2016 NBA Trade Deadline

[SpursFan86]

700356861237862402

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

700356861237862402

Nets can get one of their 1st round pick back for Young.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)The Miami Heat are trading forward Jarnell Stokes to the New Orleans Pelicans, league source tells The Vertical.

[Texas_Ranger]

just 3 more hours...

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say that the Pistons have offered center Joel Anthony to the Houston Rockets in exchange for PF Donatas Motiejunas

[BatManu20]

700365349410238464

[Chinook]

Pelicans are actually making smart trades right now. I have no idea why Detroit thinks Houston would accept that trade.

[BatManu20]

700366439308328960

[BatManu20]

700366518803161088

[AFMadison]

Big Dummy, you aren't going to find better players than Lee for the amount of money the Spurs will have after signing someone like Noah to fill the void left by Tim. I NEVER claimed Lee/Mayo could replace Manu but rather I just stated they could play the 6th man role in Manu's spot as a backup SG.
Smh. Thank god you're not running this organization

[SpursFan86]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN sources say that the Pistons have offered center Joel Anthony to the Houston Rockets in exchange for PF Donatas Motiejunas


Surely there has to be something else involved...right? If I were Morey I'd feel insulted as shit if someone offered me that trade straight up :lol

[BatManu20]

700366419729506308

[Leetonidas]

Surely there has to be something else involved...right? If I were Morey I'd feel insulted as shit if someone offered me that trade straight up :lol

hey man, thats NBA champion Joel Anthony :lol

[elemento]

Morey getting low-balled like there's no tomorrow. I'm loving it :lol

Al Jefferson + Hawes for Howard
Joel Anthony for Motiejunas

:lmao

[BatManu20]

700343060610293760

[baseline bum]

Motiejunas to Detroit

700369396770979841

[szkorhetz]

Morey getting low-balled like there's no tomorrow. I'm loving it :lol

Al Jefferson + Hawes for Howard
Joel Anthony for Motiejunas

:lmao
There is literally no tomorrow. :D

[elemento]

Motiejunas is truly underrated. I think Morey sold him low here. He is a great post player and has great passing skills.

SVG is putting a good team on the table when he had almost nothing to start with.

[jyra]

700371006477697024

That's seems too much for a guy with injury problems. I would have expected the pick to be at least lottery protected. Pretty good return for Houston then.

[Chinook]

Motiejunas is truly underrated. I think Morey sold him low here. He is a great post player and has great passing skills.

SVG is putting a good team on the table when he had almost nothing to start with.

And he has still yet to give up a first-rounder. It's actually pretty amazing.

EDIT: Nevermind. Still amazing.

[BatManu20]

700370333140914176

[loveforthegame]

Sheesh. What a deal for the Pistons.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Seems like Pistons have given up on Anderson even for the summer. Motiejunas is a good player.

[SpursFan86]

I'm not so sure that's such a great deal. Guess it depends on whether his back holds up + how much he gets this summer as a RFA.

[SpurPadre]

Watch out for Detroit in the East. They can make some noise there in the playoffs.

[NASpurs]

Wow what a deal for the Pistons, I really like Motiejunas although injury prone.

[SpursFan86]

700372108036206592

Frye is a good player...not sure I want him going to Cleveland. Although if we make it through GS/OKC, I don't think Frye will be the deciding factor in a series vs. Cleveland :lol

[elemento]

And he has still yet to give up a first-rounder. It's actually pretty amazing.

EDIT: Nevermind. Still amazing.

The protection is little too light to my taste, but I think SVG is banking on making the playoffs this season.

[BatManu20]

Clutchfans melting down bc of the trade :lol

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=272661

[Kawhitstorm]

Smh. Thank god you're not running this organization

Thank God AFBitchson is running the organization.

[Kawhitstorm]

700366419729506308

Randy Foye is a scrub in the Gary Neal mold:lol

[SpursFan86]

700374480103694336

[Kawhitstorm]

Motiejunas is truly underrated. I think Morey sold him low here. He is a great post player and has great passing skills.

SVG is putting a good team on the table when he had almost nothing to start with.

It all came down to the fact they didn't want to pay him & the fact he is injury prone made him a hard sell as a RFA so they dumped for a 1st rd pick.

[SpursFan86]

700375294981599232

[elemento]

Looks like Frye ends up in Cleveland and Varejao goes to POR smh

Frye is great fit in CLE, i hate it.

[BatManu20]

700375438108061698

[TheDoctor]

700375438108061698

[Kawhitstorm]

700375294981599232

Dion Butters/Foye playing together:lmao

[timtonymanu]

here we go!

[Robz4000]

Fucking OKC getting Foye? Welp, that sucks...

[BatManu20]

700375983996715008

[SpursFan86]

Are y'all serious? Foye sucks :lol I'm glad OKC is getting him.

If Cleveland just got Frye for nothing, that'll be kinda shitty.

[elemento]

It all came down to the fact they didn't want to pay him & the fact he is injury prone made him a hard sell as a RFA so they dumped for a 1st rd pick.

They probably had concerns about his back too, even though he played 71 games last season. I'm not sure that they wanna pay Jones too and Jones has made it clear that he wants 15m/year. Who's going to be Houston's PF in the future?

We dumped Splitter to get LMA. I wonder what's their plan going forward.

[Kawhitstorm]

700374480103694336

Blazers must have gotten the Cavs 1st rd pick to swallow Sideshow's contract.

[BatManu20]

700376286921887744

[Kawhitstorm]

Are y'all serious? Foye sucks :lol I'm glad OKC is getting him.

If Cleveland just got Frye for nothing, that'll be kinda shitty.

Blazers aren't eating Sideshow's contract for nothing ala Tiago otherwise their GM should immediately resign.:lol

[BatManu20]

700376522960588800

[timtonymanu]

Fucking OKC getting Foye? Welp, that sucks...

Meh, still doesn't fix their awful defense and he's on the decline but Frye to Cleveland though :vomit:

[SpursFan86]

700376243632377856

Damn, only a 2nd rounder too

[timtonymanu]

Portland loves their fragile bigs.

[Robz4000]

Are y'all serious? Foye sucks :lol I'm glad OKC is getting him.

If Cleveland just got Frye for nothing, that'll be kinda shitty.

They need 3-point shooting from the wing position and Foye has torched the Spurs several times recently while in Denver. He was awful for the Clips in the playoffs back in 2012, but playing for OKC and off the attention that Durant and Westbrook get could really open things up for him.

[Kawhitstorm]

700376243632377856

Damn, only a 2nd rounder too

The Magic would have dumped Frye's contract for nothing in return ala Tiago; it's the Blazers that got the worst end of the deal. Makes no fuckin' sense at all considering the Blazers training staff's history.:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Surprising, isn't Varejao's contract almost fully guaranteed for next season too? Do Portland think they could actually play him?

[BatManu20]

700378236035997696

[Kawhitstorm]

Portland loves their fragile bigs.

I won't be surprised if they sign Oden next season.:lol

[BatManu20]

700378420002197504

[Kawhitstorm]

700378236035997696

The Jazz needed a starting point guard......Shelvin Mack?:rolleyes

[Robz4000]

Meh, still doesn't fix their awful defense and he's on the decline but Frye to Cleveland though :vomit:

Unless Love is jettison'd for better depth and they take RJ out back and shoot him, it's a lateral move. Frye can't share the floor with Love and can't play defense. Also helps Diaw or West can stick with him on the perimeter.

[gambit1990]

three more hours folks...

[elemento]

Yeah I don't get this for POR

Are they really banking on Varejao fully healthy next season ? I mean, he is the most injury prone Brazilian player and that says A LOT :lol

[timtonymanu]

three more hours folks...

2

[BatManu20]

Magic are clearing ton of cap space, which I think is a good move, but not sure that they're going to lure a top-tier FA there.. Still the right move imo, just thinking out loud.

[sasaint]

The Magic would have dumped Frye's contract for nothing in return ala Tiago; it's the Blazers that got the worst end of the deal. Makes no fuckin' sense at all considering the Blazers training staff's history.:lol

I have been very impressed with the moves Portland has made in recovering from the loss of LMA - that is, until this deal. A real head-scratcher unless it is prelim to another move.

[TheDoctor]

Wow what a deal for the Pistons, I really like Motiejunas although injury prone.

IMO that was a killer deal for HOU. This year they won't be winning anyway.

HOU gets:
1st TOP 8 protected (then TOP-10 protected the next 2 years)
Joel Anthony

DET gets:
DMo Splitter
Marcus Thornton

[gambit1990]

i too like what i've seen from motiejunas.

glad he at least doesn't have to play with that shit team anymore.

[SAGirl]

Well Detroit got better. I really like that for the East. After Chi and Alt almost imploding, Miami with the bad Bosh news, MIl going south this season, and Ind in experiment mode, the East needed some good teams to make the conference more interesting. We still have to see Boston... Did they end up with Love or not?

Only thing for Detroit is, let's hope DMo doesn't turn into Tiago for them.

[BatManu20]

700378051591274496

[HarlemHeat37]

Detroit didn't really get significantly better, tbh..they might improve if it works out, but Montejunas has been pretty terrible, this year..

He went from a long-term asset for the Rockets to trade-able in less than a year, which probably speaks on the severity of his back injury..

I don't mind the gamble for the Pistons, but I like the move for Houston..

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Frye always seems to be able to drop threes on our heads. Seems like he manages some of his better performances against the Spurs. Not sure I like the idea of him going to Cleveland.

[SpursFan86]

Frye always seems to be able to drop threes on our heads. Seems like he manages some of his better performances against the Spurs. Not sure I like the idea of him going to Cleveland.

Just shitty that they gave up nothing for him. Varejao/Cunningham are irrelevant + a 2nd round pick in the 50s is nothing. Being able to turn those things into a legitimately solid role player like Frye is definitely a win.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

IMO that was a killer deal for HOU. This year they won't be winning anyway.

HOU gets:
1st TOP 8 protected (then TOP-10 protected the next 2 years)
Joel Anthony

DET gets:
DMo Splitter
Marcus Thornton

Great Deal for Houston. Looks like they want to get young guys to build around Harden after having a player power struggle w/ Howard.

It is also a great deal for the Piston. A pretty good Stretch PF to play along side Drummond.

[elemento]

Sounds like POR is getting a 1st and a 2nd from CLE, so that makes more sense.

[SpursFan86]

Sounds like POR is getting a 1st and a 2nd from CLE, so that makes more sense.

Source? Not that I don't believe you, just curious 'cause I haven't seen anything about that on my end. Definitely makes more sense though - no way Portland just takes on Varejao for nothing.

[gambit1990]

After Chi and Alt almost imploding, Miami with the bad Bosh news, MIl going south this season, and Ind in experiment mode
damn, all that hadn't even registered to me. the cavs have the eastern conference made...

if the spurs played in the east we'd be able to rest players during the early rounds of the playoffs tbh.

[spursistan]

700373716342018048

3 years later Morey can't find any takers for Dwert..what a fall!!

[Kawhitstorm]

Just shitty that they gave up nothing for him. Varejao/Cunningham are irrelevant + a 2nd round pick in the 50s is nothing. Being able to turn those things into a legitimately solid role player like Frye is definitely a win.

Nobody wanted Frye's contract, they were willing to dump him like Tiago during the summer but no takers.:lol

[BatManu20]

700382097471578116

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Makes more sense for Portland, but still, is a 2018 1st round pick worth $10+ mil?

[HarlemHeat37]

Dwight to Boston would be the worst off-court fit that I could think of, tbh:lol..the fans would turn on him immediately..

[Kawhitstorm]

Magic are clearing ton of cap space, which I think is a good move, but not sure that they're going to lure a top-tier FA there.. Still the right move imo, just thinking out loud.

All the Magic need is a defensive minded center & Ezeli/Whiteside will be available this summer.

Center
Vuc/Gordon(small ball PF)
Hezonja/Gordon(defensive stopper)
Dipo/Fournier(if they are willing to pay him)
Payton

They could draft an offensive minded PG & they will be set.

[gambit1990]

atl needs to makes moves.

[Spurs9]

NBA tv has a trade deadline special at 1PM today, probably have some stuff go down during the show.

[elemento]

Source? Not that I don't believe you, just curious 'cause I haven't seen anything about that on my end. Definitely makes more sense though - no way Portland just takes on Varejao for nothing.

700380113465167872

[SpursFan86]

700380366717243392

[Mel_13]

Makes more sense for Portland, but still, is a 2018 1st round pick worth $10+ mil?

They were well below the cap floor this year and are way below the cap next year even with the 9.3M Andy is guaranteed.

[BatManu20]

Sounds like POR is getting a 1st and a 2nd from CLE, so that makes more sense.

So POR is getting the Cavs 1st Rounder in 2017? Cause PHX already owns their 2016 1st round pick.

[timtonymanu]

It took 12 seasons, but Varejao is now no longer a Cavalier.

[Kawhitstorm]

Great Deal for Houston. Looks like they want to get young guys to build around Harden after having a player power struggle w/ Howard.

It is also a great deal for the Piston. A pretty good Stretch PF to play along side Drummond.

The Pistons are probably going to be picking in the late teens or so in a weak draft.:lol

[elemento]

So POR is getting the Cavs 1st Rounder in 2017? Cause PHX already owns their 2016 1st round pick.

2018 probably

[Chinook]

Makes more sense for Portland, but still, is a 2018 1st round pick worth $10+ mil?


They were well below the cap floor this year and are way below the cap next year even with the 9.3M Andy is guaranteed.

Essentially that means that Portland actually just made $6-plus Million off this trade, rather than spending money. Had they stayed under the floor, they would have had to split the difference with their players. Now, Anderson's cap figure counts even though they didn't actually give him that much money.

[Chinook]

It took 12 seasons, but Varejao is now no longer a Cavalier.

Yeah. So with that and Nelson being moved last year, it's just Kobe, Dirk, Wade, Haslem and the Big Three I believe for guys who are still with the team that first signed them more than a decade earlier.

[ace3g]

Paul Coro @paulcoro
(https://twitter.com/paulcoro)P.J. Tucker is among the Suns' better assets but a source said the Suns have told him that he will not be traded before today's deadline.

[spursistan]

700380646271799296

Horford has Florida roots and said he want play in market with big Dominican/Latino community ..

[Mel_13]

Essentially that means that Portland actually just made $6-plus Million off this trade, rather than spending money. Had they stayed under the floor, they would have had to split the difference with their players. Now, Anderson's cap figure counts even though they didn't actually give him that much money.

Yep. Philly has played that sort of game. The Javale McGee acquisition, for example.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Essentially that means that Portland actually just made $6-plus Million off this trade, rather than spending money. Had they stayed under the floor, they would have had to split the difference with their players. Now, Anderson's cap figure counts even though they didn't actually give him that much money.

For this season yeah. ( though Blazers players probably dislike this trade lol ) But how about Varejao's next season salary, isn't it almost guaranteed?

[Mel_13]

For this season yeah. ( though Blazers players probably dislike this trade lol ) But how about Varejao's next season salary, isn't it almost guaranteed?

Yeah, but no reason to believe that they'll come anywhere near a 92M cap.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/POR.html?lid=standings_payroll

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yeah, but no reason to believe that they'll come anywhere near a 92M cap.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/POR.html?lid=standings_payroll

True. A lot of teams will have problems with the salary floor next season.

[Chinook]

Yep. Philly has played that sort of game. The Javale McGee acquisition, for example.

Yeah, and the Granger trade the year before which brought all this to light. I really hope that gets closed in the next CBA discussions.

[BatManu20]

700386522265055233

[spursistan]

700384563193733121

Hawks suddenly reversing course on blowing it up?..

[SpursFan86]

700385787083386880

[Kawhitstorm]

For this season yeah. ( though Blazers players probably dislike this trade lol ) But how about Varejao's next season salary, isn't it almost guaranteed?

Released/waived players with guaranteed contracts continue to be included in their former team's payroll. Players whose contracts are guaranteed are included in team salary in the amount they made while they were with the team. Players on non-guaranteed "summer contracts" are not included in team salary unless they make the regular season roster.


If another team signs a released player who had a guaranteed contract (as long as the player has cleared waivers), the player's original team is allowed to reduce the amount of money they still owe the player (and lower their team payroll) by the right of set-off. This is true if the player signs with any professional team—it does not even have to be an NBA team. The amount the original team gets to set off is limited to one-half the difference between the player's new salary and a pro-rated share of the minimum salary for a one-year veteran (if the player is a rookie, then the rookie minimum is used instead).

[spursistan]

700385787083386880

[Chinook]

700385787083386880

I'd be willing to move Patty and a pick.

[sasaint]

700384563193733121

Hawks suddenly reversing course on blowing it up?..

Keeping Horford, too, I read a few minutes ago.

[SpursFan86]

700387102991601664

Wow, that's pretty solid for Denver

[Mel_13]

700386522265055233

Moves don't get more lateral than that one.

Edit: Didn't see the Novak salary dump that was part of the deal.

[Kawhitstorm]

700384563193733121

Hawks suddenly reversing course on blowing it up?..

They have numerous owners so that could be causing issue esp. for a new ownership group.

[timtonymanu]

700387102991601664

Wow, that's pretty solid for Denver

Remember when DJ Augustin was suppose to be det guy that put OKC above the Spurs.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'd be willing to move Patty and a pick.

He has a cheap contract so they probably want more than a late 1st.

[BatManu20]

700388056126222336

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

For this season yeah. ( though Blazers players probably dislike this trade lol ) But how about Varejao's next season salary, isn't it almost guaranteed?

Either way, it's not going to be 10mil. They prorated balance on V's contract is about 3.6mil this year. He is guaranteed 9.3 mil next year. Total of 13 mil. Portland has to pay out of 6mil anyways this year. So essentially, they are paying around 6+mil to have V for a year and a future pick.

Gives Portland a tradeable asset as well.

[Spurs9]

Paul Coro @paulcoro
(https://twitter.com/paulcoro)P.J. Tucker is among the Suns' better assets but a source said the Suns have told him that he will not be traded before today's deadline.

How is Morris still on the Suns? I guess no teams want him?

[Maddog]

700382097471578116

Does he have anything left?
Not that the Spurs need another big
Liked him when healthy

[Trainwreck2100]

How is Morris still on the Suns? I guess no teams want him?

Suns have no leverage thanks to his antics so teams are most likely lowballing the shit out of them

[timtonymanu]

Does he have anything left?
Not that the Spurs need another big
Liked him when healthy

He's just as done as Splitter at this point

[SpurPadre]

Thunder make deadline trades like it's a bodily function.

[Kawhitstorm]

Remember when DJ Augustin was suppose to be det guy that put OKC above the Spurs.

I'm glad DJ is gone he busted Porker/Patty's ass last season when he was w/ the Pistons:
- http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201501060SAS.html
- http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201502110DET.html

Foye is a gunner w/ no post game so Patty/Tony can hide on him unlike Dion Butters.

DJ would actually be a nice 3rd string PG behind Patty, I remember him outplaying John Wall in a playoff game when he was with the Bulls.

[Kawhitstorm]

How is Morris still on the Suns? I guess no teams want him?

He's gonna have to choke a bitch to be traded...........Oh, he actually did!

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/morris.jpg?w=1000&h=666

[BatManu20]

700389428833849344

[timtonymanu]

I'm glad DJ is gone he busted Porker/Patty's ass last season when he was w/ the Pistons:
-http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201501060SAS.html
-http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201502110DET.html

Foye is a gunner w/ no post game so Patty/Tony can hide on him unlike Dion Butters.

DJ would actually be a nice 3rd string PG behind Patty, I remember him outplaying John Wall in a playoff game when he was with the Bulls.

He would be a great pickup actually.

[Kawhitstorm]

700389428833849344

Bucks trying to trade for the worst shooting point guard in NBA history.:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

He would be a great pickup actually.

I doubt the Nuggets waive him before Nelson:lol

[BatManu20]

700390512574902273

[pookenstein]

Dwight to Boston would be the worst off-court fit that I could think of, tbh:lol..the fans would turn on him immediately..

Well, he played his part in the demolition of the Lakers. That's surely something positive the C-Fans would put on the +side.

[Kawhitstorm]

700390512574902273

Martin/Affalo would be an empty stat galore SG combo:lol

[SpursFan86]

Lame, lots of talks about potential deals but it sounds like most of them have fallen through

[Maddog]

Lame, lots of talks about potential deals but it sounds like most of them have fallen through

I think with the big increase in cap space has made people cautious, as in let's wait and see. On the other hand- those names being bandied about have baggage. The biggest name- DH is a potentila free agent and you have to match 22 million. In addition he goes through coaches like crazy

[NameLess Scrub]

Cavs just got Frye from the Magic and only gave Varejao who's not playing anyway.
Looking for more spacing for Lebron apparently... wonder if he'll have any significant impact.

Magic get more cap space.

[BatManu20]

700395967325933568

[ceperez]

Cavs just got Frye from the Magic and only gave Varejao who's not playing anyway.
Looking for more spacing for Lebron apparently... wonder if he'll have any significant impact.

Magic get more cap space.

Got nightmares now of how Phoenix eliminated the Spurs with Frye firing up those 3 point shots.

[spursistan]

700396441060020224

Dwert :lmao

[SpursFan86]

700398327125311488

700398790075781120

[Chinook]

Spurs picked a perfect year to go into the tax. There's not going to be much in the way of a tax distribution. Even Cleveland shed salary.

[Maddog]

700396441060020224

Dwert :lmao

If you really think about- why would you trade for him?
He is in decline-
You would have to trade huge amounts to get him
He may bolt next year
Even when really good- he was bit of a head case

If I'm Boston- why give away future assets for a player that will not make you the favorite...

[cjw]

Spurs picked a perfect year to go into the tax. There's not going to be much in the way of a tax distribution. Even Cleveland shed salary.

OKC just saved $3.5+ million in salary, which results in something like $10 million of tax savings. Don't kid yourself that they actually wanted Foye. Their owners are being cheap and are either broke from oil weakness, or the resulting weak Oklahoma economy.

Looks like Spotrac is actually keeping payrolls up-to-date - you're right that the luxury tax payout looks pretty meager now:
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/




Over
Type
Tax


CLE
$22.2
Repeater
$75.3


LAC
$10.9
Repeater
$29.5


GSW
$10.8
Non
$18.2


OKC
$8.8
Repeater
$23.1


CHI
$4.3
Non
$6.5


HOU
$2.7
Non
$4.1


SAS
$1.7
Non
$2.5








Total


$159.2


Per team
23

$6.9

[BatManu20]

T-minus 30 minutes til deadline.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Masterful job by Riley to get under the tax.

[slick'81]

T-minus 30 minutes til deadline.

whole lotta nothing

[timtonymanu]

Another trade deadline and Spurs standing pat :pctoss

[raybies]

Phoenix has traded Markieff Morris to the Wizards, reports ShamsCharania and @WojVerticalNBA.

[raybies]

The wizards? Where did they come from?

[SpursFan86]

700405251900190720

[spursistan]

Detroit didn't really get significantly better, tbh..they might improve if it works out, but Montejunas has been pretty terrible, this year..

He went from a long-term asset for the Rockets to trade-able in less than a year, which probably speaks on the severity of his back injury..

I don't mind the gamble for the Pistons, but I like the move for Houston..

700375791075348480

He is on the Splitter path.but at least we milked something out Tiago before dumping him..

[HarlemHeat37]

Nice move for the Wiz, they desperately need talent and creators..

[TheDoctor]

C'mon teams, clock's ticking, let's do this!

http://31.media.tumblr.com/aefacee3b96ea3a6f78386cc4a9be61b/tumblr_inline_nt1t2co4cr1ruyn7r_500.gif

[loveforthegame]

Suns get a protected first round pick for Morris.

[raybies]

Kris Humphries and DeJuan Blair also going to PHX

[NASpurs]

Humphries and Blair going to the Suns :lol

[loveforthegame]

Blair. :lol

[szkorhetz]

Kris Humphries and DeJuan Blair also going to PHX

Blair still in the NBA? :lmao

[raybies]

Just waiting for "Pau to the Kings" so I can :lol

[timtonymanu]

:lol Blair
:lol going broke soon
:lol stuck on a lottery team

[Chinook]

Blair actually went to the best place for him. Maybe he can stay healthy there.

[jyra]

Surprised to see the Suns picking up a 1st rounder after all that talk of teams low balling them.

[BatManu20]

A 1st-round pick?? Gotta be protected.

700406634212773888

[SpursFan86]

Spears tweeted that the 1st round pick is in fact protected. Depending on how protected it is, good trade for Washington.

[Chinook]

I think this sinks the Spurs for the buyout market. Or at least it should. They'd probably try to trade whomever they were planning on cutting, as that would save more than a million bucks.

[TheDoctor]

Can't wait for the 1st fight between the Hammer and Markieff.

[Chinook]

DONE!

[NASpurs]

Well at least we can look forward to the buyout thread, it's always more entertaining than this one.

[BatManu20]

700408966140919808

[AFMadison]

Thank God AFBitchson is running the organization.
lol

[Chinook]

Well at least we can look forward to the buyout thread, it's always more entertaining than this one.

I doubt anyone would make a thread for it this year.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

We've got to get Bonner back healthy for the February 21st game at Phoenix.

[NASpurs]

I doubt anyone would make a thread for it this year.

That didn't take long :lol

[raybies]

Boring deadline

[Spurs9]

:lol Blair
:lol going broke soon
:lol stuck on a lottery team
Probably in less debt than Kayne :lol

[Robz4000]

:lol like how the Wiz came outta nowhere to take Morris

[Spurs9]

Suns fans probably so happy right now.

[NameLess Scrub]

Can't wait for the 1st fight between the Hammer and Markieff.

I hope Markieff knows better. Hammer kills bears with his bare hands.

[timtonymanu]

700410832031764480

Getting traded back to the Hawks by his other former team

[raybies]

Clippers have acquired Jeff Green, sources say.

[BatManu20]

For Jeff Green.

700413566466154496

700414296128262145

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol like how the Wiz came outta nowhere to take Morris

Good trade for the Wiz. Get a decent defender and stretch 4 player. Wiz will still be 40+mil under the cap this offseason and they will be offering most of that to Durant. Hump and Gortat starting wasn't a good combo. Once they replace Hump, Gortat stats drastically increased. Dudley is too undersize to be a legitimate starting PF. Morris will fit their system perfectly.

[NASpurs]

Lance Stephenson for Jeff Green?

https://mobile.twitter.com/danwoikesports/status/700413566466154496

*edit* :lol too slow

[siraulo23]

:/

[timtonymanu]

When was the last exciting trade deadline? :lol. It's not surprising this season with there only being 4 good teams in the league

[loveforthegame]

Damn. Incredible trade for the Clippers.

[TheDoctor]

The fuck the Grizz are doing?

[siraulo23]

Wtf memphis

[apalisoc_9]

How's lance contract?

[BatManu20]

Memphis doing the Grizz a solid there. Green's not great but he'l probably be much better as the 5th scoring option for the Clips.

[NameLess Scrub]

700410832031764480

Getting traded back to the Hawks by his other former team

It was due. He's supposed to switch between Bulls to Hawks every couple of years :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Damn. Incredible trade for the Clippers.

Their has to be a pick in that trade, more than likely a 1st from the Clips.

[timtonymanu]

For Jeff Green.

700413566466154496

700414296128262145

How many Clippers rejects do the Grizzlies have now?

[Spurs9]

Good trade for Clippers.

[NASpurs]

Memphis doing the Grizz a solid there. Green's not great but he'l probably be much better as the 5th scoring option for the Clips.



You're right, Memphis did do the Grizz a solid :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

Memphis doing the Grizz a solid there. Green's not great but he'l probably be much better as the 5th scoring option for the Clips.

Can't he play SF too?

[BatManu20]

Makes more sense now.

700414684017463297

[raybies]

ESPN sources say Clippers and Grizzlies managed to get trade in before 3 PM: Lance Stephenson and a future first-round pick for Jeff Green

[timtonymanu]

Feel like we've said every player the Clippers get is a good pickup. :lol Jeff Green is soft, but he could fit in with that team. Would rather Leonard play against him than Mbah a Moute though.

[siraulo23]

Yea 1st round pick to mem as well, not too bad for memphis and a good one for lac

[BatManu20]

Clips are desperate for some production from the 3 spot. Good gamble imo, even if it is for an overrated player like Green.

[raybies]

I once that out team cherishes draft picks.

[TheDoctor]

Grizz tanking for Simmons tbh. Putting all their hopes in the other Green, JaMychal Green.

http://stats.nba.com/media/players/230x185/203254.png

[apalisoc_9]

Is that the LA pick or do they have another pick from some other team. Thats a pretty low value pick. They could have probably gotten more out of it.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Makes more sense now.

700414684017463297

That's what I figured. No f'in way the Grizz do an even swap. Lance is Allen's future replacement. Really not a bad trade. Zach and Conley will straighten out Lance. Memphis has a bunch of tough guys on their team that don't take Bullshit. I think this trade actually helps Lance. I am sure Memphis loves his intensity, he just needs to know how to channel it properly.

[Chinook]

Is that the LA pick or do they have another pick from some other team. Thats a pretty low value pick. They could have probably gotten more out of it.

It's like a 2019 first. So for all we know CP3 and Blake could both be gone by then. Hell, even DeAndre could be gone.

[apalisoc_9]

It's like a 2019 first. So for all we know CP3 and Blake could both be gone by then. Hell, even DeAndre could be gone.

2019? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

[timtonymanu]

Damn. Incredible trade for the Clippers.

But they'll always have Jamal Crofl.

[Kawhitstorm]

I think this sinks the Spurs for the buyout market. Or at least it should. They'd probably try to trade whomever they were planning on cutting, as that would save more than a million bucks.

Unless PATFO can land Kevin Martin, the only thing on they could upgrade is the 3rd string PG (DJ>Ray) since the rest of the players won't be better than Fathead/Simmons. Really no need to sign another PF like Lee/Boozer when West/Diaw are on the bench.

If they want to waive Bonner for a rim protector, Emeka Okafor would be interesting but the guy might have called it a career & Dalembert might be completely washed up at this point. So I guess, Michael Beasley FTW (he dropped a 63 point triple double in the Chinese League All-Star game):lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Grizz tanking for Simmons tbh. Putting all their hopes in the other Green, JaMychal Green.

http://stats.nba.com/media/players/230x185/203254.png


Too late for that. Nuggets would own Memphis pick if its anywhere b/n 6-14 this year. Grizz will make the playoffs, will probably drop to the 8th seed by season end. This is obvious that Memphis wanted an extra 1st to possibly move up in this year's draft, since they know they will be a borderline lottery team by season end.

[TheDoctor]

Too late for that. Nuggets would own Memphis pick if its anywhere b/n 6-14 this year. Grizz will make the playoffs, will probably drop to the 8th seed by season end. This is obvious that Memphis wanted an extra 1st to possibly move up in this year's draft, since they know they will be a borderline lottery team by season end.
Thnx for the info CWS :toast

[Kawhitstorm]

Feel like we've said every player the Clippers get is a good pickup. :lol Jeff Green is soft, but he could fit in with that team. Would rather Leonard play against him than Mbah a Moute though.

Should do them solid to neutralize Harrison Barnes & can check Draymond. GM Doc::toast

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Unless PATFO can land Kevin Martin, the only thing on they could upgrade is the 3rd string PG (DJ>Ray) since the rest of the players won't be better than Fathead/Simmons. Really no need to sign another PF like Lee/Boozer when West/Diaw are on the bench.

If they want to waive Bonner for a rim protector, Emeka Okafor would be interesting but the guy might have called it a career & Dalembert might be completely washed up at this point. So I guess, Michael Beasley FTW (he dropped a 63 point triple double in the Chinese League All-Star game):lol

What a waste. The guy is a potential 20-25 scorer in this league, on high efficiency at that, but the dude wasted it on drugs. Guys a naturally gifted scorer and even a decent defender when he wants to be. Just lazy as fuck and a dope head. Best player in college when he was drafted. Reminds me of Clowney. Extremely gifted athlete, but lazy as fuck. With his talent, how do you not get double digit sacks when you have the best passer rusher in the nfl getting doubled and sometime tripled on the other side of the line.

[Kawhitstorm]

How many Clippers rejects do the Grizzlies have now?

Lance/Tony Allen will spread the floor for Z-Bo:lol

[SpursFan86]

Clippers could've gotten a solid bench big in Frye for Stephenson + a 2nd rounder, but instead chose to give up Stephenson and a 1st for Jeff Green :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

What a waste. The guy is a potential 20-25 scorer in this league, on high efficiency at that, but the dude wasted it on drugs. Guys a naturally gifted scorer and even a decent defender when he wants to be. Just lazy as fuck and a dope head. Best player in college when he was drafted. Reminds me of Clowney. Extremely gifted athlete, but lazy as fuck. With his talent, how do you not get double digit sacks when you have the best passer rusher in the nfl getting doubled and sometime tripled on the other side of the line.

Markieff Morris the modern day Beasley

[spursistan]

Grizzlies punting on the season, but they running the risk of surrendering their pick to Nuggets.

[TheGreatYacht]

Good. If we have to play the Thunder in the second round, Worriers better get a challenge too...

Clippers play the Worriers good for some reason

[BatManu20]

700419093082443777

[TheGreatYacht]

Clippers could've gotten a solid bench big in Frye for Stephenson + a 2nd rounder, but instead chose to give up Stephenson and a 1st for Jeff Green :lol
Frye is washed bro :lol

[YGWHI]

That's what I figured. No f'in way the Grizz do an even swap. Lance is Allen's future replacement. Really not a bad trade. Zach and Conley will straighten out Lance. Memphis has a bunch of tough guys on their team that don't take Bullshit. I think this trade actually helps Lance. I am sure Memphis loves his intensity, he just needs to know how to channel it properly.

But sometimes teams need talent and creators. Allen, Barnes, Stephenson is a genuine redundancy situation

[Kawhitstorm]

Clippers could've gotten a solid bench big in Frye for Stephenson + a 2nd rounder, but instead chose to give up Stephenson and a 1st for Jeff Green :lol

Doc traded for Jeff Green when he was in Boston :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Good. If we have to play the Thunder in the second round, Worriers better get a challenge too...

Clippers play the Worriers good for some reason

The reason is that their point guard/PF aren't a scared of Curry/Draymond.

[Chinook]

But sometimes teams need talent and creators. Allen, Barnes, Stephenson is a genuine redundancy situation

I mean, Lance is a combo-guard. so I don't think he really overlaps with the others at all.

[Kawhitstorm]

But sometimes teams need talent and creators. Allen, Barnes, Stephenson is a genuine redundancy situation

Hollinger/Morey are embarrassing the analytic community:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The reason is that their point guard/PF aren't a scared of Curry/Draymond.
They also don't have their SF as a primary scoring option tbh..

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

But sometimes teams need talent and creators. Allen, Barnes, Stephenson is a genuine redundancy situation

But Allen is 34, Stephenson is 25. Lance has a 1 1/2 to learn from Allen, one of the best perimeter defenders of this generation. It is an ideal situation for Lance. Allen is probably done in Mem, or at the very least coming off the bench after next season if he resigns, so grooming his replacement now is a smart move by the Grizz.

Barnes is a SF not a SG.

[Kawhitstorm]

They also don't have their SF as a primary scoring option tbh..
No they don't have their point guard calling plays for himself & getting the ball snatched out of his hands.:wakeup

[TheGreatYacht]

No they don't have their point guard calling plays for himself & getting the ball snatched out of his hands.:wakeup
A lot of people shit on GM Doc, but the coach knows his stuff tbh.... Giving his PF the ball while the SF stands in the corner with his hands up :tu

Has our max money SF's kryptonite for sure

[Kawhitstorm]

A lot of people shit on GM Doc, but the coach knows his stuff tbh.... Giving his PF the ball while the SF stands in the corner with his hands up :tu

Has our max money SF's kryptonite for sure

Meanwhile Porker only had the worst postseason series by a starting point guard in NBA HISTORY while getting his shyt pushed in by Choke-P3 who even upstaged him during the final 2 minutes of Gm 7 while playing on one leg:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Meanwhile Porker only had the worst postseason series by a starting point guard in NBA HISTORY while getting his shyt pushed by Choke-P3:lmao
Cucked by Matt Barnes?!?! Is he even in the league anymore :lmao

595685549630988289

Max money player :lol at least Parker has had good playoff runs, but I don't even remember Kiwi showing up for a full series lmao

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Cucked by Matt Barnes?!?! Is he even in the league anymore :lmao

595685549630988289

Max money player :lol

Dwelling on the past. Yet he dominated in the 2014 Finals. Get over it people. Maybe EVEN years will be his thing.

[Kawhitstorm]

Cucked by Matt Barnes?!?! Is he even in the league anymore :lmao

595685549630988289



"L.A. coach Doc Rivers sent a double-team at Leonard almost every time he touched the ball on the block."

Porker blew a layup & got swatted by JJ ReDick at the end of Gm 7:lmao



T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) misses 3-pt shot from 23 ft


103-102





2:50.0
Offensive rebound by K. Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html)

103-102



2:48.0
K. Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft
+2
105-102




2:31.0


105-102

C. Paul (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 3 ft


2:29.0
Defensive rebound by T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)

105-102




2:25.0
T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 4 ft


105-102




2:22.0


105-102

Defensive rebound by M. Barnes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barnema02.html)


2:12.0


105-105
+3
M. Barnes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barnema02.html) makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft (assist by J. Redick (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/redicjj01.html))


1:52.0
B. Diaw (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/diawbo01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft

105-105




1:51.0


105-105

Defensive rebound by M. Barnes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barnema02.html)


1:33.0


105-105

B. Griffin (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/griffbl01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 4 ft (block by D. Green (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html))


1:31.0
Defensive rebound by T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)

105-105





1:27.0
T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) misses 2-pt shot at rim (block by J. Redick (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/redicjj01.html))


105-105

[BatManu20]

700423807392043008

[TheGreatYacht]

Porker blew a layup & got swatted by JJ ReDick at the end of Gm 7:lmao
Getting out jumped by a 35yr old though? :rollin


http://youtu.be/DN7gkILHK-k

[Kawhitstorm]

Getting out jumped by a 35yr old though? :rollin


http://youtu.be/DN7gkILHK-k



0:01.0
Turnover by B. Diaw (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/diawbo01.html) (bad pass; steal by M. Barnes (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barnema02.html))


109-111

[TheGreatYacht]

Maybe EVEN years will be his thing.
That's gotta be it. Explains why Stephen Jackson was our best SF in the 2012 run

[YGWHI]

But Allen is 34, Stephenson is 25. Lance has a 1 1/2 to learn from Allen, one of the best perimeter defenders of this generation. It is an ideal situation for Lance. Allen is probably done in Mem, or at the very least coming off the bench after next season if he resigns, so grooming his replacement now is a smart move by the Grizz.

Barnes is a SF not a SG.

On defense the three players are interchangeable at the 2 and 3 like Allen guarding Durant. But what makes them versatile on that end, kill the Grizz on the other. Memphis' unbalanced post-centric offense has been an issue this season, and the trade doesn't help. But at least, the pick is a good thing .

[BatManu20]

Dumbass :lol

700420848314748928

[elemento]

GM Doc is absolutely awful.

[HarlemHeat37]

Wesley Johnson is a better player than Jeff Green and has been playing really solid basketball since Griffin went out, tbh..knowing Tom Rivers, he will bury the former in favor of the always overrated Green..

[Kawhitstorm]

That's gotta be it. Explains why Stephen Jackson was our best SF in the 2012 run

Spurs with Parker leading the team in WS: 3 x ZERO title:sleep
Spurs with Kawhi leading the team in WS: GOAT season in franchise history :lobt2:

[Kawhitstorm]

Wesley Johnson is a better player than Jeff Green and has been playing really solid basketball since Griffin went out, tbh..knowing Tom Rivers, he will bury the former in favor of the always overrated Green..

Wes Johnson has been coming off the bench & will continue to do so. Jeff Green is going to start over Pierce who has no business being a starter in 2016.:lol

DJ/Cole
Blake/Pierce
Jeff/Wes
ReDick/Rivers
Cp3/Crawford

Doc will most likely start Pierce/Jeff until Blake returns to the lineup.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs with Parker leading the team in WS: 3 x ZERO title:sleep
Spurs with Kawhi leading the team in WS: GOAT season in franchise history :lobt2:
WS :lol reaching for straws at this point tbh lmao

Since Kiwi entered the league:
Parker leading scorer = 1 title
Kiwi leading scorer = 1st round exit

[RD2191]

Spurs with Parker leading the team in WS: 3 x ZERO title:sleep
Spurs with Kawhi leading the team in WS: GOAT season in franchise history :lobt2:

[HarlemHeat37]

Wes Johnson has been coming off the bench & will continue to do so. Jeff Green is going to start over Pierce who has no business being a starter in 2016.:lol

DJ/Cole
Blake/Pierce
Jeff/Wes
ReDick/Rivers
Cp3/Crawford

Doc will most likely start Pierce/Jeff until Blake returns to the lineup.

Johnson has been playing nearly 30 MPG, as of late..since Griffin went out, he's been averaging about 26-27 MPG..

Jeff Green has split his minutes at PF and SF, this season..

With Pierce on a maintenance plan and expecting to receive increased minutes in the playoffs, along with Griffin's return, I bet Johnson will go from 26-27 MPG to about 15 IMO..if you think Tom Rivers is going to bench Pierce in the playoffs, you're trippin', bro:lol..

[Kawhitstorm]

WS :lol reaching for straws at this point tbh lmao

Since Kiwi entered the league:
Parker leading scorer = 1 title
Kiwi leading scorer = 1st round exit

Absent when the Spurs closed out the Blazers:sleep
Absent when the Spurs pulled out a gutsy win against OKC:sleep

1-11 in the first 3 quarter of the championship clincher then padding his stats while Kawhi was on the bench writing his MVP speech:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Johnson has been playing nearly 30 MPG, as of late..since Griffin went out, he's been averaging about 26-27 MPG..

Jeff Green has split his minutes at PF and SF, this season..

With Pierce on a maintenance plan and expecting to receive increased minutes in the playoffs, along with Griffin's return, I bet Johnson will go from 26-27 MPG to about 15 IMO..if you think Tom Rivers is going to bench Pierce in the playoffs, you're trippin', bro:lol..

Wes Johnson shouldn't be playing more than 15 minutes in the postseason. Dude is the type of cat that shrinks in the postseason ala Terrence Ross & shoots 20% which is why he has been an underachiever his entire career. Jeff Green is cut from the same stone but he's more talented.:lol

[Baseline21]

Some of these teams are just dumb. So if u can't compete for a championships what the hell are these teams thinking. U don't want to be in the middle. U either want to be having a real good shot at winning a chip or just bad, no middle of the pack. These teams that should've made deals just to get rid of contracts for picks because they stink is Houston because Howard is walking without anything in return after season is over, Atlanta,Houston,Milwaukee,Wizards,knicks so basically only like 10 teams should be improving their teams and the other 20 teams just stock pile picks and take chances on players that don't get playing time on good or great teams. Horford is gone or he will sign with Atalnta for max and the team will stink again like Joe Johnson did years ago. These bad teams just sign big contracts and still stink and will always stink. Brooklyn Nets should've shit can Brook Lopez for real good draft picks. Brooklyn could've got their pick back from Boston,David lee expiring and some other picks and could turn that horrible franchise around in 3yrs but this franchise is going in the direction of Knicks for years. Ill gurantee u that Howard walks with nothing in return, Horford gets a max from Hawks and the team still stinks or he walks and nothing in return. Grizzlies should had a fire sale after their position and gasol done for year. Conley will be in horford situation if he stays with max, team will be the same and still stink, or he walks for nothing. Just put Cavs in Eastern Conference finals for the next 5yrs. U can't say that in west. Warriors,Spurs,thunder and clips will always have a real good shot every year. Boston is an interesting team in east. If they get a star player like Durant,love,or star caliper player in summer could be a real good team. Got brooklyns 1st RC pick and if added Durant would be nice. We need compition in east badly like west meaning championship worthy.

[raybies]

700419093082443777

:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Wes Johnson shouldn't be playing more than 15-20 minutes in the playoffs. Dude is the type of cat that shrinks in the postseason & shoots 20% which is why he has been an underachiever his entire career. Jeff Green is cut from the same stone but he's more talented.:lol

I wouldn't want him playing more than 15-20 either, but if the alternatives are Jeff Green and Pierce, I'll easily go with Johnson..

Green is going to play 30 MPG for them in the playoffs, and Pierce will get at least 20 :lol..

[TD 21]

I've never been a fan of Green's, but he's one of the most criticized players of the past few years, so I don't see how he's "overrated", at this point.

He makes sense for the Clippers, both now and going forward, presuming they re-sign him, as I'd imagine they intend to. He balances the roster more (still lacking a true third big, a perennial issue) and he makes it more difficult for teams to hide their point guard defensively. Sure, they're out another 1st, but it's a ways off and their time is now. They're not winning the championship, but they've made themselves incrementally better.

I doubt Aldrich is in their playoff rotation. Griffin will probably double as the backup center, with Green/Pierce the backup power forward, depending on who starts at small forward.

[HarlemHeat37]

All off-season trolling aside, it really is nice that the Clippers lost Matt Barnes:lol..he wasn't anything special, but still, his hustle/energy gave the Spurs problems..

[r0drig0lac]

I would like to see a confrontation thug grizzlies vs warriors in the first round

[HarlemHeat37]

Tony Allen, Barnes, Stephenson, Z-Bo and Birdman:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I wouldn't want him playing more than 15-20 either, but if the alternatives are Jeff Green and Pierce, I'll easily go with Johnson..

Green is going to play 30 MPG for them in the playoffs, and Pierce will get at least 20 :lol..

Jeff Green has played well under Doc & was the Celtics leading scorer in the 2013 series against the Knicks. He's better suited as a starter than coming off the bench b/c you don't want him trying to go ISO which was the Grizzles mistake.:lol Wes Johnson is an energy guy & can play off the bench although his game will suffer b/c he needs someone like CP3 to create for him. (Doc has to have either Cp3 or Blake with the bench unit to make it work)

[YGWHI]

Dwelling on the past. Yet he dominated in the 2014 Finals. Get over it people. Maybe EVEN years will be his thing.
TheGreatYatcht forgets that Kawhi also dominated in the first 4 games of the series, averaging 24 ppg in 60 FG% and Barnes was playing for the Clippers in those games too.

But I try not to reply him, he wants to ruin every thread on ST trolling and hating on Manu and Kawhi. His "Trade Manu, he doesn't have the balls anymore" :rolleyes "Kawhi cocked by Barnes" :sleep are so boring