what happens to the republican party

[RandomGuy]

:lol boebert/gaetz and mtg feuding

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/qYxWmkTxlYD7trt7YmymHA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY4MjtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/a194845a463043440ddf5ebd5405c294

Heh, you will know when you see it. hehehehe

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Kari Lake goes full bananapants,

calls herself the 'duly elected governor' of Arizona

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/5/2145527/-Kari-Lake-goes-full-bananapants-calls-herself-the-duly-elected-governor-of-Arizona

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House GOP Says Pentagon Budget Is Safe—But Social Security and Medicare Aren't

"House Republicans are openly plotting to hold the full faith and credit of the United States hostage—

threatening to blow up our entire economy—

because they want to force cuts to Social Security and Medicare,"

use their narrow majority in the House to pursue steep federal spending cuts have sent a clear message in recent days

"I'm all for a balanced budget, but we're not going to do it on the backs of our troops and our military."

"If we really want to talk about the debt and spending, it's the entitlement programs,"

there was broad agreement spending cuts should focus on NON-DEFENSE discretionary spending,"

https://www.commondreams.org/news/gop-pentagon-social-security-medicare

iow,

"we Repugs are so corrupted and financed by the MIC,

we will screw our WHITE POOR GOD-GUNS-GAY-ABORTION VOTERS

who are too stupid, too ignorant to stop voting TO BE SCREWED"

[boutons_deux]

infinite bullshit from Repugs

House GOP to focus COVID panel on virus origins, pandemic spending


the 12-member Select Committee on the Coronavirus Response will be charged with examining the origins of the pandemic, including federal funding of gain-of-function research.

the GOP would have the authority to lob subpoenas at the administration to force it to hand over documents,

Republicans have been frustrated with what they see as the administration’s unaccountable coronavirus spending and are looking to shine a spotlight on where the relief money has gone.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3807140-house-gop-to-focus-covid-panel-on-virus-origins-pandemic-spending

Repugs will NOT oversight Trash and his mafiya's BOTCHING, fatally, of the pandemic prep and mgmt, continuing to cause 100Ks of unnecessary deaths and diseases.

Nor will the investigate the $10Bs of FRAUD in 2020 under Repug Treasury, nor BigCorp that took $100Ms in PPP and then laid off 10Ks

[koriwhat]

infinite bullshit from Repugs

House GOP to focus COVID panel on virus origins, pandemic spending


the 12-member Select Committee on the Coronavirus Response will be charged with examining the origins of the pandemic, including federal funding of gain-of-function research.

the GOP would have the authority to lob subpoenas at the administration to force it to hand over documents,

Republicans have been frustrated with what they see as the administration’s unaccountable coronavirus spending and are looking to shine a spotlight on where the relief money has gone.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3807140-house-gop-to-focus-covid-panel-on-virus-origins-pandemic-spending

Repugs will NOT oversight Trash and his mafiya's BOTCHING, fatally, of the pandemic prep and mgmt, continuing to cause 100Ks of unnecessary deaths and diseases.

Nor will the investigate the $10Bs of FRAUD in 2020 under Repug Treasury, nor BigCorp that took $100Ms in PPP and then laid off 10Ks



Do you cry this much about nothing irl?

[boutons_deux]

Repug voter fraud, everywhere and always, only way they can win

Bibles can now vote in Kentucky

The genesis of the Faith-Based Voting Rights Act

The statute is the brainchild of Governor Canard, a lifelong evangelical and Republican.

He states Jesus spoke to him through a piece of toast a few months ago.

After Jesus demanded every King James Bible vote in Kentucky,

the LORD supposedly told the Governor to eat the slightly burnt toast in remembrance of Him.

“I had my very own communion ceremony in the breakfast nook,” Governor Canard stated.

“I washed down Jesus’ flesh with a shot of tomato juice.”

The bill was written up and overwhelmingly passed in the legislature.

Many state representatives and senators admit they didn’t read what they voting on.

They confess as long as it’s faith-based and biblical it’s a no-brainer.

https://onlysky.media/ahall/bibles-can-now-vote-in-kentucky (https://onlysky.media/ahall/bibles-can-now-vote-in-kentucky)

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Repug voters are suckers, marks to be grifted

Iowans give millions to controversial, right-wing led sheriffs’ group that spends only 34% on charity

https://www.rawstory.com/polk-county-sheriff

Corruption of law enforcement is systematic, NOT a few bad apples

[boutons_deux]

BREAKING NEWS




https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ubA57FGZEEvsLSTCdmIRfAe26ZaTqE6TowCG6IL7L1bkmHFF23 RsHk0BKu9xQ1BBkwQr_k_Mp4ahFb8Vwfd6VmQll-zyZAwjnWd2-WrQT3lxpQKtFv5fxyGpMdlMpz8GlhKYwcw62cjh0oSgxTocPxG RgNp7OyHlNbJi=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/01/10/multimedia/10dc-cong-01-vlbk/10dc-cong-01-vlbk-videoLarge.jpg (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/oxPqa2GIR81YxMeg4vrGmA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRloIEjP4QCAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMj MvMDEvMTAvdXMvcG9saXRpY3MvaG91c2UtcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1j b21taXR0ZWUtd2VhcG9uaXphdGlvbi1nb3Zlcm5tZW50Lmh0bW w_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MTkwJmVtYz1lZGl0X3Vmbl8yMDIzMDEx MCZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD04MjM3OCZubD1mcm9tLXRoZS10aW1lcy ZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTIyMTYyJnRl PTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYT U5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgpjtSP8vWPQnjo4UhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21h aWwuY29tWAQAAAAA)
Kenny Holston/The New York Times
(https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/oxPqa2GIR81YxMeg4vrGmA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRloIEjP4QCAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMj MvMDEvMTAvdXMvcG9saXRpY3MvaG91c2UtcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1j b21taXR0ZWUtd2VhcG9uaXphdGlvbi1nb3Zlcm5tZW50Lmh0bW w_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MTkwJmVtYz1lZGl0X3Vmbl8yMDIzMDEx MCZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD04MjM3OCZubD1mcm9tLXRoZS10aW1lcy ZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTIyMTYyJnRl PTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYT U5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgpjtSP8vWPQnjo4UhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21h aWwuY29tWAQAAAAA)


Divided House Approves G.O.P. Inquiry Into ‘Weaponization’ of Government

(https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/oxPqa2GIR81YxMeg4vrGmA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRloIEjP4QCAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMj MvMDEvMTAvdXMvcG9saXRpY3MvaG91c2UtcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1j b21taXR0ZWUtd2VhcG9uaXphdGlvbi1nb3Zlcm5tZW50Lmh0bW w_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MTkwJmVtYz1lZGl0X3Vmbl8yMDIzMDEx MCZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD04MjM3OCZubD1mcm9tLXRoZS10aW1lcy ZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTIyMTYyJnRl PTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYT U5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgpjtSP8vWPQnjo4UhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21h aWwuY29tWAQAAAAA)Republicans pushed through a measure to create a powerful new committee to scrutinize what they have charged is an effort by the government to target and silence conservatives.


-- NYTimes email

Benghazi on meth

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Alabama attorney general considering prosecuting women who take abortion pills

warning women in his state to not think they can get around the state's laws against abortion by taking abortion pills.

he was open to prosecuting women who take abortion pills

even though Alabama's abortion law explicitly targets abortion providers for prosecution and

says that women who receive abortions should not be subject to criminal charges.

https://www.alternet.org/alabama-attorney-general-abortion-pills/

Fuck the law, I do what Christ tells me to do

[boutons_deux]

shitbag for the Hill Country

Texas Republican wants to secure the border by defunding department tasked with border security


https://images.dailykos.com/images/1151456/story_image/GettyImages-1246130284.jpg?1673374108

the Texas Republican has introduced his own border security plan:

defund the department that oversees border security, apparently.

Roy urged his colleagues during a House speech Monday

“to stop funding a Department of Homeland Security that refuses to secure the border of the United States.”

He promised that the newly-empowered Republicans would do that “this year.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/10/2146457/-Texas-Republican-wants-to-secure-the-border-by-defunding-department-tasked-with-border-security

[boutons_deux]

C-SPAN Just Called Kevin McCarthy’s Transparency Bluff

cspan wants more cameras in the House. let's see what dickless, gutless, spineless KM does

[boutons_deux]

Accurate foreshadowing of inevitable Repug fascism

House GOP follows Monday’s

vote to protect the rich with

votes to protect the insurrectionists

they passed a rules package (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/9/2146322/-Live-coverage-House-GOP-makes-a-mockery-of-the-legislative-body) that guarantees more chaos and a government shutdown.

the motion to vacate the chair—it’s pretty much guaranteed that Kevin McCarthy’s hold on that gavel will be questioned.

also passed a series of budget rules that will guarantee a confrontation with the Democratic Senate and White House when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling and fund the government, guaranteeing a government shutdown.

that’s what they’re itching for—that fight.

And because they are so fiscally conservative, they also passed (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/9/2146347/-House-GOP-s-first-policy-vote-is-a-gift-to-wealthy-tax-cheats-securing-Biden-s-first-veto-threat) that

a bill to strip the IRS of the $70 billion it received last year in the big end-of-the-year funding package,

a move that would add $114 billion to the deficit over the next decade.

Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan’s new McCarthy-style witch trial committee

the “Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government,” in which they will weaponize the House against perceived political enemies.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/10/2146448/-McCarthy-s-miniscule-majority-marches-on-to-fascism-in-day-two-of-legislative-work

[boutons_deux]

Trump adviser claims Biden's classified docs are

possible blackmail plot against Merrick Garland

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/kash-patel.jpg?id=31044841&width=1200&height=675

Trump adviser Kash Patel asserted that

President Joe Biden may have stolen classified documents

to blackmail Attorney General Merrick Garland and

discourage him from prosecuting his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.rawstory.com/kash-patel-joe-biden-blackmail

[ChumpDumper]

Trump adviser claims Biden's classified docs are

possible blackmail plot against Merrick Garland

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/kash-patel.jpg?id=31044841&width=1200&height=675

Trump adviser Kash Patel asserted that

President Joe Biden may have stolen classified documents

to blackmail Attorney General Merrick Garland and

discourage him from prosecuting his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.rawstory.com/kash-patel-joe-biden-blackmail

lol wut

[boutons_deux]

lol wut

Among the Q weirdos and other right wing shit bags, this will be Bible truth, revealed by God.

How will Fox handle it?

Repugs and Fox are also repeatedly calling Biden "compromised"

I bet it's the strategy leading to impeaching, "performatively", Biden in the next couple years.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmTXbyiakAAdyT1?format=jpg&name=small"multicellular organism"

https://i.redd.it/vmqlv88nzsi91.jpg

[pgardn]

Go after both of them.
Restart all the shit the orange man has done and do a comparison.
Im loving this revelation and a good side by side look would be delicious.

[ChumpDumper]

1613608775713443840

[ElNono]

Symbolic Wyoming Proposal Urges Voluntary Phase-out of EV Purchases by 2035

Though the state of Wyoming is home to one of America's largest wind farms, "Wyoming's legislature is considering a resolution that calls for a phaseout of new electric vehicle sales (https://www.engadget.com/wyoming-wants-to-phase-out-sales-of-new-e-vs-by-2035-200704042.html) by 2035," reports Engadget: In the proposed resolution (https://wyoleg.gov/Legislation/2023/SJ0004), a group of lawmakers led by Senator Jim Anderson says Wyoming's "proud and valued" oil and gas industry has created "countless" jobs and contributed revenue to the state's coffers. They add that a lack of charging infrastructure within Wyoming would make the widespread use of EVs "impracticable" and that the state would need to build "massive amounts of new power generation" to "sustain the misadventure of electric vehicles." SJ4 calls for residents and businesses to limit the sale and purchase of EVs voluntarily, with the goal of phasing them out entirely by 2035.

If passed, the resolution would be entirely symbolic. In fact, it's more about sending a message to EV advocates than banning the vehicles altogether. To that point, the final section of SJ4 calls for Wyoming's Secretary of State to send President Biden and California Governor Gavin Newsom copies of the resolution. "One might even say tongue-in-cheek, but obviously it's a very serious issue that deserves some public discussion," Senator Boner, one of the bill's co-sponsors, told the Cowboy State Daily (https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/01/13/take-that-california-wyoming-legislators-draft-resolution-banning-electric-vehicles-by-2035/). "I'm interested in making sure that the solutions that some folks want to the so-called climate crisis are actually practical in real life. I just don't appreciate when other states try to force technology that isn't ready."

:lol Wyoming
:lol the party of triggering dem libs
:lol have nothing better to do
:lol that's gonna show em!

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325432824_849708452981246_2327486664668710122_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Hu2ZCS1U7rkAX8W8dMk&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AfDwCTCpO67eMD-h1GKdVB1JJZAMczhOBp6IQfeagojRbA&oe=63CA5E96

[SpursforSix]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325432824_849708452981246_2327486664668710122_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Hu2ZCS1U7rkAX8W8dMk&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AfDwCTCpO67eMD-h1GKdVB1JJZAMczhOBp6IQfeagojRbA&oe=63CA5E96

Why would the Repugs stick their hands up a uterus?

[Winehole23]

Who's policing free speech and ideology at universities, now?

DeSantis and the State of Florida.

1614373827596664834

[boutons_deux]

Justifying Attack on Social Security,

House Republican Claims People 'Want to Work Longer'

"Republicans want you to work until you die.

Republican Rep. Rick Allen of Georgia (fuck the Confedracy)

suggested last week that he would support

raising the Social Security retirement age—

a policy change that would slash benefits (https://www.cbpp.org/blog/raising-social-securitys-retirement-age-cuts-benefits-for-all-retirees) across the board—

because people have approached him and said

they "actually want to work longer." :lol LIAR

https://www.commondreams.org/news/social-security-house-republican

People on AA don't WANT to work longer, they MUST work longer since SS is so shitty. But of course, in your 60s and 70s, no jobs are available and/or at minimum wage

[boutons_deux]

'Lying doesn't matter anymore':

Former Republican congressman on how politics changed in the Santos era

former Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-VA) attacked the contemporary Republican Party (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/) as being meaningless when it comes to the truth.

I don't know where you can work, draw a paycheck let alone be paid by taxpayers, other than the Republican Party in Congress (https://www.rawstory.com/george-santos-oversight-committee/). What does that say?"

"I think what you're seeing with Santos and it's other people, too,

if you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, :lol

the lies have been so normalized, the base doesn't care. :lol nor does the Capitalist oligarchy

They just care about who is voting for what.

Lying doesn't matter anymore.

I've always said the two-party system wouldn't survive social media.

I thought the fringes would get their moment.

I don't know how we get out of this right now

because Santos is voting the way he wants certain people to vote.

He voted for McCarthy for Speaker.

His lies, his immoralities, his different names (https://www.rawstory.com/george-santos-2659215562/), all that stuff doesn't matter (https://www.rawstory.com/george-santos-fraud/) to these individuals,

because it's about the party over country, every single time."

https://www.rawstory.com/george-santos-does-lying-matter/ (https://www.rawstory.com/george-santos-does-lying-matter/)

[boutons_deux]

House Republicans Strike Out As

The Secret Service Doesn’t Keep Visitor Logs For Any President’s Private Home

https://www.politicususa.com/2023/01/16/biden-visitor-logs-secret-service.html

=================

Trump White House can keep president's visitors log a secret, appeals court rules



In its ruling, the court said that disclosing the names of visitors "would affect a president's ability to receive unfettered, candid counsel from outside advisors and leaders, both domestic and foreign."


https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-white-house-can-keep-presidents-visitors-a-secret-2020- (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-white-house-can-keep-presidents-visitors-a-secret-2020-5)5

[boutons_deux]

Pandering to the anti-democratic, fascist Christian Nationalists

Delusional Marjorie Taylor Greene Vows That

House Republicans Will Deliver God’s Vengeance

https://www.politicususa.com/2023/01/16/marjorie-taylor-greene-gods-vengeance.html

MTG is now normalized in the shithole Repug House

[boutons_deux]

Kari Lake demands judge appoints her AZ Governor -

or America will become Venezuela

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/14/2147149/-Kari-Lake-demands-judge-appoints-her-AZ-Governor-or-America-will-become-Venezuela

[boutons_deux]

Repug Schutzstaffel news

Texas brewery 'inundated' with threats after canceling Kyle Rittenhouse appearance (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/15/2147359/-Texas-brewery-inundated-with-threats-after-canceling-Kyle-Rittenhouse-appearance)


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/15/2147359/-Texas-brewery-inundated-with-threats-after-canceling-Kyle-Rittenhouse-appearance

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Repugs with their never-ending FUCK YOU, AMERICA

George Santos gets two committee assignments

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3816976-george-santos-gets-two-committee-assignments

[benefactor]

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/greene-reinstated-committee-gop-led-190953246.html

As expected, the retards are talking over the group home.

[boutons_deux]

House GOP lays groundwork for Mayorkas impeachment as moderates balk
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/politics/alejandro-mayorkas-house-republicans-impeachment-plans/index.html

[boutons_deux]

MTG, Gosar, Santos epitomize how degraded the Repugs have become

I don't expect the Repugs to ascend, only descend further, to pander to their fascist Capitalists BigDonor class and their anti-American base.

It’s MTG’s House

As recently as 2019, Republicans were able to draw lines. After Iowa’s

notorious Steve King

publicly embraced white supremacy, the GOP hesitated only momentarily before kicking him off committees and, ultimately, consigning him to political oblivion. (https://substack.com/redirect/e4185b80-4c97-4ba3-bdf5-796804677fab?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU)

What a difference a few years makes. Via NBC: (https://substack.com/redirect/c1424aa4-6c4b-43e8-8664-6fbcf400eb52?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU)


The GOP Steering Committee, which doles out committee gavels and seats, voted to give

Greene and Gosar spots on the Oversight and Accountability Committee,

which plans to launch numerous investigations into President Joe Biden and his administration (https://substack.com/redirect/635c3630-5f89-483b-a604-d0ee4d2308cb?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU)…




Greene also won a seat on the Homeland Security Committee, which Republicans will use to focus on border security and to investigate Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.




The folks at the Defend Democracy Project remind us who we’re talking about here: (https://substack.com/redirect/7b89b037-2cd0-47b4-b550-10b691c75fcd?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU)


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Is A Far Right Conspiracy Theorist Who Was Part Of The January 6 Plot And Now Serves On The Homeland Security And Oversight Committees...

In addition to her other conspiracies, racist remarks, and wild accusations, Greene relentlessly (https://substack.com/redirect/5c0d25d7-31c9-4b22-b370-a851d94e4086?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU) spread lies about the 2020 election being “stolen” and was a key figure working in Congress to overturn the results in Donald Trump’s favor….



Rep. Paul Gosar Plotted With Trump To Overturn The 2020 Election. Rep. Paul Gosar was a ringleader in the plot to overturn the election far beyond his vote (https://substack.com/redirect/5c2967cc-1c06-41e6-bc3b-6f3cefe18d90?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU) not to certify electors on January 6….



Gosar has a long history (https://substack.com/redirect/b765cfbf-7e3c-4ffb-aef0-467eaafec628?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU) of collaborating with white nationalists and far right extremists, and

several of his own estranged siblings (https://substack.com/redirect/976d2dce-3d65-480b-9453-2511d6461b41?j=eyJ1IjoiMWZqdXAifQ.FYr037SZpEb9gOSZ kAKhq3u2rKuQEifgPkcMJGkwloU) have referred to him as a “traitor to his country” and called for his removal from the House.


-- Charlie Sykes substack

Sooner or later, such anti-democratic, FASCIST ilk will control all 3 branches.

[boutons_deux]

Culture warrior, still intends to punish Disney with state power for a LEGAL Disney political stance Desantis doesn't like.

Textbook fascism

DeSantis pushes to permanently ban Covid-19 mandates in Florida

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/politics/desantis-covid-policy-florida/index.html



... excellent tactic in a state with Ms of vulnerable old people. Repugs, The Party of Death

[boutons_deux]

Only a Handful of People Attended This Anti-Trans Rally

With Marjorie Taylor Greene



https://www.them.us/story/marjorie-taylor-greene-rally-transphobia

[boutons_deux]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ First Priority as Governor?

Banning the Term “Latinx”

https://www.them.us/story/sarah-huckabee-sanders-latinx

[boutons_deux]

Repugs, The Party of Anti-Semitism

'right-wing Republicans have their fingerprints all over the rise of antisemitism'

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/american-fascists-explain-how-ironic-racism-acted-as-a-gateway-to-extremist-hate.jpg?id=24835030&width=1200&height=645

“Over three-quarters of Americans, 85 percent, believe at least one anti-Jewish trope, as opposed to 61 percent found in 2019.”

Rubin blames far-right MAGA Republicans and their “kooky conspiracy theories” for the increase in antisemitism in the U.S.

specific examples of “antisemitic tropes” that the ADL cited in its report, including the claims that

American Jews are “clannish” and are

“more loyal to Israel than the United States.”

“How many times have you heard Republicans, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy,

prattle on about George Soros, a Jewish Hungarian immigrant,

as if he is the chief string-puller controlling the Democratic Party?

Trump, meanwhile, routinely demonizes Jewish Democrats for not supporting him and the Israeli government.”

the entire project of white Christian nationalism is to marginalize those who are not White and/or not Christian as something less than real Americans.

More than one-third of those who responded to the ADL survey said,

‘Jews do not share my values.’

the right wing considers Jews as much a threat to their vision of democracy as immigrants from Central America.

Hatred of ‘elites’ and suspicion about urban dwellers often is a thinly disguised swipe at Jews.

‘New York values’ is often the buzz phrase.”

“That antisemitism has roared back with a vengeance is

thanks mainly to a party that embraces white Christian nationalism and kooky conspiracy theories,”

https://www.rawstory.com/scathing-column-declares-right-wing-republicans-have-their-fingerprints-all-over-the-rise-of-antisemitism/

Repugs will continue to be antisemites, racist, transphobic, xenophobic, LGBT-phobic, non-Christian-phobic,

to pander to their hate-rotten voters

[boutons_deux]

Newly elected GOP lawmaker in

Idaho :lol

compares reproductive rights to milking cows



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/17/2147653/-Newly-elected-GOP-lawmaker-in-Idaho-compares-reproductive-rights-to-milking-cows

[boutons_deux]

Schutzstaffel terrorist news

'Senseless acts of vandalism':

Officials investigate arson at Illinois Planned Parenthood

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/17/2147659/--Senseless-acts-of-vandalism-Officials-investigate-arson-at-Illinois-Planned-Parenthood

[boutons_deux]

Missouri Republicans are upset with the will of their voters,

so they plan to change the rules

most recently by dragging their feet and then pushing back against Medicaid expansion (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-12-03/missouris-slow-moving-medicaid-expansion-sparks-criticism).

Republican elected officials saw the future of what a strong ballot initiative could do to so many of their proposals and they didn’t like it (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article270215757.html).

Most of these proposals, like Medicaid expansion and marijuana legalization (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article270215757.html), are bipartisan in nature and the campaigns welcome members of both parties.

in a deep dive, the Kansas City Star found that

Missouri Republicans voiced serious concerns about how easy it is to influence Missouri voters to pass ballot initiatives and undo Republicans’ work. (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article269733961.html)

This is significantly different from the influence that, say, groups like the

American Legislative Exchange Council,
Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC),
anti-abortion organizations,
the NRA, and
numerous other conservative lobbying organizations

have at the state level. :lol All those groups corrupt legislature with $Ms

One way to kill new proposals is to change the votes needed to succeed.

In Missouri, (https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/missouri-state-house-measure-make-it-harder-amend-state-constitution/63-fa427003-f3f0-45e0-a3d5-884de6a7185c)the measure to use is to change the fact you need a majority of all registered voters whether they vote or not.

This proposed change would make it nearly impossible to pass any voter-supported initiative,

as numerous voters never vote in any election despite being registered.

By moving the goalposts in this way, Republicans believe that they have a chance to end voter participation in their government.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/17/2147669/-Missouri-Republicans-are-upset-with-the-will-of-their-voters-so-they-plan-to-change-the-rules

Repugs are pervasively ANTI-democracy. Fuck 'em all

[Winehole23]

1616096634919690242

[Winehole23]

Poor people shouldn't have white bread and fresh meat, according to the Iowa GOP.

Lol refried beans and pinto beans.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4BXtWXEAIA2Ip?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.axios.com/local/des-moines/2023/01/19/iowa-republicans-snap-restrictions-medicaid-program

[spurraider21]

:lmao

1616607063932534784

[Winehole23]

Poor people shouldn't have white bread and fresh meat, according to the Iowa GOP.

Lol refried beans and pinto beans.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4BXtWXEAIA2Ip?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.axios.com/local/des-moines/2023/01/19/iowa-republicans-snap-restrictions-medicaid-programBelieve it or not, entitlements and cash transfers are smart spending. The ARA child credit was another sterling example.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm9-kA1X0AERr-w?format=jpg&name=large

[boutons_deux]

Repugs want ALL poor to "have skin in the game",

but IA poor cannot have any "meat in the game"

about 300K Iowans are on food stamps, and not all of them are brown and wanting refried frijoles

Repugs, the Party of Sadism and of NO Redeeming Qualities

"Cruelty Is The Point" -- Adam Serwer

[Adam Lambert]

1617574789740216337

[boutons_deux]

House Republicans Are Threatening To Kill PBS

House Republicans are talking about trying to cut Social Security, but they also want to gut PBS.

https://politicususa.substack.com/p/house-republicans-are-threatening

Repugs, the party/mob of fascist shitbags

[boutons_deux]

GA Rep has bill to abolish nearly all taxes with a 30% national sales tax.

My guess he is not going to charge 30% sales tax when you buy stocks, bonds, etc.

[boutons_deux]

"What we need is more jail time for six-year-olds, and less gun control."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/22/2148272/--What-we-need-is-more-jail-time-for-six-year-olds-and-less-gun-control

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz Gets Eaten Alive By His Own Classified Documents Hypocrisy

TED CRUZ: The FBI needs to search the University of Delaware and Hunter Biden's home and business addresses

LARRY KUDLOW: What about Pence, a friend of both of ours, who found classified documents in his home?

CRUZ: Oh look, Mike Pence has explained where these came from

https://www.politicususa.com/2023/01/24/ted-cruz-gets-eaten-alive-by-his-own-classified-documents-hypocrisy.html

[Winehole23]

Rep. Waltz threatening to drop the hammer on DirecTV for dropping Newsmax

1618611218700435456

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnaYbx1WQA0Dupq?format=jpg&name=large

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYP7vwwojOA

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYP7vwwojOA

:lmao why are they setting themselves up for this?

[spurraider21]

:lmao why are they setting themselves up for this?
unresolved case of trump derangement syndrome

[ChumpDumper]

unresolved case of trump derangement syndrome

That or they are looking to fire Claypool.

[CosmicCowboy]

FWIW that 30% sales tax proposed by that whacko was just dumb as shit. It would NEVER have any chance to pass and just gives dumbshits like Boutons and the curly headed snuff queen ammunition to hysterically claim that it is Republican policy which its not. Just like "cutting social security and medicare" which also aren't policy.

[ChumpDumper]

FWIW that 30% sales tax proposed by that whacko was just dumb as shit. It would NEVER have any chance to pass and just gives dumbshits like Boutons and the curly headed snuff queen ammunition to hysterically claim that it is Republican policy which its not. Just like "cutting social security and medicare" which also aren't policy.

What is the Republican platform?

[boutons_deux]

"cutting social security and medicare"

... is EXACTLY what many Repugs want to do. Not policy, YET, but it is their objective

When Repugs House and Senate, they WILL cut SS and Medicare, and raise the barriers to Medicaid and SS disability

Cruelty Is The Point -- Adam Serwer

[Winehole23]

FWIW that 30% sales tax proposed by that whacko was just dumb as shit. It would NEVER have any chance to pass and just gives dumbshits like Boutons and the curly headed snuff queen ammunition to hysterically claim that it is Republican policy which its not. Just like "cutting social security and medicare" which also aren't policy.Sure they are. Republican jihad against the administrative state.

Government bad!

[CosmicCowboy]

So you guys want to talk about Social Security and Medicare? Rational people know that the 16% of your salary dollars that has gone to the federal government all these years was immediately spent by the federal government and replaced by IOU's. Even if you assume those IOU's can be replaced with dollars as promised without causing more inflation they will still run out of money in ten years or so.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for our government to address this issue in a bipartisan way now?

If they don't, the only way they will be able to keep paying the promised inflation adjusted benefits will be to either raise the hell out of taxes on you guys or keep borrowing/printing money to pay the promised benefits causing more inflation and more negative income growth.

It seems like you guys that are going to be hit with this would want to talk about it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you guys want to talk about Social Security and Medicare? Rational people know that the 16% of your salary dollars that has gone to the federal government all these years was immediately spent by the federal government and replaced by IOU's. Even if you assume those IOU's can be replaced with dollars as promised without causing more inflation they will still run out of money in ten years or so.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for our government to address this issue in a bipartisan way now?

If they don't, the only way they will be able to keep paying the promised inflation adjusted benefits will be to either raise the hell out of taxes on you guys or keep borrowing/printing money to pay the promised benefits causing more inflation and more negative income growth.

It seems like you guys that are going to be hit with this would want to talk about it.

That narrative is nice and all but if you think the GOP is going for anything other than tax cuts for their elites you are kidding yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

So you guys want to talk about Social Security and Medicare? Rational people know that the 16% of your salary dollars that has gone to the federal government all these years was immediately spent by the federal government and replaced by IOU's. Even if you assume those IOU's can be replaced with dollars as promised without causing more inflation they will still run out of money in ten years or so.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for our government to address this issue in a bipartisan way now?

If they don't, the only way they will be able to keep paying the promised inflation adjusted benefits will be to either raise the hell out of taxes on you guys or keep borrowing/printing money to pay the promised benefits causing more inflation and more negative income growth.

It seems like you guys that are going to be hit with this would want to talk about it.
One thing at a time.

What is the Republican platform?

[CosmicCowboy]

Chump still trying to "win".

[ChumpDumper]

Chump still trying to "win".I asked you a simple question regarding a claim you made about your political party.

If you think you're losing because of that, that's your problem.

I'll ask again.

What is your Republican party's platform?

[CosmicCowboy]

I didn't make a "claim" about either party but apparently both parties are too scared to touch that "third rail" and will just kick it down the road. It will take a bipartisan approach to solve the problem so it probably won't happen.

[CosmicCowboy]

Why don't you try to have an intelligent conversation for once instead of trying to play "gotcha".

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't make a "claim" about either party but apparently both parties are too scared to touch that "third rail" and will just kick it down the road. It will take a bipartisan approach to solve the problem so it probably won't happen.
Here is where you claim what is not Republican "policy":

FWIW that 30% sales tax proposed by that whacko was just dumb as shit. It would NEVER have any chance to pass and just gives dumbshits like Boutons and the curly headed snuff queen ammunition to hysterically claim that it is Republican policy which its not. Just like "cutting social security and medicare" which also aren't policy.
I don't understand why you can't be honest about what you posted mere hours ago.

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn you are dense. Neither party has an established policy to address social security and medicare.

There may be people on both sides that have expressed opinions but opinions are not policy.

[ChumpDumper]

Damn you are dense. Neither party has an established policy to address social security and medicare.Sure. I can't find any actual "established policy" regarding any issue for your party at all.

[CosmicCowboy]

Sure. I can't find any actual "established policy" regarding any issue for your party at all.

Which is exactly what I said initially that you wanted to argue about.

[ChumpDumper]

Which is exactly what I said initially that you wanted to argue about.No, that is not what you said initially. You said there was no Republican policy regarding only two issues -- even though prominent individual Republicans are indeed talking about those policies.

I just quoted what you said. I suggest you go back and read it then start over. You're lost in your own dishonesty.

[CosmicCowboy]

Fuck you chump. I said they didn't have a policy on social security and medicare which was undeniably true. You straw manned the rest.

If in YOUR WORDS they don't have any policies then they can't have a policy on social security and medicare.

[ChumpDumper]

Fuck you chump. I said they didn't have a policy on social security and medicare which was undeniably true. You straw manned the rest.

If in YOUR WORDS they don't have any policies then they can't have a policy on social security and medicare.I didn't straw man anything.

I never disputed your party had no policy on those issues.

Your party has no policy on ANY issue -- so the policy initiatives from prominent individuals in your party have much more weight. Prominent individuals in your party indeed have policies concerning social security and medicare.

Or do you want to lie about that too?

[CosmicCowboy]

So why does curly and Biden keep saying over and over that republican policy is to cut social security and medicare?

[ChumpDumper]

So why does curly and Biden keep saying over and over that republican policy is to cut social security and medicare?

Show me the quotes.

If you find quotes of his saying Republicans want to cut your social security/medicare -- that's completely true.

[CosmicCowboy]

What is Chumps idea to save social security and medicare?

[CosmicCowboy]

What is the democrats policy to save social security and medicare?

[ChumpDumper]

What is Chumps idea to save social security and medicare?


What is the democrats policy to save social security and medicare?

Show the quotes or say you have none, CC.

It's your claim. Back it up.

[CosmicCowboy]

They are constantly saying Republicans want to cut social security and medicare which you have already admitted is not Republican policy.

I dont have to "show you the quote" unless you are going to lie and say they don't say it.

[ChumpDumper]

They are constantly saying Republicans want to cut social security and medicare which you have already admitted is not Republican policy.

I dont have to "show you the quote" unless you are going to lie and say they don't say it.Now you are changing your claim.

More dishonesty.

You will not back up your claim.

Why did you even start in with this if you immediately shut down under the smallest amount of scrutiny?

[ChumpDumper]

So why does curly and Biden keep saying over and over that republican policy is to cut social security and medicare?


Show me the quotes.

If you find quotes of his saying Republicans want to cut your social security/medicare -- that's completely true.

You're stuck with your claim.

Either back it up or back down.

[CosmicCowboy]

You're stuck with your claim.

Either back it up or back down.

Hahahahahha

Chump inventing shit to "win" again. Pathetic.

[CosmicCowboy]

What is Chumps idea to save social security and medicare?

Coward

[ChumpDumper]

Hahahahahha

Chump inventing shit to "win" again. Pathetic.


Coward
Sorry, you have a claim you need to back up or retract.

Don't be a coward. Man up and take responsibility for what you said.

[CosmicCowboy]

What is this fucking "claim" you keep blathering about?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol How many times do you have to be spoon fed your own words, Junior?
So why does curly and Biden keep saying over and over that republican policy is to cut social security and medicare?
Show the quotes.

[CosmicCowboy]

If its not Republican policy as you already agreed, then the statement that "Republicans will cut social security and medicare" is just an outright lie turned into a repetitive talking point to give rubes like you something to repeat.

[Blake]

Oh the CC rodeo is in town

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh the CC rodeo is in town

And the village idiot chimes in.

[ChumpDumper]

If its not Republican policy as you already agreed, then the statement that "Republicans will cut social security and medicare" is just an outright lie turned into a repetitive talking point to give rubes like you something to repeat.No, it's absolutely true since there are Republican lawmakers who actually say they want to cut social security and medicare and there is no stated party platform to contradict it.

[Winehole23]

wants to bring the two sides closer by separating them.

good story!


Nowhere is Arizona’s political divide (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/04/arizona-gop-turning-point-usa/?itid=lk_inline_manual_19) more evident than on the floor of the state House, where Republicans and Democrats once sat alongside each other. A new seating chart took effect this session that put GOP members on one side of the chamber and Democrats on the other.

House Majority Whip Rep. Teresa Martinez (R), who crafted the chart, said she wanted to “surround people with experience and trusted faces they already knew.” She later told The Post the plan could encourage bipartisanship by prompting members from both parties to literally cross the aisle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/27/arizona-republicans-division/

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnnIhqCX0AAp7oH?format=jpg&name=small

[CosmicCowboy]

No, it's absolutely true since there are Republican lawmakers who actually say they want to cut social security and medicare and there is no stated party platform to contradict it.

"Some Republicans" :lmao

And rubes like Chump echo Curly's talking points like good little clones.

[ChumpDumper]

"Some Republicans" :lmao

And rubes like Chump echo Curly's talking points like good little clones.

Still waitng for your quotes, Karen.

I'll just assume you will remain a scared pussy and await your next hissy fit.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

Chump desperate for an imaginary "win"

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Chump desperate for an imaginary "win"

You just tried to declare victory, Karen.

It's not my fault you fucked yourself with your own words. Be better.

Do you have any quotes or not?

I say you don't and just lied. You lie a lot.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao @ Chump declaring "victory".

You are too predictable.

Sad life as an internet warrior :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

So you guys want to talk about Social Security and Medicare? Rational people know that the 16% of your salary dollars that has gone to the federal government all these years was immediately spent by the federal government and replaced by IOU's. Even if you assume those IOU's can be replaced with dollars as promised without causing more inflation they will still run out of money in ten years or so.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for our government to address this issue in a bipartisan way now?

If they don't, the only way they will be able to keep paying the promised inflation adjusted benefits will be to either raise the hell out of taxes on you guys or keep borrowing/printing money to pay the promised benefits causing more inflation and more negative income growth.

It seems like you guys that are going to be hit with this would want to talk about it.

Back to my original post

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao @ Chump declaring "victory".

You are too predictable.

Sad life as an internet warrior :lol
:lmao you're the one declaring victory

:lmao now you're admitting you lied.

Back to my original post
Now you're lying about what your original post was.

Are you this dishonest IRL?

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao still at it. Pathetic need for a "win".

And I'm not declaring "victory". I'm just laughing at you.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao still at it. Pathetic need for a "win".

And I'm not declaring "victory". I'm just laughing at you.

:lolAll you had to do was admit you fucked up with your stupidly narrow claim and you could've moved on.

Instead, you decided you had to soil your Depends all weekend and throw a hypocrisy cherry on top.

It's hilarious what a little bitch you are when you know you're wrong.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lolAll you had to do was admit you fucked up with your stupidly narrow claim and you could've moved on.

Instead, you decided you had to soil your Depends all weekend and throw a hypocrisy cherry on top.

It's hilarious what a little bitch you are when you know you're wrong.

Its hilarious how you want to turn everything into an argument while never posting anything of value or content. Its all about the "win". What a pathetic life.

[ChumpDumper]

Its hilarious how you want to turn everything into an argument while never posting anything of value or content. Its all about the "win". What a pathetic life.It's not about any win. I just wanted to see how long I could get you to shit yourself before admitting you were simply wrong.

You're still shitting yourself.

Why?

What do you get out of shitting yourself for three days?

[CosmicCowboy]

Because I wasn't wrong, dumbass. Your parroting curly's claim that "Republicans will cut social security and medicare" is what is wrong. They don't have the balls to do it and the Speaker of the House has specifically said thats off the table.

[Blake]

Because I wasn't wrong, dumbass. Your parroting curly's claim that "Republicans will cut social security and medicare" is what is wrong. They don't have the balls to do it and the Speaker of the House has specifically said thats off the table.

Angry blurb "Lol chump trying to declare victory" while you declare victory in the same breath

You're a moron

[CosmicCowboy]

Angry blurb "Lol chump trying to declare victory" while you declare victory in the same breath

You're a moron

Ahh Blake sucking off Chump. How cute.

[ChumpDumper]

CC soothing himself with his homophobia.

[CosmicCowboy]

CC soothing himself with his homophobia.

I'm perfectly fine with Blake sucking you off. :lol No homophobia here.

[CosmicCowboy]

So you guys want to talk about Social Security and Medicare? Rational people know that the 16% of your salary dollars that has gone to the federal government all these years was immediately spent by the federal government and replaced by IOU's. Even if you assume those IOU's can be replaced with dollars as promised without causing more inflation they will still run out of money in ten years or so.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for our government to address this issue in a bipartisan way now?

If they don't, the only way they will be able to keep paying the promised inflation adjusted benefits will be to either raise the hell out of taxes on you guys or keep borrowing/printing money to pay the promised benefits causing more inflation and more negative income growth.

It seems like you guys that are going to be hit with this would want to talk about it.

Notice how Chump avoids rational conversations? It seems like you guys would want to discuss this.

[Blake]

Notice how Chump avoids rational conversations? It seems like you guys would want to discuss this.

We'd all have to assume your facts are straight first. That's how rational discussions work.

[CosmicCowboy]

We'd all have to assume your facts are straight first. That's how rational discussions work.

:lmao

Seriously? I knew you were dumb but thats some pretty basic stuff.

[Blake]

:lmao

Seriously? I knew you were dumb but thats some pretty basic stuff.

And yet you still can't get it right

[CosmicCowboy]

And yet you still can't get it right

Ok cuck. What does your pea brain think was wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

Notice how Chump avoids rational conversations? It seems like you guys would want to discuss this.I wanted to discuss the claim you made and failed to back up but you can't stop crying like a bitch and praying you can distract us with your homosexual fantasies about us.

[CosmicCowboy]

I wanted to discuss the claim you made and failed to back up but you can't stop crying like a bitch and praying you can distract us with your homosexual fantasies about us.

:lmao

Still jonesing for that message board "win".

What a loser.

[Blake]

Ok cuck. What does your pea brain think was wrong?

You didn't back up your claim. You don't get to talk out of your ass but try to present it as fact and then expect a rational discussion about it.

[CosmicCowboy]

You didn't back up your claim. You don't get to talk out of your ass but try to present it as fact and then expect a rational discussion about it.

What claim, cuck? You are a fucking idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

What claim, cuck? You are a fucking idiot.

Are you really this stupid? You need to be spoon fed a third time?

Why are still shitting yourself?

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm not shitting myself at all. I have already answered your bullshit "claim" pages ago. If you want "links" you are shit out of luck. Im in Colorado on my phone and I am under no obligation to research what is common knowledge to anyone that follows politics.

[CosmicCowboy]

Go ahead and have the last word, Chump. Im done with your stupid game. Declare yourself the "winner" and move the fuck on.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not shitting myself at all. I have already answered your bullshit "claim" pages ago. If you want "links" you are shit out of luck. Im in Colorado on my phone and I am under no obligation to research what is common knowledge to anyone that follows politics.


Go ahead and have the last word, Chump. Im done with your stupid game. Declare yourself the "winner" and move the fuck on.

You're shitting yourself long distance now.

You're a fragile little bitch, CC. Grow a pair before trying your bullshit again. You're going to get called out on this board so stock up on your diapers.

[BD24]

CC got pulled into the chump rodeo :lol

rode that ride for a few days

[CosmicCowboy]

CC got pulled into the chump rodeo :lol

rode that ride for a few days

True. Silly me for thinking Chump could actually have an intellectual conversation about social security and medicare. For him its all about his imaginary "wins". My mistake for trying.

[Ef-man]

We'd all have to assume your facts are straight first. That's how rational discussions work.

I find it hard to believe that a political party that opposes raising minimum wages would expect low paid workers to survive in retirement without having to continue working until they die.

[CosmicCowboy]

I find it hard to believe that a political party that opposes raising minimum wages would expect low paid workers to survive in retirement without having to continue working until they die.

Is the "minimum wage" even relevant? The real minimum wage in San Antonio appears to be $14+ based on what entry level positions at HEB, QT, WalMart, Target,Bill Millers, etc. are going for.

[Ef-man]

Is the "minimum wage" even relevant? The real minimum wage in San Antonio appears to be $14+ based on what entry level positions at HEB, QT, WalMart, Target,Bill Millers, etc. are going for.

The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. In Texas, the minimum wage is $7.25.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/state#tx (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/state#tx)

[BD24]

Is the "minimum wage" even relevant? The real minimum wage in San Antonio appears to be $14+ based on what entry level positions at HEB, QT, WalMart, Target,Bill Millers, etc. are going for.
Cmon dude. This is so out of touch. There is tons of people still making minimum wage or under $10 an hour.

and yes wages are higher in big cities. But, they are most definitely paying far less in shitholes like three rivers

[CosmicCowboy]

Cmon dude. This is so out of touch. There is tons of people still making minimum wage or under $10 an hour.

and yes wages are higher in big cities. But, they are most definitely paying far less in shitholes like three rivers

I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.

[CosmicCowboy]

Checking glass door at Valero refinery in three rivers the lowest salary (intern trainee position) was $57,000 a year. They probably drug test though.

[CosmicCowboy]

And seriously, anyone only making $10 an hour in SA must be seriously dysfunctional. There are jobs freaking everywhere paying more than that.

[Monostradamus]

I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.
Adjusted for inflation, $1.25/hr when you were fifteen is still significantly higher than the current minimum wage, Mr Bootstraps.

[Adam Lambert]

I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.

Cool and your first house was $7,500.

[CosmicCowboy]

Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.

[Blake]

CC with the "if I could do it" garbage

[Blake]

" if a tall white guy like me could do it in Texas in the 70s..."

[Monostradamus]

Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
And yet still, minimum wage jobs used to at least be a semi-livable wage, and they’re not anymore.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-04/minimum-wage-was-once-enough-to-keep-a-family-of-3-out-of-poverty

[Monostradamus]

" if a tall white guy like me could do it in Texas in the 70s..."
Amazing how the most spoiled, pampered generation in American history is delusional enough to believe they just bootstrapped it all their lives with no advantages.

[Adam Lambert]

Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.

You're talking about this on an individual level instead of a macro level. There aren't enough "make more money" jobs for everyone who currently makes minimum wage to move into. People are entering the workforce at higher rates than people are retiring. Yes, the top performing minimum wage earners will move up but there are always going to be some who won't because there aren't enough higher paying jobs for everyone, especially as automation increases.

It's not about merit, it's about a baseline level that increases comparable to costs.

[CosmicCowboy]

CC with the "if I could do it" garbage

Blake with the "I'm a loser and will always be a loser"

[Ef-man]

Pretty much sums up the new GOP:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1619869216345100288

[BD24]

Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
Your moving the goalpost through. That’s not the point. The original point you made was “well the real minimum wage is x dollars an hour in SA”. And that just isn’t true. There is plenty of places paying under $10 an hour. As far as your oil refinery job, no shit. Way to cherry pick that. Not everyone in 3 rivers works at the oil refinery. And that’s to not even get started on the nonsense that is waiter/waitress minimum wage.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.

Some are some are not. That still doesn't excuse the disparity in inflation and wage growth over the past 30 years.

[Blake]

Blake with the "I'm a loser and will always be a loser"

Lol for all any of us know, you're typing on a library computer on the Southside getting ready to go back to your HEB cart

[Ef-man]

https://www.zippia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/americans-by-income-level.jpg

https://www.zippia.com/average-american-income (https://www.zippia.com/average-american-income/)

[spurraider21]

we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k

[Blake]

we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k

I'll get my butler's CPA on it

[CosmicCowboy]

Your moving the goalpost through. That’s not the point. The original point you made was “well the real minimum wage is x dollars an hour in SA”. And that just isn’t true. There is plenty of places paying under $10 an hour. As far as your oil refinery job, no shit. Way to cherry pick that. Not everyone in 3 rivers works at the oil refinery. And that’s to not even get started on the nonsense that is waiter/waitress minimum wage.

I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.

[pgardn]

I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.

day porter Velociti Services

[Ef-man]

we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k

Annual Income* of Spurstalk members

Over 200K - 100%

*In Venezuelan Bolivar (~$0.089)

[CosmicCowboy]

day porter Velociti Services

Yeah, I looked it up. You are correct about the ad. Looks like they haven't hired anyone either.

[BD24]

I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.
McDonald’s, Walmart, construction, do you want me to keep going?

[Joseph Kony]

I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.

You are so painfully out of touch with reality, it's hilarious and sad tbh

[Blake]

McDonald’s, Walmart, construction, do you want me to keep going?

To be fair Walmart was already at caviar level $12 and just announced they're raising to $14.

[Monostradamus]

I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.
If that’s the case then why all the pushback to raising the minimum wage?

[CosmicCowboy]

You are so painfully out of touch with reality, it's hilarious and sad tbh

Apparently you are the one out of touch with reality. There are literally thousands of job openings for unskilled people in SA paying more than $10 hr. There are help wanted signs everywhere.

[Blake]

Apparently you are the one out of touch with reality. There are literally thousands of job openings in SA paying more than $10 hr. There are help wanted signs everywhere.

I bet they're awesome jobs

[Blake]

If that’s the case then why all the pushback to raising the minimum wage?

Why bother. Just let Walmart dictate the minimum wage.

That way they can have their employees just spend their food stamps right there when they get off work

[CosmicCowboy]

McDonald’s, Walmart, construction, do you want me to keep going?

McDonals is $13
Walmart is $14
Construction is $16+

Do you want me to keep going? Hell there are lawn maintenance jobs starting at $16 (Trugreen)

[CosmicCowboy]

I bet they're awesome jobs

Unskilled labor is unskilled labor. You want a fucking corner office and secretary?

[BD24]

McDonals is $13
Walmart is $14
Construction is $16+

Do you want me to keep going? Hell there are lawn maintenance jobs starting at $16 (Trugreen)
You don’t read the fine print on those do you fam? They aren’t starting everyone at those rates. It always says rates starting AS high as x. And a random lawn care company doesn’t represent construction. I know plenty of dudes in construction. Those dudes are getting started at like $9 an hour

[CosmicCowboy]

You don’t read the fine print on those do you fam? They aren’t starting everyone at those rates. It always says rates starting AS high as x. And a random lawn care company doesn’t represent construction. I know plenty of dudes in construction. Those dudes are getting started at like $9 an hour

$9???? Are they illegals?

[Blake]

Unskilled labor is unskilled labor. You want a fucking corner office and secretary?

No I'd like them to be able to afford fucking housing and fucking electricity

[Blake]

$9???? Are they illegals?

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT MCDONALD'S PAY IN TEXAS
What Is The Starting Pay At Mcdonald's In Texas?
The starting pay at McDonald's in Texas is around $17,000 per year, or $8 per hour.

https://www.zippia.com/mcdonald-s-careers-7238/salary/texas/

You're a lazy moron

[CosmicCowboy]

*

[pgardn]

Yeah, I looked it up. You are correct about the ad. Looks like they haven't hired anyone either.

Hell I had no idea.
I just googled it out of curiosity.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From YOUR LINK

That doesn't say what you hope it does.

[Monostradamus]

Unskilled labor is unskilled labor. You want a fucking corner office and secretary?
Who is the arbiter of what is considered unskilled? Pretty sure your lazy Boomer ass wouldn’t do those jobs even if they paid 10x as much.

[Monostradamus]

That doesn't say what you hope it does.


*



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:lol

[Blake]

:lol lazy old entitled illiterate fart

[spurraider21]

:lol
this is a guy who to this day refuses to simply say "i was wrong about cows farting"

[Joseph Kony]

Apparently you are the one out of touch with reality. There are literally thousands of job openings for unskilled people in SA paying more than $10 hr. There are help wanted signs everywhere.

:lmao :lmao you just keep doubling down on how out of touch you are. if only people understood how to invest and flip houses at 20 years old!

[spurraider21]

:lmao :lmao you just keep doubling down on how out of touch you are. if only people understood how to invest and flip houses at 20 years old!
that and having the capital to do so

[Blake]

:lmao :lmao you just keep doubling down on how out of touch you are. if only people understood how to invest and flip houses at 20 years old!

If a white guy like CC can do it, anyone can

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao :lmao you just keep doubling down on how out of touch you are. if only people understood how to invest and flip houses at 20 years old!

that market for new entry tanked when the housing bubble burst 15 years ago. it was so popular because any idiot could get a housing loan because they were deriving them into those shitty securities.

[Monostradamus]

:lmao spoiled insecure Boomers are the worst humans on this planet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3ScJLyX0AUZ5tC.jpg

[spurraider21]

:lmao spoiled insecure Boomers are the worst humans on this planet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3ScJLyX0AUZ5tC.jpg
this one was some time ago, but yeah it was fuckin great :lol

[Adam Lambert]

:lmao spoiled insecure Boomers are the worst humans on this planet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3ScJLyX0AUZ5tC.jpg

These people who wouldn't even get a shot to fight a global pandemic talking about running into gunfire for their country lol

[Winehole23]

Rep. Luna (FL)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn-esLvWQAMF5xb?format=jpg&name=small

[Adam Lambert]

Chef's kiss.
1621019274193276928

[Winehole23]

(((Reptilian infiltrators)))


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn7Qz91WIAAjhsv?format=jpg&name=medium

[koriwhat]

(((Reptilian infiltrators)))

Duh! I mean just look at the skin Tucker had to shed while leaving MSNBC. They're all lizards in the same party! :lmao

[Blake]

Chef's kiss.
1621019274193276928

Good lord

[Winehole23]

It doesn't matter if you're another Republican, they'll ratfuck you.


On January 9, 2021, Hage, still on The Villages’ payroll, introduced legislation to block the proposed impact fee hike. On June 4, 2021, DeSantis signed the bill into law. The governor and the Morse family have close ties, with DeSantis frequently visiting for fundraisers, and The Villages and its executives bankrolling DeSantis. Crucially for The Villages, the law was retroactive.https://theintercept.com/2023/02/05/ron-desantis-florida-villages-oren-miller/

[Winehole23]

The pic is from Kim-Jong Ron's college days.

1623043390710419466

[Trainwreck2100]

Rep. Luna (FL)

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-rep-anna-paulina-luna-160542257.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAADQAt5wlOD6uXm2sH3gZLMaEqk5 DBpZzgWaxvNDNMYFIeQ-X_oPPSP03CZ4Iho4tbC5FcwYtnnTfPESF0hmyGLVvHScKa7UBL e0pzOxIw9_Q-EG_9Q-VZRGlNDY-ugNhjH0Iv70x-YBF87OtZv1TdzAu-b65LY8QWrcRoPEfcXC



Republican Rep. Anna Paulina Luna claimed she was raised Jewish. Some relatives question that, and say her grandfather fought for the Nazis.

[Winehole23]

Her dad being Jewish, he 4am home invasion, the hardscrabble upbringing, all lies. She changed her name from Mayerhofer to Luna in 2019.

[Winehole23]

(took her mothers name to celebrate her Hispanic heritage)

[RandomGuy]

(took her mothers name to celebrate her Hispanic heritage)

The basis of modern conservatism is dishonesty, violence, and greed.

The GOP is really struggling with messaging these days. It is 100% culture war BS all the time 24/7, while Democrats can brag on a solid economy.

I am still waiting on the GOP super-duper plan to replace Obamacare. I heard it is just two weeks from being completed. :lmao

No plans, no coherent messaging, and the most nutball extremists get all the airtime/clicks, while they continue their dabbling into anti-vax territory, keeping their aging base from life-saving medication.

just... wow.

[boutons_deux]

Arkansas Proposes Requiring ID to Watch Porn Online

After a similar bill became law in Louisiana last month,

seven more states have introduced copycat legislation that

force users to show identification.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akexaz/arkansas-porn-sites-id-age-verification

[FrostKing]

The basis of modern conservatism is dishonesty, violence, and greed.

The GOP is really struggling with messaging these days. It is 100% culture war BS all the time 24/7, while Democrats can brag on a solid economy.

I am still waiting on the GOP super-duper plan to replace Obamacare. I heard it is just two weeks from being completed. :lmao

No plans, no coherent messaging, and the most nutball extremists get all the airtime/clicks, while they continue their dabbling into anti-vax territory, keeping their aging base from life-saving medication.

just... wow.
Roughly 25% of Americans are satisfied with one of the 2 political parties in the USA.

Evidently you are part of that outlier.

[Ef-man]

Arkansas Proposes Requiring ID to Watch Porn Online

After a similar bill became law in Louisiana last month,

seven more states have introduced copycat legislation that

force users to show identification.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akexaz/arkansas-porn-sites-id-age-verification


Guess they will get a VPN and avoid the whole issue like in LA.

[Blake]

Roughly 25% of Americans are satisfied with one of the 2 political parties in the USA.

Evidently you are part of that outlier.

Or he's dissatisfied with one party waaaay more than the other

[Winehole23]

"old people aren't just worthless, they're a useless burden"

1624888063355944962

[boutons_deux]

It doesn't matter if you're another Republican, they'll ratfuck you.

https://theintercept.com/2023/02/05/ron-desantis-florida-villages-oren-miller/

the guy who dared to challenge the desantis bulldozer ended up in jail

[boutons_deux]

the guy who dared to challenge the desantis bulldozer ended up in jail

https://theintercept.com/2023/02/05/ron-desantis-florida-villages-oren-miller

[Blake]

"old people aren't just worthless, they're a useless burden"

1624888063355944962

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/6b/cd/556bcd137b6f4bdb28de7c748b166151.jpg

[Ef-man]

"old people aren't just worthless, they're a useless burden"

1624888063355944962

This is why I am pro-abortion.

Ungrateful bastards.

They act all cute as babies and “boom”, they want to off you 16 years later.

Fuck them all!

[Winehole23]

Poor people lack the discipline and toughness to build wealth by skipping meals.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fo_xSh-XoAAf2H3?format=jpg&name=medium

[Leetonidas]

Nikki Haley using the eye of the tiger as her campaign song :lmao so cringe

[Leetonidas]

this campaign rally is ridiculous. these people literally just get on stage and spew a bunch of lies and exaggerated nonsense, blame it on Joe Biden, and the crowd cheers. imagine being such a mouthbreathing loser that you attend a Nikki Haley rally :lol

[Winehole23]

Nikki Haley using the eye of the tiger as her campaign song :lmao so cringeditto spotlighting John Hagee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpBtFVWaIAEErT2?format=jpg&name=medium

[boutons_deux]

Over 300 Anti-LGBTQ+ Bills Have Already Been Filed in 2023


It’s only February and we’ve nearly surpassed last year’s total of 315 bills.

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/anti-lgbtq-bills-filed-2023

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Drag Legislation Isn’t Just About Drag

The GOP's latest culture war front aims to ban or restrict drag performances,

yet the broad ways legislators are defining “drag” could hold grim consequences for trans people.

One West Virginia bill’s attempt (http://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_Text_HTML/2023_SESSIONS/RS/bills/sb252%20intr.pdf) to shield minors from “obscenity” includes “any transvestite and/or transgender exposure, performances or display” as part of its definition,

which could make it illegal for trans people to merely exist around children.

In states like Texas (https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB1266/2023), Kansas (https://legiscan.com/KS/text/SB149/2023), South Dakota (https://legiscan.com/SD/text/HB1125/2023), Nebraska (https://legiscan.com/NE/text/LB371/2023), and others, recently introduced bills define “drag performance” in sweeping terms, classifying a drag performer as someone who exhibits “a gender identity that is different from the performer’s gender assigned at birth” and who sings, lip-syncs, dances, or otherwise performs before an audience, regardless of whether or not that performance is paid.

https://www.them.us/story/anti-drag-legislation-trans-community-drag-queens

[Blake]

ditto spotlighting John Hagee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpBtFVWaIAEErT2?format=jpg&name=medium

Yup nothing new.

[Winehole23]

Yup nothing new.Reasonable moderates making common cause with coo-coo Christian nationalists is kinda new. As recently as 2008, McCain distanced himself from Hagee.

[Blake]

Reasonable moderates making common cause with coo-coo Christian nationalists is kinda new. As recently as 2008, McCain distanced himself from Hagee.

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/60/24/26/12666293/4/1200x0.jpg

But then reasonable moderates who cast their lots with Trump had to deal with it

[Winehole23]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/60/24/26/12666293/4/1200x0.jpg

But then reasonable moderates who cast their lots with Trump had to deal with ittrue

[Winehole23]

Teasing civil war


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpa6XyiaIAAhCyo?format=jpg&name=medium

[Adam Lambert]

"Dems are anti-American"

Also

"We should secede from America"

Incredible yet fairly common sentiment among a lot of "America First" conservatives.

[Winehole23]

"Dems are anti-American"

Also

"We should secede from America"

Incredible yet fairly common sentiment among a lot of "America First" conservatives.Marjorie lives in a blue state, maybe she should self-segregate.

[Winehole23]

I can sort of get why libertarians would celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln, but what have they got against McKinley and Garfield?

1627683017555603458

[Goob]

I can sort of get why libertarians would celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln, but what have they got against McKinley and Arthur?

1627683017555603458
I'm a Libertarian and do not celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln as you put it, just wanted to put that out there.

[Winehole23]

I'm a Libertarian and do not celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln as you put it, just wanted to put that out there.you do capitalize it, which is odd, but not a problem. what's your beef with the NH libertarians? is there something wrong with libertarians celebrating the assassination of US presidents and if so, what?

[Winehole23]

JFK for being a Cold War liberal and Roman Catholic, Lincoln for suspending habeas corpus (inter alia) to muzzle seditious journalists, and for freeing the slaves.

[Spurs Homer]

Hey mjt and her supporters:

wanna divorce?
wanna secede?

ok

just take the cyanide pill the moment cult daddy traitor orders it…and…MAGA!

[Ef-man]

Hey mjt and her supporters:

wanna divorce?
wanna secede?

ok

just take the cyanide pill the moment cult daddy traitor orders it…and…MAGA!

Blame her streetfight boyfriend Zangief for all this talk of divorce and splitting.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fatal-fiction-fanon/images/2/2b/Street_Fighter_-_Zangief_as_he_appears_in_Marvel_vs_Capcom.png/revision/latest?cb=20160524032806

[Adam Lambert]

I'm a Libertarian and do not celebrate the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln as you put it, just wanted to put that out there.

Maybe you can help with this, but why don't any libertarians seem to give a shit about the government forcing people to carry unwanted pregnancies to term?

[Goob]

you do capitalize it, which is odd, but not a problem. what's your beef with the NH libertarians? is there something wrong with libertarians celebrating the assassination of US presidents and if so, what?
Not sure why that's odd?But ok. As far as the second part of your posts goes, yes there is; I don't think you should celebrate the assassination of a President. I think Lincoln and JFK were both very good President's for what they did.Does that go against some thinking by other libertarians?Sure.But just because you are in the same party, doesn't mean you have to believe in and think the same regarding every single thing like the other members do right?

Overall, I don't like to talk politics with people as it just always leads to friction and arguments.Not saying that is happening here, but just saying. I live my life on my own terms with my own values and beliefs and I don't expect everyone to agree with them, and that is fine; to each their own.

[Goob]

Maybe you can help with this, but why don't any libertarians seem to give a shit about the government forcing people to carry unwanted pregnancies to term?
As above, I can't answer for others in my party and my thinking on that topic is not what you stated at all.

[Adam Lambert]

As above, I can't answer for others in my party and my thinking on that topic is not what you stated at all.

Why can't you answer for others in your party? I could easily explain why Democrats generally favor unions, sexual equality, a strong federal government, increased minimum wages and a variety of issues, even those I don't necessarily align with personally. I'm genuinely curious why one of the biggest issues of individual freedom and autonomy gets overlooked by libertarians in favor of stuff like seatbelts.

[ElNono]

Bonkers Republican bill in Idaho would make mRNA-based vaccination a crime
It's unclear if the two lawmakers know what messenger RNA is exactly.

Two Republican lawmakers in Idaho have introduced a bill that would make it a misdemeanor for anyone in the state to administer mRNA-based vaccines—namely the lifesaving and remarkably safe COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. If passed as written, it would also preemptively ban the use of countless other mRNA vaccines that are now in development, such as shots for RSV, a variety of cancers, HIV, flu, Nipah virus, and cystic fibrosis, among others.

The bill is sponsored by Sen. Tammy Nichols of Middleton and Rep. Judy Boyle of Midvale, both staunch conservatives who say they stand for freedom and the right to life. But their bill, HB 154, proposes that "a person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid [mRNA] technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state." If passed into law, anyone administering lifesaving mRNA-based vaccines would be guilty of a misdemeanor, which could result in jail time and/or a fine.

While presenting the bill to the House Health & Welfare Committee last week, Nichols said their anti-mRNA stance stems from the fact that the COVID-19 vaccines were initially allowed under emergency use authorizations (EUAs) from the Food and Drug Administration, not the agency's full regulatory approval. "We have issues that this was fast-tracked," she told fellow lawmakers, according to reporting from local news outlet KXLY.com.

The EUAs for the two mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines were issued in December 2020, and the FDA has subsequently granted full approval to both (Pfizer-BioNTech's in August 2021 and Moderna's in January 2022). This was pointed out to Nichols in the hearing last week.

Safe, effective
"They ultimately were approved under the ordinary approval process and did ultimately, you know, survive the scrutiny of being subjected to all the normal tests," Rep. Ilana Rubel, a democrat from Boise, said.

Nichols seemed unswayed by the point, however, with KTVB7 reporting that she responded that the FDA's approval "may not have been done like we thought it should've been done."

It's unclear what Nichols meant by that statement or why any potential questions about the regulatory review of two specific vaccines would justify criminalizing the use of all vaccines using a similar platform.

To date, more than 269 million people in the US have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine, and over 700 million doses of mRNA-based vaccines have gone into American arms, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency keeps close tabs on safety through various national surveillance systems. Although the shots do carry some risk (as is the case for any medical intervention), they have proven remarkably safe amid widespread use of hundreds of millions of doses in the US and worldwide. A study released late last year found that COVID-19 vaccination in the US alone averted more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths from the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2.

There have been rare reports of adverse events, including blood clots and inflammation of the heart muscle and lining (myocarditis and pericarditis). However, these problems are very rare, and, in the case of myocarditis and pericarditis, they tend to be mild. Independent health experts who advise the FDA and CDC have consistently determined that the risk of developing these conditions does not outweigh the benefits of vaccination.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/bonkers-republican-bill-in-idaho-would-make-mrna-based-vaccination-a-crime/

smh, literally the party of stupid

[Winehole23]

Not sure why that's odd?But ok. As far as the second part of your posts goes, yes there is; I don't think you should celebrate the assassination of a President. I think Lincoln and JFK were both very good President's for what they did.Does that go against some thinking by other libertarians?Sure.But just because you are in the same party, doesn't mean you have to believe in and think the same regarding every single thing like the other members do right?

Overall, I don't like to talk politics with people as it just always leads to friction and arguments.Not saying that is happening here, but just saying. I live my life on my own terms with my own values and beliefs and I don't expect everyone to agree with them, and that is fine; to each their own.Thanks for your specific reply, that's a relative rarity in this forum. :bobo

You've said that you think political assassinations shouldn't be celebrated and in a way, I agree with you. Would-be assassins shouldn't celebrate, it draws attention.

What was your thinking?

[Winehole23]

Why do NH Libertarians applaud the work of Charles Guiteau and Leon Czolgosz? Just to be assholes?

Somebody please make it make sense. Have they been taken over by AnCaps?

[ChumpDumper]

As someone said, today's libertarians are just fascists who smoke pot and want to have sex with kids.

[Winehole23]

As someone said, today's libertarians are just fascists who smoke pot and want to have sex with kids.I guess one flipside of that is being ashamed to admit it, even on an anonymous forum. So many wishy washy libertarians here; they don't like discussing their preferences at all.

[Winehole23]

Bonkers Republican bill in Idaho would make mRNA-based vaccination a crime
It's unclear if the two lawmakers know what messenger RNA is exactly.

Two Republican lawmakers in Idaho have introduced a bill that would make it a misdemeanor for anyone in the state to administer mRNA-based vaccines—namely the lifesaving and remarkably safe COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. If passed as written, it would also preemptively ban the use of countless other mRNA vaccines that are now in development, such as shots for RSV, a variety of cancers, HIV, flu, Nipah virus, and cystic fibrosis, among others.

The bill is sponsored by Sen. Tammy Nichols of Middleton and Rep. Judy Boyle of Midvale, both staunch conservatives who say they stand for freedom and the right to life. But their bill, HB 154, proposes that "a person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid [mRNA] technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state." If passed into law, anyone administering lifesaving mRNA-based vaccines would be guilty of a misdemeanor, which could result in jail time and/or a fine.

While presenting the bill to the House Health & Welfare Committee last week, Nichols said their anti-mRNA stance stems from the fact that the COVID-19 vaccines were initially allowed under emergency use authorizations (EUAs) from the Food and Drug Administration, not the agency's full regulatory approval. "We have issues that this was fast-tracked," she told fellow lawmakers, according to reporting from local news outlet KXLY.com.

The EUAs for the two mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines were issued in December 2020, and the FDA has subsequently granted full approval to both (Pfizer-BioNTech's in August 2021 and Moderna's in January 2022). This was pointed out to Nichols in the hearing last week.

Safe, effective
"They ultimately were approved under the ordinary approval process and did ultimately, you know, survive the scrutiny of being subjected to all the normal tests," Rep. Ilana Rubel, a democrat from Boise, said.

Nichols seemed unswayed by the point, however, with KTVB7 reporting that she responded that the FDA's approval "may not have been done like we thought it should've been done."

It's unclear what Nichols meant by that statement or why any potential questions about the regulatory review of two specific vaccines would justify criminalizing the use of all vaccines using a similar platform.

To date, more than 269 million people in the US have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine, and over 700 million doses of mRNA-based vaccines have gone into American arms, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency keeps close tabs on safety through various national surveillance systems. Although the shots do carry some risk (as is the case for any medical intervention), they have proven remarkably safe amid widespread use of hundreds of millions of doses in the US and worldwide. A study released late last year found that COVID-19 vaccination in the US alone averted more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths from the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2.

There have been rare reports of adverse events, including blood clots and inflammation of the heart muscle and lining (myocarditis and pericarditis). However, these problems are very rare, and, in the case of myocarditis and pericarditis, they tend to be mild. Independent health experts who advise the FDA and CDC have consistently determined that the risk of developing these conditions does not outweigh the benefits of vaccination.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/bonkers-republican-bill-in-idaho-would-make-mrna-based-vaccination-a-crime/

smh, literally the party of stupidfingers crossed it doesn't pass. would suck if it became law, iirc there's an mRNA based cancer shot (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-023-01693-z) on the way.

have you seen the Montana law that would ban teaching scientific theories?

[ChumpDumper]

I guess one flipside of that is being ashamed to admit it, even on an anonymous forum. So many wishy washy libertarians here; they don't like discussing their preferences at all.

That's true of almost anyone on the right here which includes any self-proclaimed libertarians. They either can't think for themselves, don't really believe anything or are too embarrassed to say.

Ask any of them a direct question and watch them shit themselves.

[Winehole23]

That's true of almost anyone on the right here which includes any self-proclaimed libertarians. They either can't think for themselves, don't really believe anything or are too embarrassed to say.

Ask any of them a direct question and watch them shit themselves.It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bullshit at least if you can't comment on anything else.

[Winehole23]

Apparently there's an mRNA based HIV vaccine "several years away"


Diemert said this vaccine is the first HIV vaccine tested in humans that produces broadly neutralizing antibodies that are successful in stopping a variety of HIV strains and variants.

https://www.gwhatchet.com/2023/01/30/mrna-hiv-vaccine-achieves-97-percent-efficacy-in-smhs-human-trials/

[ElNono]

fingers crossed it doesn't pass. would suck if it became law, iirc there's an mRNA based cancer shot (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-023-01693-z) on the way.

have you seen the Montana law that would ban teaching scientific theories?

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...

[Ef-man]

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...

Genetics, they did poorly in school and now they must have kids doing poorly in school, tbh.

Math is next.

[ChumpDumper]

It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bullshit at least if you can't comment on anything else.

That's the weirdest part. It's not like we know these people IRL. Why are they so terrified?

[DarrinS]

It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bullshit at least if you can't comment on anything else.


That's the weirdest part. It's not like we know these people IRL. Why are they so terrified?



Literally nobody is terrified. I use my real name.

Step up

[Winehole23]

"if you move to a red state from a blue state with a previous Democratic Party registration, maybe you don't get to vote for five years"

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[DarrinS]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

[DarrinS]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

Unanimous tards

[Winehole23]

*strains to discern topical information*

[DarrinS]

Unanimous tards


Ambiguous tards

[Winehole23]

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...they're coming for power and they're coming for it now. carrying a cross and wrapped in the US flag.

[DarrinS]

they're coming for power and they're coming for it now. carrying a cross and wrapped in the US flag.


You should double mask on your bike. Because science.

[Winehole23]

You should double mask on your bike. Because science.how ridiculous

[ChumpDumper]

Literally nobody is terrified. I use my real name.

Step up:lmao you're the worst of them all, Drive-By.

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

What's your last name?

[Winehole23]

You should double mask on your bike. Because science.they already outlawed abortion, because religion.

they're banning school books in several states, they're blacklisting and prosecuting teachers. in Missouri they even tried to crack down on bare arms in the State House.

[Winehole23]

What's your last name?Ducks-the-topic





Nonstop
24/7
Widespread

[Winehole23]

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[Goob]

As someone said, today's libertarians are just fascists who smoke pot and want to have sex with kids.
I do smoke pot every so often tbh lol but anyone who does the second part of your post deserves to burn in Hell and get molested by Satan.

[ChumpDumper]

I do smoke pot every so often tbh lol but anyone who does the second part of your post deserves to burn in Hell and get molested by Satan.Be sure to bring that up at the next party meeting.

[MultiTroll]

Ron Johnson joins all Senate Republicans to block bill aimed at disclosing big political donors’ identities (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ron-johnson-joins-all-senate-republicans-to-block-bill-aimed-at-disclosing-big-political-donors-identities/ar-AA13AEqk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9d6f5e732d184460ad24597f8eda00a2)

[Winehole23]

Iowa crusade against margarine.

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