ESPN: Spurs Emerging as Favorites to Sign Kevin Martin

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nah, at this point Pop is developing a play off rotation and when asked to step up, he showed he's not ready. Kyle was never expected to do anything but develop last season. We had a full roster and were looking to repeat there was no place to even develop a rookie which is shy he spent most of the season in the dleague. POP only played him very early in the season which showed he needed a lot of work on his shot. Then it was strictly the Kawhi injury which brought him back and he was much better, but he wasn't going to bump Marco and Poo wanted him to continue developing his game which he needed playing time and he got in the dleague. This is not the same scenario bc Sinn is much older and spent two full seasons in the dleague alreAdy.

Anyways neither Chinook not me are arguing he should be cut. He deserves a second season. Showed enough flashes to find out if he can at least improve his fouling, etc.

And then Simmons is in the rotation in the first half undermining your entire position. Notice Pop call a quick two timeouts to get his point across about execution there in the second quarter?

Your narrative is just that and needs to be correlated to reality to be in any way persuasive.

[dabom]

Dude got a fathead going... :lol

[SpursforSix]

Now?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Killer air conditioning bro.

That's my friend G-Spence. He picked up the A/C at an antique shop. The pizza boxes too. He loves American Pickers.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Miller is already better than TMac.

[tholdren]

That's my friend G-Spence. He picked up the A/C at an antique shop. The pizza boxes too. He loves American Pickers.
gotta keep them bud ices cool

[littlecoyotecoin]

gotta keep them bud ices cool

Strictly deco. Everything is. He's actually an SAP specialist at DeLoitte. Actually paid $4500.00 for the pizza box. It has some condition issues, but Kennedy screwed Norma Jean on that box, so it actually adds value.

[SAGirl]

And then Simmons is in the rotation in the first half undermining your entire position. Notice Pop call a quick two timeouts to get his point across about execution there in the second quarter?

Your narrative is just that and needs to be correlated to reality to be in any way persuasive.
You are obviously a contrarian. I have not been against Simms at any point. You just like to debate I guess for the heck of it.

[cutewizard]

waiting for the big news.............

[Leetonidas]

Simmons is trash

[DJR210]

It's a done deal according to....whoever the fuck this dude is. :lmao

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TSpence 2.0?

:lol Ghetto af.. Bud Ice.. Dollar Tree bag used as a trash bag.. Window unit AC.. 34 and posing like we're still in the Boyz n the Hood era

[Chinook]

Window AC units are very common in the Northeast. There are a lot of old buildings where they didn't get a chance to retrofit central air. I had to lug around air conditioners to each apartment in college.

[look_at_g_shred]

:lol Ghetto af.. Bud Ice.. Dollar Tree bag used as a trash bag.. Window unit AC.. 34 and posing like we're still in the Boyz n the Hood era
Bud ice is the shit when you short on cash tbh

[keeferob25]

Window AC units are very common in the Northeast. There are a lot of old buildings where they didn't get a chance to retrofit central air. I had to lug around air conditioners to each apartment in college.

Agreed...I've seen plenty of multi-million dollar beautiful Manhattan condos with multiple Window AC units in them. When I lived in Baltimore, damn near every house I've been in had window units...and these were very nice houses.

[said7]

It's a done deal according to....whoever the fuck this dude is. :lmao

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TSpence 2.0?

If you look closely in the reflection of the oven you can see Martin playing dominoes with Andre Miller. Done deal!

[rjv]

:lol Ghetto af.. Bud Ice.. Dollar Tree bag used as a trash bag.. Window unit AC.. 34 and posing like we're still in the Boyz n the Hood era


hard to look gangsta' in front of a hello kitty appliance.

[RD2191]

If you look closely in the reflection of the oven you can see Martin playing dominoes with Andre Miller. Done deal!
:lol

[rjv]

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2016/03/02/mavericks-kevin-martin-hold-breath

dallas doesn't seems to think KM is headed to the mavs, for whatever that is worth.

[look_at_g_shred]

if he's right tho? :wow

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are obviously a contrarian. I have not been against Simms at any point. You just like to debate I guess for the heck of it.

And now a blanket dismissal on the basis of ad hominem.

I never said you were anything. I stay very far away from that; its a waste of time. I do like to argue but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Fact is that Pop is demonstrably through action more demanding of perfect execution as opposed to early in the season and Simmons is still in the rotation after a night in the dog house.

You were saying that he'd lost some competition and that was why he's now getting no minutes. You were wrong.

[ceperez]

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[HarlemHeat37]

You are obviously a contrarian. I have not been against Simms at any point. You just like to debate I guess for the heck of it.

The poster you're quoting is usually wrong about everything, but never admits it, tbh:lol..don't waste your time, he's very sensitive..

[Chinook]

SAG learning about Fuzz and TSpence within the same week. That's just cruel.

[SAGirl]

And now a blanket dismissal on the basis of ad hominem.

I never said you were anything. I stay very far away from that; its a waste of time. I do like to argue but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Fact is that Pop is demonstrably through action more demanding of perfect execution as opposed to early in the season and Simmons is still in the rotation after a night in the dog house.

You were saying that he'd lost some competition and that was why he's now getting no minutes. You were wrong.

Nah I don't like to waste time with either obvious trolls or argumentation going nowhere. I will respond to this, but probably no more bc I am not anti J.Simms and I have no interest in going in circles here.

Manu was out. Simmons played all of I think 5-6 minutes in the game when it really mattered, the rest, including his basket was in garbage time. He seemed focused in avoiding mistakes this time. No TO and no fouling, so clearly he's focused on improving. However, he was so careful to avoid mistakes in this one that his aggressiveness was not the same. He passed up a wide open 3 point shot created for him, a huge thing for him bc he's shown he can shoot, and it forced a reset. If there is an argument that really can be made for his playing time is that he's been shooting the 3 well so he should shoot more.

The other thing is they called 2 plays specifically to get him going, curling from a screen going directly at the basket. Both times he reset. He either didn't curl quick enough or his ballhandling slowed him down enough for it to be a contested shot at the basket he didn't want to take. Basically he was as hesitant and passive as Anderson was earlier in the season. Like I said he might just need time.

Next season he could improve, but the 6 or so minutes he got in this game do not proove your point bc Manu is still out of the rotation. When Manu is back those minutes won't be there.

[SupremeGuy]

It's a done deal according to....whoever the fuck this dude is. :lmao

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TSpence 2.0?Yes goddamn yes this is the fucking crap I come to ST for. :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Enough with the fake tweets, give us something already. :bang

[SAGirl]

The poster you're quoting is usually wrong about everything, but never admits it, tbh:lol..don't waste your time, he's very sensitive..


SAG learning about Fuzz and TSpence within the same week. That's just cruel.
^^ thanks :tu

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nah I don't like to waste time with either obvious trolls or argumentation going nowhere. I will respond to this, but probably no more bc I am not anti J.Simms and I have no interest in going in circles here.

Manu was out. Simmons played all of I think 5-6 minutes in the game when it really mattered, the rest, including his basket was in garbage time. He seemed focused in avoiding mistakes this time. No TO and no fouling, so clearly he's focused on improving. However, he was so careful to avoid mistakes in this one that his aggressiveness was not the same. He passed up a wide open 3 point shot created for him, a huge thing for him bc he's shown he can shoot, and it forced a reset. If there is an argument that really can be made for his playing time is that he's been shooting the 3 well so he should shoot more.

The other thing is they called 2 plays specifically to get him going, curling from a screen going directly at the basket. Both times he reset. He either didn't curl quick enough or his ballhandling slowed him down enough for it to be a contested shot at the basket he didn't want to take. Basically he was as hesitant and passive as Anderson was earlier in the season. Like I said he might just need time.

Next season he could improve, but the 6 or so minutes he got in this game do not proove your point bc Manu is still out of the rotation. When Manu is back those minutes won't be there.

I thought he was great. Poking the ball away and leading to a steal. Great close out to force a bad miss on a corner 3.

He reminds of Kawhi a couple of years ago in overdribbling on penetration. Kawhi owns the midrange now. Simmons needs a floater or similar pull up jumper package.

A lot of people were resetting all night Kawhi did, LMA did, Duncan did, KA did, etc. If its not there then its not there and you continue with the motion of the offense. Detroit plays good defense under SVG. The bad play is to force the issue when its not there. You see a problem. I see progress.

It's his defense that has been the problem and he did okay. Baynes had a similar progression.

When Manu comes back and is getting 20+ mpg both of your supposed head to head competitors are going to lose minutes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

SAG learning about Fuzz and TSpence within the same week. That's just cruel.

:lol guilt by association. TSpence makes up news stories and grandstands on them. WTF does that have to do with me?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The poster you're quoting is usually wrong about everything, but never admits it, tbh:lol..don't waste your time, he's very sensitive..

Apparently irony is today's word of the day.

[apalisoc_9]

5th grade girls basketball "coach" :lol

[Dex]

For all we know the damn buyout hasn't even cleared yet. It apparently wasn't agreed upon and send to the league until like 11:00PM EST on the 1st. That means the league probably didn't even look at it until sometime yesterday, and it's been in their hands all of one day.

Not that I don't expect it will get approved but...shit takes time.

[Ron Swanson]

Anymore tweets from Gspence?

[TheDoctor]

Anymore tweets from Gspence?


http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

[Dex]

Anymore tweets from Gspence?

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Workin his emoji game...

[Dex]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao Holy shit...

[timtonymanu]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

:lmao

[NASpurs]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

:lol

[Sean Cagney]

Enough with the fake tweets, give us something already. :bang

He can't sign until tomorrow so nothing will come out today. We will see more of the same Spurs are front runners crap all day today unfortunately but no action.

[Ron Swanson]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

Holy shit!

[r0drig0lac]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

lmao

[Mugen]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Robz4000]

This thread delivers tbh.

[Emperor]

It's a done deal according to....whoever the fuck this dude is. :lmao

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TSpence 2.0?

Could have atleast repped a Lone Star instead.

[tholdren]

Agreed...I've seen plenty of multi-million dollar beautiful Manhattan condos with multiple Window AC units in them. When I lived in Baltimore, damn near every house I've been in had window units...and these were very nice houses.
Sorry guys, but if you got window units, you are either broke or dumb

[HarlemHeat37]

Sorry guys, but if you got window units, you are either broke or dumb

Does it keep you up at night knowing that there are Black men with central AC in their homes, tbh?

[Spurs9]

Sorry guys, but if you got window units, you are either broke or dumb
You think areas that are mostly cold have AC? :lol
Most everywhere in Europe have window units.

[tonight...you]

Does it keep you up at night knowing that there are Black men with central AC in their homes, tbh?
I feel bad for the Mexicans here in (well I want to say El Paso, but really I mean Juarez) this border town whose AC units are simply open windows, hoping for a draft to breeze through when it hits 113 degrees.

I freaking picked up a homeless dude last year just to get him out of the sun because he was literally passing out on the sidewalk from the heat. Took him to Walmart. Got him some food and some liquids along with a seat in a place with some A/C and made sure he wasn't bugged for a good bit so he could cool down.

My wife has an Uncle in Juarez that's... man- you don't know real poverty.

[HarlemHeat37]

I feel bad for the Mexicans here in (well I want to say El Paso, but really I mean Juarez) this border town whose AC units are simply open windows, hoping for a draft to breeze through when it hits 113 degrees.

I freaking picked up a homeless dude last year just to get him out of the sun because he was literally passing out on the sidewalk from the heat. Took him to Walmart. Got him some food and some liquids along with a seat in a place with some A/C and made sure he wasn't bugged for a good bit so he could cool down.

My wife has an Uncle in Juarez that's... man- you don't know real poverty.

Ya, that's tough, bro..I'm from poverty(Harlem before gentrification), my parents never owned a house until I bought one for them 2 years ago..we lived in a shitty house with no AC, our car never had AC, etc..the humid nights were the worst..

I didn't know about real poverty until I began traveling, though..definitely makes you appreciate living in America(and then Canada, which has been even better for me:lol)

[tonight...you]

Ya, that's tough, bro..I'm from poverty(Harlem before gentrification), my parents never owned a house until I bought one for them 2 years ago..we lived in a shitty house with no AC, our car never had AC, etc..the humid nights were the worst..

I didn't know about real poverty until I began traveling, though..definitely makes you appreciate living in America(and then Canada, which has been even better for me:lol)
Fist to Chest to you brother.
Grew up in dirt, bought my ma a house before she left me forever(pops left this world when I was 3). That's when you can call yourself a real man, in my mind.

Crazy respect bruddah. You speak the Truth, then you know the struggle.

I've had more than a few friends suggest a move to Canada to me, but it's been a 12 year fight to simply get my passport, up until just last month (long story and won't be posted public) so my future is up for grabs now.

It's pretty awesome being a legal citizen of your own country that you were born in and lived almost your entire life for the first time in over a decade.

[apalisoc_9]

Ya, that's tough, bro..I'm from poverty(Harlem before gentrification), my parents never owned a house until I bought one for them 2 years ago..we lived in a shitty house with no AC, our car never had AC, etc..the humid nights were the worst..

I didn't know about real poverty until I began traveling, though..definitely makes you appreciate living in America(and then Canada, which has been even better for me:lol)

Respect brother.

Been saving really hard too to pay off my parents mortgage.

Yeah, North Americans dont know what real poverty..lived in different countries to realize even people in welfare here are lucky as fuck.

[daslicer]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :lol Wow the same poster just under 3 different alts talking to himself.

[tonight...you]

Respect brother.

Been saving really hard too to pay off my parents mortgage.

Yeah, North Americans don't know what real poverty is..lived in different countries to realize even people in welfare here are lucky as fuck.
There are North Americans that know real poverty.
Not everybody gets welfare, no matter how fair it is, or isn't.

The vast majority that get's the privilege of occasionally posting, or even getting online don't have the time to articulate their struggles enough to make a difference so they just do what they can do.
Someone from Canada isn't expected to understand, much like someone from the U.S.

My takes are singular from my experiences. True poverty doesn't know what an internet is. Nor do they care. They care about what they may eat in the next three to four days because they didn't eat today and dinner isn't happening tonight.
Nor is breakfast tomorrow. And a bathroom would be great if it was within walking distance... Shit- going to have to go here...

[mookie2001]

Things was deep, my whole youth was sharper than cleats, 2 brothers with muscular dystrophy..

[BillMc]

hard to look gangsta' in front of a hello kitty appliance.
:lmao Words to live by. :)

[tonight...you]

Things was deep, my whole youth was sharper than cleats, 2 brothers with muscular dystrophy..
I came from the dirt.
Always showing off my worth.
Trying to make a cent.
Keep my family from being spent.

How far can I go?
Doing this from day to day?
As far I can go.
The Lord doth say.

My hard work be well spent.
Good brothers came and went.
But I still carried on.
For my Family stayed strong.

And now:
Here I am.
Better and wiser, I am, a man.
Stronger than steel, softer than yams (I'm reaching now...)

So now I say to you,
Oh brother of mine:
Let not weakness bleed your heart,
For if you're still here now,
You were brave to get past my start.







Thank you... I'll be here til the alcohol makes me pass out shamelessly on your woman's cleavage and don't forget to tip your waitress.
I get a fucking cut of that shit...

[TEXICAN]

I feel bad for the Mexicans here in (well I want to say El Paso, but really I mean Juarez) this border town whose AC units are simply open windows, hoping for a draft to breeze through when it hits 113 degrees.

I freaking picked up a homeless dude last year just to get him out of the sun because he was literally passing out on the sidewalk from the heat. Took him to Walmart. Got him some food and some liquids along with a seat in a place with some A/C and made sure he wasn't bugged for a good bit so he could cool down.

My wife has an Uncle in Juarez that's... man- you don't know real poverty.
Im from EL Paso too and Juarez is so poor its absolutely terrible its unimaginable. I still have family in Juarez but I haven't visited since the drug war began in 08.

[tonight...you]

Im from EL Paso too and Juarez is so poor its absolutely terrible its unimaginable. I still have family in Juarez but I haven't visited since the drug war began in 08.
Don't blame you. Since I moved here, two of my neighbors were beheaded, but that was a few years ago and things have really gotten better since then, but...

This place still crazy. People in CenTex don't know... And especially people in the friendly confines of Canada.

[ceperez]

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[Brazil]

:lol Juarez is tough tbh... But you have long calm periods when war drugs is settled is quite safe actually. I'd say it's safer than most of Rio de Janeiro city or São Paulo well unless you are a poor young woman

[ceperez]

Are Spurs signing Martin because Manu isn't 100%?

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/columnists/buck_harvey/article/Return-of-Ginobili-How-the-timetable-fits-6862013.php?t=76f42b57efebaa2aab&cmpid=twitter-premium

[tonight...you]

:lol Juarez is tough tbh... But you have long calm periods when war drugs is settled is quite safe actually. I'd say it's safer than most of Rio de Janeiro city or São Paulo well unless you are a poor young woman
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with you on that.
Things have been calm lately. But there's always something going on here. Always. It just doesn't always erupt enough to gain international news' attention. Much like Rio...
I saw a guy get shot in the leg three week ago, downtown, from a gunshot across the border (downtown is mere yards from the border fence). No news.

The university (UTEP) was hit by bullets from across the border AGAIN from stray bullets last weekend. This place is always hopping! I love it!

Although I admit I'm glad I live in the mountains now.

[BatManu20]

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[timtonymanu]

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Figured that's what stalled talks.

[exstatic]

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50% is pretty standard.

[tonight...you]

There are many teams that could use him and offer him way more PT.
True. I wouldn't be surprised if he was told that Manu was retiring after this season and he would get plenty of time at the SG and backup 3 positions.

With a decent future contract promise, to be sure.

Not saying that is happening, or happened, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[Spurs9]

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Maybe I don't understand the whole buyout thing. Was that $4million given up just from now until end of this year? Why give up that much money just for 20 something games left?

[Mel_13]

Maybe I don't understand the whole buyout thing. Was that $4million given up just from now until end of this year? Why give up that much money just for 20 something games left?

Over 7M was in a player option for next season. He's betting he can make up the difference in a new contract this summer.

[dabom]

Dude got a fathead going... :lol


http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/Kyle_Scoup.jpg

Genius. :lol

[DJR210]

Bud ice is the shit when you short on cash tbh

If I'm gonna hobo that shit I'll go Steel Reserve or High Gravity tbh, at least those are 8% abv

[will_spurs]

This thread delivers tbh.

[tonight...you]

If I'm gonna hobo that shit I'll go Steel Reserve or High Gravity tbh, at least those are 8% abv
That is hardcore as hell. That shit is pure swill, but it'll take you where you want to go easier and cheaper than Bud Ice.

[SAGirl]

Are Spurs signing Martin because Manu isn't 100%?

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/columnists/buck_harvey/article/Return-of-Ginobili-How-the-timetable-fits-6862013.php?t=76f42b57efebaa2aab&cmpid=twitter-premium
Manu is coming back very soon, and he was in good spirits. He actually can afford to take it one game at a time, maybe avoid a B2B, maybe hAve minutes limited while he gets his conditioning up. I think the interest in Martin was independent of Manu based on that Pop interview that mentioned the "tampering".

If that happens maybe Butler is the man out? You still have Boris to spread the floor as a " medium 4", Anderson, and Bonner when you need a strict 3 of shot I guess. With Martin around you don't need Butler and his deal initially wasn't guaranteed so although it became guaranteed he was not in a super secure situation all season. Bonner should really be the man let go, but the level of attAchment, + Bonners desire to keep playing. I can't see it.

[DPG21920]

Maybe I don't understand the whole buyout thing. Was that $4million given up just from now until end of this year? Why give up that much money just for 20 something games left?

Mel is correct - think of it like this: Since he gave up 4M this year to play for SA (or whomever) all he has to make next year on a new contract is 4M and he's broken even. And he's out of MINNY now.

[DPG21920]

Look, to me, logic dictates that Bonner is the guy cut if Martin comes to SA. Every move made this year was not with an eye on the future, but giving the team the best shot this year. With Bonner's injuries and Butler actually producing it stands to reason that Bonner hasn't proven he can help this year more than Butler.

If SA keeps with what they have been doing, then logic points to Bonner being gone.

[ceperez]

Manu is coming back very soon, and he was in good spirits. He actually can afford to take it one game at a time, maybe avoid a B2B, maybe hAve minutes limited while he gets his conditioning up. I think the interest in Martin was independent of Manu based on that Pop interview that mentioned the "tampering".

If that happens maybe Butler is the man out? You still have Boris to spread the floor as a " medium 4", Anderson, and Bonner when you need a strict 3 of shot I guess. With Martin around you don't need Butler and his deal initially wasn't guaranteed so although it became guaranteed he was not in a super secure situation all season. Bonner should really be the man let go, but the level of attAchment, + Bonners desire to keep playing. I can't see it.

C'mon, after Butler donated his time on the Santa Claus charity and other Spurs children charities?!

[dabom]

Look, to me, logic dictates that Bonner is the guy cut if Martin comes to SA. Every move made this year was not with an eye on the future, but giving the team the best shot this year. With Bonner's injuries and Butler actually producing it stands to reason that Bonner hasn't proven he can help this year more than Butler.

If SA keeps with what they have been doing, then logic points to Bonner being gone.

Smart man. :toast

[ceperez]

Look, to me, logic dictates that Bonner is the guy cut if Martin comes to SA. Every move made this year was not with an eye on the future, but giving the team the best shot this year. With Bonner's injuries and Butler actually producing it stands to reason that Bonner hasn't proven he can help this year more than Butler.

If SA keeps with what they have been doing, then logic points to Bonner being gone.

I guess keeping Bonner has defied logic for so long now that Spurs fans wouldn't be surprised if he *wasn't* cut!!

[DPG21920]

I guess keeping Bonner has defied logic for so long now that Spurs fans wouldn't be surprised if he *wasn't* cut!!

:lol This logic is also true

[Spurs9]

Look, to me, logic dictates that Bonner is the guy cut if Martin comes to SA. Every move made this year was not with an eye on the future, but giving the team the best shot this year. With Bonner's injuries and Butler actually producing it stands to reason that Bonner hasn't proven he can help this year more than Butler.

If SA keeps with what they have been doing, then logic points to Bonner being gone.
Yeah could be Duncan/Ginobilis last year so gotta get every edge you can for any weak link. The nice thing about the current 10 game lead over the 3rd seed is we can see lots of experimenting by Pop with lineups since we probably won't get the 1st seed. That along with the hiring of Kirk they are all in to try to knock the dubs off seeing anything they can exploit.

[ace3g]

Kevin Martin should clear waivers tonight around 11 p.m. CST

[benfti]

Kevin Martin should clear waivers tonight around 11 p.m. CST
What time is it there now, I need to know how many hours I hit refresh for and it's only 11am here?

[timtonymanu]

damn it ace :lol.

[mando6599]

Kevin Martin should clear waivers tonight around 11 p.m. CST

Saying he clears waivers, is he at all still playoff available? Or not?

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, because the buyout was completed before the deadline.

[mando6599]

Yes, because the buyout was completed before the deadline.

Ok, thanks, I hadn't seen any news one way or the other on that.

[DPG21920]

Saying he clears waivers, is he at all still playoff available? Or not?

Yes. The only thing that matters is when the buyout was completed. Anyone that was bought out on March 1st is eligible regardless of when they sign (well, technically not true, I think rosters lock the week playoffs start).

[SpurPadre]

I guess keeping Bonner has defied logic for so long now that Spurs fans wouldn't be surprised if he *wasn't* cut!!

Exactly! LOL.

[DPG21920]

What time is it there now, I need to know how many hours I hit refresh for and it's only 11am here?

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[ace3g]

Like others have said before, to still be playoff eligible, player had to bought out before March 2. After you are bought out/waived, you are placed on the league's waiver wire where teams with priority can claim him. If after 48 hours and no one claims the player (and their salary), they are a free agent.

He was waived around 10:34 p.m. CST on March 1st, so depending on when league approval occurred, tonight around that time he will be a free agent.

[sasaint]

Manu is coming back very soon, and he was in good spirits. He actually can afford to take it one game at a time, maybe avoid a B2B, maybe hAve minutes limited while he gets his conditioning up. I think the interest in Martin was independent of Manu based on that Pop interview that mentioned the "tampering".

If that happens maybe Butler is the man out? You still have Boris to spread the floor as a " medium 4", Anderson, and Bonner when you need a strict 3 of shot I guess. With Martin around you don't need Butler and his deal initially wasn't guaranteed so although it became guaranteed he was not in a super secure situation all season. Bonner should really be the man let go, but the level of attAchment, + Bonners desire to keep playing. I can't see it.

Cutting a healthy player like Butler after the deadline and depriving him of a chance to play in the playoffs seems cold. Spurs just assuming Butler couldn't find a job with another playoff contender just doesn't seem Spursian, especially since it would be very unlikely that an injured Red Rocket would be able to find employment.

[SAGirl]

Cutting a healthy player like Butler after the deadline and depriving him of a chance to play in the playoffs seems cold. Spurs just assuming Butler couldn't find a job with another playoff contender just doesn't seem Spursian, especially since it would be very unlikely that an injured Red Rocket would be able to find employment.
I agree... but it also doesn't seem likely that you will need him. Think about it. If you have Martin and Anderson behind him... really the time to play even Simmons or Butler in the playoffs is really remote.

One of the reasons I was not in favor of Martin is that Butler has already gelled here, has played a kind of stretch 4 for the most part, and has played solid, no drama in his role either. He has stayed ready and produced. Martin is an unknown since he's had a bad season, he's a gimicky scorer, weak on defense, and gelling is a question with Ginobili as he's reportedly ball dominant. I am not psyched to get him, but whatever its maybe the last season for Timmy and Manu. Simmons/Anderson are young prospects, the only ones we are carrying this season, better than the Daye/Ayers combo we had in the past and they will be needed, if not this season, then the next. The team is old and will need to inject younger players in larger roles. Those two guys are not let go. (+Anderson is guaranteed for about 2 mill next season and has played a lot lately).

Butler and Bonner are basically in the same spot once Martin gets here. The human aspect cannot be ignored. As much as Butler has given, Bonner has been here for years. I am not arguing in favor of Bonner, but its easy for us to say who should get cut and the reality behind the whole thing is different. I didn't even want to let Ray go over Bonner if we are being honest. I thought he did fine enough and RC himself said he still saw development potential in him, the team just wanted to get better for the immediate future and had to let him go. . . should Bonner not have been let go in his stead? yes, but Ray wasn't going to play either and with Martin here, probably Butler would not either. None of them would be difference makers at that point.

I am still doubtful Martin chooses San Antonio. If he's looking for another contract he's maybe hoping to get Marco money after showing up in a highlight playoff game or something... but he's also probably not guaranteed minutes.

[DPG21920]

I agree... but it also doesn't seem likely that you will need him. Think about it. If you have Martin and Anderson behind him... really the time to play even Simmons or Butler in the playoffs is really remote.

One of the reasons I was not in favor of Martin is that Butler has already gelled here, has played a kind of stretch 4 for the most part, and has played solid, no drama in his role either. He has stayed ready and produced. Martin is an unknown since he's had a bad season, he's a gimicky scorer, weak on defense, and gelling is a question with Ginobili as he's reportedly ball dominant. I am not psyched to get him, but whatever its maybe the last season for Timmy and Manu. Simmons/Anderson are young prospects, the only ones we are carrying this season, better than the Daye/Ayers combo we had in the past and they will be needed, if not this season, then the next. The team is old and will need to inject younger players in larger roles. Those two guys are not let go. (+Anderson is guaranteed for about 2 mill next season and has played a lot lately).

Butler and Bonner are basically in the same spot once Martin gets here. The human aspect cannot be ignored. As much as Butler has given, Bonner has been here for years. I am not arguing in favor of Bonner, but its easy for us to say who should get cut and the reality behind the whole thing is different. I didn't even want to let Ray go over Bonner if we are being honest. I thought he did fine enough and RC himself said he still saw development potential in him, the team just wanted to get better for the immediate future and had to let him go. . . should Bonner not have been let go in his stead? yes, but Ray wasn't going to play either and with Martin here, probably Butler would not either. None of them would be difference makers at that point.

I am still doubtful Martin chooses San Antonio. If he's looking for another contract he's maybe hoping to get Marco money after showing up in a highlight playoff game or something... but he's also probably not guaranteed minutes.

The big difference in Ray over Bonner vs Butler over Bonner is that Ray sucked here. I said that before the Miller thing was an issue that I had been very disappointed in Ray as someone that was behind the trade for him. He was bad. Butler has been good.

If it comes down to relationships like you said, then sure, with Ray sucking the relationship won out with Bonner. But Butler is not sucking and I think that is what is valued the most.

[$pursDynasty]

I can't believe we would cut a Butler or a Simmons that we can use for an injured Bonner for nostalgia's sake. Matt would still get a ring and would probably log as many playoff minutes, if he is on the roster or cut, zero. Whereas I can see everyone else on the roster getting some run

[spurtech09]

So whats the deal....Is Martin going to sign with the Spurs or not?

[ace3g]

We will know once he clears waivers.

[Ditty]

He should clear waivers within the hour. Probably hear something tomorrow morning.

[Robz4000]

Should've cleared waivers already. Thought this thread would be pretty active right now...

[$pursDynasty]

Should've cleared waivers already. Thought this thread would be pretty active right now...
Everyone watching Dubs vs Thunderefs

[dabom]

That's game. lol

[SPURt]

Everyone watching Dubs vs Thunderefs
Yep, Westbrook shooting like butt and turnovers everywhere. OKC in a serious slump.

[TheDoctor]

Everyone watching Dubs vs Thunderefs

Please. That game ended as soon as Mo Speights started hitting treys.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs dropping Butler over Bonner to get KMart would be the worst move in the history of the front office. Does Bonner have pics of Pop doing a line of coke off R.C.'s ass or something?

This should be a no brainer for the front office. You cut Bonehead, sign him to a front office or bench gig, and bring in KMart.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Spurs dropping Butler over Bonner to get KMart would be the worst move in the history of the front office. Does Bonner have pics of Pop doing a line of coke off R.C.'s ass or something?

This should be a no brainer for the front office. You cut Bonehead, sign him to a front office or bench gig, and bring in KMart.

dont think I could agree more

[TheDoctor]

C'mon Martin, join us...
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2Fd686b4 4b4f154fa883302d2c8cb789f9%2Ftumblr_mxjpcoBvcg1rlh eeoo6_r2_250.gif&key=TlwA66Tp7Tb-f9YY8HQ5Ig

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs dropping Butler over Bonner to get KMart would be the worst move in the history of the front office. Does Bonner have pics of Pop doing a line of coke off R.C.'s ass or something?This should be a no brainer for the front office. You cut Bonehead, sign him to a front office or bench gig, and bring in KMart.

[Kawhitstorm]

Spurs dropping Butler over Bonner to get KMart would be the worst move in the history of the front office. Does Bonner have pics of Pop doing a line of coke off R.C.'s ass or something?

The "corporate knowledge" thing might be referring to skeletons in the closet.:wakeup

[NASpurs]

The "corporate knowledge" thing might be referring to skeletons in the closet.:wakeup

Bonner knows Pop likes a pinky in the ass while getting blown. Don't even want to know how Bonner found out.

[Mnky]

C'mon Martin, join us...
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2Fd686b4 4b4f154fa883302d2c8cb789f9%2Ftumblr_mxjpcoBvcg1rlh eeoo6_r2_250.gif&key=TlwA66Tp7Tb-f9YY8HQ5Ig

:lol
Awesome.

[DenialTwist]

I really hope they don't cut Butler just to keep Bonner. Butler is always ready to play aka Mr. Reliable and he is great for spacing. We don't need to worry about Bonner injuring his calf every time he attempts a three.

[BillMc]

C'mon Martin, join us...
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2Fd686b4 4b4f154fa883302d2c8cb789f9%2Ftumblr_mxjpcoBvcg1rlh eeoo6_r2_250.gif&key=TlwA66Tp7Tb-f9YY8HQ5Ig

It is your destiny...

[CGD]

Seeing that he left 4m on the table, means he thinks he'll get a long term deal to offset some of that somewhere else.

Maybe he's looking for somewhere that can assure him years in addition to money? Not sure the Spurs would commit to him after their year.

[Chinook]

Seeing that he left 4m on the table, means he thinks he'll get a long term deal to offset some of that somewhere else.

Maybe he's looking for somewhere that can assure him years in addition to money? Not sure the Spurs would commit to him after their year.

I don't think it means that at all. He just feels like he can get a few million next season, and he's probably right.

[ceperez]

I don't think it means that at all. He just feels like he can get a few million next season, and he's probably right.

This could be problematic because he's making an assumption that he's going to get playoff minutes.

Mavs and OKC rosters have a lot of minutes available.

I can't see the same for the Spurs unless Manu is unavailable.

Look at this roster:

Parker/Mills/Miller
Green/Manu/Simmons <-- Martin
Leonard/Anderson/Butler
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/West/Boban

To make it worse, Spurs are playing with lineups with both Leonard and Anderson on the court. The deck is full.

So Spurs really have a problem making a competitive offer for Martin. I currently just don't see it unless Martin bites the bullet and wants to get the ring.

[exstatic]

Seeing that he left 4m on the table, means he thinks he'll get a long term deal to offset some of that somewhere else.

Maybe he's looking for somewhere that can assure him years in addition to money? Not sure the Spurs would commit to him after their year.

What Chinook said. He really left nothing on the table. He had a player option that he was threatening to exercise, so they paid him half of what he would have gotten for playing next year in Minny just to go away. He got FREE money, and won't need much to sign next year.

[dbestpro]

Spurs dropping Butler over Bonner to get KMart would be the worst move in the history of the front office. Does Bonner have pics of Pop doing a line of coke off R.C.'s ass or something?

This should be a no brainer for the front office. You cut Bonehead, sign him to a front office or bench gig, and bring in KMart.

I agree that Bonner is the logical cut, but to say that dropping 36 year old Rasual Butler would be the worst move in the history of the front office, might be a bit of an over statement.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I agree that Bonner is the logical cut, but to say that dropping 36 year old Rasual Butler would be the worst move in the history of the front office, might be a bit of an over statement.

:spless:

[Robz4000]

Heard he signed with the Tropics tbh. Can anyone confirm?

[benefactor]

Heard he signed with the Tropics tbh. Can anyone confirm?
Wojtek tweeted that earlier but took it down. False alarm I suppose.

[lefty]

Wojtek tweeted that earlier but took it down. False alarm I suppose.
My nig Wojtek playing mind games

[ceperez]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccs9xnhVIAAzeiP.jpg:large

[BillMc]

Can't believe I'm (partially) wasting my Friday night to see if we get this scrub. Sign with SOMEONE Kevin...

[SpurPadre]

Can't believe I'm (partially) wasting my Friday night to see if we get this scrub. Sign with SOMEONE Kevin...

It almost feels like he's dragging this out "The Decision" style, too.

[Ron Swanson]

He's waiting for a time slot on ESPN to announce where he's signing. It's called "Kevin: The Choice". Stay tuned.

[raybies]

It almost feels like he's dragging this out "The Decision" style, too.
Must be a tough decision. Almost no word.

[TheMulletMan3000]

He's waiting for a time slot on ESPN to announce where he's signing. It's called "Kevin: The Choice". Stay tuned.


:lol

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccs9xnhVIAAzeiP.jpg:large

Somebody posted this pic a few pages back but he was wearing #22. Now he's wearing #23. 22 + 23 = 45. 4+5 = 9. Tony Parker wears #9. Illuminati confirmed. The Spurs are going to release Tony for Martin.

[will_spurs]

He's waiting for a time slot on ESPN to announce where he's signing. It's called "Kevin: The Choice". Stay tuned.

K-Mart: The Shopping.

[BillMc]

K-Mart: The Shopping.
:lol

[SpurPadre]

Must be a tough decision. Almost no word.

I can see it now, "I'm taking my MODEST talents to The Land!"

[BillMc]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

Truthfully, unlike others here I like Bonner and wouldn't want his Spurs tenure to end so ignominiously. :lol

[BillMc]

I can see it now, "I'm taking my MODEST talents to The Land!"
:lol

[cjw]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

Truthfully, unlike others here I like Bonner and wouldn't want his Spurs tenure to end so ignominiously. :lol


Maybe they're waiting for after tomorrow's game against the Kings so Bonner gets his send off game?

[will_spurs]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

"I've stocked up on sandwiches, I'm ready for a siege!"

[beirmeistr]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

Truthfully, unlike others here I like Bonner and wouldn't want his Spurs tenure to end so ignominiously. :lol
souns like his regular residence

[Ron Swanson]

Bonner threw his cell phone in the river, got in his El Camino and headed into the sunset. The theme music from The Incredible Hulk playing in the background.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't know if this guy is a beat writer and follows the team on the road (he has projectspurs on his bio), but it's interesting that he ran into Matt's dad... Does Matt's father always travel with him? Or was last night's game a special one for some reason :stirpot:705799632266211329

[Mel_13]

Maybe the Spurs aren't that interested. That Buck Harvey column in the Manu injury thread indicates that Manu's quicker than expected recovery could lessen their interest in Martin.

Squeezing those last few dollars out of Minny could cost Martin in other ways.

[BillMc]

"I've stocked up on sandwiches, I'm ready for a siege!"


souns like his regular residence


Bonner threw his cell phone in the river, got in his El Camino and headed into the sunset. The theme music from The Incredible Hulk playing in the background.

We've concocted quite an ending to the Red Mamba era, now all we need is a shoot out, a chain-smoking, buxom femme fatale and some Bonner-esque wit and we can start on the screenplay.:toast Call it "Y Tu Mambá También"

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

Truthfully, unlike others here I like Bonner and wouldn't want his Spurs tenure to end so ignominiously. :lol

Or he could be in a van down by the Guadalupe River...

[SpurPadre]

I don't know if this guy is a beat writer and follows the team on the road (he has projectspurs on his bio), but it's interesting that he ran into Matt's dad... Does Matt's father always travel with him? Or was last night's game a special one for some reason :stirpot:705799632266211329

If he were leaving, I don't think his dad would be saying his son plays for them in that fashion.

[larrychen21]

maybe spurs plan to let Matt play his retirement game at home tomorrow before waiving him and signing KMart

[BillMc]

Or he could be in a van down by the Guadalupe River...

:lol Truth

[loveforthegame]

Can't believe I'm (partially) wasting my Friday night to see if we get this scrub. Sign with SOMEONE Kevin...

Same here. I keep checking as if I'm going to miss something as soon as I put my phone down.

I'm surprised how quiet it is with him. Not a peep with any team.

[BillMc]

Same here. I keep checking as if I'm going to miss something as soon as I put my phone down.

I'm surprised how quiet it is with him. Not a peep with any team.

I'm doing the same, why, I don't know. It's not like the LMA watch last summer. Doubt Kevin Martin makes a difference one way or the other.

[beirmeistr]

We've concocted quite an ending to the Red Mamba era, now all we need is a shoot out, a chain-smoking, buxom femme fatale and some Bonner-esque wit and we can start on the screenplay.:toast Call it "Y Tu Mambá También"

good one

[$pursDynasty]

Maybe they've agreed but nobody can find Bonner to tell him the bad news first! Matty with the phone off, camped out under an assumed name in a cheap motel on some desolate highway until Kevin re-thinks the signing.

Truthfully, unlike others here I like Bonner and wouldn't want his Spurs tenure to end so ignominiously. :lol
But Bill his tenure is seemingly going to end as the very last person on the bench in a suit, so I really don't see the difference, I would think he would fall on his sword for the team and get that front office gig.

[Luxic]

As far as my understanding of the CBA goes (but you can check yourself at cbafaq.com (http://cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm)), Kevin Martin has officially hit free agency only about an hour ago (5pm ET).

This is beacause the 48-hour waiver period always ends at 5pm ET. Therefore, while the Timberwolves did request waivers for him at about 11pm ET on Tuesday (which is enough to make him eligible for the playoffs), the actual waiver period started at 5pm ET on the following day (Wednesday) and ended at 5pm ET today (Friday), i.e. an hour ago.

So, basically, it's unlikely we're gonna get any news about him before Sunday...

[MoSpur]

It has Spurs written all over because we HAVEN'T heard anything.

[Obstructed_View]

Isn't the question who they're going to cut to make room for Martin?

[MoSpur]

The obvious answer is Bonner, but then again Pop is faithful to the Red Mamba and so I think Butler would be the one to go.

[tholdren]

Isn't the question who they're going to cut to make room for Martin?
no - its bonner

[spurtech09]

Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick TOOOOOCCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

[Sean Cagney]

Blah blah blah, another long thread and a bunch of nothing so far.. I will wait until he actually signs to even entertain the thought of what he can do for the Spurs, until then it's irrelevant. Spurs have been front runners quite a few times for people and nothing comes of it or they switch at the last minute.

[look_at_g_shred]

Blah blah blah, another long thread and a bunch of nothing so far.. I will wait until he actually signs to even entertain the thought of what he can do for the Spurs, until then it's irrelevant. Spurs have been front runners quite a few times for people and nothing comes of it or they switch at the last minute.
I got a gut feeling he's going to the Mavs just cause

[turkish spurs fan]

is he comin?

[td4mvp2k]

Blah blah blah, another long thread and a bunch of nothing so far.. I will wait until he actually signs to even entertain the thought of what he can do for the Spurs, until then it's irrelevant. Spurs have been front runners quite a few times for people and nothing comes of it or they switch at the last minute.:( but but hes the missing piece...

[NASpurs]

He joined!!

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/705949486405677057

Free agent guard Kevin Martin has agreed to join the San Antonio Spurs, according to league sources

[BatManu20]

He's a Spur.

705949486405677057

[TXstbobcat]

:danceclub

[elemento]

Finally :toast

[spursistan]

who is getting cut?

[lefty20]

Stacked, tbh.

[BatManu20]

OKC counters :lol

705950682914930688

[NASpurs]

Now this thing is over and we can move on :lol

[NASpurs]

OKC counters :lol

705950682914930688

Can he play SG? Because one thing OKC needs is more big men

[BatManu20]

I was hoping this thread would get to 100 pages.

[BatManu20]

Can he play SG? Because one thing OKC needs is more big men

I don't think OKC knows what they need. Poorly GM'ed, poorly coached team tbh.

[Spurs9]

We did it guys

[Ron Swanson]

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[SpurPadre]

Manu is coming back and we still get Martin? Wow, good day.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Manu is coming back and we still get Martin? Wow, good day.

We'll have our cake and eat it too, apparently :lol

Welcome to the Alamo City, Kevin Martin!

[turb0time]

Holy shit boys here we go!! :bobo:lma:claw

[Boomersgold]

Is Martin even in the rotation or is he this year's T-mac?

[Keepin' it real]

Is Martin even in the rotation or is he this year's T-mac?

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/random-ness/images/6/6b/Not_Sure_if_Serious_meme.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110727182048

[lefty]

Bump




KD must be like : "FUCK NO"

[lefty]

Bump

KD : "FKUC NO"

[Chinook]

Had that dude pegged the whole time. Some people just fell in love with a name.

[timtonymanu]

Easily the worst player the Spurs had on the roster. Good riddance.

[spursistan]

We had a nice little thing with Butler going, but then again it is 2016 Pop..

[SAGirl]

Bottom line, yea cutting Butler for Martin was a bad idea Pops, not only bc Martin was terrible and unable to crack the rotation, but adding him so late screwed chemistry up on top. I don't think the bench reached the playoffs playing their best at all, and part of it was the possible distraction of going so mad scientist to tend the season when the Spurs usually want to be playing their best in March and April, not their worst.

[SAGirl]

He should have been picked up by OKC TBH.:lol

[baseline bum]

That's just some dumbass trolling though. Martin was never shit even back in his Sacramento days.

[Sean Cagney]

We had a nice little thing with Butler going, but then again it is 2016 Pop..
TRUTH.

[ViceCity86]

As impactful as Drew Gooden.

[Ice009]

I loved what Butler bought to the team this season and to top it off, he was a really great guy from the sounds of it. Butler's grandfather loved the Spurs and wanted/wished Butler could play for them. An article I read said that he was really happy that Butler made the team. It still doesn't sit well with me that he was cut. I just didn't like any of that situation at all.

Also, as I said before, even if Martin was added, Bonner was the one that should have been cut and moved to the front office. If that fucker Bonner tries to play another season and the Spurs allow it, I might be done with the team (if Tim is not back), and if it's not with the Spurs and he goes to another team, that will piss me off even more that he wasn't cut.

[Chinook]

Eh, Bonner played well after he came back from injury. I understand him hanging on. Martin was just a dumpster fire, and really, no one should have been cut to bring him aboard.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Also, as I said before, even if Martin was added, Bonner was the one that should have been cut and moved to the front office. If that fucker Bonner tries to play another season and the Spurs allow it, I might be done with the team (if Tim is not back), and if it's not with the Spurs and he goes to another team, that will piss me off even more that he wasn't cut.

Bonner will be back. He recently said this after the Spurs-Thunder series:

"I'm going to do everything I can do to keep playing in the NBA. The greatest job on Earth. Being able to play basketball, and do something you love and get paid for it. I'll stay in tip-top shape this summer. Come July hopefully the Spurs come calling."

Link: http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/matt-bonner-on-why-spurs-lost-to-thunder-his-future-with-spurs-the-costume-party-more

[SAGirl]

^^ Yup he has said he wants to keep playing. He's fine being the 15th man in the roster.

[J_Paco]

And people say that Tony Parker fell off quickly. This dude went from a #1 option, border line all-star caliber SG (at least statistically) to a fringe NBA guard in one season. Crazy that the Spurs thought this frail, fragile, choking, Paper Tiger was going to amount to anything off the bench.

As soon as I saw that his best move was a one-handed floater/jumper inside the three - point line (when not going to the line) I knew his time in SA was going to be short.

[HI-FI]

I can honestly say I was never cool with this move, and it felt like a bad omen from the start. I had no problem keeping Bonner, but Butler should not have been cut for Martin. not sure if that was Pop or RC's decision, but it was not good. Didn't really have a problem with getting Andre Miller though.

[TheGreatYacht]

Agreed. Cutting Butler was a TERRIBLE mistake. Should've cut Bonner or Kyle instead

[therealtruth]

It usually takes Pop a year to figure out how to use players. KMart's ability to draw fouls is really an ability the Spurs need especially for the playoffs. It keeps you in games even when shots are not falling so you don't get blown out.

[tholdren]

It usually takes Pop a year to figure out how to use players. KMart's ability to draw fouls is really an ability the Spurs need especially for the playoffs. It keeps you in games even when shots are not falling so you don't get blown out.
THIS is what Martin was brought in for, I thought. It was telling they brought someone like that in - basically says the #1 option on spurs can't get to the line. It was Martin's only ability - so it's strange Pop didnt give him some piece to succeed. He looked like shit from the beginning, and didnt play in the playoffs.

That being said - who cares who was cut for Martin - OBVIOUSLY they wouldn't have played when it mattered since parker, west, anderson were getting minutes. But yep, Martin sucked.

[tholdren]

Easily the worst player the Spurs had on the roster. Good riddance.
Regular season PER

Danny Green 10.5
Kevin Martin 10.1


Playoff PER

Kyle Anderson 7.7
Kevin Martin 6.0

Worst player - yes. Easily - no

[SAGirl]

Regular season PER

Danny Green 10.5
Kevin Martin 10.1


Playoff PER

Kyle Anderson 7.7
Kevin Martin 6.0

Worst player - yes. Easily - no
Easily yes bc both those other guys play defense Martin doesn't.

[tholdren]

Easily yes bc both those other guys play defense Martin doesn't.
kyle anderson plays like shit, and he's ugly

[T Park]

Wasnt a huge fan of him signing, hated cutting Butler for him.

Not a stretch to say had they kept Butler they would have played Golden State.

[tholdren]

Wasnt a huge fan of him signing, hated cutting Butler for him.

Not a stretch to say had they kept Butler they would have played Golden State.
LOLOLOLOLOL

[spursistan]

bump..

Just realized nobody picked up this scrub just yet..He is not even that old, but that's how washed up he is..:lol

[SAGirl]

Forcibly retired like Matt Bonner.

[Chinook]

Spurs not wanting you is the kiss of death, man. There's too strong of a notion that if you can't make it in SA, you can't make it anywhere.

[timtonymanu]

Spurs dropped Rasual Butler for this scrub :lmao

Would have rather had Austin Daye

[ElNono]

Even Jimmer found a job in China, tbh

[Darius Bieber]

still better than Kyle Anderson tbh

[Escawun3]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18137250/kevin-martin-announces-retirement-nba

Kevin Martin retires after 12-season run in league.

[Chinook]

Such a piece-of-shit acquisition.

[dabom]

Fathead is a piece-of-shit acquisition.

[Raven]

Such a piece-of-shit acquisition.

unsurprising.

[spursistan]

Such a piece-of-shit acquisition.

Is this the shittiest off-waiver move made by PATFO?

For quite the numbers and the role he's had throughout, his career must have been so irrelevant and empty that ESPN is defining it as a "run" and in the context another player :lol..

https://s11.postimg.org/p7anri7v7/km1.jpg

[TD 21]

The acquisition made sense to anyone who was not an Anderson fanboy/girl. They desperately needed another proven wing, that could shoot.

People have blown this out of proportion. He struggled, but he also barely played; so let's not act as if he derailed the team.

[cd98]

Spurs dropped Rasual Butler for this scrub :lmao

Would have rather had Austin Daye

Isnt Butler also out of the NBA?

[tholdren]

Such a piece-of-shit acquisition.
not really. Spurs needed a wing that could score. KL couldnt get to the line when it mattered. Why wouldn't you try a vet who made his stay in the nba by getting to the line and getting buckets. Unfortunately he couldnt really play off the ball. he required ISO-ball, and played scared. Should be more of an indictment on the "pros" that the NBA hires. Guy couldnt play sound, fundamental basketball, yet was a great scorer during his prime. NBA is entertainment folks, nothing more.

[Chillen]

Just like Tmac, Pop barely played this guy.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kevin Martin had nothing to do with Rasual Butler getting waived.

Matt Bonner and Kyle Anderson got him cut. Useless pieces of shit

[Darius Bieber]

Kevin Martin had nothing to do with Rasual Butler getting waived.

Matt Bonner and Kyle Anderson got him cut. Useless pieces of shit

[Dre_7]

Butler would not have been the difference maker last year, sorry. LMAO!!!

[spursistan]

In retrospect, Pop burying Simmons for K-Mart was absolutely inexcusable last season ..Should have let J-Simms crash and burn and learn from experience instead of bringing washed-up vets with foot in retirement..There is no fuckin upside with these guys..

This is the thing with Pop, only injuries were going to force his hand to play the young and athletic..And that's probably the only blessing coming from Parker injury with regards to Murray's development next season..

Almost wish D-Lee tweaks an ankle so we can get Bertans/Dedmon play more minutes in the Dubs series..

[tholdren]

In retrospect, Pop burying Simmons for K-Mart was absolutely inexcusable last season ..Should have let J-Simms crash and burn and learn from experience instead of bringing washed-up vets with foot in retirement..There is no fuckin upside with these guys..

This is the thing with Pop, only injuries were going to force his hand to play the young and athletic..And that's probably the only blessing coming from Parker injury with regards to Murray's development next season..

Almost wish D-Lee tweaks an ankle so we can get Bertans/Dedmon play more minutes in the Dubs series..

no. judging by simmons performance this series pop did the right thing.

[SAGirl]

In retrospect, Pop burying Simmons for K-Mart was absolutely inexcusable last season ..Should have let J-Simms crash and burn and learn from experience instead of bringing washed-up vets with foot in retirement..There is no fuckin upside with these guys..

This is the thing with Pop, only injuries were going to force his hand to play the young and athletic..And that's probably the only blessing coming from Parker injury with regards to Murray's development next season..

Almost wish D-Lee tweaks an ankle so we can get Bertans/Dedmon play more minutes in the Dubs series..
I and other said that last season, but bc of the hate for KA guys and/or trolls dismissed that and decided to bandwagon with Martin.
You can find posts here and in the think tank where I was arguing even as mistake prone as Simmons was when he finally got benched last season he was outplaying Martin in the last few games of the year and seemed to bring energy and even scoring in ways martin didn't do... Martin was horrendous.
Anyways, I think Pop learned that lesson at least in terms of knowing that he needed to develop youth again (after he developed the crop that yielded Kawhi, Danny, Mills, Cojo, Tiago, that group... he couldn't just stand pat and continue to rely on TOSB on vet min contracts, and that he had to go back to develop youth again.)

I didn't want Lee this season at all by the way, I knew he would delay development of Spurs prospects that they need going forward and there was no upside to Lee.
He's been much better than expected, but Pop has probably still over-relied on him. He is certainly given more opportunities or chances than younger guys who get pulled at the slightest thing.

[MaNu4Tres]

Simmons was the better player. Unfortunate he couldn't get burn last year in the playoffs.

Kevin Martin was atrocious. Worst buy out addition Spurs have ever had. Even Drew Gooden was better.

[Joseph Kony]

Was T-mac bought out before signing with SA? mofo never even scored as a spur :lol