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Chomag
08-12-2021, 12:29 PM
Any update on who is playing today? Are we still load managing the kids?

emanueldavidginobili
08-12-2021, 01:29 PM
Looks like Devin is out tonight

Russ
08-12-2021, 02:05 PM
Nobody is playing.

This actually is tanking in the Summer League.

Degoat
08-12-2021, 02:05 PM
No Josh Primo today either, fuck the spurs lol

emanueldavidginobili
08-12-2021, 02:09 PM
I'm really liking what I am seeing from Tre Jones.

Kurgan
08-12-2021, 02:17 PM
No Josh Primo today either, fuck the spurs lol

:lol load managing an 18 year old.

Can Spurs ever draft someone that can stay healthy?

J_Paco
08-12-2021, 02:23 PM
They've probably seen enough of him in - game action, he's signed his rookie deal and they can start on a pre - preseason regiment or he can get in scrimmages with his teammates.

It sucks cause I wanted to see him play live too, but getting work in with his teammates or the development staff is a lot more critical.

They also probably want to see some other prospects get some run for the G - League team.

J_Paco
08-12-2021, 02:25 PM
:lol load managing an 18 year old.

Can Spurs ever draft someone that can stay healthy?

He isn't hurt, genius.

He's likely been shut down cause they've seen enough through 4 games and he can get work in in San Antonio.

SPURt
08-12-2021, 02:26 PM
Kai Jones just murdered Renfro

Blackhaus
08-12-2021, 02:27 PM
That’s ridiculous

Degoat
08-12-2021, 02:31 PM
I’d like to see the spurs really develop Joe Wieskamp, Tre playing like a boss today!

Spurs Homer
08-12-2021, 02:34 PM
I'm really liking what I am seeing from Tre Jones.


he is a strict G leaguer

Seventyniner
08-12-2021, 02:36 PM
Tre is being featured here. I'm impressed by his finishing ability, and he even knocked down another three. He definitely looks like an NBA third-string PG at the absolute worst, and is young enough be able to improve to a solid backup. I'd be surprised if he ever turns into a reliable starter, but getting a Cory Joseph at #41 is something you take every day.

Dejounte
08-12-2021, 02:44 PM
Tre is outplaying Bouknight

Seventyniner
08-12-2021, 02:48 PM
Tre is listed at 6'1", but he doesn't look that short out there compared to the other players on the court. Are the other players just not that tall? Or maybe it's just camera angles?

D-Robinson 50 fan
08-12-2021, 02:49 PM
Trae Jones can play

he should get run with our actual NBA team this season but he most likely will not. SMH

J_Paco
08-12-2021, 02:51 PM
If Tre can hone in a becoming even a decent three-point shooter (32% - 35%), then he can easily become a solid back up PG. He's carrying the team, today, and Wieskamp has finally started hitting outside shots.

If Wieskamp works on the stuff Timvp spoke of in his breakdown, then that guy could also have a solid role and future in the NBA.

Leetonidas
08-12-2021, 02:56 PM
it's funny how Tre can score 20+ points and no one bats an eye, but Sengun puts up 21 points and everyone loses their mind :lol

Mr. Body
08-12-2021, 02:57 PM
Tre Jones' floor was his brother, I felt, and his brother has been a good backup/spot starter. The kid knows how to play. He has limitations, of course, but he has strength and low center of gravity, enabling him to drive on players, and he knows how to set up an offense reasonably well.

Chinook
08-12-2021, 02:58 PM
I would be confident that Primo was being traded if it were possible. It's not, so no or at least not yet. Vassell on the other hand could be traded.

Primo being shut down because PATFO has seen enough or whatever is unlikely. That's not how it tends to work with rookies or even second-year players.

Chinook
08-12-2021, 02:59 PM
it's funny how Tre can score 20+ points and no one bats an eye, but Sengun puts up 21 points and everyone loses their mind :lol

There's a huge difference between rookies and sophomores in the SL. Wieskamp will dominate the league in 2022 when it's his turn to be featured.

FvckMavs
08-12-2021, 03:00 PM
wish them use the money to sign KBD instead of Bryn Forbes and give the backup PG time to Tre Jones.

Dejounte
08-12-2021, 03:01 PM
I would be confident that Primo was being traded if it were possible. It's not, so no or at least not yet. Vassell on the other hand could be traded.

Primo being shut down because PATFO has seen enough or whatever is unlikely. That's not how it tends to work with rookies or even second-year players.

Once again, Tre has nothing to do with Primo and neither does Murray.

Leetonidas
08-12-2021, 03:01 PM
There's a huge difference between rookies and sophomores in the SL. Wieskamp will dominate the league in 2022 when it's his turn to be featured.

I guess, but Jones didn't have a normal rookie season, nor did he play much at all with the big boys. I'm just pointing out how quick guys are to overvalue other teams' summer league performances while undervaluing our guys

Chinook
08-12-2021, 03:02 PM
Once again, Tre has nothing to do with Primo and neither does Murray.

Neither was mentioned or even referred to in my post. It's really weird that you responded with this.

Sugus
08-12-2021, 03:17 PM
Pain in the ass that today's game is so early. Can't watch. Well, everyone I wanted to watch is out, so it's a wash I guess. Interesting that Tre keeps doing well.... He's a consistent 3pt jumper away from a years-long career in the NBA.

J_Paco
08-12-2021, 03:19 PM
Spurs SL team about to surrender another lead.

I didn't spot the calf issue with Primo, so my bad assuming they had shut him down.

Still, he has shown enough for me to be excited about his future.

objective
08-12-2021, 03:35 PM
Why are some Twitter people on site saying Primo is out with knee soreness if he's healthy scratch?

Who is right?

Sugus
08-12-2021, 03:36 PM
I don't like Tre's tendency to avoid shooting 3s at all. They're a quintessential part of the game nowadays, especially for a PG, especially for an undersized one - you can't be shying away from taking them, particularly in low-stakes situations like SL. You should be taking those shots whenever you can. Right there, at the end of the 3rd, 10 seconds on the clock and him handling the ball - he came ridiculously close to a ISO pullup 3..... Then bailed out of it in favor of driving at the last second, resulting in a predictable turnover.

Kid ain't gonna make it in the big league unless he gains confidence in his jumper.

Seventyniner
08-12-2021, 03:58 PM
Is it just me or is Tre getting beaten off the dribble depressingly easily. It's happened to Wieskamp too but I expected that of him.

Leetonidas
08-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Tre with the probable game winner

Sugus
08-12-2021, 04:04 PM
God damn, Tre :wow

LeBowen
08-12-2021, 04:05 PM
Feels like this game will never end.

Great game by Tre, but we already got our guy, Brent Forms. Unlucky really.

EasyMoney
08-12-2021, 04:07 PM
"See that, Bryn? That is what i expect of you this season."https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/popemote.gif

spurs10
08-12-2021, 04:08 PM
Good win and great game! Tre seems like a great guy.
:flag:

Chomag
08-12-2021, 04:08 PM
If Tre gets barried behind Forbes I'm going to officially lose it!

John B
08-12-2021, 04:09 PM
Win 106-105 :ihit. Tre with 34 points, 9 assist and 8 boards

I’m impressed most with his scoring at all facets. I really like this kid especially if we’ll lose one of the guards to trades.

Kurik
08-12-2021, 04:10 PM
Such a shame we have Forbes.

John B
08-12-2021, 04:11 PM
Good day Patty

rjv
08-12-2021, 04:12 PM
it's funny how Tre can score 20+ points and no one bats an eye, but Sengun puts up 21 points and everyone loses their mind :lol

:lol ST relativism

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 04:13 PM
I don't think Forbes is competing with Tre... at all. These comments about Forbes cutting into Tre's minutes don't seem very likely to materialize imo. There was a brief stint where Forbes played PG for us, but that was when we were absolutely hammered by injury... we had just moved on from Parker, and both DeJounte and White were out with injury. He's only an emergency option at PG. Pop almost exclusively played him at the 2

There are two scenarios:

a) Pop continues starting the Murray/White backcourt.

In this scenario, Mills' departure opens the door for Tre to become the backup PG with no real competition. I'm sure Murray/White will stagger some to give White some PG minutes, but that role would almost certainly go to Tre, or at least he'd have every opportunity to secure that role. The main competition here is Forbes vs Walker for the primary backup SG role, alongside a PG rotation of Murray/White/Jones

b) Pop abandons the Murray/White backcourt, and White goes to the bench

In this scenario the real battle is over the SG role... with Forbes and Lonnie competing for the starting spot (we all know who Pop will prefer, here). In this scenario, White plays more PG than scenario A, and that limits Tre's minutes.

TD 21
08-12-2021, 04:14 PM
If Tre gets barried behind Forbes I'm going to officially lose it!

I still expect Forbes, Walker IV and Vassell to all enter camp ahead of him, but he'll push all for minutes and either way they'll obviously be plenty of absences from the six rotational 1-3 options, so he'll receive plenty of opportunity.

If he's not the best play maker in the organization, he's a close second to White and one of the few high IQ players on this team.

Sugus
08-12-2021, 04:15 PM
I know we all melted down over the Forbes signing, and I'm absolutely approaching his role on the team with a prove-me-wrong skepticism.... But is it really so cut in stone that he'll leapfrog all of our guards, and go back to being the ol' 18-19 Forbes that we came to loathe?

I'm not so sure anymore, especially after these "breakout" games from Tre. Granted, Tre wouldn't be the first young Spur to have a great string of games only to not be rewarded for it (or even reprimanded for it - Luka, Lonnie :depressed....). But I'm maybe even more skeptical that these good showings haven't at least earned him a place in the rotation. He's gotta hit his 3s, but he lacks nothing else really. I could see him backing up DJ and Forbes used (hopefully sparingly) as a SG, backing up White maybe, so there wouldn't be overlap between both.

Now Lonnie, that's a different story...

Sugus
08-12-2021, 04:16 PM
I don't think Forbes is competing with Tre... at all. These comments about Forbes cutting into Tre's minutes don't seem very likely to materialize imo. There was a brief stint where Forbes played PG for us, but that was when we were absolutely hammered by injury... we had just moved on from Parker, and both DeJounte and White were out with injury. He's only an emergency option at PG. Pop almost exclusively played him at the 2

There are two scenarios:

a) Pop continues starting the Murray/White backcourt.

In this scenario, Mills' departure opens the door for Tre to become the backup PG with no real competition. I'm sure Murray/White will stagger some to give White some PG minutes, but that role would almost certainly go to Tre, or at least he'd have every opportunity to secure that role. The main competition here is Forbes vs Walker for the primary backup SG role, alongside a PG rotation of Murray/White/Jones

b) Pop abandons the Murray/White backcourt, and White goes to the bench

In this scenario the real battle is over the SG role... with Forbes and Lonnie competing for the starting spot (we all know who Pop will prefer, here). In this scenario, White plays more PG than scenario A, and that limits Tre's minutes.

Beat me to the punch with this :lol :tu

Leetonidas
08-12-2021, 04:17 PM
34/8/9 :wow

Aggie Hoopsfan
08-12-2021, 04:19 PM
I know we all melted down over the Forbes signing, and I'm absolutely approaching his role on the team with a prove-me-wrong skepticism.... But is it really so cut in stone that he'll leapfrog all of our guards, and go back to being the ol' 18-19 Forbes that we came to loathe?

I'm not so sure anymore, especially after these "breakout" games from Tre. Granted, Tre wouldn't be the first young Spur to have a great string of games only to not be rewarded for it (or even reprimanded for it - Luka, Lonnie :depressed....). But I'm maybe even more skeptical that these good showings haven't at least earned him a place in the rotation. He's gotta hit his 3s, but he lacks nothing else really. I could see him backing up DJ and Forbes used (hopefully sparingly) as a SG, backing up White maybe, so there wouldn't be overlap between both.

Now Lonnie, that's a different story...

You think Pop won't be spooning with Brynn on road trips and feeding each other grapes to get over the losses? Come on.

Most here were excited about the youth/tank movement, then he brings this scab back.

TheGreatYacht
08-12-2021, 04:22 PM
:lol at anyone that doesn’t think Forbes will absolutely steal minutes from Jones. He was brought in to be Patty’s replacement. Plain and simple. No need to overthink it.

Forbes, Walker, Vassell, McDermott/Thad, Jock

Anyone that knows Pop knows Tre jones isn’t beating anyone in that bench unit for minutes. He’s a fucking idiot.

John B
08-12-2021, 04:25 PM
He was equally impressive at the Bubble. But understandably got lost in the rotation with our vets. But being a 2nd rounder, and still saw some minutes, was unheard of from Pop. He really saw something in Tre, ahead of Queen Dairy. I really hope he continues his scoring, especially since Lonnie is still iffy with decision making and can play the SG instead. This makes Patty departure as 6th man possible.

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 04:25 PM
Tre Jones looking this good is what we needed to see for this year. Primo, unfortunately, was drafted as a Samanic-esque project who isn't expected to really play until year 3 or something (which is a stupid way of drafting first round picks, but here we are). Wieskamp is likely a 2-way guy who is basically just going to prepare to become McBucket's backup at some point. With Samanic not participating, Jones and Vassell were the only potential rotation guy out there, and they should be dominating his competition, so good to see at least Jones. Still think he's going to need a better jump shot to survive in the NBA, but it's hard to complain too much based on his overall game.

Vassell... sheesh.

Sugus
08-12-2021, 04:31 PM
You think Pop won't be spooning with Brynn on road trips and feeding each other grapes to get over the losses? Come on.

Most here were excited about the youth/tank movement, then he brings this scab back.

I definitely think they'll be spooning to get over the losses late at night :lol

But no, I don't necessarily think Forbes will take minutes from Tre, because they don't play the same role at all on the team. Tre is a backup PG and playmaker, also providing driving and scoring secondary abilities, whilst Forbes is a shooting-only SG who does little else on the court. Even in the modern "positionless" era, their roles on a team are different, and they should even be perfectly able to share the court together.

Again, I think Forbes will definitely end up stealing someone's minutes, but it's much more likely to be Lonnie's tbh.

John B
08-12-2021, 04:32 PM
What’s up with Vassell though? I’m concern with his lack of conditioning

emanueldavidginobili
08-12-2021, 04:34 PM
he is a strict G leaguer
:spin

TheGreatYacht
08-12-2021, 04:34 PM
Kai Jones about as average as I thought he’d be coming out of Texas. Never got the hype over that dude on here. Jalen Johnson deserved it and more.

Chomag
08-12-2021, 04:41 PM
Just went back and saw that poster dunk by Kai Jones. Dear lord!

PhantomDashCam
08-12-2021, 04:42 PM
I definitely think they'll be spooning to get over the losses late at night :lol

But no, I don't necessarily think Forbes will take minutes from Tre, because they don't play the same role at all on the team. Tre is a backup PG and playmaker, also providing driving and scoring secondary abilities, whilst Forbes is a shooting-only SG who does little else on the court. Even in the modern "positionless" era, their roles on a team are different, and they should even be perfectly able to share the court together.

Again, I think Forbes will definitely end up stealing someone's minutes, but it's much more likely to be Lonnie's tbh.

I think this is the sad truth unfortunately.

While I really like Tre J, I may grow to dislike him rather quickly if he becomes part of a platoon tether with Forbes. :lol

duncan2150
08-12-2021, 04:50 PM
Just watched the game vs Hornets. Waw Tre Jones was impressive ! The guy can play, he deserves some minutes backing up Dejounte or DW.

I really like his poise, leadership, he is a good floor manager. I don't see an unbelivable ceilling but he is at least a guy who could be a back up PG for years in the league.

If Forbes takes his minutes, i quit ! lol

Blackhaus
08-12-2021, 04:54 PM
Just watched the game vs Hornets. Waw Tre Jones was impressive ! The guy can play, he deserves some minutes backing up Dejounte or DW.

I really like his poise, leadership, he is a good floor manager. I don't see an unbelivable ceilling but he is at least a guy who could be a back up PG for years in the league.


If Forbes takes his minutes, i quit ! lol

get ready to quit. But I agree, Jones needs to be in the rotation

slick'81
08-12-2021, 04:57 PM
Just watched the game vs Hornets. Waw Tre Jones was impressive ! The guy can play, he deserves some minutes backing up Dejounte or DW.

I really like his poise, leadership, he is a good floor manager. I don't see an unbelivable ceilling but he is at least a guy who could be a back up PG for years in the league.

If Forbes takes his minutes, i quit ! lol

tre is looking good

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 05:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqKH9OZop1E

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 05:02 PM
he's definitely going to get run as the backup PG. its up to him to prove he can be more than just another Cory Joseph

TD 21
08-12-2021, 05:05 PM
:lol at anyone that doesn’t think Forbes will absolutely steal minutes from Jones. He was brought in to be Patty’s replacement. Plain and simple. No need to overthink it.

Forbes, Walker, Vassell, McDermott/Thad, Jock

Anyone that knows Pop knows Tre jones isn’t beating anyone in that bench unit for minutes. He’s a fucking idiot.

It's true, I take back the fake optimism part about Forbes. He'll face an uphill battle, but the other two are in play. Walker IV in particular, not only are they clearly not sold, but I've never gotten the sense Pop is a fan.

Anyway, it probably won't matter much since at least one of the six rotational 1-3 options will likely be out at most times.

playblair
08-12-2021, 05:05 PM
he's definitely going to get run as the backup PG. its up to him to prove he can be more than just another Cory Joseph
cojo was hindered by popovich.......dont try to downplay cojos importance........patty mills was a cancer to the team cojo shouldve never been replaced by patty

SAGirl
08-12-2021, 05:06 PM
This game was So early I couldn't watch it. Kind of concerned and both Vassell and Primo. But it seems like Tre took advantage. Thanks all for the feedback and comments. It looks like Tre was amazing. Will catch highlights.
:hungry:

playblair
08-12-2021, 05:09 PM
This game was So early I couldn't watch it. Kind of concerned and both Vassell and Primo. But it seems like Tre took advantage. Thanks all for the feedback and comments. It looks like Tre was amazing. Will catch highlights.
:hungry:
dont be concerned about vassell & primo bby.........they r both playing out of position on the sl team.......during regular season they will pe a part of the correct system

Dejounte
08-12-2021, 05:09 PM
Tre’s hesitation moves and change of pace with the ball are a thing of beauty.

playblair
08-12-2021, 05:11 PM
Tre’s hesitation moves and change of pace with the ball are a thing of beauty.
anyone who watched g league could see this breakthrough coming............tre is the best pg on the spurs

widowmaker
08-12-2021, 05:12 PM
Just watched the game vs Hornets. Waw Tre Jones was impressive ! The guy can play, he deserves some minutes backing up Dejounte or DW.

I really like his poise, leadership, he is a good floor manager. I don't see an unbelivable ceilling but he is at least a guy who could be a back up PG for years in the league.

If Forbes takes his minutes, i quit ! lol


He will might as well start packing.

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 05:17 PM
cojo was hindered by popovich.......dont try to downplay cojos importance........patty mills was a cancer to the team cojo shouldve never been replaced by patty
CoJo did get that dunk on Ibaka that turned the series around

Dejounte
08-12-2021, 05:21 PM
Is that the best performance by any player so far in the summer league?

RC_Drunkford
08-12-2021, 05:27 PM
Tre Jones won't be in the regular rotation this year

CGD
08-12-2021, 05:41 PM
Jones makes me feel less bad about the idea of trading away White for something good.

Dejounte
08-12-2021, 06:41 PM
Just realized the game winner was against Kai Jones

and the step back ankle breaking mid range J was against him too

good stuff, Tre

SAGirl
08-12-2021, 06:49 PM
I would be confident that Primo was being traded if it were possible. It's not, so no or at least not yet. Vassell on the other hand could be traded.

Primo being shut down because PATFO has seen enough or whatever is unlikely. That's not how it tends to work with rookies or even second-year players.
Both guys injured... A little concerning, specially considering Vassell didn't show up ready to pkay and needed conditioning rest. Primo has right knee soreness. Too reminiscent of :claw who has knee/hamstring issues since college. hmmmm? As you can imagine the jokes have already started that the Spurs are already tanking, just started in SL! :spin!

1425893795892236294

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 06:50 PM
Jones makes me feel less bad about the idea of trading away White for something good.
Jones is a PG and Walker is a SG these guys have no relation to one another in the rotation

tonight...you
08-12-2021, 06:52 PM
Both guys injured... A little concerning, specially considering Vassell didn't show up ready to pkay and needed conditioning rest. Primo has right knee soreness. Too reminiscent of :claw who has knee/hamstring issues since college. hmmmm? As you can imagine the jokes have already started that the Spurs are already tanking, just started in SL! :spin!

1425893795892236294
Are you comparing Primo's sitch to Kawhi's?
From one thing?
Okay then.

SAGirl
08-12-2021, 06:55 PM
Are you comparing Primo's sitch to Kawhi's?
From one thing?
Okay then.
Kind of weird coincidence if you ask me but real life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

John B
08-12-2021, 06:57 PM
I said before that Tre has that deceptive athleticism and burst of speed. His strides are just so fast when he goes ludicrous speed :lol, reminiscent of Tony Parker. And he can stop on a dime to shoot that mid-range. And he does it all in smooth motion, with control.

And you know if someone's open, he's finding that guy, like a Manu. Damn I just compared Tre to Tony and Manu :lol

tonight...you
08-12-2021, 07:00 PM
Kind of weird coincidence if you ask me but real life is stranger than fiction sometimes.
Good point.

Maddog
08-12-2021, 07:01 PM
Kind of weird coincidence if you ask me but real life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

Does he have an Uncle hanging around

tonight...you
08-12-2021, 07:02 PM
I said before that Tre has that deceptive athleticism and burst of speed. His strides are just so fast when he goes ludicrous speed :lol, reminiscent of Tony Parker. And he can stop on a dime to shoot that mid-range. And he does it all in smooth motion, with control.

And you know if someone's open, he's finding that guy, like a Manu. Damn I just compared Tre to Tony and Manu :lol
https://i.imgur.com/b0nx78A.gif

John B
08-12-2021, 07:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/b0nx78A.gif

:lol Man it would be fun to watch them run without the veterans. They might win less, but it would be fun :lol

Chinook
08-12-2021, 07:09 PM
Jones is a PG and Walker is a SG these guys have no relation to one another in the rotation

Um...

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 07:12 PM
Um...
could have articulated it better. i dont think they're competing for minutes.

Chinook
08-12-2021, 07:14 PM
could have articulated it better. i dont think they're competing for minutes.


Read his post again.

tonight...you
08-12-2021, 07:15 PM
:lol Man it would be fun to watch them run without the veterans. They might win less, but it would be fun :lol
I'm down to watch a scrappy team try to fight above their weight while giving themselves a high Draft pick.

That's what made the Clippers desirable to Kawhi (beyond the obvious reason) and the Suns desirable to CP0 (Still didn't work out, but hey!).

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 07:28 PM
Read his post again.
foot in mouth

though i've seen plenty of posts about forbes taking minutes from Tre, etc., so i was a bit trigger happy

Chinook
08-12-2021, 07:47 PM
foot in mouth

though i've seen plenty of posts about forbes taking minutes from Tre, etc., so i was a bit trigger happy

I get it, even though I actually don't think the PG/SG distinction matters so long as both White and Murray are healthy. Pop ran a nine-man rotation last year where he kept one of Murray or DeRozan on the court at all times despite them starting. I don't see why he wouldn't do it with White. That means Jones may be a theoretical backup PG while White is actually be backup PG. That said, I don't think Pop would hesitate to play Jones with either White or Murray (or both even). I totally think all of the guards are competing for the same rotation spots. In the case of injury, though, Jones would be the backup PG for White, and some other guard would start next to Murray.

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 08:23 PM
I get it, even though I actually don't think the PG/SG distinction matters so long as both White and Murray are healthy. Pop ran a nine-man rotation last year where he kept one of Murray or DeRozan on the court at all times despite them starting. I don't see why he wouldn't do it with White. That means Jones may be a theoretical backup PG while White is actually be backup PG. That said, I don't think Pop would hesitate to play Jones with either White or Murray (or both even). I totally think all of the guards are competing for the same rotation spots. In the case of injury, though, Jones would be the backup PG for White, and some other guard would start next to Murray.
yeah, ive said in some posts that pop will likely stagger white/murray quite a bit so white will get plenty of ball handling duties, too, and that's going to be a much bigger limiting factor on Tre's minutes than what Forbes or Walker are doing

CGD
08-12-2021, 08:26 PM
Jones is a PG and Walker is a SG these guys have no relation to one another in the rotation

Hmm I said white, not Walker….

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 08:28 PM
Hmm I said white, not Walker….
indeed. not even chinook could save me from myself

CGD
08-12-2021, 08:41 PM
indeed. not even chinook could save me from myself

Right on, sorry missed the exchange above before

playbonner15
08-12-2021, 08:43 PM
If Pop and co realizes that Tre's handles and passing ability is an asset to the team then this season's not going to be so bad. Hoping to see some Tre to Landale / McDermott plays

rjv
08-12-2021, 09:10 PM
Based on today's results, Tre is an all-star and Sengun is a bust, after all.

Russ
08-12-2021, 09:34 PM
Weiskamp looks pretty good for a 2nd round pick.

He acts like he belongs, he mixes it up effectively inside (a big surprise), he can regularly hit the wide open three (sometimes the hardest to hit), and he defends well (especially for a guy saddled with his profile).

My expectations were pretty low, but I came away impressed after seeing him for three games in person.

Most of all, his attitude was very confident but at the same time very matter of fact. The heat was on him (and Tre Jones) on the heels of a five game losing streak, especially with the featured guys out, but he never wavered.

He looks like he can play a role (a word he will probably never completely escape) with the big club.

Darius Bieber
08-12-2021, 10:20 PM
Weiskamp looks pretty good for a 2nd round pick.

He acts like he belongs, he mixes it up effectively inside (a big surprise), he can regularly hit the wide open three (sometimes the hardest to hit), and he defends well (especially for a guy saddled with his profile).

My expectations were pretty low, but I came away impressed after seeing him for three games in person.

Most of all, his attitude was very confident but at the same time very matter of fact. The heat was on him (and Tre Jones) on the heels of a five game losing streak, especially with the featured guys out, but he never wavered.

He looks like he can play a role (a word he will probably never completely escape) with the big club.

I think Wieskamp is fine with being a role player. He was always overshadowed by Luka Garza in college. Seems like he’s perfectly fine going to his 9-5 job, doing his work, and going home.

Sugus
08-12-2021, 10:23 PM
I think this is the sad truth unfortunately.

While I really like Tre J, I may grow to dislike him rather quickly if he becomes part of a platoon tether with Forbes. :lol

No way should you hate on Tre just for sharing the court with Forbes, IMO. As always, you gotta look at the enabler. At the end of the day, Forbes can't sub himself off the games after the 5-10 minutes we'd all like for him to play (and before y'all say it he obviously isn't playing 0m every game). The same way I personally hold Pop responsible for bringing him back specifically, I'll also hold him responsible for whatever overplaying the midget gets.

In any case, the probability that this is a tanking season and we know it right off the gates makes it miles better already - it's the expectation that kills 'ya and all that. Since Forbes playing is a direct correlation to losing games... I'd rather he not steal minutes from the youngins, but at least he's only doing that, and not stealing minutes while also shafting us in the standings like years prior. I'm coming into next season hoping for 26 wins, anything above that is a plus tbh.

Mnky
08-12-2021, 10:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqKH9OZop1E

I remember when he got drafted and quite a few posters threw a fit on drafting another pg. I could not believe he fell to us. He was easily one of my best players in the country that year and one of the best "true" PGs. I watched him play alot and would hate the reality of not having a shot of him since he would definitely go second half of the 1st.

I was exstatic we got him. His leadership and decision making just always stood out to me as elite.

Really hope he gets the opportunity to showcase his ability with the main team.

BacktoBasics
08-12-2021, 10:37 PM
Does he have an Uncle hanging around

Not gonna lie that made me lol in real life.

K...
08-12-2021, 10:38 PM
the problems with forbes is that tosb LMA was not dominant enough to get him great looks and Derozan and Murray are black wholes. Forbes with Tre Jones would be ok, defense would suck, but who plays defense these days

ace3g
08-12-2021, 11:14 PM
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spurraider21
08-12-2021, 11:20 PM
I remember when he got drafted and quite a few posters threw a fit on drafting another pg. I could not believe he fell to us. He was easily one of my best players in the country that year and one of the best "true" PGs. I watched him play alot and would hate the reality of not having a shot of him since he would definitely go second half of the 1st.

I was exstatic we got him. His leadership and decision making just always stood out to me as elite.

Really hope he gets the opportunity to showcase his ability with the main team.
i usually have no expectation of 2nd rounders contributing, so i wasnt happy or upset with the pick at the time. but dominating summer league in year 2 is definitely good to see.

for reference, our second rounders since 2010 have been: wieskamp, tre jones, quinddary weatherspoon, chimezie metu, jaron blossomgame, cady lalanne, deshaun thomas, marcus denmon, adam hanga, and ryan richards.

last time we drafted an actual rotation player in the 2nd round was blair/de colo back in 2009

Tre looks like he's set to be the next one

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08-12-2021, 11:21 PM
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That was impressive over Kai Jones :lol:lol

What is Tre’s vertical? I mean his body’s pretty much side by side with Kai. DraftNet has his athleticism at 6. This kid can flatout outrun anybody. I think it hurt his stock not being able to attend the Combine, because he would’ve shown people. But good for us :lol. I think he would’ve been taken on the 2nd half of the 1st round, tbh.

DPG21920
08-12-2021, 11:36 PM
Why was Forbes brought back again?

Robz4000
08-12-2021, 11:39 PM
Why was Forbes brought back again?


:lobt: :pop::whine:drunk

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-12-2021, 11:41 PM
You think Pop won't be spooning with Brynn on road trips and feeding each other grapes to get over the losses? Come on.

Most here were excited about the youth/tank movement, then he brings this scab back.

Fvck!

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 11:53 PM
Why was Forbes brought back again?

...






Fvck!

raybies
08-13-2021, 12:37 AM
Why was Forbes brought back again?
probably because he was literally out the league and pop wanted to help him again...

Kurgan
08-13-2021, 01:13 AM
probably because he was literally out the league and pop wanted to help him again...

If he was almost out of the league, that's on Forbes for opting out of the $2.5 million he would have gotten from the Bucks this year. If Spurs gave him a better contract than that, I'm gonna be pissed. Stop acting like a charity just because a player has "good character"

Mr. Body
08-13-2021, 01:18 AM
Weiskamp looks pretty good for a 2nd round pick.

He acts like he belongs, he mixes it up effectively inside (a big surprise), he can regularly hit the wide open three (sometimes the hardest to hit), and he defends well (especially for a guy saddled with his profile).

My expectations were pretty low, but I came away impressed after seeing him for three games in person.

Most of all, his attitude was very confident but at the same time very matter of fact. The heat was on him (and Tre Jones) on the heels of a five game losing streak, especially with the featured guys out, but he never wavered.

He looks like he can play a role (a word he will probably never completely escape) with the big club.

His frame and athleticism show promise beyond a simple catch-and-shoot guy, plus he's shown some grit in rebounding, as you say. I like the glimpses he's shown so far.

siraulo23
08-13-2021, 02:09 AM
fun to watch the Tre Jones show

Maddog
08-13-2021, 05:57 AM
His frame and athleticism show promise beyond a simple catch-and-shoot guy, plus he's shown some grit in rebounding, as you say. I like the glimpses he's shown so far.

He was a good rebounder in College. The old adage is that rebounding always transfers

exstatic
08-13-2021, 06:47 AM
That was impressive over Kai Jones :lol:lol

What is Tre’s vertical? I mean his body’s pretty much side by side with Kai. DraftNet has his athleticism at 6. This kid can flatout outrun anybody. I think it hurt his stock not being able to attend the Combine, because he would’ve shown people. But good for us :lol. I think he would’ve been taken on the 2nd half of the 1st round, tbh.

I don’t know what his vert is, but he had two plays, one in the Gubble, and one with the Spurs, where he drove the lane, and dunked in heavy traffic. Plays were nearly identical.

John B
08-13-2021, 07:25 AM
I don’t know what his vert is, but he had two plays, one in the Gubble, and one with the Spurs, where he drove the lane, and dunked in heavy traffic. Plays were nearly identical.

That has got to be over 40”. His hips are right beside Kai’s.

I mean he has done this at the Gubble. While people freak over Halliburton, we have Tre who COULD equally be talented, at 41st. I don’t know if it’s a stretch, but he can pretty much positioned himself anywhere in the court for a shot. His speed is reminiscent of Tony’s. He was beating his defender every time to the hole. He has a sick hesitation move that almost broke his defenders ankle. He’s an excellent defender, and has shown he can score.

Okay, let’s see some more Tre. Because if he can consistently play like this, he deserves minutes. He just leaped over Lonnie, a 4th year player who looks lost out there. Tre IS the backup PG, and could even be more if they decided to package Murray. Certainly he’s a better facilitator than Murray. But White has been and yet remains 2nd fiddle to DJ as a primary ball handler.

I don’t know. Let’s see some more Tre.

Chinook
08-13-2021, 08:12 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.

Seventyniner
08-13-2021, 08:43 AM
Yeah, big games in the Summer League are a necessary but insufficient condition for being a good NBA player.

Dex
08-13-2021, 08:48 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.

This game aside, Tre probably doesn't really have an NBA role if he doesn't develop a three-point shot. He's not gonna be able to feast at the rim against real NBA defenses.

PrimeMinister
08-13-2021, 08:58 AM
Jones has a nice combination of physicality and craftiness in the paint, I can see him being a solid finisher in the nba.

Mnky
08-13-2021, 09:00 AM
i usually have no expectation of 2nd rounders contributing, so i wasnt happy or upset with the pick at the time. but dominating summer league in year 2 is definitely good to see.

for reference, our second rounders since 2010 have been: wieskamp, tre jones, quinddary weatherspoon, chimezie metu, jaron blossomgame, cady lalanne, deshaun thomas, marcus denmon, adam hanga, and ryan richards.

last time we drafted an actual rotation player in the 2nd round was blair/de colo back in 2009

Tre looks like he's set to be the next one

I think he has a good chance at getting that spot and could possibly demand more later in his career. He was definitely a 1st round pick. Watching him fall, I knew he was going to go to some team I hated late first and they were going to get a steal.

Really looking forward to getting the chance to see him play up more this year. He played well in spot minutes last year with the spurs.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 09:09 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.
it's definitely a skill check, but Jones appears to have passed that test. of course, its still on him to allow his skill to translate into an NBA role, but if CoJo has stuck around the league as a backup, no reason Tre can't. but he's going to have to be a more willing shooter if he wants to be more than that

rankingtear
08-13-2021, 09:14 AM
2nd year ballhandlers in the summer league looks like superstars. He still needs a good pullup j to even be in the rotation.

Chinook
08-13-2021, 09:25 AM
it's definitely a skill check, but Jones appears to have passed that test. of course, its still on him to allow his skill to translate into an NBA role, but if CoJo has stuck around the league as a backup, no reason Tre can't. but he's going to have to be a more willing shooter if he wants to be more than that

Oh, I think Jones is doing well. My point is that him doing well doesn't make him surpass guys like Walker or Forbes, and it shouldn't make anyone feel better about trading White. Those guys all dominated the summer league in games too. Bryn in particular would be a star in a league where the guys were just a bit smaller. He's actually a relatively large human being (in height but also in terms of how muscular he is) outside of an NBA court, and he'd look a lot better if he were closer to two-guard size in a league rather than shorter than a lot of PGs. Jones should be able to stick in the league just as his brother has. But he might well not be in the rotation this season, even if Pop doesn't show favoritism.

Ocotillo
08-13-2021, 10:02 AM
A lot of what has been said about Tre is being confirmed in Summer League, or as some are saying, he is checking the right boxes. Despite a strong game yesterday, I can see he still needs to work on his outside shooting. It appears he is working on it and progress is being made.

The most impressive thing about his performance was his all around output, scoring, defense, assists, driving with the change of speed. He didn't just excel in one aspect of the game, he played well in many facets of the game.

Things get harder in the NBA as we all know but I feel good about the guy.

I liked what I saw from Cup of Joe yesterday as well. I thought he was going to be a catch and shoot guy and that was pretty much it but he mixes it up under the basket, is fearless shooting and his defense is a bit better than I thought it would be. Fingers crossed.

Primo looks to be more of a project than I was hoping but he can shoot and has room (time) to grow.

Devin is who I have been disappointed with thus far. I am speaking about his conditioning and inability to hit threes playing summer league talent.

Primo is more a project than I was hoping for but he can shoot and is young.

PrimeMinister
08-13-2021, 10:21 AM
Broke mans wagner might be a thing after all

emanueldavidginobili
08-13-2021, 10:28 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.
It’s not the scoring for me, it’s the intangibles he brings. A lot of kids can score in the summer league but this kid is poised as hell and knows how to set up his teammates really well and has a great feel for the game. If only Lonnie had his feel for the game lol.

emanueldavidginobili
08-13-2021, 10:28 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.
It’s not the scoring for me, it’s the intangibles he brings. A lot of kids can score in the summer league but this kid is poised as hell and knows how to set up his teammates really well and has a great feel for the game. If only Lonnie had his feel for the game lol.

duncan2150
08-13-2021, 10:28 AM
Oh, I think Jones is doing well. My point is that him doing well doesn't make him surpass guys like Walker or Forbes, and it shouldn't make anyone feel better about trading White. Those guys all dominated the summer league in games too. Bryn in particular would be a star in a league where the guys were just a bit smaller. He's actually a relatively large human being (in height but also in terms of how muscular he is) outside of an NBA court, and he'd look a lot better if he were closer to two-guard size in a league rather than shorter than a lot of PGs. Jones should be able to stick in the league just as his brother has. But he might well not be in the rotation this season, even if Pop doesn't show favoritism.

don't disagree overall but you forgot one thing : he is the only true PG in this team and we need a player like him. If he is not good then move on and play Forbes but with his play at the SL ( he was also good at Duke) he deserves a little role imo.

John B
08-13-2021, 10:42 AM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.

The best comparison is White with his passing, command of game, when to score. I think what exciting is Tre seems to be working on his shots, and it shows. Again, show us some more Tre.

mo7888
08-13-2021, 10:55 AM
A lot of what has been said about Tre is being confirmed in Summer League, or as some are saying, he is checking the right boxes. Despite a strong game yesterday, I can see he still needs to work on his outside shooting. It appears he is working on it and progress is being made.

The most impressive thing about his performance was his all around output, scoring, defense, assists, driving with the change of speed. He didn't just excel in one aspect of the game, he played well in many facets of the game.

Things get harder in the NBA as we all know but I feel good about the guy.

I liked what I saw from Cup of Joe yesterday as well. I thought he was going to be a catch and shoot guy and that was pretty much it but he mixes it up under the basket, is fearless shooting and his defense is a bit better than I thought it would be. Fingers crossed.

Primo looks to be more of a project than I was hoping but he can shoot and has room (time) to grow.

Devin is who I have been disappointed with thus far. I am speaking about his conditioning and inability to hit threes playing summer league talent.

Primo is more a project than I was hoping for but he can shoot and is young.

Just like we can read to much into Tre's potential based off a summer league performance we can also read to much into the downside based on Devin's summer league performance. Yes, he looked bad against G league talent but he was also playing a role that he won't play this year on the big club. He's not going to be asked to be a go-to scorer like he was asked to be this summer. He'll play the 3-D role he played last year.... they pushed him this summer and he showed he wasn't ready for that (and may never be) but he'll look much different when they put him back into his preferred role.

Martin

John B
08-13-2021, 11:09 AM
Just like we can read to much into Tre's potential based off a summer league performance we can also read to much into the downside based on Devin's summer league performance. Yes, he looked bad against G league talent but he was also playing a role that he won't play this year on the big club. He's not going to be asked to be a go-to scorer like he was asked to be this summer. He'll play the 3-D role he played last year.... they pushed him this summer and he showed he wasn't ready for that (and may never be) but he'll look much different when they put him back into his preferred role.

Martin

I think with the absence of the Vets, Vassell needs to step up with the rest of the young guys. And he’s one of the few who can really create for himself. I don’t want him to be shy or defer shots. He needs to have the confidence, I hate to say it, the Mamba mentality to finish games. I think he is very capable. Just keep sending him out there.

mo7888
08-13-2021, 11:30 AM
I think with the absence of the Vets, Vassell needs to step up with the rest of the young guys. And he’s one of the few who can really create for himself. I don’t want him to be shy or defer shots. He needs to have the confidence, I hate to say it, the Mamba mentality to finish games. I think he is very capable. Just keep sending him out there.

I think adding a 'mamba mentality' to his game is something to experiment with next summer. This year he needs to play lockdown defense and catch and shoot 3's, with the occasional dribble drive closeouts after he starts consistently nailing 3's... doing to much will stunt him at this juncture.

SAGirl
08-13-2021, 03:04 PM
So just to be clear, this also happened in the summer league:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKyvVLMVQI&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW5QACYR70&ab_channel=GD%27sLatestHighlig hts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_JfnOqPh4&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

Obviously White has turned out to be a consistently good player when he can stay healthy. Forbes is a relatively consistent scorer and Walker has talent. But the drop-off from being the featured guy in a summer-league game to a bit player in the NBA is massive. There's no point in trying to project NBA role from it. It's basically just a skill check.
Looking at Lonnie makes me melancholic, kind of. He's -or was- a better looking prospect than Primo. Size, smooth jumper and anthleticism that really popped. Outside of Primos shot and his scrappiness, he doesn't really pop athletically. I get the premature impression that his bbiq is higher than Walker but no way to really tell until he's playing with the team in the RS.

Tre Jones reminds me of is brother Tyus. He was a Summer League MVP right?

Mugen
08-13-2021, 03:13 PM
Lonnie is going to be really solid to great once he has a better coach tbh. Not worried about him at all when he gets to be on a real team.

Mr. Body
08-13-2021, 03:48 PM
Lonnie is going to be really solid to great once he has a better coach tbh. Not worried about him at all when he gets to be on a real team.

This is your whole schtick, isn't it?

LeBowen
08-13-2021, 04:09 PM
Lonnie is going to be really solid to great once he has a better coach tbh. Not worried about him at all when he gets to be on a real team.

Scrubs with 10% of Lonnie's talent have the green light, but he had to waste years sitting in the corner while Patty and Marco were desperately trying to hide behind screens and chuck every ball they get.

Idk how can anyone think it's a coincidence he played his best games last season when Demar and/or Patty were out.
Not to mention how Pop's pet never got taken out of the game for being turnstiles on defense, but every mistake Lonnie made reduced his minutes on the floor.

And now fucking Bryn is back to put the last nail in the coffin.

Mugen
08-13-2021, 04:17 PM
This is your whole schtick, isn't it?

Nah, no schtick when it comes to Lonnie. I have zero doubt a change of scenery/coach will do wonders for him after he's no longer a Spur. I thought there was a slight chance that he would get a fair shake this upcoming year with Derozan gone but as soon as that POS Bryn was brought back, that hope went flying out the window :lol

Mr. Body
08-13-2021, 04:29 PM
Nah, no schtick when it comes to Lonnie. I have zero doubt a change of scenery/coach will do wonders for him after he's no longer a Spur. I thought there was a slight chance that he would get a fair shake this upcoming year with Derozan gone but as soon as that POS Bryn was brought back, that hope went flying out the window :lol

No, I mean endlessly bitching about the coach. It's all you do.

GAustex
08-13-2021, 04:42 PM
Pop really has not run the organization very well for the past last 1/2 a decade

Sugus
08-13-2021, 05:20 PM
Scrubs with 10% of Lonnie's talent have the green light, but he had to waste years sitting in the corner while Patty and Marco were desperately trying to hide behind screens and chuck every ball they get.

Idk how can anyone think it's a coincidence he played his best games last season when Demar and/or Patty were out.
Not to mention how Pop's pet never got taken out of the game for being turnstiles on defense, but every mistake Lonnie made reduced his minutes on the floor.

And now fucking Bryn is back to put the last nail in the coffin.

I'm still holding out a sliver of hope for Lonnie this season, but it's increasingly looking like his developmental fuckups could have lasting damage, and derail his career. No doubt he had (and has) a lot of work to do on his mental game, that might've always been an "Achilles' heel" to his path to NBA stardom, but it's hard to ignore his mishandling by coaching regarding his role, minutes, spot on the team, and up-bringing.

Such a shame. Can only hope Primo doesn't go down the same route.

John B
08-13-2021, 05:43 PM
I'm still holding out a sliver of hope for Lonnie this season, but it's increasingly looking like his developmental fuckups could have lasting damage, and derail his career. No doubt he had (and has) a lot of work to do on his mental game, that might've always been an "Achilles' heel" to his path to NBA stardom, but it's hard to ignore his mishandling by coaching regarding his role, minutes, spot on the team, and up-bringing.

Such a shame. Can only hope Primo doesn't go down the same route.

I hope not. The last 3 years have just been bad chemistry with the personnel. The vets are gone, and it's a clean slate.

No more star egos to massage, except maybe the question on who, Murray or White, should be the primary ballhandler.

I think White is a better PG, and should be the main facilitator, and Murray playing combo (if Murray is not dealt in a package, which could finally clear that issue)

Mugen
08-13-2021, 06:31 PM
No, I mean endlessly bitching about the coach. It's all you do.

Not true. I also think the President of Basketball Ops is a major problem. :lol

tonight...you
08-13-2021, 06:35 PM
Not true. I also think the President of Basketball Ops is a major problem. :lol
Lol. You so bad.

BackHome
08-13-2021, 07:37 PM
Lonnie is going to be really solid to great once he has a better coach tbh. Not worried about him at all when he gets to be on a real team.

Give me some of that Crack..........

tmtcsc
08-13-2021, 10:09 PM
Lonnie is going to be really solid to great once he has a better coach tbh. Not worried about him at all when he gets to be on a real team.

Stop it. Walker will suck where ever he is. And if he doesn't suck, then he'll just be a soft, inconsistent tease. He's had 3 years to show us who he is & this is it. He doesn't compete and only plays on top of his game about 25% of the time. It's ridiculous. Just like Luka Sumanabitch. Soft-Ass Euro who is most likely homesick.

Mugen
08-13-2021, 10:23 PM
#FreeLonnie

Chinook
08-13-2021, 10:32 PM
Lonnie will have a long NBA career. Likely it'll be as a journeyman who gets contracts for years based off his potential. Dunno if that's a failure or not. But he'll definitely do better with a different coach, even if he won't reach his potential unless he finds a coach that can push him in the right way.

ismael-robert
08-13-2021, 10:47 PM
Haven't yall been keeping up? The trend is to breakout in year six so gotta give him 2 more years to avoid regrets

exstatic
08-14-2021, 07:12 AM
Lonnie will have a long NBA career. Likely it'll be as a journeyman who gets contracts for years based off his potential. Dunno if that's a failure or not. But he'll definitely do better with a different coach, even if he won't reach his potential unless he finds a coach that can push him in the right way.

Ben McLemore, another high flyer with a nice jumper who just never put it all together, and is now bouncing around the league on small contracts. Journeyman.

Chinook
08-14-2021, 07:17 AM
Ben McLemore, another high flyer with a nice jumper who just never put it all together, and is now bouncing around the league on small contracts. Journeyman.

Yeah. He's been around for nine seasons now and has earned about $30 Million over his career. Add in inflation and the Spurs shine, and Lonnie could earn twice that while basically being a similar player. If he improves at all, he'll get three times that much.

bluebellmaniac
08-14-2021, 07:34 AM
Yeah. He's been around for nine seasons now and has earned about $30 Million over his career. Add in inflation and the Spurs shine, and Lonnie could earn twice that while basically being a similar player. If he improves at all, he'll get three times that much.

I'd love to "fail" while making $90M.

BackHome
08-14-2021, 02:05 PM
It’s make or break year for Walker he better be working hard and better be doing serious film room on how to properly play defense. He controls his destiny the training wheels are going to be taken off so he better be ready to produce on offense and on defense.

offset formation
08-14-2021, 02:48 PM
This is your whole schtick, isn't it?

a softer, kindle, gentler RD2 or TGY if you will.

R. DeMurre
08-14-2021, 06:00 PM
Jalen Johnson's playing like his life depends on it in this Summer League: today he finished with 25 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, & 1 block, and was +11 for the game, the best of any player on either team. If he and De'Andre Hunter steadily develop, the Hawks can use John Collins as a trade piece to shore up whatever weaknesses they see while also clearing salary space. They're in a good spot now. Smart of them to sign him, even if he's not in their long term plans.

https://www.nba.com/game/atl-vs-mia-1522100046/box-score#box-score

TheGreatYacht
08-14-2021, 06:25 PM
Jalen Johnson was the clear cut guy to pick at 12th and they picked some combo scrub that wasn't even the 4th option at ALABAMA :lmao

playblair
08-14-2021, 06:38 PM
Jalen Johnson was the clear cut guy to pick at 12th and they picked some combo scrub that wasn't even the 4th option at ALABAMA :lmao
spoken like someone who never watched a minute of college basketball.........jalen will not be good until his 2nd or 3rd nba contract when hes on his 4th team........primo was the best player & wouldve been a top 5 pick next draft

BackHome
08-14-2021, 07:14 PM
I don't think you look at Mocks but no way in Hell is Primo a top 5 pick in this next draft - At best he would be around 12 now if he was super athletic and had everything else then yeah maybe but he is not super athletic hence he would never be a top 10 especially in this next draft

slick'81
08-14-2021, 08:47 PM
I don't think you look at Mocks but no way in Hell is Primo a top 5 pick in this next draft - At best he would be around 12 now if he was super athletic and had everything else then yeah maybe but he is not super athletic hence he would never be a top 10 especially in this next draft


I agree. Of course its easy to say he woulde top 5 next draft when theres no way to prove that.

bluebellmaniac
08-14-2021, 09:36 PM
I agree. Of course its easy to say he woulde top 5 next draft when theres no way to prove that.

This coming year will tell.

acoelho1
08-14-2021, 09:56 PM
Although few and far between, Walker has had games where he looks absolutely electric, like a superstar. That Houston game comes to mind. Will he ever put it together, I don't know but this year is a make or break for him in terms of his ceiling.

SAGirl
08-14-2021, 10:18 PM
Duarte has been consistently good. I thought he’d be good, but was wary of taking a prospect that’s 24 years old in the lottery where the Spurs should be fishing for upside. I am kind of regretting not being higher on him, but then I’d just be disappointed the Spurs didn’t take him.

ismael-robert
08-15-2021, 01:40 AM
Oh YOU were wary, you're regretting? Basketball takes in a Basketball forum don't annoy me it's when writing like we or our thoughts even matter n over valuing our opinions like they mean anything

tim_duncan_fan
08-15-2021, 01:48 AM
Oh YOU were wary, you're regretting? Basketball takes in a Basketball forum don't annoy me it's when writing like we or our thoughts even matter n over valuing our opinions like they mean anything
Are you missing the irony in this post of yours?

ismael-robert
08-15-2021, 02:09 AM
Nah could care less

Kurik
08-15-2021, 03:01 AM
Nah could care less

Obviously you do. Go follow your own advice and join a dating site.

ace3g
08-15-2021, 09:30 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8zI8UjX0AIS34D?format=jpg&name=large

Manu&Duncan fan
08-15-2021, 10:00 AM
Jalen Johnson was the clear cut guy to pick at 12th and they picked some combo scrub that wasn't even the 4th option at ALABAMA :lmao

I don't regret Spurs didn't draft Jalen Johnson. We have to keep our tradition of drafting known nice and humble yet hard-working guys. Stay away from guys who has too much ego.

Rito3d30
08-15-2021, 10:37 AM
Will primo play?

itzsoweezee
08-15-2021, 10:41 AM
spoken like someone who never watched a minute of college basketball.........jalen will not be good until his 2nd or 3rd nba contract when hes on his 4th team........primo was the best player & wouldve been a top 5 pick next draft

Lol

John B
08-15-2021, 11:33 AM
Jalen Johnson's playing like his life depends on it in this Summer League: today he finished with 25 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, & 1 block, and was +11 for the game, the best of any player on either team. If he and De'Andre Hunter steadily develop, the Hawks can use John Collins as a trade piece to shore up whatever weaknesses they see while also clearing salary space. They're in a good spot now. Smart of them to sign him, even if he's not in their long term plans.

https://www.nba.com/game/atl-vs-mia-1522100046/box-score#box-score

I like Primo at 12th. I like Primo at 12th :bang. We did good… but then again, couldn’t Spurs just gotten this guy? :lol


https://youtu.be/5MBTuMaDeW0

Degoat
08-15-2021, 11:37 AM
Not to hate but Franz Wagner hasn’t look very good for all the people that were high on him lol hasn’t necessarily played bad but he’s been pretty invisible when I’ve watched him play

cd98
08-15-2021, 11:44 AM
If summer league performance = success in NBA, then Tre Jones is setting up to have a great year.

Mr. Body
08-15-2021, 12:04 PM
I like Primo at 12th. I like Primo at 12th :bang. We did good… but then again, couldn’t Spurs just gotten this guy? :lol


https://youtu.be/5MBTuMaDeW0

If Jalen Johnson does well at Atlanta, good for him. It doesn't mean he'd do well at San Antonio.

His problem hasn't been talent, anyway, it's been coaching. He couldn't stand being coached at Duke and got out of there. Maybe in a player's league he does better, but let's not jack off over a summer league.

Mr. Body
08-15-2021, 12:04 PM
Although few and far between, Walker has had games where he looks absolutely electric, like a superstar. That Houston game comes to mind. Will he ever put it together, I don't know but this year is a make or break for him in terms of his ceiling.

That Houston game is close to two years ago, isn't it?

ace3g
08-15-2021, 01:01 PM
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Spurs hopeful Primo can return to court today after missing much of last week with a bruised knee.

Dverde
08-15-2021, 02:28 PM
I can’t wait to see Primo get a DNP - Hormones

tonight...you
08-15-2021, 02:30 PM
I can’t wait to see Primo get a DNP - Hormones
:lmao

ace3g
08-15-2021, 04:52 PM
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Devin Vassell is out again today with right hamstring tightness, per Spurs.

RC_Drunkford
08-15-2021, 06:12 PM
Tre Jones had a more impressive run in summer league than Devin Vassell tbh

Kurik
08-15-2021, 06:17 PM
Tre Jones had a more impressive run in summer league than Devin Vassell tbh

Pretty sure everyone already thinks that.