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Big Empty
07-18-2018, 09:26 AM
7ft, 22 years old. Drafted in 2016 #9 in the first round. Whats his upside?

Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 09:27 AM
Janitor

hater
07-18-2018, 09:29 AM
Bendover I will show you an Poeltl

Robz4000
07-18-2018, 09:29 AM
Mediocre at best, unfortunately.

sasaint
07-18-2018, 09:30 AM
Baynes.

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 09:32 AM
Warriors Bogut minus the elite passing is his upside.

He's already a VERY GOOD defensive player, but a soft finisher and frustrating offensive player.

With DeRozan, Gay, Mills, Belinelli and whoever else on the roster, Spurs are going to need all the defensive help they can get:lol

timtonymanu
07-18-2018, 09:33 AM
Bogut is his upside.

He's already a VERY GOOD defensive player, but a soft finisher and frustrating offensive player.

So like a worse version of Splitter?

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 09:35 AM
So like a worse version of Splitter?

He has a higher ceiling than Tiago.

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 09:36 AM
So like a worse version of Splitter?

He has a higher ceiling than Tiago.

Joseph Kony
07-18-2018, 09:38 AM
He is an underrated player. Great defensive player and will be a plus for our big rotation. Not getting OG back sucks but imo Spurs fans wil llove Poeltl. Better than Gasol tbh

8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 09:41 AM
More athletic than Splitter, moves a little better than Bogut but not as strong

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-18-2018, 09:42 AM
Obviously a prospect but a good rim protector - top 10 in NBA in blocks per 48. Good PnR rollman - about Steven Adams - like statistically, great offwnsive rebounder - 12.4 off reb % - just short of Capela.

jermaine
07-18-2018, 09:44 AM
I like the kid... Seems like a solid pickup to me.

8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 09:45 AM
Obviously a prospect but a good rim protector - top 10 in NBA in blocks per 48. Good PnR rollman - about Steven Adams - like statistically, great offwnsive rebounder - 12.4 off reb % - just short of Capela.

So literally everything Spurs fans have been begging for for years but mad now that we got it.

DesignatedT
07-18-2018, 09:45 AM
I like the kid. Besides his style becoming kinda a dying breed in today's game, I think he has good upside. Obviously disappointed about OG not being included but I don't dislike Poeltl.

kobyz
07-18-2018, 09:46 AM
at best PJ Brown!

picnroll
07-18-2018, 09:46 AM
Can he guard the PNR as well as Spltter? Can he rebound?

Gordy58
07-18-2018, 10:06 AM
Dude looks like an elite above the rim finisher with great blocking instincts, HUGE upgrade over Joff and Pau, plus he’s a nice offensive rebounder and decent passer, kinda makes me feel better about Milutinov not coming over

stu scotts eye
07-18-2018, 10:17 AM
https://youtu.be/C5D_if_wt-k

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-18-2018, 10:37 AM
So literally everything Spurs fans have been begging for for years but mad now that we got it.

He compares very favorably to Steven Adams in his second season, but yeah - he's not black and doesn't jump too high so ST hates.

RD2191
07-18-2018, 10:38 AM
He compares very favorably to Steven Adams in his second season, but yeah - he's not black and doesn't jump too high so ST hates.

Josh Hader?

Shastafarian
07-18-2018, 10:39 AM
How is it you pronounce his name with an r? Purrrrrrdle.

mo7888
07-18-2018, 10:41 AM
Good upside. Long term starter but, not a star or difference maker. OG was the one high upside guy they had.

Keepin' it real
07-18-2018, 11:09 AM
Good upside. Long term starter but, not a star or difference maker. OG was the one high upside guy they had.

Hmmm, maybe that's why Toronto wouldn't trade him.

stu scotts eye
07-18-2018, 11:09 AM
LMA prob wanted this guy so he could slide to 4

mo7888
07-18-2018, 11:11 AM
Hmmm, maybe that's why Toronto wouldn't trade him.

That and he's also insurance if Kawhi leaves.

mexicanjunior
07-18-2018, 11:37 AM
Toros fodder...

Mr. Body
07-18-2018, 11:41 AM
He's... actually a good get.

-21-
07-18-2018, 11:49 AM
Bogut is his upside.

He's already a VERY GOOD defensive player, but a soft finisher and frustrating offensive player.

With DeRozan, Gay, Mills, Belinelli and whoever else on the roster, Spurs are going to need all the defensive help they can get:lol

Really? He's a good defensive player? That's good. I don't know much about him but judging by his looks I thought he was more of a soft Euro big or an Enes Kanter 2.0. Glad to be wrong.

look_at_g_shred
07-18-2018, 11:56 AM
Stretch 5?

Seventyniner
07-18-2018, 12:03 PM
Stretch 5?

Quite the opposite, only took 2 threes all last season, hitting one.

Shot 73.4% of his FG attempts from 0-3 feet and made 66% of those. That compares favorably to Capela (80% of FG attempts from 0-3 ft distance, 65.3 FG% on those shots).

But I haven't watched Poeltl at all, these are just the numbers.

dbestpro
07-18-2018, 12:03 PM
Needs to work on free throw shooting.

spurraider21
07-18-2018, 12:04 PM
Stretch 5?
yes except for the stretch part

dbestpro
07-18-2018, 12:06 PM
Pöltl ended the 2017–18 regular season having made 34 of his last 39 shots in the final eight games. He was also the only Raptors player to appear in all 82 regular-season contests.

CGD
07-18-2018, 12:20 PM
He’s a good pick up, and reminds me of Tiago. I’m just disappointed this is the only other peice the Spurs got. That pick is shitty in a shitty draft.

BSfromTX
07-18-2018, 12:21 PM
Obviously a prospect but a good rim protector - top 10 in NBA in blocks per 48. Good PnR rollman - about Steven Adams - like statistically, great offwnsive rebounder - 12.4 off reb % - just short of Capela.


+1

Play Boban
07-18-2018, 12:23 PM
He should probably be our starting center next year and LA can slide to the 4.

Play Boban
07-18-2018, 12:23 PM
Stretch 5?

Just because he's white doesn't mean he can shoot (he can't). :lol

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 12:25 PM
He should probably be our starting center next year and LA can slide to the 4.

This must be your favorite acquisition in years:lol

rascal
07-18-2018, 12:26 PM
White bigs are generally trash.

rascal
07-18-2018, 12:28 PM
Quite the opposite, only took 2 threes all last season, hitting one.

Shot 73.4% of his FG attempts from 0-3 feet and made 66% of those. That compares favorably to Capela (80% of FG attempts from 0-3 ft distance, 65.3 FG% on those shots).

But I haven't watched Poeltl at all, these are just the numbers.

Garbage time dunks

Kori Ellis
07-18-2018, 12:28 PM
Does he have a nickname, or is he just "Yakub Poodle"?

BatManu20
07-18-2018, 12:35 PM
Does he have a nickname, or is he just "Yakub Poodle"?

Call him "Mask."


https://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Rocky-Dennis.jpg http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/3134908.png&w=350&h=254

SpursBills
07-18-2018, 12:36 PM
Poeltl Power

Big Empty
07-18-2018, 12:37 PM
Call him "Mask."


https://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Rocky-Dennis.jpg http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/3134908.png&w=350&h=254
Lmfao

SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 12:43 PM
More excited about Poetle looking at his high draft pick, highlights, age, and the fact he got minutes in a loaded front court. Spurs got essentially got their lottery pick and he should be ready to start or play off the bench. Any 1st rounder is a chance to groom another starter for the Spurs. Solid trade. Hope this dies down soon and we can just focus on ball. I don't want to hear about any of this stuff anymore honestly but being who I am I will stay in tune. Wish the best for Kawhi and the Raptors but hope he fires his management REALLY soon.

gambit1990
07-18-2018, 12:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoMD6kdpnMg

slick'81
07-18-2018, 12:51 PM
Is he any good? Seems like a bust who couldnt crack raptors starting lineup

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2018, 12:51 PM
European Mason Plumlee.

ducks
07-18-2018, 12:51 PM
White bigs are generally trash.

you racist piece of shit

Play Boban
07-18-2018, 12:52 PM
This must be your favorite acquisition in years:lol

:bobo

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2018, 12:53 PM
you racist piece of shit
School shooting doesn't help in the NBA, so he's technically right

slick'81
07-18-2018, 01:02 PM
One of the 2016 draft busts

monkeypunk
07-18-2018, 01:07 PM
you racist piece of shit

Your favorite kind of people.

rascal
07-18-2018, 01:13 PM
He’s a good pick up, and reminds me of Tiago. I’m just disappointed this is the only other peice the Spurs got. That pick is shitty in a shitty draft.

He looks more athletic than Splitter with his dunks and blocks on the defensive end. Splitter couldn't jump.

rascal
07-18-2018, 01:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoMD6kdpnMg

So nothing but dunks and blocks.

Pavlov
07-18-2018, 01:16 PM
I guess the Spurs can try to recreate Duncan/Splitter with LMA/Poeltl. Doesn't look glacial out there at least.

slick'81
07-18-2018, 01:19 PM
7ft, 22 years old. Drafted in 2016 #9 in the first round. Whats his upside?

None apparently

DJR210
07-18-2018, 01:21 PM
I'm just happy to see he knows he's 7 feet tall and takes the ball up strong

DJR210
07-18-2018, 01:22 PM
Call him "Mask."


https://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Rocky-Dennis.jpg http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/3134908.png&w=350&h=254

:lmao

Went from Uncle Dennis to Rocky Dennis smh

Amuseddaysleeper
07-18-2018, 01:23 PM
Does he have a nickname, or is he just "Yakub Poodle"?

The Austrian Hammer is what they called him here in Toronto

testies
07-18-2018, 01:24 PM
Pop will take 3 years to play him. We will be watching Pau Gasol go back on screens and let Curry shoot uncontested 3s for a couple of more years.

spurraider21
07-18-2018, 01:25 PM
So nothing but dunks and blocks.
yeah. he's gonna be an awful point guard

boutons_deux
07-18-2018, 01:33 PM
p'n'r, rim defense, moves well for a big, plays with confidence. not bad for 22

wildbill2u
07-18-2018, 01:50 PM
Looks more mobile on both ends of the court than Gasol right now. Highlight films are shit, but the instincts to move his feet on defense and cover from the weak side look ok. We got nothing to lose at the 5 so why not bring him in early and often as soon as he learns the system and plays. At 22, if he works out as serviceable, he could be around for a long time.

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 01:52 PM
Poetl and Pau together makes no sense in today's NBA..really hope it means they could trade Pau, rather than starting 2 traditional bigs again..

He isn't a garbage time player, he's already a legit rotation guy, he's not going to ride the bench..

Mr. Body
07-18-2018, 01:59 PM
you racist piece of shit

Hey, ducks, when your president flees to Moscow, will you join him?

SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 01:59 PM
Poetl and Pau together makes no sense in today's NBA..really hope it means they could trade Pau, rather than starting 2 traditional bigs again..

He isn't a garbage time player, he's already a legit rotation guy, he's not going to ride the bench..

LMA is pf/c. We only have 2 centers. Pretty much need both Pau and Poetl but trading Pau for a big would work.

HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 02:03 PM
LMA is pf/c. We only have 2 centers. Pretty much need both Pau and Poetl but trading Pau for a big would work.

Aldridge should be playing C on defense now, he's only going to get slower on that end..Gay, Bertans and Cunningham are ideally 4s..

Spurs really need a legit SF option..

Mr. Body
07-18-2018, 02:06 PM
Aldridge should be playing C on defense now, he's only going to get slower on that end..Gay, Bertans and Cunningham are ideally 4s..

Spurs really need a legit SF option..

Ira Newble.

SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 02:09 PM
Aldridge should be playing C on defense now, he's only going to get slower on that end..Gay, Bertans and Cunningham are ideally 4s..

Spurs really need a legit SF option..

Derozan is our SF. We do need a more ideal backup but Bertans, Gay, and Manu (if he comes back) can all fill in sparingly there. I assume we waive BP3 and bring up Blossomgame or sign one more free agent. I'm seeing Cunningham as a guy who will get run too. He is a solid vet. Too bad Anunoby was not part of the deal but this will definitely be addressed next year I bet.

ducks
07-18-2018, 02:14 PM
Hey, ducks, when your president flees to Moscow, will you join him?

I thought several people were going to leave when trump won
they were moving to canada but never did

Russ
07-18-2018, 02:14 PM
Jakob Poetl's NBA Draft.net profile:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jakob-poeltl

Birthday: 10/15/95
NBA Position: Center
Class: Sophomore
Ht: 7-1
Wt: 240
Hometown: Vienna, Austria
High School: Arkadia Traiskirchen

2016 Mock: 9 Big Board: 17 Pos Rank - C: 3
NBA Comparison: Andrew Bogut

Strengths: There are not many 7' footers who can run the floor like he does ... He gets up and down the court very well, giving strong effort on every possession ... Often gets himself open just by out-hustling opposing bigmen ... He has an long, agile, and strong body, and enjoys contact and doesn’t back down from it ... His skill level is still very raw but he has big, soft hands, and knows how to use his large frame to get deep post position and present good angles ... Shows the ability to finish with both hands, and his soft touch gives his offensive game some real intrigue ... His ability to finish around the rim allowed him to shoot with very high efficiency numbers from the field this year ... Another very intriguing aspect of his skillset is how well he moves his feet on defense ... He shows great coordination and can really show hard on the pick and roll without getting beat easily by guards ... He plays really hard every minute on the floor, has a good motor and seems to understand his limitations ... Needs to add some strength, but has an excellent frame to carry weight ...

Weaknesses: Despite being very young and showing a lot of ability, it's possible that his ceiling isn't quite as high as some believe ... While he's got a great attitude and appears very coachable, there's skepticism whether he has the swagger to take his game to a star level ... At the moment he doesn’t have any post moves to create for himself or be major a threat offensively and his free throw shooting was amongst the worst of any draft prospect ... It begs the question of how big an impact he will be on the offensive end, and also without teammates creating for him ... Defensively he should look to become a little nastier in pushing people around on the block ... At this point his skills as a rim protector are underdeveloped, and it may never be a strength to his game ... While he is really good at bodying people up and blocking shots on ball, he needs to learn how to contest shots coming from help side as well as being better against guards driving to the rim ... Overall Poeltl has certainly made the best of his year and deserved the hype considering how fast he developed ... Though his developing a real post game remains a questionmark, and that could always keep him away from becoming a high level NBA center ...

Outlook: After such a productive freshman year and showing a lot of promise with his great size, fluidity and solid touch, Poeltl is considered a likely first rounder by NBA scouts if he enters the 2015 NBA draft ...

Notes: Name is pronounced "Ya-kob Per-del" ... The Austrian became a sensation and highly talked about among the NBA scouting world for the first three months of the college season as he established as one of the top young center prospects ... He kind of hit the freshman wall during the Pac-12 regular season before finishing with a strong conference tournament and NCAA tournament that put his name back on the map ... He finished off the season averaging 9 ppg, 7 rpg and 2 bpg in just 23 minutes while shooting a fantastic 68% from the floor ... Measured 7'1’’ in shoes, with a 7'1’’ wingspan and 242 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy

Rick Pietro 4/12/15

8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 02:22 PM
So eventually we'll be with

PG - Murray
SG - Walker
SF - DeRozan
PF - Aldridge
C - Poeltl

Mr. Body
07-18-2018, 02:22 PM
I thought several people were going to leave when trump won
they were moving to canada but never did

You didn't answer the question you fucking traitor.

Namundy
07-18-2018, 02:26 PM
Looks more mobile on both ends of the court than Gasol right now.

So he doesn't look like he's running with a turd in his shorts constantly. Got it.

Dingle Barry
07-18-2018, 02:38 PM
Will Purdue

DPG21920
07-18-2018, 02:49 PM
His offensive game is trash still, but he finished hard when he got the chance (meaning dunks). But he cannot create for himself at all. I do love that he’s a true hard worker though. He isnt some slack off type of player he will give it his all. I don’t think he’s got a lot of upside because he’s not an offensive player at all but maybe he can expand that. Maybe Pau will help him...

ceperez
07-18-2018, 02:55 PM
Poetl and Pau together makes no sense in today's NBA..really hope it means they could trade Pau, rather than starting 2 traditional bigs again..

He isn't a garbage time player, he's already a legit rotation guy, he's not going to ride the bench..

Honestly, centers still make sense against run of the mill teams. They are of course useless against the elite teams.

Spurs still make the playoff with this team.

ceperez
07-18-2018, 02:56 PM
His offensive game is trash still, but he finished hard when he got the chance (meaning dunks). But he cannot create for himself at all. I do love that he’s a true hard worker though. He isnt some slack off type of player he will give it his all. I don’t think he’s got a lot of upside because he’s not an offensive player at all but maybe he can expand that. Maybe Pau will help him...

Someone needs to do the dirty work while Aldridge and Gasol take it easy.

That's what I think Poetl, Cunningham and perhaps Blossomgame are going to bring to the table. The garbage men.

ceperez
07-18-2018, 02:58 PM
Jakob Poetl's NBA Draft.net profile:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jakob-poeltl

Birthday: 10/15/95
NBA Position: Center
Class: Sophomore
Ht: 7-1
Wt: 240
Hometown: Vienna, Austria
High School: Arkadia Traiskirchen

2016 Mock: 9 Big Board: 17 Pos Rank - C: 3
NBA Comparison: Andrew Bogut

Strengths: There are not many 7' footers who can run the floor like he does ... He gets up and down the court very well, giving strong effort on every possession ... Often gets himself open just by out-hustling opposing bigmen ... He has an long, agile, and strong body, and enjoys contact and doesn’t back down from it ... His skill level is still very raw but he has big, soft hands, and knows how to use his large frame to get deep post position and present good angles ... Shows the ability to finish with both hands, and his soft touch gives his offensive game some real intrigue ... His ability to finish around the rim allowed him to shoot with very high efficiency numbers from the field this year ... Another very intriguing aspect of his skillset is how well he moves his feet on defense ... He shows great coordination and can really show hard on the pick and roll without getting beat easily by guards ... He plays really hard every minute on the floor, has a good motor and seems to understand his limitations ... Needs to add some strength, but has an excellent frame to carry weight ...

Weaknesses: Despite being very young and showing a lot of ability, it's possible that his ceiling isn't quite as high as some believe ... While he's got a great attitude and appears very coachable, there's skepticism whether he has the swagger to take his game to a star level ... At the moment he doesn’t have any post moves to create for himself or be major a threat offensively and his free throw shooting was amongst the worst of any draft prospect ... It begs the question of how big an impact he will be on the offensive end, and also without teammates creating for him ... Defensively he should look to become a little nastier in pushing people around on the block ... At this point his skills as a rim protector are underdeveloped, and it may never be a strength to his game ... While he is really good at bodying people up and blocking shots on ball, he needs to learn how to contest shots coming from help side as well as being better against guards driving to the rim ... Overall Poeltl has certainly made the best of his year and deserved the hype considering how fast he developed ... Though his developing a real post game remains a questionmark, and that could always keep him away from becoming a high level NBA center ...

Outlook: After such a productive freshman year and showing a lot of promise with his great size, fluidity and solid touch, Poeltl is considered a likely first rounder by NBA scouts if he enters the 2015 NBA draft ...

Notes: Name is pronounced "Ya-kob Per-del" ... The Austrian became a sensation and highly talked about among the NBA scouting world for the first three months of the college season as he established as one of the top young center prospects ... He kind of hit the freshman wall during the Pac-12 regular season before finishing with a strong conference tournament and NCAA tournament that put his name back on the map ... He finished off the season averaging 9 ppg, 7 rpg and 2 bpg in just 23 minutes while shooting a fantastic 68% from the floor ... Measured 7'1’’ in shoes, with a 7'1’’ wingspan and 242 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy

Rick Pietro 4/12/15

Sounds like a serviceable Tiago Splitter clone. Can't shoot but maybe knows how to finish. He's also young and cheap.

rascal
07-18-2018, 03:11 PM
So eventually we'll be with

PG - Murray
SG - Walker
SF - DeRozan
PF - Aldridge
C - Poeltl

So the spurs don't make any moves in 3 years.

8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 03:18 PM
So the spurs don't make any moves in 3 years.

No we may, I'm just saying right now with the roster where it's at. Honestly I'm excited about Murray/Walker/DeRozan

DieHardSpursFan1537
07-18-2018, 04:35 PM
He's just a trinket that the Raptors threw into the package to seal the deal. He probably won't see many minutes if any.

BackHome
07-18-2018, 04:38 PM
I thought several people were going to leave when trump won
they were moving to canada but never did

They joined ANTIFA and moved to Seattle :lol

ducks
07-18-2018, 04:39 PM
Hey, ducks, when your president flees to Moscow, will you join him?

I LOVE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CITIES
WOULD NOT MIND TAX PLAYERS PAYING FOR MY FLIIGHT AND RIDING AIRFORCE ONE AND TALKING TO PRESIDENT OF THE USA GREATEST COUNTRY IN USA

dbestpro
07-18-2018, 04:48 PM
So eventually we'll be with

PG - Murray
SG - White
SF - DeRozan
PF - Aldridge
C - Poeltl

Fixed

Dex
07-18-2018, 04:50 PM
I love that you can dig through one thread and get 50 different opinions about a guy.

Never change, SpursTalk.

NFO
07-18-2018, 05:40 PM
So nothing but dunks and blocks.

The Spurs lack both those. lol

John B
07-18-2018, 06:19 PM
He dunks with mean intentions and only 22? I like him already :toast

99 Problems
07-18-2018, 06:49 PM
Yer pick 9 in the Ben Simmons draft. I’m hearing last season showed very good development with both hands and feet movement. 7’1” and won’t be getting smaller anytime soon tbh.

LaMarcus Bryant
07-18-2018, 07:25 PM
Ah, yes, the classic "can rebound and block but can't grab a rebound on defensive side" Play

8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 08:39 PM
Fixed

Ok I'm not mad about it but you don't think long term Lonnie Walker is the starting at SG? Might put us in a logjam if all 3 are eventually really good, not a bad situation to be in though.

FkLA
07-18-2018, 09:02 PM
Not going to lie, like everybody here I didn't give him a chance because he's white and European. I thought he was just a soft stiff.

Looks athletic, mobile, and coordinated after watching some of his games though. I'm actually kind of excited about him. Much prefer his skillset over that of a guy like Valanciunas. OG on top of him, Demar, and the 1st would've been a complete rape of TOR for a 1 year rental. Need to ship Pau ASAP to free up minutes for him, tbh.

ceperez
07-18-2018, 09:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoMD6kdpnMg

Big, mobile and has some lift!!!

BSfromTX
07-18-2018, 09:16 PM
Would love to see what Manu could do for his game in the pnr. Manu might not be able to attack like he use to, but he looks good on the roll and you know Manu will set him up.

SPURt
07-18-2018, 09:43 PM
Would love to see what Manu could do for his game in the pnr. Manu might not be able to attack like he use to, but he looks good on the roll and you know Manu will set him up.
Agreed, might be the best pick and roll big Manu has played with since Tiago

tholdren
07-18-2018, 09:45 PM
Can he guard the PNR as well as Spltter? Can he rebound?

Splitter was a shitty rebounder

cutewizard
07-19-2018, 12:18 AM
Would love to see what Manu could do for his game in the pnr. Manu might not be able to attack like he use to, but he looks good on the roll and you know Manu will set him up.


Is Manu returning.?

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-19-2018, 12:19 AM
I already like him at the 5 more than Pau.

Kerr
07-19-2018, 05:40 AM
Dont listen to the emotional cry that he is crap. No fucking way is Siakam better than The Big Fucking Austrian. Poetl can rebound, block and does not back off from contact. He will be very good under Pop. I watched a lot of Rap games llast year and always wanted him on my team. Yes, he fouls but which young player doesnt? In my book he will be better than Valanciunas, Hortat or Vucevic. He needs to get some offensive game, but dude has Got all the tools to play both offence and defence. Very happy that we got him.

Siakam is your next Tolliver. Runs mindlessly and tries to do a bit of everything but wont be good at anything. You cant teach size and he is only 22.

FireMicoHalili
07-19-2018, 06:18 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/34ifr4x.gif

eDizzle20
07-19-2018, 06:39 AM
Not going to lie, like everybody here I didn't give him a chance because he's white and European. I thought he was just a soft stiff.

Looks athletic, mobile, and coordinated after watching some of his games though. I'm actually kind of excited about him. Much prefer his skillset over that of a guy like Valanciunas. OG on top of him, Demar, and the 1st would've been a complete rape of TOR for a 1 year rental. Need to ship Pau ASAP to free up minutes for him, tbh.
I thought he was just a big stiff, but after watching some of the highlights he is quite athletic and mobile. He runs the pick n roll well and does awesome running the floor.

r0drig0lac
07-19-2018, 07:11 AM
at least 2x better than 2018 Gasol for sure

NameLess Scrub
07-19-2018, 07:13 AM
Darko Milicic?

offset formation
07-19-2018, 07:24 AM
If the Karma gods are fair, he'll help us forget that we once had a malignancy that had to be excised. Even small annual improvements make this kid a potential All-star by the time he's reaching his peak in about 8 years. Given his starting tools at 22 and the Spurs development of him, I'm betting he is an All-star by 30, assuming health.

Come on Timmy D. Get in there in teach this kid up. I know you will.

NameLess Scrub
07-19-2018, 10:26 AM
If the Karma gods are fair, he'll help us forget that we once had a malignancy that had to be excised. Even small annual improvements make this kid a potential All-star by the time he's reaching his peak in about 8 years. Given his starting tools at 22 and the Spurs development of him, I'm betting he is an All-star by 30, assuming health.

Come on Timmy D. Get in there in teach this kid up. I know you will.

I second the Timmy part

sasaint
07-19-2018, 10:30 AM
Not going to lie, like everybody here I didn't give him a chance because he's white and European. I thought he was just a soft stiff.

Looks athletic, mobile, and coordinated after watching some of his games though. I'm actually kind of excited about him. Much prefer his skillset over that of a guy like Valanciunas. OG on top of him, Demar, and the 1st would've been a complete rape of TOR for a 1 year rental. Need to ship Pau ASAP to free up minutes for him, tbh.

Pau + sweetener for a starting-caliber SF.

barbacoataco
07-19-2018, 11:48 AM
This is a great pickup and exactly what we need.

Mugen
07-19-2018, 11:54 AM
I'd be more excited for him if we didn't have that shitbag Pau contract on the books.

sananspursfan21
07-19-2018, 12:43 PM
Quite the opposite, only took 2 threes all last season, hitting one.

Shot 73.4% of his FG attempts from 0-3 feet and made 66% of those. That compares favorably to Capela (80% of FG attempts from 0-3 ft distance, 65.3 FG% on those shots).

But I haven't watched Poeltl at all, these are just the numbers.

To be fair, you see the 3pt percentage of 50% you think stretch 5 immediately :lol

TheRemix
07-19-2018, 12:59 PM
looks good. He'll be useful against certain matchups

Russo21
07-19-2018, 01:33 PM
Raptors fans are really high on this guy and pissed he and DDR are gone. Looking forward to seeing them in action. Hopefully DDR gets the green light and Pop utilizes Poeltl as he should be the second best big on the team. He was 1st round 9th pick a few years ago, none of our other bigs come close to that. Jakob + DDR... Awesome!

barbacoataco
07-19-2018, 02:16 PM
Raptors fans are really high on this guy and pissed he and DDR are gone. Looking forward to seeing them in action. Hopefully DDR gets the green light and Pop utilizes Poeltl as he should be the second best big on the team. He was 1st round 9th pick a few years ago, none of our other bigs come close to that. Jakob + DDR... Awesome!
Finally someone I agree with. The Raptors won 59 games last year. That means a lot to me. They're winners who come from a winning mentality. DeRozan is a 4x Allstar who finished top 10 MVP the last two years. Poeltl was the overall 9th pick a couple years ago. Why so negative??

ceperez
07-19-2018, 02:51 PM
Finally someone I agree with. The Raptors won 59 games last year. That means a lot to me. They're winners who come from a winning mentality. DeRozan is a 4x Allstar who finished top 10 MVP the last two years. Poeltl was the overall 9th pick a couple years ago. Why so negative??

I agree. Spurs got a 9th pick. Only Tim Duncan (#1), Aldridge (#2), Gasol (#3), Gay (#8) and DeRozan (#9) at that level.

Ahead of him were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NBA_draft Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown, Buddy Hield.

After him are Maker, Sabonis, ...

Chinook
07-19-2018, 02:54 PM
I agree. Spurs got a 9th pick. Only Tim Duncan (#1), Aldridge (#2), Gasol (#3), Gay (#8) and DeRozan (#9) at that level.

They have five top-10 picks on their roster. That's actually a lot for a team that hasn't drafted there in more than two decades.

ceperez
07-19-2018, 02:56 PM
They have five top-10 picks on their roster. That's actually a lot for a team that hasn't drafted there in more than two decades.

Yeah, I was surprised to find 5 top-10 picks! For the longest time, it was only Duncan!

8FOR!3
07-19-2018, 03:20 PM
Loving the positivity coming into this thread. Poeltl is mostly an unknown commodity to us as Spurs fans, but to me I think he's every bit of the prospect Siakam is. That doesn't mean to say that Siakam doesn't make a big jump this year an standout, but I think Poeltl has just as much upside. Excited for DDR and hope he can take his game to the next level.

ceperez
07-19-2018, 03:32 PM
looks good. He'll be useful against certain matchups

Bigs are still very useful in the regular season. Spurs have 3 7 footers and that can causes a lot of problems for many smaller teams.

Poetl is bigger than Tiago, Baynes or Oberto. We know how well those guys did with so little height and talent.

gambit1990
07-19-2018, 06:38 PM
yeah. he's gonna be an awful point guard

The Spurs lack both those. lol

:lol

gambit1990
07-19-2018, 06:39 PM
splitter 2.0, start him over gasol.

lmbebo
07-19-2018, 06:44 PM
I agree. Spurs got a 9th pick. Only Tim Duncan (#1), Aldridge (#2), Gasol (#3), Gay (#8) and DeRozan (#9) at that level.

Ahead of him were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NBA_draft Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown, Buddy Hield.

After him are Maker, Sabonis, ...

I'd probably say the only person I would have chosen over him was Sabonis looking at the draft results.

gambit1990
07-19-2018, 06:44 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/t6mheNAXXtFNe2NKmh/giphy.gif

TheRemix
07-19-2018, 06:54 PM
Bigs are still very useful in the regular season. Spurs have 3 7 footers and that can causes a lot of problems for many smaller teams.

Poetl is bigger than Tiago, Baynes or Oberto. We know how well those guys did with so little height and talent.

True, but I just see gay and aldridge getting the bulk of the 4 and 5 minutes. Poeltl will be that guy pop will pull out when the spurs need solid rim protection

CGD
07-19-2018, 07:28 PM
Where do we think this leave Mulitinov?
Is it another Livio situation where we end up paying him never to play here?

Joseph Kony
07-19-2018, 07:37 PM
Where do we think this leave Mulitinov?
Is it another Livio situation where we end up paying him never to play here?
Probably. If he didn't come this or last season, I don't see him ever coming tbh

Gordonicci
07-19-2018, 07:37 PM
Where do we think this leave Mulitinov?
Is it another Livio situation where we end up paying him never to play here?
Throw in on a trade if we're lucky.

T Park
07-19-2018, 07:58 PM
With gasol being gone next year there’s no reason to not bring milutinov next season

sasaint
07-19-2018, 10:07 PM
With gasol being gone next year there’s no reason to not bring milutinov next season

Yeah. Don't see why not. A year of house training for Poodle behind Gasol, then a promotion next year when Pau goes bye-bye, with Milutinov coming in as Poodle's back up.

ace3g
07-20-2018, 12:30 AM
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kaji157
07-20-2018, 01:15 AM
He should be able to be somehow of a threat offensively as a pick n roll finisher with Ginóbili. Always as a roll man, kind a like Tiago.
I hope TD helps him in that area and many more.

cd021
07-20-2018, 01:34 AM
He’s a good pick up, and reminds me of Tiago. I’m just disappointed this is the only other peice the Spurs got. That pick is shitty in a shitty draft.
How do you even know it's a shitty draft two years in advance? If the pick conveys then it's useful, if nothing else because of the Spurs track record of finding rotation players with picks in the 20-30 range.

cd021
07-20-2018, 01:49 AM
Where do we think this leave Mulitinov?
Is it another Livio situation where we end up paying him never to play here?

I think he'll come over next off season after Gasol is stretched and waived.

Poeltl, Milutinov, and Metu may end up being the C rotation next season-a very cheap and young rotation

TD 21
07-20-2018, 05:19 PM
Where do we think this leave Mulitinov?
Is it another Livio situation where we end up paying him never to play here?

The same place he was always likely to be, which is as a deep bench player.



I think he'll come over next off season after Gasol is stretched and waived.

Poeltl, Milutinov, and Metu may end up being the C rotation next season-a very cheap and young rotation

More like Aldridge and Poeltl in the rotation, with Milutinov and maybe Metu on the deep bench.

objective
07-20-2018, 09:09 PM
With gasol being gone next year there’s no reason to not bring milutinov next season

I'm not so sure Pau will be stretch-waived anymore. They lost $30 million in expirings with Kawhi and Green.

Stretching Pau won't give them that much room anyway in a summer with a lot of teams that will have a lot more money. Stretching Pau will mean ... $12 million + Room Exception? And that's if they don't use a lot of their MLE remainder this summer or sit on the BAE

I could easily see them keeping Pau for the 'culture'

cjw
07-20-2018, 09:22 PM
I'm not so sure Pau will be stretch-waived anymore. They lost $30 million in expirings with Kawhi and Green.

Stretching Pau won't give them that much room anyway in a summer with a lot of teams that will have a lot more money. Stretching Pau will mean ... $12 million + Room Exception? And that's if they don't use a lot of their MLE remainder this summer or sit on the BAE

I could easily see them keeping Pau for the 'culture'

You’re right. Stretching Gasol only makes sense if they’re moving Mills too to have real cap space. I think a trade that brings in an eight figure a year guy another team is looking to move salary of makes sense.

A Bazemore or Covington type of contract if one of those teams is trying to create more space. They can then stretch Gasol.

SpursDynasty85
07-20-2018, 09:26 PM
Along with DeRozan they get a recent lottery pick that is young and has potential, and another draft pick that could be another DJ, White, Walker IV. Great work RC. I hope Kawhi stays. Will be a steal for Raptors.

Slippy
07-20-2018, 09:39 PM
Im reading this guy has the potential to be a healthy splitter .

He needs to be starting if thats the case. Gasol shouldnt start at all. Problem going to be spacing on offense but im sure spurs coaching will figure it out.

TheGreatYacht
07-20-2018, 11:31 PM
Really hope he's not Splitter tbh....

That pussy never belonged in an NBA court. Thank god we had Diaw to take over when it really mattered.

BD24
07-20-2018, 11:39 PM
Thegreatballfondler with another hot take

Robz4000
07-20-2018, 11:53 PM
Thegreatballfondler with another hot take

Yo, what was your username before Kori changed it for you?

BD24
07-21-2018, 12:37 AM
Yo, what was your username before Kori changed it for you?
Pinoy Maurader

Robz4000
07-21-2018, 12:53 AM
Pinoy Maurader

Done deal

SpurPadre
07-21-2018, 01:16 AM
He seems useful but how the fuck did he get picked 9th overall?

exstatic
07-21-2018, 07:34 AM
Jakob walks into a bar.

The bartender says......why the long face?

/rimshot

John B
07-21-2018, 08:14 AM
Poeltl makes Pau necessary at least for another year to mentor this kid. He can learn a lot from the big Spaniard. At first I was, Poeltl who? But watching his clips and having Gasol to mentor him, and at 22? He could be a great pickup.

SpursDynasty85
07-21-2018, 08:31 AM
Aldridge will play 4 in big line ups. Poeltl or another center was absolutely needed. Made sense for Spurs.

cutewizard
07-21-2018, 08:39 AM
:bobo

Marcus Bryant
07-21-2018, 08:52 AM
Highlights from the Raptors game last season in SA, obviously not a bad line.

H44qeAyndZk

Marcus Bryant
07-21-2018, 08:58 AM
Like his interior defensive presence and ability to run the court, those two attributes will keep him in the league a long time.

Rather good sense for where he needs to be and what he needs to be doing on offense. Defense seems to be more instinctive/reactionary, not necessarily a bad thing when contesting shots at the rim.

Marcus Bryant
07-21-2018, 09:05 AM
And, he's not a Slovenian center. That is always a plus.

This guy is competitive and plays with aggression. On screen rolls he's capable of handling the ball and attacking the rim. Seems to like doing so because that's like 99% of his offensive highlights.

And he's a legit shot blocker. :toast

Marcus Bryant
07-21-2018, 09:31 AM
Since his defense is more reactionary and aggressive, he does tend to foul a lot - his rookie year he averaged 2 fouls a game in 12 minutes. That's an area the Spurs will need to work with him on - maybe Coach Duncan can help a little there. Not to mention defensive rebounding, though he's definitely good to great on the offensive glass.

Looking for highlights to see what, if any, jump shot he has. In olden times teams would work on developing his post game. If this guy had a good 12 to 15 foot jumper that would add $25MM to his next contract easy. Hopefully he's been in a gym shooting jumpers all summer.

Biggems
07-21-2018, 09:59 AM
Put him in the gym with Timmy for a year and he should improve on both ends of the floor, that is, if he can even keep up with 21.

james evans
07-21-2018, 08:37 PM
Im reading this guy has the potential to be a healthy splitter .

He needs to be starting if thats the case. Gasol shouldnt start at all. Problem going to be spacing on offense but im sure spurs coaching will figure it out.
Gasol shouldn't even be in the league.

playbonner15
07-21-2018, 09:39 PM
Liking this signing. Can't wait to see him with Manu and Dejounte. Also will cover some of the defensive weakness if paired with Dejounte. There's some Splitter comparison but this dude can run & defend, block and dunk, although Splitter had great one on one defense when healthy. He's a very good addition to what the team has been lacking since Timmy left and If he develops a midrange shot and a 3 point shot then he'll be a starter in no time.

Seventyniner
07-22-2018, 09:43 AM
I'm not so sure Pau will be stretch-waived anymore. They lost $30 million in expirings with Kawhi and Green.

Stretching Pau won't give them that much room anyway in a summer with a lot of teams that will have a lot more money. Stretching Pau will mean ... $12 million + Room Exception? And that's if they don't use a lot of their MLE remainder this summer or sit on the BAE

I could easily see them keeping Pau for the 'culture'

I haven't paid this much attention before, but do summers tend to alternate where many and then few teams have a lot of cap space? If a bunch of teams have space next summer, they could use most of it on multi-year deals, meaning less total cap space league-wide in 2020.

You're right that stretching Pau's contract is less likely because the Spurs seem to be lining up a bunch of contracts to expire in 2020.

longhorn
07-22-2018, 02:23 PM
From Poetl's Facebook:

"Thank you Toronto, thank you Raptors! For your support, new friendships and our time together! Two great and exciting years. I will start a new chapter in San Antonio now, I'm really looking forward to the new challenge and journey. I want to settle in as quickly as possible and will do everything to support my new team."

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37386774_1957165754328589_4772670287558737920_o.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=909c5d1e6a643e4f21ccbc867ab0aa8b&oe=5BCADBDE

https://www.facebook.com/JakobPoeltl/photos/a.858233837555125.1073741828.857013327677176/1957165750995256

Chinook
07-22-2018, 02:42 PM
I haven't paid this much attention before, but do summers tend to alternate where many and then few teams have a lot of cap space? If a bunch of teams have space next summer, they could use most of it on multi-year deals, meaning less total cap space league-wide in 2020.

You're right that stretching Pau's contract is less likely because the Spurs seem to be lining up a bunch of contracts to expire in 2020.

The Spurs also tend to worry about the tax. They will have to decide to keep Gay or not. Then they'll have the MLE and LLE to use. Who knows if Bertans or Forbes have POs and end up needing them? I don't think it's a good bet that Pau is on the team next year. I strongly doubt he will be stretched. But waived? Great chance, especially as LMA will be even more of a center, and Poeltl should be in line for a solid rotation spot.

The happy medium here would be PATFO finding a way to turn Pau's contract into a good player who has more money guaranteed in 2019-2020, preserving future cap space but not forcing them to keep an old and somewhat useless player for way more money than they have to.

DPG21920
07-22-2018, 02:44 PM
The Spurs also tend to worry about the tax. They will have to decide to keep Gay or not. Then they'll have the MLE and LLE to use. Who knows if Bertans or Forbes have POs and end up needing them? I don't think it's a good bet that Pau is on the team next year. I strongly doubt he will be stretched. But waived? Great chance, especially as LMA will be even more of a center, and Poeltl should be in line for a solid rotation spot.

The happy medium here would be PATFO finding a way to turn Pau's contract into a good player who has more money guaranteed in 2019-2020, preserving future cap space but not forcing them to keep an old and somewhat useless player for way more money than they have to.

No options on Beli/Bertans/Forbes. Confirmed fully guranteed deals.

Chinook
07-22-2018, 02:49 PM
No options on Beli/Bertans/Forbes. Confirmed fully guranteed deals.

Thanks. I mistakenly said Bertans, who could not legally have any option without having three or more years on his contract. But even with that confirmation in hand, the Spurs could still easily threaten the tax next summer. They'll pay Pau if he's worth it, but I don't think they're in position where they won't mind spending $10 Million on a player they no longer want just because they won't have cap space.

NASpurs
07-22-2018, 02:53 PM
From Poetl's Facebook:

"Thank you Toronto, thank you Raptors! For your support, new friendships and our time together! Two great and exciting years. I will start a new chapter in San Antonio now, I'm really looking forward to the new challenge and journey. I want to settle in as quickly as possible and will do everything to support my new team."

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37386774_1957165754328589_4772670287558737920_o.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=909c5d1e6a643e4f21ccbc867ab0aa8b&oe=5BCADBDE

https://www.facebook.com/JakobPoeltl/photos/a.858233837555125.1073741828.857013327677176/1957165750995256

Poeltl mentally got the fuck out of the Raptors organization once he found out he was traded to the Spurs. Changed his FB banner to the Spurs flag, changed his profile pic to him in a Spurs uni and just moved on. He’s on the right foot with me as a fan. :lol It probably helps that in Europe, the Spurs are well known. I think he called the Spurs a historic team in one of his messages.

DPG21920
07-22-2018, 02:58 PM
I agree that the win-now mindset should be less about cap space but flipping guys like Pau/Mills for better roster fit players.

RD2191
07-22-2018, 03:01 PM
Poeltl mentally got the fuck out of the Raptors organization once he found out he was traded to the Spurs. Changed his FB banner to the Spurs flag, changed his profile pic to him in a Spurs uni and just moved on. He’s on the right foot with me as a fan. :lol It probably helps that in Europe, the Spurs are well known. I think he called the Spurs a historic team in one of his messages.

Meanwhile Demar is still contemplating suicide.

RGMCSE
07-22-2018, 05:11 PM
Meanwhile Demar is still contemplating suicide.


Has he even mentioned SA whatsoever? Or is he still crying on a ledge somewhere?

kobyz
07-22-2018, 05:41 PM
Meanwhile Demar is still contemplating suicide.

He's known as dealing with depression, you should be more sensitive...

Kawhitstorm
07-22-2018, 10:47 PM
Warriors Bogut minus the elite passing is his upside.

More like Mozgov before he tore up his knee.........

venitian navigator
07-22-2018, 11:52 PM
An underrated part of then trade is that he plays very well with DDR (i've seen some highliths, butb they seem to naturally fit together)...that makes me think he could be our starting center from the beginning of the season, also to help DDR transitions to our system.

cutewizard
07-23-2018, 01:55 AM
:bobo

Count me in Sir.....

cutewizard
07-23-2018, 08:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaV6AYmvWpU

cutewizard
07-23-2018, 08:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l1CZzyVwkI

MaNu4Tres
07-23-2018, 09:38 AM
He's being overlooked right now.

This kid is a stud. He's so efficient and effective on both ends of the floor.

He's already better than Pau (imo).

Three things I hope for:

- I hope Pop doesn't try to field three centers in the rotation on a consistent basis.

- I hope they are trying to trade Pau right now as we speak.

- Poeltl gets a 20 mpg role off the bench as the main 5.

Fireball
07-23-2018, 09:44 AM
as TIMVP summarized ... he needs to get better on defensive rebounding and not fouling!

NickiRasgo
07-23-2018, 09:53 AM
Has he even mentioned SA whatsoever? Or is he still crying on a ledge somewhere?

He already is. At the Drew League, together with Rudy Gay. Not officially though, just a very short video.

JPB
07-23-2018, 09:57 AM
Poeltl mentally got the fuck out of the Raptors organization once he found out he was traded to the Spurs. Changed his FB banner to the Spurs flag, changed his profile pic to him in a Spurs uni and just moved on. He’s on the right foot with me as a fan. :lol It probably helps that in Europe, the Spurs are well known. I think he called the Spurs a historic team in one of his messages.

Spurs have a very good reputation in Europe due to their historically euro-like type of play (uselfish, more tactical) and overall philosophy as well as respect Pop and RC have shown very early on to euro-ball.

But yeah, seeing Jak already aknoledging the spurs and showing more attention and carefulness than Kawhitter in his whole tenure (not to mnetion his departure) tells you everything you need to know about the Flaw.

BackHome
07-23-2018, 07:53 PM
He's being overlooked right now.

This kid is a stud. He's so efficient and effective on both ends of the floor.

He's already better than Pau (imo).

Three things I hope for:

- I hope Pop doesn't try to field three centers in the rotation on a consistent basis.

- I hope they are trying to trade Pau right now as we speak.

- Poeltl gets a 20 mpg role off the bench as the main 5.


Good write up! I agree Pau should be moved this year if we can find the right person if not moved or let go next year. But he is done as far as Spurs player. In reality Pau, Forbes, Paul, should all be gone and don't tell me that Nikola, Hanga, Livio are not better then those three guys.

ceperez
07-23-2018, 07:59 PM
Good write up! I agree Pau should be moved this year if we can find the right person if not moved or let go next year. But he is done as far as Spurs player. In reality Pau, Forbes, Paul, should all be gone and don't tell me that Nikola, Hanga, Livio are not better then those three guys.

Wait, was Livio any good?

Leetonidas
07-23-2018, 08:09 PM
He's obviously never seen LJC play because he's awful :lol

DJR210
07-23-2018, 08:34 PM
With Poeltl it looks like Pop will be able to play his "funnel into the shot blocker down low" defense that hasn't really been effective since Duncan/Tiago

Down Under
07-23-2018, 08:47 PM
The Euro bigs normally take a few years till they get respect from the Refs. Splitter's first 2 he fouled at a higher rate than after.

TimDunkem
07-23-2018, 08:47 PM
He's obviously never seen LJC play because he's awful :lol

LJC can literally do nothing well on a basketball court. Wtf is he smoking :lmao

Frank Dux
07-23-2018, 08:49 PM
He'll be even better than Robertas Javtokas.

SpurPadre
07-23-2018, 08:50 PM
He seems like a decent player but it's hard to see how he was picked 9th overall or is talented enough to warrant such a pick.

Snaq O'Meal
07-23-2018, 09:00 PM
He seems like a decent player but it's hard to see how he was picked 9th overall or is talented enough to warrant such a pick.

He was the highest rated center in that draft.

BackHome
07-23-2018, 11:03 PM
Livio - Actually I would agree with in the past but went to three games in Austin he looked really good. He has seemed to fully recover from his knee injury he was scoring from all over was rebounding, blocking shots, and even has some nice
assist. So yeah I am not saying he is K-Y but the kid is a tall athletic player we desperately need.

ceperez
07-25-2018, 12:03 PM
https://raptorsrapture.com/2018/07/24/toronto-raptors-jakob-poeltl-will-hard-replace/

marinoman
07-25-2018, 12:38 PM
He’s a homeless mans Clint Capela....for now

sasaint
07-25-2018, 02:19 PM
https://raptorsrapture.com/2018/07/24/toronto-raptors-jakob-poeltl-will-hard-replace/

Interesting read. Thanks for the link.

sasaint
07-25-2018, 02:21 PM
Livio - Actually I would agree with in the past but went to three games in Austin he looked really good. He has seemed to fully recover from his knee injury he was scoring from all over was rebounding, blocking shots, and even has some nice
assist. So yeah I am not saying he is K-Y but the kid is a tall athletic player we desperately need.

Actually not a terrible idea. People were remarking that he finally seemed to be coming around when he went back to France.

ceperez
07-25-2018, 04:22 PM
Actually not a terrible idea. People were remarking that he finally seemed to be coming around when he went back to France.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurocup/707257/livio-jean-charles-signs-three-year-deal-with-asvel/

sasaint
07-25-2018, 04:29 PM
https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurocup/707257/livio-jean-charles-signs-three-year-deal-with-asvel/

Thanks again. Might have been interesting to see him in the Spurs camp this summer.

ceperez
07-25-2018, 09:02 PM
Thanks again. Might have been interesting to see him in the Spurs camp this summer.

"Jean-Charles last played for Spanish club Unicaja Malaga. In eight games of the 2017-2018 ACB, the French forward averaged 4.1 points and 3.1 rebounds over 13 minutes per match."

Now, I've got no idea why he was even drafted. Also, Spurs where one pick away from getting Gobert.

sasaint
07-25-2018, 09:28 PM
"Jean-Charles last played for Spanish club Unicaja Malaga. In eight games of the 2017-2018 ACB, the French forward averaged 4.1 points and 3.1 rebounds over 13 minutes per match."

Now, I've got no idea why he was even drafted. Also, Spurs where one pick away from getting Gobert.

Yeah, I saw the Unicaja Malaga line. But I don't really know what to make of those Euroleague stats, tbh. You sometimes see NBA coaches and front offices and commentators go gaga over some guy whose stats are very pedestrian. For instance, what has Milutinov ever accomplished? Why was he even drafted? On the other hand, some guys who put up some pretty good numbers in Europe have already busted in the NBA and many who haven't don't get cursory interest from the NBA.

cutewizard
07-26-2018, 05:45 AM
The center of the future

May he learn a lot from Timmy and David..

.

Maddog
07-26-2018, 07:47 AM
Yeah, I saw the Unicaja Malaga line. But I don't really know what to make of those Euroleague stats, tbh. You sometimes see NBA coaches and front offices and commentators go gaga over some guy whose stats are very pedestrian. For instance, what has Milutinov ever accomplished? Why was he even drafted? On the other hand, some guys who put up some pretty good numbers in Europe have already busted in the NBA and many who haven't don't get cursory interest from the NBA.

Milutinov was drafted purely as he had a modicum of potential and wasn't ready to come over. This was the summer they wanted to have cap space and signed LMA

BackHome
07-26-2018, 02:56 PM
Looked back at grades from draft and most gave a A to Toronto for drafting him 9th. I believe Forbes gave the pick a A- and they gave the next pick Thon Maker a D the Bucks 10th pick.

As far as this kid I think he is a more athletic Nestrovich. He is not an enforcer and is not very physical as far as being able to be able to bang with bigs.

Just curious who do you think is better this kid or Nikola? Is it possible that after Gasol leaves we have both on our team?

johnnymoore
07-26-2018, 03:07 PM
He's a stiff. 11th man a la Miles Plumlee - ceiling is Mason Plumlee.

slick'81
07-26-2018, 03:19 PM
He's a stiff. 11th man a la Miles Plumlee - ceiling is Mason Plumlee.

spurs new rasho:lol

sasaint
07-26-2018, 03:24 PM
spurs new rasho:lol

Seems much more athletic to me. I am keeping my fingers crossed that with some exposure to Tim, he can develop into a decent rotation piece.

barbacoataco
07-26-2018, 03:32 PM
He has great stats both in blocks and defensive +\- and that is the most exciting thing to me. The Spurs need defense after losing Green and Anderson. Aldridge is an underrated defender. I think the Spurs are thinking that as long as they have Murray and always have either Aldridge or Poeltl on the court, it will help them get away with having some DeRozan, Belinelli and no real defensive SF. It might work if you use the classic Spur strategy of funneling towards the big man.

RiverwalkParade
07-26-2018, 04:06 PM
The funnel strategy worked before the league started jacking up 3s every time down the floor. Not sure it’s effective with wings that don’t play D

BackHome
07-26-2018, 04:09 PM
I am just glad we got a big I get so frustrated watching Gasol get the ball down low while being guarded by. 6’5 Guard and he passes out of or gets the ball stolen.

sasaint
07-26-2018, 05:10 PM
The funnel strategy worked before the league started jacking up 3s every time down the floor. Not sure it’s effective with wings that don’t play D

Probably not very effective against teams that don't even want to get to the hole. Hard to funnel guys inside who only want to shoot a 3-ball.

tonight...you
07-26-2018, 05:15 PM
The funnel strategy worked before the league started jacking up 3s every time down the floor. Not sure it’s effective with wings that don’t play D
Might be seeing the team face up more hard at the 3 point line angling for a funnel, inviting a drive into a big's face.
Good passers can defeat this so we'll see how that goes, if they go with that.

cutewizard
07-26-2018, 06:23 PM
Splitter 2.0 tbh

Marcus Bryant
07-26-2018, 06:45 PM
Looked back at grades from draft and most gave a A to Toronto for drafting him 9th. I believe Forbes gave the pick a A- and they gave the next pick Thon Maker a D the Bucks 10th pick.

As far as this kid I think he is a more athletic Nestrovich. He is not an enforcer and is not very physical as far as being able to be able to bang with bigs.

Just curious who do you think is better this kid or Nikola? Is it possible that after Gasol leaves we have both on our team?

Holy fuck do not speak that name.

Play Boban
07-26-2018, 07:22 PM
spurs new rasho:lol
1. Wrong.

2. Delete your signature ASAP. Disgusting!

cutewizard
07-26-2018, 07:24 PM
1. Wrong.

2. Delete your signature ASAP. Disgusting!


:bobo

wildbill2u
07-27-2018, 06:57 PM
the more I read about this guy. the more I think he might be the key to another great FO steal.

hooperflash
07-29-2018, 12:06 PM
Where the hell did his Twitter account go? :lol

Fusternino
07-29-2018, 12:08 PM
Where the hell did his Twitter account go? :lol

It might've been reported . . . it was JaCobPoeltl when you'd think it's be JaKobPoeltl.

LittleCriminal
07-29-2018, 01:46 PM
Any chance Bill Land will scream *Purddle Power* sometime this season??

dbestpro
07-29-2018, 02:00 PM
Any chance Bill Land will scream *Purddle Power* sometime this season??

No.

LittleCriminal
07-29-2018, 09:58 PM
No.

Why not?

cutewizard
07-29-2018, 11:43 PM
Beyond Splitter

Awwwwwwwwww

cutewizard
07-29-2018, 11:44 PM
Future super center, destroyer of the Warriors

look_at_g_shred
07-30-2018, 02:36 PM
Any chance Bill Land will scream *Purddle Power* sometime this season??
Line is starting at -500

Maddog
07-30-2018, 03:54 PM
Poeltl may end up being a really solid addition. He was already a an 18 minutes per game player for a 59 win team. Young. Good shot blocker.
I never know how well these things ever work out, but having him work with Pau as far as skills in the post goes is a plus.
We all- or least a majority, complain about Pau, but he does have skills.

RD2191
07-30-2018, 05:15 PM
Poeltl may end up being a really solid addition. He was already a an 18 minutes per game player for a 59 win team. Young. Good shot blocker.
I never know how well these things ever work out, but having him work with Pau as far as skills in the post goes is a plus.
We all- or least a majority, complain about Pau, but he did have skills.

FIFY

cutewizard
07-31-2018, 07:31 AM
Poeltl may end up being a really solid addition. He was already a an 18 minutes per game player for a 59 win team. Young. Good shot blocker.
I never know how well these things ever work out, but having him work with Pau as far as skills in the post goes is a plus.
We all- or least a majority, complain about Pau, but he does have skills.


:bobo

ceperez
07-31-2018, 03:08 PM
Poeltl may end up being a really solid addition. He was already a an 18 minutes per game player for a 59 win team. Young. Good shot blocker.
I never know how well these things ever work out, but having him work with Pau as far as skills in the post goes is a plus.
We all- or least a majority, complain about Pau, but he does have skills.

I'm not going to be surprised that he starts. Dedmond played 17.5 minutes/game with the Spurs. He started in 37 of those games.

Poetl is likely a better center than Dedmond.

Big Empty
07-31-2018, 03:39 PM
Any chance Bill Land will scream *Purddle Power* sometime this season??
I was annoyed by “KaWOW” This would be worse. Hell Now that u mention it i just hope he doesnt yell Purty Purddle

Seventyniner
07-31-2018, 04:03 PM
Line is starting at -500

Way too generous. I would put money on -5000.

cutewizard
07-31-2018, 05:57 PM
I'm not going to be surprised that he starts. Dedmond played 17.5 minutes/game with the Spurs. He started in 37 of those games.

Poetl is likely a better center than Dedmond.


:bobo

alpha_HaZE
07-31-2018, 06:14 PM
According to Basketball-Reference Poeltl was 4th in Offensive Win Shares, Win Shares, and Win Shares per 48 minutes. Also, he was 6th in Deffensive Win Shares. And that was on a Raptors team that did pretty well.

His per36 numbers were very comparable to Gasol's

Jakob fouls a lot more than Pau does and that could be a concern moving forward, but that's the only concern. People talk about his shooting (no range) but am confident that would change. Actually, Jakob had a much higher True Shooting Percentage than Pau, and that's very encouraging. Pau was 9th on our team last year and Jakob would have been 4th. Does that ring a bell? :)

He is still young and his game will improve each and every summer and am so excited to have him on our team.

Seventyniner
07-31-2018, 06:46 PM
According to Basketball-Reference Poeltl was 4th in Offensive Win Shares, Win Shares, and Win Shares per 48 minutes. Also, he was 6th in Deffensive Win Shares. And that was on a Raptors team that did pretty well.

His per36 numbers were very comparable to Gasol's

Jakob fouls a lot more than Pau does and that could be a concern moving forward, but that's the only concern. People talk about his shooting (no range) but am confident that would change. Actually, Jakob had a much higher True Shooting Percentage than Pau, and that's very encouraging. Pau was 9th on our team last year and Jakob would have been 4th. Does that ring a bell? :)

He is still young and his game will improve each and every summer and am so excited to have him on our team.

A team can support one rim-rolling big with no range, especially these Spurs because every 4 they can put on the floor has range to at least 20 feet.

ace3g
07-31-2018, 07:16 PM
Outside of a new team, conference, teammates and a new head coach, Poeltl will also be looking for a new jersey number.
In Toronto, he wore No. 42 but that number is already taken by forward Davis Bertans.
And he knows he'll be in the market for a new jersey number and may have already picked one out.
"It will probably be 25," said Jakob.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/jakob-poeltl-sees-big-opportunity-to-shine-with-spurs-picks-new-jersey-number

objective
07-31-2018, 09:12 PM
Any chance Bill Land will scream *Purddle Power* sometime this season??

Can't be worse than "Sparty Triple" for Forbes

Play Boban
07-31-2018, 09:35 PM
https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/jakob-poeltl-sees-big-opportunity-to-shine-with-spurs-picks-new-jersey-number
He should take the number 2.

Ron Swanson
07-31-2018, 09:37 PM
https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/jakob-poeltl-sees-big-opportunity-to-shine-with-spurs-picks-new-jersey-number

Give him #2

offset formation
07-31-2018, 09:49 PM
He should take the number 2.

I'm torn on this, actually. Part of me would like to see it as the seasonal number given to one of the two-way contracts, for perpetuity, for a couple reasons.
1. It would be a message that the number will never hang in the rafters.
2. It would underscore the notion that only players that give their all and bust their ass for their team get to don it.
3. A reminder that dedication to the team, and loyalty is the opposite of what Kawhi ultimately embodied here

That said, I'd be thrilled if a Spurs guy, like a Murray or White took it and then made a HOF career wearing it. So that in time, it was never even remotely associated with Kawhrisis.

Either way would probably be fine by me, tbh.

gambit1990
08-05-2018, 01:32 PM
charles barkley said jakob's "one of the most underrated players in the nba."

DPG21920
08-05-2018, 03:39 PM
Not that it means anything but Poeltl got destroyed twice last season: Dwight Howard & Josh Jackson got him bad.

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Ed Helicopter Jones
08-05-2018, 03:54 PM
Not that it means anything but Poeltl got destroyed twice last season: Dwight Howard & Josh Jackson...

Looked like he got lazy on Howard, and tripped over his own feet on Jackson. He’s got some pretty impressive defensive highlights to his credit out there too. I think he’ll be fine. With Pau, LMA, and hopefully TD mentoring him a bit I’d expect his skill set to rise this year.

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-05-2018, 03:57 PM
Some people are saying Splitter 2.0. If we got anything close to Splitter without all the injuries that would be awesome.

Play Boban
08-05-2018, 04:20 PM
Some people are saying Splitter 2.0. If we got anything close to Splitter without all the injuries that would be awesome.

He'll be better than Tiago tbh.

ace3g
08-05-2018, 08:54 PM
I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger will cameo at any Spurs games being that Jakob is the only Austrian NBA player.

cutewizard
08-05-2018, 10:27 PM
I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger will cameo at any Spurs games being that Jakob is the only Austrian NBA player.


:flag:

Mr. Body
08-05-2018, 10:35 PM
Not that it means anything but Poeltl got destroyed twice last season: Dwight Howard & Josh Jackson got him bad.

936048752703422464

938231537325273089

So what? Every shot blocker is going to get dunked on.

NameLess Scrub
08-06-2018, 07:51 AM
Good luck as a victory cigar, Yakaw Purrdle

monkeypunk
08-06-2018, 08:17 AM
Looked like he got lazy on Howard, and tripped over his own feet on Jackson. He’s got some pretty impressive defensive highlights to his credit out there too. I think he’ll be fine. With Pau, LMA, and hopefully TD mentoring him a bit I’d expect his skill set to rise this year.

This. He didn't get destroyed, his man got past him and dunked on someone else.

TimDunkem
08-06-2018, 11:03 AM
OMG A RIM PROTECTOR GOT DUNKED ON. NEVER HAVE I SEEN THAT BEFORE IN THE NBA.

Hoops Czar
08-06-2018, 03:14 PM
That dude is going to end up on some posters and none of them are going to say Jakob Poeltl

cd98
08-06-2018, 06:06 PM
Tim has been posterized too. Not that I should be mentioning Jacob Poeltl in the same sentence as Tim Duncan.

Play Boban
08-06-2018, 09:10 PM
That dude is going to end up on some posters and none of them are going to say Jakob Poeltl
:cry

Play Boban
08-06-2018, 09:10 PM
:lol So many salty Deadman fans in here tbh :lol

cutewizard
08-06-2018, 09:20 PM
Lets give The Chancellor Jacob a chance.......

offset formation
08-07-2018, 08:50 AM
:lol So many salty Deadman fans in here tbh :lol

Kind of pathetic, really.

Truth4sale$
08-07-2018, 09:40 AM
I really can't wait to see Popovich get to work on Poeltl. I think the coaching staff, along with veterans Aldridge and Paul and occasionally the wisdom of Duncan when he passes thru will do wonders for him. I would like to throw him to the wolves, and start him to get him involved and learn the system as soon as possible. I think he can provide the defense nd rebounding that Paul cannot, and that is worth a start alone.

kaji157
08-07-2018, 10:25 AM
Clearly he'll start of the bench, because playing with that unit has always been easier for bigs because of what Manu generates on offense for them.

Hoops Czar
08-07-2018, 11:53 AM
Kind of pathetic, really.
Not anywhere near as pathetic as Pop apologists.