon Tip was approximately 1350 miles (2174 km) across. If placed over the continental U.S., it would almost cover the western half of the country.


http://www.weather.com/encyclopedia/tropical/climo.html
near the bottom


(On that map, I am guessing the little circle in mid Texas is Tracy. Small compared to Tip.

Cyclone Tracy
It was Christmas Day, 1974, in Darwin, Australia, and Cyclone Tracy was about to make landfall.

Cyclone Tracy began as a weak tropical low about 450 miles northeast of Darwin. Moving slowly to the southwest, it was classified as a cyclone late on December 21, at the start of the hurricane season in the Southern Hemisphere.

As Tracy came around Bathurst Island, northwest of the Australia, satellite imagery showed a rapid intensification when the storm moved across warm ocean water in the Beagle Gulf. Tracy then changed course and headed in a beeline for Darwin, Australia.

Tracy moved slowly onto land, about five miles per hour, causing great devastation due to its lingering pace. Strong winds, gusting up to 135 miles per hour, ravaged Darwin for at least five hours. The tropical cyclone's small, tight eye passed directly over the city.

The city of Darwin was almost completely leveled and had to be rebuilt. Tracy killed 50 residents of Darwin and fifteen people were lost at sea.

[boutons]

"heat index readings of 108 to 129 on Saturday and 110 Saturday night"

84F is predicted max for Saturday

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/weather/

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh man, our IT guy had a fit when I told him I had that on my computer (at home) ... not only spyware, but it sucks up major memory. And that cricket shit is annoying.

No lie, that thing is the devil. Shelly, I don't care if your kid is getting royalties off of that thing, you need to uninstall it.

Weather Bug is to smooth computer performance what concrete blocks on your feet are to swimming.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

You got AHF talking in metaphors. Nice.

[Shelly]

"heat index readings of 108 to 129 on Saturday and 110 Saturday night"

84F is predicted max for Saturday

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/weather/

Hence, the WTF.

[tlongII]

You know, I'm not sure. I know that Super Typhoon Tip was the strongest tropical cyclone of all time and that had winds of 190mph with a 880mb pressure. That storm was literally as big as half the contential US though.

I doubt we'll ever see anything like that in the Atlantic basin.

Of course the wind speed in a tornado is much higher than any typhoon.

[FromWayDowntown]

:lmao

You got AHF talking in metaphors. Nice.

and SAT-type analogies.

[TheWriter]

Of course the wind speed in a tornado is much higher than any typhoon.

Yeah, but hurricanes are much bigger. Cause more damage, are more deadlier, can WIPE OUT CITIES.

A tornadoes can only really wipe our your neighborhood. The Hickbottom Trailor Park.

[Marklar MM]

I am to uber rich as Bill gates is to semi poor. That is a good metaphor.

[MannyIsGod]

Of course the wind speed in a tornado is much higher than any typhoon.
Not nessecarily. Only F4 and F5 Tornados have winds stronger than a catagory 5 hurricane or a super typhoon.

[Shelly]

Okay, Aggie. I removed it just for you. It's still on the kids' computer, but there computer is always full of spyware anyway...lol

[Marklar MM]

Okay, Aggie. I removed it just for you. It's still on the kids' computer, but there computer is always full of spyware anyway...lol


Spyware...EWWWWW. I think the FCC or whatever is regulating internet downloads should spend less time cracking down on piracy and spend more time getting rid of all these companies uploading their programs onto your computer without your consent.

[MannyIsGod]

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/21:16:00Z
B. 24 deg 24 min N
086 deg 32 min W
C. 700 mb 2292 m
D. 55 kt
E. 137 deg 081 nm
F. 238 deg 145 kt
G. 141 deg 009 nm
H. 904 mb
I. 9 C/ 3046 m
J. 30 C/ 3052 m
K. -1 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C20
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF300 1418A RITA OB 17
MAX FL WIND 161 KT NE QUAD 19:32:00 Z

Pressure down to 904.

Son of a bitch, if this continues, she may become the strongest Atlantic storm of all time.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm on my way home. Won't be suprised if this storm is under 900 by the time I get there.

[Sonia_TX]

This thing is making my stomach turn.

[Ginofan]

I wake up to 904mb, good lord! If she keeps this up she could possibly break Hurricane Gilbert's record of 888mb!

[samikeyp]

I remember Gilbert....we got the rain up here and played football in it. That was fun. We were teenagers...and yes a little stupid! :)


Anyone know how high the sea wall at Galveston is?

[Marcus Bryant]

What level of wind speed are we looking at in San Antonio de Bexar?

[Vashner]

CORPUS CHRISTI - KRIS 6 News has learned that the City of Corpus Christi is expected to issue a mandatory evacuation for the City of corpus Christi later this afternoon. Stay with KRIS 6 News and KRISTV.COM for the latest updates.

[Vashner]

What level of wind speed are we looking at in San Antonio de Bexar?
Up to tropical storm winds.. trees can be blown. power down..
Have up to 72 hours of supplies ready.

[Ginofan]

I remember Gilbert....we got the rain up here and played football in it. That was fun. We were teenagers...and yes a little stupid! :)


Anyone know how high the sea wall at Galveston is?

I think about 17feet.

[Marcus Bryant]

http://www.timvp.com/sanfordandson8.jpg

"Elizabeth! It's the big one!"

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Marcus -

They are predicting it will still be a Cat 1 when it gets to College Station. F@*#!!!

[Ginofan]

Hey AHF, did they officially move the game to Thursday yet?

[Shelly]

http://www.timvp.com/sanfordandson8.jpg

"Elizabeth! It's the big one!"

:lmao

[travis2]

Shit, Manny...both NAM and GFS have that thing wobbling around like it drank a case of tequila...

If GFS ends up being right, Houston/Galveston is going to take it right in the ass...with sand...

[Marklar MM]

This is a message from God. The end is near.

[samikeyp]

thanks Mandy. :)


What level of wind speed are we looking at in San Antonio de Bexar?

heard on the Ticket this morning (they were interviewing someone from the Weather Channel) that if she hits right, we could get winds in downtown up to 60-70mph. Don't know how accurate that is but that is what he said.

[Vashner]

I have been thru one here passing before.. it blew down trees and power was out all day.. so expect about the same thing if it tracks up here.. tornadoes too...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hey AHF, did they officially move the game to Thursday yet?

Yep, 7:30 kickoff. Probably the one and only positive to come out of this storm - Fox Sports SW is picking up the game. KAMU, the local station, is doing the vid, and uplinking to Fox Sports SW who will beam it throughout its viewing area.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damnit, it sucks that something that looks so beautiful and perfect is going to really fuck everything up...

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goeseast/hurricane/color/0000_latest.jpg

[Ginofan]

Yep, 7:30 kickoff. Probably the one and only positive to come out of this storm - Fox Sports SW is picking up the game. KAMU, the local station, is doing the vid, and uplinking to Fox Sports SW who will beam it throughout its viewing area.

Sweet, thanks for the info.

[ObiwanGinobili]

okay - I've got a question:

What should I do with my dog????

My dog, Mr. Big, lives at my mom's. My 7yr old brother has been "borrowing" him for almost 2 yrs. the thing is that Mr. Big HATES riding in the car.. and he grew out of his carrier a long long time ago. We havn't needed to get a new carrier becasue he never goes anywhere and the vet is around the corner.....

now with my mom evacing form Victoria and pretty sure that her house will not survive... we have a dilema!! She doesn;t think he'll stay calm enough to drive al lthe way to SA and actually suggested to me that she take him to the Vet and have him put down! :(
He's only 35 pnds and has a bum rear leg (was hit by a truck as a puppy).. I'm thinking they could handle him for the drive up here.. btu my mom is sounding less then enthusiastic.

dag nab it!!
I'm gonna try and talk her into boarding him... if she can find an open place ...

what do ya'll think?

[Vashner]

lol don't put it down.. put it in the car.. let him / her go out fighting at least.. geeze..

[Marklar MM]

Horrible idea to put down a dog that still has years left to live. If they can't handle a dog in a car for a couple hours, I don't know what to say. I couldn't live with myself if I had to put my dog down because of that.

[TheWriter]

Take the dog. Stupid to put the dog down.

[Sonia_TX]

Don't put him down. That's crazy. So what if he hates riding in cars...I hate working out but I do it anyway. lol He'll just have to get used to it.

[Marklar MM]

Don't put him down. That's crazy. So what if he hates riding in cars...I hate working out but I do it anyway. lol He'll just have to get used to it.


I think I should start working out.

[midgetonadonkey]

I think a vet can give you a sedative for the dog so he can crash out during the car ride. You should probably ask the vet what you can do, but for Christ's sake don't put him down.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I agree, that's weak even thinking about putting the dog down.

Back to Rita...

7-8 foot surge in Florida panhandle right now from the storm.

This thing is gonna rock the coast, and if NO gets that same surge they are hosed again.

[j-6]

I give my dog, who's about 40 lbs, half a Benadryl before I drive from my place to SA. She's usually asleep in fifteen minutes. I've heard for smaller dogs to give them a baby aspirin to fall asleep, too.

[Marklar MM]

My dog just passes out in the car.

[Flea]

We gave our dog dramamine once. It worked. We had just started out on a trip many years ago and we took our 7month old puppy with us. Come to find out he was car sick. He was throwing up every 15-20 minutes. We were in a pick up truck and he was riding between me and my husband. We were desperate so we got some dramamine and it worked....he was sleepy and we really watched for any signs of distress. After a couple of days he got the hang of car riding. :)

[MannyIsGod]

The forcast calls for sustained winds in the 40-50 mph range. I think that is safe if not a bit higher than what we'll see. The storm is almost certainly going to come in east of here, so we'll be on the dry west side of the storm with windy conditions. Nothing to be too worried about.

[NZHayden]

I know a Rita that lives in Corpus Christi!
:lmao

[Vashner]

Tornadoes... don't forget...

[ObiwanGinobili]

Good news!!

Mom is bringing the dog. she said she was just frustrated when she made the "put him to sleep" comment. I've forgiven her.

She;s vringing the dog and my baby bro and some stuff tonight, going back tonight . packing up with other kids and Bob and leaving Vic. in the morning around 9am.


thank god!

[ObiwanGinobili]

BTW- i'm relaying the baby aspirin/dramamine/benedryl tips.
:tu thanks!

[Ginofan]

650 Pm Cdt Wed Sep 21 2005

...rita Becomes The Third Most Intense Hurricane On Record...

Dropsonde Data From An Air Force Reserve Unit Reconnaissance
Aircraft At 623 Pm Cdt...2323z...indicated The Central Pressure Has
Fallen To Below 899 Mb...or 26.55 Inches. The Dropsonde Instrument
Measured 32 Kt/35 Mph Winds At The Surface...which Means It Likely
Did Not Record The Lowest Pressure In The Eye Of Rita. The Central
Pressure Is Probably At Least As Low As 898 Mb...and Perhaps Even
Lower. For Official Purposes... A Pressure Of 898 Mb Is Assumed...
Which Now Makes Rita The Third Most Intense Hurricane In Terms Of
Pressure In The Atlantic Basin. Some Additional Deepening And
Intensification Is Possible For The Next 12 Hours Or So.

Rita Currently Ranks Behind Hurricane Gilbert In 1988 With 888 Mb
And The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane With 892 Mb.

Forecaster Stewart

[CharlieMac]

3rd most intense hurricane on record.

Fucking nuts.

[Vashner]

Ruuuuunnnnnnnnnn

[MannyIsGod]

And just like that, you have a 'cane that surpasses Katrina. I wasn't sure I'd ever see that, much less one month later.

[Vashner]

THREAT OF HURRICANE RITA FORCES MANDATORY EVACUATION OF ENTIRE COUNTY

The City of Corpus Christi and Nueces County have ordered the mandatory evacuation of Nueces County in anticipation of the arrival of Hurricane Rita. Mayor Henry Garrett and County Judge Terry Shamsie called for the evacuation as of 6pm today, encouraging people to seek shelter in inland locations. Winds from Hurricane Rita are currently reaching 165mph. It is still early, but the storm is expected to make landfall in the Port O’Connor area sometime early Saturday morning, bringing high winds and rain to the Corpus Christi area as early as Friday afternoon. City Manager Skip Noe would like the City to be evacuated by noon Friday.

The City of Corpus Christi is working with the Regional Transportation Authority to provide assistance to persons with disabilities and those who may not have transportation. People who need evacuation assistance should call 289-5881. The RTA will provide transportation to Oveal Williams Senior Center , where buses are available to transport people out of town.

Corpus Christi City Hall and the Nueces County Courthouse will not be open for normal business on Thursday or Friday. This will allow for better use of City and County resources should they be needed to deal with the situation.

City of Corpus Christi release

[CharlieMac]

What are the chances of a voluntary evac for Bexar?

[SpursWoman]

You can voluntarily evac anytime you want to.... :lol

[CharlieMac]

You can voluntarily evac anytime you want to.... :lol

Harrrrr.....

http://www.dynamiccomic.com/players/1064429940pirate.jpg

:spin

[MannyIsGod]

The chances for an EVAC for Bexar is zilch

[Vashner]

What are the chances of a voluntary evac for Bexar?

Zero..... we have systems to handle floodwaters.. we be fine mon..

[CharlieMac]

Zero..... we have systems to handle floodwaters.. we be fine mon..

I used to think so.

[CharlieMac]

"Mon'". Damn dude, now I'm goin to be saying that all day tomorrow.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

holy shit this thing is the third most intense storm recorded ever!

[MannyIsGod]

no no, the third most intense storm in the atlantic basin. The Pacific has the 10 top storms or so. They usually get way bigger over there.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This evacuation shit is totally exposing the flaw of living in big cities, and by big i mean anythign bigger than ~60000, which isn't big at all.

I heard how its at a fucking standstill on the highways still inside victoria city limits, it will probably take at least 8 or 9 hours to get to austin from victoria

[MannyIsGod]

Well, at least they have plenty of time.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yeah but i wonder how bad it'll be tommorow morning or afternoon

Man im buggin out on this fucking storm, i have so much to study and i cant concentrate for shit

[Manu20]

The 7:09 pm eye report from the hurricane hunters found a 904 mb pressure and flight level winds of 161 knots (186 mph). This pressure makes Rita the 3rd strongest Atlantic hurricane of all time. Tonight, Rita will be passing over the Loop Current, a warm eddy of water in the Gulf that aided Katrina's growth to a Category 5 hurricane. Fueled by this pool of deep warm water and an almost ideal upper level wind environment, Rita should continue to intensify until Thursday morning, when she will pass beyond the Loop Current. The eye has shrunk to 20 nm diameter from 25 nm earlier this afternoon. By the time the eye shrinks down to 10 nm, the eyewall will collapse and an eyewall replacement cycle begin, putting an end to this intensification cycle. With potentially another 12 hours to go before this happens, Rita could challenge Gilbert's 888 mb pressure record.

The list of strongest hurricanes of all time now reads:

Hurricane Gilbert (888 mb, 1988)

The Great Labor Day Hurricane (892 mb, 1935)

Hurricane Rita (898 mb, 2005)

Hurricane Allen (899 mb, 1980)

Hurricane Katrina (902 mb, 2005)

Hurricane Camille (905 mb, 1969)

I expect to rewrite this list when the next reconnaissance aircraft reaches Rita about 9pm tonight. How low can Rita go?

Jeff Masters


Can Rita break Gilberst's record of 888mb pressure?

I will give it a 60% chance.

[MannyIsGod]

Has anyone had trouble with Houston cell phones? I can't get through to Jess' phone and she can't call any of her family in Houston.

[Horry For 3!]

Has anyone had trouble with Houston cell phones? I can't get through to Jess' phone and she can't call any of her family in Houston.
Yeah, my mom did. She tried to call her mother & father, they live in Conroe, which is between Houston, Galveston. They're leaving tomorrow and going to live with my uncle in Austin.

[Vashner]

Hum if they are going to Austin they might consider going up 281.. I heard on radio highway 35 to Austin is at a standstill..

(come to San Antonio.. got north 281 to 290 .. then east to west Austin..)

[boutons]

hey, what's happened to the models? the graphic is broken, but seems like there is a totally new direction after landfall, like RIGHT AT SAN ANTONIO.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200518_model.html

[gay abc]

You can voluntarily evac anytime you want to.... :lol

:lmao

[Ginofan]

The latest runs of two key computer models, the GFS and GFDL, now indicate that the trough of low pressure that was expected to pick up Rita and pull her rapidly northward through Texas will not be strong enough to do so. Instead, these models forecast that Rita will make landfall near Galveston, penetrate inland between 50 and 200 miles, then slowly drift southwestward for nearly two days as a high pressure ridge build in to her north. Finally, a second trough is forecast to lift Rita northwards on Tuesday. If this scenario develops, not only will the coast receive catastrophic damage from the storm surge, but interior Texas, including the Dallas/Fort Worth area, might see a deluge of 15 - 30 inches of rain. A huge portion of Texas would be a disaster area. It is also possible that Rita may not make landfall on Saturday as expected, but pull up just short of the Texas coast and pound it for days as it waits for the next trough to pick it up. We'll have to wait for the next set of model runs due out by tomorrow morning to know better.

[SpursWoman]

W.T.F. ?!?!?!? :wow :wow

[Kori Ellis]

Ginofan, where did you get that?

[SpursWoman]

Ginofan, where did you get that?


Weather geek blog. :lol


http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

[boutons]

look at my link Kori, something's just happened shown in the models, such that Rita is no longer on smooth arc up thru TX

http://www.wunderground.com/tropica...0518_model.html

[Kori Ellis]

Your link doesn't work anymore Boutons.

[Vashner]

UKMET is the one the predicted Katrina right on target...

[boutons]

they changed the URL when they fixed the graphic:
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200518_model.html

[Flea]

I knew I should have bought more water.

[boutons]

if this bitch Rita stalls over Central TX, the Olmos dam is gonna get some action.

[Flea]

This is driving me nuts.

[MannyIsGod]

When I got home and watched the 18z run of the GFS, I noticed that and told it to Jess. The GFS actually picked up on that few runs back.


THE GFS MODEL HAS FAIRLY GOOD CONSISTENCY WITH THE TPC TRACK
PROJECTION UP TO NEAR THE TIME OF LANDFALL; AFTERWARDS THE
FORECAST TRACK AND MODEL CONSENSUS RUN OUT AHEAD OF THE GFS
PROJECTION AS THE 21/00Z GFS BECOMES AN OUTLIER IN HANGING THE
SYSTEM UP OVER TEXAS. THE EXTENDED FORECAST REMAINS MUDDLED WITH
UNCERTAINTY...WITH TRENDS SUGGESTING A BUILDING RIDGE AND LOWERED
RAIN CHANCES BY EARLY NEXT WEEK.

Thats the discussion for the SAT NWS office early this morning.

Its a very plausible scenario and the GFS picks up on trends a lot sooner than other models for the most part. The GFS picked up on this storm last week (remember the Hey Manny thread?) before it was so much as a blob of thunderstorms.

I'm buying it. The look of that trof is not very good and the high pressure system has done some weird things lately.

Get ready for quite a bit of rain if it happens.

[MannyIsGod]

UKMET is the one the predicted Katrina right on target...
Many of the models - including the GFS - picked up on Katrina and nailed her landfall.

[SpursWoman]

I knew I should have bought more water.


I cut through the HEB parking lot by my kids' daycare....and it was PACKED....people coming out with baskets over-loaded.

That was nothing compared to the lines at Walmart to fill up on some of that $2.57 gas. :wow

We just went this past weekend and filled up our 5 gallon water cooler bottles. Between that and the pantry full of Little Debbie snacks, refried beans and sardines, if anything happens we'll be fine. I may hit the liquor store tomorrow, though. :lol

[boutons]

big change in the latest model run:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200518_model.html

[Shelly]

I cut through the HEB parking lot by my kids' daycare....and it was PACKED....people coming out with baskets over-loaded.

That was nothing compared to the lines at Walmart to fill up on some of that $2.57 gas. :wow

We just went this past weekend and filled up our 5 gallon water cooler bottles. Between that and the pantry full of Little Debbie snacks, refried beans and sardines, if anything happens we'll be fine. I may hit the liquor store tomorrow, though. :lol

I know! Bob was gonna stop at Costco and said it was packed! Same with the gas stations.

[Kori Ellis]

So, how much rain is speculated here in San Antonio?

[Vashner]

My cheap guess would be 2-8 inches over the weekend.

[MannyIsGod]

Thats actually a pretty good guess, Vashner. No one really knows, but I would suspect if the storm stalls and heads out our way we could easily surpass 10 inches of rain this weekend.

[boutons]

dam, Advisory #17 has it stalling, too!

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/205648.shtml?tswindloop?

... has not coming ashore by next Monday!! stalling off shore.

Things just got a lot more interesting, and worse for central TX.

[MannyIsGod]

You're reading that plot incorrectly, Boutons. The NHC or the NWS have not made changes to their forcasts and are still saying Rita will head north upon landfall.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If the storm veers slightly east, and hits more along the east coast, isn't that good for west coast because the storm surge doesn't come along the west part of the hurricane?

[bigzak25]

what's with giving all the hurricanes that displace mexicans, hispanic names like 'Rita'...

[boutons]

so you're saying their forecast words speak louder than the graphics on both sites that show the hurricane still off shore or over TX by next Monday?

the graphics on NHC are not coherent, the animations show stalling over TX through Monday, but the 5-day track shows as before, arcing up through OK on Monday.

[Hook Dem]

You're reading that plot incorrectly, Boutons. The NHC or the NWS have not made changes to their forcasts and are still saying Rita will head north upon landfall.
Manny....The NHC has not updated for a while. However, Jeff Masters has made some interesting observations. Several of the models have it drifting back over San Antonio after going inland. Jeff Masters says it may pullup before hitting the coast and pound the coastline for 2 days. Bad situation for south central Texas. Rain of biblical proportions would be possible if this happens.

[Hook Dem]

so you're saying their forecast words speak louder than the graphics on both sites that show the hurricane still off shore or over TX by next Monday?

the graphics on NHC are not coherent, the animations show stalling over TX through Monday, but the 5-day track shows as before, arcing up through OK on Monday.
You are correct Boutons. Something is not right on this. Maybe the reason the NHC hasn't updated is because they don't actually know what is going to happen?

[spurs=bling]

what's with giving all the hurricanes that displace mexicans, hispanic names like 'Rita'... :lol

[bigzak25]

does weather tracking really get you guys rocks off?

i mean...that's great if so...but man...why not get some good paying jobs doing it professionally!

[Ginofan]

does weather tracking really get you guys rocks off?

i mean...that's great if so...but man...why not get some good paying jobs doing it professionally!

It's just really beautiful and fascinating stuff from a mother nature standpoint, I don't know how you can't be at least a little bit interested in it.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm into pretty much anything remotely related to the physical sciences: atmospheric science, oceanography, geology, astronomy, physics.

I find it all fascinating. I really just want to know how everything works. I get so obssessd with finding out why things are the way they are I read a lot about them.

It is really hard to make that a career choice though. Especially after you knocked off in HS and didn't get yourself into a decent college because prestige is huge when it comes to getting into the approriate places and getting a job.

But I'm still considering it.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Wait untill we have a string theory thread. Then you'll see who the real hardcore geeks in this forum are.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:lol

Wait untill we have a string theory thread. Then you'll see who the real hardcore geeks in this forum are.


Id love to talk about string theory instead of the ominous onslaught headed our way

[SequSpur]

Thanks Steve Brown.

[bigzak25]

i love astronomy and ancient historical stuff like egypt, indians in south america, bibilical times, etc, but i'm not too much for weather...i spend too much time thinking comedy, music, and hot men...i feel guilty...but just a lil bit...:)

[MannyIsGod]

The 0z run of the NAM is currently running. At about 10, the GFS will be ready to go, and then we'll have that one sometime before midnight. Once that is done, the smaller hurricane models such as the GFDL can run.

[Manu20]

does weather tracking really get you guys rocks off?

i mean...that's great if so...but man...why not get some good paying jobs doing it professionally!

Since I could remember I have had interest in weather.

I was considering studying Meteorology but decided to study Bussines administration Specialization: Banking.

[Sense]

Any of you think the storm could affect places like, Beaumont...lufkin, diboll?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yeah but i wonder how bad it'll be tommorow morning or afternoon

As for the traffic, as the storm gets closer they will reverse all the highways out to one way, and when that happens the traffic flow will pick up.

[Ginofan]

Any of you think the storm could affect places like, Beaumont...lufkin, diboll?

I'm pretty sure Beaumont would get tons of rain and wind, since it would get the strong side of the storm...if we are still headed for a Galveston area landfall. I have relatives in Port Arthur which is right next to Beaumont and they've already headed out

[MannyIsGod]

The way the upper air situation is setting up, I wouldn't want to be anywhere on the Texas coast because there is a lot of unperdictability involved with this storm.

[Sense]

I'm pretty sure Beaumont would get tons of rain and wind, since it would get the strong side of the storm...if we are still headed for a Galveston area landfall. I have relatives in Port Arthur which is right next to Beaumont and they've already headed out

They are getting more rain than they already get?


That could mean floods. :rolleyes


I have relatives in Beaumont, and I just couldn't believe it was a Texas city. They get so many rain throughout the week, it might actually affect them.


Thanks, and sorry for a "stupid question" but I just haven't been on top of things.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well my Friday and next week just got a lot less busy... Got clients all along the coast who have relocated to north and west Texas and basically taking a vacation.

I may go down there with a group from work to help clean up though, they're some good people and it sucks thinking about their homes and lives being fucked up like is probably gonna happen.

[SpursWoman]

They are getting more rain than they already get?


That could mean floods. :rolleyes


I have relatives in Beaumont, and I just couldn't believe it was a Texas city. They get so many rain throughout the week, it might actually affect them.


Thanks, and sorry for a "stupid question" but I just haven't been on top of things.

No one said it was a stupid question.... :wtf

Beaumont is close to the coast....no where there is safe. I hope they've left or have plans to do so...

[Ginofan]

They are getting more rain than they already get?


That could mean floods. :rolleyes


I have relatives in Beaumont, and I just couldn't believe it was a Texas city. They get so many rain throughout the week, it might actually affect them.


Thanks, and sorry for a "stupid question" but I just haven't been on top of things.

It wasn't a stupid question...and I'm probably not the best person to answer but I figured I'd give it a shot anyway. :oops

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I sure hope people listen to reason and cut down their driving over the next few days, so those evacuees can get to their destinations

[MannyIsGod]

Jess' family is staying is Houston. We tried to talk them out of it, but they didn't want to leave.

I gues there wasn't enough Katrina coverage because people just don't understand.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I just got done talking to one of my friends who lives in Port A, they are getting out tomorrow.

Him: "we couldn't get any plywood, I've got some ducktape I'm gonna put on the windows. Do you think I should just make an X, or what?"

Me: "dude, just make a giant middle finger on them and get the hell out of there."

[KEDA]

Jess' family is staying is Houston. We tried to talk them out of it, but they didn't want to leave.

I gues there wasn't enough Katrina coverage because people just don't understand.


I will keep them in my prayers Manny, I hope it dosent hit Houston anyway, I have relatives there as well.

[j-6]

AHF/Ginofan/other Aggies-

I'm trying to get my sister up here in Fort Worth from College Station. She doesn't want to leave until Friday morning, 'cause she's getting her ring Thursday and is going to the football game.

I think the traffic on 45 is going to be atrocious, so I told her to take Hwy 6 to Waco, then head up 35. You guys have any better ideas?

[Manu20]

As of 10pm Rita has winds of 175mph gusting to 215mph and minimum pressure is 897mb.

[Ginofan]

AHF/Ginofan/other Aggies-

I'm trying to get my sister up here in Fort Worth from College Station. She doesn't want to leave until Friday morning, 'cause she's getting her ring Thursday and is going to the football game.

I think the traffic on 45 is going to be atrocious, so I told her to take Hwy 6 to Waco, then head up 35. You guys have any better ideas?




Your sister's an Aggie and you're a Longhorn fan? Woo sibbling rivalry!

I wish I could help you out with traffic directions, but I'm the worst when it comes to that, I go one way there and one way back. Maybe AHF or Jim have some suggestions.

[ObiwanGinobili]

My mom left Vic. 30 min's ago.
I'm not expecting her to show up here for hours seeing as how he traffic is so bad.
But she has to turn right around and go back to get the rest of the fam..... just driving is gonna take FOREVER.

Meanwhile I havn;t been able to get thru to my BF Randi alllll day. And I've tried calling like 100 times. :(
the plan was that they would leave Clute around 6pm.
I guess I'll find out when/if they get here.