Official Trump administration bungling response to pandemic thread.

[DMC]

What you meant was pretty clear. Don't get all whiny on me if you can't be fully clear.

You are the one that works with strawman lies. Quit accusing me of your foibles.

Those words aren't even mentioned in the post you quoted stupid fucker.

[clambake]

Okay you're a chickenshit. That's all I needed to know.

And you’re obsessed with wanting to send me and El nono random pictures of men.

Thanks for showing the world how fat and stupid you are

[boutons_deux]

https://media.tenor.com/images/3ac080effe1398c20b58462eaa2068f7/tenor.gif

[boutons_deux]

More evidence of the Trash's criminal negligent manslaughter

Leaked documents show how Trump White House ‘muzzled’ the CDC’s early COVID-19 warnings


Trump White House (http://rawstory.com/2020/05/science-as-the-enemy-cnns-berman-taken-aback-trumps-latest-rant-about-hydroxychloroquine/) shut down the Centers for Disease Control’s early attempts to sound the alarm about COVID-19’s spread throughout the United States (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/leaked-pentagon-memo-undercuts-trumps-covid-19-happy-talk-and-projects-no-vaccine-until-next-summer/).

the documents show how the CDC in early March wanted to issue a public alert for air travelers

about the dangers of flying during the COVID-19 pandemic,

but then the White House delayed issuing it by a week,

which CNN describes as “crucial time lost when about 66,000 European travelers were streaming into American airports every day.”

Six current CDC employees told CNN that this incident was just one of many in which the White House put politics above public safety.

“We’ve been muzzled,”

if we would have acted earlier on what we knew and recommended,

we would have saved lives and money.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/leaked-documents-show-how-trump-white-house-muzzled-the-cdcs-early-covid-19-warnings/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4578

[RandomGuy]

Those words aren't even mentioned in the post you quoted stupid fucker.


Your post:

Spaceforce good when Obama was POTUS

Implied on context:[Hey Randomguy you think Spaceforce is bad because Trump did it, but "good when Obama" did it, that makes you a hypocrite].

I then pantsed you with a couple of quotes showing I thought it was good when Trump did it, showing you didn't even bother trying to figure out what I actually thought, before you rushed out like a desperate idiot to try and find some chink in my armor.

You failed.

It amuses me. My post was not a strawman lie, unlike your constant barrage of lies and personal attacks. I can reach back in any thread where you are active and find dozens of examples of strawmen.

[RandomGuy]

Yes it is. You were wrong. I made you move your goalpost three times so you could try to pretend you're right.

You didn't even notice Darrin stopped by to take a shit on you as well. That can only feed your rage.

You were wrong, dude. It's OK. People know you can be wrong. It has happened before and it will happen again. You make it worse when you throw a little hissy fit.

It is kind of bizarre. Constant personal attacks, abusive lies, and when caught in being wrong about things, a total avoidance mechanism, either ignoring it, or outright denying it, or playing to minute semantics "the card says moops".

[tholdren]

It is kind of bizarre. Constant personal attacks, abusive lies, and when caught in being wrong about things, a total avoidance mechanism, either ignoring it, or outright denying it, or playing to minute semantics "the card says moops".

weren't you the one that said evictions can legally take place in 24 hours? By changing the locks?

[boutons_deux]

Intelligence agencies found it impossible to convince Trump that COVID-19 was a serious problem (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/21/1946613/-Intelligence-agencies-found-it-impossible-to-convince-Trump-that-COVID-19-was-a-serious-problem)

Trump was getting daily, sometimes hourly, updates from intelligence agencies

warning about the increasing threat of the pandemic for months

—months in which he kept on golfing, holding rallies, and saying it would all just go away “like magic.”

But Trump has found a scapegoat even among the intelligence community.

Shockingly (in a completely unshocking way) that scapegoat is an experienced woman.

Trump has found the finger strength to also direct blame toward

career intelligence analyst Beth Sanner,

who has the most unrewarding job in all of intelligence work — trying to get Donald Trump to listen to his daily briefing.

Saying that

he wasn’t concerned because

Sanner apparently failed to add enough red letters or pictures of scary monsters on his daily briefing sheets

doesn’t address the fact that

there were numerous special meetings and frequent memos across January and February.

Meetings and memos in which Trump was given increasingly dire warnings

by epidemiologists,
scientists,
military strategists,
biodefense experts,
the HHS secretary,
CDC officials, and
intelligence officials who outranked Sanner.

But sure. Trump has focused blame on the woman who failed to come into his office humming the Jaws theme. It’s all her fault.

Trump has focused on a briefing Sanner prepared for January 23 in which Trump claims the virus was presented as “no big deal.”

No big deal except for the fact that this meeting came

five days after he’d already been given a briefing on the unfolding crisis in China and warned about the need to prepare the nation.

That was far from the only time.

Both before and after that January 23 briefing,

Trump was warned repeatedly about the scope of the looming threat (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html).

And repeatedly, Trump refused to listen.

Instead, he insisted on

downplaying the threat to the public,

bragging about the stock market, and

going on with his frequent golf trips and rallies.

when confronted by information that doesn’t mesh with what he already believed, Trump simply dismisses it out of hand.

It’s a problem so bad, that

intelligence agencies have actually hired consultants

to asks them how they can make their pablum soft enough for Trump’s digestion.

Trump cannot change his mind.

He does not learn.

Once he has an idea in his head, it is the idea, and

can’t be ousted no matter how much expertise is levied, or

how many deaths prove otherwise.

Trump can’t be taught.

He can only be expelled. The sooner the better.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/21/1946613/-Intelligence-agencies-found-it-impossible-to-convince-Trump-that-COVID-19-was-a-serious-problem?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/21/1946613/-Intelligence-agencies-found-it-impossible-to-convince-Trump-that-COVID-19-was-a-serious-problem?detail=emaildkre)

[tholdren]

weren't you the one that said evictions can legally take place in 24 hours? By changing the locks?

To put things in perspective, the virus is now known to have an infection fatality rate for most people under 65 that is no more dangerous than driving 13 to 101 miles per day. Even by conservative estimates, the odds of COVID-19 death are roughly in line with existing baseline odds of dying in any given year

[clambake]

He’s responsible for hiding the information that killed 100,000 fellow Americans and put 42,000,000 fellow Americans out of work.

[tholdren]

He’s responsible for hiding the information that killed 100,000 fellow Americans and put 42,000,000 fellow Americans out of work.

There were, of course, people warning us all along. Among them was as John P.A. Ioannidis of Stanford University School of Medicine, who ranks among the world’s 100 most-cited scientists on Google Scholar. On that pivotal day of March 17 he released an essay titled “A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data” — but it got little attention. Mainstream media was not interested in good news stories or dissenting views. The world instead marched lock step into its man-made calamity

[Spurtacular]

MSNBC and CNN shed a lot of tears about Trump not wearing a mask. Meanwhile, prosperity buds again. Not good news for the left.

[clambake]

There were, of course, people warning us all along. Among them was as John P.A. Ioannidis of Stanford University School of Medicine, who ranks among the world’s 100 most-cited scientists on Google Scholar. On that pivotal day of March 17 he released an essay titled “A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data” — but it got little attention. Mainstream media was not interested in good news stories or dissenting views. The world instead marched lock step into its man-made calamity
Trump is responsible for hiding the information way back in November.

[ChumpDumper]

MSNBC and CNN shed a lot of tears about Trump not wearing a mask. Meanwhile, prosperity buds again. Not good news for the left.? That's good news for everyone, weirdo. If it's true.

[tholdren]

Trump is responsible for hiding the information way back in November.

trump tried to tell you. The cure can't be worse than the disease. And he was right. You and your anti science

[ChumpDumper]

trump tried to tell you. The cure can't be worse than the disease. And he was right. You and your anti scienceHis cure was doing nothing.

[clambake]

trump tried to tell you. The cure can't be worse than the disease. And he was right. You and your anti science

Nah he lied to everyone for selfish reasons.

[tholdren]

His cure was doing nothing.
Which all science is now agreeing with i.e. no lockdown

[ChumpDumper]

Which all science is now agreeing with i.e. no lockdownAll science?

Prove it.

Show all the science.

[tholdren]

All science?

Prove it.

Show all the science.

Jesus. Are you really that dumb?

[ChumpDumper]

Jesus. Are you really that dumb?If you can't show all the science, just say so.

[tholdren]

If you can't show all the science, just say so.
Obviously you can't read, kansas flu. Oh thats right you don't understand the graphs I've posted because, you don't have a math or science background. Lol wet market boy

[ChumpDumper]

:cryEither post ALL the science or say you can't. Don't go into another meltdown.

[tholdren]

Either post ALL the science or say you can't. Don't go into another meltdown.

Hahahhaha you can't read a graph. I posted the cdc science last night and you didn't even know what you were reading. Which is why it's been a joy dragging you around every time you post because you have no clue of what any of it means. Its hilarious.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry:lol still can't post ALL the science. It's a joy watching your meltdowns day after day.

[tholdren]

:lol still can't post ALL the science. It's a joy watching your meltdowns day after day.
Lol how does the virus spread. You would know if you could read any report released. Bwahahahhah

[ChumpDumper]

Lol how does the virus spread.:lmao you still can't answer.

:rollin ALL THE SCIENCE

[tholdren]

:lmao you still can't answer.

:rollin ALL THE SCIENCE
Trolling yourself and don't know it. Classic

[ChumpDumper]

Trolling yourself and don't know it. Classic:lol I wasn't trolling you. I was asking you a question you still can't answer.

:lol Making yourself meltdown.

[tholdren]

:lol I wasn't trolling you. I was asking you a question you still can't answer.

:lol Making yourself meltdown.

Just keeps getting better because you don't know what it means and you are sadly continuing to look dumber because you don't get it. You even asked for a lesson on how to read it. Bwahahahahha

[ChumpDumper]

Just keeps getting better because you don't know what it means and you are sadly continuing to look dumber because you don't get it. You even asked for a lesson on how to read it. BwahahahahhaI asked you how the virus is spread.

You still won't say.

My point is made.

lol

[tholdren]

I asked you how the virus is spread.

You still won't say.

My point is made.

lol
No you still don't understand. Read the report come back and I will wait for you to get it.

[ChumpDumper]

No you still don't understand. Read the report come back and I will wait for you to get it.Nope, I already asked you how it's spread according to you.

You still won't say.

So you're done.:tu

[boutons_deux]

Trump admin doled out a no-bid $600 million contract for mask-cleaning machines that don't work (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/20/1946434/-Trump-admin-doled-out-a-no-bid-600-million-contract-for-mask-cleaning-machines-that-don-t-work)

the FDA approved a machine that disinfected N95 respirator masks, allowing up to 20 uses of a single mask.

Battelle, the company that made the machines, claimed that this process would not degrade the mask’s “performance.”

At the time, reports claimed the machine would cost the government $60 million for 60 machines.

But as NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-paying-huge-premium-mask-cleaning-machines-which-don-n1210896)reports, that number somehow ballooned to $413 million over the next few days.

By the beginning of May, the cost of these machines was capped at $600 million

“scientists and nurses say the

recycled masks treated by these machines begin to degrade after two or three treatments, not 20,

and the company says its own recent field testing has only confirmed the integrity of the masks for four cycles of use and decontamination.”

nurses and others who have said the machines are a joke and the costs would be exorbitant even if the machines worked as advertised—which they don’t.

A source close to the Mike Pence-led task force told NBC (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-paying-huge-premium-mask-cleaning-machines-which-don-n1210896) that


the Trump administration takes big wild swings and

doesn’t care whether or not anything works.

“They’re gambling that they’ll win one time,

and if they don’t they’ll just deflect,

which is what we see inside all the time.”

Katie Porter of California has presented the American public with receipts showing (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/8/1935508/-America-last-Rep-Porter-has-receipts-showing-Trump-chose-a-quick-buck-over-American-lives) that

the Trump administration allowed companies to export tons of protective equipment and machines during the early months of the spreading pandemic.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/20/1946434/-Trump-admin-doled-out-a-no-bid-600-million-contract-for-mask-cleaning-machines-that-don-t-work?detail=emaildksp (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/20/1946434/-Trump-admin-doled-out-a-no-bid-600-million-contract-for-mask-cleaning-machines-that-don-t-work?detail=emaildksp)

$1M / machine? How many new N95 masks, one-time disposal, would that buy? 300,000? 500,000?

Trash expects $10Ms of the taxpayers' $400M for Batelle to come back to his campaign.

[tholdren]

So let me get the gist of this thread. Start with trying to use science, but when science is going against lockdowns being effective, death rate lower, transmissibility lower, and not a threat to anyone outside a certain demo its back to gossip?

Got it.

Targets of T cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in
humans with COVID-19 disease and unexposed
individuals

[ChumpDumper]

So let me get the gist of this thread. Start with trying to use science, but when science is going against lockdowns being effective, death rate lower, transmissibility lower, and not a threat to anyone outside a certain demo its back to gossip?

Got it.

Targets of T cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in
humans with COVID-19 disease and unexposed
individualsWhat does your science say the case and death count would be now with absolutely no lockdowns anywhere?

Post the numbers and the link to where you got them.

[clambake]

We, as fellow Americans, need to de-classify all of the intelligence and when it alerted the White House. I think all Americans should know that they knew in November and did nothing other than cover it up.

[DarrinS]

We, as fellow Americans, need to de-classify all of the intelligence and when it alerted the White House. I think all Americans should know that they knew in November and did nothing other than cover it up.

What information is required to develop a PCR test?

When was that information published?

[clambake]

What information is required to develop a PCR test?

When was that information published?

Do you agree about releasing all the intelligence gathered and discovering when they were alerted?

[ChumpDumper]

What information is required to develop a PCR test?

When was that information published?Weird swerve.

[Spurs Homer]

100,000 dead americans

I say after trump is out of office they should prosecute him for negligent homicide

[tholdren]

100,000 dead americans

I say after trump is out of office they should prosecute him for negligent homicide

well he cured cancer, so he should get a fair trial at least.

[boutons_deux]

Trump planning to strip pandemic response from health officials, and give it to State Department

Dr. Deborah Birx has proven herself a loyal Trump lieutenant;

ever willing to stand in the background as Trump urges Americans to take a dangerous off-label drug,

attacks the CDC for trying to provide guidelines for safe conduct of business, or

openly attacks the results of scientific studies.

Birx willingness to be the Kellyanne of medical advice, :lol

always up to twist the facts to fit the latest Trump statement, hasn’t gone unnoticed.

Because there’s a plan on the table

to hand over global pandemic response to Birx and

create a whole new health organization …

inside the State Department.

It would see the international role currently held by USAID stripped away.

Instead, power would be centralized in the safely inspector-general-free State Department,

with Birx as the expected head of this new division.

this new operation would form a sort of home-grown alternative.

Only this version would be completely under the thumb of Pompeo and Trump.

It would be this new faux WHO that

determined the distribution of vaccines,

and managed the response to any outbreak.
And they have a name for it: the President’s Response to Outbreaks. Otherwise known as PRO. :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1947181

The Bungling is UnPresidented

[boutons_deux]

Fauci Urges Trump to Remain on Golf Course Until Pandemic Is Over


https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ecac10196c647f7e42ef191/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Borowitz-TrumpGolf.jpg

WASHINGTON —Sharply disagreeing with critics of Donald J. Trump’s weekend visit to the Trump National Golf Club,

Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged Trump to remain on the golf course until the pandemic is over.

“The people who are giving you a hard time about your golf trip are just haters,” Fauci told Trump on Sunday.

“It’s in the best interest of everyone in the country that you keep golfing, Mr. President.” “Please,”

Trump was reportedly surprised by the doctor’s words of encouragement, especially because

the golf trip had limited the President’s ability to communicate with Fauci, the Centers for Disease Control, and other scientists involved in the coronavirus response.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fauci-urges-trump-to-remain-on-golf-course-until-pandemic-is-over (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fauci-urges-trump-to-remain-on-golf-course-until-pandemic-is-over)

[Spurs Homer]

100,000 dead americans

trump golfing again

worst president ever in world history

[weebo]

100,000 dead americans

trump golfing again

worst president ever in world history

When you’re responsible for killing so many Americans sometimes you just need to take a break.

[ChumpDumper]

When you’re responsible for killing so many Americans sometimes you just need to take a break.He deserves a spa day tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Trash bullied dickless, spineless red states into re-opening, where C19 cases are already increasing, with church-going so-called Christians as cannon fodder in Trash's culture war campaign.

[boutons_deux]

'How the Trump White House Sees You':

Top Economic Adviser Under Fire for

Calling Workers 'Human Capital Stock'


"They've always been indifferent to human life. And in the face of mass death, the masks are coming off."

the Trump administration views

workers as nothing more than disposable tools of economic growth and corporate profit,

White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett on Sunday nonchalantly referred to

laid-off employees as "human capital stock" as he pushed people to return to their jobs amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/05/26/how-trump-white-house-sees-you-presidents-economic-adviser-under-fire-calling?cd-origin=rss

[tholdren]

Nope, I already asked you how it's spread according to you.

You still won't say.

So you're done.:tu

did you ever get anywhere with that thought you had about antibody tests and the positivity count/ new daily cases? Lol

You are almost there....

[ChumpDumper]

did you ever get anywhereNot asking you how you say the virus is spread.

You folded.

lol you're dpme

[Spurs Homer]

In honor of the 100 thousand deaths at the hands of the criminal negligent cunt-

we must bumpity bump to keep the spotlight on the piece of shit who has destroyed this country.

move this bitch up to page one

[Spurs Homer]

100000 dead


i blame at least 90000 on the negligent criminal piece of shit traitor


90000 counts of - criminal negligent homicide

[boutons_deux]

A closer look at Trump COVID contractors reveals

inexperience,

fraud accusations and

a weapons dealer operating out of someone’s house

A firm set up by a former telemarketer who once settled federal fraud charges for $2.7 million.

A vodka distributor accused in a pending lawsuit of overstating its projected sales.

An aspiring weapons dealer operating out of a single-family home.

These three privately held companies are part of the new medical supply chain,

offered a total of almost $74 million by the federal government

to find and rapidly deliver vital protective equipment and COVID-19 testing supplies across the U.S.

While there’s no evidence that they obtained their deals through political connections,

none of the three had to bid against competing firms.

One has already lost its contract for lack of performance;

it’s unclear if the other two can fulfill their orders on time, or at all.

They are among about

345 first-time federal contractors promised atleast $1.8 billion

in deals by the Trump administration since March,representing about 13% of total government spending on pandemicrelated contracts of $13.8 billion

Like the three companies, many of the newcontractors have no experience acquiring medical products.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/a-closer-look-at-trump-covid-contractors-reveals-inexperience-fraud-accusations-and-a-weapons-dealer-operating-out-of-someones-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4645 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/a-closer-look-at-trump-covid-contractors-reveals-inexperience-fraud-accusations-and-a-weapons-dealer-operating-out-of-someones-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4645)

[boutons_deux]

An Obama-era plan to protect medical workers in a pandemic was thwarted under Trump

Obama’s administration left behind a comprehensive pandemic game plan (https://couriernewsroom.com/2020/04/14/obama-prepared-for-a-potential-pandemic-trump-gutted-his-work/) that included a 69-page playbook (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285).

But Trump’s administration abandoned those Obama-era recommendations.

On top of that, National Public Radio’s Brian Mann is reporting that

Trump’s administration, in 2017,

“stopped work on new federal regulations that

would have forced the health care industry

to prepare for an airborne infectious disease pandemic such as COVID-19.”

“If that rule had gone into effect, then every hospital,

every nursing home would essentially have to have a plan

where they made sure they had enough respirators and they were prepared for this sort of pandemic.”

just one way of many in which these policies can go wrong with disastrous consequences.

Many of these negative consequences may not emerge until years later.

NPR reviewed the records confirming that Trump’s team abandoned the regulatory proposal made by under Obama.

the U.S. still has “no specific federal regulations protecting health care workers from deadly airborne pathogens such as influenza, tuberculosis or the coronavirus.”

“H1N1 made it very clear OSHA did not have adequate standards for airborne transmission and contact transmission, and so, we began writing a standard to do that.”

in the spring of 2017, Trump’s team “formally stripped OSHA’s airborne infectious disease rule from the regulatory agenda,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/revealed-an-obama-era-plan-to-protect-medical-workers-in-a-pandemic-was-thwarted-under-trump/

Criminal negligent manslaughter

Criminal reckless endangerment

10Ks, so far, dead directly from Trash's crimes

[boutons_deux]

Florida forced medical examiners to stop reporting death results, and now we know why

Back in April, it became clear that Florida was intentionally hiding a list of daily deaths (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/29/1941318/-Deaths-from-COVID-19-are-being-highly-underreported-and-in-some-cases-that-appears-to-be-deliberate) that had previously been compiled by county medical examiners.

Since that time, those examiners, as well as hospitals and local officials, have complained that the number of COVID-19 deaths being reported in Governor Ron DeSantis regular updates,

doesn’t match what they’re seeing in their areas.

Last week, the scientist behind Florida’s COVID-19 dashboard was fired (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/20/1946377/-Florida-Gov-DeSantis-accused-of-changing-COVID-19-numbers-to-make-reopening-seem-more-reasonable)after she says she refused to alter numbers as she was told.

it looks like DeSantis has been taking COVID-19 deaths out of one column and inserting them into another.

Even before the state took what had always been public information and began to hide it behind a newfound concern for privacy,

there was evidence that DeSantis was covering up COVID-19 in the “Sunshine State.”

the Sun Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-florida-pneumonia-flu-deaths-spike-20200417-lkel6rlik5blhd5zdktkrxhzze-story.html) warned that there was a spike in “pneumonia deaths” indicating that COVID-19 was already present and active in the state at a time when the official test results were showing a handful of cases.

Even though flu cases were winding down in mid-March, pneumonia deaths had continued to head straight up.

“It is likely that they missed some COVID-19 deaths and reported them as respiratory deaths.”

However, while it might have been possible that deaths in March and early April were missed simply because state officials weren’t keyed to look for COVID-19 deaths, that certainly wasn’t true after that day.

paper pointed out that DeSantis “continues to keep Floridians in the dark about what is—and isn’t—happening in the state’s 3,800 nursing homes and assisted-living facilities.”

the “whack-a-mole approach” to dealing with nursing homes was failing.

Instead, the percentage of deaths in those facilities was continuing to grow along with a rising tide of new cases.

As the firing of Dr. Rebekah Jones made clear, Florida has only continued to hide and alter more information over time.

Florida is one of several states where a particular category of deaths that have happened in 2020 represents a sharp increase over past years. That category is deaths due to “flu or pneumonia.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/28/1948035/-More-evidence-emerges-that-DeSantis-has-been-deliberately-under-reporting-COVID-19-deaths-in-Florida?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/28/1948035/-More-evidence-emerges-that-DeSantis-has-been-deliberately-under-reporting-COVID-19-deaths-in-Florida?detail=emaildkre)

What does a shitbag Repug prick like Desantis hope to achieve by lying to his voters?

[RandomGuy]

So let me get the gist of this thread. Start with trying to use science, but when science is going against lockdowns being effective, death rate lower, transmissibility lower, and not a threat to anyone outside a certain demo its back to gossip?

Got it.

Targets of T cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in
humans with COVID-19 disease and unexposed
individuals

What science are you referring to? Link?

[RandomGuy]

weren't you the one that said evictions can legally take place in 24 hours? By changing the locks?

Go back and read. Not what I said.

[tholdren]

Go back and read. Not what I said.

Lolololl nah you wrong

[RandomGuy]

Where did I say "no mask is effective"?

I didn't read after that straw man.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/pence-coronavirus-mask-4-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1024

The "Czar" is in this picture.

Anyone care to guess who is in charge of the task force? anyone? anyone?

I would laugh, but this is too pathetically, tragically, fucking stupid and deadly. :grim


The one who knows the mask is a placebo and fucking pointless?

Looks like they are all wearing the surgical masks you now are saying are effective. Did I miss something?

[Spurs Homer]

105,000 dead - and the second wave about to anal-rape the USA - and trump is doing bible photo-ops?

This fucking murdering traitor!

[DMC]

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing – they are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward, it’s very rare,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said during a news briefing. “Much of that is not published in the literature.”

“We’re constantly looking at this data, and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question,” she added. “It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.”


Placebo.. like I said.

[ElNono]

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing – they are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward, it’s very rare,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said during a news briefing. “Much of that is not published in the literature.”

“We’re constantly looking at this data, and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question,” she added. “It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.”

Placebo.. like I said.

You should really post the whole article, since there's opposing views to this there too...

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/501696-who-official-asymptomatic-spread-of-coronavirus-very-rare

Hopefully your hunch is confirmed, as it would be a bit of good news.

[boutons_deux]

You should really post the whole article, since there's opposing views to this there too...

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/501696-who-official-asymptomatic-spread-of-coronavirus-very-rare

Hopefully your hunch is confirmed, as it would be a bit of good news.

WHO’s new announcement about COVID-19 was a huge mistake

experts are saying was a gigantic mistake.

The announcement addressed this question:

Can people infected with COVID-19 who don’t display any symptoms still transmit the infection to others?

For months now, public health officials have said yes, and

this fact has driven many of the extreme measures countries across the world have taken in response.

But in a CNBC (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain) article :lol :lol of course, back to work!

published Monday reported WHO officials suggesting at a recent briefing in Geneva that

transmission from people without symptoms is “very rare.”

It seemed to suggest to some — erroneously, it’s now clear — that social distancing is not nearly as important as has been assumed.

A CNBC :lol :lol tweet about the story initially conveyed a much stronger message than even was WHO officials explicitly said, that

asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus. :lol

it seems WHO’s discussion of “asymptomatic” transmission of the virus

focuses on a narrow subset of people who never have symptoms, or have very mild symptoms.

The problem is it’s impossible, at first, to tell these people apart from the group that is pre-symptomatic — those that have been infected but have not yet developed symptoms.

And there’s extensive evidence to believe that these people can transmit the virus to others,

which explains why it can spread so easily.

People who haven’t experienced their symptoms yet are more likely to be out and about, allowing the virus to spread more widely.

“Asymptomatic persons seem to account for approximately 40% to 45% of SARS-CoV-2 infections, and

they can transmit the virus to others for an extended period, perhaps longer than 14 days.”

“We haven’t seen a lot of evidence of fully asymptomatic people transmitting to many others (though admittedly these tracing studies are hard to do).

Pre-symptomatic transmission, on the other hand, is why SARS-CoV-2 has been harder to control than SARS-CoV,”

“Abundant data now shows that

WHO’s new announcement, he said, “is going to mislead many people and is based on flawed evidence due to how it was collected.”

“an irresponsible statement even though it was based on legitimate observations.”

WHO, ... wasn’t recommending people change their behavior based off these findings.

the damage may already be done. :lol Thanks, CNBC

A small amount of misinformation can spread quickly,

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/whos-new-announcement-about-covid-19-was-a-huge-mistake/

[DMC]

Asymptomatic, dipshit. Rawstory.. that's your asshole.

Keep panicking bootyhole. You're a clown. Dance clown.

[Spurs Homer]

Another hundred thousand projected to die because of this traitor murdering nazi...


and no plan...


no dr fauci

no CDC allowed to begin a comprehensive plan

nope


just a dictator spinning an “all is well” narrative and idiot cultists obeying at their naked emperoor...

[RandomGuy]

“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? We do more testing,” Trump said during a visit to a medical supply company in Pennsylvania. “When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”

Holy fuckballs he actually said that.

Maybe we can get rid of cancer like that. MAGIC.

[RandomGuy]

And the bungling continues.

Re-opening schools? Check. Not sure how they are going to conduct schools when teachers start having to quarantine for 14 days without sick pay...

[boutons_deux]

And the bungling continues.

Re-opening schools? Check. Not sure how they are going to conduct schools when teachers start having to quarantine for 14 days without sick pay...

Kaiser Family Foundation says 25% of teachers nationwide have comorbidities that make them very susceptible to serious symptoms or death from C19.

[RandomGuy]

Kaiser Family Foundation says 25% of teachers nationwide have comorbidities that make them very susceptible to serious symptoms or death from C19.






Well, that oughta help Republicans win re-election. "lets enact policies that kill teachers".

[RandomGuy]

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing – they are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward, it’s very rare,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said during a news briefing. “Much of that is not published in the literature.”

“We’re constantly looking at this data, and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question,” she added. “It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.”


Placebo.. like I said.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768391



Until an effective vaccine is available, the primary methods to reduce spread are face masks, social distancing, and contact tracing. Monoclonal antibodies and hyperimmune globulin may provide additional preventive strategies.

:rollin

[RandomGuy]

MSNBC and CNN shed a lot of tears about Trump not wearing a mask. Meanwhile, prosperity buds again. Not good news for the left.

So you think the 57,000,000 school children are all going to wear masks all the time?

How many dead children are acceptable to you?

Devoss is fine with about 10,000.

[DMC]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768391




:rollin

Method /= effective

Diet, exercise and a face mask help you to lose weight.

[ChumpDumper]

There is a number of anecdotes that people feel aren't important enough to actually publish.

OK.

[DMC]

There is a number of anecdotes that people feel aren't important enough to actually publish.

OK.

There "are" a number of anecdotes...

[ChumpDumper]

There "are" a number of anecdotes...:lol Do you say things like "four are a number"?

I'll believe you if you say you do.

There is a number.

There are anecdotes.

But sure, if you think you're right read it that way. I'm fine with it. Maybe look up a usage guide if it's important to you. I'll accept whatever it says and I could certainly be wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

.

[TSA]

So you think the 57,000,000 school children are all going to wear masks all the time?

How many dead children are acceptable to you?

Devoss is fine with about 10,000.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1282740341838405634

[Spurtacular]

So you think the 57,000,000 school children are all going to wear masks all the time?

How many dead children are acceptable to you?

Devoss is fine with about 10,000.

Is that a quote or just something some crybaby fed you?

How many dead children is acceptable to you?

[spurraider21]

either "there is a number of anecdotes" or "there are numbers of anecdotes

number(s) is operative, not anecdotes

[boutons_deux]

either "there is a number of anecdotes" or "there are numbers of anecdotes

number(s) is operative, not anecdotes

the verb it to agree with the number of the antecedent of "there"

[boutons_deux]

Leaving The Pandemic Response To States Doomed The Country To Fail Together

From Florida to Texas, coronavirus cases are climbing in nearly 40 states across the U.S.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pandemic-response-states-doomed-coronavirus_n_5f0cc715c5b6310dc1573168?ncid=newslt ushpmgnews

Wannabe Macho Man Big Shot Trash got bullied by the pandemic,

and he fucking quit even trying to "punch back 10x harder"

slithering away and leaving the pandemic up to the states with no Federal guidance,

because he's the classic DICKLESS chickenshit bully,

Trash punches, and punches back, only when he has totally risk-free superiority

Trash could have had (a better chance of ) a 2nd term

if USA's curve looked like all the other countries here

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&casesMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=USA~FRA~DEU~CAN~ITA~JPN~NOR~FIN~DNK~CHE~ES P~AUT&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[boutons_deux]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1282740341838405634

Fuck your happytalk "belief" and "confidence",

it's totally useless against the pandemic

How will you communicate, transmit your guidelines to 10Ks of school districts?

Any Federal $$$ to help schools (and health care) operate in the pandemic?

[DMC]

Is that a quote or just something some crybaby fed you?

How many dead children is acceptable to you?

As long as you kill them before birth it's okay.

[Spurtacular]

As long as you kill them before birth it's okay.

Even during on approved procedures.

[DMC]

either "there is a number of anecdotes" or "there are numbers of anecdotes

number(s) is operative, not anecdotes

In short, if I say, "There is a number of reasons written on the paper," expect to see a figure such as 5, 12, or 67. If I say, "There are a number of reasons written on the paper," expect to see the reasons themselves. And if I say, "There's a number of reasons written on the paper," well, it really depends on just how casual I'm being with my speech — but don't expect me to use it in earnest in formal written English. There are a number of reasons I wouldn't.

[RandomGuy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1282740341838405634

Another tweet and can't and won't bother reading.

Devoss said that something like .02% of kids would be killed. I put a number to it.

11,400 dead children

That is the acceptable figure for the adminstrations stated policy goal, stated explicitly by the administration official in charge of that area.

[RandomGuy]

As long as you kill them before birth it's okay.

Nobody kills children before birth.

[Winehole23]

In short, if I say, "There is a number of reasons written on the paper," expect to see a figure such as 5, 12, or 67. If I say, "There are a number of reasons written on the paper," expect to see the reasons themselves. And if I say, "There's a number of reasons written on the paper," well, it really depends on just how casual I'm being with my speech — but don't expect me to use it in earnest in formal written English. There are a number of reasons I wouldn't.good 1

[TSA]

Another tweet and can't and won't bother reading.

Devoss said that something like .02% of kids would be killed. I put a number to it.

11,400 dead children

That is the acceptable figure for the adminstrations stated policy goal, stated explicitly by the administration official in charge of that area.

The tweet is the head of the CDC saying it's a greater health risk to keep kids out of school than sending them. Saying you can't read them is lazy. Copy and paste the link in a new window after you quote me and say you "can't" read it.

[Winehole23]

The tweet is the head of the CDC saying it's a greater health risk to keep kids out of school than sending them. Saying you can't read them is lazy. Copy and paste the link in a new window after you quote me and say you "can't" read it.Is the CDC or the Trump Administration doing anything to make schools safer, or it just wishing them well from afar?

[RandomGuy]

The tweet is the head of the CDC saying it's a greater health risk to keep kids out of school than sending them. Saying you can't read them is lazy. Copy and paste the link in a new window after you quote me and say you "can't" read it.

Doesn't work either. Not sure why and don't particularly care to bother with tweets. I am actually pretty darn happy I can't see them, so that isn't going to change.

:lol :spin from someone saying what the administration tells them to. another fucking fail from your failed heros failure of an administration.

What is the administration plan to keep kids safe?

I'm sure there is some well-reasoned, thoughly detailed set of guidelines.

Either produce a detailed thorough set of guidelines for safety, or it is another concrete, irrefutable example of bungling by the con man whose boots you lick.

[Spurs Homer]

As long as you kill them before birth it's okay.


as opposed to;

letting them live long enough to take their health care away and THEN watch them suffer and die?


no better

[RandomGuy]

Going to guess I am going to be waiting for that plan.

Anyone?

[RandomGuy]

So now, instead of going to experts at the CDC...

Hospitals have to report directly to the Trump administration in Washington. I am going to guess this is the first step in absolutely politicizing the data, and selectively presenting it, with the actual data hidden from the public.


Trump administration orders hospitals to send coronavirus data to Washington, not the CDC
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/15/trump-administration-orders-hospitals-not-send-covid-19-data-cdc/5441730002/

TSA polish this turd. :lol

[tholdren]

Another tweet and can't and won't bother reading.

Devoss said that something like .02% of kids would be killed. I put a number to it.

11,400 dead children

That is the acceptable figure for the adminstrations stated policy goal, stated explicitly by the administration official in charge of that area.

You've been wrongdomGuy the whole time. Kids were going to school for 3 months before shut downs. Kids are going back to school all over the world.

Your math is terrible.

You have said Texas would be out of hospitals by last Monday.


Stop your gossip

[RandomGuy]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list. :lol Still trying so desperately. Shields up and holding, captain, maintaining steady course.

[midnightpulp]

So now, instead of going to experts at the CDC...

Hospitals have to report directly to the Trump administration in Washington. I am going to guess this is the first step in absolutely politicizing the data, and selectively presenting it, with the actual data hidden from the public.


Trump administration orders hospitals to send coronavirus data to Washington, not the CDC
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/15/trump-administration-orders-hospitals-not-send-covid-19-data-cdc/5441730002/

TSA polish this turd. :lol

Even more worrisome. The data WON'T be made public.

1283210829366779904

This is an absolutely inexcusable move by the Trump administration.

[baseline bum]

Even more worrisome. The data WON'T be made public.

1283210829366779904

This is an absolutely inexcusable move by the Trump administration.

Fuck this country. We're a third world shithole.

[boutons_deux]

A dangerous new chapter of the outbreak:

Every state for itself

Cash-strapped cities and states trying to create testing, tracing and public awareness campaigns from scratch are desperate for federal support.

Leaving the nation's coronavirus fight to individual states has created gaping holes in the public health response that have allowed the infection rate to soar and death rates to rise once again.

While countries like

New Zealand and Germany have taken a unified national approach to fighting the virus

— and are enjoying the fruits of a successful mitigation strategy

— the Trump administration’s federalist philosophy has helped create chaos across the South and West.

“Every governor is out there on his or her own working to build the same programs that are being built next door,”

“The federal government’s efforts range from a little bit of backup to not even being present.”

“Until we control this virus as a nation, the economy can’t fully recover. Where is the national plan?”

“How can you have national success without having a national plan?”

“How do you fight the worst pandemic in 100 years without a coordinated strategy?”

public health experts say much more federal support and leadership are needed to bring the outbreak under control — and keep it that way.

“We shut down the country for three months and we could have used that time for all kinds of planning and preparing, and we did not use it at all,” :lol iow, shutdown WASTED.

the virus is spreading northward into the heartland and industrial Midwest, erasing the progress made in March, April and May while the country was locked down.

Pence, have warned that the government’s Strategic National Stockpile is only a stopgap —

and that states themselves are primarily responsible for securing masks, gowns, gloves and chemicals for testing on the open market.

the lack of stronger federal oversight has made it hard to maintain some of those gains.

labs say they are having trouble getting basic supplies.

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown says her state's testing capacity has been overwhelmed by the recent surge in infections

the federal government’s failure to fully use the Defense Production Act to increase available supplies and coordinate their distribution has put states like Washington in the “horrible position” of competing against one another

The testing problems are also hampering the country’s scattered and overwhelmed contact tracing efforts.

“You need federal leadership, and that’s been lacking,”

Testing and contact tracing are the cornerstones of the test-trace-isolate strategy that governments have used to thwart infectious disease outbreaks since the 19th century.

the shortage of tracers is allowing the state’s outbreak to spiral out of control.

the lack of coordinated national coronavirus messaging has been compounded in states like Texas where governors, following Trump’s lead, took a laissez faire approach until cases skyrocketed.

“There’s just been a leadership void at the federal level,”

“We have pushed everything down to the states and

then conservative states, like Texas, have just pushed all that decision-making down to the local level. …

Every day that we go with a crisis and without a plan is another day lost.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/states-look-to-trump-for-a-national-plan-to-fight-coronavirus-361906?cid=apn

Trash wants no testing, so of course no DPA to support testing

[Trill Clinton]

1283422597661757440

[boutons_deux]

Trump wanted to ‘slow’ coronavirus testing —

and is now trying to block testing funding from stimulus bill


Trash falsely believes that COVID-19 testing is the cause of the spread of coronavirus,

instead of a measure of reality.

“When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people.

You’re going to find more cases.

So I said to my people slow the testing down please,”

“If we didn’t do testing, we’d have no cases,”

“The Trump administration is trying to block billions of dollars for states to conduct testing and contact tracing in the upcoming coronavirus relief bill,

“The administration is also

trying to block billions of dollars that GOP senators want to allocate for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and

billions more for the Pentagon and State Department to address the pandemic at home and abroad,”

“The administration’s posture has angered some GOP senators,

the officials said, and some lawmakers are trying to push back and ensure that the money stays in the bill,”

the conflict between Trump administration officials and Senate Republicans on money for testing and other priorities is creating a major complication

even before bipartisan negotiations get under way.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-wanted-to-slow-testing-and-is-now-trying-to-block-testing-funding-from-stimulus-bill-report/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/18/white-house-testing-budget-cdc-coronavirus/

Trash does EVERYTHING wrong, destructively, mortally wrong

40% approval

[RandomGuy]

White House objects to Senate GOP push for more CDC money for coronavirus testing and tracing

Washington, DC (CNN)The White House is pushing back against Senate GOP requests to significantly ramp up funding for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for coronavirus contact tracing and testing, a position that puts them at odds with lawmakers from both parties amid the surge of Covid-19 cases now paralyzing parts of the country.

Some Senate Republicans are pushing for more money for the efforts in the next round of stimulus spending, but the White House argues that there is sufficient funding still remaining from the March stimulus law, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told CNN on Saturday.

wow.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/18/politics/cdc-funding-white-house-senate-republicans/index.html

[RandomGuy]

Add to that taking over the virus data from teh CDC:

Trump Administration Push To 'Consolidate' CDC Data Worries Public Health Experts

Until now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has collected important information about COVID-19 hospitalizations and equipment from around the country. The Trump Administration now says hospitals must stop reporting that data to the CDC and instead send information to a different federal database.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/16/891777308/trump-administration-push-to-consolidate-cdc-data-worries-public-health-experts


There isn't really any good reason I have heard for this step.

Seems like the only obvious reason is to hide the data from the public.

[RandomGuy]

1283422597661757440

There is a slam dunk lawsuit for you. Republican science-denialism is getting to be downright deadly.

[RandomGuy]

The Bungling continues.... Trump holds his first briefing since April.

Thing is he starts talking, and it is hard to take anything he says as truthful. This percent, that percent, "supplies are available" etc. Dude shit his credibility years ago.

[RandomGuy]

DkShd_l0YwE

wow.

just.... wow.

[RandomGuy]

So much bungling, so hard to sum up.

So we pretty much know that the snakeoil doesn't work. Or maybe demon seed does?
Trump trots out a real nutter as proof his snakeoil works.

jrwDp2tdzIg

Donald Trump: "I think it's under control."
Interviewer: "How? A thousand Americans are dying a day."
Donald Trump: "They are dying. That's true. And you — it is what it is."


just ....wow.

[Reck]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BitesizedHelplessAmethystinepython-size_restricted.gif

Basically Trump on that last interview. :lol

[Spurs Homer]

but-but

her emails!!!!!



:cry:cry:cry

[RandomGuy]

but-but

her emails!!!!!



:cry:cry:cry

Fun thing about the Trump's presidency is that there is a vast pile of easy counter examples to any bad thing that Republicans can run against just about any Democrat.

"X is bad"

"you didn't say X was bad when Trump did it, here are a bunch of examples"

Makes it a lot easier out point out the hypocrisy.

The emails are a really good example, because Jared/Ivanka and Trump himself are all using unsecured phones and servers to communicate.

[RandomGuy]

May 2018

The Administration disbands the White House pandemic response team.

July 2019

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency left her post, and the Administration decided to eliminate the role.

October 2019

“Currently, there are insufficient funding sources designated for the federal government to use in response to a severe influenza pandemic.” [Crimson Contagion exercise findings]

January 22

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

January 24

Trump praises China’s handling of the coronavirus: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

January 30

"The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on US soil,...This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.” [Memo from Trump Trade Advisor Peter Navarro]

February 2

“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 10

“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”

February 10

“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

February 24

“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25

“CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25

“I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26

“The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26

“We're going very substantially down, not up.”

February 26

“Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”

February 26

"This is a flu. This is like a flu."

February 27

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28

“We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

March 2

“You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2

“A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4

“Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild.”

March 4

“If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5

“I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5

“The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6

“I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6

“You have to be calm. It’ll go away.”

March 6

“Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6

“I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6

“I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 7

“When we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”

March 7

“No, I’m not concerned at all.

March 8

“We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9

During a news conference, White House officials say the U.S. will have tested one million people that week and thereafter would complete 4 million tests per week. By the end of the week, the CDC had only completed a paltry 4,000 tests.

March 9

“This blindsided the world.”

March 10

“Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11

“It goes away….It’s going away. We want it to go away with very, very few deaths.”

March 12

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, tells Congress that the country does not have sufficient testing. “The system is not really geared to what we need right now,” he said. “That is a failing. Let’s admit it.”

March 12

"You know, you see what's going on. And so I just wanted that to stop as it pertains to the United States. And that's what we've done. We've stopped it."

March 13

“I don’t take responsibility at all.”

March 13

The Atlantic reported that less than 14,000 tests had been done in the ten weeks since the administration had first been notified of the virus, though Mike Pence had promised the week prior that 1.5 million tests would be available by this time.

March 14

“I’d rate it a ten,” [Trump’s rating of his coronavirus response]

March 15

“Relax”

March 15

“This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

March 16

“Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment-try getting it yourselves,”

March 17

“The only thing we haven’t done well is get good press.”

March 17

“I felt like it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”

March 20

“I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say. I think it's a very nasty question, and I think it's a very bad signal that you're putting out to the American people." [Response to reporter’s question: "What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?"]

March 22

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF.”

March 24

“I'm also hopeful to have Americans working again by that Easter - that beautiful Easter day.”

March 24

“We’ve never closed down the country for the flu,” Trump said. “So you say to yourself, what is this all about?”

March 24

“They have to treat us well, also. They can’t say, ‘Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.’”

March 25

“The faster we go back, the better it’s going to be.”

March 26

“Congratulations AMERICA!” [On Senate passage of third relief bill]

March 26

“I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

March 26

“We’ve had a big problem with the young, a woman governor from — you know who I’m talking about — from Michigan,”

March 27

“I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude!”

March 27

“Mike, don’t call the governor of Washington. You’re wasting your time with him…”

March 27

“I want them to be appreciative. We've done a great job.”

March 27

“We’re doing a great job for the state of Washington and I think the Governor...he’s constantly chirping and I guess complaining would be a nice way of saying it.”

March 29

“Where are the masks going? Are they going out the back door? How do you go from 10,000 to 300,000?”

March 29

“Unfortunately the enemy is death. It's death. A lot of people are dying. So it's very unpleasant.”

March 30

"Stay calm, it will go away. You know it -- you know it is going away, and it will go away, and we're going to have a great victory."

March 30

“I think New York should be fine, based on the numbers that we see, they should have more than enough. I mean, I’m hearing stories that they’re not used or they’re not used right.”

March 30

“I haven’t heard about testing in weeks. We’re testing more than any other nation in the world. We’ve got these great tests...But I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”

March 30

“We inherited a broken test — the whole thing was broken.”

March 31

“...it’s not the flu. It’s vicious.”

April 1

“They have to treat us well, also. They can’t say, ‘Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.’”

April 2

“Massive amounts of medical supplies... are being delivered directly to states...Some have insatiable appetites & are never satisfied (politics?). The complainers should have been stocked up and ready long before this crisis hit.”

April 2

“...the Federal Government is merely a back-up for state governments.”

April 3

“I’m feeling good. I just don’t want to be doing -- somehow sitting in the Oval Office behind that beautiful resolute desk, the great resolute desk, I think wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, I don’t know, somehow I don’t see it for myself. I just don’t. Maybe I’ll change my mind.”

April 5

“FEMA, the military — what they’ve done is a miracle...And you should be thanking them for what they’ve done, not always asking wise-guy questions.”

April 6

“LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!”

April 6

U.S. death toll passes 10,000

April 7

"So, you know, things are happening. It's a -- it's -- I haven't seen bad. I've not seen bad."

April 7

"You are not going to die from this pill...I really think it's a great thing to try."

April 7

“That was a flu. OK. So you could say that I said it was a flu, or you could say the flu is nothing to -- sneeze at," [Regarding Spanish Flu]

April 8

"I read about it maybe a day, two days ago,...It was a recommendation that he had, I think he told certain people on the staff, but it didn't matter. I didn't see it." [Regarding Peter Navarro’s January warning]

April 9

“I couldn’t have done it any better,” [When asked if his coronavirus response could have been better]

April 11

U.S. death toll passes 20,000

April 13

“But I guess I'm doing OK, because, to the best of my knowledge, I'm the President of the United States, despite the things that are said."

April 14

“Enough!” [When a reporter questioned his claim that his authority as president is “total”]

April 14

“[w]hen somebody’s the president of the United States, the authority is total.”

April 15

U.S. death toll passes 30,000

April 15

As Trump focuses on reopening, a leaked CDC and FEMA report warns of “significant risk of resurgence of the virus” with phased reopening.

April 19

“Now we’re going toward 50, I’m hearing, or 60,000 people [dead from the coronavirus]”

April 22

“If [coronavirus] comes back though, it won’t be coming back in the form that it was, it will be coming back in smaller doses that we can contain….it’s also possible it doesn’t come back at all.”

April 23

"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

April 23

“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way…”

April 23

“You see states are starting to open up now, and it’s very exciting to see,”

April 23

26 million jobless claims

April 24

U.S. death toll passes 50,000

April 26

“The people that know me and know the history of our Country say that I am the hardest working President in history.”

April 27

"I can't imagine why," [Regarding influx in poison control calls about disinfectant]

April 29

“It’s gonna go away, this is going to go away.”

May 3

“Look, we're going to lose anywhere from 75,000, 80,000 to 100,000 people,”

May 5

U.S. death toll passes 70,000

May 5

Consumer debt hits an all-time high

May 5

“Well run States should not be bailing out poorly run States, using CoronaVirus as the excuse!”

May 5

“I always felt 60, 65, 70, as horrible as that is. I mean, you’re talking about filling up Yankee Stadium with death! So I thought it was horrible. But it’s probably going to be somewhat higher than that,”

May 5

“There’ll be more death, that the virus will pass, with or without a vaccine. And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal,”

May 5

“I don’t want to be Mr. Gloom-and-Doom. It’s a very bad subject,...I’m not looking to tell the American people when nobody really knows what’s happening yet, ‘Oh, this is going to be so tragic.’”

May 6

Brookings reports that children were “experiencing food insecurity to an extent unprecedented in modern times” and “40.9 percent of mothers with children ages 12 and under reported household food insecurity since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.” Republicans block proposals to expand food stamps.

May 6

“Sporadic for you, but not sporadic for a lot of other people.” [In response to a nurse telling him that equipment supply has been “sporadic”]

May 7

33 million jobless claims

May 8

“This is going to go away without a vaccine. It is going to go away. We are not going to see it again.”

May 9

“This is going to go away without a vaccine.”

May 11

“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere. Big progress being made!”

May 11

“We have met the moment and we have prevailed,”

May 14

“Could be that testing’s, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated.”

May 14

“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing,”

May 15

“Vaccine or no vaccine, we’re back. And we’re starting the process. In many cases, they don’t have vaccines and a virus or a flu comes and you fight through it.

May 16

“We’ve done a GREAT job on Covid response, making all Governors look good, some fantastic (and that’s OK), but the Lamestream Media doesn’t want to go with that narrative, and the Do Nothing Dems talking point is to say only bad about “Trump”. I made everybody look good, but me!”

May 18

U.S. death toll passes 90,000

May 19

“When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing,...Because it means our testing is much better. I view it as a badge of honor, really, it's a badge of honor.”

May 21

USA Today reports that mortgage delinquencies surged by 1.6 million in April, the largest single-month jump in history.

May 22

38 million jobless claims

May 27

U.S. death toll passes 100,000

May 29

“We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization”

June 6

U.S death toll passes 110,000

June 6

“Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that’s happening for our country...This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality.”

June 15

“At some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.”

June 17

“It’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.”

June 18

“And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.”

June 20

"Testing is a double-edged sword,...When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases, so I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.'"

June 22

U.S death toll passes 120,000

June 23

“Cases are going up in the U.S. because we are testing far more than any other country, and ever expanding. With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!”

June 23

"It's going away,"

June 25

“The number of ChinaVirus cases goes up, because of GREAT TESTING, while the number of deaths (mortality rate), goes way down. The Fake News doesn’t like telling you that!”

June 25

“Coronavirus deaths are way down. Mortality rate is one of the lowest in the World. Our Economy is roaring back and will NOT be shut down. “Embers” or flare ups will be put out, as necessary!”

June 30

U.S. has just 4% of the global population, but 25% of global coronavirus cases and the second highest death rate per capita.

July 1

“I think we’re going to be very good with the coronavirus.” “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope.”

July 6

U.S. death toll passes 130,000

July 7

"I think we are in a good place."

July 7

The president predicted that in the next two to four weeks, "I think we're going to be in very good shape."

July 8

“In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November election, but it is important for the children & families. May cut off funding if not open!”

July 8

“I disagree with @CDCgov on their very tough & expensive guidelines for opening schools. While they want them open, they are asking school [sic] to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!”

July 18

U.S. death toll passes 140,000

July 19

“I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world”

July 19

“Many of those cases are young people that would heal in a day”

“They have the sniffles, and we put it down as a test”

July 21

"You will never hear this on the Fake News concerning the China Virus, but by comparison to most other countries, who are suffering greatly, we are doing very well - and we have done things that few other countries could have done!”

July 28

U.S. death toll passes 150,000

July 28

"He's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration -- with respect to the virus?" (Trump referring to Anthony Fauci)

August 1

“Wrong! We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases,” (Donald Trump in a retweet of Anthony Fauci saying the U.S. has seen more cases than European countries because it only shut down a fraction of its economy amid the pandemic)

August 3

"I think we are doing very well and I think ... as well as any nation,"

August 3

"They are dying. That's true. And you — it is what it is.”

August 3

“OPEN THE SCHOOLS!!!”

August 3

“Right now I think it’s under control.”

August 3

“You know, there are those that say you can test too much, you do know that.”

August 5

“If you look at children, children are almost - and I would almost say definitely - but almost immune from this disease.”

August 5

“We’re supplying the world now with ventilators. You go back four months, we didn’t have any” - Fox and Friends

August 5

“It will go away like things go away”

https://doggett.house.gov/media-center/blog-posts/timeline-trump-s-coronavirus-responses

[Winehole23]

Maybe bungling the response is the strategy now. To screw the incoming majorities.

[boutons_deux]

Maybe bungling the response is the strategy now. To screw the incoming majorities.

Repugs blocked their own stimulus plan after Obama won, keeping the economy bad so Obama would lose in 2012.

Repugs didn't/don't care about they deaths and pain that they visit on the non-oligarchy as the Repugs play

All Bad Faith, Smash Mouth, Hardball Politics, All The time.

They know they must hang on to the Senate to block Dem House and WH, and will blame the Dems for all the shit that the Repugs shit on America for years.

[RandomGuy]

Maybe bungling the response is the strategy now. To screw the incoming majorities.

One has to wonder.

[tholdren]

0 hospitals over capacity....

[ChumpDumper]

Best part of foldren's day is celebrating COVID deaths.

[Winehole23]

Trump's UI EOs are vaporware.


“States are going broke and millions of Americans are unemployed, yet the solution calls for states to create a new program we can’t afford to begin with and don’t know how to administer because of this uncertainty,” said Phil Murphy, the governor of New Jersey, at a news briefing this week.https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/08/11/trump-unemployment-aid-congress/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_bailouthill-6p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

[Spurs Homer]

what is the count on the trump virus?

what is the trump death toll now?

176,000?

[Spurminator]

Burn this fucking party down.

1297547642961002497

[Spurs Homer]

Burn this fucking party down.

1297547642961002497


they should have asked a second question

were 4 us deaths at benghazi acceptable?

[spurraider21]

death cult

[Winehole23]

aLL LIvEs MatTeR

[DarrinS]

How many beghathis ith it now guyth? Durrrherrr

[DMC]

Burn this fucking party down.

1297547642961002497

aka post more and retweet shit you find appalling that supports your stance.

Wondering if the 10% of dems who find it acceptable are the leadership in NY. They had 33K deaths and somehow they are heroes and successful.

[ElNono]

How many beghathis ith it now guyth? Durrrherrr

Now Benghazi is a nothingburger? you hate to see it.

[DarrinS]

Now Benghazi is a nothingburger? you hate to see it.

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.

[ElNono]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.

Well, it's brought up because apparently when there's dead Americans due to alleged government incompetence, it merits Congressional investigations... sometimes 10 Congressional investigations.

There's been clear government incompetence with COVID and plenty American dead.

[Spurminator]

aka post more and retweet shit you find appalling that supports your stance.

Typical that your only reaction to the indefensible is to accuse the messenger of doing nothing but post.

You have no evidence that's the case, but it makes you feel good about lacking even the conviction to say this is fucked up. You're so desperate and insecure that even this strikes you as a possible "W" for the libs, and that bothers you more than 200K people dying.

You're sick.


Wondering if the 10% of dems who find it acceptable are the leadership in NY. They had 33K deaths and somehow they are heroes and successful.

Probably the same 10% of Dems that approve of Donald Trump in every poll.

The people who you think consider NY leadership "heroes" are the ones saying 176L deaths is unacceptable, so it's a pretty stupid red herring. But again, you'd rather change the subject than admit your comrades are fucking sociopaths.

[Spurminator]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.

Then why did you bring it up? To escape the responsibility of weighing in on 176K deaths? To avoid defending your side on an indefensible position?

You're a fucking coward.

[Spurs Homer]

177,000 deaths on trumps small hands

[boutons_deux]

well over 200K dead when 10Ks of excess deaths are counted. They are directly C19 deaths or resulting from The Trash-Made Pandemic.

The Trash pademic carnage continues.

Other countries has achieved flattened their deaths/million, while Trash's Pandemic continues to rise

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&country=USA~CHE~AUT~BEL~DNK~FIN~FRA~DEU~IRL~ITA~NO R~ESP~SWE~GBR&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[Winehole23]

art of the steal




Jared Kushner facilitated the delivery of 45 ventilators from Russia to the US earlier this year, two senior administration officials told The Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jared-kushners-private-channel-with-putins-money-man-kirill-dmitriev).
Those ventilators turned out to be faulty and were cast aside, local officials told the news outlet.
The report said that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's staffers were surprised to see the supplies arriving from Russia.
According to The Daily Beast, Kushner hurried the order along via a personal relationship with the CEO of a Russian sovereign wealth fund that's under US sanctions.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-sourced-covid-ventilators-from-russia-that-didnt-work-report-2020-8

[Spurs Homer]

178,000

1,000 per day -

its equal to 3-4 commercial airliners crashed and burned every day for months - killing all aboard -

all because the traitor got tired of working -

"but - but benghazi!"

[RandomGuy]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.


Kushner hurried the order along via a personal relationship with the CEO of a Russian sovereign wealth fund that's under US sanctions.

Keep ignoring the shit man. Someday, someone is going to follow the money, and your stupid ass is going to have to come face to face with how badly you were manipulated.

[spurraider21]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.
benghazi was something that was investigated 10x over and held over the dems head for over 4 years as a scandal due to stand-down orders, cover-ups, and lies... none of which was ever corroborated.

our national mishandling of the pandemic is ongoing and we are already one of the worst hit places on the planet despite having more time to prepare than our european counterparts. we're well on our way to surpassing even italy in deaths per capita, despite the fact that they got hit very hard very early on with much less information re: how to test/treat. i also dont know of any other country that actually reversed its trend of decreasing cases/deaths only to see them spike again. spain did see an uptick in cases after flattening it, but not nearly to the degree we did, and they havent had a second spike in deaths like we had. we have been uniquely incompetent to that end

the comparison is obviously not apples to apples because one is a contagious disease and one was a terrorist attack. its about the respective outrage, and most conservatives still think that the number of deaths we've faced is fine while they were still fuming over the NOT cover up/scandal of benghazi 4 years later (and probably still are to this day)

[boutons_deux]

Calls to poison control spike in Texas after residents take bleach to combat COVID-19

Months after Donald Trump’s suggestion that disinfectants could be a possible treatment for the novel coronavirus was found false,

some people are still ingesting disinfectants, including bleach.

While this may come as obvious information to some, officials with the North Texas Poison Center at Parkland Hospital

had to remind people in the area not to drink bleach following an increase in cases.
At least 46 cases of bleach ingestion were reported in North Texas since Aug. 1 :lol

The Texas Poison Center Network has seen a significant increase in calls related to ingesting cleaning products.

According to an infographic (https://media.wfaa.com/assets/WFAA/images/c11ec6b6-51aa-4085-9234-c3fa0ecd15d1/c11ec6b6-51aa-4085-9234-c3fa0ecd15d1_1920x1080.png) shared by the network,

the Texas Poison Center Network has seen a

71% increase in cases involving bleach and

a 63% increase involving other household cleaners

from the start of the pandemic compared to the same time period in 2019.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1972131

[boutons_deux]

C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing

The revision prompted confusion and alarm from experts, who called the move “potentially dangerous.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/health/covid-19-testing-cdc.html

That's CDC sucking up to Trash who wants less testing so fewer cases are found, even if he is LYING about cases.

[ChumpDumper]

Calls to poison control spike in Texas after residents take bleach to combat COVID-19

Months after Donald Trump’s suggestion that disinfectants could be a possible treatment for the novel coronavirus was found false,

some people are still ingesting disinfectants, including bleach.

While this may come as obvious information to some, officials with the North Texas Poison Center at Parkland Hospital

had to remind people in the area not to drink bleach following an increase in cases.
At least 46 cases of bleach ingestion were reported in North Texas since Aug. 1 :lol

The Texas Poison Center Network has seen a significant increase in calls related to ingesting cleaning products.

According to an infographic (https://media.wfaa.com/assets/WFAA/images/c11ec6b6-51aa-4085-9234-c3fa0ecd15d1/c11ec6b6-51aa-4085-9234-c3fa0ecd15d1_1920x1080.png) shared by the network,

the Texas Poison Center Network has seen a

71% increase in cases involving bleach and

a 63% increase involving other household cleaners

from the start of the pandemic compared to the same time period in 2019.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1972131


:lmao "like a cleaning"

[ChumpDumper]

C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing

The revision prompted confusion and alarm from experts, who called the move “potentially dangerous.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/health/covid-19-testing-cdc.html

That's CDC sucking up to Trash who wants less testing so fewer cases are found, even if he is LYING about cases.



This is the final white flag. Our testing is so pathetic we're not even going to try anymore.

[Will Hunting]

How many beghathis ith it now guyth? Durrrherrr
:lmao now that we know how frosty Karrin gets about it, the Benghazi math isn’t going away anytime soon.

[RandomGuy]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.

Covid killed about 200 Benghazis worth of people yesterday.

Can we have some hearings on that?

[Spurs Homer]

Covid killed about 200 Benghazis worth of people yesterday.
(while trump and the GOP spoke for hours on how the virus is behind us-thanks to Lord Trump!)

Can we have some hearings on that?



fify

[RandomGuy]

Was Benghazi a pandemic?

That's why the comparison is stupid.
Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/us/politics/jared-kushner-whatsapp.html

While we are at it... shouldn't we be looking into what kinds of classified materials have been passing over these servers?

Or is it ok with your dumb ass because your cult leader family is doing it?

[Spurs Homer]

182,000

lives on the hands of the great traitor -

piece of shit disgraceful russian asset.

[Splits]

1299585184162033666

:rolleyes

[boutons_deux]

The CDC’s testing guidance will make the pandemic worse

Centers for Disease Control updated its COVID-19 advice (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/health/covid-19-testing-cdc.html) to recommend fewer people get tested for the virus.

Now, it says (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/testing-overview.html) people without symptoms “do not necessarily need a test,”

even if they were directly exposed or attended a large gathering in a viral hotspot.

If it’s actually followed, the CDC’s advice will kill people.

The agency’s justification for its change is baffling. Admiral Brett Giroir, the US testing leader, said the agency (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-cdc.html) is applying guidance for doctors and frontline health workers to everyone in the country.

the value of testing was never letting individual people take big risks.

It’s valuable because it tells people when they need to isolate themselves and

warn their close contacts about exposure,

helping everyone else take the smaller risks that keep society functioning,

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/29/21404000/cdc-coronavirus-testing-guidance-asymptomatic-testing-bad-advice

[boutons_deux]

dickless lickspittles at FDA now even more corrupted

Trump's FDA "grossly misrepresented" data on blood plasma’s benefits in treating COVID-19 patients

Scientist call out Trump's FDA commissioner for “starting to exaggerate data”

https://www.salon.com/2020/08/29/trumps-fda-grossly-misrepresented-data-on-blood-plasmas-benefits-in-treating-covid-19-patients_partner/

[boutons_deux]

'Without evidence':

Once again, FDA expands use of COVID-19 treatment without research to back it up

late Friday :lol They bury on Friday late because they know their fucking up

allowed the drug remdesivir to be used on all patients hospitalized with COVID-19,

although no published research supports such widespread use.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/08/28/fda-ignores-science-expanding-remdesivir-treat-covid-19/5662305002/

[boutons_deux]

President Trump’s new top medical adviser,

Scott Atlas, is urging the White House to embrace a controversial “herd immunity” strategy to combat the pandemic.

It would entail allowing the coronavirus to spread through the population quickly (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/2b4d06d/5f4d5ce29d2fda2c36875497/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/9/55/e38550bb0d5ab47cac3949357257135f) to build resistance to the virus.

But it's still not clear whether people who recover from covid-19 gain long-term immunity, and

experts say the so-called “herd” approach would also lead to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of deaths.

-- WaPo email

Trash and his mafiya of sycophants are a death cult

40K new cases/day (CFR about 3%)

1000+ deaths/day

200K+ total deaths

and the Repugs say the pandemic is over. Vote for Trash and all Repugs.

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus vaccine could get emergency approval before critical testing is complete, FDA says

But public health officials have warned that approving vaccines too soon can be risky.

https://www.livescience.com/fda-coronavirus-vaccine-emergency-approval.html (https://www.livescience.com/fda-coronavirus-vaccine-emergency-approval.html?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22582&utm_content=20200831_Coronavirus_Infographic+&utm_term=194127&m_i=dStdkcYRaEkNjA%2BRYhDxdKtyRVMeAL3%2BceligA6QIr 99k4aAXX2E%2BMsBdHjisvnSvrQbo1OB28S8zLjMnhEGZzqsGL 3rEA)

So many ways the FDA/CDC Trash sychophants could, and probably, will continue TO FUCK UP and maim and kill more Americans, because the simply don't fucking care.

[Winehole23]

Sure, why not? Who's going to stop it?

[Spurs Homer]

184,000 deaths due to Trumps criminal negligence...

"but- but - HER EMAILS!!!!"

[Spurs Homer]

186,000 dead.

Adam Schiff warned the GOP (Govt of Putin) that trump could not be trusted and there was overwhelming evidence to convict the criminal traitor...


186,000 deaths now and blood on the hands of both the GOP and the Russian asset criminal...


you got what you paid for - didnt you, trump cultists?

[Spurs Homer]

190,000 dead americans

blood on the hands of every trump supporter, every GOP member and trump himself

but more of the blame goes to every retarded brainwashed cultist who enabled this criminal.


no different than the complicit germans who stood by for hitler

fuck you all to hell

[Spurtacular]

186,000 dead.

Adam Schiff warned the GOP (Govt of Putin) that trump could not be trusted and there was overwhelming evidence to convict the criminal traitor...


186,000 deaths now and blood on the hands of both the GOP and the Russian asset criminal...


you got what you paid for - didnt you, trump cultists?



190,000 dead americans

blood on the hands of every trump supporter, every GOP member and trump himself

but more of the blame goes to every retarded brainwashed cultist who enabled this criminal.


no different than the complicit germans who stood by for hitler

fuck you all to hell

4,000 Zombie Rapist points in six days. :lol

[Spurs Homer]

4,000 Zombie Rapist points in six days. :lol

190,000 is a joke to you - you brainwashed gullible moron

how many should he allow to die before the brainwashing eases?

will you take the cyanide capsule when dear leader orders you to?

i hope you bite down hard, cultist

[ChumpDumper]

4,000 Zombie Rapist points in six days. :lolderp laughs at the dead.

[Spurtacular]

190,000 is a joke to you - you brainwashed gullible moron

how many should he allow to die before the brainwashing eases?

will you take the cyanide capsule when dear leader orders you to?

i hope you bite down hard, cultist

190K Zombie Rapist points!

[Spurtacular]

derp laughs at the dead.

I believe you when you say you do that. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

I believe you when you say you do that. :tu:lmao you're still trying so hard to deny your name.

You laugh at the dead, derp.

I can quote it if you like.

Would you like that, derp?

[clambake]

:lmao you're still trying so hard to deny your name.

You laugh at the dead, derp.

I can quote it if you like.

Would you like that, derp?
STOP CALLING ME DERP!

[Spurtacular]

:lmao you're still trying so hard to deny your name.

You laugh at the dead, derp.

I can quote it if you like.

Would you like that, derp?

:cry "your name" that I stolez :cry

:lmao Derp

[ChumpDumper]

staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhp!:lmao you still don't know how nicknames work, derp.

[Spurtacular]

https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/8b/84/e2/8b84e2ec6900806828b1852f9daee865.jpg

[Spurtacular]

:lmao you still don't know how nicknames work, derp.

How long you going to be lashing out about all this, derp?

[ChumpDumper]

How long you going to be lashing out about all this, derp?I'll comment on your whining about being called derp as long as you whine about being called derp, derp.

[clambake]

:lmao you still don't know how nicknames work, derp.
It’s the funniest shit in this whole forum :lol

[ChumpDumper]

It’s the funniest shit in this whole forum :lolHe dun stoled it from someone else wot called me derp, so I stealed too and call HIM derp. Now no one can call me derp. I show him! I show them all!

[Spurtacular]

I'll comment on your whining about being called derp as long as you whine about being called derp, derp.

So, you'll be whining about this indefinitely. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

He dun stoled it from someone else wot called me derp, so I stealed too and call HIM derp. Now no one can call me derp. I show him! I show them all!

Giving someone the "nickname" derp is up there with nicknaming someone normie. You're so bitter about this, derp. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

So, you'll be whining about this indefinitely. :lmao:lmao you just admitted you'll be whining about your nickname forever.


Giving someone the "nickname" derp is up there with nicknaming someone normie. You're so bitter about this, derp. :lmao:lmao it's your nickname. Why does it bother you so much, derp?

[Spurtacular]

:lmao you just admitted you'll be whining about your nickname forever.

:lmao it's your nickname. Why does it bother you so much, derp?

Like Reck says. You bring nothing to the table, derp.

[ChumpDumper]

Like Reck says. You bring nothing to the table, derp.Quote where he says that about me and not you, derp.

Let's see it.

[Spurtacular]

Quote where he says that about me and not you, derp.

Let's see it.

I thought he did. I just figured he was talking about you when I hear someone talking about someone bringing nothing to the table. :lol

[Winehole23]

Sure, why not? Who's going to stop it?Vaccine manufacturers, possibly.


The CEOs of AstraZeneca, BioNTech, GlaxoSmithKline, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, Moderna, Novavax, Pfizer, and Sanofi, have made a historic pledge to the world, outlining a united commitment to uphold the integrity of the scientific process as they work towards potential regulatory filings and approvals of the first COVID-19 vaccines.

All nine CEOs signed the following pledge:

We, the undersigned biopharmaceutical companies, want to make clear our on-going commitment to developing and testing potential vaccines for COVID-19 in accordance with high ethical standards and sound scientific principles.

The safety and efficacy of vaccines, including any potential vaccine for COVID-19, is reviewed and determined by expert regulatory agencies around the world, such as the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). FDA has established clear guidance for the development of COVID-19 vaccines and clear criteria for their potential authorization or approval in the US. FDA’s guidance and criteria are based on the scientific and medical principles necessary to clearly demonstrate the safety and efficacy of potential COVID-19 vaccines. More specifically, the agency requires that scientific evidence for regulatory approval must come from large, high quality clinical trials that are randomized and observer-blinded, with an expectation of appropriately designed studies with significant numbers of participants across diverse populations.

Following guidance from expert regulatory authorities such as FDA regarding the development of COVID-19 vaccines, consistent with existing standards and practices, and in the interest of public health, we pledge to:

-- Always make the safety and well-being of vaccinated individuals our top priority.


-- Continue to adhere to high scientific and ethical standards regarding the conduct of clinical trials and the rigor of manufacturing processes.


-- Only submit for approval or emergency use authorization after demonstrating safety and efficacy through a Phase 3 clinical study that is designed and conducted to meet requirements of expert regulatory authorities such as FDA.


-- Work to ensure a sufficient supply and range of vaccine options, including those suitable for global access.



We believe this pledge will help ensure public confidence in the rigorous scientific and regulatory process by which COVID-19 vaccines are evaluated and may ultimately be approved.
https://www.pfizer.com/health/coronavirus/pledge

[boutons_deux]

"public confidence" in BigPharma? :lol

over the last 20 years from BigPharma's under-tested/self-tested shit, 100Ks dead, Ms damaged, $10Bs in fines, nobody goes to jail.

Tobacco is still legal, 300K+ tobacco deaths/year, while mj is Schedule I

[ChumpDumper]

I thought he did. I just figured he was talking about you when I hear someone talking about someone bringing nothing to the table. :lol:lol derp, you're admitting you hallucinate about men on your enemies list.

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp, you're admitting you hallucinate about men on your enemies list.

You don't bring anything to the table, derp. It is what it is.

[ChumpDumper]

You don't bring anything to the table, derp. It is what it is.You respond to pretty much anything I post and dedicate multiple threads to me.

And you can't stand it when I call you derp.

It is what it is.

Prove me right, derp.

[Spurs Homer]

You respond to pretty much anything I post and dedicate multiple threads to me.

And you can't stand it when I call you derp.

It is what it is.

Prove me right, derp.


”chumpette” thread #6,436 will be posting in 5,4,3.....


that’ll show you!

[clambake]

Classic derp surrender phrases

“You got no hand”

“Step up your game”

“You bring nothing to the table”

“Come to terms”


Lol the derp!

[Spurtacular]

You respond to pretty much anything I post and dedicate multiple threads to me.

And you can't stand it when I call you derp.

It is what it is.

Prove me right, derp.

:cry You don't like it when I insult you :cry

:lol Is that supposed to be a w for you, derp?

[ChumpDumper]

:cry You don't like it when I insult you :cry

:lol Is that supposed to be a w for you, derp?You're not even insulting me though.

It's just brain stem triggers from you now, derp.

Prove me right again.

[Spurtacular]

You're not even insulting me though.

It's just brain stem triggers from you now, derp.

Prove me right again.

I was stating your position, genius.

:lol Not even following along to the well-known template at this point.

[ChumpDumper]

I was stating your position, genius.

:lol Not even following along to the well-known template at this point.:lol you keep proving me right, derp.

Do it again.

Follow your template, derp.

[Spurtacular]

:lol you keep proving me right, derp.

Do it again.

Follow your template, derp.

You don't have to talk if you have nothing worthwhile to say.

[ChumpDumper]

You don't have to talk if you have nothing worthwhile to say.You don't have to reply to everything I post, derp.

Yet here you are.

Do it again, derp.

lol

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Moar idle chatter from derp.

[ChumpDumper]

^^^

Moar idle chatter from derp.:lol you're still responding, derp.

[Spurs Homer]

191,000 dead...

and...


lordy, there are tapes!

[ChumpDumper]

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HE KNEW
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[Will Hunting]

:lmao jesus he literally said "I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down"

Lincoln Project is going to have some fun with this one.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Biden can work that into answers to literally every debate question regarding COVID. He'll, he could work it into ANY debate answer.

[Spurs Homer]

Trump addresses cult after the “tapes” are out: “ who you gonna believe - ME - or your lying ears?”

CULT (tsa, derp, DMC, Qhris, et al) : “YOU dear leader! FAKE TAPES!!!”


this is why Hitler killed so many innocents.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao "drank the kool-aid"

How could he be so fucking stupid to say this to Woodward? He was talking to a fucking journalist :lmao

https://i.ibb.co/FVSmDGs/sdnj.png

[Spurs Homer]

I bet Woodward said something to trump to this effect to allow the recordings?

Trump: “ fuck you - you trashed me in your last book- now you want to quote me for another book?”

Woodward: “ c’mon- I’ll use a recorder so you can see that I am quoting you accurately- let the people hear your own voice so they know its NOT bullshit!”


Trump: “uh- ok”


:lol:lol:lol

[Spurminator]

:lmao "drank the kool-aid"

How could he be so fucking stupid to say this to Woodward? He was talking to a fucking journalist :lmao

https://i.ibb.co/FVSmDGs/sdnj.png

Sarah Huckabee Sanders: "He never said that."

[ChumpDumper]

:rollin
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[Will Hunting]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders: "He never said that."
Kellyanne Conway: "He was talking about Kool-aid and how he oftentimes drinks kool-aid to try and better understand how black people feel"

[ChumpDumper]

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Lordy
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[Spurminator]

In a non-banana-republic, non-garbage country, this shit would be impeachable.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump supporters here patiently awaiting the distribution of talking points they will use in response to the Woodward story.

I still think they'll take the Jessup route. Toilet paper and such.

[Will Hunting]

Trump supporters here patiently awaiting the distribution of talking points they will use in response to the Woodward story.

I still think they'll take the Jessup route. Toilet paper and such.
I think it'll just be another "He didn't mean what he said" excuse.

[Spurs Homer]

He knew on Feb 7th that YOUNG people were also at risk...


let that sink in.

[Spurminator]

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[Splits]

:lmao "drank the kool-aid"

How could he be so fucking stupid to say this to Woodward? He was talking to a fucking journalist :lmao

https://i.ibb.co/FVSmDGs/sdnj.png

Lordy!

If the Coloreds give him a larger vote share than '16 we should reduce their vote to 60%

[Splits]

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Woodward has 20 hours of tape :lmao

I can't believe every president gets duped by this guy. I think he wrote one love story to W but other than that there is no fucking good reason to talk to this guy on the record, much less on tape

[ChumpDumper]

Woodward has 20 hours of tape :lmao

I can't believe every president gets duped by this guy. I think he wrote one love story to W but other than that there is no fucking good reason to talk to this guy on the record, much less on tapeEven the first W book wasn't all that complimentary on the whole. I think he fawned over W's initial 9/11 response but I still do that tbh.

Det second one though....

[Splits]

“Rage” includes the first reported excerpts of letters Trump exchanged with Kim, and quotes Trump in his interviews with Woodward using expletives to defend their pen-pal relationship. Even as U.S. intelligence chiefs warn that North Korea is unlikely to ever surrender its nuclear weapons and that Trump’s approach is ineffective, the president told Woodward he is determined to stay the course and dismissively says the CIA has “no idea” how to handle North Korea.“I met. Big fucking deal,” Trump told Woodward, waving off criticism of his three face-to-face meetings with Kim (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-great-honor-in-a-bid-for-history-trump-flatters-north-koreas-totalitarian-leader/2018/06/11/22a4411c-6d8e-11e8-bf86-a2351b5ece99_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_51). “It takes me two days. I met. I gave up nothing.”

Foreign affairs experts say Trump gave up much — including by postponing and then scaling back the U.S. joint military exercises with South Korea that had long angered North Korea, as well as by granting Kim the international stature and legitimacy the North Korean regime has long craved.

Trump told Woodward he evaluates Kim and his nuclear arsenal like a real estate target: “It’s really like, you know, somebody that’s in love with a house and they just can’t sell it.”

Kim welcomed Trump’s overtures with over-the-top prose in letters. Kim wrote that he wanted “another historic meeting between myself and Your Excellency reminiscent of a scene from a fantasy film.” And he said his meetings with Trump were a “precious memory” that underscored how the “deep and special friendship between us will work as a magical force.”

In another letter, Kim wrote to Trump, “I feel pleased to have formed good ties with such a powerful and preeminent statesman as Your Excellency.” And in yet another, Kim reflected on “that moment of history when I firmly held Your Excellency’s hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the whole world watched with great interest and hope to relive the honor of that day.”

Trump was taken with Kim’s flattery (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/we-fell-in-love-trump-and-kim-shower-praise-stroke-egos-on-path-to-nuclear-negotiations/2019/02/24/46875188-3777-11e9-854a-7a14d7fec96a_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_59), Woodward writes, telling the author pridefully that Kim had addressed him as “Excellency.” Trump remarked that he was awestruck meeting Kim for the first time in 2018 in Singapore, thinking to himself, “Holy shit,” and finding Kim to be “far beyond smart.” Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed.

Trump did not share his letters to Kim — “Those are so top secret,” the president said — though Woodward writes that Trump sent Kim a copy of the New York Times featuring a picture of the two men on the front page. “Chairman, great picture of you, big time,” Trump wrote on the paper in marker. (Trump falsely boasted to Woodward: “He never smiled before. I’m the only one he smiles with.”)

:lmao this is unbelievable

the world's most murderous and despicable dictator... enjoying be called "Your Excellency"

[Spurminator]

Woodward has 20 hours of tape :lmao

I can't believe every president gets duped by this guy. I think he wrote one love story to W but other than that there is no fucking good reason to talk to this guy on the record, much less on tape

I mean, this is his SECOND book about Trump. Like, he's already been burned once. How fucking stupid is this guy?

If he's this unfiltered with Bob Woodward, imagine the shit he's telling Putin, Xi, Kim Jong-Un, etc.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao it's like a real life version of James Franco's character in The Interview

[Splits]

Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, is quoted by Woodward as saying, “The most dangerous people around the president are overconfident idiots,” which Woodward interprets as a reference to Mattis, Tillerson and former National Economic Council director Gary Cohn.Kushner was a frequent target of ire among Trump’s Cabinet members, who saw him as untrustworthy and weak in dealing with heads of states. Tillerson found Kushner’s warm dealings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “nauseating to watch. It was stomach churning,” according to Woodward.

Kushner is quoted extensively in the book ruminating about his father-in-law and presidential power. Woodward writes that Kushner advised people that one of the most important guiding texts to understand the Trump presidency was “Alice in Wonderland,” a novel about a young girl who falls through a rabbit hole. He singled out the Cheshire cat, whose strategy was endurance and persistence, not direction.

:lol Kuckner
:lol viewing global politics through the lens of a cartoon he watched tripping acid in college and felt enlightened by

[Will Hunting]

:lol damn, they put something together really quickly:

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[spurraider21]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders: "He never said that."
Kayleigh McEnany: that quote is out of context... and now to distract everybody, i'm going to read off the headlines of random news articles from the last 4 years that i think sound misleading, and then drop the mic and walk out of the room

[Splits]

Kayleigh McEnany: that quote is out of context... and now to distract everybody, i'm going to read off the headlines of random news articles from the last 4 years that i think sound misleading, and then drop the mic and walk out of the room

The funniest part of this is that nobody but Trump knows what's on those 20 hours of tapes, since he was ringing Woodward without supervision at 2am. So they can't deny any direct quotes without the fear of a tape coming out within minutes

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

The funniest part of this is that nobody but Trump knows what's on those 20 hours of tapes, since he was ringing Woodward without supervision at 2am. So they can't deny any direct quotes without the fear of a tape coming out within minutes

:lmao:lol you know Bob has them all cataloged in a DropBox folder he can just pull up on his phone when needed.

[boutons_deux]

In a non-banana-republic, non-garbage country, this shit would be impeachable.

"someone" has called the Dems the InAuthentic Opposition

With the oligarchy/Repugs destroying the America Of The People and the feckless, spineless, dickless Dems quietly doing nothing...

America is fucked and unfuckable

The Great American People have no path to retake America for themselves (if it every was theirs)

[boutons_deux]

Pelosi, if she weren't spinelessly complacent with "voting Trash out is punishment enough", would draw a LONG list of articles and impeach Trash again, and again.

[Spurminator]

Let me also say fuck Bob Woodward for holding onto a tape of the President of the United States expressing grave concerns privately about a deadly disease while publicly calling it a politically motivated overreaction. Thousands of lives might have been saved if he had released that in February, and enough pressure might have been put on the President to spark a thorough enough response (and responsible tone) that we could possibly be out of this whole thing by now.

But as usual, it's all about the book deal.

[Spurs Homer]

Let me also say fuck Bob Woodward for holding onto a tape of the President of the United States expressing grave concerns privately about a deadly disease while publicly calling it a politically motivated overreaction. Thousands of lives might have been saved if he had released that in February, and enough pressure might have been put on the President to spark a thorough enough response (and responsible tone) that we could possibly be out of this whole thing by now.

But as usual, it's all about the book deal.


i agree with ^

however...

the fucking disgraceful CULT would have still CHOSEN Trumps lies and gaslighting over the fucking tape


just watch how they wont abandon trump now - even if the death toll gets into the millions


this is why Hitler killed so many

the CULT

[Spurminator]

i agree with ^

however...

the fucking disgraceful CULT would have still CHOSEN Trumps lies and gaslighting over the fucking tape

He might have been forced to strike a more serious tone consistent with his own claims to Woodward.

Perhaps there would have been less gaslighting. Maybe MAGA masks would have been printed in March instead of July. Maybe instead of "Democrats are overreacting," his political strategy would have shifted to "Democrats aren't taking this seriously enough" and doing everything he can to encourage his cult to prove how they're doing more to prevent the spread of COVID than the libs, who are all out protesting unsafely. I much prefer that scenario.

[Will Hunting]

Pelosi, if she weren't spinelessly complacent with "voting Trash out is punishment enough", would draw a LONG list of articles and impeach Trash again, and again.
I don't see that doing much, I think she's smart to not do that between now and the election. If Trump wins a 2nd term then sure bury him under a mountain of impeachments, especially if the Dems have a senate majority so they can control those hearings.

[Spurs Homer]

Lets just be as truthful and as blunt as possible - despite the pearl clutching that will ensue over trump being caught on tape:


ANY human believing ONE word in February/March/April 2020 thru today

after hearing him spew 22000 lies to their face (from 2015 thru Feb 2020)



Is a fucking idiot.


I know I stopped believing ONE word that spews out of that orange sewer

in 2015.

[hater]

Lets just be as truthful and as blunt as possible - despite the pearl clutching that will ensue over trump being caught on tape:


ANY human believing ONE word in February/March/April 2020 thru today

after hearing him spew 22000 lies to their face (from 2015 thru Feb 2020)



Is a fucking idiot.


I know I stopped believing ONE word that spews out of that orange sewer

in 2015.

I nwver believed him on covid. Not one word

I never believed Facci either. Not one word. Not when he said masks were bad and nobody should wear them

Anything coming out of government (dems and repugs) from Jan 2020 to about now wqs mostly lies and falsehoods.

[Spurs Homer]

I nwver believed him on covid. Not one word

I never believed Facci either. Not one word. Not when he said masks were bad and nobody should wear them

Anything coming out of government (dems and repugs) from Jan 2020 to about now wqs mostly lies and falsehoods.


but you believe him on porn stars, babies in cages, russia treason, his tax records, his wealth, et al

because you are a fucking idiot.

[Dirks_Finale]

This is not even a story :lol

Pay attention to what he was doing the whole time and you realize it. He said many months ago he was a cheerleader for the country trying to avoid panic to avoid price gouging during PPE shortage. BTW, the guy y'all love (Fauci) was doing the exact same thing - downplaying it early on when he HAD to have known better as he is the infection control guy.

What Trump really deserves criticism for (and why he may ultimately lose this election) is his acting as a macho man the whole time, avoiding masks himself and not sending a clear message to avoid large gatherings and to wear masks when not social distancing. And his insistence that everybody get back to work by May 1st was complete B.S. and made him look incredibly callous, like someone only concerned about re-election and his economy. Trying to appease his nervous Wallstreet buddies... If the Biden campaign is smart, they stay on these points and don't let up.

[Will Hunting]

This is not even a story :lol

Pay attention to what he was doing the whole time and you realize it. He said many months ago he was a cheerleader for the country trying to avoid panic to avoid price gouging during PPE shortage. BTW, the guy y'all love (Fauci) was doing the exact same thing - downplaying it early on when he HAD to have known better as he is the infection control guy.

What Trump really deserves criticism for (and why he may ultimately lose this election) is his acting as a macho man the whole time, avoiding masks himself and not sending a clear message to avoid large gatherings and to wear masks when not social distancing. And his insistence that everybody get back to work by May 1st was complete B.S. and made him look incredibly callous, like someone only concerned about re-election and his economy. Trying to appease his nervous Wallstreet buddies... If the Biden campaign is smart, they stay on these points and don't let up.
Well, looks like the Colonel Jessup approach is what Trumptards are going with to defend Trump on this.

[hater]

but you believe him on porn stars, babies in cages, russia treason, his tax records, his wealth, et al

because you are a fucking idiot.

No idea what u babbling about ma nig.

Only thing I believe is shillary was gonna start another big war. So i went with peace

[RandomGuy]

This is not even a story :lol

Pay attention to what he was doing the whole time and you realize it. He said many months ago he was a cheerleader for the country trying to avoid panic to avoid price gouging during PPE shortage. BTW, the guy y'all love (Fauci) was doing the exact same thing - downplaying it early on when he HAD to have known better as he is the infection control guy.

What Trump really deserves criticism for (and why he may ultimately lose this election) is his acting as a macho man the whole time, avoiding masks himself and not sending a clear message to avoid large gatherings and to wear masks when not social distancing. And his insistence that everybody get back to work by May 1st was complete B.S. and made him look incredibly callous, like someone only concerned about re-election and his economy. Trying to appease his nervous Wallstreet buddies... If the Biden campaign is smart, they stay on these points and don't let up.

He deserves criticism because he did fuckall for months and didn't use the federal government to coordinate a nationwide, coherent response.

[Spurs Homer]

No idea what u babbling about ma nig.

Only thing I believe is shillary was gonna start another big war. So i went with peace


lol

”butter emails!”


of course

[ChumpDumper]

Well, looks like the Colonel Jessup approach is what Trumptards are going with to defend Trump on this.:lol called it

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Trumptards are OK with Trump being a "cheerleader" (Trump supporter words, not mine) who ignores facts and prefers blind optimism.

[Spurminator]

He said many months ago he was a cheerleader for the country trying to avoid panic

:lmao Reality TV President plays you like a fiddle.

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[boutons_deux]

"Let me also say fuck Bob Woodward for holding onto a tape of the President of the United States expressing grave concerns privately about a deadly disease "

Woodward, after 4 years of Trash's bullshit, absolutely knew Trash and his mafiya would deny it all, "out of context", etc, etc, and

attack Woodward in every which way, so the Trash cult mob sickos would ignore Woodward.

In any case, having gutted American pandemic preparedness for 3 years,

even if Trash had wanted to prepare and mobilize govt in Nov or Dec latest 2019,

he had NOTHING to work with.

And of course, for-profit, just-in-time, inventory-less American health care was totally unprepared.

We'll see if Trash can hold on to his 40%+ approval

If he does, then America is fucked and unfuckable, because Trumpism has, does, and will always fuck up America.

[hater]

lol

”butter emails!”


of course

What emails? She said it straight to the cameras :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao Trumptards are OK with Trump being a "cheerleader" (Trump supporter words, not mine) who ignores facts and prefers blind optimism.

which, once again, is absolute bullshit because he's been using language intent to panic this whole fucking time.

[ChumpDumper]

which, once again, is absolute bullshit because he's been using language intent to panic this whole fucking time.:lol his whole platform is The blacks I saved are coming to get you!

[ChumpDumper]

Of all the Trumptards posting here, Dirk (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54453)s_Finale might be the dumbest of all, mainly because he’s convinced himself that the reason he eats up every last retarded nugget of Trump’s bullshit is because he’s too smart to be conned.

”Cleary Trump is correct, because I believed him and I’m the smartest boy in the world!”:lmao

[RandomGuy]

I never believed Facci either. Not one word.

.. and that make you an idiot.

A drooling moron, shitting himself in the corner, and fingerpainting with the results.

There are very, very few experts in the field that know as much as or more than he does.

[Trainwreck2100]

Let me also say fuck Bob Woodward for holding onto a tape of the President of the United States expressing grave concerns privately about a deadly disease while publicly calling it a politically motivated overreaction. Thousands of lives might have been saved if he had released that in February, and enough pressure might have been put on the President to spark a thorough enough response (and responsible tone) that we could possibly be out of this whole thing by now.

But as usual, it's all about the book deal.

If he had an agreement with Trump not to release any of the interview before a certain time, I'm okay with it. Even if he didn't I'm okay with it, go out stack that paper Bobby.

[Spurs Homer]

Why is no media outlet calling into question the behavior of Pence?

the task force?

birx?
fauci?
azar?
redfield?


those complicit traitors knew the facts yet kept their mouths shut every day that trump and pence strolled up to the podium and spewed disinformation that caused hundreds of thousands of deaths?

why is no one calling out pence as second in command for his utter cowardice and negligence?

disgusting

[Spurs Homer]

The CDC cowards?
FDA?

NIH?


all those complicit cunts allowed trump to change their guidelines, change their health protocols, etc


many complicit in this tragedy

[Trainwreck2100]

The CDC cowards?
FDA?

NIH?


all those complicit cunts allowed trump to change their guidelines, change their health protocols, etc


many complicit in this tragedy
Turns out the Executive branch has a shitload of power over the executive agencies,

[DarrinS]

Kellyanne Conway: "He was talking about Kool-aid and how he oftentimes drinks kool-aid to try and better understand how black people feel"

Did you really take "drank the Kool-aid" as a racial slur? :lmao

[tholdren]

.. and that make you an idiot.

A drooling moron, shitting himself in the corner, and fingerpainting with the results.

There are very, very few experts in the field that know as much as or more than he does.

lololoolooool9loooolo

[Spurs Homer]

Turns out the Executive branch has a shitload of power over the executive agencies,


Who knew that our DOJ, Intel, Health , GOP, et al

were infested with cowards who do not understand or care about standing up AGAINST UNLAWFUL ORDERS???

[Will Hunting]

Did you really take "drank the Kool-aid" as a racial slur? :lmao
No Karrin, but cool strawman.

[DMC]

No idea what u babbling about ma nig.

Only thing I believe is shillary was gonna start another big war. So i went with peace

Well Donald was nominated for the Nobel peace prize tbh

[DarrinS]

No Karrin, but cool strawman.

Then, what's the issue?