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TheGreatYacht
08-04-2021, 07:17 PM
What happened to Primo Sucks......:lol
1:6 AST TO ratio :lol
Dude can't even dribble properly :lol
NASpurs
08-04-2021, 07:17 PM
How long before the geniuses at HEB uses Primo in the HEB Primo Picks commercials?
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:17 PM
I am late for this game it’s already in the third quarter.,,
spurraider21
08-04-2021, 07:18 PM
box score shows primo with 6 turnovers. i dont remember quite that many, but damn
people need to chill with the Primo hype :lol... though i like that he looks confident/assertive and not passive like we've seen with other PGs like joseph, tre jones, etc
NASpurs
08-04-2021, 07:18 PM
box score shows primo with 6 turnovers. i dont remember quite that many, but damn
Already better than Forbes.
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:18 PM
I missed Primo. Do you think he’ll be back or maybe done for today?
Other than the featured few, this Spurs SL roster is atrocious.
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:20 PM
Vassel looks beefy
NASpurs
08-04-2021, 07:20 PM
Vassell looks great for the tank tbh.
Dejounte
08-04-2021, 07:20 PM
Murray/ Bryn/ Tre
White/ Lonnie/ Primo
McDermott/ Vassell/ KBD/ Wieskamp/ Aminu
Keldon/ Young/ Luka/ Collins
Poeltl/ Landale/ Eubanks
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:21 PM
Vassel kind of forcing shit
Robz4000
08-04-2021, 07:21 PM
box score shows primo with 6 turnovers. i dont remember quite that many, but damn
people need to chill with the Primo hype :lol... though i like that he looks confident/assertive and not passive like we've seen with other PGs like joseph, tre jones, etc
Feel like I'm the only one not impressed with him. He reminds me of Forms and Fathead rolled into one shitty sandwich.
Degoat
08-04-2021, 07:22 PM
Other than the featured few, this Spurs SL roster is atrocious.
I think they’ll look a lot better once Tre Jones is out there
1:6 AST TO ratio :lol
Dude can't even dribble properly :lol
Do you know this guy is only 18 years old right? He wasn’t supposed to run the team but he is doing a good job.
Robz4000
08-04-2021, 07:22 PM
Also, I can see they weren't lying about Vassell coming into SL in poor condition. Doesn't bode well for his mentality towards improving his craft.
1:6 AST TO ratio :lol
Dude can't even dribble properly :lol
Do you know this guy is only 18 years old right? He wasn’t supposed to run the team but he is doing a good job.
Robz4000
08-04-2021, 07:23 PM
Also, I can see they weren't lying about Vassell coming into SL in poor condition. Doesn't bode well for his mentality towards improving his craft.
TheGreatYacht
08-04-2021, 07:23 PM
This dumpster Vassell is making me miss Fathead smh. If you didn't watch the games, the short bus would make you believe this dude is the second coming of nephew....
John B
08-04-2021, 07:24 PM
Even our G-League is terrible. Get ready with losing guys on a night basis :lol
Kurgan
08-04-2021, 07:24 PM
Primo averaged more turnovers than assists in college too. PATFO probably assumes he can be a playmaker based on one good showing at a combine scrimmage :lol
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:26 PM
Vassell defense is legit but we already knew that.
Robz4000
08-04-2021, 07:26 PM
Primo averaged more turnovers than assists in college too. PATFO probably assumes he can be a playmaker based on one good showing at a combine scrimmage :lol
The fact they seem to place so much emphasis on the combine scrimmage with these draft picks lately screams of laziness imo.
tonight...you
08-04-2021, 07:27 PM
Even our G-League is terrible. Get ready with losing guys on a night basis :lol
I like the aggressiveness of Vassell and Primo, going for it to their limit.
These are the times that you need to expand your limit by going for it while enhancing everything else.
NASpurs
08-04-2021, 07:27 PM
You can tell Primo is going to kill it in the Turkish league in 4 years.
The fact they seem to place so much emphasis on the combine scrimmage with these draft picks lately screams of laziness imo.
I think it screams of Covid.
TheGreatYacht
08-04-2021, 07:29 PM
You can tell Primo is going to kill it in the Turkish league in 4 years.
:lmao
spurraider21
08-04-2021, 07:29 PM
meinkampf with the stupid touch foul
Robz4000
08-04-2021, 07:29 PM
I think it screams of Covid.
They've been doing it since 2012/2013 tbh. They decided to draft Livio Jean-Charles off the fact he played well in a scrimmage.
Kurgan
08-04-2021, 07:29 PM
That Teague guy on the other team looks better than any of our guys
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:30 PM
Vassell playing much more under control I like it.
Haven’t seen anything impressive from Primo as a PG. not ready for that obviously but he didn’t do it in college.
spurraider21
08-04-2021, 07:31 PM
Feel like I'm the only one not impressed with him. He reminds me of Forms and Fathead rolled into one shitty sandwich.
at least fathead was a summer league monster
never had as much fun as that summer league run with fathead and simmons
LaMarcus Bryant
08-04-2021, 07:31 PM
They've been doing it since 2012/2013 tbh. They decided to draft Livio Jean-Charles off the fact he played well in a scrimmage.
Screams of shitty evaluation skills with a GM way over his head
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:32 PM
They've been doing it since 2012/2013 tbh. They decided to draft Livio Jean-Charles off the fact he played well in a scrimmage.
I am alarmed they are still up to that bc that’s great for finding hidden gems late in the first round, but lottery picks?
Primo averaged more turnovers than assists in college too. PATFO probably assumes he can be a playmaker based on one good showing at a combine scrimmage :lol
He's had a few pretty nice (but futile) passes in this game -- this team couldn't throw a pea in the ocean.
Kurgan
08-04-2021, 07:33 PM
They've been doing it since 2012/2013 tbh. They decided to draft Livio Jean-Charles off the fact he played well in a scrimmage.
They're still drafting as if they had late 1sts instead of lottery picks. The Spurs FO never adjusted their methods. Screams laziness and ineptitude.
slick'81
08-04-2021, 07:33 PM
Any box scores? Couldnt find a good stream anywhere:cry
Is primo suave legit yet?
TheGreatYacht
08-04-2021, 07:33 PM
Primo had 1 assist and shot 3-8 in his only combine scrimmage game, that's really the funniest part :lol he didn't blow scouts out of their minds like Livio did
LakerHater
08-04-2021, 07:37 PM
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SAGirl
08-04-2021, 07:39 PM
Wieskamp definitely a shooter that needs shots created for him or plays called. For a dangerous shooter hasn’t been able to get shots.
He’s tall and moves well laterally.
John B
08-04-2021, 07:41 PM
This team was so much different with Tre and Samanic there last year.
LakerHater
08-04-2021, 07:41 PM
So who gonna don 11, Primo or bryn??
Chomag
08-04-2021, 07:47 PM
This team is trash...
And :lol @ Spurs trying to mold Primo into a PG..
Pop's mind games have already begun to screw up this Kid...
spurraider21
08-04-2021, 07:53 PM
Wieskamp definitely a shooter that needs shots created for him or plays called. For a dangerous shooter hasn’t been able to get shots.
He’s tall and moves well laterally.
he needs to be way more active and hustle harder around picks to free himself. he cant just jog to a spot
Cardinal
08-04-2021, 07:57 PM
Primo made solid reads and some good passes out of the pick and roll. He probably would have had 2-3 more assists if his teammates could make an open jumper. He struggled with his handles and that contributed mightily to his turnovers, but he was aggressive and he knew what he wanted to do. The handles can be improved upon in time. All this to say, simply citing the assist to turnover ratio in his first summer league game where he was forced to play PG doesn't really tell us much
RC_Drunkford
08-04-2021, 08:13 PM
They gotta let Primo play PG so he can work on cutting down his TOs. Doesn’t mean that he is a PG, cause he clearly ain’t, he’s a wing. But to work on playmaking skills and court vision he needs to play at PG to develop that part of his game. I like a lot about this kid, but the slow first step is concerning tbh. Not sure if he can improve there through workouts. I hope he keeps growing so he can slide up to SF, where that would be less of a concern
RC_Drunkford
08-04-2021, 08:15 PM
Also Vassell better be showing he worked on his offensive game. Handles, in between scoring and drives to the rim is what he should be working on. Right now he looks like the same player he was last year
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 08:23 PM
Primo made solid reads and some good passes out of the pick and roll. He probably would have had 2-3 more assists if his teammates could make an open jumper. He struggled with his handles and that contributed mightily to his turnovers, but he was aggressive and he knew what he wanted to do. The handles can be improved upon in time. All this to say, simply citing the assist to turnover ratio in his first summer league game where he was forced to play PG doesn't really tell us much
Thanks for your review as I only saw 5 minutes in the 4th from him where he didn’t do much. I noticed he struggled with his handle (but didn’t TO the ball, just got rid of it to a set, not much playmaking at that point.) Vassell was in takeover mode so he stood out way more.
The one observation is that he didn’t seem to have a first step to get around the screen and free himself. I need to watch more.
Cardinal
08-04-2021, 08:29 PM
Thanks for your review as I only saw 5 minutes in the 4th from him where he didn’t do much. I noticed he struggled with his handle (but didn’t TO the ball, just got rid of it to a set, not much playmaking at that point.) Vassell was in takeover mode so he stood out way more.
The one observation is that he didn’t seem to have a first step to get around the screen and free himself. I need to watch more.
Yeah he didn't do much in the fourth when Vassell became the focal point of the offense. But he definitely flashed some skill in the 2nd and 3rd. I agree that his first step was slow throughout the game
SAGirl
08-04-2021, 08:30 PM
Also Vassell better be showing he worked on his offensive game. Handles, in between scoring and drives to the rim is what he should be working on. Right now he looks like the same player he was last year
I want to see them aggressive, like you. it doesn’t matter the mistakes. they’re here to learn.
Degoat
08-04-2021, 08:30 PM
I was quite impressed with Primo! Being 18 and looking to me like one of the best players on the court was impressive
slick'81
08-04-2021, 08:33 PM
Gotta cut those to's down primo. Alot of mixed feelings in here,wonder how he played
Darius Bieber
08-04-2021, 08:37 PM
Did the players not get the memo that the tank is only for the regular season? No need to tank the summer league.
Trill Clinton
08-04-2021, 08:38 PM
Love what I saw from Primo
GAustex
08-04-2021, 08:43 PM
Everything going swell for the tank
Dejounte
08-04-2021, 08:46 PM
They gotta let Primo play PG so he can work on cutting down his TOs. Doesn’t mean that he is a PG, cause he clearly ain’t, he’s a wing. But to work on playmaking skills and court vision he needs to play at PG to develop that part of his game. I like a lot about this kid, but the slow first step is concerning tbh. Not sure if he can improve there through workouts. I hope he keeps growing so he can slide up to SF, where that would be less of a concern
im flip flopping between a combo and a wing. Whatever he is, he looks like a hooper.
Degoat
08-04-2021, 08:47 PM
We’re usually not this bad but if my memory is right we always suck in this Utah SL and start playing really good ball in the Vegas SL
DPG21920
08-04-2021, 09:12 PM
Solid overall by Primo - pretty much the scouting report looked solid. He showed he can hit a 3, had decent handle and some passing, but definitely handle is shaky when pressured, made sloppy decisions and saw that lack of athleticism on that missed dunk. A normal/better nba athlete finishes that.
But overall, very solid.
SPURt
08-04-2021, 09:24 PM
Primo looked good. Clearly underutilized in college. He has a pretty complete game, looked like the best player on the court for much of the time he was on the floor. Nobody was making buckets for the Spurs. Wieskamp has a few surprisingly good defensive possessions. Vassel showed flashes but didn’t dominate the way I had hoped.
DPG21920
08-04-2021, 09:35 PM
Side Note: Kuminga looked damn impressive for GS. Sucks they have a better young core than us and still have Klay/Dray/Curry lol
playblair
08-04-2021, 09:38 PM
We’re usually not this bad but if my memory is right we always suck in this Utah SL and start playing really good ball in the Vegas SL
spurs have been turrible in both summer leagues since becky stopped coaching them
Floyd Pacquiao
08-04-2021, 09:39 PM
Need primo highlights
slick'81
08-04-2021, 09:48 PM
Side Note: Kuminga looked damn impressive for GS. Sucks they have a better young core than us and still have Klay/Dray/Curry lol
Moody tore it up also 19 points 7 boards 2 dimes and 1 to
ace3g
08-04-2021, 09:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E60tS8iT5RA
Atl Spur
08-04-2021, 09:56 PM
Primo has a complete game, will get better and better. Was too relaxed, pops gotta chew that ass! This dude can take it I’m hoping. He could end up being a complete problem.
slick'81
08-04-2021, 10:01 PM
Primo has a complete game, will get better and better. Was too relaxed, pops gotta chew that ass! This dude can take it I’m hoping. He could end up being a complete problem.
Could? You know damn well its game ova nba
rankingtear
08-04-2021, 10:08 PM
Moody tore it up also 19 points 7 boards 2 dimes and 1 to
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Too similar to Vassell, Primo has more on ball upside.
Kurgan
08-04-2021, 10:10 PM
Moody tore it up also 19 points 7 boards 2 dimes and 1 to
Passing on Moody hurts. Has the same size hands as Primo but a longer wingspan and an NBA ready body despite being only half a year older than Primo.
Kurgan
08-04-2021, 10:10 PM
Moody tore it up also 19 points 7 boards 2 dimes and 1 to
Passing on Moody hurts. Has the same size hands as Primo but a longer wingspan and an NBA ready body despite being only half a year older than Primo.
Mr. Body
08-04-2021, 10:12 PM
I don't think Moody is ever more than a role player. I feel like he's close to his ceiling already.
DPG21920
08-04-2021, 10:21 PM
I am not upset at anyone SA passed on at all…I am sure someone will turn out good in that range, but at the time I didn’t care about any of them. Obviously some of the players before SA’ pick however looked solid but they couldn’t move up.
slick'81
08-04-2021, 10:22 PM
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Too similar to Vassell, Primo has more on ball upside.
Long as he cleans up those turnovers, and improves his ball handling ill agree
offset formation
08-04-2021, 10:32 PM
Why come our summerleague teams look by far the most incompetent and devoid of talent of all the NBA teams and its not even close?
Seriously, our team looks slow, un-athletic, and are comprised of poor dribbling and shooting?
This is not a good look for the future.
I'm predicting a 25 win team this year and that's probably being generous.
Indianman
08-04-2021, 10:34 PM
For th folks who've been watching, how's our boy Nate Renfro doing? Has he improved since last season at the G League? Can he compete with KBD for a contract or eat his minutes up? Is he 2-way eligible? I remember him being really fun to watch last season.
slick'81
08-04-2021, 10:34 PM
Why come our summerleague teams look by far the most incompetent and devoid of talent of all the NBA teams and its not even close?
Seriously, our team looks slow, un-athletic, and are comprised of poor dribbling and shooting?
This is not a good look for the future.
I'm predicting a 25 win team this year and that's probably being generous.
didnt help having a18 y/o running pg. some here believe well be a 6th seed :lol
Dejounte
08-04-2021, 10:42 PM
For th folks who've been watching, how's our boy Nate Renfro doing? Has he improved since last season at the G League? Can he compete with KBD for a contract or eat his minutes up? Is he 2-way eligible? I remember him being really fun to watch last season.
he was pretty disappointing, IMO. This is coming from someone who was a big fan. But I’m not going to proclaim that I know he’s gonna be a bust after two games. Probably give it some more games to really assess.
John B
08-04-2021, 11:15 PM
Primo got game. He has very good Bball IQ, very poised. He can score different ways. He’s a a hooper. Of course he’s still very much underdeveloped for NBA body, so that would take time. I heard he’s a scholar of the game and a gym rat. I have a good feeling about this kid just improving a lot.
Primo got game. He has very good Bball IQ, very poised. He can score different ways. He’s a a hooper. Of course he’s still very much underdeveloped for NBA body, so that would take time. I heard he’s a scholar of the game and a gym rat. I have a good feeling about this kid just improving a lot.
a reasonable voice in an otherwise sea of severely disgruntled 'fans' bent on hyperbole and fixations on summer league box scores. also, as thin as his upper body is, his legs are more stout than i'd thought they'd be.
just saw that jordan bell was added to the hawks summer squad; i remember when some of ST was irate that the spurs decided to take white instead of bell.
objective
08-05-2021, 04:52 PM
just saw that jordan bell was added to the hawks summer squad; i remember when some of ST was irate that the spurs decided to take white instead of bell.
He was #1 on my list, think I had White 3rd. Thought Bell had a chance to play spot minutes for a contender, didn't think White or any guard would get a chance as a rookie
Was obviously wrong on Bell, have since adjusted how I view length and size and also touch for bigs. Didn't think he would be a star, but was desperate to see the Spurs add players I thought could give spot minutes on defense. Clearly wrong on that.
jbspurs
08-05-2021, 04:57 PM
Primo got game. He has very good Bball IQ, very poised. He can score different ways. He’s a a hooper. Of course he’s still very much underdeveloped for NBA body, so that would take time. I heard he’s a scholar of the game and a gym rat. I have a good feeling about this kid just improving a lot.
Kid got game! That failed dunk attempt was explosive. I was like, Enough! Time to pull him out before he gets hurt. I just hope Pop gives him minutes right away. He is NBA ready.
He was #1 on my list, think I had White 3rd. Thought Bell had a chance to play spot minutes for a contender, didn't think White or any guard would get a chance as a rookie
Was obviously wrong on Bell, have since adjusted how I view length and size and also touch for bigs. Didn't think he would be a star, but was desperate to see the Spurs add players I thought could give spot minutes on defense. Clearly wrong on that.
kudos for owning it; i was torn on bell. i liked his defense but wasn't sure about his offense. then again, i wasn't sure at all about white.
Harry Callahan
08-05-2021, 05:13 PM
Primo is a pretty big guy (height and wingspan). He's also not afraid to mix it up and draw fouls. He also seemed at least engaged on the defensive end. We'll see what happens.
John B
08-05-2021, 05:16 PM
Kid got game! That failed dunk attempt was explosive. I was like, Enough! Time to pull him out before he gets hurt. I just hope Pop gives him minutes right away. He is NBA ready.
Nah he’s not. He’s skilled but still lacks the NBA body. He would get killed out there :lol
He’ll get there
Chinook
08-05-2021, 05:21 PM
He was #1 on my list, think I had White 3rd. Thought Bell had a chance to play spot minutes for a contender, didn't think White or any guard would get a chance as a rookie
Was obviously wrong on Bell, have since adjusted how I view length and size and also touch for bigs. Didn't think he would be a star, but was desperate to see the Spurs add players I thought could give spot minutes on defense. Clearly wrong on that.
Wait, if you were wrong on Bell, weren't you also wrong on Milutinov?
jk, I thought the same. I hadn't looked into them, but I was adamant about SA needing to draft a big, and Bell was the one people wanted. I changed pretty quickly after hearing RC saying White had untapped potential. But taking and old guard when the team had plenty didn't sit well with me to start out.
objective
08-05-2021, 05:28 PM
Wait, if you were wrong on Bell, weren't you also wrong on Milutinov?
jk, I thought the same. I hadn't looked into them, but I was adamant about SA needing to draft a big, and Bell was the one people wanted. I changed pretty quickly after hearing RC saying White had untapped potential. But taking and old guard when the team had plenty didn't sit well with me to start out.
I've probably watched 20x the games of Milutinov, and he was playing against professionals.
The availability of decent footage for the college game is a lot different now compared to even 5 years ago. Not just YouTube but cloud dvr service. Back then, I could keep Spurs games on my dvr and not much else. But the foreign stuff was much more reliable on YouTube.
Bell's size and how that worked out could have only reflected positively for Milutinov who is a legit big
objective
08-05-2021, 05:34 PM
kudos for owning it; i was torn on bell. i liked his defense but wasn't sure about his offense. then again, i wasn't sure at all about white.
I thought White could play, but felt correctly that no matter what, Pop wouldn't play him. He was possibly the 3rd best guard on that roster but it didn't matter.
Had Bolden second. Believed in the small sample size shooting. Desperate for a big who I thought could defend spot minutes next to Kawhi.
It was all about Kawhi and whoi thought could play in a small role next to him.
I was very big on just getting guys who could fill a role next to the stars. It's why I liked Shelvin Mack over Corey Joseph, I was fine with limited players if I thought they could just do a job. With the roster being different, and the picks being different, I've changed.
jbspurs
08-05-2021, 07:18 PM
Nah he’s not. He’s skilled but still lacks the NBA body. He would get killed out there :lol
He’ll get there
Lacks NBA body? He's not a PF that needs a big body like KJ. Kid is young, not full grown yet. But, his built is more ready compared to other 18 yr old kids not named LBJ who entered the NBA.
jbspurs
08-05-2021, 07:23 PM
Murray/ Bryn/ Tre
White/ Lonnie/ Primo
McDermott/ Vassell/ KBD/ Wieskamp/ Aminu
Keldon/ Young/ Luka/ Collins
Poeltl/ Landale/ Eubanks
Too white!
buttsR4rebounding
08-05-2021, 07:39 PM
Lacks NBA body? He's not a PF that needs a big body like KJ. Kid is young, not full grown yet. But, his built is more ready compared to other 18 yr old kids not named LBJ who entered the NBA.
Barring injuries Primo will be learning to play point guard all year in Austin. If he develops enough with one year in G league to break the rotation next year he may have a high ceiling, but this will be an educational year.
PuzzBeterson
08-05-2021, 08:09 PM
WhAt happened to the 7pm game vs Mem?
Kurik
08-05-2021, 08:11 PM
WhAt happened to the 7pm game vs Mem?
It’s tomorrow, all the teams got a break today.
PuzzBeterson
08-05-2021, 10:40 PM
Pffff here I was, eagerly awaiting tip off for a sl game
ragas
08-06-2021, 03:44 AM
meinkampf with the stupid touch foul
stop it! not funny.
dbestpro
08-06-2021, 08:18 AM
Too white!
Nuff with the racism. You make black people look bad.
raybies
08-06-2021, 02:41 PM
never understood the logic of black ppl being racist to white ppl for being racist... well anyways... while we are on that tangent.
SPURt
08-06-2021, 03:31 PM
Looking at the schedule, Spurs play Memphis at 7 pm est/4 pm pst, but… nba tv will show it at 11:30 pm est/ 8:30 pm
pst? Am I seeing that right?
TXstbobcat
08-06-2021, 03:46 PM
Looking at the schedule, Spurs play Memphis at 7 pm est/4 pm pst, but… nba tv will show it at 11:30 pm est/ 8:30 pm
pst? Am I seeing that right?
it’s also on live at 6 pm central on ESPNU
SPURt
08-06-2021, 04:15 PM
it’s also on live at 6 pm central on ESPNU
Thank you!!! I didn’t want to watch it as a rerun
Blackhaus
08-06-2021, 04:30 PM
Is Vassel, Primo and Jones playing??
Dejounte
08-06-2021, 04:37 PM
Vassell was doing a lot of ISO scoring in his first game. I wonder if that’s what he’s trying to accomplish. To be an ISO scorer. His shots in midrange look good. Pull up 3s or off the dribble 3s not so much, but I like that he’s trying.
BillMc
08-06-2021, 04:59 PM
Is there likely to be a stream someone can share for this game? If not, I'll skip it and get some sleep. 1 AM here.
Cardinal
08-06-2021, 05:06 PM
Unfortunately Jones is still out, but Vassell, Primo, and Wieskamp are available. I'm interested in Primo getting in another game at PG
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Unfortunately Jones is still out, but Vassell, Primo, and Wieskamp are available. I'm interested in Primo getting in another game at PG
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the one positive about jones being out is that it allows for primo to get some added time handling the ball.
ace3g
08-06-2021, 05:10 PM
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Tre Jones, Anthony Mathis, Matt Mitchell and Zach Norvell are out for the Spurs as they take on the Grizzlies in their Salt Lake City Summer League finale.
Dejounte
08-06-2021, 05:11 PM
the one positive about jones being out is that it allows for primo to get some added time handling the ball.
yeah, something he’s not comfortable with yet
Dejounte
08-06-2021, 05:39 PM
Vassell looks thicker
Sugus
08-06-2021, 05:41 PM
So the game's at 6pm Central time? In 20 minutes more or less? Great... Hope it gets streamed so I can watch it, I have no cable
BillMc
08-06-2021, 05:44 PM
So the game's at 6pm Central time? In 20 minutes more or less? Great... Hope it gets streamed so I can watch it, I have no cable
If anyone has a stream, please let us know.
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 05:44 PM
Vassell was doing a lot of ISO scoring in his first game. I wonder if that’s what he’s trying to accomplish. To be an ISO scorer. His shots in midrange look good. Pull up 3s or off the dribble 3s not so much, but I like that he’s trying.
any halfway decent nba rotation player should be crushing the summer league. he's been disappointing imo
Dejounte
08-06-2021, 05:47 PM
So the game's at 6pm Central time? In 20 minutes more or less? Great... Hope it gets streamed so I can watch it, I have no cable
what is the recorder you mentioned in this thread? Or anyone know how to record games?
Chomag
08-06-2021, 05:48 PM
Hopefully Primo looks more comfortable and assertive out there today.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:05 PM
Nice dribble jump shot Primo
ace3g
08-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Primo start for the Spurs
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Spurs looking more poised in this game thus far
Degoat
08-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Primo & Vassell off to a good start!
Manu&Duncan fan
08-06-2021, 06:08 PM
Nuff with the racism. You make black people look bad.
+1
ace3g
08-06-2021, 06:08 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1423782390800035840
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1423782814202437643
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:10 PM
anybody need the stream? I can send y'all the link
Sugus
08-06-2021, 06:12 PM
what is the recorder you mentioned in this thread? Or anyone know how to record games?
You mean OBS Software? You can Google it, it's pretty well-known screen-and-sound recording software, and had a huge boost in popularity the last 2 years due to its simplicity of use and people wanting to record their pandemic online classes. I'm not savvy enough to give you a tutorial but it's plenty straightforward :)
E: Officially called OBS Studio btw, Google-Fu turns it up in an instant
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:16 PM
Vassell jump shot looks really good. He’s put in time!
I like vessel taking on that iso role. I really think he has that in him. He's super competitive, I think that's what drives his great team defense. Has that dog in him.
I hope he's trying to let them know he ain't feeling that Forbes bs :lol
Play that man.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:19 PM
If Vassel plays behind Forbes....
niraj2000
08-06-2021, 06:20 PM
Primo will get the mid range jumper all his life...Good vibes
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:21 PM
It's obvious the Spurs want him to work on his scoring to be more versatile instead of just being a 3-and-D player. That's exactly what he should be working on. That's why he's isoing
ismael-robert
08-06-2021, 06:21 PM
Just post link it's summer league
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:23 PM
http://livetv.sx/dex/eventinfo/1096548_memphis_san_antonio/
niraj2000
08-06-2021, 06:23 PM
Primo is showing nice defensive fundamentals
emanueldavidginobili
08-06-2021, 06:24 PM
I’m liking Primos defense so far.
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:25 PM
Primo already impressing people
ace3g
08-06-2021, 06:26 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1423787427827752963
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:26 PM
Primo has that beautiful high arcing shot The type that looks more like its floating
DPG21920
08-06-2021, 06:27 PM
Primo reminds me a lot of Kyle Anderson. Obviously he’s already a way better shooter but he reminds me of Kyle.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:27 PM
Primo made an impressive turnaround jump shot. Hes got a smooth shot
BacktoBasics
08-06-2021, 06:27 PM
I agree Primo looks good. Showing some creativity and heady play.
The real shortcoming I see is that he lacks explosiveness. Curious how this game will translate to the pro level. Obviously not as bad as Kyle but it’s definitely lacking.
duncan2150
08-06-2021, 06:28 PM
Primo reminds me a lot of Kyle Anderson. Obviously he’s already a way better shooter but he reminds me of Kyle.
In terms of IQ or another thing ?
Jsmythe
08-06-2021, 06:28 PM
You can watch the game at https://www.espn.com/watch if you have a cable TV subscription.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:29 PM
Showing that he is taking a leadership roll , I'm liking that
Rito3d30
08-06-2021, 06:29 PM
Primo is really confident yet in control, ball handling needs to be tightened up a little
Spurs may have found another hidden gem again
Degoat
08-06-2021, 06:30 PM
Primo setting up guys nice!
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:30 PM
I hope Pop doesn’t mess with his confidence. He could play this year if a coach was willing. I am sure a team like Memphis would play him righ away
DPG21920
08-06-2021, 06:31 PM
In terms of IQ or another thing ?
Many things. Just calm and smooth and not fast but in control and gets to where he needs to go
duncan2150
08-06-2021, 06:32 PM
Many things. Just calm and smooth and not fast but in control and gets to where he needs to go
Yes totally agree, really calm , natural player.
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:33 PM
some nice passes from Primo out of the pick & roll
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:33 PM
Primo is getting triple teamed out there
Primo reminds me a lot of Kyle Anderson. Obviously he’s already a way better shooter but he reminds me of Kyle.
I thought the same at first but I now think he's more electric.
He reminds me a bit of the Iceman George Gervin, another skinny not overtly athletic baller.
I don't think it's too early to say, Primo's gonna be good (maybe not Iceman good, but good).
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:35 PM
This now looking like summer league with the TO both ways. Jeffries has played better today.
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 06:38 PM
Primo definitely has some upside as a playmaker/defender but that handle needs a lot more work. He also doesn't have any explosiveness whatsoever.
Degoat
08-06-2021, 06:38 PM
I know his percentage isn’t very great so far but I’m confident Vassell can hit shots, I really want to see him be a better finisher in the paint with layups
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:39 PM
Primo definitely has some upside as a playmaker/defender but that handle needs a lot more work. He also doesn't have any explosiveness whatsoever.
Agree, but his shot is silky smooth and hes 18. That handle can get much tighter and better. Dejounte in SL was really awful his first time I remember.
El Santo
08-06-2021, 06:40 PM
I hope Pop doesn’t mess with his confidence. He could play this year if a coach was willing. I am sure a team like Memphis would play him righ away
I think we all know pop needs him to get over himself... before playing
buttsR4rebounding
08-06-2021, 06:40 PM
I hope Pop doesn’t mess with his confidence. He could play this year if a coach was willing. I am sure a team like Memphis would play him righ away
A year in the G-League will do him a world of good. Barring injury I doubt we see him this year.
ace3g
08-06-2021, 06:42 PM
Primo's game reminds me of Wade.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:42 PM
Yeah Primos first step burst is what is concerning, he is going to need to up that somehow for the Pro level
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:43 PM
is that McDermott's brother playing for Memphis? :lol
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 06:43 PM
nice oop finish by vassell, but overall tbh i havent been impressed with him. im not sure he's ever going to be a plus 3 point shooter. his delivery is awkward and it isnt a quick stroke
also wieskamp is no good
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:44 PM
Overall really happy with both Vassell and Primo. Both teams at times making summer league plays, specially sloppy passes that get picked up … SL TO.
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 06:45 PM
Primo's game reminds me of Wade.
at wade's current age, maybe
really he looks like an undersized fathead. the lack of burst is evident
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:45 PM
I hope Pop doesn’t mess with his confidence. He could play this year if a coach was willing. I am sure a team like Memphis would play him righ away
:pop: it wouldn't be fair to Brian Forbes
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:47 PM
Lol woops
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:47 PM
Outside of Vessel and Primo this roster is pure trash
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 06:48 PM
Yeah, that white boy we drafted is a nothing player. Another 2nd round bust from the Spurs FO but it's expected at this point. We haven't had a successful 2nd round pick since Blair who was a no brainer
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 06:49 PM
Vassell not being able to score against G-Leaguers means he's still who he was last year. I don't see any improvements here.
duncan2150
08-06-2021, 06:50 PM
at wade's current age, maybe
really he looks like an undersized fathead. the lack of burst is evident
they really don't have similar speed. Lack of burst ok but not ala K Anderson.
Degoat
08-06-2021, 06:50 PM
Pretty poor 2nd quarter, refs ain’t calling shit for us tbh tho
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 06:51 PM
Didn't Devin say he worked on his handles this summer? I don't see any noticeable improvement
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 06:51 PM
Vassell not being able to score against G-Leaguers means he's still who he was last year. I don't see any improvements here.
yeah, i dont get why people have been impressed with him, either with his rookie season or so far this summer league. at least he's still just 20
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:52 PM
I dont mind Vassell working through his game and decision making. That is what this is for.
I’d get Primo some coaching with Kyle tbh. Dude has no first step but gets where he wants to bc of deceptively good handle. I think Primo can improve. He doesnt have much burst, but can learn to be crafty.
Oveerall though. I love his jumpshot and is a player that plays under control.
PhantomDashCam
08-06-2021, 06:53 PM
It looks like Vassell’s shot has been tweaked slightly, quicker into his goose neck with less of a wind up.
The results have been mixed thus far but this will allow him to get into shots off the dribble from range with regularity.
siraulo23
08-06-2021, 06:53 PM
:tu because Vassell and Primo gets to handle the ball and shoot a lot.
Oth, move the ball a little bit dear god :lol
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 06:54 PM
i wash hoping vassell would get stronger and be a more confident ball handler, but really he looks identical to last season which frankly wasn't a promising year
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 06:54 PM
Didn't Devin say he worked on his handles this summer? I don't see any noticeable improvement
I dont see playmaking from him at all. That is why the announcer says hes becoming too predictable. No passing.. but that is why hes here. To learn to make reads.
I have liked his midrange shot a lot. Hes looked better to me at least.
siraulo23
08-06-2021, 06:55 PM
Primo is very young and raw but better than I expected.
He is showing some things that sort of justify the pick at 12, yea sort of.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 06:57 PM
I dont mind Vassell working through his game and decision making. That is what this is for.
I’d get Primo some coaching with Kyle tbh. Dude has no first step but gets where he wants to bc of deceptively good handle. I think Primo can improve. He doesnt have much burst, but can learn to be crafty.
Oveerall though. I love his jumpshot and is a player that plays under control.
True, but Kyle was more a Forward while Primo is a guard, can a slow footed guard survive in the modern NBA?
LakerHater
08-06-2021, 06:58 PM
https://images2.imgbox.com/21/f0/56Qugj67_o.gif
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:00 PM
Dang....Spurs getting destroyed now
Primo is very young and raw but better than I expected.
He is showing some things that sort of justify the pick at 12, yea sort of.
The alternatives weren't that great.
I wanted Giddey or Bouknight but they were gone at 12.
Moody? No downside but almost certainly a career 3&D guy.
Duarte and Kispert -- not much upside.
Sengun? Big gamble.
I might have rolled the dice on Kai Jones, but since Bouknight went at 11, this was pretty much an 11 deep draft.
Degoat
08-06-2021, 07:01 PM
Cup of Joe can’t stay in front of anyone lol
Degoat
08-06-2021, 07:02 PM
Primo & Vassell will play much better once Tre Jones plays
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:03 PM
I wish Jones was playing so we could see how well Primo moves around without the ball, like see how well he can work around screens to get open.
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 07:06 PM
Primo's game reminds me of Wade.
Strange comparison considering Wade was one of the most explosive players of his era
emanueldavidginobili
08-06-2021, 07:06 PM
True, but Kyle was more a Forward while Primo is a guard, can a slow footed guard survive in the modern NBA?
His foot speed is no where close to being slow. He plays at his own pace also watch on defense at his foot speed he’s been solely staying in front of his man all night due to using his feet.
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:08 PM
it's not foot speed, it's the lack of speed on his first step meaning he ccould struggle to blow by his defenders in the NBA. The jury is still out though
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:09 PM
On another note: Vassell is getting destroyed out there
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:09 PM
Man, those dudes on ESPN are picking Vassal apart lol
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:10 PM
Man, those dudes on ESPN are picking Vassal apart lol
those players on the Memphis Grizzlies Summer League team are too tbh
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:11 PM
Spurs down 17...
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 07:11 PM
Vassell pounding the air out of the ball every possession. Terrible game from him
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:11 PM
Announcers making the case for letting guys get some seasoning in the NBA… lol Yea I agree.
VAssell has to improve his passing. He got intimidated.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:13 PM
The showboating lol Bane.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:13 PM
those players on the Memphis Grizzlies Summer League team are too tbh
:lol:toast
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:13 PM
Vassell pounding the air out of the ball every possession. Terrible game from him
Sometimes the terrible games are the ones that teach you the most. I am hoping he learns the lesson this game thought him.
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:17 PM
Spurs have no creativity in their offense
JeffDuncan
08-06-2021, 07:19 PM
Spurs have no creativity in their offense
Sounds all too familiar...
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:19 PM
Spurs have no creativity in their offense
that's by design. They want Vassell to develop his scoring, not win the game
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:20 PM
Vassel has been hanging around Derozen too much :lol
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:21 PM
^ lol
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 07:22 PM
Vassel has been hanging around Derozen too much :lol
DeRozan and Gay...I'm glad they're both gone
PhantomDashCam
08-06-2021, 07:24 PM
Jeffries really competes. Wish he was more of a shooter. Not sure he makes our team but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him latch on somewhere.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:25 PM
Vassell’s jumpshot from the midrange looks really good and hes got long arms, he has also been able to get to his spots off the dribble. The problem is that he needs to mix things up with some passing. One thing at a time I guess. Overall I have liked him. Things to work on which is just fine.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:26 PM
Jeffries has had his best game.
Rito3d30
08-06-2021, 07:27 PM
Vassell is so gasssssssssed
Really poor condition into the SL
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:27 PM
Labissiere hasn’t shown diddly squat
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:28 PM
Vassell’s jumpshot from the midrange looks really good and hes got long arms, he has also been able to get to his spots off the dribble. The problem is that he needs to mix things up with some passing. One thing at a time I guess. Overall I have liked him. Things to work on which is just fine.
it looks good when he curls to the freethrow line and gets a catch and shoot. Clearly needs to work on those off the dribble pull ups, but that's exactly what he should develop next, so good to see he's working on it
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:29 PM
Vassell playing great. Now if he could only hit a 3
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:31 PM
Primo is confident shooting and that’s the second 3 off the dribble?
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:31 PM
Primo def has no problem putting the ball in the hoop
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:33 PM
Ok guys getting too many 3s and missing… sigh Somebody take it to the rim!
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:33 PM
there's no reason why Forbes should get minutes over Primo, but we all know he will
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:34 PM
Good decision by Vassell to drive there on the switch. I liked that.
TheCultOfPersonality
08-06-2021, 07:34 PM
is that McDermott's brother playing for Memphis? :lol
No.
I don't think they're related.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:35 PM
there's no reason why Forbes should get minutes over Primo, but we all know he will
I dont think that would happen in any other team tbh. Only the Spurs,
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:37 PM
I dont think that would happen in any other team tbh. Only the Spurs,
:pop:
Kurgan
08-06-2021, 07:37 PM
there's no reason why Forbes should get minutes over Primo, but we all know he will
Unfortunately, the Forbes signing means Primo will spend all of next year in G-League purgatory
lefty20
08-06-2021, 07:40 PM
That is one wet jumper, tbh.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:41 PM
Primo has absolutely been impressive… just 18 years old. Good call GM Wright!
RC_Drunkford
08-06-2021, 07:41 PM
Primo with 17 points. Natural scorer
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:42 PM
Primo looks great,and soo does devin. Color me happy
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:42 PM
Primo with 17 points. Natural scorer
Again no trouble putting the ball in the hoop. Spurs can use a confident scorer with range
Chomag
08-06-2021, 07:45 PM
This was a growing up game for Primo
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:45 PM
That was a fun game.
Mr. Body
08-06-2021, 07:45 PM
Primo should be entering college as a freshman this year.
Sugus
08-06-2021, 07:46 PM
Only got to watch the second half, but damn, I'm officially on the Primo bandwagon. Amazing half from him. He makes really quick decisions on the ball, especially for passing - the rest of the Spurs' shooters' cold night robbed him of a couple of highlight assists on really crafty passes. And his shooting's as good as advertised, he was making shots all half, even in crunch time. That kinda poise and calmness isn't so easy to find on 18yo's... Kid's got a good set of tools to work with.
I think the criticisms on his first step are warranted, but kind of overblown. People ITT talking about it like he couldn't blow past a high schooler, and it's just not true. Especially with his craftyness-based game... Guy ain't no Slo-Mo. His handles need work but are really advanced already, especially those cross-leg moves, he's really good at throwing the defender off the loop. I see a lot of broken ankles in Primo's future - and not his own.
Vassell, I liked less of. Clearly forcing things, but that's SL for you. I didn't watch enough of him to give a fair assessment, and given he'll have his time in the NBA unlike Primo this season, I'll wait to see what he does against elite competition before passing judgement. The takeaway I got today is that he really likes, and can sink, midrange shots. Someone's gotta carry on the DeRozan legacy, after all... :lol
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:46 PM
Primo should be entering college as a freshman this year.
Son of a bitch,im in
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:47 PM
I like Desmond. There will be some great battles… lol he gave Vassell and Primo their due.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:47 PM
Son of a bitch,im in
:bobo
Kurik
08-06-2021, 07:48 PM
Primo reminds me of a shorter Khris Middleton who also struggled at first with a slow first step but made it work.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:49 PM
Unfortunately, the Forbes signing means Primo will spend all of next year in G-League purgatory
:pctoss:pctoss
slick'81
08-06-2021, 07:49 PM
27/8/2/1 for devin :clap 1/10 from deep:bang
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 07:50 PM
Primo reminds me of a shorter Khris Middleton who also struggled at first with a slow first step but made it work.
That’s a great comparison. Great shotmakers.
siraulo23
08-06-2021, 07:50 PM
that 3rd quarter yikes
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 07:51 PM
vassell looks like he's ready for another rough season
Rito3d30
08-06-2021, 07:52 PM
So What's up with Tre?
Will he be playing in Vegas?
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 07:52 PM
Primo reminds me of a shorter Khris Middleton who also struggled at first with a slow first step but made it work.
middleton has elite length though
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 07:53 PM
So What's up with Tre?
Will he be playing in Vegas?
think he had a concussion. should be ready by vegas. looking to see if he's made a leap. usually guys who have become good enough to be NBA rotation players crush it in summer league. so far vassell has disappointed, maybe tre can be the difference maker
duncan2150
08-06-2021, 07:56 PM
Like what i saw from Primo and Vassell
Vassell is forcing his game, having the ball a lot and playing like a team first option. That's far from his role in the NBA but he will have the benefits of that aftewards.
Primo made some waw shoots for me, considering his age, first games with the spurs... still some work on the handle, some decisions but i really like this guy... looks special.
slick'81
08-06-2021, 08:04 PM
vassell looks like he's ready for another rough season
Wasnt he an elie shooter in college? What happend to his shot
duncan2150
08-06-2021, 08:05 PM
Wasnt he an elie shooter in college? What happend to his shot
he's taking some bad shots by playing out of his natural game.
Trill Clinton
08-06-2021, 08:05 PM
Very impressed with Primo and Vassell.
BackHome
08-06-2021, 08:17 PM
Yeah the coaches are telling the players to go out there and try and do different things they want them reach and not play it safe.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 08:18 PM
https://images2.imgbox.com/21/f0/56Qugj67_o.gif
Crafty in the air. Some MJ vibes. Thanks for the gif. :toast
JeffDuncan
08-06-2021, 08:22 PM
A highlight reel finish of a bad lob.
SAGirl
08-06-2021, 08:24 PM
it's not foot speed, it's the lack of speed on his first step meaning he ccould struggle to blow by his defenders in the NBA. The jury is still out though
I agree on this.. its kind of…I’d say burst.. the twitch. Dejounte had super burst, very noticeably in SL. He had no handle, high dribble horrible shot, but he was so incredibly quick… one step and he was gone. The good thing about SL is that bc of competition level, some of these things stand out more.
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 08:29 PM
Wasnt he an elie shooter in college? What happend to his shot
his shot never looks crisp to me. its a weird motion and kind of slowish. not all college shooters translate to the pros. not to mention he was like a 70% FT shooter in college, so definitely not a pure shooter.
compare it to like... mcdermott's shooting form. for all his issues, his shot is crisp af
spurraider21
08-06-2021, 08:30 PM
but yeah, that alley-oop finish by vassell was slick
BillMc
08-06-2021, 08:42 PM
Slept through the game. How'd the guys look?
slick'81
08-06-2021, 08:46 PM
Slept through the game. How'd the guys look?
Jump on the primo suave train before its too late
BillMc
08-06-2021, 08:47 PM
Jump on the primo suave train before its too late
I'll buy a ticket today!
BillMc
08-06-2021, 08:47 PM
Why is Devin supposedly out of shape?
BillMc
08-06-2021, 08:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8T5HYTOeWI
slick'81
08-06-2021, 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8T5HYTOeWI
18 fckn years old:wow
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