Central America is Invading Mexico

[Winehole23]

Chrisbot right on cue

[MultiTroll]

Never mind that you've not shown that the caravan poses any specific threat to the USA.
But one example.
Are the vast majority of ms-13's immigrants?
And while many no doubt became members after arriving, did not many come under the guise of immigration when they were already full fledged members?

Straws: So the entire caravan is ms-13?
answer. No. For all I know none of them are. But I'll some are. If not ms-idiots probably part of some other criminal enterprise.

[Winehole23]

MS -13 is real, but the threat is overhyped. dangerous people can come from anywhere.

as a cohort, Central American immigrants are not only less likely to be incarcerated than native citizens, they are notably less likely to be incarcerated than immigrants from any other region.

(I posted a cite for this upstream, I'll post it again if you like.)

[Chris]

MS -13 is real

Thanks for the confirmation, I was on the fence.

[MultiTroll]

Snowflake Nation likes to burn on Don for his "best and brightest".

Here's another B and B taking down a Colts player:
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2018/02/05/driver-accused-killing-colts-player-edwin-jackson-undocumented-immigrant-has-been-deported-twice/306779002/

[Winehole23]

anecdotes are real too, but they're just anecdotes.

one data point does not a correlation make. media hype enables the availability fallacy big time.

[Blake]

Obama thought there was 57 states :lmao

I'd like to see your IQ test

[ElNono]

Birthright citizenship in the 21st century is very puzzling

Major example of why I oppose socialist aspects in America

IIRC, there’s 40+ countries that have birthright citizenship. It’s neither rare nor puzzling...

[MultiTroll]

IIRC, there’s 40+ countries that have birthright citizenship. It’s neither rare nor puzzling...
and how many are flocking to the the non U.S. ones to score the citizenship bennies?

[MultiTroll]

IIRC, there’s 40+ countries that have birthright citizenship. It’s neither rare nor puzzling...
Altho I would think scoring a Sweden or Norway type citizenship might be cool. ;)

[ElNono]

Altho I would think scoring a Sweden or Norway type citizenship might be cool. ;)

The point is there’s nothing puzzling about it in the 21st century. Arguably it makes much more sense now than ever, considering globalization, etc.

[pgardn]

That's not my point with that quote. My point is having an IQ test as part of a merit based legal system is perfectly reasonable. Allowing people to walk across the border is not.

wtf do you think IQ measures?

Leadership ability, ability to work with and motivate others?

You are lost.
You need to take a fckn IQ test to test how much you know about IQ tests.

[Chris]

I'd like to see your IQ test

I'd like to see you post anything besides a low IQ snark.

[ducks]

I'd like to see Trump's IQ test

Larger then yours

[MultiTroll]

I'd like to see you post anything besides a low IQ snark.
;) rack it.

[MultiTroll]

IIRC, there’s 40+ countries that have birthright citizenship. It’s neither rare nor puzzling...
So lets get back to the question.
How many are wanting citizenship via birth in non U.S. countries?

[Nathan89]

IIRC, there’s 40+ countries that have birthright citizenship. It’s neither rare nor puzzling...

It's rare for good countries.

[Nathan89]

"Since the Twenty-seventh Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland was enacted in 2004, no European country grants citizenship based on unconditional or near-unconditional jus soli.[8][9]

Almost all states in Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania grant citizenship at birth based upon the principle of jus sanguinis (right of blood), in which citizenship is inherited through parents not by birthplace, or a restricted version of jus soli in which citizenship by birthplace is automatic only for the children of certain immigrants."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/GJY4yHeYSjw

How many Dems will publicly say this today? Probably none.

[boutons_deux]

DHS Agents in Riot Gear Close U.S.-Mexico Border for Caravan That’s 1,500 Miles Away

Holding guns and

wearing face masks,

officers marched over one of the busiest international crossings.

Advocates say it’s intimidation,

not preparation for unarmed poor people.

https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1540932301/181030-Glawe-US-riot-cops-caravan-tease-1_ajj0bc

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dhs-agents-in-riot-gear-close-us-mexico-border-for-caravan-thats-1500-miles-away/#nws=mcnewsletter

Trash's AmeriKKKa the Ugly Reality TV Show

[MultiTroll]

^ Did you ever answer how many of them will be staying with you?

[Blake]

I'd like to see you post anything besides a low IQ snark.


If you can't find my posts then it just further confirms my suspicions about your IQ.

[Blake]

Larger then yours

Well it's documented that Chris struggles with simple math and grammar so probably not.

[Winehole23]

^ Did you ever answer how many of them will be staying with you?will you be stopping them yourself?

what are you doing to prevent the caravan from getting here?

[MultiTroll]

will you be stopping them yourself?

what are you doing to prevent the caravan from getting here?
1. what Chump?
2. paying taxes. Which Donny is putting to good use.

[Winehole23]

nothing, in other words

[Winehole23]

what would you say about Obama using the US Army as a midterm election prop?

[MultiTroll]

will you be stopping them yourself?

what are you doing to prevent the caravan from getting here?
:lol your actions?
nothing in other words.

[MultiTroll]

Snowflake Nation posters,
Do you put any of this solution on their country of origin?

[Pavlov]

1. what Chump?
2. paying taxes. Which Donny is putting to good use.What is the military actually doing at the border, Fabbs?

[boutons_deux]

Snowflake Nation posters,
Do you put any of this solution on their country of origin?

do you put any of the causes of the failed states of the Northern Triangle on decades of meddling by USA/CIA?

[Winehole23]

Snowflake Nation posters,
Do you put any of this solution on their country of origin?the solution to what? people voting with their feet?

the countries of origin are the problem, not the refugees therefrom

[Chris]

lol non-problem

6kWA4c3U8i8

[MultiTroll]

do you put any of the causes of the failed states of the Northern Triangle on decades of meddling by USA/CIA?
Yes. The U.S. should have just taken over these countries a long time ago. Including Mexico.

[Winehole23]

6kWA4c3U8i8Mexican cops caught the shooters. Problem solved.

[MultiTroll]

the countries of origin are the problem, not the refugees therefrom
:clap
Now you know where the solution lies.

[Winehole23]

For the refugees, the solution is not to be found in the countries of origin. That's why they left.

[Winehole23]

so the Trump tweet about the cop killer is radioactive?

new low in presidential fear mongering, tbh

[boutons_deux]

https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2018/10/1071908_1_1030-perceptiongaps3_large.jpg?alias=original_1200

https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2018/1029/Revenge-of-the-Robots?j=104835&sfmc_sub=38882700&l=1219_HTML&u=3556216&mid=10979696&jb=28&cmpid=ema:ScienceAndNature:20181101&src=newsletter

[Nathan89]

That's a lot of illegal immigrants suppressing American wages. I was told the Dems were for the poor. That was a lie.

[Nathan89]

For the refugees, the solution is not to be found in the countries of origin. That's why they left.

Apparently not to be found in Mexico either.

[rjv]

Yes. The U.S. should have just taken over these countries a long time ago. Including Mexico.

with the exception of mexico, they basically have.

[Winehole23]

here's one:

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/why-hiring-more-judges-would-reduce-immigration-court-backlogs/

[Winehole23]

would save hundreds of millions in detention costs alone

[MultiTroll]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png OP by Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9582069#post9582069)
For the refugees, the solution is not to be found in the countries of origin. That's why they left.



Apparently not to be found in Mexico either.
no chit. Where's all the outrage against Mex?

Boutie, Winehole, Trump Haters?

[Winehole23]

Re: the "skyrocketing" problem of so-called “anchor babies”, otherwise known as native US citizens:


“We are talking about the birth of 370,000 children over a period of 26 years. 370,000 — in a population of 325,000,000. We are talking about a cohort of children spread out over more than a quarter of a century, eventually reaching a total of … 0.1 percent of the populationhttp://www.chris-floyd.com/mobile/articles/toxic-tropes-skyrocketing-racism-through-respectable-journalism-30102018.html

[Nathan89]

Illegals and birthright make the entire Dem platform illogical. All their positions on climate change, education, healthcare, minimum wage, Ubi, etc do not make sense because of their anti-American stance on immigration. There is a reason the welfare states the left glorify don't have birthright.

[spurraider21]

Illegals and birthright make the entire Dem platform illogical. All their positions on climate change, education, healthcare, minimum wage, Ubi, etc do not make sense because of their anti-American stance on immigration. There is a reason the welfare states the left glorify don't have birthright.
:lmao

[Pavlov]

Nathan is illogical.

[FrostKing]

Re: the "skyrocketing" problem of so-called “anchor babies”, otherwise known as native US citizens:

http://www.chris-floyd.com/mobile/articles/toxic-tropes-skyrocketing-racism-through-respectable-journalism-30102018.html
"About 295,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2013, making up 8% of the 3.9 million U.S. births that year, according to a new, preliminary Pew Research Center estimate based on the latest available federal government data. This was a decline from a peak of 370,000 in 2007."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/09/11/number-of-babies-born-in-u-s-to-unauthorized-immigrants-declines/%3famp=1

Nearly 1/10 births. That's enormous

[spurraider21]

Nathan is illogical.
he just says ridiculous, overdramatic things and assumes everyone agrees

"will be the end of the US"... "anti-american stance on immigration"

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/GJY4yHeYSjw

Dems use to recognize this but now they pandering to illegals and those with alliance to illegals for votes. Sorry but Dems are throwing American citizens under the bus. No sane country would do this because it is detrimental.

[Pavlov]

https://youtu.be/GJY4yHeYSjw

Dems use to recognize this but now they pandering to illegals and those with alliance to illegals for votes. Sorry but Dems are throwing American citizens under the bus. No sane country would do this because it is detrimental.Nathan, would you consider yourself an easily manipulated person?

[Winehole23]

"About 295,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2013, making up 8% of the 3.9 million U.S. births that year, according to a new, preliminary Pew Research Center estimate based on the latest available federal government data. This was a decline from a peak of 370,000 in 2007."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/09/11/number-of-babies-born-in-u-s-to-unauthorized-immigrants-declines/%3famp=1

Nearly 1/10 births. That's enormousAll native born citizens. It's pretty much always been that way. If you're born here not to a diplomat or a slave (pre-1866) you're a US citizen.

What's the problem with all these native born US citizens, as you see it?

[FrostKing]

All native born citizens. It's pretty much always been that way. If you're born here not to a diplomat or a slave (pre-1866) you're a US citizen.

What's the problem with all these native born US citizens, as you see it?
"Native"?

Those Americans were banished to reservations

[Winehole23]

https://youtu.be/GJY4yHeYSjw

Dems use to recognize this but now they pandering to illegals and those with alliance to illegals for votes. Sorry but Dems are throwing American citizens under the bus. No sane country would do this because it is detrimental.We've always done it this way. Pretty much every one here has family roots in another country.

Hasn't ruined us yet. Might even be one of the best things about the US.

[Winehole23]

"Native"?

Those Americans were banished to reservations

I meant native in the legal sense, as in native born. You're talking about aboriginal natives. Two different sense of the same word.

[Nathan89]

Illegals and birthright make the entire Dem platform illogical. All their positions on climate change, education, healthcare, minimum wage, Ubi, etc do not make sense because of their anti-American stance on immigration. There is a reason the welfare states the left glorify don't have birthright.

Anyone care to explain how importing the developing world to the US is good for the environment? Most important issue of our time apparently. Or how illegal immigrants coexist with all the other big government plans? Seems that will incentivize more and more illegals and ultimately repel the best talent in the world that we currently attract.

On the other hand I would prefer the US not treat the country like a charity. Let the best brains in the world come to the US. Let them innovate the solutions of the future and let them get rich in the process (without taxing them to death). Yes, I want the next Elon Musk, scientist, engineer, entrepreneur, etc to say the best place in the world to opperate is the US. Unfortunately, that will not be the future for this country.

[spurraider21]

Great! Now play the video of Bill Clinton talking about illegal immigration. Then quote Joe Biden about confirming a SCOTUS nominee.

[FrostKing]

We've always done it this way. Pretty much every one here has family roots in another country.

Hasn't ruined us yet. Might even be one of the best things about the US.
Are you supporting this because Trump is against? Or because constitution?

You know it complicates separating children of illegals. Loop hole to keep them in this country on humanitarian grounds

[Winehole23]

Lot of begged questions there, Nathan89. Would take awhile to untangle.

How about you explain why it won't work and we can go from there?

[Pavlov]

Anyone care to explain how importing the developing world to the US is good for the environment? Most important issue of our time apparently. Or how illegal immigrants coexist with all the other big government plans? Seems that will incentivize more and more illegals and ultimately repel the best talent in the world that we currently attract.

On the other hand I would prefer the US not treat the country like a charity. Let the best brains in the world come to the US. Let them innovate the solutions of the future and let them get rich in the process (without taxing them to death). Yes, I want the next Elon Musk, scientist, engineer, entrepreneur, etc to say the best place in the world to opperate is the US. Unfortunately, that will not be the future for this country.How did this become your #1 burning issue, Nathan?

[FrostKing]

Lot of begged questions there. Would take awhile to untangle.

How about you explain why it won't work and we can go from there?
I just don't like granting citizenship so easily.

[Winehole23]

Are you supporting this because...tradition and Constitution.

Looking back at the broad sweep of US history, immigration has been a good thing. I still think it is.

Anyone at all can make anything of him or herself here.

Even non-white people of scanty means.

Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, all that. Not only are we still rich enough, we need the dynamism the diversity and the productive capabilities. We still need the people from all over the world who want to be here.

[Winehole23]

I just don't like granting citizenship so easily.it's the custom here. get used to it.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Says He Told U.S. Military at Border to ‘Consider it a Rifle’ if Migrants Throw Rocks

he said that the United States military will consider a rock held in the hands of migrants the same as a firearm.

"When you get hit in the face with a rock, which as you know,

that was very violent a few days ago.

Very, very violent.”

“They’re throwing rocks, viciously, and violently.

You saw that three days ago. Really hurting the military. We’re not going to put up with that.

They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back.

We’re gonna consider, and I told them consider it a rifle.

When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police, I say consider it a rifle.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-says-he-told-u-s-military-at-border-to-consider-it-a-rifle-if-migrants-throw-rocks/

BiBi would agee.

They are dehumanized animals and rapists and murderous rock throwers, so kill as many as possible.

[FrostKing]

...tradition and Constitution.

Looking back at the broad sweep of US history, immigration has been a good thing. I still think it is.

Anyone at all can make anything of him or herself here.

Even non-white people of scanty means.

Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, all that. Not only are we still rich enough, we need the dynamism the diversity and the productive capabilities. We still need the people from all over the world who want to be here.
US needs skilled immigration because K-12 is relatively poor quality

I think parents should be citizens OR they must go thru the process. Majority of nations do not practice birth right. And I believe there is logical reason for that.

I guess you could argue America is still in horizontal expansion mode and the more strip malls the better. I would prefer vertical mindset and for example improving K-12, not just building more schools

[Winehole23]

The trend, believe it or not, is toward Asian immigrants with four year college degrees.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Says He’ll Restrict Asylum Claims To Ports Of Entry, Contrary To Law

Trump on Thursday said he would order border agents to refuse to consider the asylum claims of people apprehended while crossing the border between ports of entry —

though immigration lawyers asserted the move runs afoul of U.S. and international law.



Trump made the announcement

after a wave of falsehoods, many of them racially charged,

about what he again called an “invasion” of Central American migrants and asylum seekers currently traveling toward the U.S. border.

“Migrants seeking asylum will have to present themselves lawfully at a port of entry,” Trump said.
Immigration lawyers and experts pounced on the comments:

Aaron Reichlin-Melnick@ReichlinMelnick
(https://twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick)
Our asylum law is crystal clear that you don't need to go to a port of entry to apply for asylum.

8 USC § 1158(a) states that "Any alien who is physically present in the [US] or who arrives in the [US] (Whether or not at a designated port of arrival...) may apply for asylum."





Aaron Reichlin-Melnick@ReichlinMelnick
(https://twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick)
(https://twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick)Barring asylum to people who cross between ports would violate the law.

Asylum is available to all, even those who don't cross at ports of entry.

Not to mention, CBP has been blocking people from applying at ports of entry!

That's why we sued to stop their illegal practice.

12:56 PM - Nov 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1058055066614153216)

===


Elizabeth Goitein@LizaGoitein (https://twitter.com/LizaGoitein)



(https://twitter.com/LizaGoitein)POTUS implying that he's going to end the right to seek asylum for those who enter in places other than ports of entry.

That will require a change in the law, not a presidential speech.

3:40 PM - Nov 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/LizaGoitein/status/1058096413710671872)

The Trump administration is being sued (https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018/10/15/splc-lawsuit-challenges-trump-administration%E2%80%99s-turnback-policy-against-asylum-seekers) for turning away asylum seekers from lawful ports of entry.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-says-hell-restrict-asylum-claims-to-ports-of-entry-contrary-to-law?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Winehole23]

The caravan is not the face of immigration to come, it's the face of the waning trend.

[boutons_deux]

U.S. will catch but 'no longer release' undocumented immigrants, bar many from seeking asylum, Trump says (https://theweek.com/speedreads/805251/catch-but-no-longer-release-undocumented-immigrants-bar-many-from-seeking-asylum-trump-says)

President Trump will use an executive order "next week" to end the catch and release policy he's detested for so long,

America will "no longer release" undocumented immigrants found in the U.S., and instead

will hold migrants in "massive tent cities" until their deportation or asylum proceedings, Trump said Thursday.

The administration is currently building "massive cities of tents" along the border to accommodate for the expected influx of detainees, Trump added,

insisting against evidence (https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1058097531694039041) that it would be "totally legal" to indefinitely detain families.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/805251/catch-but-no-longer-release-undocumented-immigrants-bar-many-from-seeking-asylum-trump-says

[CitizenDwayne]

Trump starts bitching about immigrants, suddenly all his followers act like they had these ideas on their own.

There’s nothing patriotic about shitting on immigrants. Accepting people who’ve been exiled for any number of reasons is a defining element of our nation, and always has been. If you don’t like it, that’s your biased Trumpian viewpoint. Don’t act like it has any basis in American tradition.

[boutons_deux]

There’s nothing patriotic about shitting on immigrants.

Trash and his racist cult mob are anti-American, anti-democracy, and are deranged inhumane animals and pussy grabbers

[Winehole23]

Hear, hear CitizenDwayne

[FrostKing]

Trump starts bitching about immigrants, suddenly all his followers act like they had these ideas on their own.

There’s nothing patriotic about shitting on immigrants. Accepting people who’ve been exiled for any number of reasons is a defining element of our nation, and always has been. If you don’t like it, that’s your biased Trumpian viewpoint. Don’t act like it has any basis in American tradition.
I believe majority of Immigrants with American citizenship (myself included) are lukewarm or against birth rite. We waited our turn. Our relatives might even struggle to obtain visas to visit America.

[Winehole23]

Suck up, punch down.

[Pavlov]

Trump starts bitching about immigrants, suddenly all his followers act like they had these ideas on their own.

There’s nothing patriotic about shitting on immigrants. Accepting people who’ve been exiled for any number of reasons is a defining element of our nation, and always has been. If you don’t like it, that’s your biased Trumpian viewpoint. Don’t act like it has any basis in American tradition.On the contrary, racism and xenophobia are grand US traditions. Nathan is pretty much echoing the claims and demands of the Klan of 100 years ago.

[boutons_deux]

On the contrary, racism and xenophobia are grand US traditions. Nathan is pretty much echoing the claims and demands of the Klan of 100 years ago.

corrected,

yes, racism, xenophobia, misogyny are 100% deep and long and current US traditions,

as are the many lying MYTHS Americans tell themselves, eg

that America is democracy (while not even being founded as democracy),

equal opportunity for all,

isn't racist,

isn't xenophobic,

isn't misogynist,

is God's Preferred Country

[FrostKing]

corrected,

yes, racism, xenophobia, misogyny are 100% deep and long and current US traditions,

as are the many lying MYTHS Americans tell themselves, eg

that America is democracy (while not even being founded as democracy),

equal opportunity for all,

isn't racist,

isn't xenophobic,

isn't misogynist,

is God's Preferred Country
Americans are arrogant and holier than thou if they buy that Americanalism bullshit. USA is great at capitalizing on others misfortune

[Nathan89]

If you want to show people that America is racist show them how Harvard treats Asians.

[Spurminator]

1058099409790099456

[baseline bum]

1058099409790099456

The right's feelings don't care about your facts man

[Spurs Homer]

So much bad luck our country is having...

makes you think this country is sitting on an Indian Burial Ground...

oh wait!

[SnakeBoy]

1058099409790099456

People are saying it's 3%

[AaronY]

If you want to show people that America is racist show them how Harvard treats Asians.
You're back to pretending to care about Asians again?

[angrydude]

lol beta. fucked. lock him up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCG_JckSF8&feature=youtu.be

The democrat party is just a party of criminals

[Winehole23]

People are saying it's 3%Tell a big lie, repeat it endlessly and people will believe.

Is this what you believe, Snake Boy?

[Winehole23]

On the contrary, racism and xenophobia are grand US traditions. Nathan is pretty much echoing the claims and demands of the Klan of 100 years ago.I doubt many posters read the Senate debate on the 1866 Civil Rights Act (that was the precursor of the 14 Amendment) I posted upstream, but the dilatory, free and fluent racism of Senator Cowan of Pennsylvania is astonishing from the standpoint of 2018. It is also possibly illuminating in more than one way.

Imagine how much these shy and hesitant and somewhat reticent-about-their-own-ideas, SpursTalk racists might keep inside without any outward clue.

In it's own time, it was very controversial but a tone of genteel tolerance pervades the record. The anno 1866 Senators are not angrily denouncing each other, but let Senator Cowan speak for as long as he wanted about upholding a white man's government, before curtly but genteelly dismissing him.

[Nathan89]

lol beta. fucked. lock him up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCG_JckSF8&feature=youtu.be

The democrat party is just a party of criminals

Investing in their future voters on day 1. Anything to washout the conservatives of America.

[Nathan89]

Beto campaign worker was questioning the need for borders. Said nobody was illegal on this planet. Nobody wants open borders. This country is headed in a beautiful direction.

[Nathan89]

You're back to pretending to care about Asians again?

"Pretending" is your narrative.

[Pavlov]

Beto campaign worker was questioning the need for borders. Said nobody was illegal on this planet. Nobody wants open borders. This country is headed in a beautiful direction.Wow!

A campaign worker!

You're aggrieved!

[boutons_deux]

Americans Would Feel Safer If a Huge Caravan of Angry White Men Left the Country

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5bdb35bc6cc39b4bfebccb8c/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-AngryTrumpRally2.jpg


MINNESOTA —A vast majority of Americans would feel significantly safer

if an enormous caravan consisting of angry white men left the country, a new poll indicates.

The poll, conducted by the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Institute, suggests that

the concept of an angry-white-male caravan could be the most wildly popular policy proposal

in the run-up to Tuesday’s midterm elections.

In an indication of just how much support the proposal has,

many Americans said that they would personally contribute gas money to help get the caravan on its way.

Despite the popularity of the caravan, however, there was


disagreement over what the optimal number of angry white men to depart with it would be, with

some suggesting a figure of twenty thousand and

others preferring a number as high as forty million.

Additionally, the implementation of such a caravan could face major obstacles;

the survey indicates that

both Mexican and Canadian voters overwhelmingly oppose any influx whatsoever of angry white American males.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/americans-would-feel-safer-if-a-huge-caravan-of-angry-white-men-left-the-country (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/americans-would-feel-safer-if-a-huge-caravan-of-angry-white-men-left-the-country)

[AaronY]

"Pretending" is your narrative.
This is the only time you ever bring them up lmao. We tried getting you to talk about how they turned on Republicans going from Reagan winning the Asian vote handily in 80 and 84 to steadily deteriorating until Trump won 20% of the Asian vote.

I had some articles lined up with interviews of Asians who walked away from the Republican party but you didnt seem interested. Said I was changing the subject. As a rightwing political person seems like something youd be interested in

its just curious how only time you care about Asians is affirmative actions and harvard lol. Like hmm whats the agenda there lol so sneaky. Im willing to bet the only time you talked about asians before this was when you reviewed a Chinese food on Yelp!

[Nathan89]

What does the poll for angry black men say?

[Nathan89]

This is the only time you ever bring them up lmao. We tried getting you to talk about how they turned on Republicans going from Reagan winning the Asian vote handily in 80 and 84 to steadily deteriorating until Trump won 20% of the Asian vote.

I had some articles lined up with interviews of Asians who walked away from the Republican party but you didnt seem interested. Said I was changing the subject. As a rightwing political person seems like something youd be interested in

its just curious how only time you care about Asians is affirmative actions and harvard lol. Like hmm whats the agenda there lol so sneaky. Im willing to bet the only time you talked about asians before this was when you reviewed a Chinese food on Yelp!

Why they turned on Republicans is irrelevant to my support of them not being discriminated against.

[AaronY]

Why they turned on Republicans is irrelevant to my support of them not being discriminated against.
You're not interested in why?

Remember you care about Asians

[FrostKing]

Americans Would Feel Safer If a Huge Caravan of Angry White Men Left the Country

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5bdb35bc6cc39b4bfebccb8c/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-AngryTrumpRally2.jpg


MINNESOTA —A vast majority of Americans would feel significantly safer

if an enormous caravan consisting of angry white men left the country, a new poll indicates.

The poll, conducted by the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Institute, suggests that

the concept of an angry-white-male caravan could be the most wildly popular policy proposal

in the run-up to Tuesday’s midterm elections.

In an indication of just how much support the proposal has,

many Americans said that they would personally contribute gas money to help get the caravan on its way.

Despite the popularity of the caravan, however, there was


disagreement over what the optimal number of angry white men to depart with it would be, with

some suggesting a figure of twenty thousand and

others preferring a number as high as forty million.

Additionally, the implementation of such a caravan could face major obstacles;

the survey indicates that

both Mexican and Canadian voters overwhelmingly oppose any influx whatsoever of angry white American males.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/americans-would-feel-safer-if-a-huge-caravan-of-angry-white-men-left-the-country (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/americans-would-feel-safer-if-a-huge-caravan-of-angry-white-men-left-the-country)
Im drinking beers and smoking think and you are soo incredibly label

[FrostKing]

You're not interested in why?

Remember you care about Asians
Speaking English. Betern yet, speak Spanish. Or Polish. Maybe German

[ElNono]

lol beta. fucked. lock him up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCG_JckSF8&feature=youtu.be

The democrat party is just a party of criminals

It's just a shame that felons that have been caught doctoring videos like these have zero credibility, otherwise it would be a cool-story-bro moment, tbh.

But you're right, Democrats should take a hint of how to do crime and move on to vote suppression...

[ElNono]

I doubt many posters read the Senate debate on the 1866 Civil Rights Act (that was the precursor of the 14 Amendment) I posted upstream, but the dilatory, free and fluent racism of Senator Cowan of Pennsylvania is astonishing from the standpoint of 2018. It is also possibly illuminating in more than one way.

Imagine how much these shy and hesitant and somewhat reticent-about-their-own-ideas, SpursTalk racists might keep inside without any outward clue.

In it's own time, it was very controversial but a tone of genteel tolerance pervades the record. The anno 1866 Senators are not angrily denouncing each other, but let Senator Cowan speak for as long as he wanted about upholding a white man's government, before curtly but genteelly dismissing him.

Racism and xenophobia are both displays of ignorance and insecurity, which devolve into fear, tbh... it's also psychologically true that, for most people at least, fear creates anxiety and/or motivation.

Much like religion, they're been great drivers of mass societal/political control of the incurious and simple minded. The lack of historical and psychological availability of information in the past could've been used as an excuse, but no longer.

[Spurs Homer]

Racism and xenophobia are both displays of ignorance and insecurity, which devolve into fear, tbh... it's also psychologically true that, for most people at least, fear creates anxiety and/or motivation.

Much like religion, they're been great drivers of mass societal/political control of the incurious and simple minded. The lack of historical and psychological availability of information in the past could've been used as an excuse, but no longer.

Good points.

Why is it - do you think that we never learn?
Are people just choosing to be evil? Is it all just stemming from personal greed? Power at all costs?

[Brazil]

This Nathan dude is an elite dumb motherfucker tbh... :lol

[Nathan89]

Things are often declared "racism" and "xenophobia" out of ignorance. People that refuse to look further than the surface of an issue often declare everyone else that comes to a different conclusion "racist" and "xenophobic". It's quick way to dismiss and feel superior to others.

[Nathan89]

This Nathan dude is an elite dumb motherfucker tbh... :lol

Just having a conversation. No reason to jump in and start throwing feces.

[Winehole23]

Things are often declared "racism" and "xenophobia" out of ignorance. People that refuse to look further than the surface of an issue often declare everyone else that comes to a different conclusion "racist" and "xenophobic". It's quick way to dismiss and feel superior to others.your way of feeling superior is to call us ignorant for calling out your racism and xenophobia.

you call us shallow, but your own depth on the matter amounts to begging the question of IQ differences of racial cohorts and having that dictate immigration policy. not only is that a wholly abstract approach to the problem, it no more describes the problem than it provides the solution unless you accept the racist premisses.

[Spurminator]

Doxxing campaign volunteers cool now.

[Winehole23]

sorry, who got doxxed and by whom?

[SnakeBoy]

Tell a big lie, repeat it endlessly and people will believe.

Is this what you believe, Snake Boy?

I believe you need blue font

[Spurminator]

sorry, who got doxxed and by whom?


lol beta. fucked. lock him up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCG_JckSF8&feature=youtu.be

The democrat party is just a party of criminals

[Winehole23]

That's a misuse of campaign funds at worst.

There's nothing illegal about assisting asylum seekers. Even James O'Keefe says so at the end of the video.

[Brazil]

Just having a conversation. No reason to jump in and start throwing feces.

You’re not having a conversation you just defending your boy at any opportunity and spreading your hate all over the internet :lol

[Winehole23]

I believe you need blue fontit's hard to tell which way the sarcasm is pointed sometimes

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrAHPlDWkAEB295.jpg

[spurraider21]

This is the only time you ever bring them up lmao. We tried getting you to talk about how they turned on Republicans going from Reagan winning the Asian vote handily in 80 and 84 to steadily deteriorating until Trump won 20% of the Asian vote.

I had some articles lined up with interviews of Asians who walked away from the Republican party but you didnt seem interested. Said I was changing the subject. As a rightwing political person seems like something youd be interested in

its just curious how only time you care about Asians is affirmative actions and harvard lol. Like hmm whats the agenda there lol so sneaky. Im willing to bet the only time you talked about asians before this was when you reviewed a Chinese food on Yelp!
its his Chicago

[SnakeBoy]

That's a misuse of campaign funds at worst.

There's nothing illegal about assisting asylum seekers. Even James O'Keefe says so at the end of the video.

That's not the point

[Winehole23]

what's the point?

[StinkyWeezleteats]

what's the point?

His point: MUH MURICA

[Winehole23]

its just curious how only time you care about Asians is affirmative actions and harvard lol. Like hmm whats the agenda there lol so sneaky. Im willing to bet the only time you talked about asians before this was when you reviewed a Chinese food on YelpI've asked Nathan89 repeatedly ITT about the trend of degreed Asians coming to this country.

He's ducked it every single time.

[SnakeBoy]

what's the point?

The point is to make the topic immigration in the run up to the election. It was only about two weeks ago that the dems sent out the memo to their candidates to avoid talking about immigration because their polling showed it was a losing issue for them, instead they need to redirect focus to healthcare (loser for the GOP). Since then it's been a full court press from Trump and everyone on the right saying all kinds of stupid shit about immigration. Dem candidates have been falling for it.

[Winehole23]

makes sense as a tactic.

do you see any strategic dimension beyond the election to whipping up racism and xenophobia?

[Spurminator]

The next election.

[SnakeBoy]

makes sense as a tactic.

do you see any strategic dimension beyond the election to whipping up racism and xenophobia?

It hasn't worked for the Democrats so far so I don't see why it would after the election.

[Winehole23]

everything is to be blamed on the the dirty Dems, even the crass racism of Republicans and Republican leaders.

[boutons_deux]

everything is to be blamed on the the dirty Dems, even the crass racism of Republicans and Republican leaders.

Euro-White, male, (Christian) supremacy.

iow, Dems as the party of non-whites, of feminazis, of Jews/Muslims

[Nathan89]

"In 2012, 51 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) reported that they used at least one welfare program during the year, compared to 30 percent of native households. Welfare in this study includes Medicaid and cash, food, and housing programs.

Welfare use is high for both new arrivals and well-established immigrants. Of households headed by immigrants who have been in the country for more than two decades, 48 percent access welfare.

Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest.

The welfare system is designed to help low-income workers, especially those with children, and this describes many immigrant households. In 2012, 51 percent of immigrant households with one or more workers accessed one or more welfare programs, as did 28 percent of working native households.

In the four top immigrant-receiving states, use of welfare by immigrant households is significantly higher than that of native households: California (55 percent vs. 30 percent), New York (59 percent vs. 33 percent), Texas (57 percent vs. 34 percent), and Florida (42 percent vs. 28 percent)."

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

I wonder who they are going to vote for. Probably the high taxed welfare state party. Just a matter of time before Dems can implement policy that repels the talent that has typically came to America. Surely this is good for the country.

[FrostKing]

Fuck off. We're full.

[FrostKing]

Euro-White, male, (Christian) supremacy.

iow, Dems as the party of non-whites, of feminazis, of Jews/Muslims
LOL. Uncut and your BF is jealous

[Pavlov]

Fuck off. We're full.
lol "we"

[StinkyWeezleteats]

The prophecy has cometh to fruition before our very eyes. Good thing we have 150,000 armed troops headed to the border to destroy these unarmed, diseased yet also strong, young, alien thug invaders. Praise be to Orange Crush doing the lawwwd's work.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-09-2015/AsmZRG.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiDzLbZubbeAhWV14MKHRQrBv4QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=%2Furl%3Fsa%3Di%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26 source%3Dimages%26cd%3D%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26v ed%3D2ahUKEwiDzLbZubbeAhWV14MKHRQrBv4QjRx6BAgBEAU% 26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmakeagif.com%252Fgif%2 52Farcade-space-invaders-1978-AsmZRG%26psig%3DAOvVaw3MxIQTrxMAUhwvxyUsTHLh%26ust %3D1541273589364661&psig=AOvVaw3MxIQTrxMAUhwvxyUsTHLh&ust=1541273589364661)

[SnakeBoy]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0vXvDeNZokU/V8AnJTCA1qI/AAAAAAABfIE/cIlg71Aornc/-I-see-racist-people-meme-25570_thumb%25255B1%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800

[StinkyWeezleteats]

That's racist.

[boutons_deux]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pyINXrjkCzT6iPnqti8X_DHaM9w=/0x0:1080x1080/1320x0/filters:focal(0x0:1080x1080):format(webp):no_upsca le()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13376771/migrant_caravan_nov2.jpg

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/2/18056076/caravan-border-where-mexico-border-patrol

[Spurminator]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ewbK47CKZH2pOhttps://media.giphy.com/media/ewbK47CKZH2pO/giphy.gif

[Chris]

1058372973411946501

[FrostKing]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pyINXrjkCzT6iPnqti8X_DHaM9w=/0x0:1080x1080/1320x0/filters:focal(0x0:1080x1080):format(webp):no_upsca le()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13376771/migrant_caravan_nov2.jpg

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/2/18056076/caravan-border-where-mexico-border-patrol
Mexicans are the Turks of Europe

[Chris]

Mexicans are the Turks of Europe

Are they marching near the coast so they can take a bath?

[FrostKing]

Are they marching near the coast so they can take a bath?
Hernán Cortés GOAT

[djohn2oo8]

1058457541317984257

[Chris]

.

[boutons_deux]

Pentagon Rejects Trump Request For Illegal Troop Actions On The Border


The Pentagon rejected the request on October 26, according to one of the officials, even as it signed off on providing DHS with air and logistics support, medical personnel and engineers.

The request was turned down because

the Department of Defense felt that active duty troops do not have the authority to conduct that type of mission

unless they are granted additional authorities by the President.

Defense officials have repeatedly emphasized

the troops at the border are there to support civil authorities and that

they are not expected to come into any contact with migrants.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/02/pentagon-trump-illegal-border.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZZqlQ7vIe8&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=wlh1jwGnG1pyyAdo%3A6

[Nathan89]

1058372973411946501

Already a waste of our taxes.

[Nathan89]

"Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest."

If you want to donate your money to Mexicans then send it to some charity in Mexico. Nah, I'll spend others money and get free votes.

[Chris]

Already a waste of our taxes.

Are migrants from Central America entitled to the 5th amendment and due process? I thought that was reserved for citizens.

[Pavlov]

Are migrants from Central America entitled to the 5th amendment and due process? I thought that was reserved for citizens.You're wrong.
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[Chris]

You're wrong.

That supports my case. Clearly referring to citizens of the United States :lol

[Pavlov]

That supports my case. Clearly referring to citizens of the United States :lol:lol no.
If they meant citizens they would've used the word citizens instead of persons.
This is settled law.

[spurraider21]

That supports my case. Clearly referring to citizens of the United States :lol
huh? the exact opposite. the first clause (before the semicolon, if you were wondering) refers to citizens. the second clause refers to "any person"

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrDl2y1UUAAzVCh.jpg:large

[boutons_deux]

Some veterans say Trump is politicizing the military by sending troops to the border days before midterm election

retired Marine Col. David Lapan decided he could not stay silent.

“The idea that a group of poor people from Central America,

most of whom are women and children, pose some kind of threat to the national security of the United States is ridiculous,”

Lapan said in an interview.

“It’s a misuse of active duty forces.”
He’s one of a growing number of former senior military officers who say

Trump’s order to deploy troops to the border on the cusp of an election

compromises the military’s traditional position as an institution shielded from electoral politics.
Trump has had rocky relations with the military since taking office,

clashing with Pentagon leaders over

his ban on transgender recruiting,

his proposed space force and

his abrupt cancellation of training exercises in South Korea.

But Trump has added unusual strain by ordering a military operation whose timing and scale seem unjustified to some officers, and

by suggesting military personnel might use deadly force against unarmed migrants,

instead of remaining in a support role, as required by law.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-veterans-border-20181102-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter

[boutons_deux]

Trump backtracks on shooting rock-throwing members of migrant caravan

"I didn't say shoot. I didn't say shoot."

President Donald Trump apparently doesn’t want US troops to open fire on migrants at the southern border after all.

Trump said in a speech

on Thursday that members of a migrant caravan would be shot if they threw stones at border officials.

By Friday, however, he had changed his tuned, saying that members of the caravan who throw rocks at border officials would be arrested, not shot.

By Friday he had backpedaled, but the damage from his dangerous rhetoric had already been done.

The caravan meanwhile, is weeks, maybe even months, away from reaching the U.S. border.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-backtracks-on-shooting-rock-throwing-members-of-migrant-caravan-9c2e5440329e/

iow, Trash's campaign close is nothing but decades-long, swampy, Repug establishment racism and paranoia

[boutons_deux]

“We want to be clear: Use of lethal force against rock throwers is murder—period.

Rules of Engagement call for commensurate force.

This would be an unlawful order and should/would be disobeyed.

The Commander in Chief is frighteningly clueless.” — VoteVets

[boutons_deux]

From the papers,

the military is preparing to defend against an “estimated 200 unregulated armed militia members :lol

currently operating along the [Southwest Border].

Reported Incidents of

unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment

during deployments.
Extremist militia groups, pretending to be “citizen patrols” have been making friends with National Guard troops and then running off with military hardware. :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/2/1809318/-Trump-s-order-to-fire-on-civilians-is-illegal-as-hell-and-already-being-used-to-justify-murder?detail=emaildkre

[ElNono]

Good points.

Why is it - do you think that we never learn?
Are people just choosing to be evil? Is it all just stemming from personal greed? Power at all costs?

It's a natural reaction. Situations like being relatively poor generate the same fear and anxiety/motivation, which oftentimes help people overcome those situations (mid-life crisis, etc) and get over them, or drive them further down.
Politicos long established they can manufacture fear to trigger the same reactions.

But the why, IMO, has everything to do with culture growing up, and you can point to the right and left on this in different ways. Conservatism breeds traditionalism: you don't question why things are the way they are, you might get smacked for that growing up. So you follow the path of the sheep and you do things because "that's how they always been". Liberalism on the contrary often goes into moral relativism, nothing is ever bad/wrong. "You want to be ignorant? that's ok, because you're being who you wanna be". Or parents trying to be buddies instead of parents, supporting bad decisions, just as long as they keep kids comfortable.

In all cases, getting out of your comfort zone is the best way to overcome that. And it's actually a great way to grow both emotionally and psychologically at a personal level.

[boutons_deux]

7 blistering cartoons about the fabricated caravan 'crisis'


https://theweek.com/video/805144/7-blistering-cartoons-about-fabricated-caravan-crisis (https://theweek.com/video/805144/7-blistering-cartoons-about-fabricated-caravan-crisis)

[boutons_deux]

SNL destroys Fox News’ hysterical coverage of migrant caravan

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/snl-destroys-fox-news-hysterical-coverage-migrant-caravan/

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Troop Deployments Will Cost Taxpayers At Least $200 Million

That number, which includes the cost of National Guard forces that have been there since April, will increase greatly if the deployments continue into 2019.

Trump said he plans to deploy as many as 15,000 troops (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ahead-of-midterm-elections-trump-says-he-may-send-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border/2018/10/31/9e7740ec-dd4a-11e8-aa33-53bad9a881e8_story.html) to the U.S.-Mexico border, which would roughly equal the size of the U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan.

Since the Trump administration is calling on the Pentagon to cut unnecessary expenditures this amount of money is significant.

Trump recently told the military it had to slash next year’s budget by $33 billion due to this year’s extremely large increase in the federal deficit.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/04/trumps-troop-deployments-will-cost-taxpayers-at-least-200-million.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Trump Now Says If Migrants Throw Rocks Military Will Respond with Paper or Scissors

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5bdef7cec68cd32d8cedbd29/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-Trump-Border.jpg


PENSACOLA, FLORIDA —Backtracking from his earlier suggestion that the military should fire upon migrants if they throw rocks, Donald J. Trump said on Saturday that he was ordering the military to respond to rocks with either paper or scissors.

Speaking at a rally in Pensacola, Florida, Trump said that the

decision about whether to use paper or scissors to retaliate against rocks would ultimately be left up to military commanders at the border.
“If rocks come flying at them, they should go ‘paper, scissors’ until they have an answer,” Trump said.

He issued a stern warning to the migrants approaching the border, telling them,

“The United States military sees your rocks and is raising you paper or scissors.”
At the Pentagon, Defense Secretary James Mattis insisted that

Trump’s latest order was “not a stunt” but refused to answer how the military would come up with fifteen thousand pairs of scissors on such short notice.
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-now-says-if-migrants-throw-rocks-military-will-respond-with-paper-or-scissors (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-now-says-if-migrants-throw-rocks-military-will-respond-with-paper-or-scissors)

[Chris]

Why is boots SPAMMING the Central America is invading Mexico thread with fake news about Trump?

[Pavlov]

Why is boots SPAMMING the Central America is invading Mexico thread with fake news about Trump?Chris shining up his forum cop badge.

[boutons_deux]

U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/VQkXEq6X-sX8AMValRgaTIL8fzM=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6HJV47FWUEI6FNLINEL7NLDNTU.jpg
Michael Vickers, a veterinarian and rancher in Falfurrias, Texas, says he won’t let outside militia onto his property and he doesn’t think such groups will be trusted by most area landowners.


FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border.

The Texas Minutemen, according to McGauley, have 100 volunteers en route to the Rio Grande who want to help stop the migrants, with more likely on the way.

"You got other militias, and husbands and wives, people coming from Oregon, Indiana. We’ve even got two from Canada.”

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

the prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops —

along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants —

is considered serious enough that military planners have issued warnings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/army-assessment-of-migrant-caravans-undermines-trumps-rhetoric/2018/11/02/78b9d82a-dec0-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.843234c79030) to Army commanders.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-militia-groups-head-to-border-stirred-by-trumps-call-to-arms/2018/11/03/ff96826c-decf-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.d63b5043f203&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Don't these racist losers have jobs? Are they all trust fund babies?

[Nathan89]

Why is boots SPAMMING the Central America is invading Mexico thread with fake news about Trump?

To distract people from the reality that their support for illegals is a contradiction to them pretending to support poor Americans.

[ducks]

“We want to be clear: Use of lethal force against rock throwers is murder—period.

Rules of Engagement call for commensurate force.

This would be an unlawful order and should/would be disobeyed.

The Commander in Chief is frighteningly clueless.” — VoteVets


boutons wants rocks thrown at his head and not defend himself

[ducks]

Chris shining up his forum cop badge.

Are you boutons to ?

[Pavlov]

Are you boutons to ?I am not boutons to .

[Chris]

To distract people from the reality that their support for illegals is a contradiction to them pretending to support poor Americans.

Ironic considering the VAST majority of "poor" Americans have all the tools to support themselves in a robust economy.

Is it because of poor money management, or lack of ambition?

Flooding the gates and taxing the super rich under the guise of nobility is trendy.

[Pavlov]

Ironic considering the VAST majority of "poor" Americans have all the tools to support themselves in a robust economy.

Is it because of poor money management, or lack of ambition?

Flooding the gates and taxing the super rich under the guise of nobility is trendy.Immigration is down and taxes for the super rich were cut.

[ElNono]

Ironic considering the VAST majority of "poor" Americans have all the tools to support themselves in a robust economy.

Is it because of poor money management, or lack of ambition?

Flooding the gates and taxing the super rich under the guise of nobility is trendy.

lmao, stop pretending you care/know anything about poor people, American or otherwise. Stick to posting tweets, bot.

[Chris]

^ salt mine detected

[ElNono]

^ no argument, cookie cut comeback per par

[Chris]

When they go low, we go high ; )

[boutons_deux]

so-called Christian holy man Bible humper Chris blaming the black victims of White Capitalists' Supremacy, who pay black men and women several 10%s less than they pay white men, if they even bother hire black people.

[ElNono]

lol 'they'...

[ElNono]

so-called Christian holy man Bible humper Chris blaming the black victims of White Capitalists' Supremacy, who pay black men and women several 10%s less than they pay white men, if they even bother hire black people.

He has no clue what it's like to start from zero, what it takes to climb the ladder and finally what it's like to be super-rich... being the bootlicker he is, the latter is likely never going to happen to him either, unless he inherits the money.

He's basically the right wing version of you, tbh...

[Nathan89]

"White Capitalists' Supremacy":lmao

Just throwing shit together to scare people.:lmao

[Winehole23]

Too much credit tbh.

Boutons isn't very scary.

[Winehole23]

I believe its a UN/Human Rights law/directive. All member states must accept asylum applications at their borders.it is a fucking treaty the US ratified in 1967.

Under Article VI of the US Constituion, treaties are the law of the land.

Donald J. Trump swore to uphold it. Clearly, his oath meant shit.

[Winehole23]

But that's probably what you like about him.

[Winehole23]

The US welshing on its deals

[Nathan89]

Taking in refugees doesn't make sense with birthright citizenship(assuming that applies to refugees).

[Pavlov]

Taking in refugees doesn't make sense with birthright citizenship(assuming that applies to refugees).Sure it does.

[Chris]

Taking in refugees doesn't make sense with birthright citizenship(assuming that applies to refugees).

Always use the word refugee in quotes when it comes to Soros funded soirées.

[boutons_deux]

John Oliver on family separation

if you have the balls ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1099&v=ygVX1z6tDGI

[Winehole23]

Joint Chiefs Chairman says US troops will have no role in denying entry to the caravan.

Unless they're there to provide medical care and other assistance to the refugees, its a pure political stunt.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45437289_10101669874615387_5164629896344895488_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=ebc07a69704749130b9c565f9cf26b95&oe=5C8A9829

[boutons_deux]

Joint Chiefs Chairman says US troops will have no role in denying entry to the caravan.

Unless they're there to provide medical care and other assistance to the refugees, its a pure political stunt.

... a blatant abuse of Pres power for partisan politics. and the dickless, gutless, spineless Repug worms say nothing, in compliance.

[Nathan89]

Hmm, abc said Dems are getting confident about Texas because of demographics. No, shit that's why they want more in the country to washout the conservative voice of America. Time to split the country into two.

[AaronY]

https://pbs-h2.twimg.com/media/C8I_A1wUAAEHXSr.jpg


Wow, man you made one those type posts again. Nice

[spurraider21]

Wow, man you made one those type posts again. Nice Nathan89 in case you were wondering he thinks ur the fat one on the left

[Nathan89]

Dems went batshit because Kavanaugh was going to make the supreme Court conservative but Republicans are racists because they don't want their voiced washout by illegals having anchor babies and immigrants that can't live without welfare. BTW, actual racist comments about white people littered Twitter because of Kavanaugh. But continue to post your nonsense graphic.

[AaronY]

Nathan89 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) in case you were wondering he thinks ur the fat one on the left
Snakeboy and cosmiccowboy are the guy on the right so gotta give them props. Used to think Darrin was one of the guys on the right but sadly seeming more like the suspenders guys lately

[spurraider21]

Snakeboy and cosmiccowboy are the guy on the right so gotta give them props. Used to think Darrin was one of the guys on the right but sadly seeming more like the suspenders guys lately
did you know cosmiccowboy has employees? he's doing very well for himself tbh

[boutons_deux]

Border Patrol cancels El Paso crowd-control exercise amid concerns about voter suppression

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/border-patrol-to-conduct-a-crowd-control-exercise-in-el-paso-on-election-day/2018/11/06/147dd678-e18f-11e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.47f6ac858ca8

[AaronY]

did you know cosmiccowboy has employees? he's doing very well for himself tbh
I heard something like that. Someone should publicize that more tbh

[Spurs Homer]

Did it arrive on time?

Are all your houses boarded up - Hurricane style?

[Spurminator]

Guess we're done talking about this now

[boutons_deux]

Guess we're done talking about this now

but not done paying for 5K - 15K US military on the border.

[Winehole23]

Guess we're done talking about this nowTrump played the media like a fiddle. Three NYT front pages, endless cable TV panels.

Once he moved on, so did the media spotlight.

[Pavlov]

Dems went batshit because Kavanaugh was going to make the supreme Court conservative but Republicans are racists because they don't want their voiced washout by illegals having anchor babies and immigrants that can't live without welfare. BTW, actual racist comments about white people littered Twitter because of Kavanaugh. But continue to post your nonsense graphic.You just called for secession.

That's batshit, Nathan.

[SnakeBoy]

did you know cosmiccowboy has employees? he's doing very well for himself tbh

lol

[Nathan89]

You just called for secession.

That's batshit, Nathan.

Reasonable considering the conservative voice of America is being washed out by illegals having anchor babies. There may as well be two separate countries.

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgflip.com/2m21xw.jpg

[Pavlov]

https://i.imgflip.com/2m21xw.jpg:lmao Nathan

[Blake]

https://i.imgflip.com/2m21xw.jpg

:lmao

[TSA]

welp


Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen today announced an Interim Final Rule declaring that those aliens who contravene a presidential suspension or limitation on entry into the United States through the southern border with Mexico issued under section 212(f) or 215(a)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) will be rendered ineligible for asylum.

The Acting Attorney General and the Secretary issued the following joint statement:

“Consistent with our immigration laws, the President has the broad authority to suspend or restrict the entry of aliens into the United States if he determines it to be in the national interest to do so. Today’s rule applies this important principle to aliens who violate such a suspension or restriction regarding the southern border imposed by the President by invoking an express authority provided by Congress to restrict eligibility for asylum. Our asylum system is overwhelmed with too many meritless asylum claims from aliens who place a tremendous burden on our resources, preventing us from being able to expeditiously grant asylum to those who truly deserve it. Today, we are using the authority granted to us by Congress to bar aliens who violate a Presidential suspension of entry or other restriction from asylum eligibility.”

Section 212(f) of the Immigration and INA states that “[w]henever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

Further, Section 215(a) of the INA states that it is “unlawful…for any alien to depart from or enter or attempt to depart from or enter the United States except under such reasonable rules, regulations, and orders, and subject to such limitations and exceptions as the President may prescribe.”

In Section 208(d)(5)(B) of the INA, Congress specified that the Attorney General “may provide by regulation for any other conditions or limitations on the consideration of an application for asylum.”

Today’s new rule applies to prospective presidential proclamations, and is not retroactive.

Asylum is a discretionary form of relief granted by the Executive Branch on a discretionary basis to those fleeing persecution on the basis of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. The rule does not render such aliens ineligible for withholding of removal under the INA or protection from removal under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/doj-and-dhs-issue-new-asylum-rule

[Winehole23]

welp

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/doj-and-dhs-issue-new-asylum-rulewelp, look like the regulation conflicts with a law.

the reg will be challenged in court.


1060652006816268289

[baseline bum]

https://i.imgflip.com/2m21xw.jpg

Holy fuck :rollin

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgflip.com/2m21xw.jpg

I chuckled

[ElNono]

welp, look like the regulation conflicts with a law.

the reg will be challenged in court.

1060652006816268289

What's hilarious is that when the previous administration did this in support of Dreamers, the claim was that the Executive was overreaching...

[Winehole23]

What's hilarious is that when the previous administration did this in support of Dreamers, the claim was that the Executive was overreaching......and that claim was upheld by the 5th Circuit and an evenly divided Supreme Court.

Executive agency heads have wide latitude to interpret regulations, but that discretion does not permit them to interpret regulations in a way that puts the regulations in conflict with law.

[Pavlov]

welp


Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen today announced an Interim Final Rule declaring that those aliens who contravene a presidential suspension or limitation on entry into the United States through the southern border with Mexico issued under section 212(f) or 215(a)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) will be rendered ineligible for asylum.

The Acting Attorney General and the Secretary issued the following joint statement:

“Consistent with our immigration laws, the President has the broad authority to suspend or restrict the entry of aliens into the United States if he determines it to be in the national interest to do so. Today’s rule applies this important principle to aliens who violate such a suspension or restriction regarding the southern border imposed by the President by invoking an express authority provided by Congress to restrict eligibility for asylum. Our asylum system is overwhelmed with too many meritless asylum claims from aliens who place a tremendous burden on our resources, preventing us from being able to expeditiously grant asylum to those who truly deserve it. Today, we are using the authority granted to us by Congress to bar aliens who violate a Presidential suspension of entry or other restriction from asylum eligibility.”

Section 212(f) of the Immigration and INA states that “[w]henever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

Further, Section 215(a) of the INA states that it is “unlawful…for any alien to depart from or enter or attempt to depart from or enter the United States except under such reasonable rules, regulations, and orders, and subject to such limitations and exceptions as the President may prescribe.”

In Section 208(d)(5)(B) of the INA, Congress specified that the Attorney General “may provide by regulation for any other conditions or limitations on the consideration of an application for asylum.”

Today’s new rule applies to prospective presidential proclamations, and is not retroactive.

Asylum is a discretionary form of relief granted by the Executive Branch on a discretionary basis to those fleeing persecution on the basis of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. The rule does not render such aliens ineligible for withholding of removal under the INA or protection from removal under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/doj-and-dhs-issue-new-asylum-rulelol kneepad post

[Pavlov]

1060874464689352704

[Spurminator]

They must be at the broder by now. Has the military engaged? Or did they all turn around?

Any updates, Nathan? I know you were following this really closely, and you don't seem the type to just arbitrarily abandon a cause.

[Will Hunting]

They must be at the broder by now. Has the military engaged? Or did they all turn around?

Any updates, Nathan? I know you were following this really closely, and you don't seem the type to just arbitrarily abandon a cause.
They’ve already moved into Southern California and we need to mobilize troops before they occupy San Diego.

[CosmicCowboy]

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

[Nathan89]

They must be at the broder by now. Has the military engaged? Or did they all turn around?

Any updates, Nathan? I know you were following this really closely, and you don't seem the type to just arbitrarily abandon a cause.

I was never following this really closely. There was broad conversation and there was narrow conversation (like the ridiculousness of them proceeding when Mexico offered them stay). I would not take in people that didn't have merit to come. I would only take in people temporarily if birthright ended.

[Spurs Homer]

Which caravan was the shooter in thousand oaks from?

Was he ms13? Honduran? Salvadoran?

You snowflake trumptards still trembling?

[boutons_deux]

Fox has fallen absolutely silent about the caravan now that the election is done.

[Winehole23]

I was never following this really closely. I bet you posted 100 times ITT. Must've been something there to hold you to it.

[Nathan89]

I bet you posted 100 times ITT. Must've been something there to hold you to it.

I'll take the under.

Yeah, it's a problem. I've discussed it.

[Will Hunting]

I'll take the under.
And you’d lose that bet :lol

If you click on the total number of posts in the thread it breaks down how many were by each poster and you have 148 posts ITT as of this post :lmao

[boutons_deux]

The US Border Patrol’s last hiring surge invited a rise in corruption. Now it’s hiring again

A 2015 report from an internal audit by a CBP corruption advisory panel suggested that corruption-related arrests of CBP personnel “far exceed, on a per capita basis, such arrests at other federal law enforcement agencies.” James Tomsheck, a former head of internal affairs at CBP, tells Quartz that the picture “could be far worse than what the arrest stats show.”

An ill-advised initiative to swell the ranks of Border Patrol agents in the mid-2000s was accompanied by an extraordinary spike in misconduct within the agency. Now, the Trump administration is looking to implement another hiring surge.

Trump ordered the Border Patrol (https://www.govexec.com/management/2018/03/congress-rejects-trumps-bid-more-immigration-enforcement-and-border-patrol-agents/146978/), which has just under 20,000 agents (https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2017-Dec/BP%20Staffing%20FY1992-FY2017.pdf), to hire 5,000 brand new ones as “as soon as is practicable.”

Congress declined to fund the surge, :lol

When the CPB similarly ramped up hiring in 2006, under US president George W. Bush, standards were lowered in order to hire about 8,000 additional agents by 2009.

“the number of employees arrested for misconduct, such as civil rights violations or off-duty crimes like domestic violence, grew each year between 2007 and 2012, reaching 336, a 44-percent increase.”

A 2012 report by the US Government Accountability Office said the 2006-2009 hiring surge drew an unknown number of recruits from the criminal underworld who applied for—and received—jobs as border agents and officers “solely to engage in mission-compromising activity.”

For starters, he says,

potential recruits were failing the lie-detector tests at a rate of 55%.

(The failure rate is even higher now (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-border-patrol-lies-20170113-story.html).) And according to Tomsheck, more than 30 people confessed to having

applied for a position at someone else’s direction, including that of drug traffickers.

“They very clearly were infiltrators being placed within the ranks to be the eyes and ears of criminal organizations,”

Staffing needs

The Border Patrol faces a current attrition rate of at least 6% a year, which means it would need to hire more than 1,800 agents just to net an additional 500.

To net 5,000 new agents, as Trump had requested, for a staffing total of 26,370 agents, CBP commissioner Kevin McAleenan has estimated the Border Patrol would need 2,729 new recruits annually for five years.

https://www.theatlas.com/i/atlas_Sk0agTCvl.png



https://www.theatlas.com/i/atlas_SkT5lhzof.png

Tomsheck believes rushing to add thousands of new Border Patrol agents to the ranks as quickly as possible is little more than

a piece of political theater that’s doomed to fail.

https://qz.com/1454101/the-us-border-patrols-last-hiring-surge-invited-a-rise-in-corruption-now-its-hiring-again/

Repug MISgovernance, as dictated by Trash/Miller/Kelly as racist political theatre.

[boutons_deux]

Part-time Texas firefighter busted for Facebook post urging shooting of immigrants — and then got fired from all three of his jobs


“We should buy deer feeders fill them with pinto beans put them on the border and

make a new hunting season.

I wonder how many Texans will buy that hunting licenses and

how many tags we would be allowed…”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/part-time-texas-firefighter-busted-facebook-post-urging-shooting-immigrants-got-fired-three-jobs/

Probably a Trash voter who hates govt, but loves govt paying his salary

Good luck finding a job, redneck.

Try the sheriff dept, they hire assholes fired like you were.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/nataliejohnsonn/status/1061005549561618434?s=20

This is their reaction to Americans not voting how they want. Imagine if Republicans were importing people to wash out their vote. How would they react? But Republicans are the racists.

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/nataliejohnsonn/status/1061005549561618434?s=20

This is their reaction to Americans not voting how they want. Imagine if Republicans were importing people to wash out their vote. How would they react? But Republicans are the racists.Hey Nathan, do you believe in the concept of white genocide?

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/nataliejohnsonn/status/1061005549561618434?s=20

This is their reaction to Americans not voting how they want. Imagine if Republicans were importing people to wash out their vote. How would they react? But Republicans are the racists.
There’s your 149th post in this thread :lol

[Spurminator]

Imagine if Republicans were importing people to wash out their vote.

Why? What would that have to do with anything?

[Nathan89]

Why? What would that have to do with anything?

Because they show vehement racism, sexism, and hatred towards Americans that don't vote how they want them to. I can only imagine the level of hatred they'd have about immigrants and illegals if the net result wasn't massively favorable to their big government wants.

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/nataliejohnsonn/status/1061005549561618434?s=20

This is their reaction to Americans not voting how they want. Imagine if Republicans were importing people to wash out their vote. How would they react? But Republicans are the racists.Explain your importing conspiracy theory.

[Spurminator]

Because they show vehement racism, sexism, and hatred towards Americans that don't vote how they want them to. I can only imagine the level of hatred they'd have about immigrants and illegals if the net result wasn't massively favorable to their big government wants.

Immigrants and refugees can't vote, Nathan. Maybe if they could, the right would have second thoughts about deporting them after they've lived here for decades, calling their families gang members, taking their 2-year-olds into custody and making them defend themselves in court, and covering groups of them in conservative media like they were swarms of zombies.

You're really going to talk about racism and hatred in a thread where you've been freaking out about an invasion of 5000 foreigners? :lmao You have got to be the least self aware person on this board.

[Chris]

1061881960937664512

[Nathan89]

Immigrants and refugees can't vote, Nathan. Maybe if they could, the right would have second thoughts about deporting them after they've lived here for decades, calling their families gang members, taking their 2-year-olds into custody and making them defend themselves in court, and covering groups of them in conservative media like they were swarms of zombies.

You're really going to talk about racism and hatred in a thread where you've been freaking out about an invasion of 5000 foreigners? :lmao You have got to be the least self aware person on this board.

Illegals can't vote. Legal immigrants can vote.

5000 is just a snapshot of decades long problem..

[Chris]

Illegals can't vote, but they do vote. It's called voter fraud. It's why we have "sanctuary cities" and "sanctuary states" to keep those Democratic votes rolling in ; )

[ElNono]

There's extremely more cases of attempts to disenfranchise legal voters, than actual voter fraud. You would think that's where the outrage would be, but it's all about the (R) or (D) next to the names...

[Pavlov]

Illegals can't vote, but they do vote. It's called voter fraud. It's why we have "sanctuary cities" and "sanctuary states" to keep those Democratic votes rolling in ; )You're full of shit.

[Spurminator]

Legal immigrants can vote. .

No, they can't. When they become citizens they can vote. After years of waiting, renewing their visas, and an arduous qualification process, they are able to vote.

This is something immigrants know better than you do, apparently. Probably one of a number of things.

[Nathan89]

That's what I was referring to tbh.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/AmiHorowitz/status/1062118876807340034?s=20

Why have I read numerous comments in this thread about women and children when 90% of the people coming are men?

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/AmiHorowitz/status/1062118876807340034?s=20

Why have I read numerous comments in this thread about women and children when 90% of the people coming are men?How did he determine this percentage?

[Spurminator]

That's what I was referring to tbh.

Do you commonly refer to American citizens as legal immigrants? You sure have a lot of animosity towards people who want to be part of this country so much, they go through the years of tiresome procedures to do so.

What did you do to become an American citizen?

[Nathan89]

Do you commonly refer to American citizens as legal immigrants? You sure have a lot of animosity towards people who want to be part of this country so much, they go through the years of tiresome procedures to do so.

What did you do to become an American citizen?

Yes, if they weren't born here and applied for citizenship. I don't have animosity towards them. The standard just isn't high enough. The wait time being long is the only thing people ever focus on.

I did what the majority of people do to become an American citizen.

[ducks]

You're full of shit.

Link

[Spurminator]

The standard just isn't high enough.

What should the standard be? Please be sure to address specific areas of the Citizenship process that are lacking.


I did what the majority of people do to become an American citizen.

Right, you got born here, and your parents happened to be from here. Lucky you.

[Nathan89]

What should the standard be? Please be sure to address specific areas of the Citizenship process that are lacking.



Right, you got born here, and your parents happened to be from here. Lucky you.

I've already mentioned some of what I'd do. Yes, I would IQ test everyone. I would also slow the amount of people coming into the country so we can track things long-term. That has many benefits including assimilation and increased wages etc for those here.

I recognize my luck. That's why I don't want the entire country to turn into California. California was floating the idea of Calexit in the past little did they know their new country would turn into just another South American country if it weren't attached to the US. Unfortunately people want to treat the country like a charity for outsiders. And based off the "we're all immigrants", "nobody is illegal", "borders are imaginary", "this is stolen land", etc rhetoric I don't see our country changing anytime soon. We'll just become European country with an underachieving population.

[DMC]

There's extremely more cases of attempts to disenfranchise legal voters, than actual voter fraud. You would think that's where the outrage would be, but it's all about the (R) or (D) next to the names...

The biggest issue is gerrymandering. A lot of voters have no idea.

[Winehole23]

The biggest issue is gerrymandering. A lot of voters have no idea.Voter roll maintenance can be significant too, over a million scrubbed in GA the last two years.

On an ongoing basis, mailed in votes might be a legit concern.

Voter fraud is infinitessimal. The measures to counteract it ding way more legit voters than fake ones.

[ElNono]

The biggest issue is gerrymandering. A lot of voters have no idea.

Even if you have an idea and you know, what can you really do about it? Unless there's some sort of federal regulation, it's just part of a broken, cynic system.

We went backwards, the VRA shouldn't have been softened, it should've been enforceable everywhere.

[SupremeGuy]

You're full of shit.No, you are.

https://www.themonitor.com/news/local/article_9b1364c2-e366-11e8-b462-fbd4b2b4fa96.html

Grow up, kid. This is common. Guess which areas?

[boutons_deux]

Voter roll maintenance can be significant too, over a million scrubbed in GA the last two years.

On an ongoing basis, mailed in votes might be a legit concern.

Voter fraud is infinitessimal. The measures to counteract it ding way more legit voters than fake ones.

Repugs have closed 1000+ voting sites, and removed Ms from voters rolls.

When Trash declares martial law, and the Repugs will be fully supportive.

(American) Capitalism and democracy are clearly, fatally incompatible.