Spurs 2021 SLC & Vegas Summer League Thread

[spurraider21]

Slept through the game. How'd the guys look?
Primo showed his potential. I dont think he's NBA ready with respect to his ball handling yet, but he's definitely got game and confidence. He's going to have to be a lot more crafty to overcome his lack of burst.

Vassell looks just like last year.

Wieskamp is invisible. Doesn't seem remotely active enough off the ball for a shooting specialist. He could learn a thing or two by watching some Belinelli tape

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Hopefully Trae is ready for Vegas.

Primo is hella smooth, kinda reminds me of Shai Gilgious Alexander.

[itzsoweezee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8T5HYTOeWI

Looking good. I love the confidence

[BillMc]

Primo showed his potential. I dont think he's NBA ready with respect to his ball handling yet, but he's definitely got game and confidence. Vassell looks just like last year. Wieskamp is invisible. Doesn't seem remotely active enough off the ball for a shooting specialist. He could learn a thing or two by watching some Belinelli tape

Thanks Bro.

Kinda worried about Wieskamp. If he can't get open, he's not gonna stick in the NBA.

Was hoping Vassell would show deep shooting. But Primo is something to be really happy about.

[Trill Clinton]

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[spurraider21]

Thanks Bro.

Kinda worried about Wieskamp. If he can't get open, he's not gonna stick in the NBA.

Was hoping Vassell would show deep shooting. But Primo is something to be really happy about.
To be fair to Wieskamp, his game would benefit playing along better players who can actually collapse the defense and get him open. But he has to do a lot better of a job of getting himself open too.

[Degoat]

Just two summer league games but I would love to hear the draft experts that criticized the spurs for taking Primo at 12. Bill simmons and Ryan Russello drilled the spurs on their podcast and totally clowned them for the pick

[BillMc]

Just two summer league games but I would love to hear the draft experts that criticized the spurs for taking Primo at 12. Bill simmons and Ryan Russello drilled the spurs on their podcast and totally clowned them for the pick

Buy the time he can drink a beer. Primo could be really good.

Pop may even play him by then.

[slick'81]

Just two summer league games but I would love to hear the draft experts that criticized the spurs for taking Primo at 12. Bill simmons and Ryan Russello drilled the spurs on their podcast and totally clowned them for the pick

Many spurs pick have been that way. Once the dust settles 9/10 spurs find something useful. Even in my disdain of the pick tony parker 2.0 rung in my head. A player nobody saw coming but eventually shines bright

[CGD]

It’s just one game, but Im impressed how he controlled the tempo of the game. He might not be the most explosive, but it felt like he was forcing everyone to play at his speed.

[Dejounte]

Primo has modern NBA moves. He fine tunes his moves a little bit more, and we have ourselves a top flight scorer.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/thetyjager/status/1423805329553436674?s=21

These are DDR-like handles.

[John B]

Primo is a confident scorer, no one that we have, maybe Vassell. But Primo is more natural at getting in his spot. He needs the NBA body, but he’s just gonna get better as I’ve heard and mentioned before. He is a student of the game and quite a gym rat.

[Robz4000]

Wasn't able to watch the game. Cliffnotes?

[Dejounte]

It’s a rookie trying to learn the pace of the game as a ball handler. I wouldn’t he surprised if he’s taking his time with most of his touches to gauge how quick or how slow he should go. It’s possible there’s more to his speed but he doesn’t want to drive to the rim with reckless abandon like how most rookies do.

[Dejounte]

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[slick'81]

Kid really needs to get some run with the big team early

[emanueldavidginobili]

It’s just one game, but Im impressed how he controlled the tempo of the game. He might not be the most explosive, but it felt like he was forcing everyone to play at his speed.
Exactly, the pace he plays with you cannot teach. The absolute youngest player in the league but has an incredible feel for the game at this age, you can see how he passes and then rotates to the open spot perfectly.

Put this kid with the big dogs this season and he’s going to flourish, he could have had at least 3 more assist if Skal wasn’t absolutely terrible. Did RC and Pop do it again? Who knows but this pick is a helluva investment, his stock has massive potential, even physically he looks big boned I think he’s going to be a beast in a couple of years he’s for sure going to grow. Hell 5 years from now and he’ll still be younger than DJ is now.

[Sugus]

Exactly, the pace he plays with you cannot teach. The absolute youngest player in the league but has an incredible feel for the game at this age, you can see how he passes and then rotates to the open spot perfectly.

Put this kid with the big dogs this season and he’s going to flourish, he could have had at least 3 more assist if Skal wasn’t absolutely terrible. Did RC and Pop do it again? Who knows but this pick is a helluva investment, his stock has massive potential, even physically he looks big boned I think he’s going to be a beast in a couple of years he’s for sure going to grow. Hell 5 years from now and he’ll still be younger than DJ is now.

Insane. He looks more natural pulling up for 3 than DJ does now. Shit you can't teach.

[BackHome]

https://twitter.com/thetyjager/status/1423805329553436674?s=21

These are DDR-like handles.

Man I love after he made it he was getting back on D and communicating with other players he has all the traits of a good leader

[spurraider21]

Wasn't able to watch the game. Cliffnotes?


Primo showed his potential. I dont think he's NBA ready with respect to his ball handling yet, but he's definitely got game and confidence. He's going to have to be a lot more crafty to overcome his lack of burst.

Vassell looks just like last year.

Wieskamp is invisible. Doesn't seem remotely active enough off the ball for a shooting specialist. He could learn a thing or two by watching some Belinelli tape

[Robz4000]

:tu

[Dejounte]

Primo shaking hands with the refs at the end of the game was a nice touch. Classy kid.

[PhantomDashCam]

The kid’s like the bball equivalent of Benjamin Button. Nuanced and intelligent beyond his years.

My only criticisms so far:
- Ball security
- Lackadaisical passing

Everything else has equaled or surpassed my expectations thus far.

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[Sugus]

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[slick'81]

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hell be off and running in no time

[BillMc]

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The man knows his old time Christmas specials. :drunk


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[Sugus]

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only caught the highlights but Primo is awesome and super entertaining and i'm excited that is all

[BillMc]

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Already better defender than Forbes and Walker, two guys he'll be competing with for time.

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only caught the highlights but Primo is awesome and super entertaining and i'm excited that is all

shitting on the doubters

[Dejounte]

We haven’t even seen Primo as a spot up shooter yet… one of his known strengths. His scoring is going to go through the roof once he can take plays off looking for his hot spots and letting another guard feed him.

[emanueldavidginobili]

We haven’t even seen Primo as a spot up shooter yet… one of his known strengths. His scoring is going to go through the roof once he can take plays off looking for his hot spots and letting another guard feed him.
Yup exactly why he needs to play with the main squad so they can have DJ and Derrick slashing to the hoop and kicking it to him and knocking down open shots. I don’t want him at all in the G-League.

[BackHome]

I don’t want to do to him what his last team did just go to corner and shoot the three ball - I am cool with him playing in G League and letting him be the leader and expand on his playmaking/PG duties even if he is not our PG of the future the experience in handling the ball will be a huge help to him in the following seasons - We can still call him up to get playing time as needed to give him some perspective of the NBA

[Dejounte]

I don’t want to do to him what his last team did just go to corner and shoot the three ball - I am cool with him playing in G League and letting him be the leader and expand on his playmaking/PG duties even if he is not our PG of the future the experience in handling the ball will be a huge help to him in the following seasons - We can still call him up to get playing time as needed to give him some perspective of the NBA

i wasnt saying to eliminate all playmaking duties, just that he’s so versatile that giving him opportunities to do other things can make him a well rounded player, especially if he’s allowed to work off-ball and get on fire from spot up opportunities.

[ducks]

Vassell looks thicker

Are you gay ?

[Seventyniner]

Primo has modern NBA moves. He fine tunes his moves a little bit more, and we have ourselves a top flight scorer.

imo Primo's age shows in this regard. Someone like Duarte was already Primo's age when Curry started taking over, and his style was likely largely set by then. Primo himself, by contrast, was only 12 and just starting to develop his moves at that time.

[tim_duncan_fan]

We haven’t even seen Primo as a spot up shooter yet… one of his known strengths. His scoring is going to go through the roof once he can take plays off looking for his hot spots and letting another guard feed him.


I don’t want to do to him what his last team did just go to corner and shoot the three ball - I am cool with him playing in G League and letting him be the leader and expand on his playmaking/PG duties even if he is not our PG of the future the experience in handling the ball will be a huge help to him in the following seasons - We can still call him up to get playing time as needed to give him some perspective of the NBA


i wasnt saying to eliminate all playmaking duties, just that he’s so versatile that giving him opportunities to do other things can make him a well rounded player, especially if he’s allowed to work off-ball and get on fire from spot up opportunities.

Spurstalk: I wanted Moses Moody.. Who asked for this fucking baby?

Also Spurstalk: He's MY kid and I think we should raise him this way!

:bobo

[tim_duncan_fan]

Are you gay ?
A year and a half from now, Vassell, Primo, and Keldon on the court at the same time is going to be sexy as fuck.

Slashing and splashing, baby.

[SAGirl]

Thanks Bro.

Kinda worried about Wieskamp. If he can't get open, he's not gonna stick in the NBA.

Was hoping Vassell would show deep shooting. But Primo is something to be really happy about.

Wieskamp is quick enough to get free if he wanted. I’d say the lack of bigs setting screens off the ball and Vassell and Primo not really being PG weren’t going to get shots for an off ball player like that. The rest of the team is really bad and guys can barely dribble without turning it over or make plays for others. The game was more like a pick up game. Vassell also dominated the ball on stretches and went iso without looking to create for teammates.

The coaches never called plays to get the guy free either. I noticed for example that the Memphis coach called plays to get shots for McDermott a 3 pt shooter they have, in fact sometimes guys were called for moving screens, but they were trying to run sets. The Spurs didn’t seem interested in that kind of action. A big part of that has to be coaching.

Having said that, he may well suck, it’s just difficult to judge in this setting.

[BillMc]

Wieskamp is quick enough to get free if he wanted. I’d say the lack of bigs setting screens off the ball and Vassell and Primo not really being PG weren’t going to get shots for an off ball player like that. The rest of the team is really bad and guys can barely dribble without turning it over or make plays for others. The game was more like a pick up game. Vassell also dominated the ball on stretches and went iso without looking to create for teammates.

The coaches never called plays to get the guy free either. I noticed for example that the Memphis coach called plays to get shots for McDermott a 3 pt shooter they have, in fact sometimes guys were called for moving screens, but they were trying to run sets. The Spurs didn’t seem interested in that kind of action.

Having said that, he may well suck, it’s just difficult to judge in this setting. There were many times the ball wasn’t moving at all. Primo is ok for an 18 year old but he’s no PG either and his dribble is loose, plus he doesn’t have much burst. Most of his damage was with his jumpshot. I’d say unfair to judge Wieskamp in that setting, but he’s not the kind of guy that will make plays off the dribble so he looked like nobody in a loose pick up game atmosphere without a true PG.


Cheers for the break down. :bobo We'll see what the future holds for our newest draft picks!

[SAGirl]

Yup exactly why he needs to play with the main squad so they can have DJ and Derrick slashing to the hoop and kicking it to him and knocking down open shots. I don’t want him at all in the G-League.
Been saying that myself.

[Ice009]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/josh-primo-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-talks-with-devin-vassell-of-the-picture-id1234517109?s=2048x2048

What shoes are Vassell and Primo wearing?

[SpurPadre]

Already better defender than Forbes and Walker, two guys he'll be competing with for time.

True but my Grandma is a better defender than Forbes lol.

[spurs1990]

Trying to understand if a Murray and a Primo can start on a future Spurs team. Are they redundant or complimentary

[BillMc]

True but my Grandma is a better defender than Forbes lol.

How's her jumpshot? Will she sign for the Midlevel exception?

[lefty20]

How's her jumpshot? Will she sign for the Midlevel exception?

Why would she when she's gonna be glued to the bench behind Forbes? Granma's got better things to do with her time, tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

Just two summer league games but I would love to hear the draft experts that criticized the spurs for taking Primo at 12. Bill simmons and Ryan Russello drilled the spurs on their podcast and totally clowned them for the pick

most people didn't have a problem with the pick, they had a problem with not trading down to pick him. I always give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting.

[RC_Drunkford]

even Desmond Bane was impressed with this kid. And Bane is an NBA player. You could tell by his body language that he respects Primo's game and he even said it in the interview. This kid is special. Can definitely develop into a 20 PPG scorer

[Dejounte]

Trying to understand if a Murray and a Primo can start on a future Spurs team. Are they redundant or complimentary

As complementary as DeMar was to Murray when DeMar would share playmaking duties with him. The current system doesnt rely on one point to run the game. It’s going to be shared by multiple playmakers to keep the defense guessing. Primo adds a new layer to the predictable offense we’ve had in years’ past since he can actually shoot and he has a decent shot creation package. Also, he’s pretty good insurance for White whenever he has his annual injury. I think eventually Primo bumps White down to the bench so White’s body can be preserved for a full season.

[Blackhaus]

Are we expecting to even see Primo with the varsity team for at the least 1.5 to 2 years? Backcourt Roster could look very different by then even with DM and twinkle toes under contract so who cares who fits next to who right now. To me Primos fit on this current construction of a roster doesn’t matter. He just needs to become stronger and his best possible version of himself in the next 2 years. Whether that be as a point or if he’s grows a little as a combo guard/forward. Let’s not get too excited as he’s playing against ALOT of fodder. He def has the tools and he’s seems to have the confidence and drive so let’s see.

[spurspl]

what the heck has happened with their 3pt shooting? last two games was awful, especially vassell and wieskamp should have a better 3pt%

[Atl Spur]

Primo is playing with the big club....pop doesn’t have time to slow walk him! He may get that TP treatment

[Blackhaus]

what the heck has happened with their 3pt shooting? last two games was awful, especially vassell and wieskamp should have a better 3pt%

a lot of it has too do with playing with bad players. Neither of them are getting good open spot up looks. Vassell has being pretty much all one on one and that’s really not his game at this point. wieskamp is a g league player for a few years. If he can become a capable defender and a 45% three point shooter he might get to play with the big boys as a late 2nd to 3rd string player. His rebounding has been pretty good, that’s about it.

[Atl Spur]

This kid is different and the Spurs weren’t willing to ignore it! We may end up having to verify why 1-11 didn’t select him....time will tell!

[Blackhaus]

Primo is playing with the big club....pop doesn’t have time to slow walk him! He may get that TP treatment

very wishful thinking. He’d be behind DM, White, Vassell, Forbes, Walker and prob Tre Jones at this point. I’d be surprised if Primo makes it out of the G league by mid of the season after the upcoming one. Now Pop is gone or Primo becomes an overnight superstar, then we may have a chance.

[Atl Spur]

a lot of it has too do with playing with bad players. Neither of them are getting good open spot up looks. Vassell has being pretty much all one on one and that’s really not his game at this point. wieskamp is a g league player for a few years. If he can become a capable defender and a 45% three point shooter he might get to play with the big boys as a late 2nd to 3rd string player. His rebounding has been pretty good, that’s about it.

Joe is going to be fine when they start playing structured....he’s just getting acclimated.his shot will start to fall but I’m observing his defense & ball handling more than anything. He’s currently forcing stuff out of frustration I can tell,he’s used to structure at Iowa.

[Atl Spur]

very wishful thinking. He’d be behind DM, White, Vassell, Forbes, Walker and prob Tre Jones at this point. I’d be surprised if Primo makes it out of the G league by mid of the season after the upcoming one. Now Pop is gone or Primo becomes an overnight superstar, then we may have a chance.

I hope you’re wrong, we’ve seen this go down both ways in the past! He may force their hand with his play and what we do in free agency

[Russ]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1423812003542585350

Even when Primo gets picked he fights on and dogs his man all the way to he rack.

If only you could combine Walker's explosiveness with Primo's everything else.

[BillMc]

Why would she when she's gonna be glued to the bench behind Forbes? Granma's got better things to do with her time, tbh.
:lol

[talkspurs]

They are saying on NBA tv that Pop is calling it a retool and they are not rebuilding.
Um Pop...who exactly are we retooling around? Old man Probably still think Timmy is still on the team lol

:pop: Did you miss that we signed Bryn Forbes? He is our new star. I was surprised we got him so cheap.:pop:

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

Generally like what I’ve seen in 2 minutes of Primo. But hey Vassell is lighting it up and it is SL

[Dex]

Sorry if this was already posted:

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[EricB]

most people didn't have a problem with the pick, they had a problem with not trading down to pick him. I always give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting.


he was gone at 13 or 16. There was no trading down to get him.

[EricB]

Sorry if this was already posted:

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“Devin Booker but with defense”

is how he was described in the workouts and in scouting

[SpurPadre]

How's her jumpshot? Will she sign for the Midlevel exception?

She's 85 so right around the age TD and Manu were when they retired! She'll think about it as she's not too keen on carrying Forbes' scrub ass.

[BillMc]

She's 85 so right around the age TD and Manu were when they retired! She'll think about it as she's not too keen on carrying Forbes' scrub ass.
:lol
Understandable.

[szkorhetz]

he was gone at 13 or 16. There was no trading down to get him.
There is literally zero proof for that.

[Maddog]

most people didn't have a problem with the pick, they had a problem with not trading down to pick him. I always give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting.

And there was credible rumors teams right after the Spurs saw the same things.
I always hate player comparison, but he reminds me of DeRozan, except with a 3point shot and defense...
We'll never mind

[SPURt]

Just two summer league games but I would love to hear the draft experts that criticized the spurs for taking Primo at 12. Bill simmons and Ryan Russello drilled the spurs on their podcast and totally clowned them for the pick
I heard that pod too, but it’ll come at the next level when Primo starts out performing people drafted before him. Of all the young guys the Spurs currently have, Primo is the one I’ve found most impressive when watching them play in summer league. Hopefully he develops and it translates with the A team.

[koriwhat]

Sorry if this was already posted:

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I haven't seen anything of this kid but what I just saw was impressive especially his poise. Looks like he's literally just going through the motions. I also thought that step back was luck until I realized most the shots he took in that video were of the same step back. Impressive and can't wait to see him in the big league.

[Seventyniner]

There is literally zero proof for that.

There's zero proof either way.

It isn't really justifiable to assume that the Spurs could have traded down and still snagged Primo. Maybe it was possible, maybe it wasn't.

[The Truth #6]

I'm excited for Primo. Love the poise. He's showing an ability to make difficult shots. I just hope that he isn't having to take difficult shots because he can't get by anyone. That was a knock on him, I believe, so it will be interesting to see how that develops. But big picture, he does look like someone who can contribute something early while still learning and expanding his game.

[The Truth #6]

Sorry if this was already posted:

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Wrong thread for this comment, but interesting that very early in the video the commentators says that Mitch is in constant communication with Coach Pop...doesn't sound like he's leaving if he's in day to day communication about the progress of the players WHILE coaching in the Olympics. Just saying.

[wildbill2u]

Of course this is a highlight video, not the real game, but I noticed they are letting Primo bring the ball up and get the team set. Now in most of this action he is also going to take a shot, but if anyone could see the entire game I'd like to know if he is actually operating as a PG in the summer league.

[alfahdlan]

https://twitter.com/thetyjager/status/1423805329553436674?s=21

These are DDR-like handles.

i kept forgetting he is from Canada. For sure, he looked up to DDR growing up.

[PhantomDashCam]

Of course this is a highlight video, not the real game, but I noticed they are letting Primo bring the ball up and get the team set. Now in most of this action he is also going to take a shot, but if anyone could see the entire game I'd like to know if he is actually operating as a PG in the summer league.

He is, so far as acting as a primary initiator in P’nR action. Spurs aren’t really running any plays, just motion sets and on ball screens for Vassell and Primo. His game actually reminds me a little of Bradley Beals, specifically the mid range form and shot creation package.


https://youtu.be/fIguQKap5AU

While Vassell is focusing primarily on scoring, Primo seems to be alternating between that and finding the roll man, shooters off of it.
I think this is by design. Impressed with both so far.

[MemphisGirl]

lol. SAgirl literally making stuff up at this point and still finding a way to praise fathead for being a 3rd year scrub who needed to go to SL.

According to her logic, Lonnie should play in SL this year b/c he still has things he needs to work on tbh

Kyle is amazing. You shut your mouth!

[Eaglenole2002]

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[Russ]

The Vegas Summer League starts at 3:00 SA time on NBATV with Boston vs. Atlanta.

Juhann Begarin is on the Celtics' roster. He's a 19 year old guard from France that I was really hoping the Spurs would pick at 41 (he was available, he went at 45).

Hopefully, he'll get to play today and we'll get a glimpse of what we may have missed.

I think he's going to be a pretty nice NBA player in time.

[rankingtear]

The Vegas Summer League starts at 3:00 SA time on NBATV with Boston vs. Atlanta.

Juhann Begarin is on the Celtics' roster. He's a 19 year old guard from France that I was really hoping the Spurs would pick at 41 (he was available, he went at 45).

Hopefully, he'll get to play today and we'll get a glimpse of what we may have missed.

I think he's going to be a pretty nice NBA player in time.

Nice comp:

He’s got a build and a playing style that reminds of Lonnie Walker but not as much feel for the game as Lonnie.

[Russ]

Nice comp:

He’s got a build and a playing style that reminds of Lonnie Walker but not as much feel for the game as Lonnie.

:lol

[Degoat]

Scottish Barnes looking like a bust for the raptors already lmao jk he’ll figure it out but it’s funny to me how the draft experts looked at guys like Primo & Kuminga and said they wouldnt be ready for years and they have performed great so far

[Degoat]

Jalen Johnson 20 points 10 rebounds in his SL debut, didn’t see any red flags out on the court lol

[Mr. Body]

Lol, one fucking game. Johnson is a big time bomb. Maybe he'll be good, but sure as hell wouldn't be for the Spurs and he's still likely to be a fucking headcase. Give Barnes time. It's summer league.

[Sugus]

There is literally zero proof for that.

False.

[Marks, via the Lowe Post] "I got a couple texts from GMs saying if not for the Spurs, we'd be getting lambasted right now" in reference to how mock drafts don't always align with teams' interests

[tonight...you]

Jalen Johnson 20 points 10 rebounds in his SL debut, didn’t see any red flags out on the court lol
He might turn out.
He might tune out midway through the season.

I'm happy with watching Primo and how he handles things atm.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

Scottish Barnes looking like a bust for the raptors already lmao jk he’ll figure it out but it’s funny to me how the draft experts looked at guys like Primo & Kuminga and said they wouldnt be ready for years and they have performed great so far
lol you made this comment in the first quarter I could tell. :lol

[Degoat]

He might turn out.
He might tune out midway through the season.

I'm happy with watching Primo and how he handles things atm.

For sure! I wouldn’t change the primo pick, I’ve really liked what I’ve seen from him. I just think it’s interesting seeing how all the prospects do that teams/fans were high on

[Degoat]

lol you made this comment in the first quarter I could tell. :lol

Yeah lmao, he started playing more comfortable after he got a breather in the first quarter

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8TR3DwXsAMTXtp?format=jpg&name=large

Kid is 6 foot 9.

[Degoat]

Sengun looking pretty solid for the rockets so far, he isn’t finishing but you can tell he has a lot of post moves, keeps drawing fouls on the Cavs

[SAGirl]

Really liking sengun out there. Looks a little winded but very skilled.

[tonight...you]

For sure! I wouldn’t change the primo pick, I’ve really liked what I’ve seen from him. I just think it’s interesting seeing how all the prospects do that teams/fans were high on
I truly believe that this was the most volatile Draft in maybe history because of Covid and that "reaches" were going to be a certainty.

You're right. The development and picks from this Draft are going to be a curious and interesting bunch to follow.

Primo being at the top of the heap whether you're a Spurs fan, or not.

[DPG21920]

I’ll be in Vegas this week to catch a game…doubt I’ll see Vassell but hoping I see Primo still.

[tonight...you]

I’ll be in Vegas this week to catch a game…doubt I’ll see Vassell but hoping I see Primo still.
Look forward to your observations.
Used to go to Vegas bi-weekly, when I worked in LA.

I liked it better in the early 2000's, but maybe I'm just getting middle-aged, lol.

[DPG21920]

Look forward to your observations.
Used to go to Vegas bi-weekly, when I worked in LA.

I liked it better in the early 2000's, but maybe I'm just getting middle-aged, lol.

Haha I still enjoy Vegas; I don’t party as much but I do eat better vs going when I’m younger which to me is a great trade off.

Sucks with covid flaring up but I’m vaccinated

[tonight...you]

Haha I still enjoy Vegas; I don’t party as much but I do eat better vs going when I’m younger which to me is a great trade off.

Sucks with covid flaring up but I’m vaccinated
Hear that. We had a Classic Film Festival here and I'm so glad to be Vaxxed and able to go with less worry.
Saw some great films in a remarkable theater and such memories are to be cherished.

Totes get you about the less partying and reallocating the funds to other endeavors like fine dining.

Incredible opportunities to be had in that town for such experiences.


I look forward to your Summer League observations!

[SAGirl]

Sengun grabs position but doesn’t get the ball smdh. Will have to record and watch later. Things to do

[BackHome]

I’ll be in Vegas this week to catch a game…doubt I’ll see Vassell but hoping I see Primo still.

I think Vassell might play as he was not in good shape so they might want him to keep on working on some things and getting him into playing shape for the new season.

DPG - Stay In Don't Be A Super Spreader...lol..............Just kidding looking forward to your observations on all of the new kids :toast

[DPG21920]

I think Vassell might play as he was not in good shape so they might want him to keep on working on some things and getting him into playing shape for the new season.

DPG - Stay In Don't Be A Super Spreader...lol..............Just kidding looking forward to your observations on all of the new kids :toast

Lol I am vaccinated and will quarantine away from my family when I get back - definitely being cautious around those that don’t chose to travel. Anyone in Vegas next to me is taking our own risks though lol

[tonight...you]

Sengun grabs position but doesn’t get the ball smdh. Will have to record and watch later. Things to do
The kids, Sengun and Primo and all their ilk, won't gain us much through micromanaging, or should I say: micro-observing every single play during these games.
We can think there are tendencies, but they may be false from the environment of SL itself.

You know. You've made comments about it.

These are kids and they should be judged through an amalgam of games and then through their next amalgam of games and then using multiple judgements as to their progress from there to here.
And so on and so forth.

We can put each moment under a microscope, but that won't bring us Truth.

Well... not usually.

[ismael-robert]

Sengun grabs position but doesn’t get the ball smdh. Will have to record and watch later. Things to do

Lol u write as if somebody standing by waiting on u

[slick'81]

Sengun grabs position but doesn’t get the ball smdh. Will have to record and watch later. Things to do

Hes got 9/9 at the half

[SAGirl]

The kids, Sengun and Primo and all their ilk, won't gain us much through micromanaging, or should I say: micro-observing every single play during these games.
We can think there are tendencies, but they may be false from the environment of SL itself.

You know. You've made comments about it.

These are kids and they should be judged through an amalgam of games and then through their next amalgam of games and then using multiple judgements as to their progress from there to here.
And so on and so forth.

We can put each moment under a microscope, but that won't bring us Truth.

Well... not usually.
Of course, using this like a game thread, impromptu reaction. Good thing for Both Houston and Cavaliers is that your guys are looking good. They grabbed some talent.

[PhantomDashCam]

Kai Jones just ‘Space Jam-med’ Portland. Ridiculous.



https://youtu.be/PPgw-5BKJDM

[SAGirl]

Impressed by Mobley

[tonight...you]

Of course, using this like a game thread, impromptu reaction. Good thing for Both Houston and Cavaliers is that your guys are looking good. They grabbed some talent.
Why would you say that? I've never rooted, or commented about them, as a fan.

That was weird.

[SAGirl]

Why would you say that? I've never rooted, or commented about them, as a fan.

That was weird.
I am talking about a SL game I am watching on ESPN and u?

[SAGirl]

Wow Josh Giddey already just in the first couple of minutes twisted his ankle and is out.
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[emanueldavidginobili]

Sengun 15-15 and 4 blocks. Runs the floor exceptionally well.

[playblair]

someone tell me how brian wright got the job? sjw pressure? woke pressure? blm pressure?

[FvckMavs]

It’s weird that Coach Mitch Johnson said he didn’t know why Luca didn’t play in the summer league. If he is healthy but simply refused to play, not sure how he is gonna get minutes next season.

[Michael Jordan.]

Impressed by Mobley
Ehh I wasn’t. He got pushed around a lot

[spurs1990]

someone tell me how brian wright got the job? sjw pressure? woke pressure? blm pressure?

He brought in Weiskamp, McDermott, Collins, and Landale in the last two weeks. Not sure any of those work for our guy Wright. I still think Buford and Popovixh make the final calls

[John B]

Jalen Johnson, 20 pts, 10 rebounds and a vicious block.


https://youtu.be/qsIscl40WVo

[ismael-robert]

Oh phew sa girl was impressed by Mobley we can all breath a sigh of relief cause we were all wondering and waiting

[Kurik]

Oh phew sa girl was impressed by Mobley we can all breath a sigh of relief cause we were all wondering and waiting

Someone seems to watch for whenever SAGirl posts. It’s kind of cute in a creepy way.

[Chinook]

Someone seems to watch for whenever SAGirl posts. It’s kind of cute in a creepy way.

It's gross how she barely posts and folks still follow her around to give her shit.

[BackHome]

Yeah I don't know why but it's pretty sad

[Robz4000]

It's gross how she barely posts and folks still follow her around to give her shit.

She's living in their head rent-free tbh.

[ismael-robert]

In my opinion and I don't kno why it's just kind of annoying to me when people post on here like they're some sort of expert. This isn't just aimed at one person either. Those who write these long diatribes, and as someone else pointed out before, it's like they think they're getting noticed for a career in journalism or sports analysis...using words like "they watched film" and "my analysis "...unless u went to school for it or get paid on outside then snore...go spend more time with ur family or on making one. especially people who likely never played ball then come acting like experts...sorry finally had to vent...just one of my peeves in here...its like "u really spent that much time"...now everyone go ahead n commence coming to their rescue if u haven't learned by now I won't waste my time on responses n come backs. My opinion is likely meaningless as well so take it n move on cause I will...or maybe my post will make someone go spend more time talking to their spouse or sign up for a dating site n find a partner, go volunteer in community and in that case ur welcome lol

[Robz4000]

In my opinion and I don't kno why it's just kind of annoying to me when people post on here like they're some sort of expert. This isn't just aimed at one person either. Those who write these long diatribes, and as someone else pointed out before, it's like they think they're getting noticed for a career in journalism or sports analysis...using words like "they watched film" and "my analysis "...unless u went to school for it or get paid on outside then snore...go spend more time with ur family or on making one. especially people who likely never played ball then come acting like experts...sorry finally had to vent...just one of my peeves in here...its like "u really spent that much time"...now everyone go ahead n commence coming to their rescue if u haven't learned by now I won't waste my time on responses n come backs. My opinion is likely meaningless as well so take it n move on cause I will...or maybe my post will make someone go spend more time talking to their spouse or sign up for a dating site n find a partner, go volunteer in community and in that case ur welcome lol

:lol if they upset you then don't read them. I myself enjoy reading a lot of people's takes here, even if some of them are retarded. Hell, there have been posts here taken and used nearly verbatim by those "who went to school for it or get paid for it".

[BackHome]

Once you been on here long enough you figure out they are certain groups that kinda clicks - The deep thinkers who love to debate Forever - the real intense fan that follows every metric and every player good or bad - the people who understand NBA cap and real specific stuff that I can barely follow but still very useful information - the casual fan - And how can I not forget that famous “My Favorite Player Is Better then Your Favorite Player. Lol

There are lots of old timers good or bad but they all bring something different and they have Way More Knowledge On The Spurs then I Do. I think I was a Lurker for about two years before I posted lol. So as always participate to the convos that you find useful and just disregard things you don’t like and don’t take things personal and you will enjoy the site. :bobo

[PhantomDashCam]

Imagine coming to a basketball forum and getting upset by finding basketball takes on here.

Talking to our spouses is half the reason we ended up here. :lol

[John B]

In my opinion and I don't kno why it's just kind of annoying to me when people post on here like they're some sort of expert. This isn't just aimed at one person either. Those who write these long diatribes, and as someone else pointed out before, it's like they think they're getting noticed for a career in journalism or sports analysis...using words like "they watched film" and "my analysis "...unless u went to school for it or get paid on outside then snore...go spend more time with ur family or on making one. especially people who likely never played ball then come acting like experts...sorry finally had to vent...just one of my peeves in here...its like "u really spent that much time"...now everyone go ahead n commence coming to their rescue if u haven't learned by now I won't waste my time on responses n come backs. My opinion is likely meaningless as well so take it n move on cause I will...or maybe my post will make someone go spend more time talking to their spouse or sign up for a dating site n find a partner, go volunteer in community and in that case ur welcome lol

By the end of the day, we’re all Spurs fans, whether you agree or disagree with some opinions. That’s what fans do :lol

Me, I’ve learned to follow some posters seriously on their opinions. And I’ve taken liberty as well to give mine. It’s a free world. If you don’t like one’s take, then skip it. It’s interesting to learn different takes. Like I happen to like Jalen Johnson a lot, while most of the people here don’t. Well, we’re all wrong, aren’t we? Who would’ve thought the PATFO would pick Primo? So there you go. It’s an open forum. Peace :bobo

[cd98]

In my opinion and I don't kno why it's just kind of annoying to me when people post on here like they're some sort of expert. This isn't just aimed at one person either. Those who write these long diatribes, and as someone else pointed out before, it's like they think they're getting noticed for a career in journalism or sports analysis...using words like "they watched film" and "my analysis "...unless u went to school for it or get paid on outside then snore...go spend more time with ur family or on making one. especially people who likely never played ball then come acting like experts...sorry finally had to vent...just one of my peeves in here...its like "u really spent that much time"...now everyone go ahead n commence coming to their rescue if u haven't learned by now I won't waste my time on responses n come backs. My opinion is likely meaningless as well so take it n move on cause I will...or maybe my post will make someone go spend more time talking to their spouse or sign up for a dating site n find a partner, go volunteer in community and in that case ur welcome lol

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this is a weird place to come if you don't want to read takes from "non-experts." But I hardly think most people in the sports commentary world are anymore qualified to have an opinion than anyone here. Most of them may be journalists, but their only credibility is that they watched the game, which is the same as other fans. And most of those "experts" that talk about the Spurs only watch one or two games a year and actually know less about the Spurs than anyone on here. The true "experts" are the ones that study the salary cap and that work in the actual organizations. But they don't always get it right and part of the fun is coming here and posting your opinion and then needing to defend it. And sometimes it is humbling when you argue something and it gets destroyed and you got no defense. However, that is the fun of it and why a site like this exists. If you just wanted to get the sports updates, you could do that on Twitter or ESPN.

[Russ]

Headed to Vegas right now to see the first three Spurs SL games.

As a Spurs fan, the Vegas SL is my favorite time of the year! (lately)

[pad300]

Sengun 15-15 and 4 blocks. Runs the floor exceptionally well.

Josh looks like a good prospect, but, we are going to regret passing on Sengun. He's a potential #1 option and we passed ... Should have traded for the 16th (stealing it from the Rockets).

[playblair]

Josh looks like a good prospect, but, we are going to regret passing on Sengun. He's a potential #1 option and we passed ... Should have traded for the 16th (stealing it from the Rockets).
sengu cant shoot stop overreacting

[Dejounte]

People didn't believe me when I said Duarte was going to be more than a role player and was worthy of the #12 pick. People put too much emphasis on age.

Game is still going, but he has a statline of 4-6 FG (3-5 3P), 3-3 FT, 2 rebs, 2 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 14 pts

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1424810185961443336

https://twitter.com/Pacers/status/1424795911075545088

https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/1424806890316304399

Doesn't look like a 3 and D player to me.

[Chinook]

Even though the SL is the second-best US league, the step down ks tremendous. Most role-players who can make it in the NBA can be SL stars

[KobesAchilles]

Yeah this was the year I really wanted an extra draft pick. I was excited about so many prospects. None of them Josh fucking Primo :lol

But Duarte and Sengun would’ve been awesome to somehow get. Now we re-sign Bryn Forbes bc we have a guy that isn’t going to contribute anything for maybe another 2 years.

Anyways in my expert opinion, as a person who put in the time and really scouted all the prospects, also I did a deep dive analysis on the top 35 prospects and I can say without doubt that we are going to regret signing Bryn Forbes.

[spurraider21]

Even though the SL is the second-best US league, the step down ks tremendous. Most role-players who can make it in the NBA can be SL stars
except for fringe circumstances, players who aren't SL stars wont cut it as rotation players. guys like forbes and jonathan simmons were crushing SL. slomo was a SL star right away and MVP in what, year 2 or 3?

[Chinook]

except for fringe circumstances, players who aren't SL stars wont cut it as rotation players. guys like forbes and jonathan simmons were crushing SL. slomo was a SL star right away and MVP in what, year 2 or 3?

Yeah his second year. NBA players are all really good at basketball. The scrubbiest of scrubs would still dominate in most leagues.

[spurraider21]

Yeah his second year. NBA players are all really good at basketball. The scrubbiest of scrubs would still dominate in most leagues.
yeah, and anderson didnt really come into his own with the spurs until well after year 2

but yeah, for every random story of "oh tim duncan had a bad summer league game against ostertag"... i feel like guys who cant shine in SL cant even get by as average rotation players in the big leagues

[SAGirl]

Quindary Weatherspoon looking good for Brooklyn.

[Ocotillo]

Quindary Weatherspoon looking good for Brooklyn.

Of course :lol

[SAGirl]

Trey Murphy with an impressive showing. He was 1 of the oldest guys in the draft, and not someone I thought had a high ceiling, but he was impressive.wow.
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[SAGirl]

Of course :lol
He has been very aggressive driving to the basket. He has stood out for his energy.

[SAGirl]

Desmond Bane impressive obviou sly. Probably an increased role for him in Memphis this season.

[Cardinal]

Has the Spurs game already started? Or is it being played on the same court as Brooklyn-Memphis?

[SAGirl]

Has the Spurs game already started? Or is it being played on the same court as Brooklyn-Memphis?
It's in the same court as Mem-BkN

[spurraider21]

Desmond Bane impressive obviou sly. Probably an increased role for him in Memphis this season.
Bane was playing 20 MPG as a regular rotation player in the NBA. he should be doing well in SL

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Kai Jones just ‘Space Jam-med’ Portland. Ridiculous.



https://youtu.be/PPgw-5BKJDM

Very painful to watch this brother! Kai has high upside. But now Primo is our guy. I have to trust the Front Office.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Trey Murphy with an impressive showing. He was 1 of the oldest guys in the draft, and not someone I thought had a high ceiling, but he was impressive.wow.
1424837235531190272

Hard to swallow this. So I choose not to watch. I liked both Kai and Murphy and hoped we can get both. But now I hope Primo is better than both of them combined. Go Spurs go!

[Russ]

Watching the game up close and personal, this is not team of shooters. Or rebounders. I bet on the game and gave a point. Fortunately, it was a small amount.

[paperboy77]

Most boring Spurs SL team ever I think. Who's the coach? Is it that little black dude? Don't think they are respecting him too much.

[Russ]

Vegas is completely masked up now.

I was here a few weeks ago for the US team exhibitions. No masks in casinos or at the game.

Now it's masks at the games and anywhere indoors.

It's surprising how much a touristy place like this can change so quickly.

But I'm all in if that's what's required.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1102648018782879746/dzWYu940_normal.jpg
Noah Magaro-George @N_Magaro
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Josh Primo will not play in the second leg of San Antonio’s back-to-back against the Bulls today, per Spurs PR.

[Degoat]

Well shit! I was looking forward to the game tonight, hopefully Vassell still plays

[timvp]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1102648018782879746/dzWYu940_normal.jpg
Noah Magaro-George @N_Magaro
(https://twitter.com/N_Magaro) 5m (https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1425221258384330754)
Josh Primo will not play in the second leg of San Antonio’s back-to-back against the Bulls today, per Spurs PR.

:depressed

[BillMc]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1102648018782879746/dzWYu940_normal.jpg
Noah Magaro-George @N_Magaro
(https://twitter.com/N_Magaro) 5m (https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1425221258384330754)
Josh Primo will not play in the second leg of San Antonio’s back-to-back against the Bulls today, per Spurs PR.

Thanks Ace!

Yeah, those 18 year old legs can't handle back-to-backs. :lol

[tonight...you]

Thanks Ace!

Yeah, those 18 year old legs can't handle back-to-backs. :lol
Kind of equally likely he got a little shook and the team wants the (very) young man to take a breath, reset, walk through why he had some struggles and make sure he doesn't dig himself into a mental hole.

Not everyone's Kobe.

[BillMc]

Kind of equally likely he got a little shook and the team wants the (very) young man to take a breath, reset, walk through why he had some struggles and make sure he doesn't dig himself into a mental hole.

Not everyone's Kobe.

Your point is probably right about Primo. (Though I don't agree about Kobe....The Kobe "warrior" myth really annoys me.)

[tonight...you]

Your point is probably right about Primo. (Though I don't agree about Kobe....The Kobe "warrior" myth really annoys me.)
I guess you could consider me speaking metaphorically?
That might help with the annoyance.

Otherwise I could RX you something for it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

What the thinking on Devin?

Can he give us 15ppg in the big leagues right now?

[Russ]

I can't believe I'm giving two points to bet on team who is 0-4 and whose best player is out.

But it is Vegas and the wager is small.

[siraulo23]

wtf :lmao at least we get to see more Tre and Vassell.

is Samanic joining the team at a later date? he replied to a tweet regarding summer league

[tonight...you]

wtf :lmao at least we get to see more Tre and Vassell.

is Samanic joining the team at a later date? he replied to a tweet regarding summer league
Sammy joining the SL is probably up to the coaching staff at this point.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Of course Primo is out tonight lmao smh

[JeffDuncan]

Thanks Ace!

Yeah, those 18 year old legs can't handle back-to-backs. :lol


Primo was held out - on the 3rd? - with a calf muscle tweak/ tightness. So currently it’s probably a wise precaution. A change of shoes can contribute to such things, btw, even if the new shoes are better. Anyway, no reason to force the issue with him. I very very seriously doubt that he would miss a game for any emotional reason related to playing basketball.

[Chomag]

I guess 18 year olds need rest these days.....

[Kurik]

Sharife Cooper hits a buzzer beating 3 for a total of 5 3s and is looking pretty good for the Hawks. Definitely dropped too far in the draft.

[spurraider21]

patrick williams struggling like this is embarrassing. the bulls are counting on him to start this year...

[Mr. Body]

Primo has literally never played back-to-back games at this level. I wish I could watch him play, too, but I'm not shitting my drawers about this.

[slick'81]

I guess 18 year olds need rest these days.....


Leave it to the spurs to over baby a baby

[Kurgan]

Not everyone's Kobe.

Not everybody's a narcissist rapist, true

[spurraider21]

nothing interesting in the spurs pipeline right now. stark contrast from previous years

[Michael Jordan.]

Sengun was a goddamn steal

[Michael Jordan.]

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[slick'81]

Sengun was a goddamn steal


I hope he doesnt turn out to be. Spurs seemed to have lil interest in him. Passing on halliburton for vassell ,and then sengun for primo might be costly

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs picking trash over Sengun :lmao :lmao :lmao

[tonight...you]

Not everybody's a narcissist rapist, true
Yep. Not everyone is.

[slick'81]

Tre jones might be the best player on the spurs summer league teams:wow

[Michael Jordan.]

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[Kurgan]

I'm watching the Rockets summer league game. Their youngsters are really fun to watch, especially compared to the unathletic "high character" scrubs on the Spurs. It's sad that the Rockets have reloaded with better young talent in one season after Harden than the Spurs have in three years after Nephew.

[slick'81]

Sengun with 15/5/1/1/4 heading to the 4th:(

[dbestpro]

I guess we are all finding out what it's like to be Sacramento.

[slick'81]

I guess we are all finding out what it's like to be Sacramento.


Atleast were finally letting the young core- kj,dm,devin,white,lonnie,luka,tre sink or swim. Not to mention bryn forbes championship experience

[Kurgan]

I guess we are all finding out what it's like to be Sacramento.

Treadmill teams draft treadmill talent.

[K...]

I guess we are all finding out what it's like to be Sacramento.

sacremento is when you pay to keep middling talent. we're not there yet.

[Mr. Body]

1425277966267949057

I think it'll be a major mistake to have passed on Sengun, but at least Houston will be a basket case for a while.

[mo7888]

Watching the Det-Hou game too... I really really like Sengun... Christopher looks good too... on Detroit I was legitimately surprised how solid Garza looks... if he would have committed to his body like this before his senior season he would have made more money..

[Michael Jordan.]

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feels good to have a GM who drafts well

[objective]

Sengun with 19, 7 & 4 blocks in 20 minutes so far

If only he had played at the combine and lit up a bunch of undrafted kids instead of dominating grown men in turkey

Maybe then ...

[GAustex]

And spurs drafted a middle schooler. Not his fault though.
Patience I guess

[Kurgan]

Fantastic draft by Houston. All their draftees look really good.

[BackHome]

Yeah Houston showing the Spurs on how to Tank and how to Draft - I hope the Spurs Organization is taking notes..

[Blackhaus]

Fucking front office. Sengun looking great, Jalen Johnson looking super quick and athletic. Don’t worry, by the time Primo is done with his rookie contract, he might be ready.

[slick'81]

Yeah Houston showing the Spurs on how to Tank and how to Draft - I hope the Spurs Organization is taking notes..


Trust me,they arent

[Kurgan]

Fucking front office. Sengun looking great, Jalen Johnson looking super quick and athletic. Don’t worry, by the time Primo is done with his rookie contract, he might be ready.

Primo can't even use age as an excuse when Sengun's only five months older than him

[Dennis the Menace]

Yeah Houston showing the Spurs on how to Tank and how to Draft - I hope the Spurs Organization is taking notes..

They are too busy worshipping Pop and feeding him grapes.

[Blackhaus]

Primo can't even use age as an excuse when Sengun's only five months older than him

just when I couldn’t be angrier, you drop that shit.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs FO has been garbage since 2017. What else is new? :wakeup

[Kurgan]

What's alarming is that the 6'5" guard the Rockets drafted with the 24th pick, Josh Christopher, looks better than our 12th pick. Having already taken Jalen Green, Sengun, and Garuba earlier in the draft, they get a nice guard prospect with a late pick. They knocked it out of the park with the draft

[GAustex]

The idea is to make good picks with your prized drafting spot-maybe not going with a hunch?

[Mr. Body]

A lot of teams missed on Sengun for some stupid reason. Too bad the Spurs did, too.

[noob cake]

1425285761297944577
feels good to have a GM who drafts well

Can a man legally move that quickly? I thought he was like Yao Ming level in mobility with Jokic level hopping skills?

[Mr. Body]

We're gonna watch Sengun torture Poeltl four times a year.

[Chomag]

Sigh... Its going to be painful to watch Sengun develop and blossom...on an archrival no less. It's Scola all over again.

[Kurgan]

The idea is to make good picks with your prized drafting spot-maybe not going with a hunch?

Problem is Spurs have not adjusted their drafting process. When they were a contender, they would look for standouts in the combine and take them with a late 1st. They're still doing the same thing despite drafting in the lottery. The top tier talent doesn't participate in the combine so they're basically looking at guys that go off on undrafted scrubs.

[slick'81]

Sigh... Its going to be painful to watch Sengun develop and blossom...on an archrival no less. It's Scola all over again.


We gotta concentrate on primo,and vassel .sengun&halliburton arent spurs. Our guys gotta develop, and grow. Hopefully primo doesnt rot in austin all season

[objective]

glad I'm not paying to watch their crap this season :rollin.

Could have rebuilt their frontcourt, but nooo

Saved 5 months in age at the expense of unteachable instinct, feel and touch, way to go!

[Robz4000]

:lol Wrong

[John B]

Bb-but the guy has character issue :(

I don’t know if Spurs even offered on JC. But Spurs could’ve gotten this guy (or Sengun) at a rookie contract. But wait, we “might” have a steal in Primo in two or 3 years :lmao:lmao


https://youtu.be/IEdB3gYRJqk

[J_Paco]

This draft class was loaded and pretty much everyone knew that. I would've loved Sengun (he was my guy for a while at that pick), but the team saw Primo's youth, offensive upside, advanced skillset (for an 18 Y.O. with a limited role in college) and most of all his ability to hit the three in multifaceted ways (something none of our current guards do well).

A lot of the kids drafted after Primo are looking mighty impressive, but it's only Summer League and they'll nearly all go through growing pains.

I don't expect Primo to have a "breakout" performance cause the talent around him, Vassell and Jones is lacking on this squad, but I'm also not gonna fawn over other kids having them.

They all come back down to Earth in September and going through struggles, while hopefully our guy can build up his skills in Austin. Many think he won't see time until 2023, but I would be surprised if his opportunities come much sooner.

[playblair]

sengun cant shoot stop whining about him...........just pack the paint & he becomes useless

[John B]

:lol

[rankingtear]

Problem is Spurs have not adjusted their drafting process. When they were a contender, they would look for standouts in the combine and take them with a late 1st. They're still doing the same thing despite drafting in the lottery. The top tier talent doesn't participate in the combine so they're basically looking at guys that go off on undrafted scrubs.

Well Vassell and Tre did not participate in the combine if that counts or just this year?

[spurspl]

sengun on fire but its not a surprise

[venitian navigator]

Probably this was a draft to bet on... But idk if some teams were willing to sell their late first picks for money or players... The point is that if okc was willing to do so, I wonder what could have been enough for their mid picks {16 and 18}...because Sengun and Jalen Johnson looks like players in roles we need and both with brilliant perspectives...

[Em-City]

sengun cant shoot stop whining about him...........just pack the paint & he becomes useless
He literally just hit a logo three in today's game

[Chinook]

Remember Patrick McCaw? I barely do.

[J_Paco]

Well Vassell and Tre did not participate in the combine if that counts or just this year?

That doesn't support their (meaning he isn't the only one saying that dumb shit) narrative, so no it doesn't count.:lol:lol

[J_Paco]

Remember Patrick McCaw? I barely do.

Again, doesn't support their narrative and apparently all these rookies - some will - are gonna just tear the NBA up. Summer League is always a clear and obvious indicator of regular season success.

[Seventyniner]

Can someone give me examples of players who played poorly in the Summer League but became good NBA players?

McCaw is a good example of someone who performed well in the Summer League but not in the NBA.

[Chinook]

Can someone give me examples of players who played poorly in the Summer League but became good NBA players?

McCaw is a good example of someone who performed well in the Summer League but not in the NBA.

I brought up McCaw because of how shitty people were about the Spurs passing on him for DJM.

But along those lines, Murray wasn't a good SL player and still made it in the NBA.

[Kurik]

Didn’t George Hill shoot like 25% in his first Summer League?

[SAGirl]

We're gonna watch Sengun torture Poeltl four times a year.
At least it will be fun watching Sengun.

[Russ]

Can someone give me examples of players who played poorly in the Summer League but became good NBA players?

McCaw is a good example of someone who performed well in the Summer League but not in the NBA.

Trea Young.

[SAGirl]

Sengun with 19, 7 & 4 blocks in 20 minutes so far

If only he had played at the combine and lit up a bunch of undrafted kids instead of dominating grown men in turkey

Maybe then ...

I hope they didn't pass on him bc they had Jakob.

[Dejounte]

god if it was so easy to project a player’s future based off summer league, the NBA should host summer league before the draft and not after

people like to simplify things so hard

[Dejounte]

Cunningham had a poor first game with 12 pts, that doesn’t mean he shouldnt have been the #1 pick

Kai jones just had 3 pts in a summer league the other night, but even I don’t think that means he should be a 2nd rounder because of one bad game

duarte is killing it, and I like him but it’s not like because of those games I think he’s a surefire star

Maybe judge a rookie after his rookie year has ended, and not after a couple summer league games. People love to react too quickly, maybe that’s why people love the news and its tendency to cause mass outrage

[TXstbobcat]

Can someone give me examples of players who played poorly in the Summer League but became good NBA players?

McCaw is a good example of someone who performed well in the Summer League but not in the NBA.

Tim Duncan didn’t play well in Summer League. Worked out pretty well for the Spurs. lol

[R. DeMurre]

It's fun to watch & make predictions/hope, but making a long term assessment of a 19/20 year old based on 2 or 3 summer league games is almost always impossible.
Better to relax and just enjoy the game.

That being said, I'm really looking forward to seeing Jordan Nwora play this season, after an impressive stint as the best guy on the Nigerian Olympic team, decent advanced stats as a rookie, and a very nice summer league.

[emanueldavidginobili]

1425290319990595584Sengun looking like a top 5 pick, this play is ridiculous lol. Also the Rockets had a helluva draft this year, hell even the trades they made last year Kenyon Martin Jr is looking really solid as well and Kevin Porter Jr has potential. Not a bad group of extremely young prospects.

[rjv]

i liked sengun and wanted him if available but it's also not a shock that he is doing so well in the summer league considering his background. the competition he's up against now is nothing compared to the turkish league. as chinook pointed out (with the patrick mccaw comparison), summer league is not a sure-fire metric (especially in regards to numbers or box score stats). i can say the same for pre-season (remember "sweet pea daniels"?).

[Seventyniner]

Appreciate the examples everyone. I shouldn't have acted like every player is either dominant or terrible in SL either.

[spurspl]

Trea Young.

he was chosen to 2nd best team SL in 2018

[SAGirl]

1425290319990595584

Sengun looking like a top 5 pick, this play is ridiculous lol. Also the Rockets had a helluva draft this year, hell even the trades they made last year Kenyon Martin Jr is looking really solid as well and Kevin Porter Jr has potential. Not a bad group of extremely young prospects.

Sengun only just turned 19 and already has better handles as a big that some Spurs :lol

[SAGirl]

i liked sengun and wanted him if available but it's also not a shock that he is doing so well in the summer league considering his background. the competition he's up against now is nothing compared to the turkish league. as chinook pointed out (with the patrick mccaw comparison), summer league is not a sure-fire metric (especially in regards to numbers or box score stats). i can say the same for pre-season (remember "sweet pea daniels"?).
Stop it. Sengun was not Pat McCaw, not before he got the league and not as rook in SL.

Also, I think Pat McCaw had talent, but he was a huge headcase who overrated himself instead of putting in work. He looked good in comparison to other guys his age, but he didn’t develop as expected…

[rjv]

Stop it. Sengun was not Pat McCaw, not before he got the league and not as rook in SL.

Also, I think Pat McCaw had talent, but he was a huge headcase who overrated himself instead of putting in work. He looked good in comparison to other guys his age, but he didn’t develop as expected…

it's not a comp; it's a point about summer league. the league is not there to gauge stat lines. it is there to gauge what a player shows. to this point, sengun has looked good (as he did in turkey) and has apparently won you over. as i stated, i wanted sengun before. you weren't so sure. but you and many other ST posters love to use the performance of others to belittle the spurs picks but this is all knee jerk. sengun will be in the NBA for many years but whether he's a star or not is yet to be seen. primo will not be the early success that sengun will be but we have no idea what his actual ceiling will be.

[The Truth #6]

So yeah, SL might not be a great predictor in general. But you can see skills, though obviously not consistency. That takes time. But Sengun is showing good skills. That’s definitely not indicative of something negative.

[rjv]

So yeah, SL might not be a great predictor in general. But you can see skills, though obviously not consistency. That takes time. But Sengun is showing good skills. That’s definitely not indicative of something negative.

Sengun has skills-that's why i wanted him. and he will be a solid player for years.

[duncan2150]

i'm surprised by the lack of talk about Tre Jones, he was pretty solid in his two summer league games.

Spurs don't have a superstar but he will be at least a really good back up PG imo. He is a good floor manager and his offense is pretty solid: finishing around the rim, mid range or shooting the 3 ( can be better but he can hit the 3).

I like what i saw for him.

[The Truth #6]

Sengun has skills-that's why i wanted him. and he will be a solid player for years.

I know. Ugh. Rockets got Garuba as well, my other player of interest. Hey, if our one of young guys makes even a modest leap I will be thrilled. Thinking about Primo is too frustrating. Chinook suggested the Spurs can’t take Primo if he can’t get minutes over Tre Jones. I don’t see him getting minutes over Tre Jones anytime soon, but hey, we’ll see.

[rjv]

i'm surprised but the lack of talk about Tre Jones, he was pretty solid in his two summer league games.

Spurs don't have a superstar but he will be at least a really good back up PG imo. He is a good floor manager and his offense is pretty solid: finishing around the rim, mid range or shooting the 3 ( can be better but he can hit the 3).

I like what i saw for him.

yeah, he was pretty solid last night. his assist numbers would have been better if he his teammates would be knocking down shots at a better clip.

[duncan2150]

yeah, he was pretty solid last night. his assist numbers would have been better if he his teammates would be knocking down shots at a better clip.


+1

[rjv]

I know. Ugh. Rockets got Garuba as well, my other player of interest. Hey, if our one of young guys makes even a modest leap I will be thrilled. Thinking about Primo is too frustrating. Chinook suggested the Spurs can’t take Primo if he can’t get minutes over Tre Jones. I don’t see him getting minutes over Tre Jones anytime soon, but hey, we’ll see.

my hope is that landale will bring to the table what sengun may have, but perhaps more since landale is presently a better three-point shooter. and i like garuba as well. rockets definitely had a nice draft.

[playblair]

:lol
y u edit bruv

[Russ]

he was chosen to 2nd best team SL in 2018

Most think that Trea Young disappointed in the Summer League.

https://www.nba.com/news/atlanta-hawks-trae-young-too-quick-judge-young-prospect

[SAGirl]

I know. Ugh. Rockets got Garuba as well, my other player of interest. Hey, if our one of young guys makes even a modest leap I will be thrilled. Thinking about Primo is too frustrating. Chinook suggested the Spurs can’t take Primo if he can’t get minutes over Tre Jones. I don’t see him getting minutes over Tre Jones anytime soon, but hey, we’ll see.
Even when Primo likely has a higher ceiling if he develops well, Tre is solid right now and looks readier to play. Well see what happens with Primo. I think he hasn’t shown how good of a shooter he is, because he’s pushed outside of his comfort zone (which SL is great for TBH), but in the RS, playing with other ballhandlers, he might look great and readier. I wouldn’t mind him at all getting time… but you know if he gets GLeague I wouldn’t be surprised either.

[pad300]

Primo is 100% going to the G-league this year. To develop the wider skill-set the spurs want him to have (assuming they see him as more than a 3&D guy, pretty likely at 12), he's gonna need reps. He won't get those on the main squad, so G-league it is.

[offset formation]

True but my Grandma is a better defender than Forbes lol.

is she 6'5" and 250?

[offset formation]

A lot of teams missed on Sengun for some stupid reason. Too bad the Spurs did, too.

funny how I was screaming for him for literal months prior to the draft.

edit: why?

because he could do a bunch of the things we were missing and do it from the paint. he's already an excellent passer. incredible footwork and finish from the post. great midrange game. great shot blocker. good rebounder. and with the potential to develop a very efficient 3 pt shot.

he's really just a nobrainer imo. especially given what the Spurs lack.

[slick'81]

funny how I was screaming for him for literal months prior to the draft.

poodle power is breathing easy now

[objective]

funny how I was screaming for him for literal months prior to the draft.

edit: why?

because he could do a bunch of the things we were missing and do it from the paint. he's already an excellent passer. incredible footwork and finish from the post. great midrange game. great shot blocker. good rebounder. and with the potential to develop a very efficient 3 pt shot.

he's really just a nobrainer imo. especially given what the Spurs lack.

And on top of all that ...

He's fun to watch!

He can play and he entertains.

[couchman]

The thing about the Spurs is that we are unlikely to get a superstar in a trade or in free agency, so we have to find one and develop one through the draft.
That means taking home run swings every time. That also means a lot of strikeouts, but hopefully we get another KLeonard situation where we find a young overlooked talent that can grown into a star.
Primo is that kind of pick. Samanic was as well.