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SAGirl
02-16-2016, 01:47 PM
Ray isn't going to get playing time unless Patty is moved.
He's insurance for Tony. But I really think Ray was very lost in the offense and unable to act as a PG to start the season. Both Simmons and Anderson could bc 2 and 1 yrs. In the system respectively + SL stints. Ray had none of that and it showed. But he's more a combo guard than Simmons who is more a true wing with SG size. I think Ray could play the 2 in some matchups. I actually saw him deal with Oladipo much better than Simmons did. I definitely can see him playing more next season if he's still here and it seems like he will. We could be much worse for a 3rd string PG.

SD126
02-16-2016, 01:54 PM
Leuer won't come in handy at all. Like seriously, what are you smoking? And while Butler isn't going to check Blake or Draymond, he'll be fine as a fifth big in that scenario.

So you're saying Rasual Butler would grow about 4-5 inches and play PF/C??

SD126
02-16-2016, 01:56 PM
Sac has made Beli available. His shooting is missed.

He can stay and rot in SacTown. Not paying that contract for a liability on defense. He makes Simmons look like Bruce Bowen on D given he's that bad.

sasaint
02-16-2016, 01:58 PM
Have you ACTUALLY seen Leuer play? He's the white version Patrick Patterson & a better TWO-WAY player than bitch ass Teletovic. I can see him playing a Chris "Birdman" Anderson type role on a contender except he can actually shoot.:lol The Cripples could use him & he can play alongside DeAndre but GM Doc is an idiot.

Tbh, I have not seen Leuer play. How do you rank him and the Plumlee boys?

Chinook
02-16-2016, 01:59 PM
So you're saying Rasual Butler would grow about 4-5 inches and play PF/C??

I'm not.

RD2191
02-16-2016, 02:00 PM
Bring marco back tbh

spursistan
02-16-2016, 02:03 PM
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HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:03 PM
So you're saying Rasual Butler would grow about 4-5 inches and play PF/C??

Butler is closer to being a PF than SF in today's league and considering his age, tbh..

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:03 PM
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One of the most overrated players in the NBA, tbh..

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:04 PM
Butler is closer to being a PF than SF in today's league and considering his age, tbh..

You don't really need a true SF when Kawhi is going to be playing heavy minutes. Rasual will be fine playing backup against guys like Matt Barnes, Brandon Rush, Wes Johnson, Kyle Singler..etc.:lol If MCW is on the roster he can play the 3 against someone like Iggy.

spursistan
02-16-2016, 02:06 PM
One of the most overrated players in the NBA, tbh..
But SVG gets the best out of these guys :lol...

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:12 PM
Tbh, I have not seen Leuer play. How do you rank him and the Plumlee boys?

Leuer can shoot the ball & put it on the floor which is something the Plumlee boys aren't capable of doing on a consistent basis. The best comparison I got for you is Patrick Patterson of the Raptors. He has been misused like Channing Frye was early on in his career b/c he's a stretch 4 that isn't being used as a stretch 4.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:14 PM
One of the most overrated players in the NBA, tbh..

Would be strange to just bail out of his contract like that. I wouldn't want Ersan if I were the Magic (though I'd want him next year if I were the Spurs), so this does just seem to be about his nearly fully non-guaranteed deal. Jennings would help them this year, but I also can't see him being re-signed. Strange trade, as I think Harris would net more.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:17 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240815/Teams-Using-$92M-Projected-Cap-For-16-17

Actually a huge deal. If it is just a little higher, the Spurs will be in the conversation for a max slot, provided they dump the ballast to get there. Even if they don't, they could have a good $15 Million in cap space.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:20 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240815/Teams-Using-$92M-Projected-Cap-For-16-17

Actually a huge deal. If it is just a little higher, the Spurs will be in the conversation for a max slot, provided they dump the ballast to get there. Even if they don't, they could have a good $15 Million in cap space.

I was aware of that when I made the Noah suggestion, dude can't possible get more than 12-14 mill until he proves his health.

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:20 PM
Would be strange to just bail out of his contract like that. I wouldn't want Ersan if I were the Magic (though I'd want him next year if I were the Spurs), so this does just seem to be about his nearly fully non-guaranteed deal. Jennings would help them this year, but I also can't see him being re-signed. Strange trade, as I think Harris would net more.

I'm not a fan of scoring SFs that don't do anything else at a high level(although I guess Harris is a pretty decent rebounder IIRC), but ya, that's a pretty awful return..

Seems like a Scott Skiles move, though..IIRC, he wasn't a fan of Harris in Milwaukee, either..

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 02:21 PM
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Sounds like it's almost a done deal.

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:23 PM
Marcus Morris has been asking to play the 4 more, so this makes sense, in that regard..

Drummond
Morris
Harris
KCP/Johnson
Jackson

Pretty nice starting unit, if they can put it together..could win some games in the 1st round..


Sucks for Elfrid Payton:lol..

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:24 PM
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Sounds like it's almost a done deal.

As a fan of the Magic's young core I was hoping they dump Harris for a center & start Gordon (I guess the dunk competition paid off:lol)

coachmac87
02-16-2016, 02:24 PM
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Sounds like it's almost a done deal.

This just shows the Magic have no clue what the fuck they're doing

elemento
02-16-2016, 02:28 PM
I like this deal more for DET than for ORL, but I understand ORL moving Harris.

SpursBig3s
02-16-2016, 02:29 PM
per ESPN, Pistons trade Jennings and Ilyasova to Orlando for Tobias Harris... SIAP

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:30 PM
Sucks for Elfrid Payton:lol..

Jennings has an expiring contract & they did the deal to dump Harris. Payton is fine since Skiles like defensive PGs as Kirk Hinrick proved.:lol

They just have to now decide whether to pay Fournier or trade him along w/ Jennings expiring contract or Illyasova.

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 02:31 PM
Marcus Morris has been asking to play the 4 more, so this makes sense, in that regard..

Drummond
Morris
Harris
KCP/Johnson
Jackson

Pretty nice starting unit, if they can put it together..could win some games in the 1st round..


Sucks for Elfrid Payton:lol..

Does anyone in that lineup shoot over 35% from 3? :lol

raybies
02-16-2016, 02:33 PM
Whether you think Harris is solid or not, you got to respect SVG as a GM. He turned that franchise around. Look where they were headed under Dumars. It's impressive. Bold leader. I don't doubt they will be better because they didn't give up much. Ilyasove was a resurrection project and they already have Jackson so they didn't need another starting quality pg.

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:34 PM
Jennings has an expiring contract & they did the deal to dump Harris. Payton is fine since Skiles like defensive PGs as Kirk Hinrick proved.:lol

They just have to now decide whether to pay Fournier or trade him along w/ Jennings expiring contract or Illyasova.

Skiles has already been inconsistent with Payton's minutes, he's only been playing more recently because they don't have an alternative(Napier?:lol)..I'm expecting this to become a split-minutes situation..

Fournier has been pretty nice at the 3, so far..

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:34 PM
I was aware of that when I made the Noah suggestion, dude can't possible get more than 12-14 mill until he proves his health.

The old $15 Million was from stretching Manu, Tim and Diaw. Now, it Manu and Tim retire, the team can just have that much space. Of course, using it on Noah (no, btb) would be bye-bye Boban. But the Spurs could reenter the Pau sweepstakes with a strong chance.

look_at_g_shred
02-16-2016, 02:35 PM
So where does this put elfrid and his role? That sucks for him..

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 02:35 PM
Does anyone in that lineup shoot over 35% from 3? :lol

True..for some reason I thought KCP was shooting well from 3, but apparently he's 31%:wow

That Jodi Meeks signing killed them..he was supposed to be the shooter that SVG was desperate to get..

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:36 PM
Whether you think Harris is solid or not, you got to respect SVG as a GM. He turned that franchise around. Look where they were headed under Dumars. It's impressive. Bold leader. I don't doubt they will be better because they didn't give up much. Ilyasove was a resurrection project and they already have Jackson so they didn't need another starting quality pg.

What you have to respect the most is that he got Ilyasova, Morris, Jackson and now Harris while giving up not first-rounders. That's really good.

cjw
02-16-2016, 02:38 PM
It was pretty clear that Jarret Jack was a gunner ala Gary Neal & Livingston was a legit backup who was closing games for BK if anyone saw them play.

BTW..Jack wasn't traded by the Worriers, he ended up in BK after the Cavs signed him. The Worrier had signed Steve Blake to replace Jack but he was miserable.:lol

Yeah, even though they ended up on their respective former teams, it wasn't a trade. Blake was / is awful.

In hindsight, Livingston should never have gone for the MLE, but the league continued to be freaked out about his injury history. Spurs didn't even use their MLE last offseason in full - blessing in disguise as it did allow for them to onboard Aldridge more easily.

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 02:39 PM
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Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:41 PM
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Could actually see him being part of a Horford deal. I know he hasn't been good, but a true stretch-five is uber-rare. Would take him on the Spurs next season if Duncan retires.

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 02:42 PM
I'd like Frye on the Spurs if we didn't already have a stacked big rotation + he wasn't getting paid $20+ million over the next 3 years.

raybies
02-16-2016, 02:43 PM
Don't know why people want Noah. He's not a spur and he's been injured a lot lately. I don't want to spend that much on a player on the decline and who's body is breaking down from all the wear and tear thibs minutes caused. I don't think he's worth the headache. He has a bonehead attitude and severely lacking the character of what we expect in core piece. Don't like the other options either, namely hibbert and mozgov. Maybe Pau if he opts out.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:45 PM
I'd like Frye on the Spurs if we didn't already have a stacked big rotation + he wasn't getting paid $20+ million over the next 3 years.

I mean, if the Spurs could get a starter next to LMA at $8 Million a year, that would be awesome. As crazy at it may sound, dude put up numbers in the Horford range before going to Orlando. If he's not done, I think he'd be a steal.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:47 PM
Skiles has already been inconsistent with Payton's minutes, he's only been playing more recently because they don't have an alternative(Napier?:lol)..I'm expecting this to become a split-minutes situation..

Fournier has been pretty nice at the 3, so far..

They have Hezonja who is also a 3 so it's going to create a log jam like the Gordon/Harris situation. They can reunite Dragic w/ Frye by trading Fournier/Frye for Deng/Whiteside. It would give them the rim protector they are missing because Vuc is a terrible defender.:lol

They can play Gordon at the 4 to matchup with small-ball lineups or play him at the 3 as a defensive stopper & slide Dipo to the point.

Whiteside
Vuc/Gordon
Hezonja/Gordon
Dipo/Hezonja
Payton/Dipo

They could use their pick on a scoring point guard like Jamal Murray.

elemento
02-16-2016, 02:50 PM
I like Frye as a 3rd big off the bench to stretch the floor.

If Duncan retires, I'd rather have a rim protector next to Aldridge.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 02:50 PM
The old $15 Million was from stretching Manu, Tim and Diaw. Now, it Manu and Tim retire, the team can just have that much space. Of course, using it on Noah (no, btb) would be bye-bye Boban. But the Spurs could reenter the Pau sweepstakes with a strong chance.

Pau/LMA would get slaughtered by the Worriers (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201601200CHI.html), besides Boban is only good for padding the point differential.:lol

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 02:52 PM
I mean, if the Spurs could get a starter next to LMA at $8 Million a year, that would be awesome. As crazy at it may sound, dude put up numbers in the Horford range before going to Orlando. If he's not done, I think he'd be a steal.

I was more talking about the Spurs trading for him right now. With us still having Duncan + not really having cap room, getting Frye right now isn't really much of an option I don't think.

I agree that going forward it could be a solid deal. If Duncan retires + the cap goes up as high as it's expected, $8 million/year (actually less since his contract was loaded on the front-end) for a legitimate starting stretch 5 would be nice. His age is somewhat of a concern, but he's still shooting 40% from 3 and RPM has him as a clear net positive player.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:54 PM
I like Frye as a 3rd big off the bench to stretch the floor.

If Duncan retires, I'd rather have a rim protector next to Aldridge.

Frye is actually a pretty decent rim-protector; he and LMA average the same number of blockers per-100 for their careers. People seem to forget that Frye is a legit center and played the position with great success for years.

look_at_g_shred
02-16-2016, 02:55 PM
I could see Frye being clutch in a game or two for us in the post season.

sasaint
02-16-2016, 02:56 PM
Leuer can shoot the ball & put it on the floor which is something the Plumlee boys aren't capable of doing on a consistent basis. The best comparison I got for you is Patrick Patterson of the Raptors. He has been misused like Channing Frye was early on in his career b/c he's a stretch 4 that isn't being used as a stretch 4.

I hope we get some rim protection going forward.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 02:56 PM
Pau/LMA would get slaughtered by the Worriers (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201601200CHI.html), besides Boban is only good for padding the point differential.:lol

You don't play a center next to LMA against the Warriors. But the way Pau has been playing this season, he has plenty in the tank to take it to GS when LMA sits.

gambit1990
02-16-2016, 03:03 PM
I could see Frye being clutch in a game or two for us in the post season.
i liked him when he played for phoenix. haven't seen how he looks on the court in a long time though.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:09 PM
You don't play a center next to LMA against the Warriors. But the way Pau has been playing this season, he has plenty in the tank to take it to GS when LMA sits.

Pau would be nice in Diaw's spot.

If Tim/Manu retire, ship Diaw's partially guaranteed contract to the Hawks to re-acquire Tiago then sign Pau & use the left over money for a Manu replacement (Courtney Lee/Mayo?). Assuming D-West opts-in, he can backup LMA & PATFO can go after a mobile big/stretch 4 like Jon Leuer who can be had for cheap.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:12 PM
i liked him when he played for phoenix. haven't seen how he looks on the court in a long time though.

They were trying to trade him for peanuts during the Summer but there were no takers. I guess his contract was more than desirable for GMs but that could change next season.

elemento
02-16-2016, 03:12 PM
Frye is actually a pretty decent rim-protector; he and LMA average the same number of blockers per-100 for their careers. People seem to forget that Frye is a legit center and played the position with great success for years.

I like him, but it's not like Aldridge is a reference as a rim protector.

I see Frye as a stretch BIG. I'm ok with this pairing as long as they're not the starters. I love him as an option, not as our starting C.

Not sure who we could pursue,but I prefer an authentic rim protector, someone that really intimidates people from driving to the rim, like Gobert or Bogut. I know it's almost impossible to find those guys for cheap, but those are the kind of players that I'd like to see starting with Aldridge.

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 03:15 PM
Courtney Lee has been traded to the Hornets, per Woj.

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 03:15 PM
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Chinook
02-16-2016, 03:16 PM
Pau would be nice in Diaw's spot.

If Tim/Manu retire, ship Diaw's partially guaranteed contract to the Hawks to re-acquire Tiago then sign Pau & use the left over money for a Manu replacement (Courtney Lee/Mayo?). Assuming D-West opts-in, he can backup LMA & PATFO can go after a mobile big/stretch 4 like Jon Leuer who can be had for cheap.

If Tiago is healthy, reacquiring him could be awesome. If he isn't, then hell no. If the Spurs are willing to incentivize the exchange, Diaw can bring back something more important.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:16 PM
I like him, but it's not like Aldridge is a reference as a rim protector.

I see Frye as a stretch BIG. I'm ok with this pairing as long as they're not the starters. I love him as an option, not as our starting C.

Not sure who we could pursue,but I prefer an authentic rim protector, someone that really intimidates people from driving to the rim, like Gobert or Bogut. I know it's almost impossible to find those guys for cheap, but those are the kind of players that I'd like to see starting with Aldridge.

The only proven elite defender that can be had is Noah & Frye isn't much better than Jon Leuer.

NASpurs
02-16-2016, 03:18 PM
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HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 03:22 PM
As an NBA fan, I hope the Grizzlies and Hawks blow their rosters up, tbh..I hate watching middling teams running in circles..

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 03:23 PM
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Checking that guy's Twitter and he looks like another tspence :lol Just gathers up rumors from other legitimate sources + makes up stuff of his own and tries to pretend to be an "insider".

spursistan
02-16-2016, 03:24 PM
Glad C.Lee is going East and not to, say, OKC..

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:25 PM
If Tiago is healthy, reacquiring him could be awesome. If he isn't, then hell no. If the Spurs are willing to incentivize the exchange, Diaw can bring back something more important.

He will have an expiring contract & Pau is going to play starters minutes. There is also a chance Hibbert could sign a 1 yr contract to play the Boban role.

NASpurs
02-16-2016, 03:25 PM
Checking that guy's Twitter and he looks like another tspence :lol Just gathers up rumors from other legitimate sources + makes up stuff of his own and tries to pretend to be an "insider".

I don't know, people were replying to it on reddit like if the guy was legit. I don't even know who he is :lol

AFMadison
02-16-2016, 03:25 PM
Pau would be nice in Diaw's spot.

If Tim/Manu retire, ship Diaw's partially guaranteed contract to the Hawks to re-acquire Tiago then sign Pau & use the left over money for a Manu replacement (Courtney Lee/Mayo?). Assuming D-West opts-in, he can backup LMA & PATFO can go after a mobile big/stretch 4 like Jon Leuer who can be had for cheap.
facepalm

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:26 PM
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I'm assuming Mayo/MCW for Lawson.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 03:27 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Sources: As part of Lee deal, Charlotte sending Brian Roberts, PJ Hairston and two 2nds to Memphis.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Charlotte's Brian Roberts will move to Miami as part of three-team deal with Charlotte and Memphis, sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/)

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 03:27 PM
Charlotte's Brian Roberts will move to Miami as part of three-team deal with Charlotte and Memphis, sources tell @TheVertical

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 03:29 PM
:lol PJ Hairston and Tony Allen in the same backcourt

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-03/17/22/enhanced/webdr07/anigif_enhanced-buzz-12833-1426647088-9.gif

AFMadison
02-16-2016, 03:30 PM
Bring marco back tbh
Is it even possible?

Chinook
02-16-2016, 03:31 PM
Maybe Miami is giving Bird Man and some incentive to save money? They're pretty much done this year anyway.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:32 PM
:lol PJ Hairston and Tony Allen in the same backcourt

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-03/17/22/enhanced/webdr07/anigif_enhanced-buzz-12833-1426647088-9.gif

Tony Allen is definitely getting moved, most likely back to his hometown (Chicago).

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 03:33 PM
Maybe Miami is giving Bird Man and some incentive to save money? They're pretty much done this year anyway.

no. two 2nd rounders...

edit: + birdman :lol

Miami will send Chris Andersen to Memphis in deal too, sources tell @TheVertical

Chinook
02-16-2016, 03:34 PM
no. two 2nd rounders...

That's the incentive. And it's not incentive for Roberts, who's not very good. It's going to be to get rid of whoever they're including for the salary.

EDIT: Glad that got cleared up.

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 03:35 PM
Miami gives up: two 2nd round picks, Chris Andersen
Miami gets: Brian Roberts

Charlotte gives up: Brian Roberts, PJ Hairston
Charlotte gets: Courtney Lee

Memphis gives up: Courtney Lee
Memphis gets: PJ Hairson, Chris Andersen two 2nd round picks from Miami

Think that's how it's going down.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:35 PM
Glad C.Lee is going East and not to, say, OKC..

Short term rental b/c of the MKG injury, Charlotte isn't going to re-sign him so it increases the chance of PATFO scooping him up during the off-season.

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 03:36 PM
Checking that guy's Twitter and he looks like another tspence :lol Just gathers up rumors from other legitimate sources + makes up stuff of his own and tries to pretend to be an "insider".

+1
@ RussJohnsonNBA is a pretender not an insider...

Chinook
02-16-2016, 03:38 PM
Miami gives up: two 2nd round picks, Chris Andersen
Miami gets: Brian Roberts

Charlotte gives up: Brian Roberts, PJ Hairston
Charlotte gets: Courtney Lee

Memphis gives up: Courtney Lee
Memphis gets: PJ Hairson, Chris Andersen two 2nd round picks from Miami

Think that's how it's going down.

That's solid. I think the Heat are going to keep looking for deals to get that cap number even lower. It's really a shame how far McRoberts has fallen. I was really envious of the Heat last summer for getting him with the MLE.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 03:39 PM
That's solid. I think the Heat are going to keep looking for deals to get that cap number even lower. It's really a shame how far McRoberts has fallen. I was really envious of the Heat last summer for getting him with the MLE.

He got injured & hasn't been the same.

FlAVaK
02-16-2016, 03:39 PM
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:cry

ace3g
02-16-2016, 03:41 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Miami will send Chris Andersen to Memphis in deal too, sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/)

HarlemHeat37
02-16-2016, 03:43 PM
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:cry

:lol a cross between TSpence and Wojtek..

apalisoc_9
02-16-2016, 03:49 PM
:lol a cross between TSpence and Wojtek..

To be fair, most reporters steal from one another tbh.

:lol

Everyone starts off with vague breaking news "preliminary talks" "made phone calls" etc.
:lol

spursistan
02-16-2016, 03:50 PM
Short term rental b/c of the MKG injury, Charlotte isn't going to re-sign him so it increases the chance of PATFO scooping him up during the off-season.
Yeah, I just don't want the Thunder to fortify on thr wings this deadline, if there is anyway they could..

SpursFan86
02-16-2016, 03:54 PM
That's solid. I think the Heat are going to keep looking for deals to get that cap number even lower. It's really a shame how far McRoberts has fallen. I was really envious of the Heat last summer for getting him with the MLE.

With the Heat now only being $3.5 million above the tax threshold, have to imagine McRoberts will be getting dealt very soon.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 03:58 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say Hornets and Rockets have discussed a potential Dwight Howard-to-Charlotte trade but have not managed to find workable deal

spursistan
02-16-2016, 03:59 PM
As an NBA fan, I hope the Grizzlies and Hawks blow their rosters up, tbh..I hate watching middling teams running in circles..
And, yet, we haven't heard anything from the dumpster fire that is the Bulls (5-13 in their last 18 games) :lmao..

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 04:00 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say Hornets and Rockets have discussed a potential Dwight Howard-to-Charlotte trade but have not managed to find workable deal


Dwight for Big Al:lmao

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 04:02 PM
And, yet, we haven't heard anything from the dumpster fire that is the Bulls (5-13 in their last 18 games) :lmao..

Playing in the East w/ two All-Stars on the roster & having D-Rose showing flashes is tantalizing. Their best bait was Noah but dude is out for the season.:lol

Chinook
02-16-2016, 04:04 PM
With the Heat now only being $3.5 million above the tax threshold, have to imagine McRoberts will be getting dealt very soon.

They literally have nothing reasonable to bribe teams with at this point. Only way he gets dealt is in a much bigger deal involving Bosh, Whiteside or Winslow.

NASpurs
02-16-2016, 04:05 PM
I wonder if Charlotte would send their stash of big white guys to Houston for Dwert

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 04:10 PM
They literally have nothing reasonable to bribe teams with at this point. Only way he gets dealt is in a much bigger deal involving Bosh, Whiteside or Winslow.

They could trade Whiteside/Deng/McRobert for Big Al but Charlotte already acquired Lee so they don't need Deng as a rental to gamble on Whiteside.

spursistan
02-16-2016, 04:11 PM
Playing in the East w/ two All-Stars on the roster & having D-Rose showing flashes is tantalizing. Their best bait was Noah but dude is out for the season.:lol

To top it off, they are considering PAYING a 36-yo Pau in the summer :lol..They have pussyfooted enough with this core and it cost them..just dump Rose to the Nets, let Pau walk, see what you can get for Taj..shutdown Butler and tank for a higher pick..

SAGirl
02-16-2016, 04:15 PM
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Wow MCW for Ty Lawson????
That seals it for us, we are staying pat, "come rain or shine."

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 04:19 PM
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spursistan
02-16-2016, 04:23 PM
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You have to be a biggish market and borderline contender if want to trade for him..I don't think he will resign in Denver-type situation a year from now..

gambit1990
02-16-2016, 04:30 PM
clippers would be trading the wrong big man if they do ship griffin out.

gambit1990
02-16-2016, 04:43 PM
splitter out for the year...

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 04:44 PM
splitter out for the year...

That's means they will be desperate to dump his contract.:toast

sasaint
02-16-2016, 04:59 PM
That's means they will be desperate to dump his contract.:toast

Could mean his NBA days are over, tbh. How many games has he missed this season and last?

ace3g
02-16-2016, 05:02 PM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Guard Michael Carter-Williams has been told by the Bucks that he would not be traded, a source said, but the Sixers told him the same thing.

raybies
02-16-2016, 05:12 PM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Guard Michael Carter-Williams has been told by the Bucks that he would not be traded, a source said, but the Sixers told him the same thing.


Low ball offers or little to no market, so they harden the stance.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 05:26 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

Beaverfuzz
02-16-2016, 05:41 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).



Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony. I kid Find a backup from the west that can come in and potentially run your offense.

Texas_Ranger
02-16-2016, 05:45 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).


calderon?

Spurs9
02-16-2016, 06:06 PM
:lol a cross between TSpence and Wojtek..
Always another twitter diva is always around the corner trying to fill the void of a TMZ twitard.

cjw
02-16-2016, 06:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Thunder try to cut some salaries to get closer to the luxury tax, even if it requires them to part with some minor assets (ones that won't impact their ability to compete this year).

They're currently $12.5 million over the luxury tax per Spotrac. As a repeater, they pay 2.5x on the first $5 million, 2.75x on the next $5 million, and 3.5x on the amount between $10 and $12.5 million = $35 million in total.

Moving Waiters would save them $16 million in tax plus his prorated salary. Singler, Novak, Collison would each save $12 to $14 million.


Given how bad the economy is in OKC, wouldn't be surprised to see that team penny pinch. Funny that they nickel and dimed Harden, and now that Kanter deal is going to cost them like $50 million this year given it pushed them over the tax.

We'll see how many of the expensive seat season tickets get renewed next year. They're lucky the out in their lease is after next season and looks at 85% of a threshold that includes this season. Four years from now though if things don't improve economically and Durant and/or Westbrook leave, watch out.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 06:23 PM
calderon?

Was thinking more like Nelson

TD 21
02-16-2016, 06:32 PM
calderon?

Word is Augustin.

I don't get this trade for the Magic. Harris is nothing special and he's having a down season, but he's still a young, starting combo forward, signed going forward amid a skyrocketing cap. Ilyasova is an older, slightly worse power forward and Jennings, was a low end starting point guard pre Achilles tear, isn't one at the moment, may never be again and is probably Knicks/Nets bound (where he can be the uncontested starter) in the off season. Sure, they'll open up more cap space, but most of the league will have it and what significant player is going to the Magic?

Substitute McCallum (to Heat, instead of Roberts) and Simmons, with a 2nd (to Grizzlies, instead of Hairston and their 2nd) and couldn't the Spurs have gotten Lee?

He probably wouldn't re-sign because he'd probably seek a bigger role elsewhere, but in the interim, he could soak up Ginobili's minutes and eventually become a quality fourth wing, who'd fit well with the rest of bench.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 06:40 PM
Substitute McCallum (to Heat, instead of Roberts) and Simmons, with a 2nd (to Grizzlies, instead of Hairston and their 2nd) and couldn't the Spurs have gotten Lee?

Not even close. You would need to sub Mills for Ray and Kyle for Jonathon to make the salaries work.

TD 21
02-16-2016, 06:47 PM
Not even close. You would need to sub Mills for Ray and Kyle for Jonathon to make the salaries work.

Yeah, Roberts makes more than I remembered and the gap between Hairston and Simmons is wider than I was thinking too.

I still think they need to be pursuing something along these lines, though I don't expect anything to come to fruition. I don't see how they could be comfortable with the fourth wing situation, especially given how difficult a match-up the Warriors are for Parker/Mills. It could be nice to have the option of playing Ginobili more at point guard, alongside with a shooting guard who can cross match.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 06:50 PM
calderon?

That ended when the dealt Jennings.

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 06:53 PM
Could mean his NBA days are over, tbh. How many games has he missed this season and last?

If he doesn't pass the physical then there won't be any trade but he never had surgery to deal with his aliments. Next season he will be in a contract year so he chose to have season ending surgery. I say take advantage of him next season then DON'T re-sign him b/c he will end up like Nene/Sideshow Bob.:lol

Go after Ibaka in 2017 since OKC has already invested in Adams/Anus Cancer.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 07:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/717751317/Frank_Isola_bigger.jpg Frank Isola Verified account ‏@FisolaNYDN (https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN)

Raptors and Clippers are both interested in Brooklyn's Thaddeus Young.

Robz4000
02-16-2016, 07:35 PM
Young on the Clippers should worry the hell outta the Dubs tbh. Him and Griffin in a small ball lineup against theirs :wow...

Emperor
02-16-2016, 07:59 PM
Clippers want Thaddeus Young? By all means my friend, i know a way to make it happen........

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm7czy9

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:13 PM
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r0drig0lac
02-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Frye for Clippers

ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:16 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)The Los Angeles Clippers are nearing agreement on a deal to acquire Orlando's Channing Frye, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:17 PM
699764463185096704


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loveforthegame
02-16-2016, 08:17 PM
Lance. :lol

ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:18 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Clippers would trade Lance Stephenson in a deal with Magic, but league sources say Clippers probing another deal elsewhere with Stephenson too.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:18 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Clippers could turn back to Orlando and complete Frye deal that would include Stephenson, CJ Wilcox and possibly a future 2nd rounder.

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:22 PM
699765677738094592

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ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:22 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Sources: For tonight, Clippers holding back on finalizing Frye deal with Orlando. Clippers plans to give Orlando final word on Wednesday.

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:23 PM
Sorry Ace :lol

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 08:25 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)The Los Angeles Clippers are nearing agreement on a deal to acquire Orlando's Channing Frye, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).



Frye is a decent get but the Clippers ain't shyt until they get a wingplayer ala OKC, Wes Johnson is the type of guy that will shrink in the postseason & Moute is unplayable.

ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:25 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Frye remains a significant target for several teams, including the Cleveland Cavaliers, sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

DPG21920
02-16-2016, 08:26 PM
Don't get Doc. Unloading Lance for Frye would be smart & can't see Lance netting anything better. Will be funny if another team swoops in for Frye now.

NASpurs
02-16-2016, 08:33 PM
I imagine Doc fires up the Trade Machine and messes around with it to see what gets approved. What a fucking joke.

tbdog
02-16-2016, 08:33 PM
Word is Augustin.

I don't get this trade for the Magic. Harris is nothing special and he's having a down season, but he's still a young, starting combo forward, signed going forward amid a skyrocketing cap. Ilyasova is an older, slightly worse power forward and Jennings, was a low end starting point guard pre Achilles tear, isn't one at the moment, may never be again and is probably Knicks/Nets bound (where he can be the uncontested starter) in the off season. Sure, they'll open up more cap space, but most of the league will have it and what significant player is going to the Magic?

Substitute McCallum (to Heat, instead of Roberts) and Simmons, with a 2nd (to Grizzlies, instead of Hairston and their 2nd) and couldn't the Spurs have gotten Lee?

He probably wouldn't re-sign because he'd probably seek a bigger role elsewhere, but in the interim, he could soak up Ginobili's minutes and eventually become a quality fourth wing, who'd fit well with the rest of bench.

Magic are just culling Harris. The team is better without him. They probably wanted a pick which is a loss. They will now look to trade Frye. Also look for CJ Watson to be on the block. If you want a big pg, he should be looked at. I am not sure how we could fit into his 5mil contract though.

Mr. Body
02-16-2016, 08:36 PM
Saw rumors that Oladipo might be available. I see no possible way to get him, but he's a Spurs-type player, needs to improve his shot.

YGWHI
02-16-2016, 08:36 PM
Stephenson's NBA career is disappearing before our eyes...

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:39 PM
Spurs! :lol


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ace3g
02-16-2016, 08:39 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Sources: If Frye deal to Clippers goes through on Wednesday, Stephenson would never play a game for Orlando. Magic will waive him.

timtonymanu
02-16-2016, 08:41 PM
Spurs! :lol


699769909765664768

ace, you slipping, man.

marinoman
02-16-2016, 08:42 PM
Batmanu and ace in a battle to inform spurs talk

TheGreatYacht
02-16-2016, 08:48 PM
Magic GM :lol
Brandon Jennings :lol
2016 Point Guard version of Kobe :lol
Returning off of an Achiles injury too :lol
Pay Lance his contract so he won't play for you, even though you traded for him :lol

BatManu20
02-16-2016, 08:55 PM
Batmanu and ace in a battle to inform spurs talk

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/915/6719ef70-0a3c-0133-45a9-0a2ca390b447.gif?

ace3g
02-16-2016, 09:05 PM
http://i2.wp.com/www.4ye.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/tumblr_m75b6eI12l1r0t68go2_r2_500.gif

tbdog
02-16-2016, 09:15 PM
Magic GM :lol
Brandon Jennings :lol
2016 Point Guard version of Kobe :lol
Returning off of an Achiles injury too :lol
Pay Lance his contract so he won't play for you, even though you traded for him :lol

Jennings is an expiring contract. They are just making cap room, obviously.

Russ
02-16-2016, 09:26 PM
699769909765664768

The Clippers are the graveyard for NBA acquisitions.

Mnky
02-16-2016, 09:34 PM
http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/915/6719ef70-0a3c-0133-45a9-0a2ca390b447.gif?

:lol

ace3g
02-16-2016, 09:36 PM
Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon)Mavs would have interest in Kevin Martin if he receives buyout, source says. They do not want to trade for him due to $7M owed next season.

Dverde
02-16-2016, 09:37 PM
Mavs going to trade for Frye just to mess with Doc.

TheGreatYacht
02-16-2016, 09:40 PM
Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon)Mavs would have interest in Kevin Martin if he receives buyout, source says. They do not want to trade for him due to $7M owed next season.


Would be an excellent Ferrari replacement... Spurs won't be interested though

Kawhitstorm
02-16-2016, 10:54 PM
Spurs! :lol


699769909765664768

He will most likely sign with the Pacers just like Josh Smith signed back with the Rockets. GM Doc::lol

cjw
02-16-2016, 11:48 PM
Would be an excellent Ferrari replacement... Spurs won't be interested though

Another guy who can't see the floor against GS. Next

TheDoctor
02-17-2016, 12:05 AM
BatManu and Ace, giving morning alarms and snooze buttons a run for their money.

RD2191
02-17-2016, 12:22 AM
Batmanu you my nigga and your threads have carried us this season tbh but Ace is the designated twitter social media guy imo.

sasaint
02-17-2016, 11:09 AM
Mavs going to trade for Frye just to mess with Doc.

:lol That would be too good to be true!

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 02:31 PM
Whats the latest tbh? Wheres tspense and the other TMZ sports crew to give us the scoop?

raybies
02-17-2016, 02:41 PM
Slow day.

Mel_13
02-17-2016, 02:54 PM
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spursistan
02-17-2016, 03:19 PM
700041035846676481

bitchslapped :lol..

Chinook
02-17-2016, 03:23 PM
700043343707811840

He looked all right in his time in NO. Kinda similar to Simmons, they were saying. I'd rather him be on a 10-day than on a new contract, as I don't know how much upside he has. Still like Ndoye if Bonner is getting cut (and don't like anyone else getting cut at all).

Mel_13
02-17-2016, 03:37 PM
He looked all right in his time in NO. Kinda similar to Simmons, they were saying. I'd rather him be on a 10-day than on a new contract, as I don't know how much upside he has. Still like Ndoye if Bonner is getting cut (and don't like anyone else getting cut at all).

Yeah. That calf injury is lingering.

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SAGirl
02-17-2016, 03:41 PM
I was going to ask who dejean Jones is.

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 03:49 PM
I have wondered about Bonner since the injury bc the comments were that the calf injuries for older men are hard to recover from and he's had those leg warmers all season on top of not playing a single minute outside garbage time which Butler, Ray and Boban have managed. He's really at this point a chemistry locker room guy. I am sure he helps others practice and keep the team morale up, but in term of him as a player, he could be done. If he's cut for someone who is not going to play or another garbage time body it doesn't make sense. I like the Ndoye idea bc even if he remains in th league the point of picking him up is retaining his rights.

Since I don't know dejean Jones, I am unsure about the whole thing. If he's just some Reggie Williams who is here for a few weeks it's meh.

Chinook
02-17-2016, 03:52 PM
I was going to ask who dejean Jones is.

Did you see the most recent Pelicans game? Because he was the guy who started for Evans during that game. 6-5 combo-guard. Decent shooter, but he hasn't shown a whole lot. Guess the market for guard call-ups is depressed. Lol Jimmer.

gambit1990
02-17-2016, 03:53 PM
still nothing? t minus 24 hours...

NASpurs
02-17-2016, 04:03 PM
700041035846676481

bitchslapped :lol..

:lol fucking hilarious

SpurPadre
02-17-2016, 04:34 PM
http://Chris Broussard Verified account ‏@Chris_Broussard Sac Kings have interest in Thabo Sefolosha, according to league source. He'd be much-needed defensive boost in perimeter

According to Broussard, the Kings are interested in Thabo Sefolosha. I would still love to get this guy

ace3g
02-17-2016, 04:48 PM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)The Cavaliers are showing strong interest in acquiring Pelicans forward Ryan Anderson, sources said.

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 05:03 PM
http://Chris Broussard Verified account ‏@Chris_Broussard Sac Kings have interest in Thabo Sefolosha, according to league source. He'd be much-needed defensive boost in perimeter

According to Broussard, the Kings are interested in Thabo Sefolosha. I would still love to get this guy
Yeah he could be the defender we could use against the dubs

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 05:09 PM
The Philadelphia 76ers have received several calls inquiring about the availability of their prized rookie Jahlil Okafor, according to a source with knowledge of the calls.

Leading up to the trade deadline, it is the job of [good] GM's to monitor the market and gather information, for both short-term and long-term usage. Dozens of inquires are made league-wide, but only a select few actually materialize into trades. Thus, it is not surprising that teams are doing their due-dilligance and inquiring about Okafor, who currently leads all rookies in points per game, especially considering the Sixers recent willingness to make trade deadline day deals.

K...
02-17-2016, 05:15 PM
So delly and Ryan Anderson. The all cheap shot backcourt.

Dancelot
02-17-2016, 05:34 PM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)The Cavaliers are showing strong interest in acquiring Pelicans forward Ryan Anderson, sources said.

Another 3 point shooting injury prone white dude, good.

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 05:36 PM
Can we trade Green for Reddick tbh?

BatManu20
02-17-2016, 05:36 PM
Cavs need more shooting. That's why they're so interested in Korver and Anderson. I bet they get one of them too.

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 06:00 PM
700041035846676481

bitchslapped :lol..

Hollinger is a bitch considering he has done little to fix the Grizzles since he took over the VP of Basketball Operations despite claiming to be an analytics nerd.

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 06:02 PM
I have wondered about Bonner since the injury bc the comments were that the calf injuries for older men are hard to recover from and he's had those leg warmers all season on top of not playing a single minute outside garbage time which Butler, Ray and Boban have managed. He's really at this point a chemistry locker room guy. I am sure he helps others practice and keep the team morale up, but in term of him as a player, he could be done. If he's cut for someone who is not going to play or another garbage time body it doesn't make sense.

I hope his bitch ass retires b/c he didn't warrant a roster spots whatsoever. The only good thing that might come out of it is that he's used as a trade bait.

cjw
02-17-2016, 06:08 PM
I hope his bitch ass retires b/c he didn't warrant a roster spots whatsoever. The only good thing that might come out of it is that he's used as a trade bait.

More likely trade than release to make salaries match IF before the deadline. If it's a buyout, it likely takes place after the deadline and they'd have to eat his salary. They're in the luxury tax, so remember every dollar paid is equal to $2.5 - every dollar helps.

No real hope of getting under the tax either. That damn Jimmer guarantee...

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 06:27 PM
More likely trade than release to make salaries match IF before the deadline. If it's a buyout, it likely takes place after the deadline and they'd have to eat his salary. They're in the luxury tax, so remember every dollar paid is equal to $2.5 - every dollar helps.

No real hope of getting under the tax either. That damn Jimmer guarantee...

The thing is that they could trade him & he could retire after the transaction is completed thus can stay with his family in SA.

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 06:42 PM
Did you see the most recent Pelicans game? Because he was the guy who started for Evans during that game. 6-5 combo-guard. Decent shooter, but he hasn't shown a whole lot. Guess the market for guard call-ups is depressed. Lol Jimmer. oh I think I remember him now, rookie. Was he a dleague call up? He was very aggressive that game although nothing stood out except one drive he missed. I'd be ok with him since Bonner is not helping. Although it's nor really like he's a need. I mean if Ray can barely get time and has gone down to the dleague, I am thinking maybe anyone we pick up is maybe with sights on next season too, which is why I like your Ndoye idea, but honestly I have not kept track of him.

spursistan
02-17-2016, 07:00 PM
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Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:06 PM
700106726922543109

Replacing Love with a poorman's Love:lmao

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 07:08 PM
Wow Ryan Anderson for Kevin Love???? Wow.

Chinook
02-17-2016, 07:10 PM
Replacing Love with a poorman's Love:lmao

Love is a poor man's Anderson.

ace3g
02-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say Cavaliers have made an offer featuring Anderson Varejao for Channing Frye in an attempt to pre-empt Clippers' deal for Frye

Chinook
02-17-2016, 07:15 PM
oh I think I remember him now, rookie. Was he a dleague call up? He was very aggressive that game although nothing stood out except one drive he missed. I'd be ok with him since Bonner is not helping. Although it's nor really like he's a need. I mean if Ray can barely get time and has gone down to the dleague, I am thinking maybe anyone we pick up is maybe with sights on next season too, which is why I like your Ndoye idea, but honestly I have not kept track of him.

Yeah, that was him. He made a three after Green left him open. That's all I can remember. I don't see picking him up as a need at all unless he's very good defensively.

rasuo214
02-17-2016, 07:15 PM
Pretty sure I made a post stating that Ryan Anderson would be a better fit than Kevin Love for the Cavs. Maybe Lebron reads Spurstalk...:lol

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:15 PM
Love is a poor man's Anderson.

Anderson can play the spot up shooter role better than Love otherwise he's a terrible defender, mediocre rebounder for a PF & has never been accused of being a playmaker.:lol

Chinook
02-17-2016, 07:16 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say Cavaliers have made an offer featuring Anderson Varejao for Channing Frye in an attempt to pre-empt Clippers' deal for Frye



That's not a bad deal. Anderson could actually help the Magic this year. Lance would be waived, per reports. I actually don't think Varejao would be a horrible pickup for LAC, either, but they'd need to add some value.

Chinook
02-17-2016, 07:18 PM
Anderson can play the spot up shooter role better than Love otherwise he's a terrible defender, mediocre rebounder for a PF & has never been accused of being a playmaker.:lol

The Cavs don't need Anderson to do all that other shit. That's why Love is sucking over there relative to the expectations.

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:18 PM
Wow Ryan Anderson for Kevin Love???? Wow.

There is going to be more going to the Cavs than just Ryan Anderson. Probably Avery Bradley to the Cavs while the Boston also sends a 1st rd pick to the Pelicans along w/ David Lee. Pelicans might dump Asik on the Celtics too: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jl3hrq4

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:19 PM
The Cavs don't need Anderson to do all that other shit. That's why Love is sucking over there relative to the expectations.

Love is sucking w/ the Cavs for the same reason Pau sucked under D'Antoni but he will be back to being a 20/10 all-star w/ the Celtics.

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:26 PM
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Chinook
02-17-2016, 07:27 PM
Love is sucking w/ the Cavs for the same reason Pau sucked under D'Antoni but he will be back to being a 20/10 all-star w/ the Celtics.

Love is sucking with the Cavs because he's not as good as Bosh (was :depressed). He can't be a legit center, so he's just a stop-up guy, and he's not even that good as spotting up. You're right that he'd be really good on the Celtics though.

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 07:29 PM
Anderson can play the spot up shooter role better than Love otherwise he's a terrible defender, mediocre rebounder for a PF & has never been accused of being a playmaker.:lol
Probably fits their system better. Although I don't follow the Cavs they make a lot of noise. There were issues of fit between him and Irving. I would not be surprised if it was even love seeking a move. Definitely Ryan can shoot and will get all the open shots he could wish for. No word yet on who NO is getting?

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:30 PM
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Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:31 PM
Love is sucking with the Cavs because he's not as good as Bosh (was :depressed). He can't be a legit center, so he's just a stop-up guy, and he's not even that good as spotting up. You're right that he'd be really good on the Celtics though.

D'Antoni tried to use Pau as a spot up shooter:lmao

raybies
02-17-2016, 07:46 PM
All I can think about with the Bryce interest is that we get as many different players (wings) to throw at the warriors. We got solid depth in the frontcourt, but an extra player on the wing couldn't hurt. They had him guarding kawhi and ask I remember was that he was a gritty defender. Whether he's a solid or not, I'm not sure.

BatManu20
02-17-2016, 07:50 PM
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Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 07:53 PM
All I can think about with the Bryce interest is that we get as many different players (wings) to throw at the warriors. We got solid depth in the frontcourt, but an extra player on the wing couldn't hurt. They had him guarding kawhi and ask I remember was that he was a gritty defender. Whether he's a solid or not, I'm not sure.

Expecting Bryce to be a factor in the playoffs, against the Worriers no less:lmao

TheGreatYacht
02-17-2016, 08:00 PM
Tony Wrotten still a free agent? I'd replace McCallum for him

Kawhitstorm
02-17-2016, 08:11 PM
Tony Wrotten still a free agent? I'd replace McCallum for him

The guy has been trash after he lost his explosiveness following the ACL injury, basically poorman's post-injury D-Rose.:lol

TheGreatYacht
02-17-2016, 08:15 PM
The guy has been trash after he lost his explosiveness following the ACL injury, basically poorman's post-injury D-Rose.:lol
Ray got busted up by D'Bust twice tho... :lol

raybies
02-17-2016, 08:17 PM
Expecting Bryce to be a factor in the playoffs, against the Worriers no less:lmao

Thinking I expect him to be a factor :lmao
Just said having another body at wing couldn't hurt. And 2 years ago a man by the name of Cory Joseph dunked on a man named Serge ibaka in a blowout and some think that was a turning moment in the series. Not saying Bryce could do that but like I said another body to give a man different looks couldn't hurt.

ace3g
02-17-2016, 08:39 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Link to the full @espn (https://twitter.com/espn/) latest on ongoing discussions between Houston and Utah toward a potential Ty Lawson trade --> espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id… (https://t.co/O1DFbBnZuL)

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 08:41 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Link to the full @espn (https://twitter.com/espn/) latest on ongoing discussions between Houston and Utah toward a potential Ty Lawson trade --> espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id… (https://t.co/O1DFbBnZuL)

Does anyone think any team gets better from this? Except maybe shedding salary for the Jazz getting Ty Lawson ND they didn't plan to extend Trey Burke? Both guys are really meh.

Maddog
02-17-2016, 08:45 PM
It'll be harder for him to drink there
Might turn out good for Utah

raybies
02-17-2016, 08:46 PM
I really like that deal for Anderson for Love etc. I wonder if they get Boston's lottery pick too. That would be robbery. Anderson can do what love can do offensively and they have Thompson for the boards. Only thing about Anderson is that salary for next year.

raybies
02-17-2016, 08:51 PM
The Orlando Magic have notified Shabazz Napier and Andrew Nicholson they will likely be traded, sources tell Basketball Insiders.

ace3g
02-17-2016, 08:53 PM
Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball
(https://twitter.com/HPbasketball)Bulls want a rotation player and a 1st for Taj, per @KBergCBS (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/). Denver ALMOST makes sense. cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken… (https://t.co/vqZ6x6mjU3)

BatManu20
02-17-2016, 08:57 PM
Completely random, but I'll leave this here.

700134561825628163

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 09:08 PM
The Orlando Magic have notified Shabazz Napier and Andrew Nicholson they will likely be traded, sources tell Basketball Insiders.

I didnt even know napier was on the magic :lol

Robz4000
02-17-2016, 09:11 PM
Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball
(https://twitter.com/HPbasketball)Bulls want a rotation player and a 1st for Taj, per @KBergCBS (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/). Denver ALMOST makes sense. cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken… (https://t.co/vqZ6x6mjU3)



:lmao

spursistan
02-17-2016, 09:15 PM
Slow news/trade day...Expecting more fireworks by Thursday noon..my guess 3 of Horford/Love/Whiteside/Anderson will get moved..The market for Dwight Howard looks pretty limited..

spursistan
02-17-2016, 09:19 PM
700126558586060800

spursistan
02-17-2016, 09:20 PM
700127604272197632

DPG21920
02-17-2016, 09:21 PM
You would think Terrence Jones and Markieff Morris would be locks to be traded. I would also think the Mavs are desperate to add some talent as well. Maybe it's one of the above

BatManu20
02-17-2016, 09:24 PM
700143160605937664

TheDoctor
02-17-2016, 09:24 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Mobile%20Uploads/image_2.jpeg

Chinook
02-17-2016, 09:27 PM
^Not that great of a poster

Dancelot
02-17-2016, 09:29 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Mobile%20Uploads/image_2.jpeg
Nice, this has become an annual thing for the spurs. Wondering who they'll cut/trade?

ace3g
02-17-2016, 09:29 PM
^ David Pick doesn't have a verified account

Dancelot
02-17-2016, 09:30 PM
^ David Pick doesn't have a verified account
Gotcha

Chinook
02-17-2016, 09:31 PM
^ David Pick doesn't have a verified account

You can tell when it's a fake tweet by the image. The fakes are pixilated.

AFMadison
02-17-2016, 09:39 PM
The guy has been trash after he lost his explosiveness following the ACL injury, basically poorman's post-injury D-Rose.:lol
Says the guy who considers Courtney Lee a Manu replacement :lol

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 09:47 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Mobile%20Uploads/image_2.jpeg
Correct me if I am wrong... Am I right that the midseason acquisition seems to be Bertans coming over for the remainder of this season?

Spurs9
02-17-2016, 09:47 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Mobile%20Uploads/image_2.jpeg
Really poor ps tbh

BatManu20
02-17-2016, 09:48 PM
700149250043215872

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 09:49 PM
David Pick hack tripping me?

look_at_g_shred
02-17-2016, 10:00 PM
Why are there teams blowing their load over Mclemore? Am I missing something?

SAGirl
02-17-2016, 10:03 PM
Why are there teams blowing their load over Mclemore? Am I missing something?
The only thing I found out about him somewhere is that he's the one who wanted to be moved. He's playing less than last season or something of that nature.

All Mighty Janitor
02-17-2016, 10:17 PM
Does anyone think any team gets better from this? Except maybe shedding salary for the Jazz getting Ty Lawson ND they didn't plan to extend Trey Burke? Both guys are really meh.
I think it does help both teams. Lawson isn't working out in Huston but could help the Jazz a whole lot. He could take pressure off Hayward to create so much and greatly improve their offence (if he returns to Denver form). He could then move to the bench as a sixth man when Exum comes back. I doubt the Jazz give up much for him, but what ever production the Rockets get back should be better than what they had in Lawson.

All Mighty Janitor
02-17-2016, 10:20 PM
Why are there teams blowing their load over Mclemore? Am I missing something?
You might underestimating how bad Sacramento's organization is. McLemore could be a gem but nobody would know it cuz Kingz.

ace3g
02-17-2016, 10:22 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)My latest Trade Deadline Buzz on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/). Pau Gasol's future. yhoo.it/1QK6wST (https://t.co/VL22ztKSQh)

ace3g
02-17-2016, 10:24 PM
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Though he's not the GM, Danny Green expects uneventful trade deadline for Spurs expressnews.com/sports/spurs/a… (https://t.co/ZD9CpXSBzx) via @mySA (https://twitter.com/mySA/)

loveforthegame
02-17-2016, 10:29 PM
Why are there teams blowing their load over Mclemore? Am I missing something?

Athletic, improved shooting, and can lock in defensively when he wants.

Another player screwed by the dysfunction of the Kings organization.

Wu36
02-17-2016, 10:51 PM
Wasn't he projected top 3 and slid to Sac at 7? Sounds just as much his fault as the Kings that his career hasn't panned out.

cjw
02-17-2016, 10:51 PM
Athletic, improved shooting, and can lock in defensively when he wants.

Another player screwed by the dysfunction of the Kings organization.

They blew it with two straight lottery picks who played the same position (McLemore and Stauskas). Last several drafts all picking in the top 10:

2015 Cauley-Stein (6th) - jury out, but could have cashed in for king's ransom from Boston (wanted Winslow)
2014 Stauskas (8th) - already dumped with a 1st and a pick swap
2013 McLemore (7th) - KCP, McCollom, Greek Freak, etc. all sitting there
2012 T Robinson (5th) - ahead of Lillard, Barnes, Drummond. Gone before season over for no return
2011 Fredette (10th) after swapping out of Biyambo at 6th - Klay and Kawhi on the board
2010 Cousins (4th)
2009 Tyreke (4th) - Curry, Derozan and others available

They arguably did just as well with their second rounders - Whiteside and Isiah Thomas, but also have nothing to show for those guys. What a joke of a franchise.

raybies
02-17-2016, 11:11 PM
They blew it with two straight lottery picks who played the same position (McLemore and Stauskas). Last several drafts all picking in the top 10:

2015 Cauley-Stein (6th) - jury out, but could have cashed in for king's ransom from Boston (wanted Winslow)
2014 Stauskas (8th) - already dumped with a 1st and a pick swap
2013 McLemore (7th) - KCP, McCollom, Greek Freak, etc. all sitting there
2012 T Robinson (5th) - ahead of Lillard, Barnes, Drummond. Gone before season over for no return
2011 Fredette (10th) after swapping out of Biyambo at 6th - Klay and Kawhi on the board
2010 Cousins (4th)
2009 Tyreke (4th) - Curry, Derozan and others available

They arguably did just as well with their second rounders - Whiteside and Isiah Thomas, but also have nothing to show for those guys. What a joke of a franchise.

It's sad really. Especially for the fans. Have that many quality picks and deal them away.

ace3g
02-17-2016, 11:31 PM
Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixYS
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS)Sources: Kings aggressively pursuing Bulls Pau Gasol, offering Koufos, McLemore, sweetener (w/@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/)) yhoo.it/1QK6wST (https://t.co/mwfbSsPTER)


Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixYS
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS)Kings are dogged in the pursuit of a postseason spot. Ownership pushing hard to cobble together a playoff team before move to new building.

All Mighty Janitor
02-18-2016, 12:05 AM
Wasn't he projected top 3 and slid to Sac at 7? Sounds just as much his fault as the Kings that his career hasn't panned out.
Some of it seems to be his fault as good young players can break through rotations and show their worth. For example, he was touted as a shooter and has shown some of that but is very inconsistent. But there's something about being in Sac town that make players seem 1 or 2 levels lower than they really are. That could be due to the changes in coaches, front office personnel, player personnel; any number of things mostly out of his control. Sometimes the fit just isn't right.

TheDoctor
02-18-2016, 12:15 AM
Really poor ps tbh

That was the intention mate :lol

sasaint
02-18-2016, 12:46 AM
SBNation reports that the Bulls are discussing Pau trade with the Kings... :lmao

I hope Pau and wife enjoy the culture in Sactown! :lmao

MI21
02-18-2016, 12:57 AM
They blew it with two straight lottery picks who played the same position (McLemore and Stauskas). Last several drafts all picking in the top 10:

2015 Cauley-Stein (6th) - jury out, but could have cashed in for king's ransom from Boston (wanted Winslow)
2014 Stauskas (8th) - already dumped with a 1st and a pick swap
2013 McLemore (7th) - KCP, McCollom, Greek Freak, etc. all sitting there
2012 T Robinson (5th) - ahead of Lillard, Barnes, Drummond. Gone before season over for no return
2011 Fredette (10th) after swapping out of Biyambo at 6th - Klay and Kawhi on the board
2010 Cousins (4th)
2009 Tyreke (4th) - Curry, Derozan and others available

They arguably did just as well with their second rounders - Whiteside and Isiah Thomas, but also have nothing to show for those guys. What a joke of a franchise.

:lol

Even the guys they picked that produced have pretty bad issues, Evan's produced empty stats and despite his skills, DMC isn't exactly the smartest guy in the NBA.

kobyz
02-18-2016, 01:06 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

Kawhitstorm
02-18-2016, 01:07 AM
Says the guy who considers Courtney Lee a Manu replacement :lol

Big Dummy, you aren't going to find better players than Lee for the amount of money the Spurs will have after signing someone like Noah to fill the void left by Tim. I NEVER claimed Lee/Mayo could replace Manu but rather I just stated they could play the 6th man role in Manu's spot as a backup SG.

YGWHI
02-18-2016, 01:13 AM
I hope Pau and wife enjoy the culture in Sactown! :lmao


But but Sacramento Philharmonic/Opera isn't that bad...:cry :lol

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2016, 01:18 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

:lmao one of the biggest cancers and losers in recent NBA history..not surprised that you like him, though..

BatManu20
02-18-2016, 01:22 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

Trollol

Kawhitstorm
02-18-2016, 01:24 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

Midrange Galore!:wow

kobyz
02-18-2016, 02:32 AM
:lmao one of the biggest cancers and losers in recent NBA history..not surprised that you like him, though.. not surprising you against coming from worst poster like you, (Curry and Warriors still pathetic?)... Listen Are you want a chance for a title or not? right now Spurs not a threat for the Warriors, with the team that you have, With Danny making you almost 4 against 5 on offense sometimes, with Kawhi somewhat vannila as being the guy, with gimmicky bench of nostalgia players like Manu and Boris leading it, Warriors joke on this like the last game... You need to take the risk on player like Gay and hope he buy in to the system and bring the fire power we need as a sixth man and special matchup player as opposite of being a main guy in his other teams...

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-18-2016, 02:35 AM
^ I like this retard fight. Only need the drunk dude to chime in.

Blizzardwizard
02-18-2016, 10:07 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

Pretty good troll effort there, caught a lot of people out.

apalisoc_9
02-18-2016, 10:13 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

:lmao

Leetonidas
02-18-2016, 10:57 AM
A dream trade for the Spurs will be: Diaw, Slomo, Boban, Simmons, 3 first round picks for Rudy Gay... We desperately need player like Gay, as a real sixth man player for us, as another fire power and a small ball option against the Dubs..

you're an idiot

Ice009
02-18-2016, 11:19 AM
What time does the trade deadline end?

look_at_g_shred
02-18-2016, 11:20 AM
When does the trade deadline end?
2 CST

ace3g
02-18-2016, 11:24 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)Several teams with interest in trading for Brooklyn's Thaddeus Young already trying to reach Sean Marks to see where Nets stand on him.

cjw
02-18-2016, 11:30 AM
not surprising you against coming from worst poster like you, (Curry and Warriors still pathetic?)... Listen Are you want a chance for a title or not? right now Spurs not a threat for the Warriors, with the team that you have, With Danny making you almost 4 against 5 on offense sometimes, with Kawhi somewhat vannila as being the guy, with gimmicky bench of nostalgia players like Manu and Boris leading it, Warriors joke on this like the last game... You need to take the risk on player like Gay and hope he buy in to the system and bring the fire power we need as a sixth man and special matchup player as opposite of being a main guy in his other teams...

I don't think people are ripping on you for the thought of bringing in Gay (could be another RJ, or he could flourish in the system ... who knows?)

Issue is (1) bringing him in mid-season to a team that's on mid-to-high 60 win pace, (2) you offering up two rotation guys in Diaw and Simmons, plus two decent prospects for him and THEN thinking you need to include THREE first round picks for it. That alone makes me think you're trolling, but knowing the kind of things you post, you may well be serious.

Either way, Diaw + Anderson + Butler + Bonner would get it done for Sacto. No need to trade Simmons. Gay is about to turn 30 and Diaw/Anderson have a lot more value in their current contracts than he does. Nobody in their right mind would give up more value than a non-lottery first rounder for Gay, let alone three.

SpursFan86
02-18-2016, 11:31 AM
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TheGreatYacht
02-18-2016, 11:31 AM
Thad Young shitted on Raymond Green... I'll take him


http://youtu.be/f--EEqBxngE