Official Trump administration bungling response to pandemic thread.

[Spurs Homer]

Then you do (right) first & I'll follow in like Billy-be-jiggered, but, you're going first and that's just the way it's gonna be.


OK

fair enough


we FOLLOW THE SCIENCE

and

CALL OUT trump when he plays politics while people die all around him


we do our DUTY

follow truth and call out lies and propaganda and misinformation


trump is the president and he needs to be accountable to 100% of americans and lead

not divide and worry about his goddamn electoral prospects


he wont

and you wont call him out

[Thread]

OK

fair enough


we FOLLOW THE SCIENCE

and

CALL OUT trump when he plays politics while people die all around him


we do our DUTY

follow truth and call out lies and propaganda and misinformation


trump is the president and he needs to be accountable to 100% of americans and lead

not divide and worry about his goddamn electoral prospects


he wont

and you wont call him out

Not true. You follow your own. A scientist gets on FOX and you call them everything but white men, then down with the sodomites they get cast.

Don't try and bs an old bs'er, Homer.

& you've called out Trump ever since he left Hillary dead in the ground. Never gave him a minute's peace because that's what you vowed to do:::The Resistance.

You want to clean your conscious over our Spurs Talk contingent who stand shoulder-to-shoulder.

Come on ahead, Homer. Come ta Pappy.

Signed,

- Pappy

[Winehole23]

shit is cray, and very fucked up

1251538798292467712The Trump Administration has been in essence blockading states by seizing PPE and tests, some of which are distrbuted to other states, some of which join the federal stockpile, and some of which go to Jared Kushner's list of preferred vendors to sell to the states.

Wrt PPE and testing materials, there seems to be a de facto state of war between the Trump Administration and US States.

[DMC]

The Trump Administration has been in essence blockading states by seizing PPE and tests, some of which are distrbuted to other states, some of which join the federal stockpile, and some of which go to Jared Kushner's list of preferred vendors to sell to the states.

Wrt PPE and testing materials, there seems to be a de facto state of war between the Trump Administration and US States.
One one hand, you criticize the president for doing nothing, then when he does something you comment that he should leave it to the states. Look at NY. How did that work out?

[Winehole23]

One one hand, you criticize the president for doing nothing, then when he does something you comment that he should leave it to the states. Look at NY. How did that work out?God, you're.dense.

It's disingenuous for the President to claim on the one hand that states are on their own wrt medical supplies, then to seize their shipments.

[Winehole23]

If seizing supplies is part if the plan, the states should be notified, so they don't waste time and money on stuff Trump is just going to take away from them anyway. It's terrible project management.

[DMC]

God, you're.dense.

It's disingenuous for the President to claim on the one hand that states are on their own wrt medical supplies, then to seize their shipments.

A FEMA spokeswoman denied seizing any states' shipments, but told The Times that "prioritizing PPE deliveries to COVID hot spots can have the unintended consequence of disrupting the regular supply chain deliveries to other areas of the country."

States hoard as well. Texas has what, 300 or so deaths? NY has 20K (will have by the time I post this). Should Texas be able to get tons of PPE for backfill while NY is using garbage bags? This is where the feds come in and divert to FEMA for distribution.

Shit or get off the pot. Do you want states in charge of their own shit or the feds in charge of all states' shit?

[ChumpDumper]

A FEMA spokeswoman denied seizing any states' shipments, but told The Times that "prioritizing PPE deliveries to COVID hot spots can have the unintended consequence of disrupting the regular supply chain deliveries to other areas of the country."

States hoard as well. Texas has what, 300 or so deaths? NY has 20K (will have by the time I post this). Should Texas be able to get tons of PPE for backfill while NY is using garbage bags? This is where the feds come in and divert to FEMA for distribution.

Shit or get off the pot. Do you want states in charge of their own shit or the feds in charge of all states' shit?The feds didn't make that choice. They did one thing while saying another leading to enormous wastes of time and resources.

[ElNono]

Could have been making WHO tests since January like South Korea did. But what's the point of testing for a Democratic hoax? No one could have seen this coming to the US amirite?

:lol I remember TSA here spreading fake news that the WHO tests were unrealiable at the time.... looks like they worked out just fine for the rest of the world, SK included...

[DMC]

The feds didn't make that choice. Why should anyone else?

That doesn't make any sense.

[clambake]

they have to bid against each other and the fed, then they get the shaft, you miserable dishonest fat fuck

[ChumpDumper]

That doesn't make any sense.They did one thing while saying another leading to enormous wastes of time and resources.

[DMC]

If seizing supplies is part if the plan, the states should be notified, so they don't waste time and money on stuff Trump is just going to take away from them anyway. It's terrible project management.

So if I order masks from Amazon and they are "unavailable" because the feds are commandeering them all, was I wronged? Should I be able to have 15K N95s for my personal mental comfort? Isn't this a free country?

[Winehole23]

The feds didn't make that choice. Why should anyone else?Rather than discuss issues, DMC personalizes, makes it all about the posters. As usual.

[DMC]

they have to bid against each other and the fed, then they get the shaft, you miserable dishonest fat fuck

You have no idea what you're talking about toad.

[DMC]

God, you're.dense.

It's disingenuous for the President to claim on the one hand that states are on their own wrt medical supplies, then to seize their shipments.


Rather than discuss issues, DMC personalizes, makes it all about the posters. As usual.
:lol same page even

[Spurminator]

The sycophantry is just unreal sometimes. Imagine having your job depend on how often you praise your boss.

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[boutons_deux]

The sycophantry is just unreal sometimes. Imagine having your job depend on how often you praise your boss.

1251873771427966983

Kayleigh stands out, well beyond even L Graham.

Liar, racist, etc, etc. K checks all the boxes

[Winehole23]

:lol same page evenThanks for underscoring my point. :tu

[DMC]

The sycophantry is just unreal sometimes. Imagine having your job depend on how often you praise your boss.

1251873771427966983

Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?

[boutons_deux]

Dr Trash hypes useless shit, botches it all up

Hyped Malaria Pill Doesn’t Help Clear Coronavirus in Study

Hydroxychloroquine, the 65-year-old malaria drug that President Donald Trump has praised (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-14/trump-repeats-call-for-anti-malaria-drug-to-treat-coronavirus), appeared not to help patients get rid of the pathogen in a small study.

The pill didn’t help patients clear the virus better than standard care and was much more likely to cause side effects, according to a study of 150 hospitalized patients by doctors at 16 centers in China.

The drug did help alleviate some clinical symptoms of Covid-19, however, and

the patients who took it showed a greater drop in C-reactive protein, a measure of inflammation.

“This study doesn’t show any signal,

so it is probably unlikely that it will be of clinical benefit.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-15/hyped-malaria-pill-doesn-t-help-clear-coronavirus-in-study (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-15/hyped-malaria-pill-doesn-t-help-clear-coronavirus-in-study)

It an anti-inflammatory, big deal. So are lots of other OTC drugs, like aspirin.

It's not an anti-viral

[DMC]

Dr Trash hypes useless shit, botches it all up

Hyped Malaria Pill Doesn’t Help Clear Coronavirus in Study

Hydroxychloroquine, the 65-year-old malaria drug that President Donald Trump has praised (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-14/trump-repeats-call-for-anti-malaria-drug-to-treat-coronavirus), appeared not to help patients get rid of the pathogen in a small study.

The pill didn’t help patients clear the virus better than standard care and was much more likely to cause side effects, according to a study of 150 hospitalized patients by doctors at 16 centers in China.

The drug did help alleviate some clinical symptoms of Covid-19, however, and

the patients who took it showed a greater drop in C-reactive protein, a measure of inflammation.

“This study doesn’t show any signal,

so it is probably unlikely that it will be of clinical benefit.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-15/hyped-malaria-pill-doesn-t-help-clear-coronavirus-in-study (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-15/hyped-malaria-pill-doesn-t-help-clear-coronavirus-in-study)

It an anti-inflammatory, big deal. So are lots of other OTC drugs, like aspirin.

It's not an anti-viral



Believing anything out of that shithole country :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trash inciting his cult mob to attack blue states and go back to work

Majority Fear U.S. Coronavirus Restrictions Will Be Lifted Too Quickly


The poll, which was released Sunday,

shows 58 percent of registered voters (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6842659-200203-NBCWSJ-April-Poll-4-19-20-Release.html) are most concerned the country could move too quickly on lifting the restrictions that were put in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus.

In contrast, 32 percent said they were worried about the economic impact of waiting too long to get things moving again.

The split along partisan lines is pretty stark,

with 77 percent of Democrats and

only 39 percent of Republicans saying they were concerned about reopening too quickly.

Only 19 percent of Democrats said they were more worried about

the economic impact, compared to 48 percent of Republicans.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/poll-majority-fear-coronavirus-restrictions-lifted-quickly.html

more proof of the inhumanity and venality of Repugs: money over people

[Winehole23]

South Korea reported their first case the same day the US did. Their benchmark for competence and urgency shows how far off the mark our own government is.

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[Winehole23]

Shithole countries?

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[Winehole23]

Capitalist bread lines?

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/04/these-photos-show-the-staggering-food-bank-lines-across-america/

[RandomGuy]

Illinois' governor organized secret flights to bring masks and gloves from China out of fear Trump would seize them


Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker organized secret flights bringing millions of masks and gloves to the state from China on charter jets in an effort to bypass potential Trump administration efforts to seize the products, The Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Two invoices from the state revealed $888,275 purchases for "aircraft charter flight to Shanghai, China for COVID-19 response," according to the newspaper.

The state has reportedly spent $174 million on coronavirus-related purchases, such as ventilators, personal protective equipment, and hand sanitizer.

The Sun-Times cited a source familiar with the purchases, who said the details were kept secret "because we've heard reports of Trump trying to take PPE in China and when it gets to the United States."

Pritzker's press secretary declined to give the newspapers details on the flights, but noted the "challenges" Illinois has faced to obtain PPE for frontline health care workers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/illinois-reportedly-organized-secret-flights-bringing-masks-from-china-2020-4

[RandomGuy]

Capitalist bread lines?

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/04/these-photos-show-the-staggering-food-bank-lines-across-america/

Sort of up-ends the "we don't need government, private charity can do it all" argument.

[RandomGuy]

A FEMA spokeswoman denied

Stop right there.

Would the FEMA spokesman know about every case if hey did?

Would the FEMA spokesman admit if they did know?

[RandomGuy]

A FEMA spokeswoman denied seizing any states' shipments, but told The Times that "prioritizing PPE deliveries to COVID hot spots can have the unintended consequence of disrupting the regular supply chain deliveries to other areas of the country."

States hoard as well. Texas has what, 300 or so deaths? NY has 20K (will have by the time I post this). Should Texas be able to get tons of PPE for backfill while NY is using garbage bags? This is where the feds come in and divert to FEMA for distribution.

Shit or get off the pot. Do you want states in charge of their own shit or the feds in charge of all states' shit?

So... you are saying the federal government should have nationalized the supply chain, to avoid things like that?

I agree.

Too bad that hasn't happened.

[boutons_deux]

Sort of up-ends the "we don't need government, private charity can do it all" argument.

that was Repugs message under shrub/dickhead. churches should do the charity work, not the govt because govt's "tax expenditures" for the oligarchy

[boutons_deux]

"Trump’s enforcer, Attorney General Bill Barr (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-leaving-some-justice-department-staff-hanging-on-if-they-get-paid-leave-or-flexible-work/), is now poised to support Trump’s call for insurrection

by turning to the federal courts—

seeded :lol CORRUPTED! :lol with a legion of newly installed right-wing jurists—

to undermine critical public health protections on his boss’ behalf,” the Beast’s David Lurie wrote. “

If Barr and Trump get their way,

the states will soon be ‘opened up”’to the virus, and

thus to a massive number of needless deaths.” "

Barr already announced on Fox News that he would start scrutinizing actions taken by the states after April 30

Barr, as well as many of the judges Trump has placed on the bench, will enthusiastically comply with the new call to

undertake an offensive against states’ emergency health measures,”

“The spectacle of having judges second-guessing the determinations of state health professionals serves

Barr’s and Trump’s broader goal:

to undermine the legitimacy and authority of governors, some of them Democrats in swing states,

who have received far more robust public support for their effective responses to the pandemic than has Trump for his catastrophically late efforts.”

“Barr’s efforts now to undermine the authority of governors is of a piece with

his past work undermining the legitimacy of his own Justice Department,

as well as the nation’s intelligence community and diplomatic corps,

to help Trump escape the consequences of his criminal conduct

the attorney general’s latest effort to misuse the authority of the law, and of the federal courts, to help Trump out of a political jam is likely to have more immediate, and fatal, consequences.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344)

==============

Barr Is Doing the Dirty Work as Trump Gambles With Our Lives

https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures (https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures)

[boutons_deux]

Looney Gohmert answers the call to War on Sanity

GOP’s Louie Gohmert busted for hyping nonexistent ‘magic powder’ that purportedly kills COVID-19 instantly

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/gops-louie-gohmert-busted-for-hyping-nonexistent-magic-powder-that-purportedly-kills-covid-19-instantly/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

[boutons_deux]

Trash's toaides in FDA doing toadie work, sadistically fucking over, impoverishing Americans

Cruelty Is The Point

Amid pandemic, FDA seizes cheaper drugs from Canada

The Food and Drug Administration in the past month has

stepped up seizures of prescription drugs being sent to American customers from pharmacies in Canada and other countries

the latest crackdown is distressing many older customers whose goal is to stay home during the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/amid-pandemic-fda-seizes-cheaper-drugs-from-canada/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/amid-pandemic-fda-seizes-cheaper-drugs-from-canada/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344)

[Spurs Homer]

"Trump’s enforcer, Attorney General Bill Barr (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-leaving-some-justice-department-staff-hanging-on-if-they-get-paid-leave-or-flexible-work/), is now poised to support Trump’s call for insurrection

by turning to the federal courts—

seeded :lol CORRUPTED! :lol with a legion of newly installed right-wing jurists—

to undermine critical public health protections on his boss’ behalf,” the Beast’s David Lurie wrote. “

If Barr and Trump get their way,

the states will soon be ‘opened up”’to the virus, and

thus to a massive number of needless deaths.” "

Barr already announced on Fox News that he would start scrutinizing actions taken by the states after April 30

Barr, as well as many of the judges Trump has placed on the bench, will enthusiastically comply with the new call to

undertake an offensive against states’ emergency health measures,”

“The spectacle of having judges second-guessing the determinations of state health professionals serves

Barr’s and Trump’s broader goal:

to undermine the legitimacy and authority of governors, some of them Democrats in swing states,

who have received far more robust public support for their effective responses to the pandemic than has Trump for his catastrophically late efforts.”

“Barr’s efforts now to undermine the authority of governors is of a piece with

his past work undermining the legitimacy of his own Justice Department,

as well as the nation’s intelligence community and diplomatic corps,

to help Trump escape the consequences of his criminal conduct

the attorney general’s latest effort to misuse the authority of the law, and of the federal courts, to help Trump out of a political jam is likely to have more immediate, and fatal, consequences.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344)

==============

Barr Is Doing the Dirty Work as Trump Gambles With Our Lives

https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures (https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures)




This makes perfect sense...if:



Barr and Trump are WORKING FOR RUSSIA!!!!!

[DMC]

Stop right there.

Would the FEMA spokesman know about every case if hey did?

Would the FEMA spokesman admit if they did know?

You're asking me to speculate. What's the point of that? Confirmation bias based speculation is pointless. All I can go by is statements which is what you're doing with the accusations.

[DMC]

So... you are saying the federal government should have nationalized the supply chain, to avoid things like that?

I agree.

Too bad that hasn't happened.
This is the second iteration of you sidestepping the issue on the exact same post I made.

[boutons_deux]

The Lancet publishes blistering editorial criticizing Trump's COVID-19 response

"In hard-hit states such as New York, although hundreds of COVID-19 deaths are still occurring daily,

hospital admissions appear to have plateaued.

Credit might be due to effective physical distancing measures that limit community mobility.

But progress in preventing the spread of COVID-19 has come with economic havoc—

at least 17 million Americans are unemployed, a number that could ultimately surpass the Great Depression, and

take years to correct.

A new impasse is forming around the Trump administration's eagerness to boost the economy by lifting restrictions,

just as mitigation efforts by the states are yielding results.

The degree to which the USA stalled in taking aggressive action to curtail the spread of COVID-19 is directly the product of

an administration marked by consistently poor timing,

intent on making decisions in favour of economic interests

instead of those that are guided by science and to protect health.

The rush to reopen the country puts dollars over deaths.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/17/1938299/-The-Lancet-publishes-blistering-editorial-criticizing-Trump-s-feckless-COVID-19-response (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/17/1938299/-The-Lancet-publishes-blistering-editorial-criticizing-Trump-s-feckless-COVID-19-response)

Dear Lancet, welcome to Capitalist USA, where infinitiely amassing Capital is the supreme value,

with human and environment life destroyed for profit

[boutons_deux]

‘A lot of people love me’: :lol

Trump loses his temper when Yamiche Alcindor challenges his slow coronavirus response

Yamiche Alcindor asked President Donald Trump

whether his slow coronavirus response has led to more deaths

than there would have been.

Trump swiftly lost his temper and began hectoring her.

“A lot of people love me … to the best of my knowledge, I won,” said Trump. :lol :lol :lol

When asked about rallies he held in February and March, Trump lied,

“I don’t know anything about rallies.

I haven’t left the White House in months,

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-lot-of-people-love-me-trump-loses-his-temper-when-yamiche-alcindor-asked-if-his-slow-coronavirus-response/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Don The Con Trash, PVL FAILING so-called President, what a pathetic, unsympathetic piece of worthless shit

LIE, NOBODY loves you asshole, no friends, no nothing, and it's all your own sick fault

[RandomGuy]

This is the second iteration of you sidestepping the issue on the exact same post I made.

No Take McGurk is upset with sidestepping. :lol

[Winehole23]

FEMA seizes PPE from a distributor, lies about it and leaves it on a dock at JFK.


Once he got a lawyer involved, FEMA finally sent him something in writing, explaining his equipment was being held under the authority of the Defense Production Act.

He said his customers include nursing facilities, first responders and the state of Michigan.

In an emailed statement, FEMA reportedly told the Delaware News Journal that reports of the agency commandeering or rerouting supplies were “false.”

Such in-demand equipment “being distributed internally within the United States is not being seized,” FEMA reportedly said.

Gianforcaro, meanwhile, shared a written order with the newspaper in which FEMA directed Indutex to sell to the federal government “all filtering facepiece respirators, including the N95 respirators contained within shipment number 8994645378 that arrived at JFK Airport” on April 6.


The FEMA document also ordered Indutex to “set aside” all N95 or surgical masks that it acquires during the coronavirus emergency for a potential sale to FEMA.

It said the masks would be sent to the Strategic National Stockpile.

FEMA did not respond to follow-up questions about the paperwork, the newspaper reported.https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-delaware-company-says-fema-seized-mask-shipments-amid-coronavirus-20200421-3yz7dks53fbl7jlrjhuq2xokyu-story.html

[Spurminator]

Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?

No, not really like that at all.

[ChumpDumper]

Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?:lol we're bypassing Trump to get tests from Korea.

[Thread]

:lol we're bypassing Trump to get tests from Korea.

You'll need 350 million of 'em multiplied a goodly number of times. + the exact same # of beds/cradles & isolation rooms. & at some point you're going to have to have every one of those 350 rooms and beds/cradles occupied for the exact same 14 days period., 21 days to be on the safe side. You're gonna have to seal the border FOREVER and trust everyone on the other sides not to cross (Scouts honor) because there won't be any guards, they'll all be in their assigned isolation unit.

Chop/chop.

[ChumpDumper]

You'll need 350 million of 'em multiplied a goodly number of times. + the exact same # of beds/cradles & isolation rooms. & at some point you're going to have to have every one of those 350 rooms and beds/cradles occupied for the exact same 14 days period., 21 days to be on the safe side. You're gonna have to seal the border FOREVER and trust everyone on the other sides not to cross (Scouts honor) because there won't be any guards, they'll all be in their assigned isolation unit.

Chop/chop.I'd like to see how you figured these numbers.

Looks lifted from a Facebook post.

[DMC]

Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?

Sure, the Chinese and Koreans never heap false praise on their leaders... what was I thinking?

[Thread]

I'd like to see how you figured these numbers.

Looks lifted from a Facebook post.

You got 350 million Americans giveORtake + 20 million illegals. Anybody who is in country must be tested and then remanded to a 1 person isolation chamber/room for the duration. Once you get all 350 million people tested and isolated, you wait a week, test everybody again. Scour the countryside with forgeign troops to round up any American strays who've hid out like Anne Frank, or, CincQ/circa Patty Hearst. Test everyone one last time and start that big old clock top of the Sears Tower. 21 days later you turn everyone lose and watch 'em go.

Back in the high life again.

[ChumpDumper]

You got 350 million Americans giveORtake + 20 million illegals. Anybody who is in country must be tested and then remanded to a 1 person isolation chamber/room for the duration. Once you get all 350 million people tested and isolated, you wait a week, test everybody again. Scour the countryside with forgeign troops to round up any American strays who've hid out like Anne Frank, or, CincQ/circa Patty Hearst. Test everyone one last time and start that big old clock top of the Sears Tower. 21 days later you turn everyone lose and watch 'em go.

Back in the high life again.That's not how it works from what I've seen.

[vy65]

Several posters have criticized those raising the point about the feds seizing state orders of PPE -- even though Trump explicitly shirked responsibility onto the states. They've made that point, along with the same needling of MSM. All of which raises the question: Does anyone think the Trump administration is doing a good job handling the pandemic? If yes, what metric are you using to gauge his effectiveness? If no, what's the point of criticizing something that patently seems like a horrible and hypocritical "policy" decision.

[Thread]

That's not how it works from what I've seen.

...or, anyone else for that matter. But, you ain't gonna stop 'em from this testing horseshit. Even the old man can't stop it. "Fuck it, let 'em go. If I try and stop them I'll be worse off than letting it go. What the fuck else can I do, Eric, Junior?"

"Nothin' Pop."

Be like Wayne, mid way thru [The Searchers] "Us turnin' back don't mean nothin. We'll get 'em in the end, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth."

[ElNono]

Several posters have criticized those raising the point about the feds seizing state orders of PPE -- even though Trump explicitly shirked responsibility onto the states. They've made that point, along with the same needling of MSM. All of which raises the question: Does anyone think the Trump administration is doing a good job handling the pandemic? If yes, what metric are you using to gauge his effectiveness? If no, what's the point of criticizing something that patently seems like a horrible and hypocritical "policy" decision.

you sorta need to water this down into language for 5 years old with autism, otherwise you might miss your target audience...

[ChumpDumper]

...or, anyone else for that matter. But, you ain't gonna stop 'em from this testing horseshit.Oh it's not horseshit. It's been proven to work quite well in other places.

[vy65]

you sorta need to water this down into language for 5 years old with autism, otherwise you might miss your target audience...

Fair point. Also, that God of War rec was spot on. Thanks my nig :tu

[ElNono]

Fair point. Also, that God of War rec was spot on. Thanks my nig :tu

I have a bias, tbh, but GOAT game

[vy65]

I have a bias, tbh, but GOAT game

Not entirely sure how I feel about the ending, but you and everyone else at Santa Monica Studio's are doing the lord's work. GOW5 better deliver.

[Thread]

Oh it's not horseshit. It's been proven to work quite well in other places.

Impossible even with a reasonable facsimile of my goofy proposition.

It's a ploy, a political ploy to stall the old man, keep him from rehabilitation. Keep him away from what was and trap him in what is.

The tragedy? He knows it. I wish I could take that heartrending knowledge from him. Lift it from his mind, his heart and carry it till I couldn't caring it further, then pass it to the next (bullet taker.) We have a boundless supply of such Americans.

[ElNono]

Not entirely sure how I feel about the ending, but you and everyone else at Santa Monica Studio's are doing the lord's work. GOW5 better deliver.

Wasn't involved personally in that project, but I know the guys are top notch. Frankly, can't wait myself.

[ChumpDumper]

Impossible even with a reasonable facsimile of my goofy proposition.Fortunately it wouldn't have to be near your goofy proposition.

[Thread]

Fortunately it wouldn't have to be near your goofy proposition.

(near) would have as much chance as a snowball in hell. And we all know it. But, the old man lost the con and is at THEIR mercy and they got none and have never had it. He's like Jim Bowie in that squalid room at the end of "The Alamo" (Widmark OR Patric) matters not. Crockett sets his two pieces, cocks both, his namesake knife is at arm's length. Crockett returns to the ramparts. All that is left is Bowie and his black man servant. That's me.

The Dems, MSM, you Dumps, my fellows break thru the door, I cast my body across the old man, am slaughtered, cut to pieces and tossed aside, Bowie takes two with the pistols and buries his name sake in a third.

the old man

[pgardn]

(near) would have as much chance as a snowball in hell. And we all know it. But, the old man lost the con and is at THEIR mercy and they got none and have never had it. He's like Jim Bowie in that squalid room at the end of "The Alamo" (Widmark OR Patric) matters not. Crockett sets his two pieces, cocks both, his namesake knife is at arm's length. Crockett returns to the ramparts. All that is left is Bowie and his black man servant. That's me.

The Dems, MSM, you Dumps, my fellows break thru the door, I cast my body across the old man, am slaughtered, cut to pieces and tossed aside, Bowie takes two with the pistols and buries his name sake in a third.

the old man

You are putting on your maudlin threads...

Disrobe immediately.

[ChumpDumper]

(near) would have as much chance as a snowball in hell.The articles I've read tell me it should be about 3 times what it is now, which isn't impossible but Trump will drag his feet until the fall.

[baseline bum]

Fair point. Also, that God of War rec was spot on. Thanks my nig :tu

Damn, I thought you were of the XBox religion. If you liked God of War you might check Bloodborne too. God of War really seems like it took some inspiration from Bloodborne in its battle system. Though if you're looking for story, steer clear, Bloodborne is pretty minimal when it comes to story.

[baseline bum]

Not entirely sure how I feel about the ending, but you and everyone else at Santa Monica Studio's are doing the lord's work. GOW5 better deliver.

Santa Monica has been a killer studio for like 15 years now. No way the next GOW doesn't deliver.

[vy65]

Damn, I thought you were of the XBox religion. If you liked God of War you might check Bloodborne too. God of War really seems like it took some inspiration from Bloodborne in its battle system. Though if you're looking for story, steer clear, Bloodborne is pretty minimal when it comes to story.

Damn son, thanks. I've been slogging through Horizon Zero Dawn, and it's been a disappointment. Bloodborne seems more up my alley, so I'll give it a go next.

[baseline bum]

Damn son, thanks. I've been slogging through Horizon Zero Dawn, and it's been a disappointment. Bloodborne seems more up my alley, so I'll give it a go next.

If you do get Bloodborne, two critical things to know:

1. You must get at least one point of insight to be able to level your character up at all. I spent about five hours spinning my wheels in the game before getting that first point of insight and finally being able to progress since I didn't know I needed it. Easiest way to do it is to run to one of the bosses, who will likely kill you but you still get the insight.
2. The DLC is phenomenal and is a must if you're enjoying the game. Don't put off getting it until after you beat the base game though, since then you'll have to work your way to the DLC in a second playthrough.

If you liked the Sigrun fight in God of War I'm pretty confident you'll enjoy the Bloodborne DLC.

[baseline bum]

I have a bias, tbh, but GOAT game

So what are you liking recently, El? Not sure what I want to play after finishing Persona 5 Royal. My Japanese isn't good enough for Persona 5 Scramble as much as I want to play that shit. 国語が糞下手だよ

[Spurminator]

I'm ten years behind. Just finished Arkham City.

[baseline bum]

I'm ten years behind. Just finished Arkham City.

Don't feel bad, my most played game on Switch is Shinobi from 1987. :lol

[ElNono]

So what are you liking recently, El? Not sure what I want to play after finishing Persona 5 Royal. My Japanese isn't good enough for Persona 5 Scramble as much as I want to play that shit. 国語が糞下手だよ

Made a detour to play Doom Eternal, which was kick ass... now back on Nioh 2 and a game that will come out in a couple months.

[Winehole23]

Sure, the Chinese and Koreans never heap false praise on their leaders... what was I thinking?
Tombstones don't lie. South Korea diagnosed their first case the same day we did. They've had 10,700 cases and 240 deaths.

Are you familiar with the comparable figures for the US?

[Winehole23]

Despite the slapdash, chaotic federal response to the pandemic, one thing that's very encouraging in all this is what regular people are doing to help and protect each other.

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[boutons_deux]

Despite the slapdash, chaotic federal response to the pandemic, one thing that's very encouraging in all this is what regular people are doing to help and protect each other.

aka, socialism, where each person's welfare is assured and maintained because each person, along with the environment, is part of the commons

Publix efforts are wonderful, but unsustainable

[Winehole23]

Nassim Taleb featured in New Yorker:


Nassim Taleb is “irritated,” he told Bloomberg Television on March 31st, whenever the coronavirus pandemic is referred to as a “black swan,” the term he coined for an unpredictable, rare, catastrophic event, in his best-selling 2007 book of that title. “The Black Swan” was meant to explain why, in a networked world, we need to change business practices and social norms—not, as he recently told me, to provide “a cliché for any bad thing that surprises us.” Besides, the pandemic was wholly predictable—he, like Bill Gates, Laurie Garrett, and others, had predicted it—a white swan if ever there was one. “We issued our warning that, effectively, you should kill it in the egg,” Taleb told Bloomberg. Governments “did not want to spend pennies in January; now they are going to spend trillions.”

The warning that he referred to appeared in a January 26th paper that he co-authored with Joseph Norman and Yaneer Bar-Yam, when the virus was still mainly confined to China. The paper cautions that, owing to “increased connectivity,” the spread will be “nonlinear”—two key contributors to Taleb’s anxiety. For statisticians, “nonlinearity” describes events very much like a pandemic: an output disproportionate to known inputs (the structure and growth of pathogens, say), owing to both unknown and unknowable inputs (their incubation periods in humans, or random mutations), or eccentric interaction among various inputs (wet markets and airplane travel), or exponential growth (from networked human contact), or all three.

The New Yorker’s coronavirus news coverage and analysis are free for all readers.
“These are ruin problems,” the paper states, exposure to which “leads to a certain eventual extinction.” The authors call for “drastically pruning contact networks,” and other measures that we now associate with sheltering in place and social distancing. “Decision-makers must act swiftly,” the authors conclude, “and avoid the fallacy that to have an appropriate respect for uncertainty in the face of possible irreversible catastrophe amounts to ‘paranoia.’ ” (“Had we used masks then”—in late January—“we could have saved ourselves the stimulus,” Taleb told me.)https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-pandemic-isnt-a-black-swan-but-a-portent-of-a-more-fragile-global-system

[RandomGuy]

Several posters have criticized those raising the point about the feds seizing state orders of PPE -- even though Trump explicitly shirked responsibility onto the states. They've made that point, along with the same needling of MSM. All of which raises the question: Does anyone think the Trump administration is doing a good job handling the pandemic? If yes, what metric are you using to gauge his effectiveness? If no, what's the point of criticizing something that patently seems like a horrible and hypocritical "policy" decision.

The point is to get a good catalog.

At some point this will be all over, and we will need to get a true sense of what did, and didn't work.

It also forces die hards to keep defending the indefensible. At some point the truth will out even to them, whether they admit it or not.

[Winehole23]

aka, socialism, where each person's welfare is assured and maintained because each person, along with the environment, is part of the commons

Publix efforts are wonderful, but unsustainableI'm not familiar with that definition, where does it come from?

What I meant to desribe is prosociality.

[RandomGuy]

Fair point. Also, that God of War rec was spot on. Thanks my nig :tu

hmm. I think that will be next my game purchase too. Keep putting it off, but too many good things said about it.

[boutons_deux]

the pandemic was wholly predictable


The Trash C19 Pandemic was a man-made, not natural, catastrophe

[boutons_deux]

Trump shows a total inability to have empathy or remorse when confronted with consequences of his actions

“I interviewed someone who said that his family got sick, they went to a funeral in mid-March, and,

they said — mainly — because the president wasn’t taking it [the coronavirus] seriously,” she explained.

“He said: ‘If the president had had a mask on, if he was saying we should stay home, then I would have stayed home. Instead —'”



“Well, I know, I understand—” Trump said, trying to cut in, but Alcindor continued.

“He said his family members were sick because they listened to you,” she said.

“Do you feel like you, or are you concerned that downplaying the virus maybe got some people sick?”

“And a lot of people love Trump, right?” he said. :lol

Of course, from the account Alcindor gave, it seemed

the family in question may have been fans of the president themselves — at least until they got sick.

“A lot of people love me,” Trump continued. :lol

“You see them all the time, right?

I guess I’m here for a reason, you know?

To the best of my knowledge, I won.

And I think we’re gonna win again.

I think we’re going to win in a landslide.” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-shows-a-total-inability-to-have-empathy-remorse-when-confronted-with-the-consequences-of-his-actions/

[Winehole23]

One million masks seized in Florida:


Miami-Dade’s emergency arm was close to taking possession of 1 million N95 masks last week, but the shipment was “taken” by the federal government, WLRN reported.

Frank Rollason, Miami-Dade’s emergency director, described the shipment as “hijacked” by federal authorities during a desperate dash to secure medical-grade masks needed to protect first-responders and front-line workers from the spread of COVID-19.

“We were going to meet the plane and actually take them. That’s like gold, you know. But we got the word from the company that they had been taken from the federal government,” Frank Rollason, the director of Emergency Management for the county, told WLRN.https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article242224601.html

[baseline bum]

hmm. I think that will be next my game purchase too. Keep putting it off, but too many good things said about it.

It's not on PC though, you gotta get a PS4. It's worth it though, God of War is amazing. Not to mention other PS4 exclusives like Bloodborne, Persona 5 Royal, The Last of Us, etc.

[baseline bum]

This Trump presser is just amazing. He's constantly repeating we "must open the country up" and "the cure must not be worse than the problem" while the death toll and new case toll is spiking on an hourly basis.

The only rational sense this makes is that he knows he's heavily leveraged and going to be bankrupt before November.

What a country, 50,000 dead is less important than a seventh Trump bankruptcy to 30% of the population.

[ChumpDumper]

I await the dogged defense of this batshittery:

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[ChumpDumper]

:rollin
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[Spurs Homer]

:rollin
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WTF is wrong with you?

TSA can provide a Huber STUDY with graphs and data to show you that you are just suffering from TDS!!!!

You inject some sooopersekrit disinfectant developed in the caves of afghanistan right into the skin and rona is goooone!!!!!

[baseline bum]

:rollin
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Hello darkness, my old friend

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/94902132_10219290118821877_9062489524088602624_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=0hEhpfEvzdUAX_oAbbZ&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=06be7a9ad65821dba6d9b3961b9071e5&oe=5EC8C49F

[boutons_deux]

Kushner-backed program chartering flights to address hospital shortages raises questions in Congress

A flight from China chartered by the U.S. government (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pushes-economic-reopening-health-risks-key-questions/story?id=70186206) touched down at Chicago O’Hare International Airport on Wednesday last week. Inside were nearly 6 million surgical masks (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/300-us-hospitals-warn-supply-shortages-coronavirus-fight/story?id=70003733) and some respiratory equipment.

But the supplies on board weren’t tucked into the national stockpile (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-signed-defense-production-act-case/story?id=69670828) or distributed by the federal government among cities hardest hit by novel coronavirus (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Coronavirus) despite the average taxpayer bill of $750,000 to $800,000 per flight.

the masks and other life-saving equipment were owned by Medline, one of the nation’s largest privately held manufacturers and distributors of medical supplies. They were loaded onto cargo trucks and driven to the company’s warehouse in suburban Chicago.

It was up to Medline to decide who gets the protective gear and what price they would pay.

The sole federal requirement imposed on Medline was that it would promise to sell half its cargo to designated "hot spots" facing outbreaks of the coronavirus.

Medline says it is currently selling protective gear at a loss and isn't charging extra for the expedited processing. :lol

"All the product is ours, until it goes to our customers," :lol

part of a new unprecedented public-private partnership called "Project Airbridge,"

The program, championed by White House adviser Jared Kushner (https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/trump-administration) and run by Rear Adm. John Polowczyk,

Kushner told reporters this month that his mandate was to break down barriers for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is coordinating the federal response to novel coronavirus.

Democrats who question whether the federal government has gone too far in deferring to the industry amid a nationwide pandemic and given contractors an outsized role in controlling the nation’s supply chain.

"The supply chain was broken to begin with, and they’re putting these (materials) back into the supply chain with no idea where it’s going"

"We have literally wasted six weeks getting ourselves ramped up because we stood on the sidelines and allowed the private sector to manage itself instead of coming up with a centralized strategy,"

"I’m not here to disrupt a supply chain," Polowczyk told reporters earlier this month. :lol

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kushner-backed-program-charters-flights-medical-supplies-behalf/story?id=70291872 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kushner-backed-program-charters-flights-medical-supplies-behalf/story?id=70291872)

So Medline is losing money on stuff that was imported by taxpayers for $800K and then give FREE to Medline, which then loses money? :lol

The Corruption is UnPresidented.

[Spurs Homer]

50,000 body bags to commemorate this piece of shits fraudulent presidency.


.....and counting.

[RandomGuy]

I await the dogged defense of this batshittery:

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TSA? Dear leader's intelligence and sanity have been impugned. Get in here and carry some water.

I want a deflection from Trump saying we can try 'internal UV light' or 'injecting disinfectant', chop chop.

[RandomGuy]

:rollin
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That is what it looks like when a little piece of your soul dies.

[clambake]

today has real potential for some fun.

[Spurs Homer]

today has real potential for some fun.


unless you or a family member ends up in a body bag

[baseline bum]

unless you or a family member ends up in a body bag

Gonna end up there anyways with the president's new herd immunity strategy starting in a week

[boutons_deux]

Bungling starts the rotted fishhead Trash

‘Complete disbelief’:

Governors blindside front-line staff with abrupt reopening plans

without the input and against the wishes of their own medical and emergency management staff.

Georgia’s Republican governor, Brian Kemp ... without receiving guidance from the panel of doctors tapped to advise him and without giving advance notice to regional health departments responsible for carrying out his orders,

In Utah, the governor lifted a statewide lockdown on elective procedures before his medical supply team had finished estimating how quickly hospitals would exhaust their supply of personal protective equipment, according to members of the state’s response team.

plans to ease restrictions on economic activity and public assembly in Tennessee have been met by dread among emergency management officials, who are in “complete disbelief that we are reopening the state,”

Kemp, for example, did not seek consensus among the doctors on his task force before proceeding with his reopening plan

“I have great concerns about federal and some state pressure to reopen the economy without the guidance of the public-health data,” said Erin Mendenhall, the Democratic mayor of Salt Lake City. “No one doubts the gravity of this economic crisis, but the cost of human life is also grave.”

Trump administration’s guidelines are so vague as to sanction potentially any strategy, no matter how hasty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/complete-disbelief-governors-blindside-front-line-staff-with-abrupt-reopening-plans/2020/04/23/bb965f52-8567-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/complete-disbelief-governors-blindside-front-line-staff-with-abrupt-reopening-plans/2020/04/23/bb965f52-8567-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

[DMC]

today has real potential for some fun.

Did you make it out of bed?

[clambake]

Did you make it out of bed?

Have you found me yet, sea kow?

Imagine what’s attached to those hands lol

[DMC]

Have you found me yet, sea kow?

Imagine what’s attached to those hands lol

Find you? I flushed you earlier.

[clambake]

Find you? I flushed you earlier.

Post another pic, tubby

[DMC]

Post another pic, tubby

Come take one yourself if you want it.

[clambake]

What a fuck Up to show everyone how obese you are lol

Fattyx2 by now

Or 3 lol

[DMC]

What a fuck Up to show everyone how obese you are lol

Fattyx2 by now

Or 3 lol
Fortnite level shit talking. Are you chewing into your mic as well?

[clambake]

Too stupid To push away the plate, sea cow?

[clambake]

Fat fuck plays children’s games lol

[clambake]

Why don’t you put down your toys and find me, obesity?

[DMC]

Why don’t you put down your toys and find me, obesity?


ok, sometimes people are intimidated and afraid. i'll go first.


i think that trump is the best thing that coulda happened.

You wish you were that intimidating that I'd actually give 2 shits to care who you are. You can see above that you were glad Trump won.

Back to crumb snatching for you.

[DMC]

Too stupid To push away the plate, sea cow?


Fat fuck plays children’s games lol


Why don’t you put down your toys and find me, obesity?
:lol triggered

[clambake]

Your nightmare is stepping on a scale

[Winehole23]

Why does this keep happening?

This time to the VA.


For weeks, nurses and other employees at Veterans Affairs hospitals have said they were working with inadequate protective gear. VA officials denied it.

But in an interview, the physician in charge of the country’s largest health-care system acknowledged the shortage — and said masks and other supplies are being diverted for the national stockpile.

“I had 5 million masks incoming that disappeared,” said Richard Stone, executive in charge of the sprawling Veterans Health Administration. He acknowledged that he’s been forced to move to “austerity levels” at some hospitals.

Stone said the Federal Emergency Management Agency directed vendors with equipment on order from VA to instead send it to FEMA to replenish the government’s rapidly depleting emergency stockpile.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/va-health-chief-acknowledges-a-shortage-of-protective-gear-for-its-hospital-workers/2020/04/24/4c1bcd5e-84bf-11ea-ae26-989cfce1c7c7_story.html#click=https://t.co/PxLkCAvoEC

[pgardn]

Just listened to Birx on Meet The Press
Birx is a godsend.

Chuck Todd was trying to bait her into criticism.
This lady is concerned with the task.
She understands exactly how she can be helpful in HER SITUATION and she understands a great deal about all the nuances in different areas from testing, to the biology of the virus to the epidemiology. Other experts are going to get their spots to criticize and be seen. Birx knows she is dealing with an administration that sparks various grass roots nutty populist mobs (see Spurter and TGY) and so she sticks to what she can control. She explained very clearly where we have made breakthroughs, where we need to make breakthroughs, how the modeling is becoming more accurate, and new studies concerning the virus externally and internally that might indicate good or bad news. She has a very good overview of all aspects.

If we could just get Trumo to shut the f up and have her dealing more with governors on science issues and opening problems and solutions for various counties I would feel much better about this.

BTW she basically explained where the president went massively adrift in his disinfectant UV light shitshow without calling him out. Very deft move and now I understand more about him. He basically takes in pieces of info well, but then forgets what the parameters of the pieces are and applies them to the wrong situations.

We need to have someone literally gag this man because he just can’t do this science stuff, he just can’t.

[Winehole23]

Just listened to Birx on Meet The Press
Birx is a godsend.

Chuck Todd was trying to bait her into criticism.
This lady is concerned with the task.
She understands exactly how she can be helpful in HER SITUATION and she understands a great deal about all the nuances in different areas from testing, to the biology of the virus to the epidemiology. Other experts are going to get their spots to criticize and be seen. Birx knows she is dealing with an administration that sparks various grass roots nutty populist mobs (see Spurter and TGY) and so she sticks to what she can control. She explained very clearly where we have made breakthroughs, where we need to make breakthroughs, how the modeling is becoming more accurate, and new studies concerning the virus externally and internally that might indicate good or bad news. She has a very good overview of all aspects.

If we could just get Trumo to shut the f up and have her dealing more with governors on science issues and opening problems and solutions for various counties I would feel much better about this.

BTW she basically explained where the president went massively adrift in his disinfectant UV light shitshow without calling him out. Very deft move and now I understand more about him. He basically takes in pieces of info well, but then forgets what the parameters of the pieces are and applies them to the wrong situations.

We need to have someone literally gag this man because he just can’t do this science stuff, he just can’t.Somebody probably showed Trump some polls. The almost daily pressers haven't done him good. The presidential thing to do qould be to have them less often and delegate to public health officials. He can always filibuster on Twitter.

[Winehole23]

Just listened to Birx on Meet The Press
Birx is a godsend.

Chuck Todd was trying to bait her into criticism.
This lady is concerned with the task.
She understands exactly how she can be helpful in HER SITUATION and she understands a great deal about all the nuances in different areas from testing, to the biology of the virus to the epidemiology. Other experts are going to get their spots to criticize and be seen. Birx knows she is dealing with an administration that sparks various grass roots nutty populist mobs (see Spurter and TGY) and so she sticks to what she can control. She explained very clearly where we have made breakthroughs, where we need to make breakthroughs, how the modeling is becoming more accurate, and new studies concerning the virus externally and internally that might indicate good or bad news. She has a very good overview of all aspects.

If we could just get Trumo to shut the f up and have her dealing more with governors on science issues and opening problems and solutions for various counties I would feel much better about this.

BTW she basically explained where the president went massively adrift in his disinfectant UV light shitshow without calling him out. Very deft move and now I understand more about him. He basically takes in pieces of info well, but then forgets what the parameters of the pieces are and applies them to the wrong situations.

We need to have someone literally gag this man because he just can’t do this science stuff, he just can’t.Somebody probably showed Trump some polls. The almost daily pressers haven't done him good. The presidential thing to do would be to have them less often and delegate to public health officials. He can always filibuster on Twitter.

[pgardn]

Somebody probably showed Trump some polls. The almost daily pressers haven't done him good. The presidential thing to do would be to have them less often and delegate to public health officials. He can always filibuster on Twitter.

We need her.
Thats apparent.

She is doing a very difficult job well. She can avoid the politics and get right down to the problems and solutions to a fairly wide variety of problems. If you asked her about reopening restaurants she would go through the science of what she knows about how it spreads and then say that people who understand restaurant food preparation, spacing, etc... need to apply this is because I am not an expert on how restaurants operate as they appear to be diverse. Mayors who would like suggestions we have this set up for answering your questions concerning what might be safest practices.

(And I imagine it goes something like: serve outside with distancing rules and all sorts of suggestions concerning employees and food processing and preparation; which MIGHT make it ridiculous to even try it right now in certain localities or even most localities)

[picnroll]

Just listened to Birx on Meet The Press
Birx is a godsend.

Chuck Todd was trying to bait her into criticism.
This lady is concerned with the task.
She understands exactly how she can be helpful in HER SITUATION and she understands a great deal about all the nuances in different areas from testing, to the biology of the virus to the epidemiology. Other experts are going to get their spots to criticize and be seen. Birx knows she is dealing with an administration that sparks various grass roots nutty populist mobs (see Spurter and TGY) and so she sticks to what she can control. She explained very clearly where we have made breakthroughs, where we need to make breakthroughs, how the modeling is becoming more accurate, and new studies concerning the virus externally and internally that might indicate good or bad news. She has a very good overview of all aspects.

If we could just get Trumo to shut the f up and have her dealing more with governors on science issues and opening problems and solutions for various counties I would feel much better about this.

BTW she basically explained where the president went massively adrift in his disinfectant UV light shitshow without calling him out. Very deft move and now I understand more about him. He basically takes in pieces of info well, but then forgets what the parameters of the pieces are and applies them to the wrong situations.

We need to have someone literally gag this man because he just can’t do this science stuff, he just can’t.

WTF does that mean. A fucking 10 year old knows you don’t inject or drink Lysol without a panel of experts explaining it to him.

But I understand the game Birx has to play. Chances are in the end though Trash will end up throwing her under the bus in a twisted attempt to look better to his MAGATS like he does with most.

[pgardn]

WTF does that mean. A fucking 10 year old knows you don’t inject or drink Lysol without a panel of experts explaining it to him.

She explained they had a very encouraging recent briefing about the virus possibly becoming inactive very rapidly under UV light and some good news about disinfectant research EXTERNALLY.

My take is Trump took this info well and again went on a bad sales pitch, or just completely lost track of what situation it could be applied to. And of course a 10 yo old understands this but Birx understands him and has a horribly difficult job but is deft.

What we DO NOT WANT is for her to get as frustrated as we are and quit or get fired.
You don’t like Trump as president, I don’t like that Trump is president, can we solve a problem apolitically JUST BECAUSE IT MUST be solved?

Capeesh?

Think like you care about the country despite the leader.
Its not easy...?

[picnroll]

Capessh?

I think my post showed I exactly understand and I do care about the country which is why I’d rather have a lobotomized chimpanzee as a president than Trash.
Dr. Birx will have to be a flying Wollenda to hang in there with Trash. How long before she joins Fauci and we hear the “lock her up” chants?

[pgardn]

I think my post showed I exactly understand and I do care about the country which is why I’d rather have a lobotomized chimpanzee as a president than Trash.
Dr. Birx will have to be a flying Wollenda to hang in there with Trash. How long before she joins Fauci and we hear the “lock her up” chants?

Well She is willing to try and fly.
The point of my tl;dr post.

[elbamba1]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/coronavirus-patients-admitted-to-queens-nursing-home-with-body-bags/

Since March 25, the Queens nursing home has admitted 17 patients from hospitals who tested positive for coronavirus, but in a bitter irony, most of them have fared well, the exec said. Those who have died passed away without a test or while awaiting the results from one.
“The rest of the people are dropping like flies — literally like flies — and most of them have been with us for years,” the exec added.
COVID-19 has killed at least 3,540 residents of New York’s nursing homes and adult care facilities as of Wednesday, according to the most recent state Health Department data.

[Spurs Homer]

She explained they had a very encouraging recent briefing about the virus possibly becoming inactive very rapidly under UV light and some good news about disinfectant research EXTERNALLY.

My take is Trump took this info well and again went on a bad sales pitch, or just completely lost track of what situation it could be applied to. And of course a 10 yo old understands this but Birx understands him and has a horribly difficult job but is deft.

What we DO NOT WANT is for her to get as frustrated as we are and quit or get fired.
You don’t like Trump as president, I don’t like that Trump is president, can we solve a problem apolitically JUST BECAUSE IT MUST be solved?

Capeesh?

Think like you care about the country despite the leader.
Its not easy...?


she lost her credibility awhile back

today - she could have helped to clear herself or maybe even restore some of it by saying CLEARLY:

”there is zero confusion- disinfectant should NEVER be taken internally in ANY form”

period.

instead

she dicked around the edges and pussyfooted and even mentioned some “outer” study of sunlight and maybe the president thinks “out loud” line of fucking weak bullshit


because she values politics more than truth
more than american lives


she values her shitty position on a shit so-called task force who do nothing but “read data” while heroes are risking their actual lives


fuck that whore

[Splits]

Hello darkness, my old friend

1253659241434546176

[Spurtacular]

Oh, yeah, Obama left 12.5k dead-in-the-ground for His Flu. But, it wasn't an Election Year, & he wasn't White. So, it was fine & dandy.

I didn't even hear about this, bro.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't even hear about this, bro.Well, you're an incredibly ignorant person. Why are you surprised you never heard of any specific thing?

[pgardn]

she lost her credibility awhile back

today - she could have helped to clear herself or maybe even restore some of it by saying CLEARLY:

”there is zero confusion- disinfectant should NEVER be taken internally in ANY form”

period.

instead

she dicked around the edges and pussyfooted and even mentioned some “outer” study of sunlight and maybe the president thinks “out loud” line of fucking weak bullshit


because she values politics more than truth
more than american lives


she values her shitty position on a shit so-called task force who do nothing but “read data” while heroes are risking their actual lives


fuck that whore

You did not see the interview I’m talking about quite obviously as the UV studies she mentioned are indeed very much worth knowing. You are living back with the Trump speech where she had a panic attack as he was speaking.

yeah she’s a whore...
You need to join Team Trump incel movement possibly.
AND you don’t get it, she has said exactly what needed to be said without crossing Trump.
If you want her crossing him, and then getting fired, you think like a piece of celery.

So who is next up for you as a speaker in her place, Ivanka?
Just So she kills enough people that team blue gets in?
You basically are saying anyone who takes this position is a cult member, you have no clue how to work this president other than assassination. He is YOUR president, he has power. You just gonna dive on your sword and die?

Chickenshit.

This poster is the model of the blue team version of a Trumpeter.
”I don’t give a fck as long as I get revenge.”

We know he is exactly the wrong president for this type of event. So what are you going to do because he IS PRESIDENT?
Get the fckn job done as best you can.
Thats what you do.

[Spurs Homer]

You did not see the interview I’m talking about quite obviously as the UV studies she mentioned are indeed very much worth knowing. You are living back with the Trump speech where she had a panic attack as he was speaking.

yeah she’s a whore...
You need to join Team Trump incel movement possibly.
AND you don’t get it, she has said exactly what needed to be said without crossing Trump.
If you want her crossing him, and then getting fired, you think like a piece of celery.

So who is next up for you as a speaker in her place, Ivanka?
Just So she kills enough people that team blue gets in?
You basically are saying anyone who takes this position is a cult member, you have no clue how to work this president other than assassination. He is YOUR president, he has power. You just gonna dive on your sword and die?

Chickenshit.

This poster is the model of the blue team version of a Trumpeter.
”I don’t give a fck as long as I get revenge.”

We know he is exactly the wrong president for this type of event. So what are you going to do because he IS PRESIDENT?
Get the fckn job done as best you can.
Thats what you do.


this ^ weak complicit shit

is WHY we are where we are!

For 3 plus fucking years YOU came in here and were nothing but an apologist every time trump shit in your mouth

now 55000 dead americans later....

YOU want to be an apologist for the spineless pieces of shit surrounding this criminal incompetent murderer

this is why we are fucked

does your 5 year old dictate to YOU how to run your life?

I sure hope not- i sure hope when he does something untoward or improper or makes a child dictator demand- that you patiently TEACH him that his actions will NOT be tolerated.

BIrks is a fucking professional (or she used to be)

all she has to do is have integrity and tell the truth - trump or no trump
if he does something dangerous and she defends him, shields him, lies for him, whatever


she deems herself WORTHLESS!

all she had to say was “ you will have to ask thenpresident what he meant - as far as science - one should NEVER injest ANY dangerous chemical internally”

instead she went above and beyond and tried to paint the piece of shit infant in a nicer light

why?

because she is no longer credible.

3 years ago you repeatedly gave trump the benefit of the doubt
he shit in your mouth for 3 years and now 55000 are dead and you are still pussyfooting around with his stupid infant act.

[Spurs Homer]

Jake Tapper/CNN: “dr birks, what should the american people know about disinfectants and the human body?”

Correct and ONLY answer: “no human being should EVER ingest any disinfectant or any other dangerous chemical into their body.”

End of story - no one could have or would have blamed her or lost faith in her with this simple honest answer.

Instead her answer was: “blah semen-shield...blah...he was talking to the professional next to me...blah semen-shield..blah...important study...slurp...aerosolized virus...sunlight outside...blah-study-semen swallow- ....”


just a fucking alley-oop slam dunk served up to her by Tapper as she stood on a ladder in front of the rim...and the worthless dishonest cunt blew it...

[DarrinS]

Jake Tapper/CNN: “dr birks, what should the american people know about disinfectants and the human body?”

Correct and ONLY answer: “no human being should EVER ingest any disinfectant or any other dangerous chemical into their body.”

End of story - no one could have or would have blamed her or lost faith in her with this simple honest answer.

Instead her answer was: “blah semen-shield...blah...he was talking to the professional next to me...blah semen-shield..blah...important study...slurp...aerosolized virus...sunlight outside...blah-study-semen swallow- ....”


just a fucking alley-oop slam dunk served up to her by Tapper as she stood on a ladder in front of the rim...and the worthless dishonest cunt blew it...


:cry she didn't take the bait :cry

[Spurs Homer]

:cry she didn't take the bait :cry


the correct answer would have also been the “safe” answer

your cult daddy might have even approved

but she is nothing but a worthless cunt

like trump

[elbamba1]

Jake Tapper/CNN: “dr birks, what should the american people know about disinfectants and the human body?”

Correct and ONLY answer: “no human being should EVER ingest any disinfectant or any other dangerous chemical into their body.”

End of story - no one could have or would have blamed her or lost faith in her with this simple honest answer.

Instead her answer was: “blah semen-shield...blah...he was talking to the professional next to me...blah semen-shield..blah...important study...slurp...aerosolized virus...sunlight outside...blah-study-semen swallow- ....”


just a fucking alley-oop slam dunk served up to her by Tapper as she stood on a ladder in front of the rim...and the worthless dishonest cunt blew it...

Do you really believe that people are injecting bleach and Lysol into their bodies to fight the Coronavirus? Do you really believe that anyone heard Trump's comments and went out and did this? Lets use our brains for a minute here and agree that it was a stupid thing for Trump to say. It certainly belongs in the HOF for stupidest comments ever by a sitting president.

Lets also agree that it is equally stupid for anyone to think that someone heard those comments and thought, gee, i need to go drink some bleach. It is also stupid to think that anyone watching Jack Tapper or Meet the Press needs to hear Dr. Brix refute the comment. Lets all just appreciate the comment for what it is, an excellent subject for funny memes.

[Spurs Homer]

Do you really believe that people are injecting bleach and Lysol into their bodies to fight the Coronavirus? Do you really believe that anyone heard Trump's comments and went out and did this? Lets use our brains for a minute here and agree that it was a stupid thing for Trump to say. It certainly belongs in the HOF for stupidest comments ever by a sitting president.

Lets also agree that it is equally stupid for anyone to think that someone heard those comments and thought, gee, i need to go drink some bleach. It is also stupid to think that anyone watching Jack Tapper or Meet the Press needs to hear Dr. Brix refute the comment. Lets all just appreciate the comment for what it is, an excellent subject for funny memes.


the “topic” was

dr birx’s credibility

it is gone



ask the relatives of the dead people who asked for chloroquine and died

if there are any people who would take something trump recommended.

[baseline bum]

the “topic” was

dr birx’s credibility

it is gone



ask the relatives of the dead people who asked for chloroquine and died

if there are any people who would take something trump recommended.

If she gets fired she gets replaced by some hard right fuck who will just echo whatever bullshit comes out of Trump's mouth. Chloroquine is still a drug in trials that doctors have been hopeful about, Trump didn't invent the shit.

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWjUraLXsAArKCX?format=png&name=900x900

happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you...

[boutons_deux]

psychopath Trash is one-man toxic shit storm shitting on govt and America, with 40% approval, and Vlad gives a standing ovation.

“Right now, everyone is so confused by all the conflicting messages that,

each time the guidance evolves,

fewer and fewer people might follow it,” Besser, the former C.D.C. director, said.

“We’re going backward in our sophistication.”



Morale at the C.D.C. has plummeted.

“For all the responses that I was involved in,

there was always this feeling of camaraderie,

that you were part of something bigger than yourself,” another former high-ranking C.D.C. official told me.

“Now everyone I talk to is so dispirited.

They’re working sixteen-hour days, but they feel ignored.

I’ve never seen so many people so frustrated and upset and sad.

We could have saved so many more lives.

We have the best public-health agency in the world, and

we know how to persuade people to do what they need to do.

Instead, we’re ignoring everything we’ve learned over the last century.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_042620&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_042620&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily)

[Spurs Homer]

If she gets fired she gets replaced by some hard right fuck who will just echo whatever bullshit comes out of Trump's mouth. Chloroquine is still a drug in trials that doctors have been hopeful about, Trump didn't invent the shit.


so?

she gets fired and keeps her integrity (not anymore for her)

let him bring in nothing but nazis - let history judge them

and trump peddled chloroquine along with fox news and now they stopped because it might be deadly


still his responsibility

[Thread]

psychopath Trash is one-man toxic shit storm shitting on govt and America, with 40% approval, and Vlad gives a standing ovation.

“Right now, everyone is so confused by all the conflicting messages that,

each time the guidance evolves,

fewer and fewer people might follow it,” Besser, the former C.D.C. director, said.

“We’re going backward in our sophistication.”



Morale at the C.D.C. has plummeted.

“For all the responses that I was involved in,

there was always this feeling of camaraderie,

that you were part of something bigger than yourself,” another former high-ranking C.D.C. official told me.

“Now everyone I talk to is so dispirited.

They’re working sixteen-hour days, but they feel ignored.

I’ve never seen so many people so frustrated and upset and sad.

We could have saved so many more lives.

We have the best public-health agency in the world, and

we know how to persuade people to do what they need to do.

Instead, we’re ignoring everything we’ve learned over the last century.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_042620&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_042620&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily)




CDC:::Another politicized agency.

[Thread]

If she gets fired she gets replaced by some hard right fuck who will just echo whatever bullshit comes out of Trump's mouth. Chloroquine is still a drug in trials that doctors have been hopeful about, Trump didn't invent the shit.

She's got a humongous ass on her though. It's an ax handle wide, I betcha.

[Winehole23]

CDC:::Another politicized agency.Yeah, it's too bad Trump ran over it with an ideological steamroller and gagged the scientists.

[baseline bum]

so?

she gets fired and keeps her integrity (not anymore for her)

let him bring in nothing but nazis - let history judge them

and trump peddled chloroquine along with fox news and now they stopped because it might be deadly


still his responsibility

Yeah let him get more people killed so she can keep her integrity instead of at least having the ear of the shithead in charge.

[Thread]

Yeah, it's too bad Trump ran over it with an ideological steamroller and gagged the scientists.

A scientist that is politically motivated is worthless.

[Thread]

Yeah let him get more people killed so she can keep her integrity instead of at least having the ear of the shithead in charge.

Hush, she having the time of her life.

[boutons_deux]

WTF? another one? Jared and his frat rats still at it?

San Francisco mayor says city's PPE orders have been diverted, confiscated

San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) said Friday that her city’s orders for personal protection equipment (PPE) have been diverted to other U.S. cities and foreign countries.

“We’ve had issues of our orders being relocated by our suppliers in China,” she said at a press conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2573&v=G-RqQhnk_-k&feature=emb_logo). “For example,

we had isolation gowns on their way to San Francisco and they were diverted to France.
We’ve had situations when

things we’ve ordered that have gone through Customs were confiscated by FEMA to be diverted to other locations.

"Through Customs, we’ve had situations where those

items have been taken and put out on the market for the highest bidder,

putting cities against cities and states against states."

We have the money to purchase the PPE, why can’t we purchase the PPE?”


an avalanche of criticism from mayors and governors across the country who say the federal government needs to do a better job of making equipment accessible.

“You can't have the states competing against the states, and

then by the way, when the federal government goes out to buy the same equipment for their stockpile,

now it's 50 states competing against the states and the federal government competing against the states,”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494623-san-francisco-mayor-says-citys-ppe-orders-have-been-diverted-confiscated (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494623-san-francisco-mayor-says-citys-ppe-orders-have-been-diverted-confiscated)

[boutons_deux]

"Philips, I'd like you to do us a favor"

Super Negotiator Trump Pays Four Times Contracted Price For Ventilators, Not One Penny Less

in September, HHS signed a contract for Philips to make 10,000 of the things for the low, low cost (seriously, that's very low!) of just $3,280 per unit.

HHS announced Wednesday that it's signed a new contract with Philips to buy 43,000 ventilators from the company.

Not the inexpensive model developed at taxpayer expense, which has never gone into mass production, but instead the commercial variant, the Trilogy EV300, for which

HHS will pay more than $15,000 each, at a total cost of $646.7 million.

https://www.wonkette.com/super-negotiator-trump-pays-four-times-contracted-price-for-ventilators-not-one-penny-less (https://www.wonkette.com/super-negotiator-trump-pays-four-times-contracted-price-for-ventilators-not-one-penny-less)

[baseline bum]

"Philips, I'd like you to do us a favor"

Super Negotiator Trump Pays Four Times Contracted Price For Ventilators, Not One Penny Less

in September, HHS signed a contract for Philips to make 10,000 of the things for the low, low cost (seriously, that's very low!) of just $3,280 per unit.

HHS announced Wednesday that it's signed a new contract with Philips to buy 43,000 ventilators from the company.

Not the inexpensive model developed at taxpayer expense, which has never gone into mass production, but instead the commercial variant, the Trilogy EV300, for which

HHS will pay more than $15,000 each, at a total cost of $646.7 million.

https://www.wonkette.com/super-negotiator-trump-pays-four-times-contracted-price-for-ventilators-not-one-penny-less (https://www.wonkette.com/super-negotiator-trump-pays-four-times-contracted-price-for-ventilators-not-one-penny-less)




What a fucking shithole nation we live in. Trump tells everyone they're on their own, then comes and fucks them when they make their own preparations.

[picnroll]

The lead spokesperson should be a scientist. Dr. Richard Besser, a former acting C.D.C. director and an E.I.S. alumnus, explained to me, “If you have a politician on the stage, there’s a very real risk that half the nation is going to do the opposite of what they say.” During the H1N1 outbreak of 2009—which caused some twelve thousand American deaths, infections in every state, and seven hundred school closings—Besser and his successor at the C.D.C., Dr. Tom Frieden, gave more than a hundred press briefings. President Barack Obama spoke publicly about the outbreak only a few times, and generally limited himself to telling people to heed scientific experts and promising not to let politics distort the government’s response. “The Bush Administration did a good job of creating the infrastructure so that we can respond,” Obama said at the start of the pandemic, and then echoed the sohco by urging families, “Wash your hands when you shake hands. Cover your mouth when you cough. I know it sounds trivial, but it makes a huge difference.”At no time did Obama recommend particular medical treatments, nor did he forecast specifics about when the pandemic would end.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_042620&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily

Long but good article about the early response to the pandemic. Bottomline, anyone who voted for Trump should never be allowed to vote again.

[boutons_deux]

Long but good article about the early response to the pandemic. Bottomline, anyone who voted for Trump should never be allowed to vote again.

yep, excellent journalism.

Seattle vs NYC, why the different outcomes?

Seattle (and SF Bay Area counties) let the scientists, professionals, doctors decide,

while NYC got side-tracked, misguided by state and city politicians.

[Spurs Homer]

Yeah let him get more people killed so she can keep her integrity instead of at least having the ear of the shithead in charge.


she is worthless if she has no credibility

she already lost it

she can stay or go and she is saving zero lives anyway

[pgardn]

this ^ weak complicit shit

is WHY we are where we are!

For 3 plus fucking years YOU came in here and were nothing but an apologist every time trump shit in your mouth

now 55000 dead americans later....

YOU want to be an apologist for the spineless pieces of shit surrounding this criminal incompetent murderer

this is why we are fucked

does your 5 year old dictate to YOU how to run your life?

I sure hope not- i sure hope when he does something untoward or improper or makes a child dictator demand- that you patiently TEACH him that his actions will NOT be tolerated.

BIrks is a fucking professional (or she used to be)

all she has to do is have integrity and tell the truth - trump or no trump
if he does something dangerous and she defends him, shields him, lies for him, whatever


she deems herself WORTHLESS!

all she had to say was “ you will have to ask thenpresident what he meant - as far as science - one should NEVER injest ANY dangerous chemical internally”

instead she went above and beyond and tried to paint the piece of shit infant in a nicer light

why?

because she is no longer credible.

3 years ago you repeatedly gave trump the benefit of the doubt
he shit in your mouth for 3 years and now 55000 are dead and you are still pussyfooting around with his stupid infant act.

Im a Trump apologist...
Sure.

You are some sort of kamikaze pilot.
I dont like that game. If you were actually responsible for playing this game you would rather see people die.
So partisan you just want revenge however it comes.
Dont give me this shit about people dying, you dont give a fck.

Birx is a godsend for what we have to work with.
We needed someone exactly like her at this moment.

You just want people to line people up to get them fired while people die.

[baseline bum]

she is worthless if she has no credibility

she already lost it

she can stay or go and she is saving zero lives anyway

I don't think she's worthless. She just went and told everybody in the country that we're going to have to do social distancing through the summer after Pence tried to say this would be over by then. But you'd prefer a Hannity clone out there selling lies so you could point your finger and scream fuck you to the TV at the cost of American lives? smh

[pgardn]

Yeah let him get more people killed so she can keep her integrity instead of at least having the ear of the shithead in charge.


Its exactly why Trump went AGAINST a number of governors reopening too soon.
she has actually got him listening, albeit very poorly (not her fault) but people in here prefer Kushner or Pence?
We need her in place. Others are helping to taking care of the stupidity obvious stupidity.

[pgardn]

Hush, she having the time of her life.

Yeah.

It must be fun almost stroking out on National TV
I sure her friends and fellow scientists would just be delighted to be in that seat.

[baseline bum]

Yes sure.
Its exactly why Trump went AGAINST a number of governors reopening too soon.
Keep her integrity... she has actually got him listening, albeit very poorly (not her fault) but people in here prefer Kushner or Pence?
We need her in place. Others are doing fine taking care of the stupidity.

I genuinely think he wants the death count as high as possible to use against Trump in November. That's the only way his stance could make any logical sense and it's fucking sociopathic. I mean god I would love it if chloroquine turns out to be a cure, I could give a shit less if Trump could do six months of victory laps on the way to a landslide victory in November if it saves hundreds of thousands of American lives and turns the pandemic into something manageable.

[pgardn]

I genuinely think he wants the death count as high as possible to use against Trump in November. That's the only way his stance could make any logical sense and it's fucking sociopathic. I mean god I would love it if chloroquine turns out to be a cure, I could give a shit less if Trump could do six months of victory laps on the way to a landslide victory in November if it saves hundreds of thousands of American lives and turns the pandemic into something manageable.

I do to.

I think he was one of those psuedo liberal posters who changed their screen name.
The ones who used to wish torturous death on anyone who disagreed with them.
Cant remember their old names.

She may actually like Trump and be a staunch red team member. IDGAF as she is giving us the real scenario while the rest of the politically motivated crew spew nonsense. Im sure she wants to open up as bad as anyone else and it is a tough call on how to go about it. But at least she is letting us see the difficulties behind the multiple facets of this huge problem.

[picnroll]

yep, excellent journalism.

Seattle vs NYC, why the different outcomes?

Seattle (and SF Bay Area counties) let the scientists, professionals, doctors decide,

while NYC got side-tracked, misguided by state and city politicians.
I’m not sure you can hold NY entirely to blame for their situation relative to Seattle. They got hit through the backdoor, Europe, where people weren’t paying attention. They were thoroughly seeded before the first case came to attention, 400,000 people, a high percentage on international flights, per day come through Kennedy and Newark airports. From first case identified to lockdown they were the quickest of any state, things just exploded fast there. They have had one consistent spokesperson, Cuomo who has followed the health official game-plan with apparently cooperation of NYers far better than almost all other state. Id much prefer Cuomo leading the effort than the numb nuts politician we have innTexas.

[pgardn]

I’m not sure you can hold NY entirely to blame for their situation relative to Seattle. They got hit through the backdoor, Europe, where people weren’t paying attention. They were thoroughly seeded before the first case came to attention, 400,000 people, a high percentage on international flights, per day come through Kennedy and Newark airports. From first case identified to lockdown they were the quickest of any state, things just exploded fast there. They have had one consistent spokesperson, Cuomo who has followed the health official game-plan with apparently cooperation of NYers far better than almost all other state. Id much prefer Cuomo leading the effort than the numb nuts politician we have innTexas.

NY is a extraordinarily difficult problem.
Abbott would have killed people if he followed his buddy Dan Patrick down the hole.

[Thread]

Yeah.

It must be fun almost stroking out on National TV
I sure her friends and fellow scientists would just be delighted to be in that seat.

& you'd be absolutely correct. Telling the old man what he wants to hear, committing to memory every time he picks his nose, or, breaks wind, then excusing themselves and going into the WH can to jot down notes while they're parked on the shitter. Then wiping and stealing WH soap.

They're green with jealousy.

This is as good as it's gonna get for her and it will never get this good again. Sure, if Biden wins he'll invite her in, drag out to spite the old man, but, being on that stage with a somebody you ain't trying to stab in the back is small potatoes compared to being on the stage with public enemy #1 who you hate with a passion.

[Spurs Homer]

I genuinely think he wants the death count as high as possible to use against Trump in November. That's the only way his stance could make any logical sense and it's fucking sociopathic. I mean god I would love it if chloroquine turns out to be a cure, I could give a shit less if Trump could do six months of victory laps on the way to a landslide victory in November if it saves hundreds of thousands of American lives and turns the pandemic into something manageable.


wrong

it works in the opposite way...

Any professional should be a true professional and this way - trump has no choice but to be exposed as someone who cannot retain professionals...

birx is ALREADY a political replacement...

Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases


was the original - and on Feb 25th - she warned the world - and trump got rid of her and replaced her with Pence and these shills


so all this bullshit of birx being a godsend is just wrong

that first lady did her duty- trump got rid of her and history will show that - that move caused thousands of deaths


birx should have kept her integrity

and the next person after her is responsible to keep their integrity, etc...


this business of being in fear of who trump might insert is just weak and reactionary cowardice

[picnroll]

Birx is healthcare’s sacrificial lamb thrown on the bonfire of Trump’s stupidity, straining to refrain from screaming or laughing hysterically.

[baseline bum]

this business of being in fear of who trump might insert is just weak and reactionary cowardice

OK in the real world I'd still like to have an adult in the room advising Trump rather than have him throw a fit and say fuck all the experts if she pisses him off when his instinct is to just not do anything and let the virus wash directly over all of us.

[ElNono]

OK in the real world I'd still like to have an adult in the room advising Trump rather than have him throw a fit and say fuck all the experts if she pisses him off when his instinct is to just not do anything and let the virus wash directly over all of us.

yeah, never underestimate this guy, tbh... he could name Jared or ducks as his next health expert...

[Spurs Homer]

OK in the real world I'd still like to have an adult in the room advising Trump rather than have him throw a fit and say fuck all the experts if she pisses him off when his instinct is to just not do anything and let the virus wash directly over all of us.

well - crazy as this sounds -

that is what this will eventually come down to - and ONLY THEN -

will the cult actually UNDERSTAND who they voted for -

it is NOT our job to save him -
to coddle him

to fear his bad choices

let him do what he has to do -


it is EVERY MAN/WOMAN/CHILD for themselves and that is how I have been looking at this life since 2016 -

you are misinformed if you think you can count on this current administration for anything and crazier if you believe ONE word they put out.

[baseline bum]

well - crazy as this sounds -

that is what this will eventually come down to - and ONLY THEN -

will the cult actually UNDERSTAND who they voted for -

it is NOT our job to save him -
to coddle him

to fear his bad choices

let him do what he has to do -


it is EVERY MAN/WOMAN/CHILD for themselves and that is how I have been looking at this life since 2016 -

you are misinformed if you think you can count on this current administration for anything and crazier if you believe ONE word they put out.

That's fucking retarded, his cult will never turn on him. He has killed 55,000 of us, what makes you think increasing that body count by 10x or 20x would change anything? You just want him to fire them so he can have one more really bad news cycle.

[Spurs Homer]

That's fucking retarded, his cult will never turn on him. He has killed 55,000 of us, what makes you think increasing that body count by 10x or 20x would change anything? You just want him to fire them so he can have one more really bad news cycle.

well

eventually he will kill the families of his cult -


THEN it will hit them and only then will they get it.

It is going to come down to it - mark my words -
there is zero chance he is voted out legally - he wont play fair - he will steal the election - and we are all going to be sitting here this november/december

scratching our heads as we wait for his inauguration and worrying about how in the world we are going to get him out of office.


I said it before - THIS WILL NOT END WELL -

so all your pussyfooting and trying to brace everytime someone on his staff defends him - is pointless.

He will do anything he has to do to avoid prosecution/prison -

leaving office

for trump

and for Russia -

is NOT an option.

[baseline bum]

well

eventually he will kill the families of his cult -


THEN it will hit them and only then will they get it.

It is going to come down to it - mark my words -
there is zero chance he is voted out legally - he wont play fair - he will steal the election - and we are all going to be sitting here this november/december

scratching our heads as we wait for his inauguration and worrying about how in the world we are going to get him out of office.


I said it before - THIS WILL NOT END WELL -

so all your pussyfooting and trying to brace everytime someone on his staff defends him - is pointless.

He will do anything he has to do to avoid prosecution/prison -

leaving office

for trump

and for Russia -

is NOT an option.

So you want Trump voters to die. Probably time to put you on ignore now.

[pgardn]

So you want Trump voters to die. Probably time to put you on ignore now.

He will wish you a painful death.
Be careful.

These fake "liberal" humanitarians make me sick.

[DarrinS]

That spurs homer kid is unhinged

[pgardn]

& you'd be absolutely correct. Telling the old man what he wants to hear, committing to memory every time he picks his nose, or, breaks wind, then excusing themselves and going into the WH can to jot down notes while they're parked on the shitter. Then wiping and stealing WH soap.

They're green with jealousy.

This is as good as it's gonna get for her and it will never get this good again. Sure, if Biden wins he'll invite her in, drag out to spite the old man, but, being on that stage with a somebody you ain't trying to stab in the back is small potatoes compared to being on the stage with public enemy #1 who you hate with a passion.

So the old man does not want to know how viruses work?
Yas see right now, thats NOT a good thing.

[boutons_deux]

Trash's OSHA loves how Trash's IRS is risking its employees, part of Repug HATING govt

Leaked memo reveals the IRS is telling employees to provide their own masks after ordering them back to work

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/leaked-memo-reveals-the-irs-is-telling-employees-to-provide-their-own-masks-after-ordering-them-back-to-work-report/

[Thread]

So the old man does not want to know how viruses work?
Yas see right now, thats NOT a good thing.

He can't get a straight fucking answer. And it'll stay dynamic until (they're) ready to call it a day. And we ain't there yet, not even close.

[Spurs Homer]

So you want Trump voters to die. Probably time to put you on ignore now.

i dont want anyone to die

You are missing the gravity of the oncoming disaster the longer trump is in office

[RandomGuy]

I’m not sure you can hold NY entirely to blame for their situation relative to Seattle. They got hit through the backdoor, Europe, where people weren’t paying attention. They were thoroughly seeded before the first case came to attention, 400,000 people, a high percentage on international flights, per day come through Kennedy and Newark airports. From first case identified to lockdown they were the quickest of any state, things just exploded fast there. They have had one consistent spokesperson, Cuomo who has followed the health official game-plan with apparently cooperation of NYers far better than almost all other state. Id much prefer Cuomo leading the effort than the numb nuts politician we have innTexas.

Pretty much.

They were a bit late in responding, and it cost them. Just as it does every where else.

This virus is an excellent reminder that reality will assert itself over ideology every time if that ideology demands a model of the universe that is not true.

[Winehole23]

New Zealand had its first COVID-19 diagnosis one month after the US.

Today it looks like they've ended community transmission..

1500 cases, 19 deaths.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52436658

[boutons_deux]

reality will assert itself over ideology every time if that ideology demands a model of the universe that is not true.

reality will assert itself over (political and religious) ideology every time

[LkrFan]

If/when the Senate turns Blue
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1254779837480177664?s=19

David Dennison = f:lolcked, Robert Mueller
https://media.giphy.com/media/yr7n0u3qzO9nG/200.gif

[MultiTroll]

birx is ALREADY a political replacement...

Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases


was the original - and on Feb 25th - she warned the world - and trump got rid of her and replaced her with Pence and these shills
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/biden-video-on-trump-silencing-expert/

[CosmicCowboy]

New Zealand had its first COVID-19 diagnosis one month after the US.

Today it looks like they've ended community transmission..

1500 cases, 19 deaths.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52436658

Makes it a little easier when you are an island with low population density and had a month to watch the rest of the world figure out how bad the boogievirus really was.

[boutons_deux]

a month to watch the rest of the world figure out how bad the boogievirus really was.

Trash was warned in Dec '18 by US military and Americans at WHO/Geneva about the epidemic in China.

Trash did nothing, other than praising Xi and exporting tons of US medical equipment, and LYING about the risk of C19 well after the Chinese disaster was known around the world.

His "ban" of China allowed 10Ks of Chinese into USA.

The Trash Pandemic will be burned into Trash's legacy as the worst, most dangerous, highest-body count President ever.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trash was warned in Dec '18 by US military and Americans at WHO/Geneva about the epidemic in China.

Trash did nothing, other than praising Xi and exporting tons of US medical equipment, and LYING about the risk of C19 well after the Chinese disaster was known around the world.

His "ban" of China allowed 10Ks of Chinese into USA.

The Trash Pandemic will be burned into Trash's legacy as the worst, most dangerous, highest-body count President ever.

The boukaki broken record of fake news.

[pgardn]

K
He can't get a straight fucking answer. And it'll stay dynamic until (they're) ready to call it a day. And we ain't there yet, not even close.

We know how viruses work.
They replicate inside our otherwise healthy cells.
This is why his internal use of disinfectants makes zero sense.

He has been told this.
He does not understand, so he needs to stfu.
This is not a con “art of the deal” business.

INSIDE CELLS, this is why you can’t hit your lungs with a hammer and expect the virus to die without killing yourself side effects.
Honest to god...

[pgardn]

After this, every student in public school must go through a section on viruses and immunity.
I know they are supposed to, but this must be stressed.

The lack of any sort of physical model to go by has rendered too large a % of our population not equipped for the world we live in. I do not believe this is beyond the capacity of ordinary people to understand.

[DMC]

After this, every student in public school must go through a section on viruses and immunity.
I know they are supposed to, but this must be stressed.

The lack of any sort of physical model to go by has rendered too large a % of our population not equipped for the world we live in. I do not believe this is beyond the capacity of ordinary people to understand.

What about gender studies and Kwanzaa?

[Winehole23]

After this, every student in public school must go through a section on viruses and immunity.
I know they are supposed to, but this must be stressed.

The lack of any sort of physical model to go by has rendered too large a % of our population not equipped for the world we live in. I do not believe this is beyond the capacity of ordinary people to understand.I thought everybody had to study some biology in. HS in Texas. Can people opt out?

The school I went to had a stand alone class on human health, but we were crazy that way. We took six years of math and six years of science from grades 9-12.

[Thread]

K

We know how viruses work.
They replicate inside our otherwise healthy cells.
This is why his internal use of disinfectants makes zero sense.

He has been told this.
He does not understand, so he needs to stfu.
This is not a con “art of the deal” business.

INSIDE CELLS, this is why you can’t hit your lungs with a hammer and expect the virus to die without killing yourself side effects.
Honest to god...

Don't you dare dismiss me with that condescending tone, peeg.

Now, don't you dare!

Throw him a lifeline, instead of a crown block attached to the lifeline. Haven't ya's extracted enough pounds of flesh? You've had him on the rotating spit long enough. He's done!

[pgardn]

What about gender studies and Kwanzaa?

if that equipped you for our world hope you got an A

[pgardn]

Don't you dare dismiss me with that condescending tone, peeg.

Now, don't you dare!

Throw him a lifeline, instead of a crown block attached to the lifeline. Haven't ya's extracted enough pounds of flesh? You've had him on the rotating spit long enough. He's done!

he’s skewered himself with his own vanity

apparently the last thing he wants is a lifeline, he just rather go down in fiery glory.
his kind of glory

[pgardn]

I thought everybody had to study some biology in. HS in Texas. Can people opt out?

The school I went to had a stand alone class on human health, but we were crazy that way. We took six years of math and six years of science from grades 9-12.

I don’t think so, but they may be able to opt out of human health?
can’t hurt getting a double dose of this stuff now

it may just be that in our age of communication people have just decided to go off the rails and forget that people who are quite capable have worked on this for their lifetime
everyone gets to be an expert
we all should be learning

[Thread]

he’s skewered himself with his own vanity

apparently the last thing he wants is a lifeline, he just rather go down in fiery glory.
his kind of glory

I'll suck those flames and blow them out my ass to protect & preserve that old man.

Try me. Strike that match!

[RandomGuy]

I thought everybody had to study some biology in. HS in Texas. Can people opt out?

The school I went to had a stand alone class on human health, but we were crazy that way. We took six years of math and six years of science from grades 9-12.

Biology is standard STAR tested and not optional.

Viruses though, tend to be some of the most abstract things that most students struggle with.

My guess is that last part will change next year.

[RandomGuy]

So you want Trump voters to die. Probably time to put you on ignore now.

I find it increasingly hard to have any empathy for the segment of the population that is that brainwashed.

If their ignorance leads them to pushing back against scientific based lock downs, wouldn't it simply be self defense? Akin to some idiot drilling a hole in the bottom of a lifeboat...

I have consistently seen the sentiment on the part of modern conservative that liberals are evil incarnate, and have personally had my death wished here and elsewhere for my views.

Still, I wish them not to die. At the same time, if they do, given the active threat that some of them pose, I am not going to waste much emotional energy mourning them, other than a sense of pity and outrage at a propaganda system that would be so harmful as to lead people to self-destructive behavior.

[RandomGuy]

I'll suck those flames and blow them out my ass to protect & preserve that old man.

Try me. Strike that match!

Drink that bleach-flavored kool-aid.

[Spurtacular]

If their ignorance leads them to pushing back against scientific based lock downs

If it's all indisputable, why did legislatures need to have the fuehrers do their jobs for them?

[boutons_deux]

Where Has Jared Kushner Gone in the Fight Against Coronavirus?


https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1587942298/200426-swin-banco-kushner-tease_xgttta


Over the past two weeks Kushner has been notably removed from coronavirus-related operations,

One official working in the White House said it was “unclear” exactly what he and his team had actually done over the last two weeks.

Another individual familiar with Kushner’s work said they hadn’t received updates from his team in “about a week.”

“He muddied up a process that was really not needing a fix,”

“What that does is disempower FEMA

because if at any moment Jared or one of his henchmen demand assets to be redistributed at their discretion,

FEMA’s planning gets disrupted.

I’ve never seen operations on something this scale being run out of the White House.

Usually it’s policy and communications that they handle… but

you would never run logistical operations out of the White House.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/where-has-jared-kushner-gone-in-the-fight-against-coronavirus?ref=home

[Winehole23]

Biology is standard STAR tested and not optional.

Viruses though, tend to be some of the most abstract things that most students struggle with.

My guess is that last part will change next year.The literary trope handed out in the mid 1980s was that viruses tested the definition of life. Unable to move, unable to replicate without a host cell. They do not eat or eliminate.


have no energy metabolism, they do not grow, they no waste products, they do not respond to stimuli, and they do not reproduce independently. In the view of biologists, they are not alive. Viruses consist of a central core of either DNA or RNA surrounded by a coating of protein.

[RandomGuy]

What about gender studies and Kwanzaa?

What about it gabe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g

[boutons_deux]

My guess is all the dead pastors voted the Trash so he would hurt people

after 3 years, the dead pastors had to be very stupid, religion?, to believe anything Trash says

Pastor thinks ‘mixed signals’ :lol :lol :lol from the White House are

to blame for more than 30 deaths of church leaders

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/pastor-thinks-mixed-signals-from-the-white-house-are-to-blame-for-more-than-30-deaths-of-church-leaders/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4414&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

‘mixed signals’?

how about 100% guaranteed USDA approved pure LIES?

"Trust in Allah, but Tie Your Camel"

[boutons_deux]

‘No consequences for negligence that kills’: McConnell wants corporate immunity from Covid-19 lawsuits

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is demanding that Congress use the next Covid-19 stimulus bill

to shield corporations from legal responsibility for workers who contract the novel coronavirus on the job,

throwing his support behind a proposal pushed (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/21/trump-says-hes-aiming-shield-corporations-legal-liability-workers-who-contract-covid) in recent weeks by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce :lol and other right-wing organizations. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/no-consequences-for-negligence-that-kills-mcconnell-wants-corporate-immunity-from-covid-19-lawsuits/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4414 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/no-consequences-for-negligence-that-kills-mcconnell-wants-corporate-immunity-from-covid-19-lawsuits/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4414)

So if you are ordered by back to work under threat of job loss, then get sick or die on the job, employer is not accountable.

Sounds fair

[boutons_deux]

His lips are moving, you know what that means

Trump lies about dire intel he received on virus —

and says most people thought it would blow over


said he would have to “check when the early warnings came.” :lol that's way too late, you sick fuck

daily intelligence briefs from this past January “traced the virus’s spread around the globe,

made clear that China was suppressing information about the contagion’s transmissibility and lethal toll, and

raised the prospect of dire political and economic consequences.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-lies-about-dire-intel-he-received-on-virus-and-says-most-people-thought-it-would-blow-over/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4414 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-lies-about-dire-intel-he-received-on-virus-and-says-most-people-thought-it-would-blow-over/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4414)

[Winehole23]

The biggest hotspots in SD/Minn/and Iowa have been meat packing plants. Coincidentally or not, these depend heavily on migrant labor.

1255191870520483840

[pgardn]

The literary trope handed out in the mid 1980s was that viruses tested the definition of life. Unable to move, unable to replicate without a host cell. They do not eat or eliminate.

Eukaryotic cells (everything alive other than bacteria), prokaryotic cells (bacteria), viruses (not cells)

Thats it. Only Eukaryotic cells can be multicellular. So multicellular (division of labor), unicellular (better be able to do it all on your own for your world; niche)

I dont think the above is that difficult. But RG's wife is a teacher so maybe he can tell us what a 9th or 10 th grader cant get.
Discuss the differences between them, and I dont believe this to be abstract at all unless abstract means you cannot see any of the above with a human eye except some giant Eukaryotic protists. If this is abstract, then chemistry must be horribly abstract.

A much more abstract subject imo would be discussing the mechanisms of Evolution in a biology class.
And yep they do go into it in a Biology book I found on the internet used by High Schools in Texas. But its really a list they likely dont understand except maybe natural selection.

[RandomGuy]

Trump to sign executive order to keep meat processing plants open under Defense Production Act

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-sign-executive-order-meat-processing-plants-open/story?id=70389089

Trump: the Dumbening continues its latest installment.

[RandomGuy]

The biggest hotspots in SD/Minn/and Iowa have been meat packing plants. Coincidentally or not, these depend heavily on migrant labor.

1255191870520483840

... and so we go. Can't have the hamberder supply threatened.

[ChumpDumper]

If they can get the workers PPE and have public health officials set up and monitor best practices for protection, I'll be OK with it. We all know that won't happen.

[RandomGuy]

If they can get the workers PPE and have public health officials set up and monitor best practices for protection, I'll be OK with it. We all know that won't happen.

Nope.

This will be how it spreads in rural areas.

Hopefully the workers will finally tell their employers to fuck right off.

Not really a booming economy if most of the country is one paycheck away from eviction.

[RandomGuy]

Leader of Coronavirus Task force visits a Corona patient.

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2020/04/932/524/pence-mayo-no-mask.jpg


:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Leader of Coronavirus Task force visits a Corona patient.

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2020/04/932/524/pence-mayo-no-mask.jpg


:lmao


Why did Nancy stop wearing her non-mask mask?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mf3z7hAGDM

[picnroll]

If they can get the workers PPE and have public health officials set up and monitor best practices for protection, I'll be OK with it. We all know that won't happen.

Moscow Mitch wants to put in legislation so employers can’t be sued for not providing the PPE that the Trash administration failed to secure.

[ChumpDumper]

Why did Nancy stop wearing her non-mask mask?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mf3z7hAGDM6 feet away from others.

Not in a hospital with COVID-19 patients and other vulnerable people.

You're really bead at this.

[boutons_deux]

the Trash Pandemic

President’s intelligence briefing book repeatedly cited virus threat

U.S. intelligence agencies issued warnings about the novel coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_1&itid=lk_inline_manual_1)

in more than a dozen classified briefings

prepared for President Trump in January and February, months during which he continued to play down the threat

For weeks, the PDB — as the report is known —

traced the virus’s spread around the globe,

made clear that China was suppressing information about the contagion’s transmissibility and lethal toll, and

raised the prospect of dire political and economic consequences.

the president, who routinely skips reading the PDB and

has at times shown little patience for even the oral summary he takes two or three times per week

part of a broader collection of worrisome signals that came during a period now regarded by many public health officials and other experts as

a squandered opportunity to contain the outbreak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/presidents-intelligence-briefing-book-repeatedly-cited-virus-threat/2020/04/27/ca66949a-8885-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html?utm_campaign=pw_acq_nat_04 2820_z&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acquisition (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/presidents-intelligence-briefing-book-repeatedly-cited-virus-threat/2020/04/27/ca66949a-8885-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html?utm_campaign=pw_acq_nat_04 2820_z&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acquisition)

the Trash Pandemic

[boutons_deux]

How Trump and His Team Covered Up the Coronavirus in Five Days

The president and senior officials manipulated Americans and played down the severity of the pandemic.

Over the last five days of February, President Trump and senior officials did something more sinister:

They engaged in a cover-up.

insight into how several members of the president’s team were willing to manipulate Americans even when so many lives were at stake.

the president wanted to fire (https://www.wsj.com/articles/health-chiefs-early-missteps-set-back-coronavirus-response-11587570514) the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s top expert on viral respiratory diseases, Dr. Nancy Messonnier, during this period helps put the pieces of the puzzle together.

What was her offense to the president?

Dr. Messonnier spoke (https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/cdc-expects-community-spread-of-coronavirus-as-top-official-warns-disruptions-could-be-severe/) frankly.

“We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” she said,

what she told her children that morning:

“We as a family ought to be preparing for significant disruption to our lives.”

At the time, senior officials knew the coronavirus was an extreme threat to Americans.

Thanks to information streaming in from U.S. intelligence agencies for months,

officials reportedly believed that a “cataclysmic (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273)” disease could infect 100 million Americans (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html) and discussed lockdown plans (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html).

The warnings were given to Mr. Trump

in his daily brief (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273) by the intelligence community;

in calls (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-intelligence-reports-from-january-and-february-warned-about-a-likely-pandemic/2020/03/20/299d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html) from Alex Azar, the secretary of health; and

in memos (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html) from his economic adviser Peter Navarro.

the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence

raised (https://apnews.com/da45eec432d6ff4cc9e0825531e454a6) the warning level inside the government to WATCHCON1,

concluding that the coronavirus was

imminently likely to develop into a full-blown pandemic.

But the White House did not want the American public to know.

the president’s top advisers took to the airwaves with a united purpose: to deny the truth.

Mr. Azar ... discussed Dr. Messonnier’s comments (https://www.c-span.org/video/?469708-1/hhs-officials-hold-news-conference-coronavirus).

“We’re trying to engage in radical transparency with the American public as we go through this,” :lol

But within 20 seconds of that statement, he uttered state propaganda.

“Thanks to the president and this team’s aggressive containment efforts,” he said, coronavirus “is contained.”

Larry Kudlow, ... in direct response to Dr. Messonnier’s comments, told (https://youtu.be/U5XiKVZJRuU) CNBC:

“We have contained this. I won’t say airtight, but pretty close to airtight.”

the president to lie (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/) to the public.

“You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.

That’s a pretty good job we’ve done,”

He and Mr. Azar would continue to make such assurances over the next two days

for five days, the president along with some of his closest senior officials disseminated an egregiously false message to Americans.

The messaging would continue well beyond those days

until the stark images of refrigerated morgue trucks and

spiked lines on colored graphs showed the escalating numbers of cases and dead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/opinion/coronavirus-trump-coverup.html

The Trump Pandemic

Trash and his mafiya have killed 10Ks of Americans.

Will they be punished?

[spurraider21]

Probably gonna pass 60K+ by August

Still have all the concentrations camps, prisons, rednecks, Westerners, Confederacy to go.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america


another story of some very lucky person who survived the ventilator stage. He's totally fucked up, probably in some ways permanently

https://therivardreport.com/9-days-on-a-ventilator-a-jackhammer-through-the-chest-sa-residents-coronavirus-recovery/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=health&mc_cid=9062995634&mc_eid=54a5432c74


Odds are pretty good it will pass 60k by the end of this month, let alone August. Some Republitard states are still not locked down, and many are chomping at the bit to kill people and re-open.


No, odds are not pretty good it will pass 60K by the end of this month. The shitty IHME model that already factored in social distancing and has been revised down constantly isn't even predicting that.
to borrow chump's shtick

Narrator: it passed 60k by the end of this month

[ChumpDumper]

to borrow chump's shtick

Narrator: it passed 60k by the end of this monthI vacillate between hearing those in Ron Howard's voice or Morgan Freeman's.

[Splits]

to borrow chump's shtick

Narrator: it passed 60k by the end of this month


If it doesn't hit 60k by end-April, it will be damn close. I'd bet on the over but minimum is 55k

[spurraider21]

I vacillate between hearing those in Ron Howard's voice or Morgan Freeman's.
i default to Attenborough

[Splits]

i default to Attenborough

Same.

Where's TSA to defend his bullshit?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol University
1255280562442588160

[baseline bum]

to borrow chump's shtick

Narrator: it passed 60k by the end of this month

But if you leave out New York...

[baseline bum]

to borrow chump's shtick

Narrator: it passed 60k by the end of this month

But if you leave out New York...

[ElNono]

No, odds are not pretty good it will pass 60K by the end of this month. The shitty IHME model that already factored in social distancing and has been revised down constantly isn't even predicting that.

Looks like the IHME model was shitty coz it lowballed the number...

[DMC]

But if you leave out New York...

The left doesn't mind leaving out the governor of NY.

[Splits]

Looks like the IHME model was shitty coz it lowballed the number...

lol I would love to see what other "models" he was looking at if this one was his most liberal

[TSA]

Same.

Where's TSA to defend his bullshit?

What's there to defend? At the time I made the comment deaths by probable covid were not being counted. And I don't bail these threads when my predictions don't pan out. I still haven't seen MannyIsGod since the three weeks passed and we weren't at 150K as he predicted.

[ChumpDumper]

What's there to defend? At the time I made the comment deaths by probable covid were not being counted. And I don't bail these threads when my predictions don't pan out. I still haven't seen MannyIsGod since the three weeks passed and we weren't at 150K as he predicted.:lmao three states are counting probable deaths.

[Splits]

What's there to defend? At the time I made the comment deaths by probable covid were not being counted. And I don't bail these threads when my predictions don't pan out. I still haven't seen MannyIsGod (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=76) since the three weeks passed and we weren't at 150K as he predicted.

Statistically irrelevant. How do you feel about the IHME model now?

[TSA]

Statistically irrelevant. How do you feel about the IHME model now?

:lol statistically irrelevant

"New York City, already a world epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, sharply increased its death toll by more than 3,700 victims on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.

The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more than 26,000."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

I still feel the IHME model is shit.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol statistically irrelevant

"New York City, already a world epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, sharply increased its death toll by more than 3,700 victims on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.

The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more than 26,000."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

I still feel the IHME model is shit.What's your favorite COVID-19 model? I'm keen to see others.

[Splits]

:lol statistically irrelevant

"New York City, already a world epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, sharply increased its death toll by more than 3,700 victims on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.

The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more than 26,000."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html)


If it doesn't hit 60k by end-April, it will be damn close. I'd bet on the over but minimum is 55k

Statistically irrelevant, like I said. We're at 61k right now with another day to report.


I still feel the IHME model is shit.

Well last time you thought they were on the high end of predictions. Are they still "shit" that way, or are they on the low end? Tune us all in to your research

[picnroll]

Union that represents Mayo Clinic workers says Pence's decision not to wear a mask 'insults the hard work and sacrifice of all health care workers'

https://www.businessinsider.com/union-for-mayo-clinic-worker-says-pences-no-mask-insulting-2020-4

Trash and his administration are all above any rules, regulations or requirements.

[DMC]

Union that represents Mayo Clinic workers says Pence's decision not to wear a mask 'insults the hard work and sacrifice of all health care workers'

https://www.businessinsider.com/union-for-mayo-clinic-worker-says-pences-no-mask-insulting-2020-4

Trash and his administration are all above any rules, regulations or requirements.

Tempest in a teapot

[MannyIsGod]

What's there to defend? At the time I made the comment deaths by probable covid were not being counted. And I don't bail these threads when my predictions don't pan out. I still haven't seen MannyIsGod (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=76) since the three weeks passed and we weren't at 150K as he predicted.

Bro you can look at my post history to see that other than the begining of COVID, I have barely posted here for years. Sorry I"m not here to feed your bullshit. Its funny you think I care about your opinion. My post was saying that Fauci was right to to say 100k was a good estimate because the doubling pace we were on showed that we were going to hit 150k by the end of the month.


We have about 2.5k deaths right now. Assuming a slow 4 day doubling time for deaths (I think it'll be faster), in ~3 weeks we hit 150k dead. Thats why Fauci's numbers seem appropriate.

Just ask yourself this, if I was making a prediction of 150k by the end of April, why the fuck would I think Fauci's numbers of 100k total seemed appropriate? How does that add up?

You really don't understand exponential growth which is why you think that the difference between ~60k and 150k at the end result of an exponential curve is a big difference. It's not, but all you see is the 90k difference. Its the matter of about 1 doubling, One of the biggest problems with how the American people perceive this is that they really don't understand how close we were to this being multiple times worse on the first wave much less how bad subsequent waves will be. This also means that if we had not fucked around for a month, or even just reacted a week or two earlier, this could have been multiple times less deadly. That means 30-40k could have been saved if the idiots in charge would have listened to the experts a week or two earlier. But no, they have dumb fucks like you rooting them on. Good job.

Look, if you want to give me an L, feel free my dude. Spike the ball, keep mentioning me every week so that when I eventually do log back into Spurstalk I'll have like 5 notifications from you again. Rent free as a motherfucker, TBH.

[Winehole23]

TSA never lets go of a grudge.

[boutons_deux]

Unemployment now 30M+

rents due 1 May?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1255854572678967298?s=19

Hypocritical whiteys. SMH

[LkrFan]

Unemployment now 30M+

rents due 1 May?

Don't forget, 61K COVID-19 deaths (and counting).

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1255854572678967298?s=19

Hypocritical whiteys. SMH


do you think obama would - even still be ALIVE -

if 61k dead- and obama strolled up to the podium and said “i take no responsibility”
and
”we have done a great job- it could have been a million or 2.2 million”


im not talking impeachment or low poll numbers

im saying - would obama even be ALIVE???

how many hearings and investigations of the entire obama cabinet???



cue...the *ding

[LkrFan]

do you think obama would - even still be ALIVE -

if 61k dead- and obama strolled up to the podium and said “i take no responsibility”
and
”we have done a great job- it could have been a million or 2.2 million”


im not taking impeachment or low poll numbers

im saying - would obama even be ALIVE???

how many hearings and investigations of the entire obama cabinet???



cue...the *ding

Truth bombs. He'd be an assassinated MFer. No way they'd let him live.

[RandomGuy]

[/URL]



Statistically irrelevant, like I said. We're at 61k right now with another day to report.

Well last time you thought they were on the high end of predictions. Are they still "shit" that way, or are they on the low end? Tune us all in to your research

His research is whatever Q tells him to think.

[RandomGuy]

TSA never lets go of a grudge.

Alt-right playbook: never play defense.

[RandomGuy]

Odds are pretty good it will pass 60k by the end of this month, let alone August. Some Republitard states are still not locked down, and many are chomping at the bit to kill people and re-open.


No, odds are not pretty good it will pass 60K by the end of this month. The shitty IHME model that already factored in social distancing and has been revised down constantly isn't even predicting that.

TSA has another faith-based fail. :lmao

Make another lowball prediction based on WH estimates.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ForTheRuleOfLaw/status/1253838850381819914?s=19

[baseline bum]

Bro you can look at my post history to see that other than the begining of COVID, I have barely posted here for years. Sorry I"m not here to feed your bullshit. Its funny you think I care about your opinion. My post was saying that Fauci was right to to say 100k was a good estimate because the doubling pace we were on showed that we were going to hit 150k by the end of the month.



Just ask yourself this, if I was making a prediction of 150k by the end of April, why the fuck would I think Fauci's numbers of 100k total seemed appropriate? How does that add up?

You really don't understand exponential growth which is why you think that the difference between ~60k and 150k at the end result of an exponential curve is a big difference. It's not, but all you see is the 90k difference. Its the matter of about 1 doubling, One of the biggest problems with how the American people perceive this is that they really don't understand how close we were to this being multiple times worse on the first wave much less how bad subsequent waves will be. This also means that if we had not fucked around for a month, or even just reacted a week or two earlier, this could have been multiple times less deadly. That means 30-40k could have been saved if the idiots in charge would have listened to the experts a week or two earlier. But no, they have dumb fucks like you rooting them on. Good job.

Look, if you want to give me an L, feel free my dude. Spike the ball, keep mentioning me every week so that when I eventually do log back into Spurstalk I'll have like 5 notifications from you again. Rent free as a motherfucker, TBH.

God damn exponential growth is nasty. I kept trying to explain it upstairs and show why our number of deaths curve was going to have steeper exponential growth than Italy's and all I got was retards saying I was pinning Italty's deaths on Trump and how American only had 50 dead, who cares? It can't stay there forever with a virus outbreak since eventually the number of recovered+dead is enough to make it into a much tamer increasing curve with fewer targets for the virus (assuming immunity after getting it), but with it doubtful even 2% of our population is infected there is still plenty of time for nasty exponential growth before transition to a less nasty but still very steep growth.

[RandomGuy]

Bro you can look at my post history to see that other than the begining of COVID, I have barely posted here for years. Sorry I"m not here to feed your bullshit. Its funny you think I care about your opinion. My post was saying that Fauci was right to to say 100k was a good estimate because the doubling pace we were on showed that we were going to hit 150k by the end of the month.



Just ask yourself this, if I was making a prediction of 150k by the end of April, why the fuck would I think Fauci's numbers of 100k total seemed appropriate? How does that add up?

You really don't understand exponential growth which is why you think that the difference between ~60k and 150k at the end result of an exponential curve is a big difference. It's not, but all you see is the 90k difference. Its the matter of about 1 doubling, One of the biggest problems with how the American people perceive this is that they really don't understand how close we were to this being multiple times worse on the first wave much less how bad subsequent waves will be. This also means that if we had not fucked around for a month, or even just reacted a week or two earlier, this could have been multiple times less deadly. That means 30-40k could have been saved if the idiots in charge would have listened to the experts a week or two earlier. But no, they have dumb fucks like you rooting them on. Good job.

Look, if you want to give me an L, feel free my dude. Spike the ball, keep mentioning me every week so that when I eventually do log back into Spurstalk I'll have like 5 notifications from you again. Rent free as a motherfucker, TBH.

Part of a really good series on the alt-right. Highly recommend the channel. Even-handed and the guy does his research. The bit on the origins of modern conservatism was very good as well.

Never play defense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA

Watch the video. His technique fits into this pattern perfectly.

[Splits]

God damn exponential growth is nasty. I kept trying to explain it upstairs and show why our number of deaths curve was going to have steeper exponential growth than Italy's and all I got was retards saying I was pinning Italty's deaths on Trump and how American only had 50 dead, who cares? It can't stay there forever with a virus outbreak since eventually the number of recovered+dead is enough to make it into a much tamer increasing curve with fewer targets for the virus (assuming immunity after getting it), but with it doubtful even 2% of our population is infected there is still plenty of time for nasty exponential growth before transition to a less nasty but still very steep growth.

lol you're posting upstairs? I haven't opened that board since the season was cancelled. I hope you used my shit.

[spurraider21]

their bungling might cost us the NFL season tbh. crime against humanity

[weebo]

+60K CV19 deaths on Trump's watch. He fucked up. Anyone who thinks or says otherwise can fuck off.

[boutons_deux]

‘What the hell does this mean?’ Financial reporters aghast at White House’s ‘off the wall’ plan to punish China

“some administration officials have also discussed having

the U.S. cancel part of its debt obligations to China,”

which makes it sound like they are considering a sovereign default on U.S. debt.

“Does the US owe bilateral debt to China???

Or are they literally talking about defaulting on US Treasury bonds?”

“And self-destructive. And globally destabilizing.”

there is no way the administration will even consider this plan given that it would immediately send markets into a global meltdown.

“I have no idea what they mean by “voiding” US debt obligations to China,” he wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1255891083353079808).

“The Chinese own $1.1 trillion in Treasury securities.

Any effort to ‘void’ that would create unfathomable market chaos.

It simply cannot be done under any circumstances.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/what-the-hell-does-this-mean-financial-reporters-aghast-at-white-houses-off-the-wall-plan-to-punish-china/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4429&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

Trash stiff another supplier? totally in character. Trash has built his career on stiffing, cheating, defrauding.

[Spurs Homer]

+60K CV19 deaths on Trump's watch. He fucked up. Anyone who thinks or says otherwise can fuck off.

absolutely has blood on his hands...

and

so do the GOP who had overwhelming evidence to convict him and remove him just two months ago
and chose to cover up his criminality


they could have saved tens of thousands of lives

all they had to do - was their sworn duty.

[baseline bum]

+60K CV19 deaths on Trump's watch. He fucked up. Anyone who thinks or says otherwise can fuck off.

Having another Vietnam War in one month no big deal.

[boutons_deux]

White House, Congress have not given any hazard pay to the medical workers they call heroes

The trillions in federal relief money has not included raises for front-line workers.

Many also don’t get paid sick leave because of a legislative exclusion.

a proposal to offer such aid has not been seriously considered during negotiations over any of the four bills approved by Congress to respond to the novel coronavirus

More than 45 nurses (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/nurses-read-names-of-colleagues-who-died-of-the-coronavirus-in-front-of-the-white-house/2020/04/21/fc93184c-83e6-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_14&itid=lk_inline_manual_14) in the United States have died of covid-19, the disease the novel coronavirus causes, while at least a half-dozen doctors (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2020/04/16/the-health-202-coronavirus-is-sickening-thousands-of-medical-workers/5e972f6988e0fa101a763966/?tid=lk_inline_manual_14&itid=lk_inline_manual_14) have died in states including Arizona, Michigan, Florida and New York.

numerous hospitals across the country have slashed pay for nurses and doctors,

as the suspension of elective surgeries drains health-care companies of a vital source of revenue.

Health-care systems in California, Maine, Minnesota and Colorado have all announced pay cuts or furloughs to their employees.

Stanford Health Care announced pay cuts this week of up to 20 percent for roughly 14,000 health-care workers, including personnel responding to the coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_15&itid=lk_inline_manual_15).

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/white-house-congress-have-not-given-any-hazard-pay-medical-workers-despite-calling-them-heroes/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYjM2ZTBmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzgzZGY0Ii widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDQvMzAvd2hpdGUtaG91c2UtY29uZ3 Jlc3MtaGF2ZS1ub3QtZ2l2ZW4tYW55LWhhemFyZC1wYXktbWVk aWNhbC13b3JrZXJzLWRlc3BpdGUtY2FsbGluZy10aGVtLWhlcm 9lcy8_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHRoJnV0 bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJn dwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.f1XK7ELFDyRuXxi96WGb NGMVpiqbnvwpRDSJYIHDit0&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)The Families First Coronavirus Response Act that Congress passed in March

specifically excludes health-care companies and firms with more than 500 employees

from having to give two weeks of paid sick leave (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/paid-sick-leave-coronavirus-house-bill/?tid=lk_inline_manual_17&itid=lk_inline_manual_17).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/white-house-congress-have-not-given-any-hazard-pay-medical-workers-despite-calling-them-heroes/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYjM2ZTBmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzgzZGY0Ii widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDQvMzAvd2hpdGUtaG91c2UtY29uZ3 Jlc3MtaGF2ZS1ub3QtZ2l2ZW4tYW55LWhhemFyZC1wYXktbWVk aWNhbC13b3JrZXJzLWRlc3BpdGUtY2FsbGluZy10aGVtLWhlcm 9lcy8_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHRoJnV0 bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJn dwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.f1XK7ELFDyRuXxi96WGb NGMVpiqbnvwpRDSJYIHDit0&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/white-house-congress-have-not-given-any-hazard-pay-medical-workers-despite-calling-them-heroes/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYjM2ZTBmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzgzZGY0Ii widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDQvMzAvd2hpdGUtaG91c2UtY29uZ3 Jlc3MtaGF2ZS1ub3QtZ2l2ZW4tYW55LWhhemFyZC1wYXktbWVk aWNhbC13b3JrZXJzLWRlc3BpdGUtY2FsbGluZy10aGVtLWhlcm 9lcy8_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHRoJnV0 bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJn dwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.f1XK7ELFDyRuXxi96WGb NGMVpiqbnvwpRDSJYIHDit0&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)

[RandomGuy]

‘What the hell does this mean?’ Financial reporters aghast at White House’s ‘off the wall’ plan to punish China

“some administration officials have also discussed having

the U.S. cancel part of its debt obligations to China,”

which makes it sound like they are considering a sovereign default on U.S. debt.

“Does the US owe bilateral debt to China???

Or are they literally talking about defaulting on US Treasury bonds?”

“And self-destructive. And globally destabilizing.”

there is no way the administration will even consider this plan given that it would immediately send markets into a global meltdown.

“I have no idea what they mean by “voiding” US debt obligations to China,” he wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1255891083353079808).

“The Chinese own $1.1 trillion in Treasury securities.

Any effort to ‘void’ that would create unfathomable market chaos.

It simply cannot be done under any circumstances.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/what-the-hell-does-this-mean-financial-reporters-aghast-at-white-houses-off-the-wall-plan-to-punish-china/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4429&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

Trash stiff another supplier? totally in character. Trash has built his career on stiffing, cheating, defrauding.




That is so monumentally stupid.

Yet so plausible.

Yet another "that is where we are" moment. fuck.

Injecting bleach and defaulting on bonds.

That is the administration in a nutshell.

[boutons_deux]

That is so monumentally stupid.

Yet so plausible.

Yet another "that is where we are" moment. fuck.

Injecting bleach and defaulting on bonds.

That is the administration in a nutshell.

Trash and Repugs have gifted us so many unthinkable acts, but we ain't seen nothing yet.

Trash loses election, 51 -49, refuses to concede, claims Ms of fraudulent Dem voters, contests the election, demands recount, refuses to leave the WH.

That would be time for some Salvador Allende treatment.

[slick'81]

https://i.imgur.com/fLzulVd.jpg

[boutons_deux]

As Trump claims US has best Covid-19 testing in the world, :lol :lol

Capitol physician says he lacks capacity to test all 100 senators :lol :lol


“We don’t have the capability to do a large-scale test,” Dr. Brian Monahan said in a conference call with GOP officials

“My test result can take between two and seven business days to resolve,” said Monahan, who noted that

he doesn’t have access to the rapid tests used by the White House to test the president, vice president, and other executive branch officials.

Monahan told Republican officials that he will only be able to test senators and staffers who are showing symptoms.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/as-trump-claims-us-has-best-covid-19-testing-in-the-world-capitol-physician-says-he-lacks-capacity-to-test-all-100-senators/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4435 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/as-trump-claims-us-has-best-covid-19-testing-in-the-world-capitol-physician-says-he-lacks-capacity-to-test-all-100-senators/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4435)

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Under Jared's rule with his McKinsey/frat rat boys

Trump administration ‘wasted’ the last month — and the results are ‘devastating’: disaster relief expert

President Donald Trump made April the month to “stop the spread” :lol of COVID-19 in the United States —

but disaster relief expert Jeremy Konyndyk believes the administration utterly failed to make real progress.

summarizing how the administration’s efforts have only put the United States on a plateau when it comes to new coronavirus cases.

the federal government wasted April much as it wasted February,”

without competent federal leadership, the best we are managing is to tread water.”

“It looks like US-style lockdowns are enough to freeze transmission in place (R=1)

but not enough to drive it down (R<1),"

"Which suggests that without further measures (more on that in a sec),

we could remain on this plateau for quite a while.

That of course would be devastating."

he expresses little hope that it will actually take his recommendations.

"The way forward is very clear: test, trace, isolate, protect,"

"Putting that infrastructure into place can

bring down cases to a manageable level,

enable us to relax lockdowns, and

move to a posture of sustainable suppression.

But that will be tough to deliver without the feds."

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trump-administration-wasted-the-last-month-and-the-results-are-devastating-disaster-relief-expert/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4435

no worries, Doc, Trash The Bungler is proud of his Trash Pandemic doing so well