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alfahdlan
11-18-2020, 09:08 PM
Hali pls

Sugus
11-18-2020, 09:09 PM
Suns took Jalen Smith. Fuck!

I was literally mouth-wide-open'd at that pick, wasn't expecting it at all. SPURS WERE SO CLOSE SMH

Russ
11-18-2020, 09:09 PM
GSW might want Halliburton come to think of it . . .

mo7888
11-18-2020, 09:09 PM
I'm surprised there haven't been any trades tonight.

Kurgan
11-18-2020, 09:10 PM
Spurs love their unathletic scrubs

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:11 PM
GO DEVIN VASSELL! YEAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NASpurs
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Sources: San Antonio is selecting Devin Vassell with the No. 11 pick in the NBA Draft.

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
WOOOOHOOOO WE GOT DEVIN VASSELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Vassell. Great pick for 11

talkspurs
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Selected Vessel. I would rather it have been bey.

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Shams says they took Vassell. That's better tbh.

baseline bum
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Damn it Wojtek was wrong :pctoss

Spursfanfromafar
11-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Devin Vassell, it is ! I called it months ago!

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
SO HAPPY WE GOT DEVIN FUCKING VASSELL!!!! FUCK YEAHH!!!!!

talkspurs
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
Selected Vassel. I would rather it have been bey.

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
I'm surprised there haven't been any trades tonight.They're saying there is a flurry of activity trying to get some done. Small percentage of trades ever come to fruitiion.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
Told you niggas! :lol

Sorry Dejounte

pad300
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
I hope that's for a Wiseman trade.

MannyIsGod
11-18-2020, 09:13 PM
So, a trade? Why Vassell?

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:14 PM
Vassell looks like a Devin Brown clone

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:14 PM
GO DEVIN VASSELL! BIG 3 : KELDON, WHITE, VASSELL

YEAH

BackHome
11-18-2020, 09:14 PM
Don’t jump my brother I feel your pain

RC_Drunkford
11-18-2020, 09:14 PM
Dejounte on suicide watch :lol

Chomag
11-18-2020, 09:15 PM
Meh not a great pick but not a bad one either...this FO could do worse.

But another guard though??

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:15 PM
and LOLOLOL at all the ST experts who shat out all the random names for a month only to get surprised again. PATFO doesn't follow your shit threads or "research"

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:15 PM
Thats a nice Spurs hat doe

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-18-2020, 09:16 PM
Oh yay another SG. Fuck this Vagisil guy

Prime BEEF
11-18-2020, 09:16 PM
Boo! Not a fan of him. And with Halliburton available. Ridiculous. At least it wasn’t euro trash

ElNono
11-18-2020, 09:16 PM
He's well spoken... probably asking for a trade soon....

Russ
11-18-2020, 09:18 PM
Vassell always seemed the more thoroughbred of those two.

rascal
11-18-2020, 09:18 PM
great pick

kobyz
11-18-2020, 09:18 PM
Great pick, most underrated player in the draft, two way player, could be the next PG13

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 09:18 PM
Well when you're one of the worst 3P shooting teams in a league that depends on 3P shooting, he's not a bad pick. But Bey drains them too. To me that says there will be some personnel changes. Unfortunately, it probably doesn't mean that.

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:19 PM
wow this Halliburton guy looks super slow and unathletic. Like a 20 year old Andre Miller / Eric Snow or some shit. Glad we didn't pick him. But would have rather we picked Bey, since hes bigger than Vassell

Degoat
11-18-2020, 09:19 PM
Solid pick, I’ll take it

intlspurshk
11-18-2020, 09:21 PM
a totally mediocre pick

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 09:21 PM
Their FA signings over the years have been pathetic, but their drafting has been solid. Especially considering that they have been perennially picking in the bottom of the 1st round. You're kinda coming off like a grumpy old man. :lol

You just said they are trash in FA. They are non existent in trades. Yes they draft amazing but in 2 out of 3 phases they suck.

They’ve fallen out of the playoffs, have a worse trove of assets than many teams that are equally as good now. So yeah, I’m frustrated. They are and have been stuck in neutral and it’s getting worse.


I love the pick at 11. I love Vassell. But Sa needs to move on from DDr and LMA and they should have been able to get something positive for them and they just basically ruined their chances at that it appears.

They are behind. It’s not good enough to just not make mistakes. They need to catch up and be creative and get the f*ck out of neutral

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:21 PM
literally 0 trades too

:lol @ Woj predicting tons of trades

Dverde
11-18-2020, 09:22 PM
At least he can defend. This Haliburton guy seems lame. Glad they passed on him.

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 09:23 PM
Celtics, Mavs, Denver, Milwaukee, Celtics, Jazz, Celtics :rollin

get ready for some light skinned/euro/pastey dudes to come off the board! Only team you need in there is Indiana

outmap
11-18-2020, 09:24 PM
Liked Haliburton better, but I'm not mad at the pick, maybe there's a trade coming.

daslicer
11-18-2020, 09:24 PM
I heard this kid Vassell is basically a younger version of Danny Green. When he develops we can then flip him for 2 or 3 first round picks since teams are now obsessed with 3-D role players .

Sugus
11-18-2020, 09:25 PM
Fuck, both Halliburton and Kira on the board, going right after this bum as well. Glad I didn't crack that second beer tbh, I'd be sad-drunk right now. Smh.

timtonymanu
11-18-2020, 09:26 PM
We got Bryn Forbes’s backup for next season.

spurraider21
11-18-2020, 09:26 PM
Vassell is a good defender which im always good for... but perimeter seeming awfully crowded now between White/Walker/Keldon/Dejounte and now Vassell. and thats just the young guys, not factoring in Derozan. i feel Bey would have made a lot more sense roster construction wise, though that could be short sighted.

Chomag
11-18-2020, 09:27 PM
How many guards do the Spurs think they need anyway?

Kurgan
11-18-2020, 09:27 PM
Holy shit, i was sure they were taking Bey. Vassel isn't my top choice but he's much much better than that scrub saddiq.

TimDunkem
11-18-2020, 09:27 PM
The pick is fine but dear God move on from DDR and/or LMA PLEASE.

jjktkk
11-18-2020, 09:27 PM
You just said they are trash in FA. They are non existent in trades. Yes they draft amazing but in 2 out of 3 phases they suck.

They’ve fallen out of the playoffs, have a worse trove of assets than many teams that are equally as good now. So yeah, I’m frustrated. They are and have been stuck in neutral and it’s getting worse.


I love the pick at 11. I love Vassell. But Sa needs to move on from DDr and LMA and they should have been able to get something positive for them and they just basically ruined their chances at that it appears.

They are behind. It’s not good enough to just not make mistakes. They need to catch up and be creative and get the f*ck out of neutralI'd love for PATFO to get creative. They suck at it though, so I'm not holding my breath.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 09:28 PM
Spurs so disappointing. Position they’ve put themselves in & stunning lack of creativity/lack of self awareness is frustrating.

Sa can get a good player at 11. But how can they look in mirror & justify running this team back as others not only improve but have brighter futures?

BacktoBasics
11-18-2020, 09:28 PM
Kira looks more like a modern high scoring guard in an NBA that doesn’t value defense. Surprised he didn’t go sooner.

BackHome
11-18-2020, 09:29 PM
You just said they are trash in FA. They are non existent in trades. Yes they draft amazing but in 2 out of 3 phases they suck.

They’ve fallen out of the playoffs, have a worse trove of assets than many teams that are equally as good now. So yeah, I’m frustrated. They are and have been stuck in neutral and it’s getting worse.


I love the pick at 11. I love Vassell. But Sa needs to move on from DDr and LMA and they should have been able to get something positive for them and they just basically ruined their chances at that it appears.

They are behind. It’s not good enough to just not make mistakes. They need to catch up and be creative and get the f*ck out of neutral

Totally agree not able to move LMA or DEROZZ for any young or draft picks is going to set us back a few years. If we don’t move anyone it’s going to be another cluster fuck for Walker, Murray, White, Keldon all fighting for minutes

Mugen
11-18-2020, 09:35 PM
Spurs so disappointing. Position they’ve put themselves in & stunning lack of creativity/lack of self awareness is frustrating.

Sa can get a good player at 11. But how can they look in mirror & justify running this team back as others not only improve but have brighter futures?

It starts and ends with the guy at the top. The guy who signs off on all the moves and has likely delayed the team's journey back to relevancy by at least several years with more on the way. You know it, I know it and it's okay to admit that :lol

baseline bum
11-18-2020, 09:35 PM
He's well spoken... probably asking for a trade soon....

Well they did compare him to Anthony Davis on ESPN

venitian navigator
11-18-2020, 09:36 PM
With this draft choice I suppose we can actually say that DDR has become our official starting power forward for next season... Bring LMA our starting center...

BatManu20
11-18-2020, 09:37 PM
Damn. Can’t believe we passed on Halliburton, a true PG who’s 6’5, plays good Defense, shoots the 3 at a high clip, and is a good passer. Really wish we would’ve drafted him and traded Dejounte. He’s already better at every aspect of the game than DJ and he doesn’t seem to obsess over Instagram like Murray does. There’s a reason the analysts are saying the Kings got the steal of the night. Spurs blew it tbh.

PhantomDashCam
11-18-2020, 09:39 PM
Good call Dejounte on Jalen Smith’s value. Don’t hate the Vassell pick, just feel meh.

objective
11-18-2020, 09:40 PM
I don't know if the logjam at the wing and guard position is something to get worked up over with the Vassell pick.

Look at the picks that followed: halliburton, Lewis, Nesmith, Cole Anthony ... and still Saddiq Bey.

Unless they went with Precious or Stewart etc, there was going to be a logjam from the 2-3 spot

Kurgan
11-18-2020, 09:40 PM
Damn. Can’t believe we passed on Halliburton, a true PG who’s 6’5, plays good Defense, shoots the 3 at a high clip, and is a good passer. Really wish we would’ve drafted him and traded Dejounte. He’s already better at every aspect of the game than DJ and he doesn’t seem to obsess over Instagram like Murray does. There’s a reason the analysts are saying the Kings got the steal of the night. Spurs blew it tbh.

Haliburton would have been interesting but kinda hard to justify with all the point guards we already have on the roster. I do agree he might end up being the steal of the draft.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 09:41 PM
Totally agree not able to move LMA or DEROZZ for any young or draft picks is going to set us back a few years. If we don’t move anyone it’s going to be another cluster fuck for Walker, Murray, White, Keldon all fighting for minutes

I don’t think it sets us back really. But we are FAR behind. Other teams have amazing franchise cornerstones and are improving. Sa isn’t.

They have troves of assets and picks to improve in the future. Sa doesn’t.

Sa is behind. Far behind arguably and they won’t do anything to help win now or be realistic about who they are and help their future.

One of the most archaic short sighted teams in the NBA and clearly a bottom tier Fo in the modern NBA at this point.

TimDunkem
11-18-2020, 09:42 PM
Totally agree not able to move LMA or DEROZZ for any young or draft picks is going to set us back a few years. If we don’t move anyone it’s going to be another cluster fuck for Walker, Murray, White, Keldon all fighting for minutes

Any half-smart armchair GM can see it coming. One can only hope they get creative soon. Running this shit back + Vassell is going to end up the same way running it back worked out last season when just about every other team is actually trying to improve.

Russ
11-18-2020, 09:42 PM
Nice pick at 11 but picking at 11 was really pretty much a fallback.

RC_Drunkford
11-18-2020, 09:42 PM
Devin Vassell will be the pick.

:bobo

weren't the Dubs interested in Vassell? Still hoping for a Wiseman deal although it seems unlikely now that Klay got injured

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 09:43 PM
And I don’t care if all our youth turns into Lebron level players. Yes Spurs draft well but they have been poor every where else and left an insane amount of opportunity out there

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:43 PM
Good call Dejounte on Jalen Smith’s value. Don’t hate the Vassell pick, just feel meh.

Who knows what would have happened if Jalen was there at 11. Jalen was visibly upset when they were interviewing him.

BacktoBasics
11-18-2020, 09:43 PM
Damn. Can’t believe we passed on Halliburton, a true PG who’s 6’5, plays good Defense, shoots the 3 at a high clip, and is a good passer. Really wish we would’ve drafted him and traded Dejounte. He’s already better at every aspect of the game than DJ and he doesn’t seem to obsess over Instagram like Murray does. There’s a reason the analysts are saying the Kings got the steal of the night. Spurs blew it tbh.

Haliburton looks like another Michael Carter Williams but even less of an offensive game.

objective
11-18-2020, 09:44 PM
Presti showing the Spurs how it's done.

Trade up and back in with your over 30 vets and take a big baller swing for the homerun with Poku

Jake from State Farm wondering if he'll be allowed to finally speak to the media without RC interrupting him and shutting him up

DAF86
11-18-2020, 09:45 PM
Poku :(

Dverde
11-18-2020, 09:45 PM
Spurs just drafted that kid to put him in the deal for Harden. DJ, LMA, Vagisil, 2 first rounders. Call it into the league office :lol

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 09:46 PM
Damn. Can’t believe we passed on Halliburton, a true PG who’s 6’5, plays good Defense, shoots the 3 at a high clip, and is a good passer. Really wish we would’ve drafted him and traded Dejounte. He’s already better at every aspect of the game than DJ and he doesn’t seem to obsess over Instagram like Murray does. There’s a reason the analysts are saying the Kings got the steal of the night. Spurs blew it tbh.

White's our PG imo, and is better than Haliburton. I agree that I hope Murray is traded or used as the sixth man tbh.

RC_Drunkford
11-18-2020, 09:46 PM
Any half-smart armchair GM can see it coming. One can only hope they get creative soon. Running this shit back + Vassell is going to end up the same way running it back worked out last season when just about every other team is actually trying to improve.

nothing will happen until the 70-year old dictator is out the door. It's all Flopovich dragging down the franchise at this point

lefty20
11-18-2020, 09:47 PM
Do people really believe that moving DD is gonna be easy? Y'all really think that teams are lining up to snag him? Especially if you're looking to get a high pick in return while trying to avoid taking back a bad contracts.

Sometimes, sitting back until a good opportunity comes up is better than making a bad move just for the sake of making moves. Yes, that might mean that we have to watch DD play out his contract this year.

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 09:47 PM
Bey falling like the overrated scrub he is.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 09:48 PM
Presti showing the Spurs how it's done.

Trade up and back in with your over 30 vets and take a big baller swing for the homerun with Poku

Jake from State Farm wondering if he'll be allowed to finally speak to the media without RC interrupting him and shutting him up

Didn't know Presti was with the Wolves. Now I understand why they chose Poku. Man, I miss Sam. This pretty much guarantees Poku will pan out. :(

Joseph Kony
11-18-2020, 09:48 PM
teams making moves and spurs doing jack shit per par. :lol

Chinook
11-18-2020, 09:48 PM
How the fuck could 19 be traded for people scrubs like that?

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 09:49 PM
:lmao Clippers traded Shamet for Kennard

rankingtear
11-18-2020, 09:49 PM
The ATL insider called it Jalen PHX and Vassell SA

Mugen
11-18-2020, 09:49 PM
:lol At people omitting Bryn from the rotation. Anybody who's watched the old man coach these last 2 years knows that he thinks the world of Forbes.

Dverde
11-18-2020, 09:50 PM
Bey falling like the overrated scrub he is.

I also think Bey is a scrub. I knew Spurs would never draft him.

Degoat
11-18-2020, 09:50 PM
Wtf!?! Luke Kennard to clippers

TimDunkem
11-18-2020, 09:50 PM
nothing will happen until the 70-year old dictator is out the door. It's all Flopovich dragging down the franchise at this point

I've been saying that since 2015, tbh.

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 09:51 PM
:lol At people omitting Bryn from the rotation. Anybody who's watched the old man coach these last 2 years knows that he thinks the world of Forbes.

:depressed

talkspurs
11-18-2020, 09:52 PM
Few weeks ago I said Presti was better then RC and people thought I was crazy. now people are saying it.

tim_duncan_fan
11-18-2020, 09:53 PM
How many 6'5, 6'6 guys does one team need?
What in the fucking L?

Can't believe, but atthe same time, definitely can believe we didn't make a move.

Sad.

objective
11-18-2020, 09:53 PM
Kennard over Shamet - upgrade for Clippers, easy call. And they have the money to pay him

Kawhi ain't quitting unless he's wearing a Spurs uni

TimDunkem
11-18-2020, 09:53 PM
:lol At people omitting Bryn from the rotation. Anybody who's watched the old man coach these last 2 years knows that he thinks the world of Forbes.

You can pencil him in as the starting SG next season.

daslicer
11-18-2020, 09:56 PM
Kennard over Shamet - upgrade for Clippers, easy call. And they have the money to pay him

Kawhi ain't quitting unless he's playing in the 4th quarter of a game 7 against the Nuggets.

Degoat
11-18-2020, 09:56 PM
I really like the Vassel pick lol it is hard to see what the spurs are doing though, like are we trying to make the playoffs this year or what

Biggems
11-18-2020, 09:57 PM
Maybe we can get Bey in the 2nd round.....Tyler, not Saddiq.....


I wouldn't mind Merrill from Utah St. In the 2nd.

Chinook
11-18-2020, 10:02 PM
Oh, so I guess Precious isn't going to bust after all.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:03 PM
Some Sniff Crew talking points to look out for in the next few days:

"It takes two teams to make a trade"
"Losing Derozan and Aldridge for nothing during a seller's market isn't even that bad..."
"A couple of other moves here and there, and I don't think it's out of the question that the Spurs are a Top 6 seed next year..."
"PATFO has earned the benefit of the doubt"
"Vassell is going to need a lot of time in Austin before he can contribute"

Feel free to add! Sniiiiiiifffffffffffffffff

BackHome
11-18-2020, 10:07 PM
We tanking again this season :hungry:

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:07 PM
So, which are some names we are hoping for at 41?

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:08 PM
Kennard over Shamet - upgrade for Clippers, easy call. And they have the money to pay him

Kawhi ain't quitting unless he's wearing a Spurs uni

:lol Kennard fucking sucks

ismael-robert
11-18-2020, 10:08 PM
Curious if any spurs insiders like Mo kno if spurs would've taken Jalen Smith over Vassel...Suns shouldn't have picked over spurs after going 8-0 in bubble

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:10 PM
Some Sniff Crew talking points to look out for in the next few days:

"It takes two teams to make a trade"
"Losing Derozan and Aldridge for nothing during a seller's market isn't even that bad..."
"A couple of other moves here and there, and I don't think it's out of the question that the Spurs are a Top 6 seed next year..."
"PATFO has earned the benefit of the doubt"
"Vassell is going to need a lot of time in Austin before he can contribute"

Feel free to add! Sniiiiiiifffffffffffffffff

"Spoiled Spurs fan"
"Arm-chair GM"
etc

Prime BEEF
11-18-2020, 10:10 PM
How many 6'5, 6'6 guys does one team need?
What in the fucking L?

Can't believe, but atthe same time, definitely can believe we didn't make a move.

Sad.
Yup. This FO is awful. Did nothing to move the needle at all or create any excitement. Not unexpected but still disappointing. The spurs are going have tons of guards and have around $80M available next summer to sign mediocre players.

K...
11-18-2020, 10:10 PM
Curious if any spurs insiders like Mo kno if spurs would've taken Jalen Smith over Vassel...Suns shouldn't have picked over spurs after going 8-0 in bubble

that all depended on them winning the bubble play in .... it sucked

Prime BEEF
11-18-2020, 10:11 PM
So, which are some names we are hoping for at 41?
Tyler Bey or Jordan Nwora. If they are available. Both will be better players than Vassell.

objective
11-18-2020, 10:12 PM
candidates for 41

Killian Tillie
Zeke Nnaji
Xavier Tillman
Bolmaro
Maledon

Saben Lee
Cassius Stanley as a J Simmons clone

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:12 PM
Do people really believe that moving DD is gonna be easy? Y'all really think that teams are lining up to snag him? Especially if you're looking to get a high pick in return while trying to avoid taking back a bad contracts.

Sometimes, sitting back until a good opportunity comes up is better than making a bad move just for the sake of making moves. Yes, that might mean that we have to watch DD play out his contract this year.

People were giving away picks this draft get out of here. To “just bc Sa doesn’t trade doesn’t mean they didn’t try!” Crowd. Ya - a little true.

But when SA is a major statistical outlier w/regard to trade frequency? more than “takes 2 to tango”

speaks to any of: dysfunction, lack of vision/creativity or ability to get things done


Spurs blew their best shot at trading ddr and LMA. It’s a level of incompetence that is so frustrating. Maybe they still can do something competitive and competent still. But their chances took a big blow. And no, letting ddr and LMA walk is not ok. It’s bull shit.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:13 PM
"Spoiled Spurs fan"
"Arm-chair GM"
etc

Definitely. Trying to remember what the usual rebuttals are for when Devin doesn't crack 10mins a game until the Spurs are 10 games out of a playoff spot. :lol

mo7888
11-18-2020, 10:15 PM
People were giving away picks this draft get out of here. To “just bc Sa doesn’t trade doesn’t mean they didn’t try!” Crowd. Ya - a little true.

But when SA is a major statistical outlier w/regard to trade frequency? more than “takes 2 to tango”

speaks to any of: dysfunction, lack of vision/creativity or ability to get things done


Spurs blew their best shot at trading ddr and LMA. It’s a level of incompetence that is so frustrating. Maybe they still can do something competitive and competent still. But their chances took a big blow. And no, letting ddr and LMA walk is not ok. It’s bull shit.

I've got to think they are going to try and package two of Murray, White, Walker, Gay, or Mills to get a vet to add to the LMA-DDR core.

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-18-2020, 10:15 PM
People were giving away picks this draft get out of here. To “just bc Sa doesn’t trade doesn’t mean they didn’t try!” Crowd. Ya - a little true.

But when SA is a major statistical outlier w/regard to trade frequency? more than “takes 2 to tango”

speaks to any of: dysfunction, lack of vision/creativity or ability to get things done


Spurs blew their best shot at trading ddr and LMA. It’s a level of incompetence that is so frustrating. Maybe they still can do something competitive and competent still. But their chances took a big blow. And no, letting ddr and LMA walk is not ok. It’s bull shit.

Everyone thinking it's so easy to trade should get over themselves. There's 50 billion planets out there and Trump is still our president for two months, some things are more important than basketball.

-:pop:

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:18 PM
Everyone thinking it's so easy to trade should get over themselves. There's 50 billion planets out there and Trump is still our president for two months, some things are more important than basketball.

-:pop:

:lol Gotdamn that's spot on

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:18 PM
Definitely. Trying to remember what the usual rebuttals are for when Devin doesn't crack 10mins a game until the Spurs are 10 games out of a playoff spot. :lol

"He's not ready yet!"
"DeRozan's got heart!"
"We all knew this season wouldn't be for Vassell."

Chomag
11-18-2020, 10:20 PM
People were giving away picks this draft get out of here. To “just bc Sa doesn’t trade doesn’t mean they didn’t try!” Crowd. Ya - a little true.

But when SA is a major statistical outlier w/regard to trade frequency? more than “takes 2 to tango”

speaks to any of: dysfunction, lack of vision/creativity or ability to get things done


Spurs blew their best shot at trading ddr and LMA. It’s a level of incompetence that is so frustrating. Maybe they still can do something competitive and competent still. But their chances took a big blow. And no, letting ddr and LMA walk is not ok. It’s bull shit. Yep, somehow other NBA teams seem to find a way to make trades when they need too but its always the same excuse for the Spurs FO

mo7888
11-18-2020, 10:22 PM
NY picks Bolmaro...trades him to Minnesota for 25 and 33

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:24 PM
Best available: Theo Maledon, Desmond Bane, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller

Would be happy with any of those at 41, tbh.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:24 PM
On the bright side, Pop is obviously no spring chicken. We just gotta hope that this is his last year. Hes been one of the worst coaches in the league now for a few years and he's signed off on some of the most embarrassing moves in NBA history.

Him and the dark cloud he's cast over the entire franchise should be lifted soon. Just gotta stay hopeful, Spurs fans!

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:25 PM
:lol @ ":cry The Spurs need to make a trade! I don't care what it is! Just trade someone! :cry"

lefty20
11-18-2020, 10:25 PM
People were giving away picks this draft get out of here. To “just bc Sa doesn’t trade doesn’t mean they didn’t try!” Crowd. Ya - a little true.

But when SA is a major statistical outlier w/regard to trade frequency? more than “takes 2 to tango”

speaks to any of: dysfunction, lack of vision/creativity or ability to get things done


Spurs blew their best shot at trading ddr and LMA. It’s a level of incompetence that is so frustrating. Maybe they still can do something competitive and competent still. But their chances took a big blow. And no, letting ddr and LMA walk is not ok. It’s bull shit.
You really think teams would've taken DD and given up a high pick without wanting one off KJ or LW in return as well? Because that's what I'd demand as a GM of other team.

And we would've had to take on a big contract in return.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:25 PM
NY picks Bolmaro...trades him to Minnesota for 25 and 33

Presti back at it.

timtonymanu
11-18-2020, 10:26 PM
Definitely. Trying to remember what the usual rebuttals are for when Devin doesn't crack 10mins a game until the Spurs are 10 games out of a playoff spot. :lol

Sniffvp: I told you it was part of Pop's plan to bench Lonnie behind Forbes and Beli to make him more motivated.

RC_Drunkford
11-18-2020, 10:27 PM
Sniffvp: I told you it was part of Pop's plan to bench Lonnie behind Forbes and Beli to make him more motivated.

:lmao :lmao :lmao damn I almost forgot about this

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:28 PM
Welp, now all the trades are starting to happen.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:28 PM
Sniffvp: I told you it was part of Pop's plan to bench Lonnie behind Forbes and Beli to make him more motivated.

"In PATFO we trust! Lifetime pass" :cry

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:28 PM
Sniffvp: I told you it was part of Pop's plan to bench Lonnie behind Forbes and Beli to make him more motivated.

:lmao

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:28 PM
Best available: Theo Maledon, Desmond Bane, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller

Would be happy with any of those at 41, tbh.

With Vassell at 11, that keep the door open for a point guard or center.

So I can expand it a bit too...

Theo Maledon, Desmond Bane, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry, Malachi Flynn and Nico Mannion

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:29 PM
Knicks picked Quickley in the first round? :lmao

Russ
11-18-2020, 10:30 PM
Probably go with Cassius Stanley in the 2d.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:31 PM
You really think teams would've taken DD and given up a high pick without wanting one off KJ or LW in return as well? Because that's what I'd demand as a GM of other team.

And we would've had to take on a big contract in return.

Mother f*cker Luke Kennard just fetched 19!! :lol

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 10:31 PM
Tier 6
Tyler Bey
Robert Woodard II
Daniel Oturu
Xavier Tillman
Reggie Perry
Paul Reed
Mason Jones

Guys I want with the 41st pick. Mason Jones is the one I really want but we're too stacked with shooting guards already...ugh.

NASpurs
11-18-2020, 10:31 PM
:lol @ ":cry The Spurs need to make a trade! I don't care what it is! Just trade someone! :cry"

Seeing as the Spurs got bent over the last times they made a trade, it’s probably a good thing nothing materialized. :lol

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:31 PM
:lol @ ":cry The Spurs need to make a trade! I don't care what it is! Just trade someone! :cry"

Honest question: you think SA FO has been good past few years and you’re ok with what they are doing and have done?

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:32 PM
Jaden McDaniels or GTFO

TimDunkem
11-18-2020, 10:33 PM
Mother f*cker Luke Kennard just fetched 19!! :lol

You can't convince me a deal couldn't be made for DDR and/or LMA. I think SA likes what they have...and that's just sad. :lol

BackHome
11-18-2020, 10:33 PM
You just said they are trash in FA. They are non existent in trades. Yes they draft amazing but in 2 out of 3 phases they suck.

They’ve fallen out of the playoffs, have a worse trove of assets than many teams that are equally as good now. So yeah, I’m frustrated. They are and have been stuck in neutral and it’s getting worse.


I love the pick at 11. I love Vassell. But Sa needs to move on from DDr and LMA and they should have been able to get something positive for them and they just basically ruined their chances at that it appears.

They are behind. It’s not good enough to just not make mistakes. They need to catch up and be creative and get the f*ck out of neutral

Totally agree not able to move LMA or DEROZZ for any young or draft picks is going to set us back a few years. If we don’t move anyone it’s going to be another cluster fuck for Walker, Murray, White, Keldon all fighting for minutes

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:33 PM
Jaden McDaniels or GTFO

Won't make it to 41, tbh.

BackHome
11-18-2020, 10:33 PM
Don’t jump my brother I feel your pain

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 10:34 PM
Boston taking forever maybe LMA? Wishful thinking

objective
11-18-2020, 10:35 PM
Who needs trades when you have buyouts?

Buying out Gay and LMA and DDR could save the Spurs a combined 4-5 million off the cap based on my mathematicals with the Carroll and Pau buyouts.

That should give them enough to pay Forbes 10 million a year without going into the tax.

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 10:35 PM
BREAKING NEWS CELTICS DRAFT LIGHT SKINNED/PASTY DUDE

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 10:35 PM
Damn. Bey traded twice already? First to the Clippers and then to the Pistons. The Pistons also trading for Isaiah Stewart. Looks like the after-market is pretty busy.

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:36 PM
Honest question: you think SA FO has been good past few years and you’re ok with what they are doing and have done?

Let me check the handbook.

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 10:37 PM
Who needs trades when you have buyouts?

Buying out Gay and LMA and DDR could save the Spurs a combined 4-5 million off the cap based on my mathematicals with the Carroll and Pau buyouts.

That should give them enough to pay Forbes 10 million a year without going into the tax.


I just threw up in my mouth a little. No, seriously, fuck you for saying that because it could really be true. :lol

NickiRasgo
11-18-2020, 10:37 PM
With those players being picked at the 20s, this NBA Draft is really weak.

poopbox
11-18-2020, 10:37 PM
I've got to think they are going to try and package two of Murray, White, Walker, Gay, or Mills to get a vet to add to the LMA-DDR core.

Legit the dumbest possible thing we could do...which means it's definitely in play...because since the kawhibacle we have been arguably the worst front office in the entire nba...

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:38 PM
Let me check the handbook.

I'm disappointed, Sniffs. I thought you wrote the handbook. :lol

Chinook
11-18-2020, 10:39 PM
Honest question: you think SA FO has been good past few years and you’re ok with what they are doing and have done?

I don't think they've been as bad as people made it seem. It does feel like they're so scared of making the wrong move that they avoid making any big moves. I'd like them to pick a direction, but I'm also okay with them not committing hard either way. But they should start look at trades to clean up their roster. No that doesn't mean LMA and DMDR have to go out so the Spurs can avoid letting them walk. But they should be acquiring vets or additional firsts for their young players and aren't doing that. I also wish they were move aggressive with their big expirings like Gasol and Jackson. Hell, even Bonner. It's like they went from throwing away picks for any shitty vet to keeping them locked away even when there are clear upgrades out there.

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 10:40 PM
Quickley went 25, so whoever was high on him was sort of right. Then the C's draft Payton Pritchard at 26. Wait... who?

lefty20
11-18-2020, 10:40 PM
Mother f*cker Luke Kennard just fetched 19!! :lol

Moving DD with 27.7 mil salary isn't as easy as moving Kennard at 5.2 mil. How is it so hard to understand that?

Everyone in the league knows that DD is a net negative player. He wouldn't move the needle for any of the 29 other teams and it's no secret.

You know that "Force Trade" option is for 2k only, right?

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:41 PM
Won't make it to 41, tbh.

Trade up

CGD
11-18-2020, 10:41 PM
Honest question: you think SA FO has been good past few years and you’re ok with what they are doing and have done?

Drafting has been very good; free agency and trading lackluster

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:41 PM
Let me check the handbook.

D*ck :lol

BG_Spurs_Fan
11-18-2020, 10:42 PM
Finally the draft gets a bit wild. Looks like someone quite decent could be there at 41. I like Woodard, Ramsey, Joe, Stanley, Oturu, Reed.

Chinook
11-18-2020, 10:42 PM
Legit the dumbest possible thing we could do...which means it's definitely in play...because since the kawhibacle we have been arguably the worst front office in the entire nba...

There's nothing dumb about it. Long-term the Spurs are only going to keep at most two of those guys. Trading the one they don't intend to keep for an upgrade seems like an obvious play, especially if that upgrade is young enough to still be around in a couple of years.

Kurik
11-18-2020, 10:42 PM
If we can get one of Otoru, Carey, Perry, or Nwora I'd be pretty happy.

ElNono
11-18-2020, 10:42 PM
Spurs clearly draft winners this year, tbh... I might even buy NBA League Pass in 2024 once Vasell got over himself.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:42 PM
Moving DD with 27.7 mil salary isn't as easy as moving Kennard at 5.2 mil. How is it so hard to understand that?

Everyone in the league knows that DD is a net negative player. He wouldn't move the needle for any of the 29 other teams and it's no secret.

You know that "Force Trade" option is for 2k only, right?

Everyone knows he’s a negative player but...Sa traded Kawhi for him :lol?

BackHome
11-18-2020, 10:43 PM
I think every team made improvements except Spurs and New York

objective
11-18-2020, 10:44 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little. No, seriously, fuck you for saying that because it could really be true. :lol

Sorry Zeus, I'm not trying to be funny

The trade market will be zero. But LMA will pout and bat his eyes at RC and BW, and they'll be like, "Aw shucks, LaMarcus, you're such a swell guy, we'll buy you out so you can sign with Portland now and not wait until the summer!"

LMA: "Really, honest and true? And I'll only have to give up $1 million, less than I'll get pro-rated with Portland?"

RC: "You got it buddy!"

Rinse and Repeat with Gay and DDR with other teams.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:44 PM
Everyone knows he’s a negative player but...Sa traded Kawhi for him :lol?

:lol *paid for the privilege to trade kawhi for him

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 10:45 PM
I think every team made improvements except Spurs and New York


It's only a non-improvement for the Spurs if they keep Forbes.


Fuck! They're gonna keep Forbes, aren't they?

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:45 PM
I don't think they've been as bad as people made it seem. It does feel like they're so scared of making the wrong move that they avoid making any big moves. I'd like them to pick a direction, but I'm also okay with them not committing hard either way. But they should start look at trades to clean up their roster. No that doesn't mean LMA and DMDR have to go out so the Spurs can avoid letting them walk. But they should be acquiring vets or additional firsts for their young players and aren't doing that. I also wish they were move aggressive with their big expirings like Gasol and Jackson. Hell, even Bonner. It's like they went from throwing away picks for any shitty vet to keeping them locked away even when there are clear upgrades out there.

Yea. So they suck.

I have my preference on what they should do but making horrendous FA decisions and not optimizing any assets and not picking any direction? GTFO with all that.

If other teams were doing same I get it. I’m upset because as I mentioned they are getting absolutely lapped. They aren’t good now, have no cornerstone and have nothing in their trove to show for it.

It’s flat out lazy and poor.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 10:45 PM
Sorry Zeus, I'm not trying to be funny

The trade market will be zero. But LMA will pout and bat his eyes at RC and BW, and they'll be like, "Aw shucks, LaMarcus, you're such a swell guy, we'll buy you out so you can sign with Portland now and not wait until the summer!"

LMA: "Really, honest and true? And I'll only have to give up $1 million, less than I'll get pro-rated with Portland?"

RC: "You got it buddy!"

Rinse and Repeat with Gay and DDR with other teams.

"And that's actually okay, there's value in buying them out."

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:45 PM
Of course Presti takes McDaniels. :lol

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:46 PM
Drafting has been very good; free agency and trading lackluster

Sure. So grade them vs their division and the West now. Where do they rank in short term, mid term and long term?

mo7888
11-18-2020, 10:48 PM
Of course Presti takes McDaniels. :lol

I think he was moved to Minnesota...but presti is moving in so many directions its hard to keep up with..

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 10:48 PM
Rinse and Repeat with Gay


Okay, see... I never expected to read the words, "rinse and repeat with gay" in a sports forum. No matter what happens from here on out, I've got that. :lol

Sadly, I really can see nobody else wanting to over-pay for Forbes, and SA bidding against themselves to keep him.

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 10:48 PM
:lol *paid for the privilege to trade kawhi for him

:lmao:rollin:lol:):vomit::depressed

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:48 PM
Trade up

Why? It's not worth it at this point.

Atl Spur
11-18-2020, 10:49 PM
Vassell will be fine; we can really apply pressure like Miami does but better!!

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:50 PM
Bane or gtfo

tim_duncan_fan
11-18-2020, 10:50 PM
I think every team made improvements except Spurs and New York

We upgraded over Forbes. Assuming the Devin guy can hit open 3s.

Gah what a depressing night.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 10:51 PM
I think he was moved to Minnesota...but presti is moving in so many directions its hard to keep up with..

Somebody earlier in the thread said Presti was in Minnesota. Maybe he got confused, I never heard of Presti leaving OKC, tbh. Anyways, whoever is picking for the Wolves, he's making a hell of a job.

lefty20
11-18-2020, 10:51 PM
Everyone knows he’s a negative player but...Sa traded Kawhi for him :lol?

That was a bad trade, no arguments here. I'd definitely pay to see what kind of packages were officially offered by Celtics & Lakers.

That being said, there is the caveat of nephew having taken away any leverage we should've had by threatening to sit out the year unless he's traded to LA and/or just walking away after playing out the year.

The other teams to have definitely learned form our mistake of hoping to make DD a + player.

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 10:52 PM
Boston moving 30 please spurs

mo7888
11-18-2020, 10:53 PM
Somebody earlier in the thread said Presti was in Minnesota. Maybe he got confused, I never heard of Presti leaving OKC, tbh. Anyways, whoever is picking for the Wolves, he's making a hell of a job.

Gotcha... I think Rosas is the guy in Minnesota

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 10:53 PM
Bane or gtfo

It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 10:55 PM
Gah what a depressing night.

:rollin every draft night for ST Spurs fan :rollin

poopbox
11-18-2020, 10:55 PM
There's nothing dumb about it. Long-term the Spurs are only going to keep at most two of those guys. Trading the one they don't intend to keep for an upgrade seems like an obvious play, especially if that upgrade is young enough to still be around in a couple of years.

I agree long term they are probably only going to keep two. I strongly disagree with moving one in order to help two career losers like LMA and DDR, continue to lose and then leave next year.

There is no player in the nba you are going to trade who is good enough right now to "help" DDR and LMA, while also being better than murray, while also being as young or younger than murray, while also being on a deal that keeps him here at least 2 years or you know you can resign him.

The fact that it was phrased as helping two veterans players who are on one year deals, one who outright said he wants to end his career somewhere else and the other who you could not come to turns on a long term contract with is frightening.

timvp
11-18-2020, 10:56 PM
Best available heading into the second round: Theo Maledon, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry and Nico Mannion

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 10:57 PM
That was a bad trade, no arguments here. I'd definitely pay to see what kind of packages were officially offered by Celtics & Lakers.

That being said, there is the caveat of nephew having taken away any leverage we should've had by threatening to sit out the year unless he's traded to LA and/or just walking away after playing out the year.

The other teams to have definitely learned form our mistake of hoping to make DD a + player.

He is a + player. Spurs just refuse to hurt their quest for 40 wins unless they get a crazy package. Take any firsts and move on.

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 10:57 PM
Best available heading into the second round: Theo Maledon, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry and Nico Mannion

who’s your top 3 preference for Spurs?

objective
11-18-2020, 10:59 PM
Somebody earlier in the thread said Presti was in Minnesota. Maybe he got confused, I never heard of Presti leaving OKC, tbh. Anyways, whoever is picking for the Wolves, he's making a hell of a job.

No, I praised that Presti traded up to get Poku

You must have not seen the news when you posted and and confused that MIN was taking him

Chinook
11-18-2020, 11:00 PM
Yea. So they suck.

We don't really disagree. I just think they could suck a lot more than they do. Like had they just waived LMA to save money or whatever, they'd be a much worse front office. That's just dumb. That they in general want to run it back and not make huge win-now moves also isn't what makes them bad. I just think they need to strike a better balance of competing and rebuilding than they're doing now.

But things like the Carroll signing are objectively horrible. Gasol and Mills were defensible if not even fine outside of the dumb structuring of Gasol's deal. But how can you sign a guy the coach hates when your coach runs your front office? Doesn't make any sense. And I'll never get over wasting the 2015 first on Miluntinov. It was a bad pick, but it was also such an obviously shitty thought process that bore no fruit anyway, and the Spurs not having a viable developmental big bit them in the ass for multiple years (basically leading to the Gasol signings and the prioritizing of Poeltl in the Leonard deal).

Honestly, outside of those two things and the causal chains they started, I've been much more frustrated with Pop than I am with RC/Wright. His shitty coaching sank the Spurs last year.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:02 PM
No, I praised that Presti traded up to get Poku

You must have not seen the news when you posted and and confused that MIN was taking him

So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

BackHome
11-18-2020, 11:02 PM
LMA and DEROZZ going to be playing Hero ball cause they want to get the hell out of dodge and get that new contract

Kurik
11-18-2020, 11:03 PM
So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

Pretty sure OKC did.

objective
11-18-2020, 11:04 PM
So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

OKC traded with MIN to get Poku

I posted after WOJ had posted it

Rubio was involved in the deal, and that's why I praised Presti for sending his over-30 vets out to get picks and take a swing on high risk players

ZeusWillJudge
11-18-2020, 11:04 PM
Pretty sure OKC did.


Yep. After-market. Thunder have all kinds of trade bait.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:07 PM
OKC traded with MIN to get Poku

I posted after WOJ had posted it

Rubio was involved in the deal, and that's why I praised Presti for sending his over-30 vets out to get picks and take a swing on high risk players

Fucking beaner ESPN didn't anounce that trade. I just saw Poku with a Wolves hat.

Presti :cry

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 11:07 PM
We don't really disagree. I just think they could suck a lot more than they do. Like had they just waived LMA to save money or whatever, they'd be a much worse front office. That's just dumb. That they in general want to run it back and not make huge win-now moves also isn't what makes them bad. I just think they need to strike a better balance of competing and rebuilding than they're doing now.

But things like the Carroll signing are objectively horrible. Gasol and Mills were defensible if not even fine outside of the dumb structuring of Gasol's deal. But how can you sign a guy the coach hates when your coach runs your front office? Doesn't make any sense. And I'll never get over wasting the 2015 first on Miluntinov. It was a bad pick, but it was also such an obviously shitty thought process that bore no fruit anyway, and the Spurs not having a viable developmental big bit them in the ass for multiple years (basically leading to the Gasol signings and the prioritizing of Poeltl in the Leonard deal).

Honestly, outside of those two things and the causal chains they started, I've been much more frustrated with Pop than I am with RC/Wright. His shitty coaching sank the Spurs last year.

I’m just comparing them to the division and conference. They draft well but mostly they’ve done nothing. You don’t get credit for that imo. They are paralyzed and as you said coaching sucks.

This is what bothers me:

SA has been lapped.

DAL is better & brighter future
MEM is better & brighter future
NO is better & brighter future
Okc is better & brighter future
Suns are better & brighter future
Denver is better & brighter future

They cannot “do nothing” themselves into a better future.

It’s a results business. If not making mistakes was the right decision and got you ahead? Great. I would be singing their praises.

But they are way behind. Way. Behind. And it’s getting worse. So that plan is unjustifiable.

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 11:07 PM
Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

timvp
11-18-2020, 11:08 PM
Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

:depressed

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 11:09 PM
Seth curry going back to philly. There goes mills to philly option. Ugh running it back

crc21209
11-18-2020, 11:09 PM
:depressed

:smh

Degoat
11-18-2020, 11:09 PM
Bet 76ers got Seth curry for him, someone similar to patty

Chinook
11-18-2020, 11:09 PM
I agree long term they are probably only going to keep two. I strongly disagree with moving one in order to help two career losers like LMA and DDR, continue to lose and then leave next year.

There is no player in the nba you are going to trade who is good enough right now to "help" DDR and LMA, while also being better than murray, while also being as young or younger than murray, while also being on a deal that keeps him here at least 2 years or you know you can resign him.

The fact that it was phrased as helping two veterans players who are on one year deals, one who outright said he wants to end his career somewhere else and the other who you could not come to turns on a long term contract with is frightening.

I mean, it's not that hard to be better than Murray, and I don't really care if they're younger. The Spurs would do well to not get out of DJM's deal if they don't think he's going to a top-2 or -3 player in their coffers (right now, I have him at at best fourth behind White, Johnson and Vassell and personally behind Walker Poeltl and probably 41). Protecting that young core is the first priority. The second priority can easily be to be the best team the Spurs can be this year. That's in some way for the sake of Pop and the vets. But it's also for the sake of the team's culture and the young players growing up in it. Just as Miami didn't tank when they rebuild, so won't the Spurs.

I'm not down for making MKE- or even Portland-level trades. But you can argue it intersects the Spurs' goals of rebuilding and competing by moving Murray for a better-fitting piece that also lets them shed DJM's salary going forward.

crc21209
11-18-2020, 11:10 PM
Well this sucks

NASpurs
11-18-2020, 11:10 PM
Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

One more year of Fatty Mills, greaaat...

YoungbuckMurray
11-18-2020, 11:10 PM
Bet 76ers got Seth curry for him, someone similar to patty

Yep that’s exactly what I happened

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 11:11 PM
One more year of Fatty Mills, greaaat...

you'll go to the jersey retirement

timvp
11-18-2020, 11:11 PM
Maledon off the board :depressed

NASpurs
11-18-2020, 11:12 PM
you'll go to the jersey retirement

To cough on his face probably.

objective
11-18-2020, 11:12 PM
If you're going to compare the Spurs free agency and trades to the rest of the West, then yeah, they might not look great

Futures this, future that

But if you look ahead while you're behind the wheel, you can see the rearview mirror. It makes you SAFE! Maybe we all need to look behind us to the past instead of the future.

So how come nobody ever compares the years 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2014 to the rest of the West?

Makes you think, doesn't it?

*sniffs loudly*

Degoat
11-18-2020, 11:12 PM
I get 76ers need shooting but that’s all they got for Josh Richardson, that’s crazy

ElNono
11-18-2020, 11:12 PM
Best available heading into the second round: Theo Maledon, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry and Nico Mannion

I have my "Golden Shrine Landscaping of Theo Maledon" thread ready, tbh...

EDIT:

Maledon off the board :depressed

damn it

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 11:12 PM
:lol they're fucking running it back again. Once I hear they've resigned Forbes I'm gonna lose my shit.

Mugen
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Meh, who needs to make trades when you got Timmy, Manu, - oh......

timvp
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Tillman off the board too. My best available list is getting murdered :lol

What's left: Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Killian Tillie and Nico Mannion

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Maledon off the board :depressed

Sam Presti taking all your guys.

Kurgan
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Every team trying to make some moves while Spurs content to stand pat with the 11th pick

Atl Spur
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Nico mansion might be the pick....

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
Maledon off the board :depressed

Presti. :lol

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 11:13 PM
This draft is so trash tbh. Makes sense tho #2020

Kurik
11-18-2020, 11:14 PM
Woodard, Bey, Perry, or Nwora please. :worthy:

ElNono
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
We picking Bolmaro...

Mugen
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
I'm not losing sleep over a guy just because TP mentored him in some pie eating contest

Dejounte
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
Tyler Bey and Woodard would be solid 3/4's

mo7888
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
Woodard, Bey, Perry, or Nwora please. :worthy:

Agreed

Biggems
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
Our D was shit, just pure shit. DV is possibly the best wing defenders in the draft.

mo7888
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
We picking Bolmaro...

He's in Minnesota

ElNono
11-18-2020, 11:15 PM
He's in Minnesota

oh shit

objective
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Seth Curry in Philly means they won't try to sign Bryn

Bad stars are aligning to get him back in SA

look_at_g_shred
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Bey is still there? Let’s go!!

Atl Spur
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Humor me, all this Presti wood riding has produced 0 championships ........... get a grip ladies!

timvp
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Nico Mannion, Killian Tillie, Paul Reed or Nate Hinton?

cjw
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
I get 76ers need shooting but that’s all they got for Josh Richardson, that’s crazy

They also gave up the 36th pick to get Curry. Crazy.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
We picking Bolmaro...

He went 23rd overall son. :lol

mo7888
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
Bey to Dallas...acquired in the curry trade

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 11:16 PM
We picking Bolmaro...

Minny already took him.

look_at_g_shred
11-18-2020, 11:17 PM
Well shit

ElNono
11-18-2020, 11:17 PM
He went 23rd overall son. :lol

Late to this party... was checking La Nacion and it didn't say shit

dbestpro
11-18-2020, 11:17 PM
I'm calling Yurtseven for the Spurs with the 2nd pick.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:17 PM
Humor me, all this Presti wood riding has produced 0 championships ........... get a grip ladies!

Not his fault the Thunder's owner is a cheap ass, tbh.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 11:17 PM
Spurs whiffing on Richardson. I thought Mills leadership was worth a 1st???!

timvp
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
Imagine drafting three MVPs in a row and having one Finals appearance to show for it and now being congratulated for stocking up on iffy draft picks :lol

Biggems
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
Fuck the sixers......they took Bey

RC_Drunkford
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
If all it took was Seth Curry to get Josh Richardson the Spurs are full blown idiots for not trading Mills for him. Of course they didn't cause Flopovich can't lose his "leader"

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
Danny Green getting traded around like a dead carcass

Chomag
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
I can't believe people are defending Spurs running it back . Other then the 3 (Keldon, White, Lonnie) keepers the rest of this team is expendable trash.

DPG21920
11-18-2020, 11:18 PM
Tillman off the board too. My best available list is getting murdered :lol

What's left: Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Killian Tillie and Nico Mannion

Was there someone Sa should have traded up for? Should they just trade this pick?

Chinook
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
I’m just comparing them to the division and conference. They draft well but mostly they’ve done nothing. You don’t get credit for that imo. They are paralyzed and as you said coaching sucks.

This is what bothers me:

SA has been lapped.

DAL is better & brighter future
MEM is better & brighter future
NO is better & brighter future
Okc is better & brighter future
Suns are better & brighter future
Denver is better & brighter future

They cannot “do nothing” themselves into a better future.

It’s a results business. If not making mistakes was the right decision and got you ahead? Great. I would be singing their praises.

But they are way behind. Way. Behind. And it’s getting worse. So that plan is unjustifiable.

I think should look at those teams and ask yourselves when they actually started to get a bright future and how they looked just before that?

Dallas was awful for a while. Doncic turned them around, but it's not like they were killing it with young players and whatnot before that.

Memphis refused to tank for years, even trading away a first in an effort to get better. They let guys like ZBO walk. Then they decided at the last minute to tank and got the young core you're fawning over. Also, they aren't better than the Spurs now.

NOP basically wasted seven years of Davis before lucking into Zion. They're also not better than the Spurs and may never be given Zion's potential to bust out. Still, they have a lot of picks and some young players I like.

OKC is definitely not better. They have a more interesting future. But I think they'll have to tank to get the players they want and hope they can hit on those picks. The Thunder need to move as many of those picks as possible to improve their selections. SGA is a nice prospect though.

The Suns should be better now that they did the Paul trade. I think they got a good deal in terms of players they gave up. The Spurs might want to consider making a big trade like that themselves. I think they're better, but I don't think they were before the trade.

Denver was mediocre for ever and never tanked. They lucked into a superstar and have a decent second option. They are an example of how you can "do nothing" yourself into a better future.

DAF86
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
Imagine drafting three MVPs in a row and having one Finals appearance to show for it and now being congratulated for stocking up on iffy draft picks :lol

t the very least it shows that he's pretty damn good at drafting, tbh.

Degoat
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
Lots of solid prospects still on the board

Biggems
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
Give me Merrill now

objective
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
bring on Tillie!

He can rehab in Austin his whole career

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
Imagine drafting three MVPs in a row and having one Finals appearance to show for it and now being congratulated for stocking up on iffy draft picks :lol

SGA is pretty fucking solid tbh

edit SGA acquired not drafted by OKC

Ditty
11-18-2020, 11:19 PM
Seth Curry is much better than Mills. Good trade for Philly.

mo7888
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
If all it took was Seth Curry to get Josh Richardson the Spurs are full blown idiots for not trading Mills for him. Of course they didn't cause Flopovich can't lose his "leader"

And Philly sent #36 (Bey) along with Richardson to get Curry

rankingtear
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
Perry and Woodard still on the board.

Robz4000
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs


Seth curry going back to philly. There goes mills to philly option. Ugh running it back


Bet 76ers got Seth curry for him, someone similar to patty


I get 76ers need shooting but that’s all they got for Josh Richardson, that’s crazy

Seth Curry is his son-in-law. Nepotism Doc strikes again.

Biggems
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
Danny Green getting traded around like a dead carcass

Getting passed around like fresh prison ass

spurraider21
11-18-2020, 11:20 PM
Bey is still there? Let’s go!!
he went #19

ElNono
11-18-2020, 11:21 PM
Bey gone, avoided one more mistake...

**BUSTA**
11-18-2020, 11:21 PM
Woodard, Bey, Perry, or Nwora please. :worthy:

:tu agree. Bey gone

phxspurfan
11-18-2020, 11:21 PM
Seth Curry is much better than Mills. Good trade for Philly.

I don't understand the hate either. He's not his big bro but hes not trash. He's a solid NBA role player as a shooter off the bench