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Winehole23
11-25-2018, 07:06 PM
Mexico deported them :tuMexico deported 500 criminals? To the US?

Technically, people who have been deported to their home countries are no longer in the caravan.

Hopefully the worst of the worst have already been weeded out.

Reck
11-25-2018, 07:08 PM
Chris in one gif:
https://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Smart_585d53_2355775.gif

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:13 PM
What did he do to stop Republicans from introducing and passing immigration reform, Chris?

Be specific.

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Rejected by Schiff then blocked by a Clinton appointed judge.

Trump tried bi-partisan reform but the Resistance wasn't having any of it.

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 07:14 PM
952183458922672130

Rejected by Schiff then blocked by a Clinton appointed judge.

Trump tried bi-partisan reform but the Resistance wasn't having any of it.They didn't need a deal with anyone other than other Republicans, Chris.

That's how Congress works.

Did you not know this?

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:15 PM
Mexico deported 500 criminals? To the US?

Technically, people who have been deported to their home countries are no longer in the caravan.

Hopefully the worst of the worst have already been weeded out.

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You're welcome.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:16 PM
They didn't need a deal with anyone other than other Republicans, Chris.

That's how Congress works.

Did you not know this?

The Democrats and Schiff resisted everything Trump tried to do regarding immigration. Did you not know this?

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 07:17 PM
The Democrats and Schiff resisted everything Trump tried to do regarding immigration. Did you not know this?Yes, and that means nothing if the Republicans all vote for a bill and Trump signs it into law.

:lmao you really don't know how Congress works.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:17 PM
Mexico deported 500 criminals? To the US?

Technically, people who have been deported to their home countries are no longer in the caravan.

Hopefully the worst of the worst have already been weeded out.

1066843932644917248

You're welcome.

baseline bum
11-25-2018, 07:18 PM
The Democrats and Schiff resisted everything Trump tried to do regarding immigration. Did you not know this?

Trump never tried to make it a crime punishable by jail time to hire illegals. Instead he was jerking off over his retarded wall.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:18 PM
Yes, and that means nothing if the Republicans all vote for a bill and Trump signs it into law.

:lmao you really don't know how Congress works.

This is you tapping out. I don't even know why I entertain your trolling tbh.

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 07:20 PM
This is you tapping out. I don't even know why I entertain your trolling tbh.No, Chris -- it's true. The Republicans could have passed a immigration bill, Trump could have signed it into law and there would have been nothing the Democrats could have done about it.

It's simple math and middle school civics.

You can't refute either.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:21 PM
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Cortez :lol

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 07:32 PM
Trump never tried to make it a crime punishable by jail time to hire illegals. Instead he was jerking off over his retarded wall.
Why can’t any Trump fan ever explain this to me. Of everything he says he’ll do, Trump refuses to stiffen the penalty for employers who hire illegals.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:36 PM
DOJ already increased the penalties for hiring illegal immigrants back in 2016. ICE is also targeting employers as well.

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 07:39 PM
DOJ already increased the penalties for hiring illegal immigrants back in 2016. ICE is also targeting employers as well.
As far as I know they’re still only civil penalties involving monetary fines. Why not make it a criminal penalty punishable with jail time? There are a bunch of contractors in Phoenix who knowingly hire illegals and willingly take the risk because the worst case scenario of a monetary penalty isn’t a big enough deterrent.

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 07:44 PM
1066843261002764289

Cortez :lol
There was actually a group of Jews who couldn’t get asylum in America during WWII because of unwarranted fear that they were communists, so they were sent back to Europe and most of them died.

All of that would have been a good narrative for Cortez to use, but per usual, she resorts to simply parroting progressive catch phrases and makes herself look retarded.

Chris
11-25-2018, 07:48 PM
There was actually a group of Jews who couldn’t get asylum in America during WWII because of unwarranted fear that they were communists, so they were sent back to Europe and most of them died.

All of that would have been a good narrative for Cortez to use, but per usual, she resorts to simply parroting progressive catch phrases and makes herself look retarded.

She's moved on to the Chinese camps now.

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Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 07:53 PM
She's moved on to the Chinese camps now.

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Maybe next up on pieces of American history she’s just now discovering, she’ll tackle the Japanese concentration camps that happened after Pearl Harbor.

Of all the things that the left wing needs, its own Sarah Palin isn’t one of them.

DMC
11-25-2018, 07:55 PM
As far as I know they’re still only civil penalties involving monetary fines. Why not make it a criminal penalty punishable with jail time? There are a bunch of contractors in Phoenix who knowingly hire illegals and willingly take the risk because the worst case scenario of a monetary penalty isn’t a big enough deterrent.

I agree but who goes to jail, the business owner or the foreman who did the hiring? Aren't LLCs and corporations exempt from individual jail time for hiring infractions?

ducks
11-25-2018, 07:56 PM
Cry me a river they used tear gas on them

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 07:57 PM
I agree but who goes to jail, the business owner or the foreman who did the hiring?
I think you’d need to demonstrate intent. If it’s someone who was pencil whipping I-9s and missed a few fake IDs then I don’t think that deserves any criminal penalty, but if there’s an obvious & systemic effort by an employer to hire illegals I would throw all parties involved in jail.

DMC
11-25-2018, 07:58 PM
She's moved on to the Chinese camps now.

1066849053282091008

Wait until she gets to slavery in her Wiki searches. She'll shit herself.

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 08:00 PM
Aren't LLCs and corporations exempt from individual jail time for hiring infractions?
Sorry, didn’t respond to this part.

Maybe they are, but if Trump is so impassioned about stopping illegal immigration, why not put legislation on the table that removes the exemption?

DMC
11-25-2018, 08:03 PM
Sorry, didn’t respond to this part.

Maybe they are, but if Trump is so impassioned about stopping illegal immigration, why not put legislation on the table that removes the exemption?

Seems like that would open the door to other litigation against these folks, meaning "incorporated" doesn't mean anything any longer, since you can be criminally charged for corporate decisions. I could see individual crimes like embezzlement, but hiring for the corporation? Stiffer financial penalties would be good, not criminal penalties though. I cannot imagine someone being in jail for giving someone employment.

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 08:03 PM
Wait until she gets to slavery in her Wiki searches. She'll shit herself.
I should mail her a copy of Howard Zinn’s the Peoples History of the United States. If she can get through it in the next few weeks she’ll have ample fodder to demagogue with when her term starts.

DMC
11-25-2018, 08:05 PM
I should mail her a copy of Howard Zinn’s the Peoples History of the United States. If she can get through it in the next few weeks she’ll have ample fodder to demagogue with when her term starts.

Aye yaye yaye... I won? Holy mother..I need to start studying. -AOC

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 08:09 PM
Seems like that would open the door to other litigation against these folks, meaning "incorporated" doesn't mean anything any longer, since you can be criminally charged for corporate decisions. I could see individual crimes like embezzlement, but hiring for the corporation? Stiffer financial penalties would be good, not criminal penalties though. I cannot imagine someone being in jail for giving someone employment.
There’s a lot where you’re already subject to criminal penalty though. Just off the top of my head, I’ve been the signer on applications filled out for healthcare facilities the company I work at owns to receive Medicaid reimbursement, and even though I was always signing on behalf of an LLC, I was subject to criminal penalty if I put anything on the application I knew to be untrue. I agree that you can’t create criminal liability for simple incompetence, but I don’t think creating it in the limited situations where there’s clear intent to break laws would make it easier to pierce the corporate veil in unrelated civil matters.

DMC
11-25-2018, 08:13 PM
There’s a lot where you’re already subject to criminal penalty though. Just off the top of my head, I’ve been the signer on applications filled out for healthcare facilities the company I work at owns to receive Medicaid reimbursement, and even though I was always signing on behalf of an LLC, I was subject to criminal penalty if I put anything on the application I knew to be untrue. I agree that you can’t create criminal liability for simple incompetence, but I don’t think creating it in the limited situations where there’s clear intent to break laws would make it easier to pierce the corporate vale in unrelated civil matters.

Perhaps requiring a notary signature for new hires (for the I-9) would suffice.

I've completed I-9's for people where I had to verify employment eligibility. I know for a fact that people get stuck with that duty with no formal training on it. A notary would have to sign off on the I-9 and that wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for them, where risk is concerned, and they'd get more business that way. I am not sure it doesn't eventually get there anyhow, but why have an untrained individual validate this shit?

Reck
11-25-2018, 08:22 PM
Aye yaye yaye... I won? Holy mother..I need to start studying. -AOC

Says the guy who helped elect a man who doesn't read and cant even spell simple words like Tap, Counsel and so many others.

:lol Also self proclaimed troller of twitter.

Will Hunting
11-25-2018, 08:23 PM
Perhaps requiring a notary signature for new hires (for the I-9) would suffice.

I've completed I-9's for people where I had to verify employment eligibility. I know for a fact that people get stuck with that duty with no formal training on it. A notary would have to sign off on the I-9 and that wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for them, where risk is concerned, and they'd get more business that way. I am not sure it doesn't eventually get there anyhow, but why have an untrained individual validate this shit?
I’m a notary (from before I got to hire people to do the bitch work) and there’s no training or anything, you fill out a form and answer a few questions. Even if you got training, you’re typically just checking a drivers license vs. an I-9 where your checking sone combination of a drivers license, social security card, passport, permanent resident ID, etc.

I don’t even think the problem is people making errors checking I-9s, that kind of shit just happens and isn’t worth criminal penalty. What needs to be addressed are employers who actively and knowingly l hire illegals to cut costs and low bid the competition on pricing, which is where intent comes in and why you should be able to carve that out as a criminal liability from corporate separateness laws.

DMC
11-25-2018, 08:36 PM
Says the guy who helped elect a man who doesn't read and cant even spell simple words like Tap, Counsel and so many others.

:lol Also self proclaimed troller of twitter.

I didn't vote for Trump. Goddamn you're stupid and confused.

I don't own a twitter account. How could I troll it?

Dayum.. you're really PMSing right now.

Reck
11-25-2018, 08:40 PM
I didn't vote for Trump. Goddamn you're stupid and confused.

I don't own a twitter account. How could I troll it?

Dayum.. you're really PMSing right now.

The default, "I didn't vote for Trump but I would semen shield for him whenever possible" shtick. boring talking point from Trumpies.

I didn't say you were. I said Trump did. :lol

Go do some cardio and leave the tranny porn for later.

Chris
11-25-2018, 08:43 PM
Reck :lol

DMC
11-25-2018, 08:47 PM
The default, "I didn't vote for Trump but I would semen shield for him whenever possible" shtick. boring talking point from Trumpies.

I didn't say you were. I said Trump did. :lol

Go do some cardio and leave the tranny porn for later.


I'm not trying anything. Merely pointing out facts.

Unlike you, I dont concern myself with your life and how you decide to live it.

:lol

ducks
11-25-2018, 09:59 PM
Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz deletes tweet suggesting 'chemical weapons' used at US-Mexico border

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-sen-brian-schatz-deletes-tweet-claiming-chemical-weapons-used-at-us-mexico-border

Chris
11-25-2018, 10:03 PM
Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz deletes tweet suggesting 'chemical weapons' used at US-Mexico border

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-sen-brian-schatz-deletes-tweet-claiming-chemical-weapons-used-at-us-mexico-border

1066838668780945408

:lmao

pgardn
11-25-2018, 10:05 PM
Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz deletes tweet suggesting 'chemical weapons' used at US-Mexico border

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-sen-brian-schatz-deletes-tweet-claiming-chemical-weapons-used-at-us-mexico-border

Was it banned by the UN?

What kind of gas did he claim was used ducks, a neurotoxin?

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 10:08 PM
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:lmao:lol Trump said he closed the border.

pgardn
11-25-2018, 10:10 PM
1066838668780945408

:lmao

This is actually a pertinent exaggeration by the Democratic Party. So use it properly.
Oh damn, you can’t.

ducks
11-25-2018, 10:17 PM
Mexico Says It Will Deport 500 Migrants Who Tried To Storm US Border

ducks
11-25-2018, 10:17 PM
Was it banned by the UN?

What kind of gas did he claim was used ducks, a neurotoxin?
I live in USA not un

Chris
11-25-2018, 10:18 PM
Trump

Another day, another ding :lol

DMC
11-25-2018, 10:19 PM
Another day, another ding :lol

:lol

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 10:19 PM
Another day, another ding :lolDoes this thread involve Trump and the border, Chris?

Yes or no.

pgardn
11-25-2018, 10:39 PM
I live in USA not un

Then no complaints.

STFU.

All gas is good.

ducks
11-25-2018, 10:45 PM
I prefer bullets cheaper do not want to waste money

Pavlov
11-25-2018, 10:49 PM
I prefer bullets cheaper do not want to waste moneyThen you don't want troops on the border either.

DMX7
11-25-2018, 10:50 PM
Wait until she gets to slavery in her Wiki searches. She'll shit herself.

If this Dems allow this to become our message, we will continue to get destroyed in white rural America in elections. Beto lost because the rural area of the state was a firewall from republican X (in this case Cruz)

pgardn
11-25-2018, 10:52 PM
I prefer bullets cheaper do not want to waste money

Webbed feet were meant to dig logical graves.

Chucho
11-25-2018, 11:42 PM
Another day, another ding :lol

:lol

ducks
11-26-2018, 12:35 AM
Then you don't want troops on the border either.

Cheaper to keep them out then let them in

ducks
11-26-2018, 12:36 AM
Webbed feet were meant to dig logical graves.

Why bury the dead ? Waste of time and money
They can see for themselves what happens when you beak the law

ducks
11-26-2018, 12:37 AM
If you did not vote for trump you voted for Clinton
If you did not vote at all you voted for Clinton

DMC
11-26-2018, 01:22 AM
If you did not vote for trump you voted for Clinton
If you did not vote at all you voted for Clinton

If you're not an American citizen you voted for Clinton because you didn't vote at all.

If you're a duck and since ducks cannot vote, you voted for Clinton

ducks voted for Clinton

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 02:10 AM
Cheaper to keep them out then let them inTroops aren't necessary to keep them out.

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 07:45 AM
There will be lots of pictures of bully, fascist AmeriKKKa gassing children because UberArschloch Nielsen says she won't support "lawlessness"

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 09:29 AM
there was no other "dissuader" than gassing children?

I bet there are US Army standing orders to fire at will

AmeriKKKan barbarity cheered on by Trash / Repug racist rabid loser cult mob

pgardn
11-26-2018, 09:39 AM
If this Dems allow this to become our message, we will continue to get destroyed in white rural America in elections. Beto lost because the rural area of the state was a firewall from republican X (in this case Cruz)

You got a migrant caravan helped along throwing rocks. This is clearly not the way to get processed properly. If one really wanted a better life in this country one would not be with this particular group. This is becoming a cheap stunt.

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 09:43 AM
Teargassing women and children.

Don't we have (squints) concentration camps for people like this?

pgardn
11-26-2018, 09:48 AM
Teargassing women and children.

Don't we have (squints) concentration camps for people like this?

At least they are not getting cooked to death in the back of an 18 wheeler.

There have been more pertinent signals that we have a problem that both parties need to work on.

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 09:59 AM
Central American immigration to the US is one issue among many.

So is the racism that keeps pushing Central American immigration forward as typical, when the facts on the ground have changed.

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 10:10 AM
the wake of the Dot.com bubble amd 2009 were the two big inflection points.

there are 1.1 million fewer Mexicans living in the US illegally than there were in 2007.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/02/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 10:59 AM
This old fat white guy epitomizes America's face of white male supremacy, and how law enforcement/military attracts ignorant, murderous, sadistic assholes

Shooting Pepper Spray at Children Okay, Former CBP Deputy Chief Tells Fox News, Because

'You Could Actually Put It on Your Nachos and Eat It'

https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/tear_gas_on_your_nachos.jpg?itok=X0jnFspZ

Ronald Colburn, president of the Border Patrol Foundation

and former national deputy chief of the CBP, appeared on Fox & Friends Monday morning and claimed the gas—which reports said led to children "screaming and coughing in the mayhem" that resulted from it—was really just

a "natural" product and "you actually could put it on your nachos and eat it."

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1055608821287186432/5a74zrRN_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques)Rebecca Marques@_RebeccaMarques
(https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques)
Nachos.... The layers of racism encapsulated in this short clip is extraordinary. #txlege (https://twitter.com/hashtag/txlege?src=hash)

8:30 AM - Nov 26, 2018 (https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques/status/1067063055320842241)


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1026489873526480897/JWe0OzWb_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/FatherTim)Tim Schenck@FatherTim
(https://twitter.com/FatherTim)
(https://twitter.com/FatherTim)Actually BOTH tear gas and pepper spray were fired at migrants.

I’ve been in a tear gas chamber for training purposes and know its effects.

Either way, it’s unconscionable.

As to this quote, who doesn’t like a side of racism with their nachos?


CSHecht@cs_hecht
(https://twitter.com/cs_hecht)
"These children are barefoot. In diapers. Choking on tear gas."

via @washingtonpost (https://twitter.com/washingtonpost)

we would love to see the Border Patrol president and his kids eat some pepper spray and tear gas on their nachos live on @foxandfriends (https://twitter.com/foxandfriends)

then FIRE HIM AND NIELSEN #DHS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DHS?src=hash) who gave orders 4 this

8:23 AM - Nov 26, 2018 (https://twitter.com/cs_hecht/status/1067061401569513472)

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/26/shooting-pepper-spray-children-okay-former-cbp-deputy-chief-tells-fox-news-because

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 12:37 PM
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bfb3211260000cd03847e93.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_nou pscale

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 12:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds4IO17VAAAnBkO?format=jpg&name=900x900

Spurs Homer
11-26-2018, 12:44 PM
This old fat white guy epitomizes America's face of white male supremacy, and how law enforcement/military attracts ignorant, murderous, sadistic assholes

Shooting Pepper Spray at Children Okay, Former CBP Deputy Chief Tells Fox News, Because

'You Could Actually Put It on Your Nachos and Eat It'

https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/tear_gas_on_your_nachos.jpg?itok=X0jnFspZ

Ronald Colburn, president of the Border Patrol Foundation

and former national deputy chief of the CBP, appeared on Fox & Friends Monday morning and claimed the gas—which reports said led to children "screaming and coughing in the mayhem" that resulted from it—was really just

a "natural" product and "you actually could put it on your nachos and eat it."

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1055608821287186432/5a74zrRN_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques)Rebecca Marques@_RebeccaMarques
(https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques)
Nachos.... The layers of racism encapsulated in this short clip is extraordinary. #txlege (https://twitter.com/hashtag/txlege?src=hash)

8:30 AM - Nov 26, 2018 (https://twitter.com/_RebeccaMarques/status/1067063055320842241)


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1026489873526480897/JWe0OzWb_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/FatherTim)Tim Schenck@FatherTim
(https://twitter.com/FatherTim)
(https://twitter.com/FatherTim)Actually BOTH tear gas and pepper spray were fired at migrants.

I’ve been in a tear gas chamber for training purposes and know its effects.

Either way, it’s unconscionable.

As to this quote, who doesn’t like a side of racism with their nachos?


CSHecht@cs_hecht
(https://twitter.com/cs_hecht)
"These children are barefoot. In diapers. Choking on tear gas."

via @washingtonpost (https://twitter.com/washingtonpost)

we would love to see the Border Patrol president and his kids eat some pepper spray and tear gas on their nachos live on @foxandfriends (https://twitter.com/foxandfriends)

then FIRE HIM AND NIELSEN #DHS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DHS?src=hash) who gave orders 4 this

8:23 AM - Nov 26, 2018 (https://twitter.com/cs_hecht/status/1067061401569513472)

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/26/shooting-pepper-spray-children-okay-former-cbp-deputy-chief-tells-fox-news-because




What you don't get is that for racist republicans;

these images are "feel good" stories.
This is their white supremacist in chief "showing them illegals" that Amerikkka is first. This is their white supremacist reassuring white supremacist supporters that he is following through on his promise to make amerikkka white again.


These pics just secretly make them giddy that their criminal leader is following through for their racist fantasies.

I wish I was kidding or wish it was hyperbole.

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 12:54 PM
1067015026995879937

lol "permanently"

Spurs Homer
11-26-2018, 01:07 PM
1067015026995879937

lol "permanently"

It is too rich that an unindicted co-conspirator in Felonies and a tax cheat, money laundering criminal -
freely throws around the "criminal" accusation at people seeking asylum - which is their legal right.

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 01:37 PM
1067015026995879937

lol "permanently"does not rhyme with prosperity.

DMC
11-26-2018, 01:43 PM
the wake of the Dot.com bubble amd 2009 were the two big inflection points.

there are 1.1 million fewer Mexicans living in the US illegally than there were in 2007.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/02/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/

This seems impossible to know unless they are referring to expired visas only. Undocumented is unrecorded.

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 01:49 PM
freely throws around the "criminal" accusation at people seeking asylumcable news and the yammering of millions of embittered losers has normalized the association of migrants with disease, crime and voting for liberals.

shouldn't crybabies have to adjust to the world and not the other way around?

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 01:53 PM
Trump is failing miserably on his biggest issue. And he’s covering it up with lies.

you can be certain that President Trump will amplify the claim that this turmoil strengthens his case for getting his way on immigration.

the real meaning of the latest mayhem:

It doesn’t give Trump “ammunition” at all.

Instead, it shows that Trump’s immigration agenda is a total and abject failure and that

he is covering up this glaring reality with lies.

Trump lashed out over the latest border clash.

He blamed it on the fact that his administration has stopped separating families,

claiming this now means “vast numbers of additional people storm the Border.”

He raged that the migrants are “stone cold criminals” and

that the Obama administration used the same family separation policy.

He vowed to close the border entirely if Mexico does not ship the migrants back home,

insisted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1066685057648214018) that Democrats “created this problem” and

once again demanded that Congress “fund the WALL!”

Trump blames the current crisis on being hamstrung in one way or another from deterring them with cruel and inhumane policies — he can’t separate the kids, and he can’t detain families indefinitely.

But this whole argument is based on a lie.

We already know that cruelty as deterrence doesn’t actually work —

and we know this because Trump’s own effort to do this failed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/26/trump-is-failing-miserably-on-his-biggest-issue-and-hes-covering-it-up-with-lies/?utm_term=.f618489107e0&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 01:54 PM
This seems impossible to know unless they are referring to expired visas only. Undocumented is unrecorded.Their methodology for determining the estimates is readily available to anyone who wishes to read it.

spurraider21
11-26-2018, 02:00 PM
DOJ already increased the penalties for hiring illegal immigrants back in 2016. ICE is also targeting employers as well.


Only Congress can do that.
:lmao

DMC
11-26-2018, 03:24 PM
Their methodology for determining the estimates is readily available to anyone who wishes to read it.

Translation: You didn't read the methodology

It's incredibly flawed.

Reck
11-26-2018, 03:28 PM
:lol

Your highlight of the day consisting of loling at one of chris's retarded posts. :lol

DMC
11-26-2018, 03:30 PM
For example: Just a quick search on Google gives this...

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

DMC
11-26-2018, 03:31 PM
:lmao


Your highlight of the day consisting of loling at one of chris's retarded posts. :lol

:lol

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 03:54 PM
Translation: You didn't read the methodology

It's incredibly flawed.I did. They are estimates.

You are free to state your problems with the methodology, but you will undoubtedly DerpMC out of doing so.

boutons_deux
11-26-2018, 03:54 PM
THE OCCUPATION (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/24/trump-border-military-deployment/)

In South Texas, Border Residents Struggle to Cope With the Latest Military Surge (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/24/trump-border-military-deployment/)

“They’ve got three kinds of helicopters down here,” he said, knowingly.

“That one’s Border Patrol,

then you’ve got the National Guard,

and the state police got their own.”

“But now, we also got the military,” Anzaldua added.

“I heard they’re down at the port of entries jumping out of black helicopters with submachine guns.

Both of them had lived along the Rio Grande their entire lives and the

recent deployment of more than 5,800 active duty soldiers near their homes and along the southern border still felt surreal,

many still remember when a U.S. Marine assigned to a drug interdiction task force mistakenly shot and killed an 18-year-old boy, Esequiel Hernández, in 1997 as he was herding goats in the small Texas border town of Redford.

Fatal shootings of unarmed residents by the Border Patrol is an ever-present danger.

In less than a decade, agents have fatally shot at least 25 unarmed people (http://www.southernborder.org/deaths_by_border_patrol) — some of them standing across the border in Mexico.

The Border Patrol often claimed the shootings were in self-defense because the victims had thrown rocks in the direction of agents.

“Having the military here is a disaster,” Anzaldua said.

“Or more likely a tragedy.

They are trained for war.

They shouldn’t be here.

But it’s not their fault.”

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/24/trump-border-military-deployment/

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 03:55 PM
For example: Just a quick search on Google gives this...

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimatesWatch muh video!

AaronY
11-26-2018, 03:59 PM
the wake of the Dot.com bubble amd 2009 were the two big inflection points.

there are 1.1 million fewer Mexicans living in the US illegally than there were in 2007.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/02/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/
Fake News by librul media!!

DarrinS
11-26-2018, 04:45 PM
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bfb3211260000cd03847e93.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_nou pscale


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds4IO17VAAAnBkO?format=jpg&name=900x900



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSIJfPnC1qs

Reck
11-26-2018, 04:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSIJfPnC1qs

The few retards that threw rocks doesn't deminished the fact tear gas was used..on women and children unprovoked.

koriwhat
11-26-2018, 04:51 PM
It is too rich that an unindicted co-conspirator in Felonies and a tax cheat, money laundering criminal -
freely throws around the "criminal" accusation at people seeking asylum - which is their legal right.

we just need to give up this bs asylum shit already. rot on the other side of the border!

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 04:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSIJfPnC1qs:lmao media narrative refutes media narrative

Darrin outraged!

koriwhat
11-26-2018, 04:52 PM
The few retards that threw rocks doesn't deminished the fact tear gas was used..on women and children unprovoked.

don't try and break our laws... fuck your feelings!

Spurs Homer
11-26-2018, 04:59 PM
don't try and break our laws... fuck your feelings!

says the guy who has no issues when he breaks the law to get high while bashing children who are tear gassed and put in cages by a russian traitor lolol

DMC
11-26-2018, 05:08 PM
I did. They are estimates.

You are free to state your problems with the methodology, but you will undoubtedly DerpMC out of doing so.

I wouldn't waste my time explaining them to you, retard :lol

DMC
11-26-2018, 05:09 PM
The few retards that threw rocks doesn't deminished the fact tear gas was used..on women and children unprovoked.

Talk to the Branch Davidians... oh wait.

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:10 PM
:yieldI wouldn't waste my time explaining them to you, retard :yieldlol DerpMC as predicted

DMC
11-26-2018, 05:13 PM
lol DerpMC as predicted

Chumpfest 2018 averted - Chump pissed

:lmao

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:15 PM
Chumpfest 2018 averted - Chump pissed

:lmao:lol nope. I predicted you'd shit yourself just like derp and you didn't disappoint.

lol poor DMC

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:15 PM
:lmao

Good thing I was talking about two different concepts with two different posters. Nice try though :tu

Reck
11-26-2018, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't waste my time explaining them to you, retard :lol

Except you do that all the time.

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:42 PM
8 U.S. Code § 1182 gives the President of the United States absolute authority to deny entry to any and all aliens he may choose.

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:44 PM
8 U.S. Code § 1182 gives the President of the United States absolute authority to deny entry to any and all aliens he may choose.Which part?

That code would take seven posts to put up here.

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:46 PM
Which part?

That code would take seven posts to put up here.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds8hx3gU4AAIhOE.jpg:large

DMC
11-26-2018, 05:47 PM
Except you do that all the time.

Reck agreeing that Chump is a retard :lol

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:47 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182Yeah, which part of that code, Chris?

Be more specific than whoever told you that was the case.

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:50 PM
1066939360031977472

"Vote for me and I will let them all in!"

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:51 PM
"Vote for me and I will let them all in!"Where is that direct quote from Beto, Chris?

Reck
11-26-2018, 05:51 PM
Reck agreeing that Chump is a retard :lol

I dont think that. :lol

I do think you saying you "wouldn't waste time explaining" something to Pav is a lie. In teh past few days you've spent hours going back and forth with the guy.

Someone who doesn't want to waste their time explaining their points and argument wouldn't reply to that said person. period

You're an attention whore.

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:53 PM
Where is that direct quote from Beto, Chris?

*whoooosh

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:53 PM
*whooooshOh, you just made it up.

:lmao fake Chris

Chris
11-26-2018, 05:56 PM
Oh, you just made it up.

:lmao fake Chris

*whoooosh

Chris
11-26-2018, 07:26 PM
1067193815788851200

Chris
11-26-2018, 07:27 PM
1067198035187429386

Chris
11-26-2018, 07:32 PM
Troops aren't necessary to keep them out.

1067205030971764736

:lol Pavlov

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 07:34 PM
1067205030971764736

:lol Pavlov:lmao like he's going to say anything else.

It's a simple waste of money. If the border patrol can't handle a few thousand people in Tijuana, they should just open the borders.

TSA
11-26-2018, 07:40 PM
:lmao media narrative refutes media narrative

Darrin outraged!

*honest reporter refutes media narrative

Are the majority of caravan members men or women and children?

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 07:41 PM
*honest reporter refutes media narrative

Are the majority of caravan members men or women and children?Men.

Give quotes from all the other sources stating the majority are women and children, TSA.

Chris
11-26-2018, 08:15 PM
1067098294197850112

TSA
11-26-2018, 08:41 PM
1067098294197850112

1067124541086998528

:lol

spurraider21
11-26-2018, 08:45 PM
i'll bet there's even a cameraman behind the photograph that's being used!

Chris
11-26-2018, 08:48 PM
1067124541086998528

:lol

Ho Lee Fuk :lmao :wow

TSA
11-26-2018, 09:03 PM
Men.

Give quotes from all the other sources stating the majority are women and children, TSA. Same narrative was attempted in Europe.

Inside an Immigrant Caravan: Women and Children, Fleeing Violence

“More than 1,000 people, mostly women and children, waited patiently on Wednesday in the shade of trees and makeshift shelters in a rundown sports complex in this Mexican town, about 600 miles south of the border.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/world/americas/mexico-trump-caravan.html


These are the migrant women and children Donald Trump is sending the army to protect America from

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/migrant-caravan-trump-immigrant-us-army-mexico-children-midterms-2018-a8601736.html


An Intimate Look at Life Inside the Migrant Caravan

http://time.com/longform/migrant-caravan-mexico/


Thousands of migrant children are trekking hundreds of miles in a caravan to the US. These powerful pictures show their difficult journey.

https://www.thisisinsider.com/migrant-caravan-children-photos-mexico-2018-11

Pavlov
11-26-2018, 09:07 PM
Same narrative was attempted in Europe.

Inside an Immigrant Caravan: Women and Children, Fleeing Violence

“More than 1,000 people, mostly women and children, waited patiently on Wednesday in the shade of trees and makeshift shelters in a rundown sports complex in this Mexican town, about 600 miles south of the border.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/world/americas/mexico-trump-caravan.html


These are the migrant women and children Donald Trump is sending the army to protect America from

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/migrant-caravan-trump-immigrant-us-army-mexico-children-midterms-2018-a8601736.html


An Intimate Look at Life Inside the Migrant Caravan

http://time.com/longform/migrant-caravan-mexico/


Thousands of migrant children are trekking hundreds of miles in a caravan to the US. These powerful pictures show their difficult journey.

https://www.thisisinsider.com/migrant-caravan-children-photos-mexico-2018-11So none.

lol TSA and his April narratives

DMX7
11-26-2018, 09:34 PM
there was no other "dissuader" than gassing children?

I bet there are US Army standing orders to fire at will

AmeriKKKan barbarity cheered on by Trash / Repug racist rabid loser cult mob

I don’t like the use of tear gas, but it wasn’t like it was indiscriminately fired into the migrant camps. It was fired right along the wall that the migrants were trying to break down. The parents should not have brought kids while trying to break through the border wall fence because it put everyone in danger. It looked like rocks were being thrown and total chaos.

koriwhat
11-27-2018, 12:16 AM
says the guy who has no issues when he breaks the law to get high while bashing children who are tear gassed and put in cages by a russian traitor lolol

everyone accepts the risks involved.

ps: you're very irrational. were you this pissed off when obama was raising children in kennels?

Spurs Homer
11-27-2018, 12:23 AM
everyone accepts the risks involved.

Just the same way you justify breaking the law to get your high -
is the same way

other people justify breaking the law to survive and/or to try and keep their children from being forced into a cartel or forced into prostitution.

If you were in their shoes - and decided to save your children -
I would not crucify you for seeking asylum in another country - which is PERFECTLY LEGAL.

To sum up;

While you actually break the law by using illegal drugs -
you crucify people for trying to save their children and falsely call them lawbreakers.

Check yourself.

koriwhat
11-27-2018, 12:28 AM
Just the same way you justify breaking the law to get your high -
is the same way

other people justify breaking the law to survive and/or to try and keep their children from being forced into a cartel or forced into prostitution.

If you were in their shoes - and decided to save your children -
I would not crucify you for seeking asylum in another country - which is PERFECTLY LEGAL.

To sum up;

While you actually break the law by using illegal drugs -
you crucify people for trying to save their children and falsely call them lawbreakers.

Check yourself.

how do you suppose i am crucifying anyone? i just agree with having a strong border is all.

we don't live in a utopia so stop acting like we do where borders don't exist and everyone, every culture, and every being lives in perfect harmony.

Spurs Homer
11-27-2018, 12:38 AM
how do you suppose i am crucifying anyone? i just agree with having a strong border is all.

we don't live in a utopia so stop acting like we do where borders don't exist and everyone, every culture, and every being lives in perfect harmony.

your comment was something like "fuck them - they broke the law coming here"

Which is completely wrong.

Seeking asylum is LEGAL.
We have a system in place. If anyone broke the law - it is Trump. He suddenly closed the door on asylum seekers.
Instead of the president upholding the law- which makes it LEGAL to seek asylum -

he gave an order to stop people and NOT ALLOW THEM TO SEEK LEGAL ASYLUM.

This is illegal. An illegal order. He went against the law and the constitution - just to score political points with racist cult members like you who do not think before supporting this criminal.

We have 320 million people here. Every year we can accept a few hundred thousand. Thousands age and die. Thousands kill each other. Thousands leave. Thousands are born. Thousands age - and stop working.



You think we can just allow our LAWS to do what they were designed to do - to accomodate these 3-4,000 people who are seeking asylum?

Before Trump started his little charade - these 3-4k people did not bother you at all. Why do you allow yourself to be manipulated by a con man criminal traitor white supremacist like this?

You had a brain before Trump. You lived by your own rules before this cult swallowed you.

Wake the fuck up.

ducks
11-27-2018, 01:03 AM
Troops aren't necessary to keep them out.

Prove it

koriwhat
11-27-2018, 01:05 AM
your comment was something like "fuck them - they broke the law coming here"

Which is completely wrong.

Seeking asylum is LEGAL.
We have a system in place. If anyone broke the law - it is Trump. He suddenly closed the door on asylum seekers.
Instead of the president upholding the law- which makes it LEGAL to seek asylum -

he gave an order to stop people and NOT ALLOW THEM TO SEEK LEGAL ASYLUM.

This is illegal. An illegal order. He went against the law and the constitution - just to score political points with racist cult members like you who do not think before supporting this criminal.

We have 320 million people here. Every year we can accept a few hundred thousand. Thousands age and die. Thousands kill each other. Thousands leave. Thousands are born. Thousands age - and stop working.



You think we can just allow our LAWS to do what they were designed to do - to accomodate these 3-4,000 people who are seeking asylum?

Before Trump started his little charade - these 3-4k people did not bother you at all. Why do you allow yourself to be manipulated by a con man criminal traitor white supremacist like this?

You had a brain before Trump. You lived by your own rules before this cult swallowed you.

Wake the fuck up.

yeah, i don't buy it.

Chucho
11-27-2018, 01:09 AM
yeah, i don't buy it.

LOL, he was pitching you to jump ship to his Cult by trying to appeal to you thru faux flattery.

Spurs Homer
11-27-2018, 01:19 AM
LOL, he was pitching you to jump ship to his Cult by trying to appeal to you thru faux flattery.

lol

Native American worshipping the white supremacist who will throw him in an oven in a second

cult got you in da grip!

Chucho
11-27-2018, 01:20 AM
lol

Native American worshipping the white supremacist who will throw him in an oven in a second

cult got you in da grip!

:lol :lol

Spurs Homer
11-27-2018, 01:22 AM
triggered

:lol:lol

RandomGuy
11-27-2018, 11:42 AM
1067098294197850112

"the jacket is flapping so the moon landings are faked!!!"

:rollin

Anything is better than admitting you wet your pants in fear at the thought of brown women and kids in diapers, I guess.

MultiTroll
11-27-2018, 12:43 PM
:rollin

Anything is better than admitting you wet your pants in fear at the thought of brown women and kids in diapers, I guess.

Anything is better then addressing the actual photo Chris posted?
Lame deflection by you.

boutons_deux
11-27-2018, 01:01 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1067239152889065473

DMC
11-27-2018, 01:20 PM
"the jacket is flapping so the moon landings are faked!!!"

:rollin

Anything is better than admitting you wet your pants in fear at the thought of brown women and kids in diapers, I guess.

You should be doing something to help the brown people in your area. You don't have to cross the border to find brown people in need. I'm sure your beer money might suffer so you won't do it but you'll just pontificate on the internet like the blowhard that you are.

koriwhat
11-27-2018, 02:40 PM
You should be doing something to help the brown people in your area. You don't have to cross the border to find brown people in need. I'm sure your beer money might suffer so you won't do it but you'll just pontificate on the internet like the blowhard that you are.

:tu

Chris
11-27-2018, 02:54 PM
90% of the caravan not eligible for asylum

8,500 members

600 known criminals

4 Border Patrol Agents injured

Pavlov
11-27-2018, 02:56 PM
90% of the caravan not eligible for asylumDid you already process all of them, Chris?

Chris
11-27-2018, 03:09 PM
1067078072900485121

:lol

hater
11-27-2018, 04:11 PM
90% of the caravan not eligible for asylum

So?



8,500 members

And?



600 known criminals

:snooze



4 Border Patrol Agents injured

Probably got injured eating cheeseburgers in their vehicles tbqh

MultiTroll
11-27-2018, 06:52 PM
haha. Film due out today taken by the military showing what really came down.
Not the poseur pics.

Chris
11-27-2018, 07:01 PM
1067566818045382656

Chris
11-27-2018, 07:21 PM
1067154930866229264

MultiTroll
11-27-2018, 07:50 PM
Border Patrol agent hit by rock.

As the faggot below sits in his taxpayer paid group home:


So?




And?



:snooze



Probably got injured eating cheeseburgers in their vehicles tbqh

Chris
11-27-2018, 07:52 PM
As the faggot below sits in his taxpayer paid group home:



He's been added to the list for blatant trolling.

ducks
11-27-2018, 09:40 PM
Illegals can get up to $3,874 a month under Federal Assistance program.

Our social security checks are on average $1200 a month.

Let that sink in ...

ducks
11-27-2018, 09:41 PM
1067154930866229264

If it is on USA soil FUCK the un

AaronY
11-27-2018, 09:48 PM
https://i.redd.it/0knacott0okz.jpg

Chucho
11-27-2018, 10:14 PM
Aaron getting every mile out of his dead horses. Good work.

ElNono
11-27-2018, 10:17 PM
Are we still waiting for Mexico to pay for det wall, tbh?

pgardn
11-27-2018, 10:31 PM
Are we still waiting for Mexico to pay for det wall, tbh?

my insurance is somehow not the biggest bestest.
So I’ve been waiting for the replace part of the biggest bestest plan.
I asked a Mexican to pay for my insurance but he refused.

Whoever thought this would be so complicated?m

But thankfully we denuclearized North Korea. So I guess their new facilities counts as our new infrastructure.
It’s good having a president who keeps his promises.

ducks
11-27-2018, 10:40 PM
Did you know USA sending money to Mexico from USA is second biggest money maker for Mexico
All you have to do is tax the money to Mexico

Chinook
11-27-2018, 10:44 PM
I just wish we could have a political system that acknowledges positions on immigration that are between Trump's shit and the "no one is illegal" stance. I was hanging out with my father yesterday, and he was watching MSNBC. There was a guy on there who despite saying over and over again that he thought Trump was going too far with sending the military and closing the border checkpoint, made the apparent mistake of saying that the US had the right to not let a caravan into its borders just because the people in that caravan want to live in the US. Homeboy got torn to shreds under accusations of him supporting tear gas and ignoring asylum law. There has to be something better, because the last thing we need in 2020 is to replace Trump with someone just as reckless in the other direction.

pgardn
11-27-2018, 10:49 PM
Did you know USA sending money to Mexico from USA is second biggest money maker for Mexico
All you have to do is tax the money to Mexico

So I should’ve paid even more taxes on the tequila I bought. In the US.
Is that about a yard razor wire on top of the wall ducks?

What am I thinking trading dollars for tequila...
And it’s for my wife. This is so wrong

ducks
11-27-2018, 10:53 PM
I would think more would be willing to pay more for cheap products from Mexico and not have to worry about illegals coming in and throwing rocks at their relatives

ducks
11-27-2018, 10:55 PM
So I should’ve paid even more taxes on the tequila I bought. In the US.
Is that about a yard razor wire on top of the wall ducks?

What am I thinking trading dollars for tequila...
And it’s for my wife. This is so wrong
Would not doubt tequila is your wife

ducks
11-27-2018, 10:55 PM
I got a 4 dollar haircut in Mexico the other day

pgardn
11-27-2018, 10:59 PM
I would think more would be willing to pay more for cheap products from Mexico and not have to worry about illegals coming in and throwing rocks at their relatives

So pay more for cheap products.
Which would then make them expensive products.

It’s all so clear to me now.

pgardn
11-27-2018, 11:01 PM
Would not doubt tequila is your wife

Yes

Exactly

pgardn
11-27-2018, 11:04 PM
I got a 4 dollar haircut in Mexico the other day

Did you supply the bowl you had your egg drop soup in?

ducks
11-27-2018, 11:10 PM
No I smiled and shaked his hand for a great haircut

ducks
11-27-2018, 11:11 PM
Yes

Exactly
That is the problem with the younger generation


Trump does not drink you should try it
Would help your thinking !!!

DMC
11-27-2018, 11:13 PM
So pay more for cheap products.
Which would then make them expensive products.

It’s all so clear to me now.

So if 2 dollars is cheap, 2.25 is expensive?

Bifurcate much? (sorry, unable to make this rhyme).

ducks
11-27-2018, 11:22 PM
Paying 2.25 for something that is 2 now is cheaper then a hospital bill from a illegal hurting you or a funeral

AaronY
11-27-2018, 11:27 PM
Paying 2.25 for something that is 2 now is cheaper then a hospital bill from a illegal hurting you or a funeral
Is this like an inspirational image to you or something?

https://i.redd.it/0knacott0okz.jpg
lmao

ducks
11-27-2018, 11:28 PM
I know people buy pistols and bullets and practice to protect themselves from illegals
Cost money and time

AaronY
11-27-2018, 11:29 PM
I know people buy pistols and bullets and practice to protect themselves from illegals
Cost money and time
every single post is votingrepublican.jpeg lmao

ducks
11-27-2018, 11:31 PM
I have voted for democracts

I have never voted for flake or McCain !!!!!!!!!!!!

AaronY
11-27-2018, 11:32 PM
I have voted for democracts

I have never voted for flake or McCain !!!!!!!!!!!!
You could at least try not to be such a stereotype ducks i mean smh c'mon

Chucho
11-27-2018, 11:35 PM
Paying 2.25 for something that is 2 now is cheaper then a hospital bill from a illegal hurting you or a funeral

Final expense insurance is super cheap, even the minorities impoverished by Democrat policy can afford it.

Nathan89
11-28-2018, 12:04 AM
I just wish we could have a political system that acknowledges positions on immigration that are between Trump's shit and the "no one is illegal" stance. I was hanging out with my father yesterday, and he was watching MSNBC. There was a guy on there who despite saying over and over again that he thought Trump was going too far with sending the military and closing the border checkpoint, made the apparent mistake of saying that the US had the right to not let a caravan into its borders just because the people in that caravan want to live in the US. Homeboy got torn to shreds under accusations of him supporting tear gas and ignoring asylum law. There has to be something better, because the last thing we need in 2020 is to replace Trump with someone just as reckless in the other direction.

The other direction is far more reckless. Hillary wanted to import 500k refugees from inbred countries. They have lots of kids and we have birthright citizenship. Surely that would be beneficial to the US.

Nathan89
11-28-2018, 12:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/X9oXimz.jpg

Racial discrimination. Ahh, such incentive. https://imgur.com/Demgyenhttps://imgur.com/Demgyen

Nathan89
11-28-2018, 12:15 AM
The other direction is far more reckless. Hillary wanted to import 500k refugees from inbred countries. They have lots of kids and we have birthright citizenship. Surely that would be beneficial to the US.

Right-Wing Poland: Subway in Western Europe vs Subway in Poland

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BofZgyo26Vvy/

Europe:lmao
This is what Clinton wanted:lmao

AaronY
11-28-2018, 12:20 AM
Right-Wing Poland: Subway in Western Europe vs Subway in Poland

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BofZgyo26Vvy/

Europe:lmao
This is what Clinton wanted:lmao
which commenter are you nathan?

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That last one made my skin crawl. Such calm and civility... :/


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priemer • 10 days ago
Poland looks nice while Germany and England looks like shitholes.


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staff office • 8 hours ago
Whites are better than any other race,blacks and mudslim are savages.


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peacefrog • 2 hours ago
the pols are great people and their women are hot!



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nekrololi • 7 hours ago
I'm willing to bet some of the people on the Polish train are kikes. Isn't Poland and Eastern Europe infested with hooked noses, it's their backup base that's why the immigration virus hasn't destroyed those places yet.

Nathan89
11-28-2018, 12:21 AM
:lmao mad that immigrants can get a job but your retarded ass can’t

Not caring about poor Americans but pushing the opposite narrative.:lol

UnWantedTheory
11-28-2018, 02:57 AM
I just wish we could have a political system that acknowledges positions on immigration that are between Trump's shit and the "no one is illegal" stance. I was hanging out with my father yesterday, and he was watching MSNBC. There was a guy on there who despite saying over and over again that he thought Trump was going too far with sending the military and closing the border checkpoint, made the apparent mistake of saying that the US had the right to not let a caravan into its borders just because the people in that caravan want to live in the US. Homeboy got torn to shreds under accusations of him supporting tear gas and ignoring asylum law. There has to be something better, because the last thing we need in 2020 is to replace Trump with someone just as reckless in the other direction.
People don't actually want moderation. We are a society that loves to hate and fear something. Life is meaningless to people without those things for some reason. Trump definitely knows that.

DMX7
11-28-2018, 03:25 AM
Illegals can get up to $3,874 a month under Federal Assistance program.

Our social security checks are on average $1200 a month.

Let that sink in ...

link.... where did you come up with that number?

Isitjustme?
11-28-2018, 03:43 AM
Not caring about poor Americans but pushing the opposite narrative.:lol

Is "narrative" like a dictionary word of the day you've discovered recently? Lmao

Pavlov
11-28-2018, 03:48 AM
No I smiled and shaked his hand for a great haircutGet an American haircut you fucking commie.

Pavlov
11-28-2018, 03:49 AM
The other direction is far more reckless. Hillary wanted to import 500k refugees from inbred countries. They have lots of kids and we have birthright citizenship. Surely that would be beneficial to the US.I'm calling bullshit on your numbers.

Fabbs
11-28-2018, 08:50 AM
Chief Border Patrol Agent for the San Diego Sector, Rodney Scott, defends the use of tear gas on migrants trying to cross the U.S.-Mexican border near Tijuana this weekend, telling CNN that border patrol officers in riot gear were pelted with rocks by a group that mostly consisted of young men. 42 crossed the border and were arrested.

"I kind of challenge that it was a peaceful protest, or that the majority of these people were claiming asylum," Rodney Scott told CNN.

"What I saw on the border yesterday was not people walking up to border patrol agents and asking to claim asylum," Scott said. "If they were truly asylum-seekers they would've just walked up with their hands up and surrendered, but that did not take place."

"What we saw over and over yesterday was the group, the caravan, would push women and children towards the front and then, basically, ‘rocking’ our agents … We tried to target the instigators, specifically those assaulting the agents, but once that chemical is released, it does go through the air," he said about the use of tear gas.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/11/26/san_diego_border_patrol_chief_asylum-seekers_would_surrender_not_throw_rocks.html

benefactor
11-28-2018, 08:56 AM
I would think
You probably shouldn't.

Winehole23
11-28-2018, 10:15 AM
Did you know USA sending money to Mexico from USA is second biggest money maker for Mexico
All you have to do is tax the money to MexicoSomebody else thought of that too:

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/85R/billtext/pdf/HB01760I.pdf#navpanes=0



I've heard that filing taxes for money transfers is a must. Also, the gift tax is fairly generous if you've got the money to spend.

https://www.finder.com/irs-taxes-on-large-money-transfers

Winehole23
11-28-2018, 10:22 AM
the "targeting of instigators" verbiage recalls the talk around IDF security measures in GAZA. is it like that?


yet somehow it will be

*ding and

false equivalence

to point out that


https://www.newsweek.com/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-pepper-spray-border-dozens-times-cbp-data-1233255

Winehole23
11-28-2018, 12:25 PM
Greg Sargent calls out Sinclair agitprop. Thread delivers.


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Winehole23
11-28-2018, 12:26 PM
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boutons_deux
11-28-2018, 01:16 PM
Repugs, voters and pols and judges, are the largest threat to America and Americans.

Fabbs
11-28-2018, 01:49 PM
Unreal the politicians sit on their ass and don't tax money being sent from U.S. to Mex.

On-the-take jellyfish. :rolleyes

Why isn't Don using this as Wall money?

boutons_deux
11-28-2018, 01:52 PM
Unreal the politicians sit on their ass and don't tax money being sent from U.S. to Mex.

On-the-take jellyfish. :rolleyes

Why isn't Don using this as Wall money?

free flow of Capital was one of the priorities of the 1970s-80s globalization push.

Unrestricted capital flows have been going on for many years.

rmt
11-28-2018, 05:17 PM
free flow of Capital was one of the priorities of the 1970s-80s globalization push.

Unrestricted capital flows have been going of for many years.

So, bou, are you for taxing the money being sent from US to Mex?

boutons_deux
11-28-2018, 05:30 PM
So, bou, are you for taxing the money being sent from US to Mex?

WTF?

hell no, why should Labor's outflows be taxed while Capital's $Bs aren't?

Nathan89
11-28-2018, 11:42 PM
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1067541984074698753?s=20

That's how activist news works folks. Have to push that narrative.

Pavlov
11-28-2018, 11:43 PM
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1067541984074698753?s=20

That's how activist news works folks. Have to push that narrative.
lol Nathan is still freaking out about the media.

rmt
11-29-2018, 05:58 AM
lol Nathan is still freaking out about the media.

The media freaks out about tear gas, etc under Trump but not Obama.

boutons_deux
11-29-2018, 07:06 AM
were kids gassed in Obama years?

Isitjustme?
11-29-2018, 07:23 AM
were kids gassed in Obama years?

Yes, but remember he was a rightwing nutjob in your book boo

Chris
11-29-2018, 04:54 PM
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boutons_deux
11-29-2018, 07:15 PM
Trump’s border violence is sick entertainment for his fans — and they love it

Trump’s supporters were thrilled by the tear-gas assault on migrants at the border.

https://www.alternet.org/trumps-border-violence-sick-entertainment-his-fans-and-they-love-it

Nathan89
11-29-2018, 07:48 PM
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Sounds like outstanding people. Who doesn't like manipulative and demanding people?

Chris
11-29-2018, 07:53 PM
Sounds like outstanding people. Who doesn't like manipulative and demanding people?

Who else is going to pick the vegetables and fruits?!

Fabbs
11-29-2018, 07:56 PM
Sounds like outstanding people. Who doesn't like manipulative and demanding people?
The "hunger strike" will be held at a border crossing for visibility (and media photo ops.)

Pavlov
11-29-2018, 08:00 PM
Sounds like outstanding people. Who doesn't like manipulative and demanding people?Like Loomer's protest today?

Chris
11-29-2018, 08:01 PM
Like Loomer's protest today?

Peaceful protest bad now.

Pavlov
11-30-2018, 02:12 AM
Peaceful protest bad now.Nathan said it was bad. Take it up with him.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 08:10 AM
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1067541984074698753?s=20

That's how activist news works folks. Have to push that narrative.the primary reporting on these figures was done by Newsweek.

Pushing det narrative.

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-pepper-spray-border-dozens-times-cbp-data-1233255

MultiTroll
11-30-2018, 09:03 AM
the primary reporting on these figures was done by Newsweek.

Pushing det narrative.

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-pepper-spray-border-dozens-times-cbp-data-1233255
Are the numbers off or something?

DMC
11-30-2018, 09:16 AM
Sounds like outstanding people. Who doesn't like manipulative and demanding people?

Sounds like Americans already.

DMC
11-30-2018, 09:18 AM
the primary reporting on these figures was done by Newsweek.

Pushing det narrative.

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-pepper-spray-border-dozens-times-cbp-data-1233255

Doesn't that support the assertion that media didn't pay any attention to it?

boutons_deux
11-30-2018, 09:22 AM
Yes, but remember he was a rightwing nutjob in your book boo

link?

Obama is neoliberal, captured by, at least, BigFinance, just like the Dem establishment, really nasty with whistleblowers, but not a r/w n/j

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 09:30 AM
Are the numbers off or something?Not as far as I know.

Nathan89's RT debunking the librul narrative relies on Newsweek.

Pretty much all the original reporting, even for edgy alt-lite counter-narratives, comes from the despised MSM.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 09:31 AM
Doesn't that support the assertion that media didn't pay any attention to it?That it was published in Newsweek contemporaneously with the tear-gassing suggests not.

DMC
11-30-2018, 09:40 AM
That it was published in Newsweek contemporaneously with the tear-gassing suggests not.

That's a confusing statement.

A. The MSM didn't pay much attention to it
B. The MSM did pay much attention to it

Pick one

boutons_deux
11-30-2018, 09:42 AM
Why didn't Repugs make a big stink, and they know how, about gassings in Obama years?

Maybe because they support gassing asylum seekers?

DMC
11-30-2018, 09:45 AM
Why didn't Repugs make a big stink, and they know how, about gassings in Obama years?

Maybe because they support gassing asylum seekers?


Because it's not a big deal? No one gets hurt, it's a crowd dispersion tactic. It wasn't a big deal until some folks who needed a sensational story decided to make it one. Tear gas has been deployed against citizens during riots.

Fake outrage

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 09:51 AM
That's a confusing statement.

A. The MSM didn't pay much attention to it
B. The MSM did pay much attention to it

Pick oneYou're undercaffeinated.

Newsweek instantly contextualized the use of tear gas by citing the incidence under Obama.

That's the MSM paying attention.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 09:52 AM
alt-lite posters Nathan89 and Chris are riding Newsweek's coattails when they point to the use of tear gas under Obama.

DMC
11-30-2018, 10:12 AM
You're undercaffeinated.

Newsweek instantly contextualized the use of tear gas by citing the incidence under Obama.

That's the MSM paying attention.

There's a significant difference between retrospective attention and attention during that time. Show me MSM reports of CS gas deployment prior to this latest caravan fiasco. That's the point that was being made.

DMC
11-30-2018, 10:13 AM
alt-lite posters Nathan89 and Chris are riding Newsweek's coattails when they point to the use of tear gas under Obama.

So?

Where was the outrage then?

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 10:22 AM
There's a significant difference between retrospective attention and attention during that time. Show me MSM reports of CS gas deployment prior to this latest caravan fiasco. That's the point that was being made.MSM is unfair because they didn't report on Obama doing it, until Trump did it.

Newsweek put it in context instantly.

The gripe that Obama got a pass from the media on his historic ramping up of immigration enforcement is mostly true, but there wasn't a media blackout -- indeed there was enough contemporaneous reporting on it for me to notice and repost it in this forum.

At the time, liberals and conservatives alike were willing to ignore it, board Trumpalos only care about Obama's harsh immigration policies now that Trump's even harsher policies are being used -- rightly in my opinion -- to bash Trump.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 10:24 AM
I criticized Obama for his harsh immigration policies in this forum, so I feel free to do the same with Trump.

There's more continuity than change, tbh.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 10:25 AM
So?

Where was the outrage then?Almost entirely absent in this forum, on the right or the left.

MultiTroll
11-30-2018, 10:29 AM
Newsweek put it in context instantly.

and so Newsweek did.
Good for them.

Was in response to:
:cry Trumps a meanie for using gas on illegal border crashers :cry

Move on.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 10:30 AM
Immigration lawyers and NGOs, however, did notice, and so did the reporters who were talking to them.

Winehole23
11-30-2018, 10:31 AM
and so Newsweek did.
Good for them.

Was in response to:
:cry Trumps a meanie for using gas on illegal border crashers :cry

Move on.so long as posters rely on MSM reporting to claim there is a media blackout on honest reporting, I will point it out.

ducks
12-03-2018, 10:00 AM
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pgardn
12-03-2018, 03:06 PM
So if 2 dollars is cheap, 2.25 is expensive?

Bifurcate much? (sorry, unable to make this rhyme).

Great, make up some numbers

SpursforSix
12-03-2018, 03:22 PM
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Winehole23
12-23-2020, 01:47 AM
Fox pushing the caravan narrative again

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Winehole23
03-09-2021, 10:18 PM
gaining momentum


Fox pushing the caravan narrative again

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Winehole23
03-09-2021, 10:21 PM
Besides avoidable mass death and morbidity, ethno-nationalism and a fascistic GOP are likely to be Trump's main legacy.