Trump Executive Action thread

[Winehole23]

USAID is kaput

our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the constititution and democracy

[Winehole23]

it's as bad/worse than J6 and people need to start talking like it

[Winehole23]

Donating to Democrats can get you purged from trump's government


“Offenses” for the workers listed on the website include working on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-dei-women-minorities-stem-rcna189879), donating to Democrats and using pronouns (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-dei-hiv-cdc-website-removed-lgbtq-rcna190068) in their bios. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/federal-health-workers-terrified-dei-website-publishes-list-targets-rcna190711

[Winehole23]

Trump is essentially making lists of women and black people in government who are out of line. One purpose of the political purge is resegregating the US government.

[Winehole23]

are y'all ready to start killing other Americans?

you already broke our constitution


Musk has seized hold of critical levers of power and authority within the federal government, apparently enabling him to destroy federal agencies at will, barring congressional action or judicial pushback.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/trump-musk-federal-government.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uk4.Zr8y.c hiKQdzZop5C&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

[Winehole23]

No one in the executive branch has the legal authority to unilaterally cancel congressional appropriations. No one has the legal authority to turn the Treasury payments system into a means of political retribution. No one has the authority to summarily dismiss civil servants without cause (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-tweeted-he-can-fire-anyone-including-robert-mueller-here-ncna871166). No one has the authority to take down and scrub government websites of public data, itself paid for by American taxpayers. And no private citizen has the authority to access the sensitive data of American citizens for either information gathering or their own, unknown purposes.

[Winehole23]

To describe the current situation in the executive branch as merely a constitutional crisis is to understate the significance of what we’re experiencing. “Constitutional crisis” does not even begin to capture the radicalism of what is unfolding in the federal bureaucracy and of what Congress’s decision not to act may liquidate in terms of constitutional meaning.

Together, Trump and Musk are trying to rewrite the rules of the American system. They are trying to instantiate an anti-constitutional theory of executive power that would make the president supreme over all other branches of government. They are doing so in service of a plutocratic agenda of austerity and the upward redistribution of wealth. And the longer Congress stands by, the more this is fixed in place.

[Winehole23]

But as those opponents strategize their response, it is vital that see the important truth that there is no going back to the status quo ante. President Trump and Elon Musk really have altered the structure of things. They’ve taken steps that cannot be so easily reversed. If American constitutional democracy is a game, then they’ve flipped the board with the aim of using the same pieces to play a new game with their own boutique rules.

[TSA]

USAID is kaput

our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the constititution and democracy

It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

Take some time looking through this twitter feed

https://x.com/DataRepublican

And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

https://datarepublican.com/

Mind blowing scheme being run

[TSA]

Gently, softly, calmly, let’s talk about what’s happening in DC right now.

Friends, have you ever been through a ZBB process? If not, let me give you my take. So, in a corporation where expenses are out of control, you have to put the entire company through a zero based budgeting process. It is one of the most painful things that people in a company experience.

You basically have to justify every. single. expense. And you also cut a bunch, and then only add back after you’ve gone through a proper ZBB cycle.

The US government is going through a ZBB right now. And that is necessary because spending is out of control. The complexity is so vast that I expect it will take AI to decipher.

You cannot tell me that a government that accidentally wires hundreds of millions of dollars to the Taliban has its finances in order. That signals an underlying disaster. That signals bad stewardship of resources.

In fact, it is a disaster. Over the last 20 fiscal years, the US government has made ~$2.7 trillion in "improper payments," according to the US Government Accountability Office. Trillion! With a T!

That financial management disaster was not caused by Elonmusk
. And there is no painless way to clean it up.

Elon is doing what any executive would do walking into a giant mess. You ZBB and then build back.

So, I don’t believe that America is going to be on the wrong side of global right and wrong, as some are saying. I don’t believe that America is going to be permanently isolationist. I do believe that unwatched finances will get out of control in any human system, and that the GAO has been trying to ring this bell for years, and that scaled complexity requires scaled financial management.

Because the US has the largest budget in the world, it will now go through the single most complex ZBB ever undertaken in the history of the world.

Some states do ZBB, but it's never been done at the federal level. President Jimmy Carter tried, but the bureaucratic systems were too complex, and President Ronald Reagan abandoned the attempt.

So, if there is one person in the world chosen to lead this Grand Canyon of projects, we would hope for the president to choose one of the best capital allocators on the planet. Better if that human is also one who can leverage AI and technical talent to manage the massive complexity.

Anyone who has lived through a ZBB at the corporate level will tell you that it’s hell and everyone hates it. This is why I feel really bad for federal workers -- I have a lot of empathy for civil servants and people doing a great job every day for the United States. No doubt, the uncertainty is trying and stressful for many. It's an unfortunate situation.

So, that's my take. I don't want to speak beyond what I know and can observe from the other side of the country. I've worked both in the private sector and the public sector -- the cultures are different. And an Elon-Musk-style culture is going to be the most hard core of them all. No doubt, it's jarring. It's gonna be a lot.

But what I also know is that every time I have ever doubted Elon, I ended up being the one who was wrong.

https://x.com/AndreaSJames/status/1886968773682586003

[TSA]

It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

Take some time looking through this twitter feed

https://x.com/DataRepublican

And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

https://datarepublican.com/

Mind blowing scheme being run

https://x.com/amuse/status/1887127242557235630

[ChumpDumper]

Is what Elon is doing legal, TSA?

Yes or no.

[GAustex]

Life comes at you fast
Sometimes

[TSA]

Is what Elon is doing legal, TSA?

Yes or no.

I'll need you to cite the specific law you think Elon is breaking before I can answer your question.

[TSA]

USAID is kaput

our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the constititution and democracy

USAID has been completely unaccountable for decades, run by bureaucrats with agendas who believed they answered to nobody.

Here are a few more of the ridiculous projects on which they spent YOUR money:

— $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

— $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

— $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

— $1.5 million for “art for inclusion of people with disabilities”

— $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

— $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

— $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

— $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

— $25 million for Deloitte to promote “green transportation” in the country of Georgia

— $6 million for tourism in Egypt

— $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

— $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

— ~$5 million to EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs funding bat virus research at the Wuhan lab

— $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

— $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

— $1.2 million to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in Washington, D.C., build “a state-of-the-art 440 seat auditorium”

— $1.3 million to Arab and Jewish photographers

— $1.5 million to promote “LGBT advocacy” in Jamaica

— $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

— $2 million to promote “LGBT equality through entrepreneurship” in Latin America

— $500K to solve sectarian violence in Israel (just ten days before the Hamas October 7 attack)

— $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

— $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

— $5.5 million for LGBT activism in Uganda

— $6 million for advancing LGBT issues in “priority countries around the world”

— $6.3 million for men who have sex with men in South Africa

— $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion”

— USAID’s “climate strategy” outlined a $150 billion “whole-of-agency” approach to building an “equitable world with net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

For decades, USAID bureaucrats believed they were accountable to no one — but that era is over.

President Trump is STOPPING the waste, fraud, and abuse.

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1887151291895267553

[TSA]

USAID is kaput

our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the constititution and democracy

https://x.com/johnddavidson/status/1887174336865558843

[ChumpDumper]

I'll need you to cite the specific law you think Elon is breaking before I can answer your question

Dodge #1.

Well we'll get nowhere with that. How about you answer the last question I asked.

Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?

[TSA]

Did you really just ask if something was legal and not even have one law in mind that was possibly being broken? :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Did you really just ask if something was legal and not even have one law in mind that was possibly being broken? :rollinIt's just a question I was asking you.

You have no answer. Moving on.

Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?

[TSA]

It's just a question I was asking you.

You have no answer. Moving on.I am not aware of any laws Elon is breaking.

Is what Elon is doing illegal, ChumpDumper?


Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?sure

[ChumpDumper]

I am not aware of any laws Elon is breaking.

Is what Elon is doing illegal, ChumpDumper?Unsure. That's why I asked.

The fact that we are both unsure certainly say something.


sure
:lol you sure aren't as forceful as you were when you condemned an ST poster for "politicizing" the collision. Trump must be protected!

[SnakeBoy]

1887135906559140042

[TSA]

It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

Take some time looking through this twitter feed

https://x.com/DataRepublican

And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

https://datarepublican.com/

Mind blowing scheme being run

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1887220679059382369

[TSA]

https://x.com/EaglesTTT/status/1887239807841226939

[ChumpDumper]

1887135906559140042

What needs to be approved?

It was his census.

[Winehole23]

"the people want this so we don't have to follow democratic procedures" is dictatorship 101

[Winehole23]

What needs to be approved?

It was his census.Trump wanted to include only citizens in the count, maybe he can update that retroactively to match his priorities

[Winehole23]

real world impact of dispelling USAID, it's not all spooks and color-revolutions


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[Winehole23]

anecdotal, but the contempt for civil servants is more than palpable

MAGAlandia thrills to it


A federal worker sent me audio of a call that HR did today with staff about "deferred resignation" agreements offered by DOGE ... I think this is pretty well understood by now but helps confirm what many suspect

The audio goes:Employee: Lets say I accept the agreement tomorrow - you were to rescind the agreement and they were to stop paying me on Friday ... we would have no recourse available?

HR official: Yes ... as the agreement is outlined that is absolutely correcthttps://x.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1887224772028735869

[ducks]

CNN: “You rarely get 79% of the country to agree on anything — but they do, in fact, agree on the idea of opposing” MEN in WOMEN’S sports.

[Winehole23]

keeping the people in the dark about jobs, now?

I guess we'll see whether the BLS releases labor reports anymore -- I guess the personnel and data there aren't trumpy enough yet



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[ChumpDumper]

Transparency!

[TSA]

keeping the people in the dark about jobs, now?

I guess we'll see whether the BLS releases labor reports anymore -- I guess the personnel and data there aren't trumpy enough yet

Remember when you'd run in here as quick as you could to post what looked like positive job reports under Biden only to have those same job reports later revised down every single time? :lol

[Winehole23]

Remember when you'd run in here as quick as you could to post what looked like positive job reports under Biden only to have those same job reports later revised down every single time? :lolyou probably don't recall, but I also drew attention to the pattern of backward revisions

[Winehole23]

nice deflection, tho

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when you'd run in here as quick as you could to post what looked like positive job reports under Biden only to have those same job reports later revised down every single time? :lol

Which do you prefer -- revised information or no information at all?

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/p687JBNL/IMG-20250206-WA0018.jpg

Trump's America

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when you'd run in here as quick as you could to post what looked like positive job reports under Biden only to have those same job reports later revised down every single time? :lol


Which do you prefer -- revised information or no information at all?

Looks like TSA is going to be a pussy here.

[Winehole23]

judge orders a pause on Elon/Trump's deferred retirement scheme

Trump 2.0 has been a firehose of illegal bullshit


A federal judge temporarily blocked the Trump administration from moving forward with its plan to cull the federal workforce until at least next week.

Senior District Judge George O’Toole extended a deadline that was set to kick in at the end of the day Thursday so as to allow time for additional legal briefs to be submitted ahead of a hearing at 2 p.m. on Monday.

He also instructed the Trump administration to swiftly notify workers of the order freezing implementation of the “deferred resignation” program — which excuses workers from the administration’s return-to-office mandate and allows them to maintain their pay and benefits through Sept. 30.
O’Toole, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, noted that his freeze was just “table-setting” for the hearing and was not an indication of his eventual ruling.

A lawyer for the government said the administration would quickly comply with his order and alert federal workers of the development.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-temporarily-blocks-trump-s-exit-plan-for-federal-employees/ar-AA1yxOff

[SnakeBoy]

1887622776569110726

[Yonivore]

The hits keep coming...



1887622776569110726

[SnakeBoy]

https://y.yarn.co/aae16de1-cf43-4c0e-a5ea-a698d8933ab7_text.gif

[Yonivore]

judge orders a pause on Elon/Trump's deferred retirement scheme

Trump 2.0 has been a firehose of illegal bullshit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-temporarily-blocks-trump-s-exit-plan-for-federal-employees/ar-AA1yxOff

He could probably turn around and just fire them if they don't want the deferred retirement scheme.

Trump 2.0 has been extraordinary, for sure. I'm not sure anything he's done has been illegal.

[Yonivore]

judge orders a pause on Elon/Trump's deferred retirement scheme

Trump 2.0 has been a firehose of illegal bullshit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-temporarily-blocks-trump-s-exit-plan-for-federal-employees/ar-AA1yxOff
You know, after ABC and George Stephanopoulos had to cough up $15 million for calling the President a rapist, the media has been judiciously using the word 'allegedly.' Because I care, I would caution the same for you and others in this thread. It's a "firehose of 'alleged' illegal bullshit."

[SnakeBoy]

He could probably turn around and just fire them if they don't want the deferred retirement scheme.

Trump 2.0 has been extraordinary, for sure. I'm not sure anything he's done has been illegal.

Nothing he does as POTUS is illegal

He can send Seal Team 6 after them if necessary, according to the libs

[SnakeBoy]

The hits keep coming...

https://i.imgur.com/XEOSgDo.png

[Blake]

You know, after ABC and George Stephanopoulos had to cough up $15 million for calling the President a rapist, the media has been judiciously using the word 'allegedly.' Because I care, I would caution the same for you and others in this thread. It's a "firehose of 'alleged' illegal bullshit."

Yeah Trump was found liable for sexual assault, not rape. Congrats.

[Blake]

Nothing he does as POTUS is illegal

He can send Seal Team 6 after them if necessary, according to the libs

According to the Trump picked Supreme Court

[GAustex]

Yeah Trump was found liable for sexual assault, not rape. Congrats.
Bs charges in a kangaroo court

[Blake]

Bs charges in a kangaroo court

Yeah! Team Trump!

[SnakeBoy]

According to the Trump picked Supreme Court

https://i.imgflip.com/8hg3dv.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

He could probably turn around and just fire them if they don't want the deferred retirement scheme.

Trump 2.0 has been extraordinary, for sure. I'm not sure anything he's done has been illegal.

Oh you're not sure?

Did you not ask ChatGPT to tell you what to think?:lol

[Winehole23]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1QGG6wNHna-1tt91yXNkOauAJJ7snobFjfEnmxlmzhl4/htmlview?pli=1

[Winehole23]

cutting publicly funded scientific research by 60% would be radical


The National Science Foundation was established by Congress in 1950 to fund basic research that would ultimately advance national health and prosperity, and secure the national defense. Its major purpose is to evaluate proposals and distribute funding for basic scientific research. Alongside the National Institutes of Health and Department of Energy, it has been an engine of basic discovery that has led to the technological superiority of the United States government and its industries.

Some fields, including astronomy, non-health-related biology, and Antarctic research, are all almost entirely underwritten by the National Science Foundation. The primary areas of its funding can be found here (https://new.nsf.gov/about/directorates-offices).
https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/02/white-house-budget-proposal-could-shatter-the-national-science-foundation/

[Winehole23]

"deleting USAID" is cruel to people receiving food, drugs and medical care through it

it's also short sighted, communicable diseases don't respect political borders


The Times identified more than 30 frozen studies that had volunteers already in the care of researchers, including trials of:




malaria treatment in children under age 5 in Mozambique
treatment for cholera in Bangladesh
a screen-and-treat method for cervical cancer in Malawituberculosis treatment for children and teenagers in Peru and South Africa
nutritional support for children in Ethiopia
early-childhood-development interventions in Cambodia
ways to support pregnant and breastfeeding women to reduce malnutrition in Jordan
an mRNA vaccine technology for H.I.V. in South Africa


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/usaid-clinical-trials-funding-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.u04.NZSU.wdt9Xu n4Ksoi&smid=url-share

[Winehole23]

30,000 tons of food stuck in Houston port as Trump halts foreign aid (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/article/usaid-trump-houston-port-20152041.php)

[SnakeBoy]

Anonymous sauce pleads with Murica

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[Blake]

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Thursday that he wants to root out "anti-Christian bias" in the U.S., announcing that he was forming a task force led by Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate the "targeting" of Christians.

Speaking at a pair of events in Washington surrounding the the National Prayer Breakfast, Trump said the task force would be directed to "immediately halt all forms of anti-Christian targeting and discrimination within the federal government, including at the DOJ, which was absolutely terrible, the IRS, the FBI — terrible — and other agencies."...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-trump-signs-executive-orders-related-to-faith-announcement

Lol the religious majority screeching that they're being persecuted. "But muh prayer in school"

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

NIH pause hitting large universities with large hospitals


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[Winehole23]

the Trump Administration is objectively pro-cancer


The N.I.H. will cut about $4 Billion from federal research grants that support cancer, virus and heart disease research. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/us/politics/medical-research-funding-cuts-university-budgets.html

[Blake]

the Trump Administration is objectively pro-cancer

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/us/politics/medical-research-funding-cuts-university-budgets.html

Hey those PGA golf partnerships aren't cheap

[z0sa]

Cancer research, an example of extreme government waste. Thank you, President Trump!

[Winehole23]

CUTTING WASTE AND FRAUD


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[Winehole23]

“Red states have universities too,” one Trump official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press, wrote in a message.

[SnakeBoy]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Friday dismissed Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, the director of the presidential personnel office said, with the step being in line with a promise the Republican made before he took office on January 20.

[ChumpDumper]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Friday dismissed Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, the director of the presidential personnel office said, with the step being in line with a promise the Republican made before he took office on January 20.

Why was she fired, snacks?

[Thread]

Cancer research, an example of extreme government waste. Thank you, President Trump!

The war on cancer has been going on for over 60 years (1964) and we're still losing.

[Thread]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Friday dismissed Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, the director of the presidential personnel office said, with the step being in line with a promise the Republican made before he took office on January 20.

Good. I'd fire every motherfucker I could get my mitts on...and ASAP.

He's got a list...get on with it!!!

[Winehole23]

The war on cancer has been going on for over 60 years (1964) and we're still losing."we can't win so we shouldn't even play"

[Winehole23]

it's gonna hurt


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[Winehole23]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Friday dismissed Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, the director of the presidential personnel office said, with the step being in line with a promise the Republican made before he took office on January 20.why is Trump's revenge tour a national priority?

[Winehole23]

"arsonist cosplaying as a firefighter "

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[Blake]

why is Trump's revenge tour a national priority?

Lib tears is what they voted for

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

so then, summing up

after 2 1/2 weeks, Congress no longer controls spending, and court orders are optional

very dictator-ish

[Winehole23]

open eyes, people can see what's happening


"The United States is in a constitutional crisis"

Agree: 54%
Disagree: 27%
Unsure: 19%

YouGov / Feb 6, 2025 / n=1106

[z0sa]

so then, summing up

after 2 1/2 weeks, Congress no longer controls spending, and court orders are optional

very dictator-ish

Neocons aren't even conservatively democratic anymore. They're openly, brazenly neo-monarchist reactionaries who want to install a Caesar who can "fix" all of their problems.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: we're lucky Trump isn't Hitler's age when he gained power. There's no one on the right -- currently -- with the persona to make it all work. There's a time coming when there will be, and there will just as likely follow a democratic "candidate" who's just as well positioned with his billions. The little guy is, perhaps permanently now, lost in the sauce; and our friends the monarchists love it.

[z0sa]

If Plato is worth any reflection, he spells it out clearly in Republic. Generally speaking, democracy eventually becomes oligarchy, oligarchy an aristocracy, aristocracy a tyranny, tyranny and its excesses leads (eventually, usually via anarchy and rebellion) to democracy. The cycle repeats.

Already we have essentially an oligarchy. In many ways (RFK Jr's application to Harvard comes to mind) our oligarchy already has aristocratic tendencies, though they're relatively hidden from the masses. How long before simply being the spawn of such and such name is enough to assume power? And how long before one of those take ultimate power and do not heed even his fellow aristocrats? It's a generalization, but the facts fit the theory.

[Winehole23]

Neocons aren't even conservatively democratic anymore. They're openly, brazenly neo-monarchist reactionaries who want to install a Caesar who can "fix" all of their problems.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: we're lucky Trump isn't Hitler's age when he gained power. There's no one on the right -- currently -- with the persona to make it all work. There's a time coming when there will be, and there will just as likely follow a democratic "candidate" who's just as well positioned with his billions. The little guy is, perhaps permanently now, lost in the sauce; and our friends the monarchists love it.the other day my step dad said, "Vance is worse than Trump in many ways, but the best thing would be for Donald Trump to drop dead"

[Winehole23]

"Trump's lawyers" at DOJ couldn't even summon any bs to support their claim of "fraud and corruption" at USAID


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[Winehole23]

red states will be hurt too


On Friday night, the NIH announced it was cutting payments (https://x.com/NIH/status/1888004759396958263?mx=2) toward overhead costs for research institutions that receive its grants, a policy that could leave universities with major budget gaps, The Associated Press reported.

Currently, some universities receive 50% or more of the amount of a grant to put toward support staff and other needs, but that would be capped at 15%, according to AP.

The University of Alabama at Birmingham and the University of Alabama in Huntsville are examples of the state institutions that could be affected by the cuts.

UAB alone has received more than a billion dollars in NIH funding in recent years, AL.com’s John Archibald reports. UAH also receives NIH funding, university spokesman Russell Nelson said Saturday but couldn’t say how much.

Steve Ammons, president of the Birmingham Business Alliance, said he was unsure of the specifics of the cuts, “but certainly any reduction in funding would be a hit to UAB since they were in the top 30 for 2024 for NIH funding. Certainly something we need to watch and make sure we advocate for the state’s largest employer.”
https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/katie-britt-vows-to-work-with-rfk-jr-after-nih-funding-cuts-cause-concern-in-alabama.html

[Winehole23]

what's the good government rationale for illegally suspending the CFPB?


No federal agency has had a bigger target on its back in the last fifteen years than the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Pro-business conservatives are simply offended by an agency with a mission to protect ordinary people, the lowest rung on America’s totem pole, from financial scams, and they have yearned to litigate, legislate and intimidate it out of existence. All of the lawsuits have failed at erasing the CFPB’s fundamental structure; the last opinion preserving it was written by Clarence Thomas. Legislative efforts to kill the bureau never got off the ground.

Frustrated in Congress and the courts, MAGA has turned to snuffing out the CFPB by executive fiat. And even there, they haven’t gotten everything that they wanted, while their success are likely to be beaten back in the courts.

Russell Vought, the Project 2025 architect and White House budget director who took over as acting CFPB director on Friday, expanded a shutdown of the bureau’s activity in a Saturday night memo, in ways that conflict with established law. He then attempted to defund the CFPB, only to find that it was already funded for the rest of the fiscal year.
https://prospect.org/power/2025-02-09-vought-stops-cfpb-from-functioning-with-illegal-order/

[Winehole23]

As former CFPB official Julie Margetta Morgan explains (https://x.com/jmargetta/status/1888420699833880775), supervision is the lifeblood of any financial regulator, the “first line of defense against scammers, predatory banks, and tech companies stealing your financial data.” This takes hundreds of examiners who oversee financial firms out of the field, leaving the multi-trillion-dollar consumer financial markets exposed and ripe for scam artists.

It also means that small community banks are now regulated more than big banks. As part of a political compromise during the creation of the CFPB, it supervises only banks with more than $10 billion in assets. The other banking regulators handle banks under $10 billion. Since the other regulators are still active, smaller banks are the only ones being checked right now for compliance with things like the Truth in Lending Act, the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act, and more. This could threaten competition, since big banks will for the time being have lower compliance costs and a freer rein to profit from cheating customers. The playing field was just unbalanced in favor of the big banks.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Adam Levitan at Credit Slips grades Russ Vought on his first day at work


The CFPB's acting Director, Project 2025's Russell Vought notified the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Board that the CFPB would not be making its permitted annual draw on the Fed for funding this year (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/08/us/politics/cfpb-vought-staff-finance-watchdog.html). He also direct the CFPB to cease all examination and supervision activity. Both actions are illegal.Https://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2025/02/russ-vought-breaks-the-law-on-his-first-day-as-cfpb-director.html

[Winehole23]

What's more, Vought's got his numbers wrong. The CFPB does not have $711.66 billion sitting around. It doesn't even have a measly $1 billion.Instead, as of the end of FY 2024 the CFPB had unobligated balances of $203 million (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48295/2). If the head of the OMB head can't tell millions from billions, this country is in deep trouble. But perhaps it's easy to confuse millions with billions when you are working for a fake billionaire.... (Vought subsequently corrected his tweet... (https://x.com/russvought/status/1888423503537360986?mx=2))

[Winehole23]

CFPB sues Vaught


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[ChumpDumper]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump on Friday dismissed Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, the director of the presidential personnel office said, with the step being in line with a promise the Republican made before he took office on January 20.

1888671717624623166

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1888671717624623166

:lol what a fucking moron Trump is

[Winehole23]

https://files.taxfoundation.org/20170113143138/FedAidtoStates.png

[Thread]

the other day my step dad said, "Vance is worse than Trump in many ways, but the best thing would be for Donald Trump to drop dead"

...that's the only way to stop him.

[Thread]

1888671717624623166

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1888671717624623166

:lol what a fucking moron Trump is

Smart enough to make President not once, but, twice.

And he's shit canning one motherfucker after anothern.

"How's that for wet work, huh?"

[Winehole23]

...that's the only way to stop him.Trump might continue to lose his mind in public to a point where it would no longer be tenable to prop him up and tell him what to say

[Thread]

Trump might continue to lose his mind in public to a point where it would no longer be tenable to prop him up and tell him what to say

He's as sharp as a tack, son.

Each day he'll continue to blast hair all over them walls.

& you know he has a list, a shit list.

4 years, Winester.

Best stand down AGAIN, son.

[GAustex]

They ain’t got nothing except taking to the streets and shopping judges that are going get steam rolled
And wishing he drop

[Thread]

They ain’t got nothing except taking to the streets and shopping judges that are going get steam rolled
And wishing he drop

Yep, that's it & that's all.

[ChumpDumper]

They ain’t got nothing except taking to the streets and shopping judges that are going get steam rolled
And wishing he dropAre you gonna drag a black man behind your truck now?

[Winehole23]

They ain’t got nothing except taking to the streets and shopping judges that are going get steam rolled
And wishing he dropalso, posting through it here

[Blake]

https://files.taxfoundation.org/20170113143138/FedAidtoStates.png

Lol SECEDE Texas right in the middle of the pack with our hand out

[Winehole23]

Ignoring adverse court orders is autocracy 101



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[Winehole23]

Big institutions deliver big benefits, particularly in medical research

Trumplandia wants to wreck those institutions because they have big feelings about "DEI people"


“The government’s support of facilities and administrative costs allows medical research to happen,” said the leadership of the Association of American Medical Colleges, which represents all the medical schools in the country, in a statement (https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/aamc-statement-drastic-cuts-nih-funded-research). The cut, they said, means “Americans will have to wait longer for cures and our country will cede scientific breakthroughs to foreign competitors. These are real consequences – slower scientific progress, longer waits for cures, fewer jobs.”

This move, though shocking, was telegraphed ahead of time like most of the gleeful teardown taking place these last three weeks. “Congress should cap the indirect cost rate paid to universities so that it does not exceed the lowest rate a university accepts from a private organization to fund research efforts,” reads one section of Project 2025 (https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf). Its existence in that document should help the media covering the move uncover the purpose here, but alas — places like the New York Times insist (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/us/politics/medical-research-funding-cuts-university-budgets.html) on letting the arsonists describe the point of the fire, saying the policy change is “aimed at saving $4 billion.”

No it isn’t. Not really; these people aren’t interested in saving taxpayer money, they’re interested in making the government incapable of functioning, and in this case undercut universities in general, perhaps with a soupçon of gleeful punishment for supposedly “elite” institutions. Per Project 2025: “This market-based reform would help reduce federal taxpayer subsidization of leftist agendas.” Leftist agendas like, say, curing cancer, or Alzheimers, or Parkinson’s, or whatever the next pandemic virus is.
https://www.splinter.com/destructive-banality-nih-indirect-costs-move-sounds-boring-could-kill-you

[Winehole23]

DOGE is wasteful and destructive

DOGE is vandalizing the US government

It's all illegal


From independent @USAID sources (https://bsky.app/profile/agawande.bsky.social/post/3lhtdubyjv22j), >800 contracts and awards are being terminated en masse – with the procurement team subject to hourly checks on speed of executing terminations. The pace has exceeded the ability to confirm whether lifesaving assistance or any Congressional mandate is affected.


Inside, it's DOGE trying to wipe out foreign aid entirely vs Trump people trying to wipe out USAID and migrate activities to the State Dept. Neither doing it in ways that would avert massive loss of life and waste of taxpayer dollars. And all of it is unlawful.

[Winehole23]

chainsaw cuts on a healthy economy will cause considerable social pain

[Winehole23]

“The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive & judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elected, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” - James Madison

[Winehole23]

Trump's promises are worthless, he's screwing the people he said he would spare


Farmers report missing millions of dollars of funding they were promised by the U.S. Agriculture Department, despite promises from Trump that his federal funding freeze would not apply to projects directly benefiting individuals. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/10/farmers-agriculture-funding-frozen/

[Winehole23]

"I've been told to hate something I know nothing about" could be a MAGA slogan


Reporter: Why do you want to be chairman of Kennedy Center board?

Trump: Some of the shows were terrible. They were a disgrace.

Reporter: Have you seen any shows there?

Trump: No, I didn’t go.

[Winehole23]

will Trump go to war with states that do not comply?


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:inwzoq34u52clnzwfmmv4j3b/bafkreiakup4ddfslz4reqf4ispjrpyepwpjyw3kv6p3vn7usy hhm6qf5bi@jpeghttps://www.ag.state.mn.us/Office/Opinions/3a-20250206.pdf

[Winehole23]

don't we have laws that forbid the federal government from commandeering state and local authorities?

Jade Helm tinhats, where are you now?

[Blake]

don't we have laws that forbid the federal government from commandeering state and local authorities?

Jade Helm tinhats, where are you now?

States rights!!!

(Unless Trump)

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

DOGE is wasteful and destructive

DOGE is vandalizing the US government

It's all illegal

Department of Government exploitation

[Blake]

"CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A third federal judge on Monday blocked President Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship for the children of people who are in the U.S. illegally.

The ruling from U.S. District Judge Joseph N. Laplante in New Hampshire comes after two similar rulings by judges in Seattle and Maryland last week..."

https://apnews.com/article/trump-birthright-citizenship-order-lawsuit-edc182abc957868840f28c4bfb5326b6

[Thread]

"CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A third federal judge on Monday blocked President Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship for the children of people who are in the U.S. illegally.

The ruling from U.S. District Judge Joseph N. Laplante in New Hampshire comes after two similar rulings by judges in Seattle and Maryland last week..."

https://apnews.com/article/trump-birthright-citizenship-order-lawsuit-edc182abc957868840f28c4bfb5326b6

Let the court system work.

Keep the fires banked.

Give them nothing...take from them everything.

If they move, fire 'em.

"Don't leave Horry, Chris. Not for a second. Please, Chris."
tee, hee.

[Yonivore]

CBS conducted a poll...

Seems America is on board with Trump's agenda.

CBS News poll — Trump has positive approval amid "energetic" opening weeks; seen as doing what he promised (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-approval-opinion-poll-2025-2-9/)

[Blake]

CBS conducted a poll...

Seems America is on board with Trump's agenda.

CBS News poll — Trump has positive approval amid "energetic" opening weeks; seen as doing what he promised (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-approval-opinion-poll-2025-2-9/)

Just admit already that you don't really care about policy and that it's all just team sports for you

[Thread]

Just admit already that you don't really care about policy and that it's all just team sports for you

Duly admitted. I want your side face down>>>in the dirt. No quarter asked, Blake. Nary given.

[Blake]

"..President Donald Trump's waded into the contentious debate over paper versus plastic straws with an executive order Monday favoring the plastic variety.

The president ordered federal agency and department heads to stop buying paper straws and make sure they aren't offered in their buildings. Agencies also must work to eliminate policies that "disfavor plastic straws" and Trump is tasking the head of his Domestic Policy Council with creating a "national strategy to end the use of paper straws."......

......"I don't think that plastic is going to affect a shark very much as they're eating as they're munching their way through the ocean," he said.

During his 2020 reelection bid, the Trump campaign sold Trump-branded plastic straws because "liberal paper straws don’t work,” the campaign's online store said at the time....."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/10/trump-plastic-straw-paper-executive-order/78387817007/

This old geezer doesn't even use a straw. He uses two hands like a 5 year old.

[Thread]

"..President Donald Trump's waded into the contentious debate over paper versus plastic straws with an executive order Monday favoring the plastic variety.

The president ordered federal agency and department heads to stop buying paper straws and make sure they aren't offered in their buildings. Agencies also must work to eliminate policies that "disfavor plastic straws" and Trump is tasking the head of his Domestic Policy Council with creating a "national strategy to end the use of paper straws."......

......"I don't think that plastic is going to affect a shark very much as they're eating as they're munching their way through the ocean," he said.

During his 2020 reelection bid, the Trump campaign sold Trump-branded plastic straws because "liberal paper straws don’t work,” the campaign's online store said at the time....."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/10/trump-plastic-straw-paper-executive-order/78387817007/

Big plastic must have sent a nice donation. This old geezer doesn't even use a straw. He uses two hands like a 5 year old.

He's owned ya since '15. 10 years he's run roughshod over ya's.

He's a hero, Blake. A genuine American hero.

God did that.

God

[Winehole23]

utterly unsurprising that Trump is pro-bribery

ttps://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/pausing-foreign-corrupt-practices-act-enforcement-to-further-american-economic-and-national-security/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Texas v Becerra

are y'all really down with removing accommodations/protections for disabled people?

accessibility is the -A in DEIA

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[Winehole23]

fired ethics watchdog Hampdon Dellinger gets his post back -- temporarily -- and his day in court


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[Thread]

fired ethics watchdog Hampdon Dellinger gets his post back -- temporarily -- and his day in court


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I'd test it if I were that old man. He'd stay fired and we would see.

[Winehole23]

“We are in the midst of a constitutional crisis right now. There have been so many unconstitutional and illegal actions in the first 18 days of the Trump presidency. We never have seen anything like this.”—Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of University of California, Berkeley law school.

[Thread]

^^^See ya in the street, old friend.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Thread]

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Winester; runnin' just as fast as he can.

[Winehole23]

"I'm going to do a partisan purge of the US armed forces"


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[Winehole23]

four deadly aviation incidents in the last two weeks, and somehow this is a priority


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[Yonivore]

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See, if you plan, like I do, you won't be getting a refund, nor will you owe [more than a few bucks, either way].

[Yonivore]

four deadly aviation incidents in the last two weeks, and somehow this is a priority


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Amazingly, a properly functioning executive can manage many things at once, Winehole.

[Blake]

Amazingly, a properly functioning executive can manage many things at once, Winehole.

If only we had one

[Blake]

See, if you plan, like I do, you won't be getting a refund, nor will you owe [more than a few bucks, either way].

Not everyone is an incel like you filing a simple 1040EZ

[ChumpDumper]

See, if you plan, like I do, you won't be getting a refund, nor will you owe [more than a few bucks, either way].That's not the point, is it?

[ChumpDumper]

Amazingly, a properly functioning executive can manage many things at once, Winehole.Every plane crash from now on is completely the responsibility of Trump and President Musk.

[SnakeBoy]

1889340328924078098]

[ChumpDumper]

1889340328924078098]

Illegally according to whom?

[Thread]

1889340328924078098]

Outstanding.

[Winehole23]

telling subordinates to defy court orders is quite the flex


A senior official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency instructed subordinates to freeze funding for a wide array of grant programs Monday, just hours after a federal judge ordered the Trump administration — for the second time — to stop such pauses.

In an email with the subject line “URGENT: Holds on awards,” Stacey Street, the director of the agency’s Office of Grant Administration, told her team to freeze funding for grant programs going back several years, including those focused on emergency preparedness, homeland security, firefighting, protecting churches from terrorism and tribal security.

"For all awards FY23 and prior: put financial holds on all of your awards — all open awards, all years (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)," Street wrote, using the shorthand "FY" for fiscal year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fema-official-ignores-judge-order-freeze-grant-funding-rcna191674

[Yonivore]

telling subordinates to defy court orders is quite the flex

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fema-official-ignores-judge-order-freeze-grant-funding-rcna191674
Telling subordinates to defy unconstitutional court order is quite the flex.

There, fixed it for you.

[ChumpDumper]

Telling subordinates to defy unconstitutional court order is quite the flex.

There, fixed it for you.How is it unconstitutional?

Show me a non-tweet argument pls.

My pre-emptive counter is simply this: It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.

[Winehole23]

Telling subordinates to defy unconstitutional court order is quite the flex.

There, fixed it for you.that's not the way the law works.

if the judicial order was faulty, US appeals courts are open, accessible and normally functioning.

[ChumpDumper]

Just appeal the ruling. Fast track that shit to Trump's SCOTUS if you have to. If the lower court is wrong, they'll say so.

[Winehole23]

Heads of US executive agencies are not free to break the law if they disagree with it

[Yonivore]

How is it unconstitutional?

Show me a non-tweet argument pls.

My pre-emptive counter is simply this: It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.
I'm going to leave that up to the Superior Courts - up to and including the U. S. Supreme Court. If they find the President's actions violated the law, I'm sure there'll be screams for him impeachment. As for now, I'm guessing that idiot judge has no recourse but to sit back and watch.

I was trying to recall an old adage that would be applicable here and found these two in Google. The last being the one I was trying to think of:

Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist No. 78, described the judiciary as the "least dangerous" branch because it has "neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment."

Andrew Jackson, who reportedly responded to a Supreme Court decision he opposed (Worcester v. Georgia, 1832) by allegedly saying:

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

The sentiment has been echoed in various forms throughout history, reinforcing the idea that judicial power depends on compliance from the other branches of government. The only recourse the judge has is to wait until the matter is escalated through superior courts.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm going to leave that up to the Superior Courts:lol That's just what I said to do, genius.

But if you're doing that, you're just shitting on your idea of the imperial presidency you're trying to push.

Pick a lane.

[Yonivore]

:lol That's just what I said to do, genius.
Well, that's what I said to do way earlier in this thread, genius. Why are you still harping on it?

All of this shit is going to be settled in the courts. Probably at the U.S.S.C. level.

I was simply countering your argument the President's actions were somehow illegal or unconstitutional.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, that's what I said to do way earlier in this thread, genius. Why are you still harping on it?

All of this shit is going to be settled in the courts. Probably at the U.S.S.C. level.

I was simply countering your argument the President's actions were somehow illegal or unconstitutional.

Do you think Trump is beholden to obey the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, that's what I said to do way earlier in this thread, genius. Why are you still harping on it?

All of this shit is going to be settled in the courts. Probably at the U.S.S.C. level.

I was simply countering your argument the President's actions were somehow illegal or unconstitutional.
They certainly could be. You can't claim it's impossible just because you worship the guy.

[Yonivore]

Do you think Trump is beholden to obey the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States?
I think the President is bound by the rulings of the court; just as President Biden was bound by the ruling of the court in his Student Loan Forgiveness Program. If like Biden, President Trump is able to reframe his actions to be consistent with the law, such as what Biden did, I woul


Yes or no.
Fuck you, Elizabeth Warren.

[Yonivore]

They certainly could be. You can't claim it's impossible just because you worship the guy.
I never said it's impossible, I'm merely stating the argument it could be consistent with law and the constitution. The Supreme Court will ultimately decide.

[ChumpDumper]

I thinkAll you had to say was yes, you believe Trump is beholden to obey the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Just like Biden was.

So all your posturing about Andrew Jackson and Hamilton was just bullshit and you never should have brought them up.

[Winehole23]

I'm going to leave that up to the Superior Courts - up to and including the U. S. Supreme Court. If they find the President's actions violated the law, I'm sure there'll be screams for him impeachment. As for now, I'm guessing that idiot judge has no recourse but to sit back and watch.

I was trying to recall an old adage that would be applicable here and found these two in Google. The last being the one I was trying to think of:

Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist No. 78, described the judiciary as the "least dangerous" branch because it has "neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment."

Andrew Jackson, who reportedly responded to a Supreme Court decision he opposed (Worcester v. Georgia, 1832) by allegedly saying:

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

The sentiment has been echoed in various forms throughout history, reinforcing the idea that judicial power depends on compliance from the other branches of government. The only recourse the judge has is to wait until the matter is escalated through superior courts.irl Andrew Jackson later regretted his example, he threatened to invade South Carolina over nullification

[Winehole23]

that's not the way the law works.

if the judicial order was faulty, US appeals courts are open, accessible and normally functioning.I think Yoni glossed over this

[Yonivore]

I think Yoni glossed over this
I believe the appeals are, or are being, filed. Why stop a train because a single Lefty judge says so.

[ChumpDumper]

I believe the appeals are, or are being, filed. Why stop a train because a single Lefty judge says so.

Because that's how the judicial system works.

[Blake]

I believe the appeals are, or are being, filed. Why stop a train because a single Lefty judge says so.

You really don't care about checks and balances any more now that Trump is president. None of you Trump tards do.

[ChumpDumper]

Yoni is at once trying to brandish and ignore:

The Impoundment Control Act of 1974

The Fourteenth Amendment

Marbury v. Madison

The Constitution of the United States of America

English common law

The English language

Either these things mean something or they don't.

[Yonivore]

Because that's how the judicial system works.
Apparently not.

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently not.It did when you wanted it to, didn't it?

What changed?

You're not terribly principled, are you?

You were raging on about the Impoundment Control Act until you realized Trump is not following that law at all.

But you're satisfied because you're happy.

[ChumpDumper]

I imagine you have no comment on the Eric Adams debacle either.

Must be satisfying.

[Winehole23]

just spitballing, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump is using his newly-discovered privilege to nullify appropiated funds and withhold federal transfer payments to coerce institutions and US states to back him and his policies -- if they don't, they don't get the goodies.

if it persists, this is an authoritarian putsch, a total and sinister overthrow of the US constitutional order

[Spurs Homer]

just spitballing, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump is using his newly-discovered privilege to nullify appropiated funds and withhold federal transfer payments to coerce institutions and US states to back him and his policies -- if they don't, they don't get the goodies.

if it persists, this is an authoritarian putsch, a total and sinister overthrow of the US constitutional order

Now, why on earth would you suspect a convicted felon convicted of fraud and rape...a liar with over 50,000 documented lies in the past few years...
among his other attributes - to continue committing crimes after never being held accountable for his felonious fraud?

Just cant understand why...

[ChumpDumper]

just spitballing, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump is using his newly-discovered privilege to nullify appropiated funds and withhold federal transfer payments to coerce institutions and US states to back him and his policies -- if they don't, they don't get the goodies.

if it persists, this is an authoritarian putsch, a total and sinister overthrow of the US constitutional order

You can bet the executive government of NYC is going to be more agreeable to the Trump administrations wishes for the time being.

[Yonivore]

And, there you have it. President Trump says he'll abide by court orders but, appeal the decisions.

Trump: "I always abide by the courts, but then I'll have to appeal it." (https://reason.com/volokh/2025/02/11/trump-i-always-abide-by-the-courts-but-then-ill-have-to-appeal-it/)

[ChumpDumper]

And, there you have it. President Trump says he'll abide by court orders but, appeal the decisions.

Trump: "I always abide by the courts, but then I'll have to appeal it." (https://reason.com/volokh/2025/02/11/trump-i-always-abide-by-the-courts-but-then-ill-have-to-appeal-it/):lmao All the backflips you and TSA did.

[Winehole23]

And, there you have it. President Trump says he'll abide by court orders but, appeal the decisions.

Trump: "I always abide by the courts, but then I'll have to appeal it." (https://reason.com/volokh/2025/02/11/trump-i-always-abide-by-the-courts-but-then-ill-have-to-appeal-it/)we'll see if the USG pays its bills or not

right now under Trump, it seems there's some suspense about that

[ChumpDumper]

we'll see if the USG pays its bills or not

right now under Trump, it seems there's some suspense about that

True. If he abided by the courts, he would've done so a week ago.

[Winehole23]

the scammiest guy in the world is running this country like one of his scammy companies

[ChumpDumper]

the scammiest guy in the world is running this country like one of his scammy companies

Hey, we rescinded the memo. That's what you wanted, right?

[Blake]

And, there you have it. President Trump says he'll abide by court orders but, appeal the decisions.

Trump: "I always abide by the courts, but then I'll have to appeal it." (https://reason.com/volokh/2025/02/11/trump-i-always-abide-by-the-courts-but-then-ill-have-to-appeal-it/)

Lol "I always abide by the courts"

[Winehole23]

This is something more than throat clearing, the illegal firings are gonna be a hassle for Trumplandia

Totally unforced error here, all Trumplandia had to do was go at a walking pace, install sympathetic agency heads, and provide two weeks notice for any changes. But no, they had to move fast and break things...

gov.uscourts.dcd.277069.11.0_1.pdf (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277069/gov.uscourts.dcd.277069.11.0_1.pdf)

[Winehole23]

Federal judges orders HHS, CDC, and FDA to restore “by no later than 11:59 pm” today their websites and datasets to pre-January 30th status.

[Winehole23]

even if Trumplandia tries to walk this all the way back, the threat has already been demonstrated: Trump can nullify appropriations and turn off the money spigot to the states.

[Winehole23]

USAID is humpty-dumpty, wonder which executive agency is next on the presidential chopping block

[Winehole23]

“By removing long relied upon medical resources without explanation, it is likely that the each agency failed to ‘examine the relevant data and articulate a satisfactory explanation for its action including a rational connection between the facts found and the choice made,’” he wrote in his opinion (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277069/gov.uscourts.dcd.277069.12.0_1.pdf). “Hand in hand with the lack of explanation, it is also likely that the agencies ‘failed to consider’ the ‘important’ issue of the substantial reliance by medical professionals on the removed webpages.“

[Winehole23]

A federal appeals court on Tuesday rejected the Trump administration's bid to pause a lower court's order that temporarily halted a massive freeze (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-finds-trump-administration-violated-court-order-halting-funding-rcna191528) in federal funding.

A judge in Rhode Island on Monday blocked the funding freeze (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-effort-withhold-federal-funding-will-trigger-imminent-legal-act-rcna189583) and ordered the government to “immediately restore frozen funding.”

In its ruling Tuesday, a three-judge panel for the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals wrote (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca1.52482/gov.uscourts.ca1.52482.00108246952.0_1.pdf) that the "defendants do not cite any authority in support of their administrative stay request or identify any harm related to a specific funding action or actions that they will face without their requested administrative stay."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/appeals-court-rejects-trump-administration-bid-reinstate-funding-freez-rcna191671

[ChumpDumper]

How can these morons reform government if the STILL don't know what the government actually does?

[Winehole23]

they have no notion of reforming it, they're wrecking it on purpose

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/71/97/687197069028f145a8a83bb3781771c5.jpg

[Winehole23]

"fire, aim, ready"


Russ Vought is an own-the-libs kind of guy, an ideological warrior who delights in watching the world burn. Shutting down the CFPB (https://prospect.org/power/2025-02-09-vought-stops-cfpb-from-functioning-with-illegal-order/) is his idea of paradise; now the rugged capitalists can get back to work making America great again without interference from meddling bureaucrats determined to punish success.

Then he heard about the APOR tables.

APOR stands for the “average prime offer rate,” and it’s a little tool that keeps the mortgage market running. It involves public servants, every week, going in and calculating it. Those staffers work at the CFPB, and if they’re locked out, you have no APOR tables. And over time, if you have no APOR tables, you have no mortgage market, or at least an uncertain and economically damaging mess.

In the face of this, tough guy Vought blinked, and in so doing revealed why even the most John Galt-ian banker needs the government (https://prospect.org/economy/2025-02-10-even-bankers-dont-want-to-delete-cfpb/) every now and again.



Georgetown Law professor Adam Levitin explained the stakes (https://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2025/02/unintended-consequences-of-standing-down-the-cfpb.html) in a post late Monday night. Lenders would either not make loans at risk of coming in above APOR, or would raise rates on loans below APOR to compensate, costing borrowers potentially tens of thousands of dollars in financing. Home values could get skewed, and credit access could be cut for many borrowers. “In other words, shutting down the CFPB does not reduce regulation. It actually increases it because it results in the [APOR tables] being miscalibrated,” Levitin wrote.https://prospect.org/economy/2025-02-11-vought-restores-cfpb-procedure-that-sustains-mortgage-markets/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

NIH rate change hit with a TRO

could easily have been avoided by giving a few weeks notice and having a rationale for the change

another own goal here, handwaving seldom works in courtrooms


A federal judge temporarily blocked the Trump administration's move to drastically lower some of the funding that universities and research institutions receive from medical and scientific grants.


U.S. District Judge Angel Kelley -- nominated to the bench by President Joe Biden -- issued a temporary restraining order that blocks the National Institute of Health from taking any steps to implement or enforce their rate change notice.


Judge Kelley ordered the NIH to issue a status report within 24 hours – then at bi-weekly intervals – to confirm “the regular disbursement and obligation of federal financial assistance funds.”
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/billions-scientific-research-dollars-set-cut-federal-government/story?id=118661569

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

"centralize ideological control over the federal agencies" and "wipe out left wing ideologies"

in other words, a purge

[SnakeBoy]

"centralize ideological control over the federal agencies" and "wipe out left wing ideologies"

in other words, a purge

:tu

[DarrinS]

"centralize ideological control over the federal agencies" and "wipe out left wing ideologies"

in other words, a purge

Yeah, get that shit out. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

:tu


Yeah, get that shit out. :tu

So the next Democrat can do the same to your ideology?

[Winehole23]

1356315137976672259

[SnakeBoy]

So the next Democrat can do the same to your ideology?

What would they purge?

[ChumpDumper]

What would they purge?Your toxic ideology and anyone who espouses it.:tu

[Winehole23]

Red states generally are more dependent on federal transfers, El0n/Trump are courting fiasco


Colorado's governor and both of the state's U.S. senators asked the director of the federal budget office Monday to unlock what they said was more than $570 million in federal funds that remained inaccessible to state groups after a federal judge ordered the Trump administration to lift a sweeping funding freeze.

In a letter (https://www.hickenlooper.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Colorado-Funding-Freeze-letter_OMB.pdf), Gov. Jared Polis, and U.S. Sens. Michael Bennet and John Hickenlooper asked Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought to ensure that the funds are unfrozen, citing a federal court ruling that put a pause on the administration's freeze.

"The consequences of this continued uncertainty are severe and could have a devastating effect on the programs and people this funding supports," the Democrats wrote. "Companies are considering staff furloughs. Employers in rural communities are rescinding job offers. Long-standing Colorado businesses, some with over 40 years of operation, now struggle to pay contractors working on facility expansions."
https://www.coloradopolitics.com/news/government/federal-funding-freeze-colorado/article_adad603b-61a8-5cd7-97a1-29ee5de45258.html

[Blake]

"centralize ideological control over the federal agencies" and "wipe out left wing ideologies"

in other words, a purge


:tu


Yeah, get that shit out. :tu

You guys don't even know what you want to get rid of.

[Winehole23]

Red states generally are more dependent on federal transfers, El0n/Trump are courting fiasco

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/news/government/federal-funding-freeze-colorado/article_adad603b-61a8-5cd7-97a1-29ee5de45258.htmlOopsie, farm belt Republicans just figured out El0n's cuts are hitting their constituents

*clean up*


Republicans Try to Save USAID Food Program
New GOP bill proposes moving oversight of the $1.8 billion program to the Agriculture Departmenthttps://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/republicans-try-to-save-usaid-food-program-86751fc4

[Thread]

Your toxic ideology and anyone who espouses it.:tu

That's why we can't ever let ya's get the guns.

[ChumpDumper]

Oopsie, farm belt Republicans just figured out El0n's cuts are hitting their constituents

*clean up*

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/republicans-try-to-save-usaid-food-program-86751fc4

Impossible!

Elon and his racist kid squad know exactly what they're doing.

[Thread]

Impossible!

Elon and his racist kid squad know exactly what they're doing.

...AND are doing it!!!

[Winehole23]

Rep. Tom Cole (OK), the Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, recently pretended he didn't know if appropriations were laws or not. Said he'd need to ask a constitutional lawyer.

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[Winehole23]

Appropriations Clause Article I, Section 9, Clause 7
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.


https://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/67/appropriations-clause

[Winehole23]

A member of the Chickasaw Nation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickasaw_Nation), Cole is one of four Native Americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States) in Congress who are enrolled tribal members. The others are fellow Oklahoma Republicans Markwayne Mullin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markwayne_Mullin) (Cherokee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee)) and Josh Brecheen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Brecheen) (Choctaw (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Nation_of_Oklahoma)), and Democrat Sharice Davids (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharice_Davids) of Kansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas) (Ho‑Chunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho-Chunk_Nation_of_Wisconsin)). In 2022, Cole became the longest-serving Native American in the history of Congress.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cole#cite_note-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cole#cite_note-amp.oklahoman.com-2)

[Winehole23]

Cole graduated from Grinnell College (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grinnell_College) in 1971 with a B.A. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) in history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History). His postgraduate degrees include an M.A. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Arts) from Yale University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University) (1974) and a Ph.D. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy) from the University of Oklahoma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oklahoma) (1984), both in British history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_history). Cole's Ph.D. thesis was Life and Labor in the Isle of Dogs: The Origins and Evolution of an East London Working-Class Community, 1800–1980 (http://www.geoffrobinson.info/?p=147). He did research abroad as a Thomas J. Watson Fellow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Watson_Fellow) and was a Fulbright Fellow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulbright_Fellow) (1977–78) at the University of London (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_London). He served as an assistant professor in history and politics in college before entering politics and winning political office.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cole

[DarrinS]

Dems don't have anything to offer the American people

[ChumpDumper]

Dems don't have anything to offer the American people

What do you have to offer the American people?

[Winehole23]

YOU'RE FIRED

OUR BAD, YOU'RE NOT REALLY FIRED

NO SERIOUSLY, YOU'RE FIRED



President Donald Trump’s Small Business Administration (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/0249229D:US) told probationary staff members it had mistakenly sent them termination notices, and then informed some of them the next day that they were fired after all.

“Probationary employees across the Small Business Administration may have received an unsigned notice of employment termination,” according to an email sent to some SBA staff on Monday that was viewed by Bloomberg News.

“Please be advised that this draft letter (see attached) was sent in error – and as such, it is not currently in effect. If you are in receipt of the initial notice, your employment has not been terminated as was erroneously indicated in the initial notice,” the email continued.

On Tuesday, some of those probationary staff — employees who are generally within their first year on the job — received a new message telling them they actually were, in fact, dismissed, according to a fired worker who spoke on condition of anonymity because of concerns about being targeted.

“During this probationary or trial period, it has been determined that your continued employment does not promote the efficiency of the service because you have failed to demonstrate fitness for continued federal employment,” according to the email sent Tuesday.

The language of the termination notice matched the form letter that the agency had said was previously erroneously sent to staff.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-12/trump-sba-tells-staff-it-didn-t-mean-to-fire-them-then-fires-them-the-next-day

[Thread]

What do you have to offer the American people?

...White vengeance.

[Thread]

YOU'RE FIRED

OUR BAD, YOU'RE NOT REALLY FIRED

NO SERIOUSLY, YOU'RE FIRED


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-12/trump-sba-tells-staff-it-didn-t-mean-to-fire-them-then-fires-them-the-next-day

Buh, bye.

[Winehole23]

...White vengeance.
Against who?

[Thread]

Against who?The usurpers.

[Winehole23]

The usurpers.still trying to cope with the L in 2020

[Winehole23]

farcical, really


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[Winehole23]

backpedaling detected


https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02f5c70 4-648a-4621-93b0-da07a5d2785a_838x996.png

https://popular.info/p/breaking-nih-admits-funding-freeze

[Winehole23]

real life consequences

what justifies treating government workers like this?


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[Thread]

real life consequences

what justifies treating government workers like this?


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- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[Thread]

still trying to cope with the L in 2020

...that's what the old man is doing right now (((cope thru vengeance))) and will continue to do till Christ sets him free.

Me too.

[Winehole23]

Dems don't have anything to offer the American peoplethanks by the way for all the chaos and corruption, y'all are great at wrecking basic governance and not much else

[Yonivore]

One down, about 4 dozen to go...

Judge allows federal worker "buyout" plan to proceed, and Trump administration announces it's closed (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-allows-trumps-deferred-resignations-plan-federal-workers-to-proceed/)

Blame the judge if you missed your opportunity to take advantage of the buyout.


OPM spokesperson McLaurine Pinover said in a statement Wednesday that the office was "pleased" with the court's decision and that the deferred resignation program was closed as of 7 p.m. Wednesday.

[Yonivore]

thanks by the way for all the chaos and corruption, y'all are great at wrecking basic governance and not much else
I've been totally unaffected by any of the President's executive actions, thus far. What have you lost, Winehole?

[Winehole23]

I've been totally unaffected by any of the President's executive actions, thus far. What have you lost, Winehole?I was alluding to the generational trend, it remains to be seen how far Trump will extend his power.

[DarrinS]

I was alluding to the generational trend, it remains to be seen how far Trump will extend his power.

Last dude was powerLESS, so the contrast is shocking.

[Yonivore]

I was alluding to the generational trend, it remains to be seen how far Trump will extend his power.
The end of Article II.

[Winehole23]

:sleep

[Winehole23]

The end of Article II.if the executive controls the money spigot it's game over for Article I powers, the US Congress would become an advisory body as to spending

[Winehole23]

more backpedaling detected

"at this time do not initiate"


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[Yonivore]

more backpedaling detected

"at this time do not initiate"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845.37.1.pdf
Is it back pedaling or pursuant to a court order?

[Winehole23]

Is it back pedaling or pursuant to a court order?not so quick to claim Trump can do whatever he wants, are you now

[DarrinS]

more backpedaling detected

"at this time do not initiate"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845.37.1.pdf

I mean, if they're already being biologically fucked up, why stop?

[Winehole23]

fired IG Hampton Dellinger gets his day in court


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:hpdaz5zbsrcozaxkjmttpsxn/bafkreigqs6qxiddebceqslfudj7myasn5b4jxqlfzi3wjryhc q5hkjmhci@jpeghttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-removal-of-whistleblower-agency-head-blocked-by-judge

[Winehole23]

I mean, if they're already being biologically fucked up, why stop?not sure what you're trying to describe, can you be more specific?

[Yonivore]

not so quick to claim Trump can do whatever he wants, are you now
I think I was more in the camp of, I wish he would ignore the courts. It seems he is getting sound advice from someone other than me. Smart move.

Like I've already said, I think the Trump camp has been planning this for months before the inauguration. I would find it hard to believe they didn't anticipate the lawfare.

[Yonivore]

fired IG Hampton Dellinger gets his day in court

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-removal-of-whistleblower-agency-head-blocked-by-judge
I guess we'll see if he prevails. Neither of the IGs fired under Biden or Obama were reinstated, even though one did file suit, like this guy.

[Winehole23]

I think I was more in the camp of, I wish he would ignore the courts. It seems he is getting sound advice from someone other than me. Smart move.

Like I've already said, I think the Trump camp has been planning this for months before the inauguration. I would find it hard to believe they didn't anticipate the lawfare.They

are

incompetent.


Y'all could've gotten almost everything you want the hard way, giving two weeks notice before policy changes and adhering to the law as to employee termination, then passing Trump's policies through Congress as laws.

[Winehole23]

growing up in San Antonio "purge" was a bad word -- something that happens in criminal and communist regimes

not so much anymore, our co-presidents need political unity for their policies to be effective

[Yonivore]

They

are

incompetent.


Y'all could've gotten almost everything you want the hard way, giving two weeks notice before policy changes and adhering to the law as to employee termination, then passing Trump's policies through Congress as laws.
Considering how widespread the grift may be, I think the element of surprise was the best approach.

Criminals can hid a lot of evidence in 2 weeks.

Oh, and they're working on legislation to enshrine his policies into law so no nitwit Democrat (or Republican) can come back later and undo it.

[Yonivore]

growing up in San Antonio "purge" was a bad word -- something that happens in criminal and communist regimes

not so much anymore, our co-presidents need political unity for their policies to be effective
I think it's more ideological unity. If you're not on board with the agenda, you're not wanted in the administration.

Political unity? Have you noticed the number of prominent Democrats that have left that party and crossed over to help this administration? Two former Democratic Presidential candidates are on his Cabinet for Pete's sake. There are more coming over or considering coming over, all the time.

Face it, Democrats pooped in their Post Toasties with their crazy COVID nonsense and then, they shot themselves in the foot by hiding the decline of the sitting President of the United States and, when it became apparent he was non compos mentis, coronating Kamala Harris, who couldn't even draw a vote in the primary.

You should get out more. Trump is very popular. He was popular on November 5th and his numbers just keep going up now that he is doing exactly what he promised he'd do.

That he's negotiating peace in two theaters of war, gaining the release of American hostages, getting countries like Colombia, Venezuela, and Mexico to take their criminals back, while at the same time -- ferreting out corruption on our federal government -- is exactly what we signed up for. And, according to and MSNBC Poll, 70% of Americans believe President Trump is keeping his campaign promises.

[Winehole23]

Trump is going to need an army of earnest toadies like you to dish all the bullshit

Most of the COVID emergency was during Trump, you're an amnesiac

[Thread]

I think it's more ideological unity. If you're not on board with the agenda, you're not wanted in the administration.

Political unity? Have you noticed the number of prominent Democrats that have left that party and crossed over to help this administration? Two former Democratic Presidential candidates are on his Cabinet for Pete's sake. There are more coming over or considering coming over, all the time.

Face it, Democrats pooped in their Post Toasties with their crazy COVID nonsense and then, they shot themselves in the foot by hiding the decline of the sitting President of the United States and, when it became apparent he was non compos mentis, coronating Kamala Harris, who couldn't even draw a vote in the primary.

You should get out more. Trump is very popular. He was popular on November 5th and his numbers just keep going up now that he is doing exactly what he promised he'd do.

That he's negotiating peace in two theaters of war, gaining the release of American hostages, getting countries like Colombia, Venezuela, and Mexico to take their criminals back, while at the same time -- ferreting out corruption on our federal government -- is exactly what we signed up for. And, according to and MSNBC Poll, 70% of Americans believe President Trump is keeping his campaign promises.

Yon

[SnakeBoy]

Face it, Democrats pooped in their Post Toasties with their crazy COVID nonsense and then, they shot themselves in the foot by hiding the decline of the sitting President of the United States and, when it became apparent he was non compos mentis, coronating Kamala Harris, who couldn't even draw a vote in the primary.


They won't talk about it. They never do.

[Yonivore]

Interesting read...

Trump 2.0 - The Judicial Front (https://ombreolivier.substack.com/p/trump-20-the-judicial-front?r=7yrqz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true)


Completely to no one’s surprise various low level judges, on behalf of various grifters threatened by a lack of federal funding, have issued orders telling Trump he can’t do things he and his various appointees, DOGE etc. are doing.

Since Trump and his team are very far from idiots, it is obvious that they will have expected this and have plans.

[ChumpDumper]

I think it's more ideological unity. If you're not on board with the agenda, you're not wanted in the administration.

Political unity? Have you noticed the number of prominent Democrats that have left that party and crossed over to help this administration? Two former Democratic Presidential candidates are on his Cabinet for Pete's sake. There are more coming over or considering coming over, all the time.

Face it, Democrats pooped in their Post Toasties with their crazy COVID nonsense and then, they shot themselves in the foot by hiding the decline of the sitting President of the United States and, when it became apparent he was non compos mentis, coronating Kamala Harris, who couldn't even draw a vote in the primary.

You should get out more. Trump is very popular. He was popular on November 5th and his numbers just keep going up now that he is doing exactly what he promised he'd do.

That he's negotiating peace in two theaters of war, gaining the release of American hostages, getting countries like Colombia, Venezuela, and Mexico to take their criminals back, while at the same time -- ferreting out corruption on our federal government -- is exactly what we signed up for. And, according to and MSNBC Poll, 70% of Americans believe President Trump is keeping his campaign promises.

Millions of people died from COVID.

You're just so full of shit.

[Winehole23]

*whiff of eugenics*

do disabled people not deserve teachers and reasonable accommodations at school?

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/dept-education-cancels-grant-program-st-thomas-special-ed/89-4e11c81d-1800-4d85-9b58-94f5b96206f3

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

a good example of a sham investigation is DOGE

Trump 2.0 is rushing to tick all the boxes


some distinct steps to erode democracies emerge:


Undermine independent institutions (courts, media, electoral commissions)
the opposition using legal or bureaucratic means (including sham investigations and lawsuits)
Dismantle social protections (weaken welfare and public services, foster resentment towards vulnerable groups)
Retreating from international institutions, agreements and alliances.
Weaponising nationalism (framing “out” groups as the enemy; rewriting history; calling dissent ‘unpatriotic’)
Undermining science and objective knowledge
Alter laws to stay in power (including gerrymandering, changing voter laws)
Undermine free elections (limit voting rights, spread misinformation, deny election results).

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

it's always someone else's fault -- Trump is child-like this way



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[Winehole23]

WARREN: “If CFPB is not there examining these giant banks to make sure they’re following the laws and not cheating customers, who is?”

POWELL: “No one.”

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it's always someone else's fault -- Trump is child-like this way

You want fair now. Now, now you want fair.

Uh, uh.

[Winehole23]

I thought Congress recently passed and the Supreme Court recently upheld a ban on "Tic-Tac"

Maybe EOs really are magic wands

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/technology/tiktok-apple-google-app-stores.html

[Thread]

I thought Congress recently passed and the Supreme Court recently upheld a ban on "Tic-Tac"

Maybe EOs really are magic wands

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/technology/tiktok-apple-google-app-stores.html

Your AOC advocates ignoring the SC. What's good for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

[SnakeBoy]

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[Blake]

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TEA Party!