***** Official 2018 Election Night Thread *****

[benefactor]

This gibberish here means white trash, right?

Dont be PC now will..this is spurstalk remember
:lol...mah nigga

[Reck]

Scott and Desantis won't lose. FOX News has a 100% track record on their "projection" calls. Which is amazing long-term and considering they tend to make a lot of calls first. They called Obama first in 2012 by an hour, and the Dems to win the House this year by an hour.

Yeah let's not go to a recount because mah fox says so.

[Reck]

Also Rick Scott going into desperation mode?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senate-candidate-rick-scott-sues-florida-election-supervisor-brenda-snipes-as-rubio-sounds-alarm-about-dems-stealing-race

(https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senate-candidate-rick-scott-sues-florida-election-supervisor-brenda-snipes-as-rubio-sounds-alarm-about-dems-stealing-race)(Fox link for my nigga millennial :lol)

This is the second time the GOP has tried to sue in less than 2 days. Worry much?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah let's not go to a recount because mah fox says so.

FOX News has surprisingly and quietly trended toward the left over the past few weeks or more... wonder what's up.

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
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Law Enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with Election Fraud in #Broward and Palm Beach. Florida voted for Rick Scott!

[Will Hunting]

Oh look, another GOP lawsuit trying to stop votes from being counted.

[Reck]

Oh look, another GOP lawsuit trying to stop votes from being counted.


"Late Tuesday night, our win was projected to be around 57,000 votes," Scott told reporters. "By Wednesday morning, that lead dropped to 38,000. By Wednesday evening, it was around 30,000. This morning, it was around 21,000. Now, it is 15,000."

This dude is literally crying about not getting more votes from a democratic county which always has disproportionate votes going to the dems. :lol

[ducks]

Oh look voting fraud and democracts say let them count

[Pavlov]

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
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Law Enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with Election Fraud in #Broward and Palm Beach. Florida voted for Rick Scott!Yeah, there have been, let's see, zero big corruption scandals having to do with election fraud in the last half century.

lol fake news

[ducks]

The county should know how many more they have to count and report it
Not keep making voters ballots up!

[Pavlov]

Oh look voting fraud and democracts say let them countWhat fraud, ducks?

Be specific with your charges.

[Pavlov]

The county should know how many more they have to count and report it
Not keep making voters ballots up!Prove they are making ballots up, ducks.

[Will Hunting]

Oh look voting fraud and democracts say let them count
Yeah actually that’s how Democracy works, you keep counting votes until there’s a clear election winner.

God damn you are so fucking stupid.

[ducks]

He continued: "On election night, Broward County said there were 634,000 votes cast. At 1 a.m. today, there were 695,700 ballots cast on election day. At 2:30 p.m. today, the number was up to 707,223 ballots cast on Election Day. And we just learned, that the number has increased to 712,840 ballots cast on election day. In Palm Beach County, there are 15,000 new votes found since election night.





Fraud!!!!!!!

[ducks]

Damm people keeping voting to see if they can get their guy elected
How many of them are dead?

[Will Hunting]

Damm people keeping voting to see if they can get their guy elected
How many of them are dead?
Can you provide examples of dead people voting?

The only one I saw was in 2016 when a woman voted for Trump under her dead mothers name.

[Pavlov]

He continued: "On election night, Broward County said there were 634,000 votes cast. At 1 a.m. today, there were 695,700 ballots cast on election day. At 2:30 p.m. today, the number was up to 707,223 ballots cast on Election Day. And we just learned, that the number has increased to 712,840 ballots cast on election day. In Palm Beach County, there are 15,000 new votes found since election night.





Fraud!!!!!!!lol no

[Pavlov]

Damm people keeping voting to see if they can get their guy elected
How many of them are dead?Going by statistics from the last 50 years, none.

[Will Hunting]

BREAKING NEWS

As votes get counted, the number of votes of counted increases!!!

[Will Hunting]

MOAR BREAKING NEWS

As votes get counted in an area that’s traditionally 70% Democrat, the Democratic candidate usually gets more votes than his opponent.

[ducks]

lol no

Why are they finding more ballots ?

[Will Hunting]

Why are they finding more ballots ?
They’re not “finding” them. They always had them and they’ve always been extremely slow in counting ballots (largely because the Republican controlled state legislature doesn’t provide them enough manpower and infrastructure as a way to suppress the vote)

[Pavlov]

Why are they finding more ballots ?Maybe checked around before they left the polling and storage places tbh. If a box is sealed and not marked as counted, they should be counted.

[pgardn]

Oh look voting fraud and democracts say let them count

Bush v. Gore

But red team can’t lose close races...

[Will Hunting]

Idk why I’m arguing with the biggest mongoloid on this forum tbh, kinda making me feel stupid.

[ducks]

Prove they are making ballots up, ducks.

Prove they are not

That is why Rubio said all countries are doing it correct and according to Florida laws
Requesting law enforcement to make sure no fraud


Why are
Democracts thinking making sure no fraud bad

[ducks]

Bush v. Gore

But red team can’t lose close races...

We in 2018 idiot

[pgardn]

Why are they finding more ballots ?

Ducks...

Have you heard of mailed in ballots?
Well this year there was an Big increase in almost every state.
They take longer to count. They take up physical volume. They come in at vastly different times compared to election day voting.
They are more difficult to count compared to polling station electronic ballots. (early or late)

[pgardn]

We in 2018 idiot

So what.

[ducks]

Idk why I’m arguing with the biggest mongoloid on this forum tbh, kinda making me feel stupid.

I am not boutons

[ducks]

Ducks...

Have you heard of mailed in ballots?
Well this year there was an Big increase in almost every state.
They take longer to count. They take up physical volume. They come in at vastly different times compared to election day voting.
They are more difficult to count compared to polling station electronic ballots. (early or late)
In az they must be in their hands to count Election Day
Not postmarked

[DMC]

:lol all the guys ITT pretending they have accurate assessments of rape, probably have bondage and torture vids cued up right now

[pgardn]

Prove they are not

That is why Rubio said all countries are doing it correct and according to Florida laws
Requesting law enforcement to make sure no fraud


Why are
Democracts thinking making sure no fraud bad

Burden of proof on you ducks. The recount is monitored.
The lady running the show in a large Florida county messed up before so she is monitored.
Do you want an article to read?

[pgardn]

In az they must be in their hands to count Election Day
Not postmarked

So what?
They still come in at different times.

[ducks]

Ducks...

Have you heard of mailed in ballots?
Well this year there was an Big increase in almost every state.
They take longer to count. They take up physical volume. They come in at vastly different times compared to election day voting.
They are more difficult to count compared to polling station electronic ballots. (early or late)why so much slower then Other counties there
Kids counting ?

[ducks]

They must be in there hands Tuesday day of election
This is Thursday

[pgardn]

why so much slower then Other counties there
Kids counting ?

Because they don’t know how many mail ins they will receive. The lady in Florida got in trouble for not counting some mail ins before. Do you need an article?

[Pavlov]

Prove they are not:lol demanding I prove a negative.

[Will Hunting]

:lol demanding I prove a negative.
Yeah this is why I stopped arguing with him. He’s got a room temperature IQ and I doubt he understands the concept of proving and negative.

[pgardn]

They must be in there hands Tuesday day of election
This is Thursday

Wrong.
They must be mailed in 6 days before the election in Florida.
They must be in AT the voting station no later than 7 pm of ELECTION DAY.
They had said they still had mail in votes to count and they would still be counting in Florida.
Florida has a large % of old people who mail in ducks.

Do you need an article?

[pgardn]

This is gonna be scrutinized ducks.
The red team is upset.

You don’t understand the trouble with mail ins for ANY system.
If everyone would just physically show up and vote at their polling station before or on Election Day and every official knew exactly how many people would vote anticipating volunteer needs correctly this might meet your simplistic expectations.

[pgardn]

Little Marco claims blue team lawyers are descending upon Florida to CHANGE votes

TSA

get in here...

[BanditHiro]

........

[AaronY]

This is gonna be scrutinized ducks.
The red team is upset.

You don’t understand the trouble with mail ins for ANY system.
If everyone would just physically show up and vote at their polling station before or on Election Day and every official knew exactly how many people would vote anticipating volunteer needs correctly this might meet your simplistic expectations.
Hasnt an automatic recount been triggered already?

[AaronY]

If the recount has been triggered people should be patient and let the recount take its course

[pgardn]

Hasnt an automatic recount been triggered already?

Depends on which race you are talking about. There are a number in Florida and some in other states that are going through both. Still counting and recounting because the counting of mail ins, etc... have caused the threshold for a recount to be met.

[AaronY]

I mean regardless of what happens on the first count

[AaronY]

Depends on which race you are talking about. There are a number in Florida and some in other states that are going through both. Still counting and recounting because the counting of mail ins, etc... have caused the threshold for a recount to be met.
Threshold in Florida is margin <.5% and the senate there looks like a lock for that

[pgardn]

I mean regardless of what happens on the first count

The “first count” was not finished in some of these cases.
There were some incredibly close races with a lot of mail ins combined with many people voting.

[pgardn]

Threshold in Florida is margin <.5% and the senate there looks like a lock for that

Red team is gonna fight that because what you call the first count was not finished, or, the blue team “found” more votes on the so called first count that was not finished, but it was finished according to some red team members.
There are ways to argue this in Broward for example, because the lady who runs the thing has screwed up before. But in one case it was by losing and or declaring some mail ins unacceptable.

[Winehole23]

Gov. Rick Scott is asking the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate vote counting in South Florida’s Democratic stronghold counties, questioning whether “rampant fraud” is happening as his race for U.S. Senate appears headed for a hand recount.https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-scott-sues-snipes-20181108-story.html

[Chris]

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Rudy smells a rat.

[BanditHiro]

1060736663637450753

Rudy smells a rat.

lol complaining about shitty voting infrastructure that is purposely put in place by the GOP.

[Winehole23]

Sinema leads McSally:

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

[boutons_deux]

Rick Scott Accuses Democrats of Trying to Thwart G.O.P.’s Successful Voter Suppression

TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA —In a hastily called press conference on Thursday evening, Florida Governor Rick Scott accused Democrats of nefariously plotting to undo the Republican Party’s highly successful voter-suppression effort.

“As Republicans, we have worked tirelessly to intimidate, discourage, and otherwise disenfranchise millions of Florida voters,”

a visibly enraged Scott said.

“We are not about to let Democrats swoop in at the last minute and ruin all of that fine work.”

Scott angrily singled out the Broward County and Palm Beach County supervisors for their “rampant enforcement of the right to vote.”

“They are literally finding votes by people we are a hundred per cent sure we had scared away from the voting booths,”

he said. “This will not stand.”

The Florida governor said that if Democrats think that they can undermine the Republicans’ arduous and painstaking efforts to suppress votes in Florida, “they better think again.”

“I will not sit idly by while every vote is counted,” Scott said.

“This is Florida, goddammit.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/rick-scott-accuses-democrats-of-trying-to-thwart-gops-successful-voter-suppression (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/rick-scott-accuses-democrats-of-trying-to-thwart-gops-successful-voter-suppression)

[ducks]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she can’t afford apartment in DC until she receives congressional salary

[Will Hunting]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she can’t afford apartment in DC until she receives congressional salary
Neat.

[Winehole23]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she can’t afford apartment in DC until she receives congressional salarypublic service presents challenges for regular working folks

[LkrFan]

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[baseline bum]

Honestly, my favorite part of this midterm was retarded Rick Perry letting the cat out of the bag that they were still going forward with building that nuclear dump site in Nevada that Heller had been assuring voters wouldn't happen, which completely blindsided Heller. That self inflicted October Surprise cost Trump that senate seat in Nevada. :lol

[LkrFan]

1061039239394197506

[Reck]

Well Sinema now leads by 20 thousand or so. There is a chance.

[ducks]

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/45642440_1990526610996206_1941797814518415360_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=007c2731fbd964c994df4097288ef1a2&oe=5C3D6F34

[baseline bum]

Well Sinema now leads by 20 thousand or so. There is a chance.

Stossel's electionbettingodds.com (which was surprisingly accurate on election day) now has Sinema an 87.5 to 12.5 favorite.

[hater]

Finally a victory for these poor bastards :lmao

Still isnt Cinema a democrat in name only :lmao

[Reck]

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/45642440_1990526610996206_1941797814518415360_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=007c2731fbd964c994df4097288ef1a2&oe=5C3D6F34

lol outdated.

dems are up to 33 seats since Tuesday and 11 races are left t be called.

[Will Hunting]

Well Sinema now leads by 20 thousand or so. There is a chance.
Her losing would be a big surprise at this point.

[Reck]

Her losing would be a big surprise at this point.

Trump the tard is mad. He wants a redo. :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Trump the tard is mad. He wants a redo. :lmao
Can’t believe the fucking president is throwing a temper tantrum on twitter asking for a fucking redo :lmao

[spurraider21]

Can’t believe the fucking president is throwing a temper tantrum on twitter asking for a fucking redo :lmao
by his own logic if the GOP wins in a recount that proves the GOP committed voter fraud. how else could they find new votes!!?!?

[SnakeBoy]

Can’t believe the fucking president is throwing a temper tantrum on twitter asking for a fucking redo :lmao

lol you can't believe. Where have you been for the past 3 years?

[Will Hunting]

lol you can't believe. Where have you been for the past 3 years?
It wasn’t a literal comment, I think you know what I meant :lol

[Winehole23]

Joshua Harder pulled ahead in CA10. Dem ceiling is now +39.

[Winehole23]

cascading failure in Porter County, indiana:


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[Winehole23]

DJT spent a few hours today live tweeting Fox News. Is it normal for one outlet to have a mind meld on POTUS?

I guess it is now.

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[Millennial_Messiah]

Honestly, my favorite part of this midterm was retarded Rick Perry letting the cat out of the bag that they were still going forward with building that nuclear dump site in Nevada that Heller had been assuring voters wouldn't happen, which completely blindsided Heller. That self inflicted October Surprise cost Trump that senate seat in Nevada. :lol
Nevada is a demographically liberal state. I don't see it ever swinging back to the GOP for either Senate or the Electoral college tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Joshua Harder pulled ahead in CA10. Dem ceiling is now +39.

so basically a 16 seat majority?

[Winehole23]

we'll see

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trill Clinton]

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[Winehole23]

1060026917934514176Ruth Buffalo, a member of the Mandan, Hidatsa Arikara Nation, and from Fort Berthold Reservation, will be the only Native woman representing Fargo in the state legislature. (ND27-Fargo)

She beat Randy Boehning, the guy who wrote the 2013 voter ID law that required Native Americans living on reservations in ND to have street addresses to vote.

[boutons_deux]

The Blue Wave that Everyone Missed: Democrats Had a Huge Win in the Midterms — But We're Only Realizing It Now

Many Democrats were disappointed Tuesday night. But that reaction now looks premature.

The much-predicted blue wave actually did come in this week in a big way — even if few observers noticed at first

FiveThirtyEight (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-16-races-still-too-close-to-call/) projects that Democrats will win a net gain of 37 seats in the house.

That not only gives them control but represents a monumental turnaround — which is particularly impressive considering the GOP's extensive gerrymandering of the country.

"The fact is, this week more Americans chose Democrats than Trump.

Just like they did in 2016."

"This blue wave in the House was historic. And I don't mean 'historic' as like a debatable adjective. I literally mean 'historic,' in the sense of history."

He noted (using a lower projection of 35 House seats gained) that this was the greatest wave election in four decades for the Democrats.

The only other time the party won such a big night was during President Richard Nixon's most scandalous years.

"There was a moment, around 10:30pm EST on Tuesday night when I thought GOP was gonna pick up SIX senate seats," said MSNBC's Chris Hayes (https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1060685520664174592). "They mayyyy end up with only a net gain of ONE." (FiveThirtyEight is projecting a GOP gain in the Senate of 2 seats.)

Democratic gains at the state-level were extremely impressive.

"You’ve probably heard that over the eight years Barack Obama was president, Democrats lost a net of almost a thousand seats in state legislatures," Waldman wrote (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/07/yes-it-was-a-wave-here-are-all-the-other-ways-progressives-won/?utm_term=.58b69dac657d). "Which is bad, but last night

Democrats gained about 300 seats, so they’re well on their way to reversing those losses."

The DLCC, in fact, reported that it had flipped 350 state legislature (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/democrats-midterm-victories-state-legislatures-will-have-huge-impacts/575170/) seats by Wednesday morning — and it may end up closer to 400 (https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1060714158138769408).

Democrats have flipped seven governorships in their direction,

while Republicans flipped none.

"So in terms of the message voters sent, 2018 was unquestionably on par with other midterm waves like 1994, 2006 and 2010. You can see the results wherever you look."

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/blue-wave-everyone-missed-democrats-had-huge-win-midterms-were-only-realizing-it

[Will Hunting]

The Blue Wave that Everyone Missed: Democrats Had a Huge Win in the Midterms — But We're Only Realizing It Now

Many Democrats were disappointed Tuesday night. But that reaction now looks premature.

The much-predicted blue wave actually did come in this week in a big way — even if few observers noticed at first

FiveThirtyEight (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-16-races-still-too-close-to-call/) projects that Democrats will win a net gain of 37 seats in the house.

That not only gives them control but represents a monumental turnaround — which is particularly impressive considering the GOP's extensive gerrymandering of the country.

"The fact is, this week more Americans chose Democrats than Trump.

Just like they did in 2016."

"This blue wave in the House was historic. And I don't mean 'historic' as like a debatable adjective. I literally mean 'historic,' in the sense of history."

He noted (using a lower projection of 35 House seats gained) that this was the greatest wave election in four decades for the Democrats.

The only other time the party won such a big night was during President Richard Nixon's most scandalous years.

"There was a moment, around 10:30pm EST on Tuesday night when I thought GOP was gonna pick up SIX senate seats," said MSNBC's Chris Hayes (https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1060685520664174592). "They mayyyy end up with only a net gain of ONE." (FiveThirtyEight is projecting a GOP gain in the Senate of 2 seats.)

Democratic gains at the state-level were extremely impressive.

"You’ve probably heard that over the eight years Barack Obama was president, Democrats lost a net of almost a thousand seats in state legislatures," Waldman wrote (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/07/yes-it-was-a-wave-here-are-all-the-other-ways-progressives-won/?utm_term=.58b69dac657d). "Which is bad, but last night

Democrats gained about 300 seats, so they’re well on their way to reversing those losses."

The DLCC, in fact, reported that it had flipped 350 state legislature (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/democrats-midterm-victories-state-legislatures-will-have-huge-impacts/575170/) seats by Wednesday morning — and it may end up closer to 400 (https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1060714158138769408).

Democrats have flipped seven governorships in their direction,

while Republicans flipped none.

"So in terms of the message voters sent, 2018 was unquestionably on par with other midterm waves like 1994, 2006 and 2010. You can see the results wherever you look."

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/blue-wave-everyone-missed-democrats-had-huge-win-midterms-were-only-realizing-it



It’s a shame that milenials, blacks and hispanics took this long to realize that midterm elections are actually important.

[boutons_deux]

It’s a shame that milenials, blacks and hispanics took this long to realize that midterm elections are actually important.

60% of voters say that Trash got them to the polls, 40% against, 20% for.

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/608520/story_image/votebingo.png?1541536745

[boutons_deux]

Trash said he wasn't on the ballot and they the election was about him.

Voters to Trash:

https://media.giphy.com/media/iJxHzcuNcCJXi/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/1ScF5MuJRL4Os/giphy.gif

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[LkrFan]

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#ItAintOva!!

[LkrFan]

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David Dennison BIG MAD right about now. Floriduh bout to have a chocolate Governor! :lmao

[BanditHiro]

Can’t believe the fucking president is throwing a temper tantrum on twitter asking for a fucking redo :lmao

would love to see a Redo after him firing Sessions and putting a guy that is under FBI investigation to take his place.

[Reck]

1061334846893682690
David Dennison BIG MAD right about now. Floriduh bout to have a chocolate Governor! :lmao

Gillum has virtually no shot. He's too far behind for that type of comeback. Nelson is the only real one with any sort of shot.

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[Will Hunting]

Gillum has virtually no shot. He's too far behind for that type of comeback. Nelson is the only real one with any sort of shot.
Imo if Nelson closes a 12.5k gap through a recount it means there was a systemic error in how votes were counted and depending on what that was Gillum would also have a chance.

[Spurs Homer]

I'm all for a recount - not so much because of Gillum/Nelson possibly winning -

but because the chances increase that if there was Repub fuckery going on - and I am pretty sure there was -

that this might uncover more corruption.

Why do you suppose repukes are so pissed at recounts?
Because they know they fucked around with the election and are mad that their corruption might be exposed.

[Will Hunting]

Gillum’s race might be the more important one. If Florida has a Democratic governor it means no more gerrymandering when they redistrict in 2021 and it means there won’t be voter suppression in Southeast Florida anymore. Probably becomes a lean blue state without 5 hour lines to vote in Broward and Miami-Dade County.

[Will Hunting]

I'm all for a recount - not so much because of Gillum/Nelson possibly winning -

but because the chances increase that if there was Repub fuckery going on - and I am pretty sure there was -

that this might uncover more corruption.

Why do you suppose repukes are so pissed at recounts?
Because they know they fucked around with the election and are mad that their corruption might be exposed.
The Republican fuckery in FL goes on in more subtle ways (5 hour lines at the polls in inner city Miami, ridiculous laws that make it impossible for felons to vote after they’re out of jail, precincts that don’t have enough voting booths, a butterfly ballot, etc). I would be seriously surprised if there was anything like rigged voting machines that got uncovered through a recount.

[boutons_deux]

One big takeaway from the midterms: It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that

the next Democratic presidential candidate could win the popular vote by 10% and still lose in the electoral college.

(Democrats have a 12.5-pt lead in the popular vote in all contested senate races and have lost 4 seats.)

+ Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)


https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/11/09/roaming-charges-nancys-house-of-cards/

[Spurs Homer]

One big takeaway from the midterms: It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that

the next Democratic presidential candidate could win the popular vote by 10% and still lose in the electoral college.

(Democrats have a 12.5-pt lead in the popular vote in all contested senate races and have lost 4 seats.)

+ Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)


https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/11/09/roaming-charges-nancys-house-of-cards/

[Reck]

Well damn, Sinema grows her lead to almost 30k.

Can we call this shit already.

[Will Hunting]

Well damn, Sinema grows her lead to almost 30k.

Can we call this shit already.
A lot of the votes counted today were from counties where McSally was supposed to do well so the fact Sinema’s lead grew is telling. I think it’ll be a few more days before McSally concedes.

[baseline bum]

A lot of the votes counted today were from counties where McSally was supposed to do well so the fact Sinema’s lead grew is telling. I think it’ll be a few more days before McSally concedes.

Source? I thought it was only Maricopa and Pima that still had votes to count, aside from the <10,000 that needed signatures updated.

[baseline bum]

Well damn, Sinema grows her lead to almost 30k.

Can we call this shit already.

There were supposed to be something like 350,000 votes yet to be counted as of this morning. DOK was saying they can only process 75,000 votes a day so that would still be 275,000 votes to count. I wouldn't consider a 30,000 vote lead safe with that much still left to count.

[Will Hunting]

Source? I thought it was only Maricopa and Pima that still had votes to count, aside from the <10,000 that needed signatures updated.
Na there were still 50-60k left in the other counties where all the crazy people live.

If you look on CNN you can see that the vote count was updated for a lot of the other counties today.

[Reck]

There were supposed to be something like 350,000 votes yet to be counted as of this morning. DOK was saying they can only process 75,000 votes a day so that would still be 275,000 votes to count. I wouldn't consider a 30,000 vote lead safe with that much still left to count.

The bulk of those though are from Maricopa and Pima county where Sinema is getting more votes from.

Like Will Hunting said, earlier the tally was updated and McSally actually cut into the 20 thousand lead and got it to around 18k. The 5PM batch benefited Sinema obviously.

[baseline bum]

Na there were still 50-60k left in the other counties where all the crazy people live.

If you look on CNN you can see that the vote count was updated for a lot of the other counties today.

What's your source on the 50-60k left though? Or is it from watching the vote counts on CNN's map?

[baseline bum]

The bulk of those though are from Maricopa and Pima county where Sinema is getting more votes from.

Like Will Hunting said, earlier the tally was updated and McSally actually cut into the 20 thousand lead and got it to around 18k. The 5PM batch benefited Sinema obviously.

Still Maricopa has some very red parts too. With 275,000 votes left to count it could still turn out bad.

[Will Hunting]

What's your source on the 50-60k left though? Or is it from watching the vote counts on CNN's map?
My source is azcentral.com

[Will Hunting]

Still Maricopa has some very red parts too. With 275,000 votes left to count it could still turn out bad.
The thing is that the red parts of Maricopa are largely suburban areas that became purple on this election cycle. It’s a lot of educated women who have voted Republican their entire life but despise Trump and voted Democrat down the ballot this time around.

Its why I’m optimistic that Arizona is truly becoming a purple state. It’s rural areas are more Hispanic and diverse so it doesn’t have the stronghold of rural conservative voters that other red states do, it’s been red in the past because of how conservative Phoenix was and that seems to be changing.

[baseline bum]

My source is azcentral.com

OK thanks, I just checked their coverage of the election. So McSally seems to be banking on mail in ballots dropped off at polling sites in Maricopa on election day to save her. Claims there are 200,000 such ballots.

[baseline bum]

The thing is that the red parts of Maricopa are largely suburban areas that became purple on this election cycle. It’s a lot of educated women who have voted Republican their entire life but despise Trump and voted Democrat down the ballot this time around.

Its why I’m optimistic that Arizona is truly becoming a purple state. It’s rural areas are more Hispanic and diverse so it doesn’t have the stronghold of rural conservative voters that other red states do, it’s been red in the past because of how conservative Phoenix was and that seems to be changing.

Are statewide races still ruby red though? It's not a case of diminished enthusiasm because McSally was once a Trump critic?

[Will Hunting]

Are statewide races still ruby red though? It's not a case of diminished enthusiasm because McSally was once a Trump critic?
The governors race was ruby red because the Democratic candidate was a clown who went over the top pandering to Hispanics (legitimately wore a sombrero during a speech), but the other races were really close.

The diminished enthusiasm in Phoenix is because of Trump, not because of McSally. The feud between Trump and McCain particularly pissed a lot of Phoenix Republicans off.

[baseline bum]

The governors race was ruby red because the Democratic candidate was a clown who went over the top pandering to Hispanics (legitimately wore a sombrero during a speech), but the other races were really close.

The diminished enthusiasm in Phoenix is because of Trump, not because of McSally. The feud between Trump and McCain particularly pissed a lot of Phoenix Republicans off.

That makes sense. Hopefully that means the state remains purple for the 2020 election too then.

[Will Hunting]

That makes sense. Hopefully that means the state remains purple for the 2020 election too then.
I think it goes blue if a candidate like Beto is able to get the young and Hispanic vote engerized.

It’s also why I think Nevada is solid blue now. The midterms if nothing else show that there’s a giant divide between rural and urban America right now and if that divide continues to grow Nevada and Arizona don’t have a big enough white rural voter base to keep electing conservatives.

[baseline bum]

I think it goes blue if a candidate like Beto is able to get the young and Hispanic vote engerized.

It’s also why I think Nevada is solid blue now. The midterms if nothing else show that there’s a giant divide between rural and urban America right now and if that divide continues to grow Nevada and Arizona don’t have a big enough white rural voters to keep electing conservatives.

Still, Rosen got a lot of help from Rick Perry's ignorant ass when at the end of October Perry announced they were still building that nuclear waste dump that Heller had been campaigning against. I'm not sure I'd call it a blue state yet.

[Will Hunting]

Still, Rosen got a lot of help from Rick Perry's ignorant ass when at the end of October Perry announced they were still building that nuclear waste dump that Heller had been campaigning against. I'm not sure I'd call it a blue state yet.
You have to look at population trends though - Vegas is one of the fastest growing cities in the county so 2 years from now its vote is going to make up an even bigger portion of the state.

[boutons_deux]

Who designed the ballot?


Butterfly redux? Bad ballot in Broward County may cost Nelson thousands of votes—and maybe the win (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/8/1811374/-Butterfly-redux-Bad-ballot-in-Broward-County-may-cost-Nelson-thousands-of-votes-and-maybe-the-win)

from (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/florida-recount-nelson-scott-desantis-gillum.html) the New York Times:

Results from Broward [County, Florida] so far indicate that

nearly 25,000 people cast votes for governor but not for senator,

even though the Senate race came first on the ballot.

Enthusiasm for Mr. Gillum’s candidacy may account for some of the difference, since he excited many voters who cared chiefly about electing him.

But some Democrats believe that the design of the ballot used in the county played a role:

The Senate contest appeared in the bottom left-hand corner of the first page,

beneath the instructions to voters,

where it may have been easily overlooked.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1811374 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1811374)

Are the (FL) ballots reviewed and approved before the election?

Repug ratfuckers.

[Will Hunting]

Sorry boo but that ballot was approved by Broward County officials, can’t blame the GOP for that one.

[boutons_deux]

Sorry boo but that ballot was approved by Broward County officials, can’t blame the GOP for that one.

each county designs its own ballots, or are they statewide?

[boutons_deux]

Oligarchy buying elections to block regulations. Citzens simply can't outbig oligarchy's $Bs

How Big Oil Money Killed Green Ballot Measures (https://earther.gizmodo.com/big-oil-money-still-wins-1830286130)

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--yz4uNRN8--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/as7u5laxktqwsjr56csr.jpg

Four major ballot measures would have limited fracking, expanded renewables, and enacted the nation’s first-ever carbon fee bit the dust on Tuesday.

The common theme between them was the record-setting amount of fossil fuel (and in the case of an Arizona renewable energy measure, utility) money put into the opposition campaigns.

All told, roughly $100 million was deployed in the interest of staving off these regulations,

and the investment paid dividends for the opponents at the expense of the climate.

https://earther.gizmodo.com/big-oil-money-still-wins-1830286130?

[boutons_deux]

...

[boutons_deux]

AZ Repugs want to simply stop counting ballots. ratfuckers

[Will Hunting]

each county designs its own ballots, or are they statewide?
Each county has its own. Palm Beachs ballot had the senate race showing more prominently on the ballot so it didn’t have this issue.

[FrostKing]

We won

Make a new thread for your next lose

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1061501440642949120?s=21

[LkrFan]

1061243670333214720
:wow

[boutons_deux]

"I think it's time we started talking about this." :lol

The Constitution won't be / can't be amended because the Repugs/oligarchy have $Bs to obtain/maintain domination of the red/slave/rural states that will block any progressive amendment, eg the fucked up Senator allotment (30% of the population gets 70% of the Senators), to protect wealth and power of the oligarchy.

So "talking about this" says one has no fucking idea that the oligarchy is unstoppably continuing to fuck up America for the non-oligarchy.

BigOil just spent pocket-change of $100M, in mid-terms, to block regulations on BigOil in several states. Unstoppable.

A Constitutional amendment? G M A F B

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1061501440642949120?s=21
but the states have feelings!

[Will Hunting]

:cry muh constitution :cry

[Winehole23]

:cry muh constitution :cryare we back to originalism now?

a week ago when we were horrified by the caravan it was supposed to change with the times.

[AaronY]

1060950944953888768

Yasss die phaggot

[Pavlov]

1060950944953888768

Yasss die phaggot
1061649185110417408

"Party of Tolerance"

[Reck]

1061649185110417408

"Party of Tolerance"

This is the kind of retarded comments Will Hunting was talking about that allows a democrat to win on a state he has no business winning. :lol these republicans

[Will Hunting]

This is the kind of retarded comments Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) was talking about that allows a democrat to win on a state he has no business winning. :lol these republicans
:lol it’s too bad that comment came too late.

If not for Trump they probably have a super majority in the senate.

[Pavlov]

:lol it’s too bad that comment came too late.

If not for Trump they probably have a super majority in the senate.Not too late for this runoff tbh.

[Will Hunting]

Not too late for this runoff tbh.
Do people recast votes? I thought it was one where everyone made a 2nd choice on their ballot.

[Pavlov]

Do people recast votes? I thought it was one where everyone made a 2nd choice on their ballot.
Yeah, it's a whole new election.

She'll probably win, but Jesus Christ lynching jokes.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah, it's a whole new election.

She'll probably win, but Jesus Christ lynching jokes.
I just checked and she literally responded with “it was just a joke” :lmao:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

1061649185110417408

"Party of Tolerance"

demonic

[Chris]

1061689335844614145

Democrats will do ANYTHING to win.

[Pavlov]

1061689335844614145

Democrats will do ANYTHING to win.That is the biggest letterhead font in recorded history.

[ducks]

The President Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton said Over 1,400 voters attempted to register with their alien number.

“Of the 143,542 new voter registrations in Maricopa County, AZ between Jan 1-Sep 25, 2018, 1,470 registrants provided Alien Registration Numbers, meaning they were aliens not eligible to vote: @JudicialWatch investigation,” Fitton tweeted.

[Pavlov]

The President Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton said Over 1,400 voters attempted to register with their alien number.

“Of the 143,542 new voter registrations in Maricopa County, AZ between Jan 1-Sep 25, 2018, 1,470 registrants provided Alien Registration Numbers, meaning they were aliens not eligible to vote: @JudicialWatch investigation,” Fitton tweeted.So they weren't even registered.

The system works.

[Reck]

“With the latest ballot count, Kyrsten’s lead is insurmountable," Andrew Piatt's statement said. "McSally’s campaign said today’s results would be her ‘firewall’ but as we expected, no firewall emerged ... Kyrsten has now expanded her overall lead to 32,640 or 1.52 percent, meaning McSally would have to win the remainder of Maricopa County ballots by 22 percent to take the lead in this race. This is not plausible. Kyrsten will be declared the next U.S. Senator from Arizona.”

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/11/martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-senate-race-ballot-counting-results/1967206002/

Womp womp.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/DiversityCounts/status/1061775741329653760

This race was callled in his favor on election night. The democrat now leads by a hair.

[LkrFan]

1062037957245317120
:)

[LkrFan]

"Commander in Chief" cocksucker wouldn't go visit his troops in a war zone like other presidents, now this:
1062058541236797440
Fat fucker. SMH

[LkrFan]

Man what you Houston area farmers tryna do?
1062066362040967168
SMH

[Will Hunting]

1062037957245317120
:)
Link to where this became official? I see that Sinema’s lead has grown but I don’t see where McSally has dropped out or anything.

[Reck]

Link to where this became official? I see that Sinema’s lead has grown but I don’t see where McSally has dropped out or anything.

Random twitter people calling races. :lol

I dont know if David Wasserman is legit or knows what he's talking about but he also "called it."

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1061773342112247808

I think Today's batch will be the decider though. And from what I hear, McSally is going to take over from Jon Kyl and ride out McCain's term. :lmao

A gift if you ask me. Democrats are prime for that seat and with her on it it just becomes that easier because she would have been rejected once in Arizona already.

[Will Hunting]

Random twitter people calling races. :lol

I dont know if David Wasserman is legit or knows what he's talking about but he also "called it."

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1061773342112247808

I think Today's batch will be the decider though. And from what I hear, McSally is going to take over from Jon Kyl and ride out McCain's term. :lmao

A gift if you ask me. Democrats are prime for that seat and with her on it it just becomes that easier because she would have been rejected once in Arizona already.
:lmao I REALLY hope they do that. That will go over horribly with voters.

[pgardn]

1061689335844614145

Democrats will do ANYTHING to win.

You find every alt Right lying bhatch source on the internets...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/big-league-politics/

[Chris]

You find every alt Right lying bhatch source on the internets...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/big-league-politics/

"Alt-right"

Don't @ me with your troll shit churl.

[Winehole23]

this one's making the rounds today. here's the editor's note for the 2012 story:


The initial list of 180,000 names was whittled to 2,625, according to the Florida Department of State. The state then checked a federal database and stated it found 207 noncitizens on the rolls (not necessarily voting but on the rolls). That list was sent to county election supervisors to check and it also turned out to contain errors. An Aug. 1, 2012, state elections document showed only 85 noncitizens were ultimately removed from the rolls out of a total of about 12 million voters at that time.https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Nearly-200000-Florida-Voters-May-Not-Be-Citizens-151212725.html

[Winehole23]

"Alt-right"

Don't @ me with your troll shit churl.Thane Chris with ye quainte Medieval smacke.


From Middle English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_English) churl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/churl#Middle_English), cherl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=cherl&action=edit&redlink=1), cheorl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=cheorl&action=edit&redlink=1), from Old English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English) ċeorl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ceorl#Old_English) (“a freeman of the lowest class, a churl, a countryman, husbandman, a hero, husband, man, male person, a man of inferior class, peasant, rustic, commoner, layman”), from Proto-Germanic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Germanic_language) *karilaz (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/karilaz) (“man, elder”), from Proto-Indo-European (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language) *ǵerh₂- (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/%C7%B5erh%E2%82%82-) (“grown-up, old, mature”). Cognate with Scots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language) churl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/churl#Scots) (“a churl, a rustic”), North Frisian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Frisian_language) tzierl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=tzierl&action=edit&redlink=1), tjierl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=tjierl&action=edit&redlink=1), tsjerl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=tsjerl&action=edit&redlink=1) (“fellow, man, churl”), West Frisian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language) tsjirl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tsjirl#West_Frisian) (“fellow, churl”), Dutch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language) kerel (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kerel#Dutch) (“man, churl, fellow”), Low German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German) kerl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kerl#Low_German), kerel (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kerel#Low_German), kirl (https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=kirl&action=edit&redlink=1) (“man, fellow, churl”), German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language) Kerl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kerl#German) (“man, fellow”), Swedish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_language) karl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/karl#Swedish) (“man, fellow”), Icelandic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_language) karl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/karl#Icelandic) (“a male”), Polish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language) karzeł (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/karze%C5%82#Polish) (“a small man”). The deprecating sense develops by 1300. The variant carl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carl), carle (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carle) (without derogatory connotation) is a loan from the Old Norse cognate. See carl (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carl#English), carle (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carle#English).

https://www.etymonline.com/word/churl

[Chris]

Thane Chris with ye quainte Medieval smacke.



https://www.etymonline.com/word/churl

My vocabulary exceeds every poster on this forum ; )

[Reck]

My vocabulary exceeds every poster on this forum ; )

Too bad you're math is shit though. :lmao

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1062135481448742912

Net gain of about 7-8k.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1062135481448742912

Net gain of about 7-8k.

I wish they'd say how many votes are left to count. Articles have been saying 260,000 for days now.

[Reck]

I wish they'd say how many votes are left to count. Articles have been saying 260,000 for days now.

It's gotta be less than 200k by now. They actually released two batches of votes today.

EDIT: Found freshed newly posted article.


The Arizona Republic estimates there are about 170,000 votes still to be counted. McSally would have to win those by nearly 23 percentage points to retake the lead.
Even worse, 95 percent of the uncounted votes are in Maricopa and Pima counties, the two places where she has underperformed.



https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/12/martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-race-how-arizona-voted-senate-race/1981442002/

McSally is getting whooped in places where she was supposed to do well. The fact that there are still votes left in Maricopa and Sinema's home county Pima should be game over.

[boutons_deux]

lynching jokes.

it's Mississippi, lynching sentiment is politically correct, as are incest, pedophilia,

[baseline bum]

It's gotta be less than 200k by now. They actually released two batches of votes today.

EDIT: Found freshed newly posted article.



https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/12/martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-race-how-arizona-voted-senate-race/1981442002/

McSally is getting whooped in places where she was supposed to do well. The fact that there are still votes left in Maricopa and Sinema's home county Pima should be game over.

Thanks for the update. No way a 38,000 vote lead with 170,000 left to count is game over though. Especially when there are very red parts of Maricopa.

[djohn2oo8]

1062143663835353089

[djohn2oo8]

1062145529088487424

[Reck]

1062143663835353089

First big news media outlet to call it. it's time, imo.

[ducks]

Lynching stopes crimes
So does
Firing squads

[Reck]

Thanks for the update. No way a 38,000 vote lead with 170,000 left to count is game over though. Especially when there are very red parts of Maricopa.

McSally concedes.

https://twitter.com/MarthaMcSally/status/1062144676822577152

[Spurs Homer]

Lynching stopes crimes
So does
Firing squads

Yes, a lot of blacks were lynched for the crime of "being black"

[Spurs Homer]

McSally concedes.

https://twitter.com/MarthaMcSally/status/1062144676822577152

Another flip!

:elephant

[Will Hunting]

Did anyone see Hyde-Smith’s press conference today? It couldn’t have been any worse, :lmao if this dumb bitch manages to hand team blue a senate seat in Mississippi.

[Trill Clinton]

Blue wave came through in the clutch

[ducks]

Yes, a lot of blacks were lynched for the crime of "being black"

Link

[ducks]

lol Arizona is working on recalling her already yes as allows that

[ducks]

Blue wave came through in the clutch

Fraud is clutch ?

Over 17 point swing from gov to McSally lossing

[Will Hunting]

lol Arizona is working on recalling her already yes as allows that
By Arizona do you mean a small group of fringe morons who probably live in some shithole rural area like Bullhead City?

[Pavlov]

lol Arizona is working on recalling her already yes as allows thatlol not for six months after she takes office

[Reck]

The Secretary of State race looks good too. I'm sure ducks is gonna want a recall on that too.

[ducks]

So to be cool and count you must live in big city ?

[Pavlov]

So to be cool and count you must live in big city ?Did you not count in this election, ducks?

[Will Hunting]

So to be cool and count you must live in big city ?
I didn’t say anything about a big city, I said rural Arizona is by and large a shithole. Plenty of other states that actually have beautiful rural areas.

[AaronY]

As long as we are here talking about the Arizona Senate lets relive one of the great moments in AZ Senate history shall we?

https://i.imgur.com/zFnk6xb.gif

so clutch imo. I love the pause part right in the middle for effect..theres like that split second when you dont know what hes going to do that makes it so great tbh

[Will Hunting]

As long as we are here talking about the Arizona Senate lets relive one of the great moments in AZ Senate history shall we?

https://i.imgur.com/zFnk6xb.gif

so clutch imo. I love the pause part right in the middle for effect..theres like that split second when you dont know what hes going to do that makes it so great tbh
McConnells face is my favorite part :lmao

[Reck]

As long as we are here talking about the Arizona Senate lets relive one of the great moments in AZ Senate history shall we?

https://i.imgur.com/zFnk6xb.gif

so clutch imo. I love the pause part right in the middle for effect..theres like that split second when you dont know what hes going to do that makes it so great tbh

That lady in yellow looking both ways with a smirk aftewards while the turtle just stands there like a statue. :lol

[spurraider21]

As long as we are here talking about the Arizona Senate lets relive one of the great moments in AZ Senate history shall we?

https://i.imgur.com/zFnk6xb.gif

so clutch imo. I love the pause part right in the middle for effect..theres like that split second when you dont know what hes going to do that makes it so great tbh
the dude on the right nodding his head waiting for the vote :lol

[boutons_deux]

dog whistle to his racist voters

Republican loser sues newly elected Latina legislator, claiming she wasn't born in the US (she was) (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/12/1812343/-Republican-loser-sues-newly-elected-Latina-legislator-claiming-she-wasn-t-born-in-the-US-she-was)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/12/1812343/-Republican-loser-sues-newly-elected-Latina-legislator-claiming-she-wasn-t-born-in-the-US-she-was

[Winehole23]

Highest turnout for a midterm election in 104 years.

[ElNono]

As long as we are here talking about the Arizona Senate lets relive one of the great moments in AZ Senate history shall we?

https://i.imgur.com/zFnk6xb.gif

so clutch imo. I love the pause part right in the middle for effect..theres like that split second when you dont know what hes going to do that makes it so great tbh

American Hero doing American Hero things, tbh...

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/joseph-sohm-bald-eagle-and-american-flag_a-G-8667182-14258387.jpg

[AaronY]

American Hero doing American Hero things, tbh...

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/joseph-sohm-bald-eagle-and-american-flag_a-G-8667182-14258387.jpg
See thats what i thought!

Opinions differed on it tho of course


to bad he did not die then

McCain also said he would repeal the health care lie WRONG
he can not be trusted


Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla.:
"Senator John McCain exemplifies courage, civility, and integrity. He is a true American hero and our country is stronger because of his service. My prayers are with him and his family."




integrity my fucking ass said he would repeal health care DID NOT FUCKING TRAITOR

[boutons_deux]

Dems flipped 3 Atty General, while losing none

https://ballotpedia.org/Attorney_General_elections,_2018

[pgardn]

It was repeal and replace and the red team had the biggest bestest plan just waiting to be implemented per the orange Haze.

Both sides knew there were things that needed to be fixed . Now red team is ready to deal because they got pummeled on this issue . I guess this is the way it supposed to work . You have zero legislation to replace so you lie yet again

[boutons_deux]

American Hero doing American Hero things, tbh...

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/joseph-sohm-bald-eagle-and-american-flag_a-G-8667182-14258387.jpg

Repugs who aren't up for re-election have no risk of being primaried and/or out-financed by, eg, Kock Bros.

A Repug wants to stay in office? Then vote as dictated by the oligarchy.

McLiar, alive and then dead, had the additional "bravery" of vengeance against Pres Bone Spurs who doesn't like America POWs

[LkrFan]

1062102246027091976
H-town farmers covering up some BS. But here comes Mueller. :tu

[boutons_deux]

Now red team is ready to deal

Repugs don't deal, because they consider all opposition to be illegit. It's My Way, or the Obstruct Way.

Since Gingrich, Real Men don't compromise, which is weakness, admitting defeat.

anarchist Gingrich introduced the idea that Repugs enabling a Dem project to succeed would mean Dems would get all the credit, which is unacceptable.

So never support a Dem program, always obstruct, even if Repugs would pass the same program if they were in power.

Repugs don't have to deal on anything, because they are financed, protected, enabled by the oligarchy's $$$

Total obstruction, if not actual govt shutdown (Gingrich did it twice to Clinton), as we've seen since 2010, is acceptable to the Repugs, since the status quo is laughably rigged for the oligarchy.

[LkrFan]

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[djohn2oo8]

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H-town farmers covering up some BS. But here comes Mueller. :tu
Imagine something on Cruz.... :)

[Spurs Homer]

Imagine something on Cruz.... :)

Sounds about right that FOX news & Wikileaks are somehow involved.

Between Trump & FOX and Wiki - they are a huge part of destroying this country from the inside. Putin got his money's worth x10000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!

[LkrFan]

Imagine something on Cruz.... :)

Ding ding ding!! Man I hope so!!

[boutons_deux]

Putin got his money's worth x10000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!

As did OBL for a few $100K

[boutons_deux]

Trash Warns That Florida Recount Could Set Dangerous Precedent of Person with Most Votes Winning

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5bea07589eb94330e7b4817f/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-Trump-Florida.jpg

WASHINGTON —Calling for an “immediate end” to the recount in Florida, Donald J. Trump warned on Monday that it could set a dangerous precedent of the person with the most votes winning.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said that those in favor of the recount had a

“sick obsession with finding out which candidate got the most votes.”

“Democrats are going on and on about counting every last vote until they find out who got the most,” Trump said.

“Since when does getting the most votes mean you win?”

Trump said that, if the recounts are allowed to proceed,

“We could be looking at a very bad, very sad situation

where to be considered legitimately elected

you have to get more votes than the other candidate.”

Having just returned from the Armistice commemoration in Paris,

Trump said that Florida’s recount has made America “the laughingstock of the world,” adding,

“Putin told me they never do recounts in Russia.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-warns-that-florida-recount-could-set-dangerous-precedent-of-person-with-most-votes-winning

[Will Hunting]

I’m guessing that’s an article from The Onion?

[Winehole23]

Dark humor for sure. Delegitimating elections is no joke:


In a month (https://news.google.com/search?for=synagogue%20shooting&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) of harrowing (https://news.google.com/search?q=whitaker&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) news (https://news.google.com/search?q=borderline%20shooting&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen), this development is still almost incalculably bad for American democracy. I now assume that a substantial minority of Americans believe that the results of the elections in Florida, Georgia, Arizona, and California are democratically illegitimate unless the Republican candidate wins. Updating the lessons from the previous post,



When electoral procedures lose popular legitimacy, it is nearly impossible to get that legitimacy back. Elections are one great way of building popular legitimacy, and if by assumption they no longer do, what will?
Non-electoral sources of power are particularly dangerous when elections no longer legitimately empower politicians. It now falls to the very politicians who are involved in the recount to vouch for its legitimacy. The safest way to defend that legitimacy would be for the losing candidates to rebuke the President, directly and publicly. A public endorsement would be most meaningful if it were to come from, for example, DeSantis. Let us just ponder how likely that is.
The downstream consequences from the loss of electoral legitimacy are nearly impossible to predict. I suspect that one consequence will be an ever-greater tolerance for executive malfeasance, on the logic that Congressional representatives and state governments lack democratic legitimacy.

https://tompepinsky.com/2018/11/12/what-happens-if-elections-are-no-longer-legitimate/

[Winehole23]

Perhaps more than anything that he has said through his campaign, Donald Trump’s charge that the upcoming presidential elections will be rigged have frightened political observers, and especially political scientists. The reason is that elite and public acceptance of electoral procedures is essential to democratic politics. Political scientists understand that the foundation of democratic political order is the acceptance of the rules of the game. The only way that we really know that losers accept those rules when they lose and respect the outcome. The politics of a losing presidential candidate rejecting the election itself is almost unimaginable. It would risk a crisis of systemic legitimacy.


But what would such politics look like, now that we must imagine it? American history is no great source of information. There is the case of the Civil War, which began when southern states seceded from the union. But this was a cleavage first and foremost over policy—slavery—and the political order that it required. And as such, the Civil War had a clear regional divide over that policy. Trump’s allegations about vote-rigging are not regionally defined, and they are not about specific policy. They are channeling mass dissatisfaction with the entire political system, refracted (as is often the case with Trump) through the candidate’s own self-obsessions. No state could, or would, secede from the union over Trump’s electoral defeat. The crisis of systemic legitimacy would be national, within the states, between supporters of Trump and his opponents.
https://tompepinsky.com/2016/08/03/what-does-it-look-like-when-citizens-dont-trust-elections/

[boutons_deux]

"Non-electoral sources of power are particularly dangerous"

The dominant source of power in America is wealth, the wealth of the oligarchy, not citizen voters.

People are so fucking LOST in the THEORY of democratic society, that they fail to see America is not a democracy, wasn't founded as a democracy, but as an oligarchy (wealth, slave-owning white men, excluding women, blacks, Indians,etc)

Of course, the oligarchy is amused that people are LOST in, especially distracted from the oligarchy's machinations, by the democracy myth.

[Will Hunting]

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Btw, it’s worth noting that McSally conceded much earlier than she really needed to and did so with class and dignity in spite of the fact that everyone else in close races is filing lawsuits and making accusations with no basis. Both political parties need more people like her.

[Spurminator]

I’m guessing that’s an article from The Onion?

No, The Onion is funny.

[boutons_deux]

Btw, it’s worth noting that McSally conceded much earlier than she really needed to and did so with class and dignity in spite of the fact that everyone else in close races is filing lawsuits and making accusations with no basis. Both political parties need more people like her.

McSally, having made all the right AZ Repug noises in the campaign, may have been told that she will replace Kyl, so she would still end up in the Senate anyway. soft landing

[Spurs Homer]

McSally, having made all the right AZ Repug noises in the campaign, may have been told that she will replace Kyl, so she would still end up in the Senate anyway. soft landing

yup- beat me to it!

[Winehole23]

Imagine something on Cruz.... :)plenty of smoke emanating from other places, tbh

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[Winehole23]

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[The Closer]

American Hero doing American Hero things, tbh...

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/joseph-sohm-bald-eagle-and-american-flag_a-G-8667182-14258387.jpg

You just triggered Chrissy so hard. :lol

[LkrFan]

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SMH

[Reck]

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SMH

Sounds like we need a legit election redo here.

[LkrFan]

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[RandomGuy]

Highest turnout for a midterm election in 104 years.

Some of the shifting political winds have made the GOP's gerrymandering obsolete.

Cool thing is that we ground level organizing Democrats here in Texas learned a LOT collectively, and now have another two years to prep for that contest. The GOP in this state already pretty much does what they can do, so they don't have as much room to improve as we do.

I have not seen any reduction in interest or energy on the part of my local group, who was part of flipping Hays county blue.

[boutons_deux]

Some of the shifting political winds have made the GOP's gerrymandering obsolete.

Cool thing is that we ground level organizing Democrats here in Texas learned a LOT collectively, and now have another two years to prep for that contest. The GOP in this state already pretty much does what they can do, so they don't have as much room to improve as we do.

I have not seen any reduction in interest or energy on the part of my local group, who was part of flipping Hays county blue.

congrats on flipping Hayes

Only 100+ counties to go before TX is blue.

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, counting fraud not obsolete, or ineffective.

partisan gerrymandering seems OK with oligarchy SCOTUS.

[Winehole23]

State Senator arrested for protesting GOP shenanigans in Georgia:

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[LkrFan]

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SMH

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKrrGpoiqSk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=Qr8WpidfE2AEPhu9%3A6

[AaronY]

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SMH
lmao so many honkies smh although that Gonzalez is the former Colt receiver and a hispanic

[LkrFan]

lmao so many honkies smh although that Gonzalez is the former Colt receiver and a hispanic

:lol

[Will Hunting]

lmao so many honkies smh although that Gonzalez is the former Colt receiver and a hispanic
:lmao Jesus Christ, that guy is a fucking congressman now?

[Chris]

lmao so many honkies smh although that Gonzalez is the former Colt receiver and a hispanic

^ another racist

[AaronY]

^ another racist
Nothing wrong with being white (Im Hungarian for christs sakes which is literally where hunky aka honky comes from) but dear god there are other races and genders than us white dudes and theres literally nothing wrong with them. Republican party might want to look into them and see about them. Maybe read a wikipedia page and acquaint themselves with other races and gender. its about time tbh

[AaronY]

And also the Dems probably wouldnt be so diverse if Republicans would just let a few minorities and women in lol. If youre not a white dude not much choice as to what party you have a shot of doing anything in

[RandomGuy]

And also the Dems probably wouldnt be so diverse if Republicans would just let a few minorities and women in lol. If youre not a white dude not much choice as to what party you have a shot of doing anything in

I think the time has passed when the Republican party can claim it doesn't have a strong racist streak and not be laughed at. That is why Chris is so eager to "you too" that word.

[AaronY]

I think the time has passed when the Republican party can claim it doesn't have a strong racist streak and not be laughed at. That is why Chris is so eager to "you too" that word.
Forget which far left guy you are but if youre the one who thinks the republicans are going to be extinct in a few years it would be pretty easy for them to rebrand themselves after a few election cycles/losses

[Fabbs]

https://i.etsystatic.com/5943218/r/il/03119c/360344021/il_570xN.360344021_bqft.jpg

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1063131293234446343

Suddenly Susan Collins is shitting her pants. :lol

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1063131293234446343

Suddenly Susan Collins is shitting her pants. :lol
Collins’ seat would have been safe if not for her Kavanaugh vote.

[FrostKing]

I think the time has passed when the Republican party can claim it doesn't have a strong racist streak and not be laughed at. That is why Chris is so eager to "you too" that word.
Self-preservation is racist?

[spurraider21]

CA district 39 is currently 122 votes apart... Kim ahead of Cisneros

[Will Hunting]

CA district 39 is currently 122 votes apart... Kim ahead of Cisneros
Any idea how many are left to count?

[Reck]

Collins’ seat would have been safe if not for her Kavanaugh vote.

Maybe, maybe not.

Apparently she's the only remaining republican holding some kind of office in that state now. According to Madcow anyways.

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1063137090576310273

Those aren't good stats. Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

[spurraider21]

those choice ballots are cool because they help prevent 3rd party idiots from ruining races

[spurraider21]

Any idea how many are left to count?
not sure how many in that specific district, haven't seen a clear count on that.

CA counties periodically update the unprocessed ballot totals though... https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2018-general/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf?_ga=2.99109214.1547609778.1542312169-462062477.1542312169

39th district includes parts of LA/Orange/San Bernardino counties. its impossible to really narrow it down to a number from that list though

[Will Hunting]

those choice ballots are cool because they help prevent 3rd party idiots from ruining races
That and they allow people to vote 3rd party without wasting the vote altogether.

[Chris]

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[boutons_deux]

Texas state Republican who called ICE on pro-immigrantdemonstrators gets the boot (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/8/1811283/-Texas-state-Republican-who-called-ICE-on-pro-immigrant-demonstrators-gets-the-boot)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/609377/story_image/Screen_Shot_2018-11-08_at_11.43.16_AM.png?1541706235

Texas Republican state Rep. Matt Rinaldi, thenoted pendejo who responded to pro-immigrant demonstrators outraged about the state’s discriminatory “show me your papers” law by siccing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on them,

was given the boot by voters this week, the Texas Observer reports. (https://www.texasobserver.org/say-adios-to-matt-rinaldi-the-texas-lawmaker-who-called-ice-to-report-latino-protesters/)

“With all of the early vote in plus more than half of precincts reporting,

Rinaldi’s opponent Julie Johnson is up by 12 points.

The odds of Rinaldi coming back from that are virtually nil, so the Observer is calling it for Johnson.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/8/1811283/-Texas-state-Republican-who-called-ICE-on-pro-immigrant-demonstrators-gets-the-boot?detail=emailLL

[DarrinS]

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[Reck]

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Would have gone to a manual recount no matter what. But now the Broward county recount won’t even count. :lol Chris

[Reck]

Any idea how many are left to count?


not sure how many in that specific district, haven't seen a clear count on that.

CA counties periodically update the unprocessed ballot totals though... https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2018-general/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf?_ga=2.99109214.1547609778.1542312169-462062477.1542312169

39th district includes parts of LA/Orange/San Bernardino counties. its impossible to really narrow it down to a number from that list though

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1063236802285379584

[spurraider21]

pretty unexpected that those batch of OC votes benefitted cisneros. OC also turned on rohrabacher tho...

[Chris]

I wonder how many illegal votes for Cisneros? :reading

[spurraider21]

I wonder how many illegal votes for Cisneros? :reading
hopefully the president starts a commission on voter fraud tbh

[Chris]

hopefully the president starts a commission on voter fraud tbh

Probably should tbh sanctuary states and cities are prone to corruption.

[LkrFan]

Killa Cali 2016 vs 2018:
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No wonder David Dennison threatened to cut funding! :lol

[Will Hunting]

This Cindy Hyde-Smith bitch in Mississippi is now making jokes about how we should make it harder for college students to vote :lmao

:lmao Republicans

[Reck]

This Cindy Hyde-Smith bitch in Mississippi is now making jokes about how we should make it harder for college students to vote :lmao

:lmao Republicans

:cry it was just another joke.

[Winehole23]

voter suppression looks like the smart thing to do, if you're a Republican

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/greenhousenyt/status/1062891301878857728?s=19

https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/1062806703215992832?s=19

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/perrybaconjr/status/1063076005445799936?s=19

https://twitter.com/SamWangPhD/status/1063262902197604355?s=19

[Trill Clinton]

Trump said she lost but she's in the lead now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/politics/mia-love-utah-lead-trump/index.html