Official 2017 MLB Season Thread

[baseline bum]

Time to strand two more runners?

Of course :lol

[Clipper Nation]

There you go, Correa!

[David Stern]

The Dodgers are still hanging around. That’s a scary thing. Houston won’t hold them off like this. They need to add to this 5-0 lead or they will lose.

[midnightpulp]

Of course :lol

So predictable. I do blame this uppercut/flyball mentality the Dodgers have bought into this year, leads to strikeouts and swinging over or under pitches that produces soft dribblers or pop ups.

[Clipper Nation]

Too bad McCann is so slow and old.

[Clipper Nation]

I'm feeling a Gattis dinger right here.

[Robz4000]

Hinch finally wising up

[David Stern]

The Dodgers still hanging around. Astros keep failing to blow this game open.

[Robz4000]

This could be game right here if Maybin clutches up.

[Clipper Nation]

Dodgers are so coming back and winning this.

[Robz4000]

Fucking hell Maybin.

[David Stern]

Maybin failed. Dodgers have momentum again.

[Robz4000]

Really sucks the Astros had to waste Gattis and Devinski there, though at least Reddick is out of the game.

[Robz4000]

Maybin failed. Dodgers have momentum again.

The Dodgers have been far worse with LOBs, including last inning. Momentum is still with the Astros at this point, albeit one swing of the bat by LA can change it.

[Clipper Nation]

Classic Houston sports right here.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Morton

[Clipper Nation]

Dodgers will win this game.

[baseline bum]

Time to strand two more runners?

bump

[Robz4000]

bump

They'll get at least a run this inning. Question is can the Astros limit the damage?

[Robz4000]

Ethier about to come up clutch.

[Clipper Nation]

That's the moment the Astros turned back into a Houston team.

[Robz4000]

There it is. Time to get Morton the fuck out.

[baseline bum]

Wow finally. How embarrassing would it have been to be shutout in Game 7 by an Astros staff that pitched like shit?

[David Stern]

Adios Houston. Your season is over now. You had your chances and flat out blew it.

[lefty20]

Buttholes tightening up for Astros

[midnightpulp]

bump

We got one! Start planning to go to the parade, Bum.

Anyhow, I'll be happy with just 2 out of this. 3 run lead, Stros booty might start to clinch.

[baseline bum]

Still stranded two :lol

[Robz4000]

Good shit Astros to get out of that. Need to get to Jansen ASAP though.

[David Stern]

Dodgers accomplished their goal. They chipped away. They are very much alive in this game. The Astros are trying not to lose now. They lack a killer instinct.

[monosylab1k]

Dodgers are the gazelle caught in the jaws of a lion. Put up a bit of a struggle but overall accepting their fate and waiting for the sweet release of death.

[lefty20]

Astros pitching is playing with fire so far. Only a matter of time b4 they get burned.

[Robz4000]

Astros are lucky as fuck Darvish pitched two games in this series, otherwise they prolly lose it in 5. Ridiculous how helpless their offense looks against every other pitcher.

[Robz4000]

Be a hero, Correa

[midnightpulp]

Astros are lucky as fuck Darvish pitched two games in this series, otherwise they prolly lose it in 5. Ridiculous how helpless their offense looks against every other pitcher.

I still appreciate him for helping the Dodgers to the 1st pennant in 29 years. He was lights out until the WS. No hate. Pitching is an absolutely brutal mindfuck of a job.

[monosylab1k]

Amid all the pitcher choke jobs, Justin Turner’s choke job is maybe the worst of all.

[Robz4000]

I still appreciate him for helping the Dodgers to the 1st pennant in 29 years. He was lights out until the WS. No hate. Pitching is an absolutely brutal mindfuck of a job.

Y'all win the pennant with or without him tbh, and without him y'all would've won this series last weekend.

[Robz4000]

Amid all the pitcher choke jobs, Justin Turner’s choke job is maybe the worst of all.

Crazy how he's become an afterthought since Game 1. Used up all his clutch (I hope).

[David Stern]

Dodgers are the gazelle caught in the jaws of a lion. Put up a bit of a struggle but overall accepting their fate and waiting for the sweet release of death.

Not unless the Astros extend this lead.

[Robz4000]

Wood gonna fluke his way to another no-hit outting, isn't he?

[midnightpulp]

Amid all the pitcher choke jobs, Justin Turner’s choke job is maybe the worst of all.

Totally absent this series.

[David Stern]

Astros are lucky as fuck Darvish pitched two games in this series, otherwise they prolly lose it in 5. Ridiculous how helpless their offense looks against every other pitcher.

Ummm, Darvish did not pitch game 2 or 5. Their overrated closer lost them game 2, and Kershaw and company lost them game 5. Darvish is not their only flaw.

[Robz4000]

Ummm, Darvish did not pitch game 2 or 5. Their overrated closer lost them game 2, and Kershaw and company lost them game 5. Darvish is not their only flaw.

No way Astros win Game 5 if they're down 3-1.

[David Stern]

No way Astros win Game 5 if they're down 3-1.

No way the Dodgers even make it this far again if Kershaw doesn’t fluke his way to a non-choking NL postseason again. We can play this game all day.

[Clipper Nation]

Hinch should just leave Morton in for the 9th. He's settled down and is dealing now.

[Robz4000]

Astros could really use an insurance run or two here, though the top of the Dodgers lineup just may come out chucking in the 9th.

[unleashbaynes]

Hinch should just leave Morton in for the 9th. He's settled down and is dealing now.

I think he will. Morton FTW.

[Robz4000]

Welp, let's see if 4 is enough.

[Clipper Nation]

Never in doubt. :lol

[baseline bum]

Congrats Astros fans, that was a hell of a series. Sorry mid.

[Robz4000]

Congrats Houston!

[unleashbaynes]

Absolutely awesome. Grats Houston.

[Clipper Nation]

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[Trainwreck2100]

waited 54 years for that shit Joe Buck call.

[unleashbaynes]

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Best call of all time

[Clipper Nation]

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[djohn2oo8]

Congrats Astros fans, that was a hell of a series. Sorry mid.

:tu

[lefty20]

Gratz to Astros and their fans. Like they say, you'll never forget your first time :bobo

[DAF86]

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What would "going beyond Moneyball" be?

[Clipper Nation]

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[djohn2oo8]

fuck going into work tomorrow lol

[ElNono]

Doyers shoulda won that game they started 3-0, then 4-0, then 7-4... Not taking anything away from the Astros, tbh, but LA had it's chances...

[Trainwreck2100]

Doyers shoulda won that game they started 3-0, then 4-0, then 7-4... Not taking anything away from the Astros, tbh, but LA had it's chances...

had their chances tonight, their manager is fucking idiot who dragged his bullpen through the dirt

[RD2191]

Correa with the boss proposal.

[JamStone]

What would "going beyond Moneyball" be?

Jeff Luhnow is an engineer, economist, and businessman. His analytics go beyond just the evaluation of statistical analysis. He's hired people with backgrounds in engineering, economy, psychology, law to his analytic department. Not only people without direct baseball backgrounds, but people without necessarily statistics backgrounds. His philosophy essentially and in short is to come up with any idea that may help the team and organization better. It doesn't have to deal with scouting players or pitching or swing mechanics. It doesn't have to deal with baseball or statistics at all. Any good idea that helps the organization and is worth pursuing is pursued.

It's beyond what we all know about moneyball. It's pretty crazy.

[DAF86]

Jeff Luhnow is an engineer, economist, and businessman. His analytics go beyond just the evaluation of statistical analysis. He's hired people with backgrounds in engineering, economy, psychology, law to his analytic department. Not only people without direct baseball backgrounds, but people without necessarily statistics backgrounds. His philosophy essentially and in short is to come up with any idea that may help the team and organization better. It doesn't have to deal with scouting players or pitching or swing mechanics. It doesn't have to deal with baseball or statistics at all. Any good idea that helps the organization and is worth pursuing is pursued.

It's beyond what we all know about moneyball. It's pretty crazy.

Thanks for taking the time to respond son, but I didn't take anything away from that, tbh. :lol

So, he is interested on any idea that would help his organization? Well, isn't that what all managers/owners do? :lol I'm gonna need to look for some kind of examples of what they do, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol wow

[midnightpulp]

:tu

Congrats.

[JamStone]

Thanks for taking the time to respond son, but I didn't take anything away from that, tbh. :lol

So, he is interested on any idea that would help his organization? Well, isn't that what all managers/owners do? :lol I'm gonna need to look for some kind of examples of what they do, tbh.

I'll give you a baseball example first. As good as Verlander already was before Houston traded for him, Houston's resources made him better. The Astros have a very in depth program to analyze everything about their pitchers. They have a super high definition video that their organization uses and it helped identify something in Verlander's mechanics on his slider that helped him make an adjustment to add more downward tilt to make his slider even more effective. It's something I believe no other team uses.

As far as the other stuff, I don't know enough to speak in specific detail about how they use economics and psychology and philosophy and sociology and law to their advantage. But what I've read is that they use those things in greater detail than any other team. So this is sort of short guessing of the types of examples that may be what they do. So as far as evaluating prospects, beyond statistical analysis of their talent on the baseball field, let's say they would not only do a standard psychiatric evaluation on how a guy may project mentally, but they would go into the psychology and social behaviors of their family history to evaluate a prospect's mental and projectable social behavior. They would go into the socio-economics of where a player is from to help project him. Why are Venezuelan shortstops so successful? Why do Dominican corner outfielders project so well? Find the trends, identify the markers, create algorithms to provide information. Use it in the evaluation process.

Now that extends beyond their player evaluations. They use those things in hiring their front office and minor league coaches and instructors. They have those engineers in their analytics department that come up with algorithms for all sorts of things. And again I can't give you specific examples. But when you ask doesn't every owner / manager do everything they can to make their organization better? The short answer is no. Because the basic premise for Luhnow is essentially don't leave any stone unturned, no matter how irrelevant it might seem, beyond just baseball and statistics. And that's what the Astros under Luhnow has been trying to do. It's beyond advanced statistical analysis. It's everything and anything they can think of.

I'm no expert on it. I'm not trying to purport to be. That's just what I've gathered from what I've read on Luhnow.

[DAF86]

I'll give you a baseball example first. As good as Verlander already was before Houston traded for him, Houston's resources made him better. The Astros have a very in depth program to analyze everything about their pitchers. They have a super high definition video that their organization uses and it helped identify something in Verlander's mechanics on his slider that helped him make an adjustment to add more downward tilt to make his slider even more effective. It's something I believe no other team uses.

As far as the other stuff, I don't know enough to speak in specific detail about how they use economics and psychology and philosophy and sociology and law to their advantage. But what I've read is that they use those things in greater detail than any other team. So this is sort of short guessing of the types of examples that may be what they do. So as far as evaluating prospects, beyond statistical analysis of their talent on the baseball field, let's say they would not only do a standard psychiatric evaluation on how a guy may project mentally, but they would go into the psychology and social behaviors of their family history to evaluate a prospect's mental and projectable social behavior. They would go into the socio-economics of where a player is from to help project him. Why are Venezuelan shortstops so successful? Why do Dominican corner outfielders project so well? Find the trends, identify the markers, create algorithms to provide information. Use it in the evaluation process.

Now that extends beyond their player evaluations. They use those things in hiring their front office and minor league coaches and instructors. They have those engineers in their analytics department that come up with algorithms for all sorts of things. And again I can't give you specific examples. But when you ask doesn't every owner / manager do everything they can to make their organization better? The short answer is no. Because the basic premise for Luhnow is essentially don't leave any stone unturned, no matter how irrelevant it might seem, beyond just baseball and statistics. And that's what the Astros under Luhnow has been trying to do. It's beyond advanced statistical analysis. It's everything and anything they can think of.

I'm no expert on it. I'm not trying to purport to be. That's just what I've gathered from what I've read on Luhnow.

Thanks for the info. :tu

[djohn2oo8]

Congrats.

Thanks man great series btw. Hope to see you guys again next year.

[djohn2oo8]

This feels unreal. Cant believe we won without a bullpen.

[midnightpulp]

This feels unreal. Cant believe we won without a bullpen.

As a baseball fan, I like it. You guys were the hardest to strikeout and showed analytic calculator heads that bullpens can be overrated. Without Verlander being an innings eater against the Yankees, the Stros aren't here. The 7/8 inning starting pitcher needs to become valued again.

[Spurtacular]

This feels unreal. Cant believe we won without a bullpen.

I can. I banked a lot on Houston. They were beating the shit out of teams all season. As an Angels fan, it quickly became apparent that we would not be competing for the division this season.

[lefty20]

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Dinger ball ftw

[midnightpulp]

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Dinger ball ftw

Those swings are so easy for good pitchers to shut down. You know from watching Javy. Hopefully he'll learn.

[JoeTait75]

This feels unreal. Cant believe we won without a bullpen.

Congrats to you and the rest of the Houston fans. The 'Stros are a deserving champion.

[The Gemini Method]

That was anti-climatic. Spent watching the game in a Dodger bar in the O.C., and it was somber. This one is going to hurt all winter for sure. Plenty of chances to have won this series, but the curious analytic side of the game taxed the bullpen and the lack of faith in your starting rotation was too much and Darvish shrinks in the spotlight. midnightpulp do you think after this pitiful performance in the WS the Dodgers bring back Yu? I know that Otani isn't likely to head over. Probably bringing up Buehler (sp?) as well. Also need to fix the holes in Bellinger's swing. Congrats, though, are in order to the Astros and the fans like djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870). I think it was 2015 when I was watching the Astros play the royals in the ALDS and I thought this squad were good and then 2017 happened. For all that Houston has been trhough, at least this offers some temporary cause for celebration.

[spurraider21]

The Japanese pitcher theory has been cancelled out by Yuli's racism, tbh. Darvish is going to look like MadBum tomorrow. The only chance the Astros have is if Kerchoke comes out of the pen and pulls his usual Kerchoke performance.
Wrong on all levels per par

[TimDunkem]

Darvish needs to commit seppuku already.

[Darth_Pelican]

This guy deserves a raise. This cover is from 2014. He called it.



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[The Gemini Method]

This guy deserves a raise. This cover is from 2014. He called it.



https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23172777_1501665079916956_8183003773964891281_n.jp g?oh=876242908372070bc63ff78a68b00382&oe=5AA39754 He predicted they would repeat as well. Think he's getting ahead of himself...

[midnightpulp]

That was anti-climatic. Spent watching the game in a Dodger bar in the O.C., and it was somber. This one is going to hurt all winter for sure. Plenty of chances to have won this series, but the curious analytic side of the game taxed the bullpen and the lack of faith in your starting rotation was too much and Darvish shrinks in the spotlight. midnightpulp do you think after this pitiful performance in the WS the Dodgers bring back Yu? I know that Otani isn't likely to head over. Probably bringing up Buehler (sp?) as well. Also need to fix the holes in Bellinger's swing. Congrats, though, are in order to the Astros and the fans like djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870). I think it was 2015 when I was watching the Astros play the royals in the ALDS and I thought this squad were good and then 2017 happened. For all that Houston has been trhough, at least this offers some temporary cause for celebration.

Tough decision with Yu. He was amazing in the early rounds and then just folded. That early round performance might be enough to justify taking a flyer if there's no better options available. Buehler is definitely intriguing.

Dodgers also need to get more well rounded with their plate approaches. As I've said, they're too preoccupied with trying to lift the ball. Lifting the ball has its time and place, but good pitching will always eat up uppercut swings.

[Mark Celibate]

I can. I banked a lot on Houston. They were beating the shit out of teams all season. As an Angels fan, it quickly became apparent that we would not be competing for the division this season.

rofl, you can say the same about the rest of the division and replace "this season" with "the next 5-6 seasons" unless something crazy happens. Atleast the Angels got a title in the early 2000's. The Rangers choked away their only legit shot in 2011. Now we're trying to squeeze out as much as we can from Hamels, Beltre, and Napoli :lol

Very dark times ahead for the Rangers, imo

[Robz4000]

rofl, you can say the same about the rest of the division and replace "this season" with "the next 5-6 seasons" unless something crazy happens. Atleast the Angels got a title in the early 2000's. The Rangers choked away their only legit shot in 2011. Now we're trying to squeeze out as much as we can from Hamels, Beltre, and Napoli :lol

Very dark times ahead for the Rangers, imo

Rangers will never win anything with Jon Daniels making personnel decisions. Dude is horrible at talent evaluation.

[djohn2oo8]

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Not sure

[midnightpulp]

I've always been mystified at why Darvish, a guy with nasty, nasty stuff, always flounders in the playoffs. We might have an answer:

http://www.businessinsider.com/yu-darvish-tipping-pitches-world-series-loss-2017-11


"All of a sudden I realized his right hand, every time he's going to throw the fastball, puts it in and it never moves, because he already has the grip," Perez said. "But every time he's going to throw the slider, puts it in, and you see a little bit of movement. That's all you need: a little bit of movement. Now I know it's not a fastball. I eliminate the No. 1. You eliminate the No. 1, it opens the door for beautiful things to come."

He's like a poker player blinking twice every time he has a great hand.

[Clipper Nation]

Speaking of the Rangers...

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:lol The salt is real. Not surprising, though, from an organization that hires assholes like Jeff Banister and Colby Lewis and acts like flipping your bat after a home run makes you one of history's greatest monsters.

[midnightpulp]

Speaking of the Rangers...

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:lol The salt is real. Not surprising, though, from an organization that hires assholes like Jeff Banister and Colby Lewis and acts like flipping your bat after a home run makes you one of history's greatest monsters.

:lol

They're going to have work to this off-season. Players like Gallo and Odor are homer-or-nothing players. Hard to build a lineup around that.

[Spurtacular]

rofl, you can say the same about the rest of the division and replace "this season" with "the next 5-6 seasons" unless something crazy happens. Atleast the Angels got a title in the early 2000's. The Rangers choked away their only legit shot in 2011. Now we're trying to squeeze out as much as we can from Hamels, Beltre, and Napoli :lol

Very dark times ahead for the Rangers, imo

Angels are trending in the right direction. I expect them to have a good shot at making the playoffs. We'll just see whether we can get that quintessential 1-2 pitching combo that most WS winners tend to have.

[midnightpulp]

Angels are trending in the right direction. I expect them to have a good shot at making the playoffs. We'll just see whether we can get that quintessential 1-2 pitching combo that most WS winners tend to have.

Just signed Upton to a 5 year deal. He had a good season, but I think that's too long.

[Spurtacular]

Just signed Upton to a 5 year deal. He had a good season, but I think that's too long.

Yea, that's not a great signing. Could be the next Gary Mathews Jr. signing.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmXLvaVAAAB9Cd.jpg:large

[Robz4000]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmXLvaVAAAB9Cd.jpg:large

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Congrats to you and the rest of the Houston fans. The 'Stros are a deserving champion.

:tu

[djohn2oo8]

Altuve AL MVP

[Roxsfan]

Go Stros!

[Robz4000]

Marlins are trading Dee Gordon to the Mariners. Guess that means Stanton is staying put in Miami. What a horrible situation that's turned into; thought the new ownership would turn things around but it seems Jeter's group is even more incompetent than the last one.

[lefty20]

Stanton denying the trade to Giants and Cards :lol

[monosylab1k]

:lmao this Stanton trade is the most blatant example of collusion since the Gasol trade.


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[Chris Fall]

Fish didn't even get a top 5 Yankee prospect in return?!?!

Lmao

[monosylab1k]

Fish didn't even get a top 5 Yankee prospect in return?!?!

Lmao

I seriously wouldn’t put it past the Yankees to have Jeter go “undercover” to make this trade possible. Everything he’s done as owner is a guy who clearly doesn’t care about the franchise he just took over.

[djohn2oo8]

Fuck em. We'll kick their ass again next year.

[lefty20]

Jeter coming up clutch for the Yanks per par, tbh.

[Chris Fall]

Derek Jeter only has 4% of the ownership. There are at least 5 partners in the group that have greater ownership shares. At the very least superficially, Jeter certainly gives off the appearance of corruption and collusion with the trade. I'm curious if the owners just gave Jeter general executive discretion or if Jeter actually approached them with the trade proposal and got approval before pulling the trigger.

If it weren't the Yankees, it wouldn't be so slimy. Miami didn't deserve Stanton anyway. It's a horrible sports town, rivaling the likes of Atlanta and Phoenix. They don't really care about their teams. Yet Miami wasn't only blessed with two World Series titles late 90s, early 2000s, but they were also gifted a couple extra NBA titles because LeBron's decision to play buddy ball with Wade and Bosh. Marlins fans deserve losing Stanton. Sucks it had to be to the Yankees.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao this Stanton trade is the most blatant example of collusion since the Gasol trade.


939516287599833089I don't see it, tbh. The Marlins had trades lined up with the Cardinals and Giants until Stanton refused to waive his no-trade clause for either team. If he had waived it, he'd be a Cardinal or a Giant right now. If he didn't want to be a Yankee, he wouldn't be one right now. Collusion would be a waste of time and effort when the player in question can just reject any trade.

As for the idea that Jeter "gutted the team" - he had to do it for the financial health of the franchise. Loria left the Marlins saddled with $400 million in debt. They've been operating at a loss for years. Stanton's contract was insane when they signed it and any new owner was going to trade him ASAP.

I agree that the optics of Jeter trading his new team's best player to his old team are terrible, but that's all it appears to be: optics.

[Clipper Nation]

Derek Jeter only has 4% of the ownership. There are at least 5 partners in the group that have greater ownership shares.

This is true, but Jeter is in charge of the Marlins' baseball operations, so this trade is ultimately his responsibility.

[Chris Fall]

That was point. He's making the decision while his investment risk pales in comparison to several of the other owners. Hence, it looks extra fishy. Would it surprise anyone if Jeter in a few years sells all or most of his ownership shares back to the ownership group or to another investor, the way Jay-Z did with the Brooklyn Nets?

The part of Stanton refusing to go to the Giants and Cardinals is true. But that doesn't mean the deal to the Yankees isn't super shady. They gave away Stanton for peanuts. Stanton wanted to go to LA. Jeter could have given a sweetheart deal to the Dodgers or Angels. He didn't. Starlin Castro and two lower level prospects, neither higher than #9 on the Yankees prospect rankings for the best power hitter in an era of power hitting likely since a juiced Barry Bonds. Its hard to believe that was the best trade package they could get in return from any team Stanton would agree to go to.

[Clipper Nation]

I will say this - Jeter seems to be going out of his way to make the optics look as bad as possible:

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Jeter needs to man up and at least give the fans, media and league an explanation for how the Stanton trade played out. It's pretty pathetic to hide from the winter meetings.

[midnightpulp]

Shotime in Anaheim

[Fabbs]

ya finding it hard to believe the Angels did not have a better offer then the Skankies for Stanton.
Dodgers too.

[monosylab1k]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/yu-darvish-tipping-pitches-world-series-152908722.html?exp=vv

So Yu was tipping his pitches in the World Series, which explains how atrocious he was. Big question is, how did the Dodgers coaching staff not notice this? He was doing the exact same thing earlier in the year with Texas, you would think they’d be on alert and paying better attention to him.

[lefty20]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/yu-darvish-tipping-pitches-world-series-152908722.html?exp=vv

So Yu was tipping his pitches in the World Series, which explains how atrocious he was. Big question is, how did the Dodgers coaching staff not notice this? He was doing the exact same thing earlier in the year with Texas, you would think they’d be on alert and paying better attention to him.

Asians are suppose to be smarter than this. He's disgraced the family :depressed

[Robz4000]

Matt Kemp back to the Doyers.

[midnightpulp]

Matt Kemp back to the Doyers.

Welcome home, but he's past it. Can't stay healthy, and even when he did put up good numbers after his post-MVP level year, his WAR was always pretty below average. Baseball's weird now, becoming a young man's sport. Seems when modern players hit 30, they trend downward real fast.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/hitters-no-longer-peak-only-decline/

Could be the crackdowns on PEDs and such.

[djohn2oo8]

Gerrit Cole to the Stros for trash :tu

[Clipper Nation]

Another Expo is headed to Cooperstown!

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[Robz4000]

Chipper Jones, Vladimir Guerrero, Jim Thome, and Trevor Hoffman. Glad they got it right this year.

[midnightpulp]

Another Expo is headed to Cooperstown!

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<b><a href="http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896" target="_blank">lefty</a></b>

Det Arm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzM02BgL-k

[Chris Fall]

I've been watching baseball since the mid 80s, so I won't pretend to know about players before then but for my money, Vlad was the best bad pitch hitter I've ever watched. There's often a video of him drilling a single off of a pitch that bounced up to the plate. And he was quite literally the type to be able to hit from helmet to shoestrings. Hand-eye coordination and reaction time as ridiculous as it comes. Well deserved.

[lefty20]

One week away from pitchers and catcher reporting and we've still got them big FAs on the market. Really hope GM's are able to stick to their guns and refrain themselves from handing out those 5yr+ mega deals.

[djohn2oo8]

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That hat is sweet.

[monosylab1k]

Det Arm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzM02BgL-k

Even playing DH and on his last legs, he was still the most exciting player of that 2010 Rangers team. Well deserved, it’s just a shame he played in the steroid era and never truly got the recognition he deserved as a player. At least he’s getting it now, he was 100x the player Sosa was.

[monosylab1k]

Yu signs with the Cubs. 6/$126

I thought for sure he’d come back to Texas. At least he didn’t go to Houston.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22392822/yu-darvish-chicago-cubs-agree-6-year-deal-worth-126-million

[Chris Fall]

Considering how frigid the free agent market has been with the bigger name free agents, it’s a pretty good deal for Yu. I was starting to think we’d only be seeing 4-5 year deals to the more expensive free agents. mlbtraderumors predicted $160M over 6 for Yu. And if he reaches his incentives, that’s still pretty close. Question is will other teams follow suit by giving up 6 year deals to the marquee guys or keep holding out for shorter 3-5 year contracts.

[djohn2oo8]

Yu signs with the Cubs. 6/$126

I thought for sure he’d come back to Texas. At least he didn’t go to Houston.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22392822/yu-darvish-chicago-cubs-agree-6-year-deal-worth-126-million

Couldn't spend that kind of money of him with other guys to keep and more pitching in the minors.

[lefty20]

Not happy with the 6th year on that deal. He'll be over 37 at that point. Curious to see what Arrieta gets.