religion of peace again

[Axl Rose]

I don't understand how people can be pro- "Religious freedom" and anti- Muslims.
It's easy, I'm pro religious freedom and any type of freedom towards those who reciprocate those same sentiments. If not then you're not cut out to participate in our society and those elements need to be contained and removed.

[Blake]

yeah but christians by in large have reformed past that. when was the last time you saw a mass attack in the name of christ?



You're implying Muslims "by in large" haven't reformed past mass attacks.

But you'll say you're not doing that and round and round you'll go per par etc

[Blake]

It's easy, I'm pro religious freedom and any type of freedom towards those who reciprocate those same sentiments. If not then you're not cut out to participate in our society and those elements need to be contained and removed.

So you're pro religious freedom unless the religion is Islam.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Terror attacks being foiled 'every single day' in France, prime minister says



A radicalized French teenager had been planning to carry out a knife attack at a popular weekend spot for families and tourists, investigators said.The 15-year-old, already on a high-security threat list, was arrested on Saturday, one week after French police prevented an attack in central Paris by a group of female Islamic State (http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/islamic-state-ORCIG000120-topic.html) followers who tried to blow up a car filled with gas bottles.



French Prime Minister Manuel Valls (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics-government/manuel-valls-PEGPF00140-topic.html) warned on Sunday that the terrorist threat was at its “maximum” level and said France’s security forces were “foiling attacks every single day.”

The unnamed youth was arrested at his home near the Coulée Verte, a “green corridor” walkway in Paris similar to New York’s High Line, where detectives allege he was planning to stab random passers-by last weekend.


Detectives told French media the youth admitted he wanted to be killed by the police and “die a martyr.” However, one officer told L’Express magazine that his evidence was “confused” and he was later said to have withdrawn his statements.
The teenager had already been under house arrest at his family home in the 12th arrondissement of the French capital for the last five months, as part of the state of emergency introduced in France following the November 2015 attacks. He was detained in April 2016 and questioned about alleged plans to travel to join Islamic State in Syria.


Police reported that he had been in contact with Rachid Kassim, a French jihadi who is fighting with Islamic State in Syria. Kassim has also been linked to the killer of two police officers in a Paris suburb in June and two men who cut the throat of a Catholic priest in Normandy in July. In both cases, the terrorists were killed by police.


Investigators are attempting to unravel the network around Kassim, whose members communicated using the heavily encrypted message system Telegram. They believe Kassim, who uses the pseudonym Ibn Qassim, has been directing the recent terror attack (http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/terrorism/paris-terrorist-attacks-EVCAL00076-topic.html) attempts in France from his Islamic State hideout in Syria.


“The women, our sisters, went into action. Where are our brothers?” Kassim posted on Telegram after the women were arrested last week, according to French media. “Where are the men?…You have to understand that if these women went into action, it’s because so few men are doing anything … why are you waiting so long to the point the woman are overtaking you in terms of honor?”

Five French women between 16 and 39 are in police custody being questioned about the latest terrorist plots. One, Ornella Gilligmann, 29, a mother of three young children, has been charged over the failed attack near Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on Sept. 3. Gilligmann was also known to French intelligence services after allegedly trying to travel to Syria.


Gilligmann was arrested after her fingerprints were found in an abandoned Peugeot 607 car containing five gas cylinders, three bottles of diesel and a lighted cigarette 300 feet from the busy cathedral courtyard. The car’s license plates had been removed and it was parked with its emergency lights flashing. Two women fled the scene after failing to set the car alight.


On Thursday last week, police arrested three more women: Ines Madani, whose father owned the Peugeot, and two others named only as Sarah H, age 23, and Amel S, age 39. The 16-year-old daughter of Amel S was arrested later.
French public prosecutor Francois Molins said in a televised news conference last week that the women were “determined.” He said Sarah H had been engaged to Larossi Abballa, 25, who killed a police commander and his partner, also a police officer, in front of their infant son in June. After Abballa was killed in that attack, she became engaged to Adel Kermiche, 19 — before he was also shot dead while participating in the killing of a priest in Normandy a month later.


The three women were confronted by police as they left a flat in the suburbs of Paris, allegedly on their way to carry out another attack at the Gare de Lyon station. During the arrest, one of the women stabbed a police officer with a kitchen knife. Madani allegedly jumped on another and tried to stab him. In Madani’s handbag, detectives say they found the keys to the Peugeot 607 and a note pledging allegiance to Islamic State.


On Sunday, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said the threat of a terrorist attack remained “maximum.”
“We have seen this the last few days, the last few hours, and even as I speak,” Valls said in a televised interview.


“Every day, the intelligence services, the police, gendarmes, are foiling attacks, unraveling Iraqi-Syrian networks. The threat today is maximum and we are a target, everyone understands that.”
Valls said 700 French jihadis were believed to be fighting with Islamic State in Syria, among them more than 200 women. French intelligence services were watching 15,000 people suspected of being radicalized.


http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-france-terrorism-20160912-snap-story.html

[whitemamba]

nowhere near the numbers though

Would you like to see the numbers?

[Blake]

nowhere near the numbers though

The number of Islamic terrorists is an issue for you until you say it's not.

Pick a lane

[Blake]

Terror attacks being foiled 'every single day' in France, prime minister says



A radicalized French teenager had been planning to carry out a knife attack at a popular weekend spot for families and tourists, investigators said.The 15-year-old, already on a high-security threat list, was arrested on Saturday, one week after French police prevented an attack in central Paris by a group of female Islamic State (http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/islamic-state-ORCIG000120-topic.html) followers who tried to blow up a car filled with gas bottles.



French Prime Minister Manuel Valls (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics-government/manuel-valls-PEGPF00140-topic.html) warned on Sunday that the terrorist threat was at its “maximum” level and said France’s security forces were “foiling attacks every single day.”

The unnamed youth was arrested at his home near the Coulée Verte, a “green corridor” walkway in Paris similar to New York’s High Line, where detectives allege he was planning to stab random passers-by last weekend.


Detectives told French media the youth admitted he wanted to be killed by the police and “die a martyr.” However, one officer told L’Express magazine that his evidence was “confused” and he was later said to have withdrawn his statements.
The teenager had already been under house arrest at his family home in the 12th arrondissement of the French capital for the last five months, as part of the state of emergency introduced in France following the November 2015 attacks. He was detained in April 2016 and questioned about alleged plans to travel to join Islamic State in Syria.


Police reported that he had been in contact with Rachid Kassim, a French jihadi who is fighting with Islamic State in Syria. Kassim has also been linked to the killer of two police officers in a Paris suburb in June and two men who cut the throat of a Catholic priest in Normandy in July. In both cases, the terrorists were killed by police.


Investigators are attempting to unravel the network around Kassim, whose members communicated using the heavily encrypted message system Telegram. They believe Kassim, who uses the pseudonym Ibn Qassim, has been directing the recent terror attack (http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/terrorism/paris-terrorist-attacks-EVCAL00076-topic.html) attempts in France from his Islamic State hideout in Syria.


“The women, our sisters, went into action. Where are our brothers?” Kassim posted on Telegram after the women were arrested last week, according to French media. “Where are the men?…You have to understand that if these women went into action, it’s because so few men are doing anything … why are you waiting so long to the point the woman are overtaking you in terms of honor?”

Five French women between 16 and 39 are in police custody being questioned about the latest terrorist plots. One, Ornella Gilligmann, 29, a mother of three young children, has been charged over the failed attack near Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on Sept. 3. Gilligmann was also known to French intelligence services after allegedly trying to travel to Syria.


Gilligmann was arrested after her fingerprints were found in an abandoned Peugeot 607 car containing five gas cylinders, three bottles of diesel and a lighted cigarette 300 feet from the busy cathedral courtyard. The car’s license plates had been removed and it was parked with its emergency lights flashing. Two women fled the scene after failing to set the car alight.


On Thursday last week, police arrested three more women: Ines Madani, whose father owned the Peugeot, and two others named only as Sarah H, age 23, and Amel S, age 39. The 16-year-old daughter of Amel S was arrested later.
French public prosecutor Francois Molins said in a televised news conference last week that the women were “determined.” He said Sarah H had been engaged to Larossi Abballa, 25, who killed a police commander and his partner, also a police officer, in front of their infant son in June. After Abballa was killed in that attack, she became engaged to Adel Kermiche, 19 — before he was also shot dead while participating in the killing of a priest in Normandy a month later.


The three women were confronted by police as they left a flat in the suburbs of Paris, allegedly on their way to carry out another attack at the Gare de Lyon station. During the arrest, one of the women stabbed a police officer with a kitchen knife. Madani allegedly jumped on another and tried to stab him. In Madani’s handbag, detectives say they found the keys to the Peugeot 607 and a note pledging allegiance to Islamic State.


On Sunday, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said the threat of a terrorist attack remained “maximum.”
“We have seen this the last few days, the last few hours, and even as I speak,” Valls said in a televised interview.


“Every day, the intelligence services, the police, gendarmes, are foiling attacks, unraveling Iraqi-Syrian networks. The threat today is maximum and we are a target, everyone understands that.”
Valls said 700 French jihadis were believed to be fighting with Islamic State in Syria, among them more than 200 women. French intelligence services were watching 15,000 people suspected of being radicalized.


http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-france-terrorism-20160912-snap-story.html

Should France make Islam illegal?

[Axl Rose]

So you're pro religious freedom unless the religion is Islam.
So far they are the only totalitarian religion that I know of so yeah

[TheSanityAnnex]

Should France make Islam illegal?

No.

Let me save you some typing


So you what do you want to do about Islam?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Would you like to see the numbers?

I would like to see the numbers of murders/attacks being committed in the name of religion by non-Muslims

[spurraider21]

You're implying Muslims "by in large" haven't reformed past mass attacks.

But you'll say you're not doing that and round and round you'll go per par etc
MuslimS are not a religion. They are practitioners of islam, a religion, which I think is inherently fine and has a place in the world.

I've been consistent time and time again and you've misconstrued it time and time again

[Spurminator]

It's easy, I'm pro religious freedom and any type of freedom towards those who reciprocate those same sentiments. If not then you're not cut out to participate in our society and those elements need to be contained and removed.

So if someone believes the tenets of their religion should be imposed on everyone, you believe they should be removed.

[spurraider21]

Would you like to see the numbers?
I would love to. I would also warn that regarding this topic, there should be a differentiation between crimes carried out in the name of a religion/diety and crimes that have been committed for various reasons by somebody who happens to belong to that religion.

The number of Islamic terrorists is an issue for you until you say it's not.

Pick a lane
Did I ever say it wasn't?

[whitemamba]

I would like to see the numbers of murders/attacks being committed in the name of religion by non-Muslims

Easy answer , 0, because they are portraying themselves as muslims, when everything they do is against their religious law. You understand that terrorism goes back further than 50 years right?


I would love to. I would also warn that regarding this topic, there should be a differentiation between crimes carried out in the name of a religion/diety and crimes that have been committed for various reasons by somebody who happens to belong to that religion.

Did I ever say it wasn't?

Then exactly what I said above, to sanity, the answer is 0. Because you are born into islam that doesnt make you a good muslim, and proper muslims dont do what terrorists are doing. So blaming the entire religion of 1.7 billion is ridiculous. They middle east has been occupied by europe and the west since the invasion of the ottoman empire.Arabs were in the middle east before white people.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Easy answer , 0, because they are portraying themselves as muslims, when everything they do is against their religious law. You understand that terrorism goes back further than 50 years right?



Then exactly what I said above, to sanity, the answer is 0. Because you are born into islam that doesnt make you a good muslim, and proper muslims dont do what terrorists are doing. So blaming the entire religion of 1.7 billion is ridiculous. They middle east has been occupied by europe and the west since the invasion of the ottoman empire.Arabs were in the middle east before white people.

Here was what I wanted to see.


in 2016 , today there are other peoples commiting crimes, and violence in the name of religion that are not muslim.

Show me the numbers

[Blake]

No.

Let me save you some typing

You could have spent that typing on an answer

[Blake]

MuslimS are not a religion.

Lolwut. You're too far all over the place and this semantic tangent is just retarded.

[Blake]

I would love to. I would also warn that regarding this topic, there should be a differentiation between crimes carried out in the name of a religion/diety and crimes that have been committed for various reasons by somebody who happens to belong to that religion.

Did I ever say it wasn't?


Saying Islam is fine but we need separate Islam terrorists from others is talking out of both sides of your mouth.

But keep saying it's not and go round some more tho.

[spurraider21]

Saying Islam is fine but we need separate Islam terrorists from others is talking out of both sides of your mouth.

But keep saying it's not and go round some more tho.
islam is fine. carrying out terrorist acts in the name of islam is not fine. unfortunately, we see this frequently in modern times

christianity is fine. carrying out terrorist acts in the name of christianity is not fine. fortunately, we don't see this frequently in modern times

[spurraider21]

Lolwut. You're too far all over the place and this semantic tangent is just retarded.
its not semantics to separate the religion from the practitioners of the religion

[spurraider21]

Easy answer , 0, because they are portraying themselves as muslims, when everything they do is against their religious law. You understand that terrorism goes back further than 50 years right?



Then exactly what I said above, to sanity, the answer is 0. Because you are born into islam that doesnt make you a good muslim, and proper muslims dont do what terrorists are doing. So blaming the entire religion of 1.7 billion is ridiculous. They middle east has been occupied by europe and the west since the invasion of the ottoman empire.Arabs were in the middle east before white people.
i never blamed the religion of 1.7 billion. i never said muslims are bad. i never said every crime committed by a person of muslim faith is "muslim terorrism." there's a difference between a muslim person committing a crime vs a muslim person committing a crime in the name of his religion

[Blake]

its not semantics to separate the religion from the practitioners of the religion

That doesn't make any sense to do that. It serves no productive purpose.

[whitemamba]

i never blamed the religion of 1.7 billion. i never said muslims are bad. i never said every crime committed by a person of muslim faith is "muslim terorrism." there's a difference between a muslim person committing a crime vs a muslim person committing a crime in the name of his religion
But they are not muslim my dude, thats my point, they are just shit head terrorists being paid by someone. They do not represent Islam by any means, therefore you cant say muslims are committing crimes in the name of islam. It would be nice to hear someone say, terrorists are using islam in a negative view, and making muslims look bad. I have no problem with any religion, I have read into all the major ones, none condone violence, or death of innocence. Its the shit people that make it bad. Every religion has people that has made them the rest look bad.

[spurraider21]

But they are not muslim my dude, thats my point, they are just shit head terrorists being paid by someone. They do not represent Islam by any means, therefore you cant say muslims are committing crimes in the name of islam. It would be nice to hear someone say, terrorists are using islam in a negative view, and making muslims look bad. I have no problem with any religion, I have read into all the major ones, none condone violence, or death of innocence. Its the shit people that make it bad. Every religion has people that has made them the rest look bad.
they are shithead muslims, as opposed to the much more common, peaceful muslims

how can you actually claim to know their beliefs in contrast to what they claim? thats ridiculous

[whitemamba]

they are shithead muslims, as opposed to the much more common, peaceful muslims

how can you actually claim to know their beliefs in contrast to what they claim? thats ridiculous
Because if violence is what they are preaching , it's not Islam , I'm not saying I personally know them bro ; I'm just saying what they are justifying as jihad might as well be another religion. Idk if they are brainwashed or motivated by loved ones being killed , regardless it's not correct l.

[spurraider21]

Because if violence is what they are preaching , it's not Islam , I'm not saying I personally know them bro ; I'm just saying what they are justifying as jihad might as well be another religion. Idk if they are brainwashed or motivated by loved ones being killed , regardless it's not correct l.
might as well be. how but come in modern times, it almost always just the one? coincidence?

do you think the sick fucks carrying out the spanish inquisition were not really christians? and they "might as well be" something else?

[Splits]

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Fucking Sunni vs. Shia again? Animals!

[Blake]

I have read into all the major ones, none condone violence, or death of innocence.

That's false.

[Trill Clinton]

775878706069987329

Fucking Sunni vs. Shia again? Animals!

this reminds me. the hashtag #neverforgetseptember11 was trending on twitter. i did not know about all the random attacks on innocent muslims that happened after 9/11

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[Blake]

they are shithead muslims, as opposed to the much more common, peaceful muslims

how can you actually claim to know their beliefs in contrast to what they claim? thats ridiculous

How can you claim to know their true beliefs just because they claim they are Muslim? Ridiculous.

[spurraider21]

How can you claim to know their true beliefs just because they claim they are Muslim? Ridiculous.
:rolleyes

if he's from a predominately muslim region, with a common muslim name, claims he is muslim, pledges allegiance to the islamic state, and kills himself while shouting about how great his god is, i think we have a decent picture.

i'm reading the picture they have painted of themselves, not pretending to know otherwise

[Blake]

:rolleyes

if he's from a predominately muslim region, with a common muslim name, claims he is muslim, pledges allegiance to the islamic state, and kills himself while shouting about how great his god is, i think we have a decent picture.

i'm reading the picture they have painted of themselves, not pretending to know otherwise

K, why is it important to know their motives are of a religious nature again?

[spurraider21]

K, why is it important to know their motives are of a religious nature again?
its the topic of this thread tbh

[Avante]

Has anyone here ever took the time to actually read the Koran and find out just who Mohammad was?

If you have then how in the world can you not get the violence situation? Killing those you cannot convert is Islam. That word ....punish...is all over the Koran. Punish those who won't join you in your religious beliefs, that is Islam, that was also Mohammad.

It's a vile and vicious load of crap.

So much of this sort of thing out there, why?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-yJp4EcZJA

How many people have to be killied , how much blood shed does it take before people figure this out? And it's all there in the Koran.


ViolenceDoes the Quran really contain over a hundred verses promoting violence?

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called (http://www.spurstalk.com/quran/noble/sura3.html#167) 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

[Blake]

Avante is a broken record stuck on the B side

[Blake]

its the topic of this thread tbh

I'm asking you. Why is important to you.

[Avante]

I'll ask again, why is it I could post an article a video talking about the violence in Islam everyday for 10 years? Well?

[Blake]

I'll ask again, why is it I could post an article a video talking about the violence in Islam everyday for 10 years? Well?

You're too stupid to waste an answer on

[Avante]

How sad is it to watch this Blake queer? So stupid, so weak, so annoying. I don't even talk to this idiot and here he is STILL humping my leg. What a worm.

[Blake]

:cry

[Avante]

ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~

Why is it I can post some article/video talking about violence and Islam everyday for the next 10 years, well? I own 24 books talking about violence and Islam and I didn't search them out, they were just there at thrift stores, yard sales.

Why is there so much out there talking about this stuff, well?

Mohammad lied about his encounterr with the Angel Gabriel in that cave on the mountain, we all know this. So Islam was just his idea and he was a murderer. We all know that. His Koran is nothing more than kill kill punish chop burn....unless you do what Mohammad wants. And it's so damn obvious.

[boutons_deux]

Christian crusading America invaded Muslim countries? What the ONGOING death toll for Christians and their imperial wake of death?

Or did Muslim countries invade America? What's the ongoing death toll for Muslims, and esp for Muslims killing non-Muslims?

[Avante]

Christian crusading America invaded Muslim countries? What the ONGOING death toll for Christians and their imperial wake of death?

Or did Muslim countries invade America? What's the ongoing death toll for Muslims, and esp for Muslims killing non-Muslims?

Answer my question, why do we see so much out there talking about violence in Islam?

Tons of this stuff, why?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZiJehMXBpQ

[Splits]

Hate Crimes Against American Muslims Most Since Post-9/11 Era
By ERIC LICHTBLAUSEPT. 17, 2016


WASHINGTON — Hate crimes against American Muslims have soared to their highest levels since the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, according to data compiled by researchers, an increase apparently fueled by terrorist attacks in the United States and abroad and by divisive language on the campaign trail.


The trend has alarmed hate crime scholars and law-enforcement officials, who have documented hundreds of attacks — including arsons at mosques, assaults, shootings and threats of violence — since the beginning of 2015.


While the most current hate crime statistics from the F.B.I. are not expected until November, new data from researchers at California State University, San Bernardino, found that hate crimes against American Muslims were up 78 percent over the course of 2015. Attacks on those perceived as Arab rose even more sharply.


Police and news media reports in recent months have indicated a continued flow of attacks, often against victims wearing traditional Muslim garb or seen as Middle Eastern.


Some scholars believe that the violent backlash against American Muslims is driven not only by the string of terrorist attacks in Europe and the United States that began early last year, but also by the political vitriol from candidates like Donald J. Trump, who has called for a ban on immigration by Muslims and a national registry of Muslims in the United States.


“We’re seeing these stereotypes and derogative statements become part of the political discourse,” said Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the San Bernardino campus. “The bottom line is we’re talking about a significant increase in these types of hate crimes.”


He said that the frequency of anti-Muslim violence appeared to have increased immediately after some of Mr. Trump’s most incendiary comments.


The latest major episode of anti-Muslim violence came last weekend, when an arsonist on a motorcycle started a fire that engulfed the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, Fla., where Omar Mateen — the gunman in the June massacre at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando — had sometimes prayed.


The police, who called the attack “a terrible tragedy” for the community, arrested a local man who had criticized Islam in social media postings.


The arson, along with an earlier assault on a congregant outside the mosque and other episodes there, has left worshipers scared, said Mohammed Malik, 43, a businessman who has attended the mosque for nearly a decade.


“There is a lot of negative rhetoric,” he said. “The negative rhetoric is causing the hate, and in turn the hate is causing the violent acts.”


The new study from Mr. Levin’s nonpartisan group, based on official police reports in 20 states, estimated that there were about 260 hate crimes against Muslims nationwide in 2015.


That was the most since the record 481 documented hate crimes against Muslims in 2001, when the Sept. 11 attacks set off waves of crimes targeting Muslims and Middle Easterners, Mr. Levin said. The huge increase last year was also the biggest annual rise since 2001, he said.


The rise came even as hate crimes against almost all other groups — including blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays and whites — either declined or increased only slightly, his study found. One exception was hate crimes against transgender people, which rose about 40 percent.


The statistics almost certainly understate the extent of the problem, researchers say, because victims are often reluctant to report attacks for fear of inflaming community tensions, and because it is sometimes difficult for investigators to establish that religious, ethnic or racial hatred was a cause.


In the killing last year of three Muslim students in Chapel Hill, N.C., for instance, the authorities did not bring hate crime charges against a neighbor who is charged with murdering them, despite calls from Muslims who said there were religious overtones to the violence. The police said that a parking dispute, not bigotry, may have led to the killings.


Sometimes, the evidence is more clear-cut.


“I hate ISLAM!” a former Marine named Ted Hakey Jr. wrote to a friend on Facebook after last November’s terrorist attacks in Paris. Hours later, in a drunken rampage, he fired a high-powered rifle four times into the mosque next door to his Connecticut home.


Last month, an apologetic Mr. Hakey began a six-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to a hate crime charge.


In Brooklyn, two women out walking their children in strollers were attacked this month, the police said, by a woman who screamed anti-Muslim obscenities and tried to rip off their traditional veils. And in Queens, a man was beaten in April by three strangers who shouted “ISIS, ISIS.”


In Minneapolis, a man shouting obscenities about Islam shot two Muslim men in traditional religious garb in June, the authorities said.


In St. Louis, a man was arrested in February after the police said he pointed a gun at a Muslim family shopping on his block and told them they “all should die.”


Last month, an imam in Queens and his assistant were shot and killed execution-style on the sidewalk. The authorities have charged a 35-year-old man in the attack but have not determined a motive or whether it should be treated as a hate crime.


The increase in reports of apparent hate crimes has worried Justice Department officials.


“We saw it after 9/11, and we continue to see an uptick in allegations of hate-related incidents today following the tragic events over the past year,” said Vanita Gupta, who leads the Justice Department’s civil rights division.


“We see criminal threats against mosques; harassment in schools; and reports of violence targeting Muslim-Americans, Sikhs, people of Arab or South-Asian descent and people perceived to be members of these groups,” Ms. Gupta said.


The Justice Department has moved to draw public attention to the problem and marshal resources to combat it as part of a broader effort against religious discrimination.


A number of experts in hate crimes said they were concerned that Mr. Trump’s vitriol may have legitimized threatening or even violent conduct by a small fringe of his supporters.


In a few cases, people accused of hate crimes against Muslims and others have even cited Mr. Trump.


The police here in Washington released a videotape in May of a woman who reportedly poured liquid on a Muslim woman after berating Islam and declaring that she was going to vote for Mr. Trump so that he could “send you all back where you came from.”


On Thursday, Hillary Clinton charged that Mr. Trump had “incited violence” in a campaign marked by “bigotry” and “hatred.”


Mr. Trump’s supporters say that he has never endorsed violence against any minorities, and some conservatives have challenged data showing an increase in violence against American Muslims as a creation of liberal-leaning researchers.


Mr. Trump has said he is not responsible for any violence by his supporters.


“They’re not angry about something I’m saying,” he said on “Meet the Press” in March. “I’m just a messenger. The people are angry about the fact that, for 12 years, the workers in this country haven’t had a pay increase.”


James Nolan, a former F.B.I. crime analyst who teaches about hate crimes at West Virginia University, said that the data seemed to show “a real spike” in hate crimes against American Muslims, caused in part by candidates’ “raising the specter that radical Islam is at our doorstep.”


Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups and extremism, went further.


“I don’t have the slightest doubt that Trump’s campaign rhetoric has played a big part” in the rising attacks, he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/us/politics/hate-crimes-american-muslims-rise.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/us/politics/hate-crimes-american-muslims-rise.html
Jews still have more hate crimes committed against them, where is your outrage?

[Spurminator]

Jews still have more hate crimes committed against them, where is your outrage?

It's possible to be outraged by both, but this is a thread about Muslims.

[Spurminator]

Jews still have more hate crimes committed against them, where is your outrage?

I mean, do you really want to start a "But what about []?" line of argument, because we could just start posting every crime committed by gun owners.

[z0sa]

Conservative Islam of the type practiced in many ME countries is completely anti thetical to the western ideal of a secular democratic republic, at least on paper (we are only barely getting beyond laughable in that department). Christianity suffers the exact same pitfalls; the difference is, secular influences and the love of country (and money) have muddied the waters of this side of the Dardanelles for hundreds of years now. If you can imagine plopping the denizens and culture of the Holy Roman Empire of the Dark Ages into today's west, no doubt those "Christians" would be just as jolted by the culture shock and just as averse to the way we treat women, allow "pagans" the same rights as believers, guarantee free speech and votes for people other than baptized property owners, etc.

Dare I say a holy war or 'crusade' might even be called for..

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's possible to be outraged by both, but this is a thread about Muslims.
Splits is not outraged by both.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I mean, do you really want to start a "But what about []?" line of argument, because we could just start posting every crime committed by gun owners.
You'd be called a racist for posting gun crime stats.

[Spurminator]

Splits is not outraged by both.

How do you know?


You'd be called a racist for posting gun crime stats.

Probably not, but I'm guessing I'd be bombarded with a few pages of NRA stats and semantic arguments.

[SnakeBoy]

Facebook post on Islam leads to Jordanian atheist writer Nahed Hattar’s murder
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-post-on-islam-jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-murder/

[TSA]

http://i.imgur.com/4uFU6n7.jpg

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/europe/uk-westminster-parliament-shooting.html?_r=1

U.K. Parliament Attacker Is Shot; Panic on Westminster Bridge

LONDON — Britain’s Parliament was placed on lockdown on Wednesday, plunging the country’s seat of power into turmoil, after an assailant stabbed a police officer outside the building before he was shot, and a motorist on an adjacent bridge plowed over at least five pedestrians, killing at least one.

The Metropolitan Police described the attack as a “a terrorist incident,” but many details, as well as the sequence of events, remained unclear. Security officers shot the assailant outside Parliament. But it was not yet known whether the assailant was the same person who ran over the pedestrians on the bridge. The police also responded to reports of a person in the River Thames.

The attack came on the anniversary of suicide bombings at the Brussels airport in Zaventem and a subway station that killed 32 people, along with three bombers. Though the authorities did not immediately identify the assailant in the attack on Parliament, the violence raised fears that London, which has been largely spared as a target of recent terrorist attacks, has now joined cities such as Paris, Brussels and Berlin.

Ambulances and other emergency vehicles thronged the scene, and helicopters flew ahead, as one of the busiest sections of London was cordoned off and evacuated. The Westminster station on the Tube, London’s subway system, was closed. Prime Minister Theresa May was rushed into a vehicle and spirited back to her office, where her aides reported that she was safe.

“A full counterterrorism investigation is underway,” Cmdr. B. J. Harrington of the Metropolitan Police said at a brief news conference, at which he pleaded with members of the public to stay away from a broad section of central London, to report any suspicious activity and to share any images or video of the violence.

Commander Harrington said that the police knew of “a nubmer of casualties, including police officers,” but that he could not confirm a precise figure. He also said that the acting police commissioner, Craig Mackey, was at the scene of the attack, was not injured, but was “being treated as a significant witness.”

Throughout the afternoon, astonished lawmakers inside the House of Commons, some of whom had ducked for cover, were told to stay in place as officers searched the premises, office by office.

“At the moment, the very clear advice from the police and the director of security in the house is that we should remain under suspension, and that the chamber should remain in lockdown until we’ve received advice that it is safe to go back to normal procedures,” David Lidington, the leader of the House of Commons, or lower house of Parliament, told lawmakers in remarks broadcast live on the BBC.

Olly Grender, a member of the House of Lords, said that lawmakers were staying put. “We were in a meeting, I heard shouting through the window,” she said, adding that a colleague then came in to tell them that a serious incident had taken place.

The police said officers had been summoned to the bridge around 2:40 p.m. because of reports of “a firearms incident.” Witnesses said they had heard gunfire near Portcullis House, an office building for lawmakers and members of their staff.

Jayne Wilkinson, 59, from Birmingham, England, was near the statue of Winston Churchill in Parliament Square with her partner, David Turner, 56, when they saw people suddenly running from Parliament.

The couple said they had seen a middle-aged man holding a knife. He ignored warnings from the police, running though the gates into the compound of Parliament, she said.

“They were shouting to warn him,” Ms. Wilkinson said. Soon after, she and her partner heard three gunshots and saw the man on the ground.

Three construction workers who were inside the grounds of Westminster Palace said they heard shots fired in rapid succession before they were escorted off the premises. “It was bang-bang-bang,” one of them said.

Reuben Saunders, an American student at Cambridge University who was visiting Parliament, said he was on his way out of the building when he saw a police officer being attacked by the assailant.

“He was at the gate, I heard screaming,” Mr. Saunders said, adding that the assailant had two knives or similar weapons. “I saw the man on the ground being repeatedly stabbed, or pummeled,”

“There was another policeman standing by,” he added. “I thought he should have shot, but maybe he was unarmed.”

Mr. Saunders said that two or three other police officers arrived and, at that point, he retreated. “There were two or three gunshots,” he said.

Corinne Desray, a teacher who was outside Parliament with 39 teenage students on a three-day school trip from northern France, said they heard three shots. “My colleague saw bodies lying on the floor and someone said a policeman has been knived,” she said. “I told the kids to leave quickly. We’re heading back to the bus.”

Kirsten Hurrell, 70, who owns a newsstand opposite the clock tower known as Big Ben, said she saw a car swerve across a bicycle lane and into a fence around Parliament. She saw a body lying on the ground and called emergency services. “At first I thought it was an accident but then I was told the car had already mowed down quite a number of people on Westminster Bridge,” she said, adding: “Now that it is a terrorist incident, it is a bit more daunting.”

Robert Vaudry, 52, a fund manager from Stratford-upon-Avon, England, said he emerged from the Westminster subway station around 2:40 p.m. for a meeting with a lawmaker when he realized that something was amiss.

“I came out of the Tube and there were two armed policemen,” he said in an interview. “One grabbed my arm, pushed me to the left and said, ‘Get out of here,’ ” he said. “They were shouting at everyone to get away.”

As he spoke, police officers were cordoning off the area. One officer shouted, “We need everyone to move back past Downing Street.”

Christopher Hope, a journalist for The Daily Telegraph, reported at 2:41 p.m. that he had heard shots fired outside Parliament.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Facebook post on Islam leads to Jordanian atheist writer Nahed Hattar’s murder
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-post-on-islam-jordanian-writer-nahed-hattar-murder/

Not defending the jihadis' actions, but what kind of retard lives in the Middle East when they're openly atheist?

[Blake]

Tsa, who was the attacker

[TSA]

Tsa, who was the attacker

Some muzzy. Did you miss the picture?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Some muzzy. Did you miss the picture?

But the picture is a chinky not a muzzy!

[TSA]

But the picture is a chinky not a muzzy!

Don't be fooled by the British media calling them Asians, they've been doing it for years.


http://sikhsiyasat.net/2014/08/29/sikh-body-accuse-mainstream-uk-media-for-ignoring-push-to-abandon-throwaway-term-asian/

[TSA]

Tsa, who was the attacker

Since you haven't been back I assume you also thought he was Asian :rollin

[Blake]

Since you haven't been back I assume you also thought he was Asian :rollin

He looks black. At the time you posted, i couldn't find confirmation of who it was

[SnakeBoy]

Still no name?

[spurraider21]

Still no name?considering the british law enforcement says they believe he was inspired by isis propaganda it's a pretty safe bet he's an arab muslim

[SnakeBoy]

considering the british law enforcement says they believe he was inspired by isis propaganda it's a pretty safe bet he's an arab muslim

Let's not jump to conclusions

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Conservative Islam of the type practiced in many ME countries is completely anti thetical to the western ideal of a secular democratic republic, at least on paper (we are only barely getting beyond laughable in that department). Christianity suffers the exact same pitfalls; the difference is, secular influences and the love of country (and money) have muddied the waters of this side of the Dardanelles for hundreds of years now. If you can imagine plopping the denizens and culture of the Holy Roman Empire of the Dark Ages into today's west, no doubt those "Christians" would be just as jolted by the culture shock and just as averse to the way we treat women, allow "pagans" the same rights as believers, guarantee free speech and votes for people other than baptized property owners, etc.

Dare I say a holy war or 'crusade' might even be called for..

Main difference is that Jesus is quoted as saying "Give unto Rome what is unto Rome and give unto God what is unto God." And then of course Paul bent over for the Romans in an effort to get them to accept the religion he was pimping. Not surprising given his history really.

Meanwhile, Muhammad clearly describes a system of laws and justice that all are to follow. There is no analog as Jesus was killed before he could dictate his orthodoxy. Muhammad made it through the early conquering of Mecca and Medina and had to establish laws. Jesus presided over small social gatherings as he building his followers and then hiding from the Romans and Jewish Orthodox.

The HRE just took Justinian's code of laws and applied it to the Church. It's what made Aquinas a big deal. That was actually quite a bit more liberal than the orthodoxy previous to that. The Crusades was more about kings wanting to loot former and current Byzantium than it was religion. They sacked Constantinople after all in the first one. It increased papal power but was not derived from it. From that point they fought over Antioch and Judea over land rights. As time when on Papal power increased but what prevented them from getting their asses kicked moreso was the Mongols who annihilated the Abbasids in the 11th century.

The divine right of kings wasn't really pushed until the renaissance when people wanted to form parliaments. There are examples of the crown choosing kings but much more often it was them capitulating to various Gothic, Germanic, and Hunnic tribesmen who had kicked their ass throughout the former western roman empire.

[boutons_deux]

"Dare I say a holy war or 'crusade' might even be called for...."


The headlines this month have been alarming.

“Steve Bannon’s obsession with a dark theory of history should be worrisome” (Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/book-steve-bannon-is-obsessed-with-the-fourth-turning-2017-2)).

“Steve Bannon Believes The Apocalypse Is Coming And War Is Inevitable” (the Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-apocalypse_us_5898f02ee4b040613138a951)).

“Steve Bannon Wants To Start World War III” (the Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/steve-bannon-wants-to-start-world-war-iii/)).

A common thread in these media reports is that President Trump’s chief strategist is an avid reader and that the book that most inspires his worldview is “The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767900464?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&linkCode=xm2&creativeASIN=0767900464).”


I wrote that book with William Strauss back in 1997. It is true that Bannon is enthralled by it.


https://medium.com/emergent-culture/and-fear-no-darkness-7079dc86d5f4#.9p3kuep81

"World" War? what countries in the world would be opponents?

Other than US/UK BigOil lusting after Iran's oil, I can't see "world" war.

[lefty]

:lol Trump is losing ground so he orders attacks in European countries

[Splits]

844708389808689152

[Splits]

844728655125340160

[pgardn]

Now we are after Iran's oil. So we make rules about centrifuges to separate uranium.

Got it.

[boutons_deux]

844708389808689152

just a lone wolf, all white people don't have to answer for him, while ALL Muslims have to answer for Muslim extremists

Trash actually excluded white terrorist militias from his definition of terrorism, which is now only Muslim terrorism

=============

fucking slave states, again

Virginia Republicans demand apology from state attorney general for visiting a mosque
Muslim Americans are frequently expected to answer for the crimes that people commit in the name of Islamhttps://thinkprogress.org/virginia-gop-mark-herring-apology-mosque-visit-b49b9ad3121e#.x84w64kgy

[pgardn]

844728655125340160

Was the the purpose of these killings to try and terrorize a country by killings as many people as possible randomly?
Is a major target of these killings airports because they know people are terrified of going down in a plane? Would these same people be happy with taking out a nuclear facility in any country as an act of redemption for purposes of an afterlife?

Yep people are dead, but the intent is slightly different most likely. Many are usually carried out by younger male individuals that are very confused about their purpose and or a bit of paranoia.

[Splits]

844900666837516288

[boutons_deux]

:lol Trump is losing ground so he orders attacks in European countries

some kind of domestic attack and Trash and his generals declare martial law

[spurraider21]

just a lone wolf, all white people don't have to answer for him, while ALL Muslims have to answer for Muslim extremists
you LIE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH48vUfWUAAVD5D.png

[TSA]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/st-petersburg-metro-explosion-russia-bomb-attack-casualties-blue-line-a7664251.html

Russia attack: Police hunt two suspects after at least 10 dead killed in St Petersburg metro bombing

[DarrinS]

Stockholm

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/07/truck-plows-into-crowd-outside-swedish-shopping-area-report.html

[Blake]

So what do you guys want to do about Islam

[boutons_deux]

So what do you guys want to do about Islam

Christian Taliban are a much larger menace to the USA and the planet than Muslim terrorists

[tlongII]

Christian Taliban are a much larger menace to the USA and the planet than Muslim terrorists

:rolleyes

[rjv]

very little being mentioned about the fact that the policemen who prevented further violence by stopping the suicide bomber outside St. Mark's were muslim.

[rmt]

Detroit physician charged with mutilating girls’ genitalia

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/13/doctor-charged-genital-mutilation/100416734/

[spurraider21]

Christian majority nation drops massive bomb in Muslim country

[clambake]

thats where the bad guys are.

[Blake]

Christian majority nation drops massive bomb in Muslim country

Religion of peace again

[tlongII]

Christian majority nation drops massive bomb in Muslim country

That's how you take out tunnels.

[Blake]

That's how you take out tunnels.

You could also fill the tunnels up with bibles

[Fabbs]

You could also fill the tunnels up with bibles
Or with split pea soup.

[Avante]

There will come a time where nobody will be defending Islam any longer. We are seeing less and less of this...

just a few radicals
the Bible is violent

...already.


The Middle East is about as backwards thinking as it gets in todays world, and a lot off Muslims can't figure out all that....death to infidels....was written for a different time another world. So we see primtive thinkers.

Everyone who knows the history of those counties knows about the constant conflict and violence, that is simply how they live there.

Some scholars think Mohammad was bipolar.

[johnsmith]

There will come a time where nobody will be defending Islam any longer. We are seeing less and less of this...

just a few radicals
the Bible is violent

...already.


The Middle East is about as backwards thinking as it gets in todays world, and a lot off Muslims can't figure out all that....death to infidels....was written for a different time another world. So we see primtive thinkers.

Everyone who knows the history of those counties knows about the constant conflict and violence, that is simply how they live there.

Some scholars think Mohammad was bipolar.


Lol....you're so smart avante.

[Pelicans78]

Detroit physician charged with mutilating girls’ genitalia

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/13/doctor-charged-genital-mutilation/100416734/

Sorry to burst your bubble, but she's not Muslim.

[TSA]

RIP French cop

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124978/islamophobe-191742.JPG

[rmt]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but she's not Muslim.

According to the below, she is Muslim.

All three are accused of trying to keep the practice secret within their Indian-Muslim community, according to the indictment.
Authorities claim the trio have been part of a female genital mutilation scheme since 2005 and there could be a number of other young victims.
The trio have denied any wrongdoing.
They are all part of the Dawoodi Bohra community, which is a Gujarati-speaking Muslim sect concentrated mostly in India. The group has a mosque in suburban Detroit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4451786/Three-charged-genital-mutilation-two-young-girls.html

[Adam Lambert]

according to daily mail? lol no shit so was obama

[monosylab1k]

Explosions at an Ariana Grande concert in England. Multiple fatalities. Unfortunately I think we all know where this is headed.

[spurraider21]

it was clearly planned parenthood feminists/soros protesters

[baseline bum]

Sounds like a suicide bomber outside the arena

[tlongII]

Trump's fault obviously.

[spurraider21]

Trump's fault obviously.only if other attacks were obama's fault

[UNT Eagles 2016]

only if other attacks were obama's fault

Neither. EU's fault for being a sieve for the last 40 years

[Capt Bringdown]

Islam is the enemy of humanity.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Islam is the enemy of humanity.
Agreed. Maybe it took some British millennial blood to be spilled at the wrath of this malice for the rest of this generation to wake up and understand this.

[Quadzilla99]

Agreed. Maybe it took some British millennial blood to be spilled at the wrath of this malice for the rest of this generation to wake up and understand this.

What's the solution then?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

What's the solution then?

Inquisition throughout all free countries willing to participate. Deport, give them their choice of middle east country to move to, or imprison-and-starve if they refuse. 1300s-1400s Spanish Inquisition style. The prisoners may be used for science and biomedical experimentation.

Radical or not, it was a huge positive point in history because it not only saved Spain and West Europe from the deadly embrace of Islam but it also meant that Muslims weren't coming over to the Americas in the post-Columbus colonial period.

It must happen. And NO MORE GODDAMN IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES FROM ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY. If we want to trade oil with them that's fine, but NO immigrants.

[Quadzilla99]

Lol.

[Will Hunting]

This wouldn't have happened if Trump wasn't too much of a pussy to say RADICAL ISLAM RADICAL ISLAM RADICAL ISLAM :madrun

[Trill Clinton]

866711448411570176

[TSA]

https://i.redd.it/9oj490sbc5zy.jpg

[boutons_deux]

866711448411570176

the Nazis had plans, radioactive materials for bomb making.

Obviously, Fox will be all over this like they did with New Black Panthers.

[AaronY]

866711448411570176

Oh, ok.

[AaronY]

Inquisition throughout all free countries willing to participate. Deport, give them their choice of middle east country to move to, or imprison-and-starve if they refuse. 1300s-1400s Spanish Inquisition style. The prisoners may be used for science and biomedical experimentation.

Radical or not, it was a huge positive point in history because it not only saved Spain and West Europe from the deadly embrace of Islam but it also meant that Muslims weren't coming over to the Americas in the post-Columbus colonial period.

It must happen. And NO MORE GODDAMN IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES FROM ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY. If we want to trade oil with them that's fine, but NO immigrants.
Seems plausible.

[boutons_deux]

‘It’s early to make this political’: Shep Smith slams ex-CIA head for using Manchester attack to criticize Obama

“I think radical Islamists have decided to pick up the pace with the terrorist attacks and I think we’ll probably see some more,” Woolsey continued.

“And we now have a president who is pretty straightforward that he is at war with them. He’s not going to soft-peddle that, he calls them evil.”

“And we haven’t had a situation like that,” he added.

“We did not have, in the eight years of the Obama administration, a president who wanted to fight and win a war.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/its-early-to-make-this-political-shep-smith-slams-ex-cia-head-for-using-manchester-attack-to-criticize-obama/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

but dubya and dickhead wanted to fight a criminal war, two of them, and LOST BOTH OF THEM, neocon, blood-thirsty WOOLSEY.

[Spurminator]

https://i.redd.it/9oj490sbc5zy.jpg

That's certainly a provocative statement, but I have a few questions.

When did he say that and in what context?

Do you have a link to the actual quote and context?

Why did you only post a screenshot?

Do you think we're stupid?

[monosylab1k]

https://i.redd.it/9oj490sbc5zy.jpg

Rubio said the exact same shit.

:cry "It was just Orlando's turn" :cry

[Spurminator]

Alt-right Twitter and Reddit gleefully and opportunistically using the deaths of 20 people to create animosity against London's anti-Trump mayor by misattributing a quote from September.

I understand why the bots would do it, it's how actual people with actual consciences can do it that confuses me.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

866711448411570176

Not a Muslim, just a retarded 18 year old with a bad temper and thought of the first radical idea he could think of that came to his head to use as an excuse to fuck up shit because he was mad at things. He's probably regretting his antics now and trying to find a way to kill himself.

[Trainwreck2100]

Islam is the enemy of humanity.

humanity is the enemy of humanity

[Blake]

humanity is the enemy of humanity

So are bears

[Avante]

I talked about this 10 years ago and got all that lame shit...

only a few radicals
what about the crusades

...ha~~~

How much more do we have to see? How many people have to die over this sick shit?


Mohammad was a fucking killer, his followers are killers, that's if they are true dickheads like him. Islam is fucked up and only a fool wouldn't see this.

I own a Koran, talk about a load of...PUNISH KILL FIRE BURN PUNISH PUNISH CHOP KILL PUNISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......is all over the place, page after page of violence. And nowhere in the book is there any talk of 72 virgins, just more stupid shit like everything that is Islam.

How could anyone with even half a brain buy into this shit?

Time to dump this fucking disease, yep, get rid of it.

Now watch some idiot try to defend this sickness, wow~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't think I'll even play the game with the dummies this time. Just watch how many times this thread gets bumped up because of Islamic violence. Yep, CONSTANTLY~~~~~~~~

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I talked about this 10 years ago and got all that lame shit...

only a few radicals
what about the crusades

...ha~~~

How much more do we have to see? How many people have to die over this sick shit?


Mohammad was a fucking killer, his followers are killers, that's if they are true dickheads like him. Islam is fucked up and only a fool wouldn't see this.

I own a Koran, talk about a load of...PUNISH KILL FIRE BURN PUNISH PUNISH CHOP KILL PUNISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......is all over the place, page after page of violence. And nowhere in the book is there any talk of 72 virgins, just more stupid shit like everything that is Islam.

How could anyone with even half a brain buy into this shit?

Time to dump this fucking disease, yep, get rid of it.

Now watch some idiot try to defend this sickness, wow~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't think I'll even play the game with the dummies this time. Just watch how many times this thread gets bumped up because of Islamic violence. Yep, CONSTANTLY~~~~~~~~
72 virgins is in the hadith, or the "new testament" or "supplemental" books of Islam written by Imams over the centuries that claim to be descendants of friends or family of Muhammad. The Qu'ran is essentially Genesis up to Muhammad.

[Blake]

I talked about this 10 years ago and got all that lame shit...

only a few radicals
what about the crusades

...ha~~~

How much more do we have to see? How many people have to die over this sick shit?


Mohammad was a fucking killer, his followers are killers, that's if they are true dickheads like him. Islam is fucked up and only a fool wouldn't see this.

I own a Koran, talk about a load of...PUNISH KILL FIRE BURN PUNISH PUNISH CHOP KILL PUNISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......is all over the place, page after page of violence. And nowhere in the book is there any talk of 72 virgins, just more stupid shit like everything that is Islam.

How could anyone with even half a brain buy into this shit?

Time to dump this fucking disease, yep, get rid of it.

Now watch some idiot try to defend this sickness, wow~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't think I'll even play the game with the dummies this time. Just watch how many times this thread gets bumped up because of Islamic violence. Yep, CONSTANTLY~~~~~~~~

You're too much of a fat pussy to say that to a Muslim in real life.

[boutons_deux]

America, the country of peace :lol

America, the country of extremely low gun deaths :lol

America, the country of extremely low infant/mother mortality :lol

America, the country where health care is a right :lol

America, the broken, declining country that can't fix it own shit but thinks it can fix other countries' shit (for profit).

[Trill Clinton]

Oh, ok.
Crazy huh?

Not a Muslim, just a retarded 18 year old with a bad temper and thought of the first radical idea he could think of that came to his head to use as an excuse to fuck up shit because he was mad at things. He's probably regretting his antics now and trying to find a way to kill himself.

Being a white supremacist wasn't radical enough?

[lefty]

Mmm


Attacks happening after Trash's speech

What a coincidence tbh

[TSA]

That's certainly a provocative statement, but I have a few questions.

When did he say that and in what context?

Do you have a link to the actual quote and context?

Why did you only post a screenshot?

Do you think we're stupid?

Do I think you're stupid? No.
Lazy? Yes

all the information you wanted was in the screenshot

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/new-york-explosion-sadiq-khan-says-terror-attacks-are-part-and-parcel-of-life-in-a-big-city-a3347891.html

[spurraider21]

Do I think you're stupid? No.
Lazy? Yes

all the information you wanted was in the screenshot

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/new-york-explosion-sadiq-khan-says-terror-attacks-are-part-and-parcel-of-life-in-a-big-city-a3347891.htmlso you dont think your post was misleading in the slightest?

[TSA]

so you dont think your post was misleading in the slightest?

How would it be misleading?

[Spurminator]

Do I think you're stupid? No.
Lazy? Yes

all the information you wanted was in the screenshot

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/new-york-explosion-sadiq-khan-says-terror-attacks-are-part-and-parcel-of-life-in-a-big-city-a3347891.html

The date is virtually illegible in your screenshot, which was obviously intentional on the part of whatever shithead posted it to the Reddit pro-Trump echo chamber you get so much of your material from. And no, the context of the statement is not in the screenshot.

Why are you intentionally dishonest?

[TSA]

The date is virtually illegible in your screenshot, which was obviously intentional on the part of whatever shithead posted it to the Reddit pro-Trump echo chamber you get so much of your material from. And no, the context of the statement is not in the screenshot.

Why are you intentionally dishonest?
I'm on a phone and I can clearly read the date in the screenshot. Stop trying to attribute your poor eye sight and laziness to someone being dishonest.

[TSA]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-named-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande

Suicide bomber named. No surprises.

[Spurminator]

I'm on a phone and I can clearly read the date in the screenshot. Stop trying to attribute your poor eye sight and laziness to someone being dishonest.

:lol

So basically, yes, you think we're stupid.

But feel free to elaborate on why you felt that screenshot from a September article was worth posting. What is it you're trying to convey here? (You can cut and paste rationale from the comments on r/The_Donald if it helps.)

[spurraider21]

https://i.redd.it/9oj490sbc5zy.jpg


What is the significance of this, in your own words please.

[TSA]

Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

[Spurminator]

Khan, who is expected to meet New York mayor Bill de Blasio later today at an event with Muslim community leaders, said attacks were "part and parcel" of life in a big city.

"It is a reality I'm afraid that London, New York, other major cities around the world have got to be prepared for these sorts of things," he said.

"That means being vigilant, having a police force that is in touch with communities, it means the security services being ready, but also it means exchanging ideas and best practice."

He added: "I've had a sleepless night thinking about all of this and I'm sure the Mayor has as well."

Not sure how those statements from September become ironic when that person's city is attacked by a terrorist. Elaborate?

[spurraider21]

Not sure how those statements from September become ironic when that person's city is attacked by a terrorist.because khan is muslim and a terrorist sympathizer who's response to terrorism is simply

https://m.popkey.co/49a20c/1Z968.gif

[rjv]

http://i.imgur.com/taj3b38.gif

[Avante]

If somebody posts here after every vicious/violent act coming from Islam, it wIll never leave the first page, NEVER~~~~

I think all Muslims should have to either denounce the religion???? or leave the USA.

[spurraider21]

:lol

[hater]

Saddest thing about this is USA fostered, nurtured and helped radical islam become what it is in the 80s and 90s by helping and creating Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and then in Kosovo

[hater]

We were al qaedas birth mothers in Afghanistan and their holy air force in the Balklans

[Pelicans78]

Saddest thing about this is USA fostered, nurtured and helped radical islam become what it is in the 80s and 90s by helping and creating Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and then in Kosovo

Nah. It started with the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Radicalized the entire region by having a theocracy in power and eventually funding the first suicide bombers with Hezbollah.

[boutons_deux]

Nah. It started with the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Radicalized the entire region by having a theocracy in power and eventually funding the first suicide bombers with Hezbollah.

The Iranian Revolution was the Iranians revolting against the US/UK-installed hated, brutal Shah after the CIA overthrew democratically elected Mossadegh in 1953 to keep Mossadegh from nationalizing Anglo-Iranian oilco.

"Bannon's War", PBS, shows that Bannon thinks Muslims are attacking the West, but he's not smart enough to see that the West invaded, occupied, corrupted, resource-extracted Muslim countries first.

[MultiTroll]

Numb Nutts U.s. media leaking UK bombing info early, compromising investigation.
Way to tip off hiding radical UnIslamic dumbfucks who helped the bomber.
I hope Trump rips them a new one.
Also ban live press briefings at White House. Just give written statements.
Dog n pony show providing jobs for losers.

[rmt]

Numb Nutts U.s. media leaking UK bombing info early, compromising investigation.
Way to tip off hiding radical UnIslamic dumbfucks who helped the bomber.
I hope Trump rips them a new one.
Also ban live press briefings at White House. Just give written statements.
Dog n pony show providing jobs for losers.

Poor Brits - welcome to the norm in the world of Trump.

You know I thought the election cycle was crazy, but it's nothing compared to what's happening now. What is wrong with these leakers and media? Is a story more important than compromising capturing these nut-jobs?

[Splits]

868545474294415360

[tlongII]

868545474294415360

And your point is?

[BanditHiro]

And your point is?

Radical Alt-Right Conservatives are the biggest terror threat in America right now.

[tlongII]

Radical Alt-Right Conservatives are the biggest terror threat in America right now.

Well that's bullshit.

[Trill Clinton]

Well that's bullshit.

no its fax. alt right- white supremacists are terrorizing members of our military too. they are dangerous and need to be stopped.

866456232781119488

[BanditHiro]

Y'all Qaeda trying to spread their Christian Sharia Law in America

[monosylab1k]

Y'all Qaeda trying to spread their Christian Sharia Law in America

Y'all Qaeda :lol

[Quadzilla99]

Y'all Qaeda trying to spread their Christian Sharia Law in America

Rofl

[TSA]

868545474294415360

Has Bernie Sanders condemned his supporter?

[Adam Lambert]

Has Bernie Sanders condemned his supporter?

sounds like he was a bernie supporter that went full retard after hillary got the nom and went all-in on trump.

you know, like you did.

[TSA]

sounds like he was a bernie supporter that went full retard after hillary got the nom and went all-in on trump.

you know, like you did.

He went so all in on Trump he couldn't vote for him.

Quick research before spouting off would suit you well.

[spurraider21]

He went so all in on Trump he couldn't vote for him.

Quick research before spouting off would suit you well.didnt he have some quote about "if trump is hitler, i want to join the SS" or somethin along those lines :lol

[Adam Lambert]

He went so all in on Trump he couldn't vote for him.

did you vote for trump?

[TSA]

did you vote for trump?

Nope

[Adam Lambert]

Nope

exactly

[TSA]

exactly

Exactly what?

[Adam Lambert]

sounds like he was a bernie supporter that went full retard after hillary got the nom and went all-in on trump.

you know, like you did.

[spurraider21]

He went so all in on Trump he couldn't vote for him.
he's implying that you are describing yourself here... somebody who is demonstrably all in on trump and yet didn't vote for him

[TSA]

he's implying that you are describing yourself here... somebody who is demonstrably all in on trump and yet didn't vote for him

That would have worked had he known the guy never voted for Trump as his OP implied.

[Th'Pusher]

Kasich was TSA's man :lol He hasn't dislodged Donald's cock from his mouth since November 8th.

[Th'Pusher]

:lol Kasich

[Th'Pusher]

:lol gun control

[TSA]

:lol primary smack

[Th'Pusher]

Do you think Trump is doing a good job TSA?

[Adam Lambert]

That would have worked had he known the guy never voted for Trump as his OP implied.

do you have his voting record?

i believe its entirely possible for someone to claim online they didnt vote for trump even though the entirety of their existence seems to be devoted to semen soldiering on his behalf. i believe these kinds of people will claim they didnt vote for trump because its the only sliver of credibility they can cling to, but no person this obsessively pro-trump in every aspect of his life would have ever resisted the urge to vote trump and stick it to the pc sjw libs at the voting booth.

regardless of his claim, its pretty obvious he voted for trump

you know, like you.

[spurraider21]

:lol Kasich
you prefer trump to kasich?

[spurraider21]

do you have his voting record?

i believe its entirely possible for someone to claim online they didnt vote for trump even though the entirety of their existence seems to be devoted to semen soldiering on his behalf. i believe these kinds of people will claim they didnt vote for trump because its the only sliver of credibility they can cling to, but no person this obsessively pro-trump in every aspect of his life would have ever resisted the urge to vote trump and stick it to the pc sjw libs at the voting booth.

regardless of his claim, its pretty obvious he voted for trump

you know, like you."i dont support trump, but [insert defense of trump]"

[Adam Lambert]

and super lmao at 4channity trying to scoreboard me for not researching this asshole as much as he did

[DarrinS]

868545474294415360


Why Is the Media Branding the Portland Train Stabber a Trump Supporter? He’s Not

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/why-is-the-media-branding-this-portland-hate-crime-murder-suspect-a-trump-supporter-hes-not/

[Trill Clinton]

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[spurraider21]

Why Is the Media Branding the Portland Train Stabber a Trump Supporter? He’s Not

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/why-is-the-media-branding-this-portland-hate-crime-murder-suspect-a-trump-supporter-hes-not/"If Donald Trump is the next Hitler then I am joining his SS"

[DarrinS]

"If Donald Trump is the next Hitler then I am joining his SS"

He tried to pass himself off that way. Rejected by Trumpers tho

warning: NSFW (language)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTvkBM9MIWg

[spurraider21]

He tried to pass himself off that way. Rejected by Trumpers tho

warning: NSFW (language)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTvkBM9MIWgguy 1 says he would join trump's SS. trump supporters dont like him.

so that means guy 1 isn't a real trump supporter

[DarrinS]

guy 1 says he would join trump's SS. trump supporters dont like him.

so that means guy 1 isn't a real trump supporter

"In a post three days after the inauguration of Donald Trump, Christian posted, "If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question."

On that same day Christian, who shows support for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on his Facebook page, posted a death threat about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/30/portland-train-stabbing-suspect/353963001/

[spurraider21]

"In a post three days after the inauguration of Donald Trump, Christian posted, "If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question."

On that same day Christian, who shows support for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on his Facebook page, posted a death threat about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/30/portland-train-stabbing-suspect/353963001/yes im aware he was a bernie guy until the nominations

do you think hostility towards muslims is trait that is bred from sanders' campaign or trump's?

[DarrinS]

yes im aware he was a bernie guy until the nominations

do you think hostility towards muslims is trait that is bred from sanders' campaign or trump's?

I think the dude is just nuts, tbh.

[spurraider21]

I think the dude is just nuts, tbh.agreed whole heartedly. now answer the question

[Splits]

Why Is the Media Branding the Portland Train Stabber a Trump Supporter? He’s Not

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/why-is-the-media-branding-this-portland-hate-crime-murder-suspect-a-trump-supporter-hes-not/

Why are you quoting me? The article I posted didn't mention Trump.

[Adam Lambert]

"In a post three days after the inauguration of Donald Trump, Christian posted, "If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question."

On that same day Christian, who shows support for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on his Facebook page, posted a death threat about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/30/portland-train-stabbing-suspect/353963001/

he hates hillary? oh, clearly not a trump supporter then.........

[DarrinS]

he hates hillary? oh, clearly not a trump supporter then.........

http://gotnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/threatens-anyone-who-votes-for-Trump-or-Hillary.png

[spurraider21]

http://gotnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/threatens-anyone-who-votes-for-Trump-or-Hillary.png
and about a 10 days later...

https://i.gyazo.com/9cb4bc29b97076e98f443be90a0223bb.png

i think we can all agree he's a moonbat. but do you think his anti-islam sentiments were echoed more in the trump or bernie campaigns, if any?

[TSA]

http://gotnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/threatens-anyone-who-votes-for-Trump-or-Hillary.png

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1000/1*5IXcM1VbNzP6PpOrufefGg.jpeg

all in for Trump :lol

[TSA]

and about a 10 days later...

https://i.gyazo.com/9cb4bc29b97076e98f443be90a0223bb.png

i think we can all agree he's a moonbat. but do you think his anti-islam sentiments were echoed more in the trump or bernie campaigns, if any?

he was beyond moonbat IMO

https://medium.com/@JasonTLouis/portland-attacker-jeremy-christian-was-a-bernie-supporter-e8a7938405c7

[DarrinS]

Dude was faking

http://animeright.news/upload/media/entries/2017-05/28/517-3-ac4d5e060abeebda202bd469c4408ad0.jpg

[spurraider21]

he was beyond moonbat IMO

https://medium.com/@JasonTLouis/portland-attacker-jeremy-christian-was-a-bernie-supporter-e8a7938405c7
i agree that he was beyond moonbat. i'm not saying this was the fault of a politician.

but when people ascribe his hostility/violence towards muslims to trump... ask yourself which politician during the last election cycle showed the most anti-islam sentiment. the particular action he took has nothing to do with taxes, the 1%, free trade, free speech, the clinton foundation, minimum wage, black lives matter, etc... it was about his views towards muslims. how would you tie that sentiment to sanders or his campaign?

[spurraider21]

Dude was faking

http://animeright.news/upload/media/entries/2017-05/28/517-3-ac4d5e060abeebda202bd469c4408ad0.jpg
i guess the murders were a fake plot in the name of free speech too :lol

[DarrinS]

i agree that he was beyond moonbat. i'm not saying this was the fault of a politician.

but when people ascribe his hostility/violence towards muslims to trump... ask yourself which politician during the last election cycle showed the most anti-islam sentiment.



You're not, but you are. :lol

[spurraider21]

You're not, but you are. :lolyou're asking why people think he's a trump supporter. i'm explaining why based on the actions he is known for, it's a logical assumption. i'm not suggesting that trump is responsible. the killer isn't known because of his views on citizens united or tax policies... which is why bernie sanders is irrelevant to the discussion

anytime somebody commits a horrible act, it doesn't mean every group he is tangentially related to is responsible. if a guy kills his family, we dont say "omg, he worked for General Motors. they're so fucking evil!" or "omg the guy went to college! they brainwashed him!" But when the act is related to the message or purpose of a group, that's when people start drawing parallels and connecting dots, its a natural thing to do imo. so if a black dude kills a white dude, i dont think as much of it because the circumstances are unknown. if the black dude was constantly posting online about how he wants white people to suffer, wants to kill white people for revenge for an injustice... then that becomes a story

of course, as aarony said in another thread, people nowadays have the tendency of looking at every piece of news and analyzing it from the perspective of left vs right... so that adds fuel to the fire as well

[lefty]

Lol Trump ordering terrorist attacks thinking we'll stop focusing on his failures

[DarrinS]

you're asking why people think he's a trump supporter. i'm explaining why based on the actions he is known for, it's a logical assumption. i'm not suggesting that trump is responsible. the killer isn't known because of his views on citizens united or tax policies... which is why bernie sanders is irrelevant to the discussion


It's a false narrative that the MSM will try and push. Mayor of Portland now calling for two right-wing rallies to be canceled.

It's fake news.

[Spurminator]

I don't see a lot of media outlets spinning him as a Trump supporter and I'm not really sure why it matters if he was or wasn't.

His initial actions seem to stem from the desire to "shock" people with his non-PC opinions and bait them into reacting. I don't think either Trump or Sanders espouses that strategy, but it's not far off from the stuff you see from alt-right 4chan/Reddit/Russian shitposters.

Then he murdered two people who reacted. I'm not aware of anyone even in the shittiest corners of the troll world who advocates that.

[spurraider21]

It's a false narrative that the MSM will try and push. Mayor of Portland now calling for two right-wing rallies to be canceled.

It's fake news.
show me msm outlets blaming trump. show me the fake news

[DarrinS]

show me msm outlets blaming trump. show me the fake news

Not blaming Trump, per se, but pushing a false narrative that he's a right winger. When it's been shown that he was rejected by a pro-Trump rally.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77WkGwNpjVs

[spurraider21]

they start the piece with trump denouncing him :lol

thats your fake news blaming trump? thats them "not blaming trump, per se"

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GJNIjSxFtk

[TSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GJNIjSxFtk

Tim Poole has come a long ways from his SJW days on the ground in Ferguson.

[Chucho]

Of course he was a Bernie supporter- spineless pussy who wanted to take someone else's life when he should have taken his own. I guess he's a cuckold by association and taking conspired Ls too.

[boutons_deux]

Portland Murder Suspect Calls Stabbings ‘Patriotism’ In First Court Appearance


http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/592dfb161400001f0047fea3.jpeg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-stabbing-arraignment_us_592def7ae4b0e95ac194cd5b?ncid=inbln kushpmg00000009&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20053117&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20053117+CID_b49 94e6d8208bff8b44c147c03050fd1&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=called%20the%20stabbings%20patriotism&ncid=newsltushpmgnewsThe%20Morning%20Email%2005311 7

[Avante]

Before this thread hits bottom there will be some reason to bump it up. I have confidence in Islam.

[boutons_deux]

Before this thread hits bottom there will be some reason to bump it up. I have confidence in Islam.

Avante knows the "bottom" very well, he or she dwells there.

[Chucho]

Avante knows the "bottom" very well, he or she dwells there.

Perfect for you two clowns.

http://www.sinfest.net/btphp/comics/2003-03-16.gif

[RandomGuy]

Not blaming Trump, per se, but pushing a false narrative that he's a right winger. When it's been shown that he was rejected by a pro-Trump rally.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77WkGwNpjVs

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist


Dude is about as right-wing as it gets. You don't like the nutty fringe of the right-wing, but it is there, just like the nutty end of the left is.

I don't think the narrative is "false" so much as one you just don't like to admit, because you can't admit people on your end of the ideological spectrum might (gasp) do/say stupid/evil things.

[RandomGuy]

Christian is a known right wing extremist and white supremacist. On April 29, Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters. The bat was quickly confiscated by Portland police officers. He ranted how he was a nihilist. He'd soon yelled racial slurs ("fuck all you n*****s") and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day. He yelled "Hail Vinland" throughout the day.

A few Portland police officers on April 29 appeared to be familiar with Christian, but not threatened by him. They claimed he had a head injury and was mentally ill.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.facebook.com/events/2003513036544033/

Seems about as right wing as it gets. This is the event that nutbar with brain damage showed up to, literally draped in the American flag.

[RandomGuy]

pushing a false narrative that he's a right winger.


The No True Scotsman (NTS) fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when a debater defines a group such that every group member possess some quality. For example, it is common to argue that "all members of [my religion] are fundamentally good", and then to abandon all bad individuals as "not true [my-religion]-people". This can occur in two ways:
1.During argument, someone re-defines the group in order to exclude counter-examples. Instead of backing down from "all group members are X" to "most group members are X", the debater simply redefines the group.[2][3]
2.Before argument, someone preemptively defines some group such that the group definitionally must be entirely "good" or entirely "bad". However, this definition was created arbitrarily for this defensive purpose, rather than based on the actual qualities of the group.[4]

NTS can be thought of as a form of inverted cherry picking, where instead of selecting favourable examples, you reject unfavourable ones. The NTS fallacy paves the path to other logical fallacies, such as letting the "best" member of a group represent it. Thanks to these remarkable qualities, the NTS fallacy is a vital tool in the promotion of denialism.

In short: Both arguers should agree on a definition and stick to it.

"He can't be a right-winger, because [right-wingers can't be crazy]"

Is that what you are trying for here?

[TSA]

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist


Dude is about as right-wing as it gets. You don't like the nutty fringe of the right-wing, but it is there, just like the nutty end of the left is.

I don't think the narrative is "false" so much as one you just don't like to admit, because you can't admit people on your end of the ideological spectrum might (gasp) do/say stupid/evil things.

Tell us more about the right-wing hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.

[RandomGuy]

Tell us more about the right-wing hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.


Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters.

[TSA]

RandomGuy you've got a lot of catching up to do concerning Christian

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy you've got a lot of catching up to do concerning Christian

Not sure I have the time bandwidth. It is mildly fun to play the "right/left wing" dance, but bottom line is the dude appears to be a bit brain-damaged. In all fairness neither side gets to claim his dumb ass for that reason.

Far more productive, IMO, to outline the case of how immoral the right is when you get people on the right saying things like "the children of poor people should be allowed to starve to death rather than have any government assistance".

or, for that matter, a complete hypocritical silence on the part of the Republican leadership on calls for that dude in Montana to resign for physically assaulting a reporter.

[Adam Lambert]

Tell us more about the right-wing hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.

he probably only liked bernie because of his stance on guns like you

what specific parts of bernies platform do you think drove christian to stab two people who confronted him for harassing muslims?

i predict you wont answer this question

[TSA]

he probably only liked bernie because of his stance on guns like you

what specific parts of bernies platform do you think drove christian to stab two people who confronted him for harassing muslims?

i predict you wont answer this question

It's a stupid fucking question. Are you stupid enough to think 100% of Bernie supporters are not racist?

[Adam Lambert]

It's a stupid fucking question. Are you stupid enough to think 100% of Bernie supporters are not racist?

:lol who ever said that? im just trying to figure out why you and your russian troll friends are so desperate to make this sound like it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset.

anti-muslim is anti-muslim. they exist everywhere. but its driven by and most common with trump people like you.

[TSA]

:lol who ever said that? im just trying to figure out why you and your russian troll friends are so desperate to make this sound like it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset.

anti-muslim is anti-muslim. they exist everywhere. but its driven by and most common with trump people like you.

I don't see a single person here saying it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset. What I see are people asking how it was driven by a right wing mindset when it is apparent the guy was a mentally unstable hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.

[spurraider21]

I don't see a single person here saying it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset. What I see are people asking how it was driven by a right wing mindset when it is apparent the guy was a mentally unstable hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter who said if Trump was Hitler then he would join his SS.people aren't calling an attack directed towards muslims a product of a leftist mindset because i dont know of any leftist message that calls for hostility towards muslims.

[Adam Lambert]

I don't see a single person here saying it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset. What I see are people asking how it was driven by a right wing mindset when it is apparent the guy was a mentally unstable hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.

islamophobia is a right wing mindset. those people sometimes still vote for left wing candidates.

west virginia is full of racist democrats.

[TSA]

people aren't calling an attack directed towards muslims a product of a leftist mindset because i dont know of any leftist message that calls for hostility towards muslims.

Why are you trying to sneak in quotes to my post? If you have something to say just say it.

The same guy who said if Trump was Hitler he would join the SS also said he couldn't and didn't vote for Trump, along with calling for the death of both Trump and Hillary.

You guys are trying to pigeonhole a dude with severe mental issues and look foolish.

[TSA]

islamophobia is a right wing mindset. those people sometimes still vote for left wing candidates.

west virginia is full of racist democrats.

Islamaphobia is just a mindset, much like racism.

[spurraider21]

Why are you trying to sneak in quotes to my post? If you have something to say just say it.

The same guy who said if Trump was Hitler he would join the SS also said he couldn't and didn't vote for Trump, along with calling for the death of both Trump and Hillary.

You guys are trying to pigeonhole a dude with severe mental issues and look foolish.i already did say that (read pgs 23-24 of this thread)... i decided to add it to your quote too just for fun.

i already said (at the end of page 23 and start of page 24) that im not blaming trump/republicans for what happened. but in response to "why do people call this a right wing attack" i address that point in full

[Adam Lambert]

Islamaphobia is just a mindset, much like racism.

a tribal conservative mindset that tends to benefit conservative politicians, right good talk

[TSA]

i already did say that (read pgs 23-24 of this thread)... i decided to add it to your quote too just for fun.

i already said (at the end of page 23 and start of page 24) that im not blaming trump/republicans for what happened. but in response to "why do people call this a right wing attack" i address that point in full

Please provide exact quote #'s so I can verify.

[spurraider21]

i agree that he was beyond moonbat. i'm not saying this was the fault of a politician.

but when people ascribe his hostility/violence towards muslims to trump... ask yourself which politician during the last election cycle showed the most anti-islam sentiment. the particular action he took has nothing to do with taxes, the 1%, free trade, free speech, the clinton foundation, minimum wage, black lives matter, etc... it was about his views towards muslims. how would you tie that sentiment to sanders or his campaign?


you're asking why people think he's a trump supporter. i'm explaining why based on the actions he is known for, it's a logical assumption. i'm not suggesting that trump is responsible. the killer isn't known because of his views on citizens united or tax policies... which is why bernie sanders is irrelevant to the discussion

anytime somebody commits a horrible act, it doesn't mean every group he is tangentially related to is responsible. if a guy kills his family, we dont say "omg, he worked for General Motors. they're so fucking evil!" or "omg the guy went to college! they brainwashed him!" But when the act is related to the message or purpose of a group, that's when people start drawing parallels and connecting dots, its a natural thing to do imo. so if a black dude kills a white dude, i dont think as much of it because the circumstances are unknown. if the black dude was constantly posting online about how he wants white people to suffer, wants to kill white people for revenge for an injustice... then that becomes a story

of course, as aarony said in another thread, people nowadays have the tendency of looking at every piece of news and analyzing it from the perspective of left vs right... so that adds fuel to the fire as well

[TSA]

You could have forged those just like you did earlier when adding the Hitler SS to my quote. Please provide the exact quote #'s so I can verify.

[spurraider21]

You could have forged those just like you did earlier when adding the Hitler SS to my quote. Please provide the exact quote #'s so I can verify.
or you could just click on them and it will redirect you to the original post, you shithead

[Splits]

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[Chris]

Another attack...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3717339/london-bridge-attack-car-police-response-latest/

This is the EU sending in their thugs in retaliation for Brexit so they come crawling back for help. This is the Hegelian Dialectic in action

[spurraider21]

Another attack...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3717339/london-bridge-attack-car-police-response-latest/

This is the EU sending in their thugs in retaliation for Brexit so they come crawling back for help. This is the Hegelian Dialectic in actionlink?

[Chris]

link?

It's a theory breh; I could link you to deez nuts if you want :lol Watch the 1 and a half hour video in my sig some day and wake up (or get woke whatever you kids are saying these days)

[spurraider21]

It's a theory breh; I could link you to deez nuts if you want :lol Watch the 1 and a half hour video in my sig some day and wake up (or get woke whatever you kids are saying these days)i have sigs disabled, but sounds like a globalist/nwo conspiracy video, presumably with spooky music

edit: just checked ur profile and i was spot on :lmao... brought to you by the youtube channel that promotes alien conspiracies, moon landing truthers, and evolution debunking

[Chris]

i have sigs disabled, but sounds like a globalist/nwo conspiracy video, presumably with spooky music

edit: just checked ur profile and i was spot on :lmao... brought to you by the youtube channel that promotes alien conspiracies

fuck those other vids...this one is on point...it's a history lesson you won't get in school :tu

[spurraider21]

fuck those other vids...this one is on point...it's a history lesson you won't get in school :tu
for good reason. the closest thing to a controlling globalist nwo thing we ever had was the church... and that's long gone as a dominant establishment :tu

[Adam Lambert]

It's a theory breh; I could link you to deez nuts if you want :lol Watch the 1 and a half hour video in my sig some day and wake up (or get woke whatever you kids are saying these days)

pretty retarded theory. if youre going to assume false flag the obvious perpetrators are the pro-brexit fags who need to make sure theres plenty of fresh islamophobia to drive the may vote.

[Chris]

pretty retarded theory. if youre going to assume false flag the obvious perpetrators are the pro-brexit fags who need to make sure theres plenty of fresh islamophobia to drive the may vote.

Gulf of Tonkin is a de-classified false flag. I love to have the discussion with veterans because they all agree it was bullshit that we get drawn into these wars and they get real fired up. Follow the money -it always goes to the bankers and they always fund both sides of the war. People like Napoleon, Lincoln, Kennedy tried to set up their own banking system with whatever backing...BOOM dead...

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Another attack...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3717339/london-bridge-attack-car-police-response-latest/

This is the EU sending in their thugs in retaliation for Brexit so they come crawling back for help. This is the Hegelian Dialectic in action

Chris

[spurraider21]

Gulf of Tonkin is a de-classified false flag. I love to have the discussion with veterans because they all agree it was bullshit that we get drawn into these wars and they get real fired up. Follow the money -it always goes to the bankers and they always fund both sides of the war. People like Napoleon, Lincoln, Kennedy tried to set up their own banking system with whatever backing...BOOM dead...so then why dont you try to follow the money when a billionaire mogul becomes the most powerful person in the world?

and you're leaving out info on gulf of tonkin... the first attack has never been in dispute, the one two days later was fabricated

[Chris]

so then why dont you try to follow the money when a billionaire mogul becomes the most powerful person in the world?

It is my hope that he is on the outside looking in. He doesn't have any relations to anyone AFAIK which is usually a rule for politicians. They are all related to royalty.

[spurraider21]

It is my hope that he is on the outside looking in. He doesn't have any relations to anyone AFAIK which is usually a rule for politicians. They are all related to royalty.
so you follow the money except when the guy with a lot of money is in power :lol

[Chris]

so you follow the money except when the guy with a lot of money is in power :lol

He uses the money. I'm talking about the people who own the money. Quit being obtuse or dense.

[DarrinS]

Another stellar night for the ROP

[spurraider21]

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good to hear this. and here i thought he was elected to represent the people of pittsburgh, not london

[DarrinS]

#notAllMuslims

[spurraider21]

#notAllMuslims
what about it. think im missing the point.

[DarrinS]

what about it. think im missing the point.

Just praying there isn't an anti-Muslim backlash

[spurraider21]

Just praying there isn't an anti-Muslim backlash
i get that ur being snarky, but just trying to understand the underlying meaning of the snarkiness.

[Chris]

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[boutons_deux]

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You Can't Handle The Truth

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He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

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POTUS lit their fuckin' asses up on Twitter of a Sunday morn. & daddy-O's,,,no one was spared.