Lost....What is up with the "Others"?

[shyne]

I think she will turn on the others, and she made that deal before she saw how things were on the beach. Plus I really think shes falling in love with Jack, so that will play a big part in what she does. On the other hand though she really does want to get off the island.

[lefty]

Damn I stopped watching Lost 2 weeks ; it was great, but it has turned blah

[Spurfect]

Damn I stopped watching Lost 2 weeks ; it was great, but it has turned blah

it has really picked up! you are missing out!!

[v2freak]

Sayid has used torture techniques twice since swearing it off. Enough with the damn torture, we've seen with Ben that they don't talk. What's more, they don't even tell each other what's going on

[lefty]

it has really picked up! you are missing out!!
:cry :cry

[j-6]

Damn I stopped watching Lost 2 weeks ; it was great, but it has turned blah

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

ABC.com full episode player

[Vizzini]

I liked this episode, thjere was good dialouge and a wonderful ending. Who in the hell does Jack think he is? If I was Sayid or Sawyer, there would be no f'n way I would let Juliet anywhere near the camp, let alone Claire and her baby. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

[Burn531]

What is the point of Juliet being there if she is just going to leave?

We'll probably find out in the coming weeks. Remember the days run slow on the this show. I think they've been on the island for 90 days.

[AFBlue]

I guess I'll be the one to bump this up this time :)
did you guys watch tonight's episode and what did you think? I thought it was a very good episode, lots of questions answered... and WOW about the ending!!! I don't know whether I'm mad or just confused or what.... gahhh!!!
but it was nice to see Jack & crew reuniting with the rest :tu

I haven't believed that shit was true since her sorry ass story with Kate and the cuffs. I don't know if she'll turn, but I guarantee the reason she is here is to finish her "research" (remember she said she's more of a "researcher" than a "doctor") on Claire and the baby. The plan is probably for her to take the baby, but again, I'm not sure if she'll be turned by the people in the camp.

I think the reason she's doing this (in spite of everything Ben has done to her) is because Jack was right when he said...."I saw the look in your eyes, you want to go home more than anyone here"....and I think she'll do anything to make it happen.

I want to throw this out there.....I think that Locke is pulling the same covert shit on the other side of the island. I steadfastly refuse to believe he's been "turned", and I hope the "others" can trust him enough so we might damn find out some of the mysteries concerning them.

Last thing, the only shoddy piece of writing/storyline is Jack's comment to Sayeed, saying "She's under my protection"....I don't think that sounds like something Jack would say or do, to be presumptuous like he has that kind of "power". And Sayeed's response that he's "given up" the torture life is bullshit....he's just pretending to go along and keeping a close eye on her.

[MannyIsGod]

Jack has taken the lead over Sayeed many times and it really fucking annoys me. You're telling me that a fucking surgeon is going to order around a military officer when they're taking the camp before and is going to tell him how to handle prisoners? Ha.

I like Jack less and less which each episode. In fact the number of characters I hate is starting to grow larger than the ones I like. I miss Ecko. :-/

Oh, and fuck you KSAT for screwing up the HD sound feed so that I couldn't watch my DVRed version and had to watch it online. Bitches.

All in all, the show is picking up and its getting entertaining again. I'm just waiting for the next bullshit filler episode to piss me off though.

[Ginofan]

Jack has taken the lead over Sayeed many times and it really fucking annoys me. You're telling me that a fucking surgeon is going to order around a military officer when they're taking the camp before and is going to tell him how to handle prisoners? Ha.

I like Jack less and less which each episode. In fact the number of characters I hate is starting to grow larger than the ones I like. I miss Ecko. :-/

Oh, and fuck you KSAT for screwing up the HD sound feed so that I couldn't watch my DVRed version and had to watch it online. Bitches.

All in all, the show is picking up and its getting entertaining again. I'm just waiting for the next bullshit filler episode to piss me off though.

So your sound was jacked up too? We just thought it was our TV haha. We had to suffer and watch it on regular television broadcast :depressed

I was just starting to like Juliet, then they showed the flash back of all the plans she made with Ben. Damn I hope she doesn't go through with it all. It seems to me that she is either falling in love with Jack or already is, hopefully that turns her away from her bad intentions.

I agree with Phat Tony about Locke infiltratin The Others. There's no way he would just turn just like that. He has to be gaining information and stuff.

I didn't like the way that the writers just let Sayid and Sawyer get punked by Juliet like that. That seemed pretty weak and I couldn't imagine two of the toughest guys on the island being told what to do by a fertility doctor. It just didn't seem real.

[MannyIsGod]

They really chop Sayeed's balls off. Its bullshit. Enough of Juliet and Kate being all bad ass, let Sawyer drop a bitch slap once in awhile. :p

[MannyIsGod]

More Desmond Less Jack

[MannyIsGod]

And yeah, it was KSAT who fucked it up. I would have watched the regular feed too - but we DVR that shit and watch it later.

Stupid fuckers.

[AFBlue]

I know Jack has trumped Locke, Sayeed, Sawyer, etc....but the way he went about it this time just seemed unbelievable. Usually, he uses reason to get things done his way. Again, I think Sayeed is laying in the weeds on this one, thinking he can get more out of her if he lays off for now....

[j-6]

Our local cable service got their panties in a wad over something with ABC, so we got no HD feed at all for that station until this week.

Anyway, I think that the last few episodes (if you don't count the one with Nicki and the spiders) have been pretty good. This season seems like it has been very uneven compared to the first two. I had low expectations after the two lame episodes with Jack in Thailand and Hurley's VW van, but they've definitely improved since then.

[TheTruth]

Just a down season all around. I'm hoping for a kick ass final 5 episodes, and jump into next season full blast. No weeks off next year, 24 straight episodes.

[AFBlue]

Just a down season all around. I'm hoping for a kick ass final 5 episodes, and jump into next season full blast. No weeks off next year, 24 straight episodes.

That break in the middle killed the momentum of the show. I like the old style of intermittent reruns over the course of a long season....to keep it fresh on people's minds. You don't put a show as successful as Lost on hiatus for months so you can test out other bullshit pilots in that timeslot....horrible.

[Burn531]

Just a down season all around. I'm hoping for a kick ass final 5 episodes, and jump into next season full blast. No weeks off next year, 24 straight episodes.

A while back the producers said in the Lost podcast that there was talk with ABC they were gonna do what 24 does. Come back in January and have 24 straight eps.

[Sonia_TX]

And yeah, it was KSAT who fucked it up. I would have watched the regular feed too - but we DVR that shit and watch it later.

Stupid fuckers.

I just watched it today and was annoyed by the sound. I ended up just putting it on Mute and reading captions when it fucked up. But it just wasn't the same... :(

[JeremyWariner]

This damn show is driving me nuts...Too many twists

[tah]

i wished that was penny. poor desmond

[jaffies]

Don't fall for this bullshit!
I'm calling it...she's a fake.

[Gerryatrics]

Which she?

Lost hasn't sucked as much the past couple of episodes, but unfortunately the show jumped the shark a long time ago.

[Extra Stout]

Don't fall for this bullshit!
I'm calling it...she's a fake.
Sorry... the show is now well into sci-fi territory.

[Extra Stout]

1) Dharma/Mittelos/whoever staged a crash site so that nbody would come looking and find the island

OR

2) There are parallel realities intersecting on the island

OR

3) Naomi is lying

[Extra Stout]

When did she say her name was Naomi? Maybe I just missed that part.

Well, that will be revealed in a future episode. As will the fact that Naomi met Charlie in 1996 right after his encounter on the street with Desmond outside the Widmore building, and Charlie saved her life.

[Ginofan]

I thought this was a really solid episode. I can't wait to see the next three. LOST is really stepping it up over the last few months. I am glad Sawyer killed Locke's dad. I am pissed by how stupid the producers of the show are by making Jack seem like a pussy. He has changed drastically for no reason (unless the Others fucked with him, which I don't think is the case).

Jack is turning into a real dick! WTF Kate comes and tells you this big secret and you can't even tell her one?! UGH he's pissing me off. I wish he would just get jacked (hahah) by Juliette and find out that she's betraying them all and get it over with already. He needs to go back to being the tough guy Jack, leader of the Losties!

I can't wait to see what happens when Sawyer shows everyone the tape that Locke gave him, shit is gonna hit the fan!

[Extra Stout]

How do you know that?
My cousin has a roommate whose butcher's sister's best friend's dog groomer knows a guy whose ex-girlfriend's sister's uncle has a lady who cleans his house, who also cleans the house of Damon Lindelof.

[Extra Stout]

Jack is turning into a real dick! WTF Kate comes and tells you this big secret and you can't even tell her one?! UGH he's pissing me off. I wish he would just get jacked (hahah) by Juliette and find out that she's betraying them all and get it over with already. He needs to go back to being the tough guy Jack, leader of the Losties!

I can't wait to see what happens when Sawyer shows everyone the tape that Locke gave him, shit is gonna hit the fan!
Jack rather obviously is working with Juliet. He knows Kate is pregnant. His behavior is similar to Michael's last season, except of course that he hasn't started shooting people yet.

The tape recorder is going to shatter confidence in Jack's leadership, and I would expect several of our favorite characters to form a new camp led by James (Sawyer) and Sayid.

[Ginofan]

Jack rather obviously is working with Juliet. He knows Kate is pregnant. His behavior is similar to Michael's last season, except of course that he hasn't started shooting people yet.

The tape recorder is going to shatter confidence in Jack's leadership, and I would expect several of our favorite characters to form a new camp led by James (Sawyer) and Sayid.

So Jack is turned? He's working for the others? And how do you know Kate is pregnant? I know Juliet mentioned her on the tape but I figured she was just going to stick around long enough for her to get pregnant then do her research. :wtf

[Extra Stout]

So Jack is turned? He's working for the others? And how do you know Kate is pregnant? I know Juliet mentioned her on the tape but I figured she was just going to stick around long enough for her to get pregnant then do her research. :wtf
He's rather clearly cooperating with Juliet. When Kate gave him the news about Naomi and the radio, notice that Jack was not immediately thrilled about the prospect of getting off the island, but rather flashed a look of panic at Juliet.

The plotline is telegraphing the fact that Kate is pregnant. It's obvious. The Others set it up for her and Sawyer to have sex. They were monitored. The sperm count for men on the island is sky-high. Juliet already left in the message on the tape recorder saying she was going to take samples on "Austen" (aka Kate).

It's also obvious that Juliet was lying about Sun's conceiving on the island, by the way. 53 days ago on the show, Sun and Jin were on the outs after it was revealed that Sun could speak English. They didn't have any "makeup sex" until at least day 44. Juliet didn't know about this, and so couldn't incorporate it into her lie. It can't be explained away by uncertainty in determining the baby's age, because Juliet clearly said she could nail it down within a day or two.

Juliet has any of a number of motivations to lie about this. If she convinces Ben that Sun in fact did conceive on the island, and voila! she survives under Juliet's care, she is that much closer to conning Ben into letting her go home. Or at least she hopes so.

This sets up the future plot twist where Sun figures out that Juliet is lying, and that her life is not in danger, but that Kate's is.

All the little twists and turns over the past three seasons paint a picture about where the show is going.

It had been obvious for example, ever since the episode where we saw Locke's dad throw him out the window to protect his scam to bilk a woman out of her money, that he would be the "real Sawyer."

Again, we saw the shipwreck last night, the Black Rock. Locke mentioned that it was a slaving ship brought to the island to provide workers. This gives us a clue that people have been coming to this island because of its special properties long before the Dharma Initiative ever existed.

Also, we know that the captain of the Black Rock was Magnus Hanso, which gives us an obvious insight into Alvar Hanso's interest in the island.

[mFFL03]

He's rather clearly cooperating with Juliet. When Kate gave him the news about Naomi and the radio, notice that Jack was not immediately thrilled about the prospect of getting off the island, but rather flashed a look of panic at Juliet.

The plotline is telegraphing the fact that Kate is pregnant. It's obvious. The Others set it up for her and Sawyer to have sex. They were monitored. The sperm count for men on the island is sky-high. Juliet already left in the message on the tape recorder saying she was going to take samples on "Austen" (aka Kate).

It's also obvious that Juliet was lying about Sun's conceiving on the island, by the way. 53 days ago on the show, Sun and Jin were on the outs after it was revealed that Sun could speak English. They didn't have any "makeup sex" until at least day 44. Juliet didn't know about this, and so couldn't incorporate it into her lie. It can't be explained away by uncertainty in determining the baby's age, because Juliet clearly said she could nail it down within a day or two.

Juliet has any of a number of motivations to lie about this. If she convinces Ben that Sun in fact did conceive on the island, and voila! she survives under Juliet's care, she is that much closer to conning Ben into letting her go home. Or at least she hopes so.

This sets up the future plot twist where Sun figures out that Juliet is lying, and that her life is not in danger, but that Kate's is.

All the little twists and turns over the past three seasons paint a picture about where the show is going.

It had been obvious for example, ever since the episode where we saw Locke's dad throw him out the window to protect his scam to bilk a woman out of her money, that he would be the "real Sawyer."

Again, we saw the shipwreck last night, the Black Rock. Locke mentioned that it was a slaving ship brought to the island to provide workers. This gives us a clue that people have been coming to this island because of its special properties long before the Dharma Initiative ever existed.

Also, we know that the captain of the Black Rock was Magnus Hanso, which gives us an obvious insight into Alvar Hanso's interest in the island.


nice....what board do you go to for LOST?

[Extra Stout]

nice....what board do you go to for LOST?
They have boards?

(Googles) I guess so. I'll check a couple out.

[mFFL03]

They have boards?

(Googles) I guess so. I'll check a couple out.


Yeah, sometimes the ABC board has good posters...I forgot where I found all the spoilers and thank god.

Nothing is worse than spoiling a show before you see it.

But there was one site that was dedicated to "theories" and they hit the nail on the head a couple of times.

They claimed that the (at that time) new hatch was a huge magnet and it was the reason why the plane crashed on the island. They also claim the island had weird powers due to its highly unstable or beefed up electro magnatism

There was alot to read.....

[shyne]

4815162342.com is a good board that I get info from every now and again.

[shyne]

Badass episode tonight, some good questions were answered and is Locke dead?

[Vizzini]

Holy Bleep! That was a bad ass episode, and I heard that there was going to be more deaths, but I never thought it would be Locke. Wow! What a great turn. And, Jack needs his ass kicked, their camp isn't a dictatorship, he doesn't decide who gets to know what and when. Sayid needs to whup some sense into him.

[Mr. Peabody]

Holy Bleep! That was a bad ass episode, and I heard that there was going to be more deaths, but I never thought it would be Locke. Wow! What a great turn. And, Jack needs his ass kicked, their camp isn't a dictatorship, he doesn't decide who gets to know what and when. Sayid needs to whup some sense into him.

I think Locke may live. He heals fast on the island.

[shyne]

Holy Bleep! That was a bad ass episode, and I heard that there was going to be more deaths, but I never thought it would be Locke. Wow! What a great turn. And, Jack needs his ass kicked, their camp isn't a dictatorship, he doesn't decide who gets to know what and when. Sayid needs to whup some sense into him.

I think they are on the same page now, getting ready to fuck some shit up.

[shyne]

Ben is one evil bastard though, he fucken went mass murder on all those people!

[thispego]

the last episode of lost i saw was when jack, kate, and sawyer were captured by the others. and the black dude and his kid got to leave the island on a boat.... so what have i missed??




:lmao

[Buddy Holly]

FYI... Jacob was Terry O'Quinn (Locke) in a wig. I'm not sure if it's Locke with long here or someone who just looks like Locke who is Jacob but whoever he is, he was Terry O'Quinn in a long hair wig for that second he was visible.

[shyne]

I couldnt see anyone did yall see a face, I just saw hair.

[Buddy Holly]

I watched on HD and have a DVR so the picture may have been clearer than yours and I did pause afterwards on that moment. It's Locke with a bad wig.

[shyne]

I watched on HD and have a DVR so the picture may have been clearer than yours and I did pause afterwards on that moment. It's Locke with a bad wig.


HMM thats pretty crazy I wonder whats gonna happen with that.

[shyne]

Here is a link that will take you to the pics of jacob or locke or whoever the hell he is.
http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39741

[Spurminator]

I thought Jacob would end up being Ben's father. I had it all figured out. Ben wanted to humiliate Locke by showing he couldn't kill his father because Ben was embarrassed that his people knew he was too weak to kill HIS father. But Locke returning with his dead father just made the humilation worse for Ben.

Plus Benjamin was a son of Jacob in the Bible.

Oh well, so much for that.

[Burn531]

I think Locke's gonna die.

Ben is one bad motherfucker.

The season finale should be badass from what I've read.

The Losties vs The Hostels(others?) looks like it will finally happen.

This show is my favorite on tv again after tonight's episode.

[shyne]

I dont think Locke is going to die, I think there is something bigger going on with him.

[Spurminator]

I thought Jacob would end up being Ben's father. I had it all figured out. Ben wanted to humiliate Locke by showing he couldn't kill his father because Ben was embarrassed that his people knew he was too weak to kill HIS father. But Locke returning with his dead father just made the humilation worse for Ben.

Plus Benjamin was a son of Jacob in the Bible.

Oh well, so much for that.


And Benjamin's mother, Rachel, died in the Bible while giving birth to him.

Hmmm....

[King]

And Benjamin's mother, Rachel, died in the Bible while giving birth to him.

Hmmm....

And, in the Bible, Benjamin's father died in a van.

[Spurminator]

:lol

Actually, now that I think about it, something tells me that wasn't really his father...

Somehow Jacob is connected to the island, and somehow Jacob knocked up Ben's mother. That's what I'm going with.

[Mr. Peabody]

And, in the Bible, Benjamin's father died in a van.
:lol

[SoCalSpursFan]

lostpedia.com

EVERYTHING you need to know about lost.

Forum's too.

It may be a little TOO much Lost for you.

[MadDog73]

:lol

Actually, now that I think about it, something tells me that wasn't really his father...

Somehow Jacob is connected to the island, and somehow Jacob knocked up Ben's mother. That's what I'm going with.


What? No. Roger is Ben's dad. That's why Ben wanted Locke to kill his dad, so that Ben didn't feel like so much of an asshole. (My theory).

Still, Ben is one sick fuck. Poor Annie (his child friend). I assume she died too...

Any theories why the "hostiles" look to Ben as their leader? Just cause he saw his Mom? Or is he their leader....

I think once they find out he shot Locke, their "savior", Ben's gonna get his ass kicked.

[Spurminator]

Pfft, there's no Roger in the Bible. That wouldn't work.

[Ginofan]

I thought it was an alright episode. I don't think Locke is dead for sure, he'll survive. I didn't really get what they were trying to say with the whole "Jacob" thing. Why the hell did he say "Help me" and only Locke could hear him? What does he need help with, is the actual person "Jacob" trapped under the house being held hostage by Ben or something? That was just totally confusing.

Also, I don't get the relationship that Ben has with his daughter. How did that storyline come up anyway, how come they haven't explained how Danielle and Ben got together to have this kid?

I'm still pissed off about Jack. He's totally all for Juliet now and doesn't seem too concerned with the questions and concerns of the Losties. A Sayid vs Jack or Sawyer vs Jack throw down would be killer to watch...

I am looking foward to the final episode alot! The "Battle" should be freakin' awesome to witness, I hope Ben gets stabbed in the eyeball or something as painful.

[MannyIsGod]

I thought it was an alright episode. I don't think Locke is dead for sure, he'll survive. I didn't really get what they were trying to say with the whole "Jacob" thing. Why the hell did he say "Help me" and only Locke could hear him? What does he need help with, is the actual person "Jacob" trapped under the house being held hostage by Ben or something? That was just totally confusing.

Also, I don't get the relationship that Ben has with his daughter. How did that storyline come up anyway, how come they haven't explained how Danielle and Ben got together to have this kid?

I'm still pissed off about Jack. He's totally all for Juliet now and doesn't seem too concerned with the questions and concerns of the Losties. A Sayid vs Jack or Sawyer vs Jack throw down would be killer to watch...

I am looking foward to the final episode alot! The "Battle" should be freakin' awesome to witness, I hope Ben gets stabbed in the eyeball or something as painful.I always assumed he wasn't really her father but she doesn't know any better.

[Ginofan]

What.The. Fuck!

[shyne]

Wow!

[Melmart1]

OK.. what the fuck!??!!

Holy shit!!!

Motherfuckers gonna make us wait till January, too. AHHHHHHHH..

We all knew Charlie was gonna die already, but did you get all misty when it finally happened? I did.

[Ginofan]

Is everyone pretty much aware that they shouldn't read this thread unless they want to be spoiled, because I have a super amount of questions I need to vent out but I don't want to spoil the episode for anyone....

[TheTruth]

That was seriously insane. Who the fuck was in the casket? Why does Jack need to go back. That is how you end a season. Chiches Christ.

[Burn531]

Who the fuck would watch American Idol over Lost?

This shows awesome.

Unbelievable!

[Melmart1]

I dont know whether to be happy the episode was so great after some bad ones this season, or be mad that there are more questions now. It's insane, I tells ya! This may be the most satisfying ep in three seasons, and yet the one that is gonna drive me mad the most.

[Ginofan]

OK.. what the fuck!??!!

Holy shit!!!

Motherfuckers gonna make us wait till January, too. AHHHHHHHH..

We all knew Charlie was gonna die already, but did you get all misty when it finally happened? I did.
Hell yeah I did. DAMN IT! Who the hell was that Naomi chick working for??

And who was in the damn casket that NOONE went and saw???

What the FUCK happened to Jack???

What the hell is going on AHHHHHHH!!!!!! :madrun

Damn these Lost writers sure do know how to write a finale! Shit!

[Amarelooms]

Hmmm no idea and why would they all live in the same town? Crazy shit....I don't think Locke would want to get rescued. I kinda don't want them to leave the island...

[Ginofan]

Hmmm no idea and why would they all live in the same town? Crazy shit....I don't think Locke would want to get rescued. I kinda don't want them to leave the island...

I don't think they ALL live in the same town, but we know for sure Jack and Kate do. I wonder if "Him" that Kate talked about was Sawyer....

Maybe this is just the "possible" future. Like in Heroes "The future is not set in stone!". Man I've been watching too much TV.

[Melmart1]

I dont know who Naomi was working for but it was kinda satisfying seeing her bite it.

The casket... its someone from the island, someone Kate doesnt want to go to the funeral for. Sawyer perhaps? And who is "he" that keeps such tabs on her? And why would a woman like Kate allow that?

And what's with Jack saying to call his dad and see who is drunker? Isn't his dad dead?

[spursfan09]

Ok so they are off the island?

[Melmart1]

But hey, at least Oceanic gave them free flights for life! :lol

[Spurfect]

WOW!!!!!!!!1
this episode was insane. omg. wtf! lol
seriously.. i think the funeral was Ben's.
freakin charlie. couldn't he and desmond just swam back up to shore?
GOD!!!!!! when they made us think that Sayid, Bernard and Jin died.
and why does Jack want to go back? why does he think they should have never left. Does Kate feel the same way and is hiding it??? oh man.
this damn show. lol

[Ginofan]

I dont know who Naomi was working for but it was kinda satisfying seeing her bite it.

The casket... its someone from the island, someone Kate doesnt want to go to the funeral for. Sawyer perhaps? And who is "he" that keeps such tabs on her? And why would a woman like Kate allow that?

And what's with Jack saying to call his dad and see who is drunker? Isn't his dad dead?
Ah! I totally forgot that he said that about his dad!

What if he pulled a Desmond??? Maybe he's reliving everything PRE crash and he knew Kate before the crash but then you know something traumatic happens and his "adventure" starts all over??? This sucks ass that we won't know till January! :( :cry

[Burn531]

I'm sayin Ben's in the coffin also. Jack obviously feels bad for what happened. Maybe the Island is inhabited now? At least in the future.

[Spurfect]

here's a thought, maybe Juliet was in the coffin? that may explain why no one was there. no one trusted her from the island. and also Jack was obviously not with her anymore....

[Melmart1]

Ben makes sense, because no way Kate would want to go, yet Jack would want to go because he realized Ben was right about making a big mistake, and can respect Ben for that now.

[Jelly]

Ah! I totally forgot that he said that about his dad!

What if he pulled a Desmond??? Maybe he's reliving everything PRE crash and he knew Kate before the crash but then you know something traumatic happens and his "adventure" starts all over??? This sucks ass that we won't know till January! :( :cry


No. This is DEFINITELY a flash forward to when they get off the Island.
Helicopters will come to rescue them like Desmond said, but I think some may choose to stay (Lock for sure, maybe Bernard and Rose). Jack's life obviously falls apart when he gets back to the mainland and he attempts suicide. it might be Ben in the coffin, but it might be someone Jack killed drunk driving. Kate is with Sawyer and that's who she has to get back to. Jack now wants to go back to the Island and I think he and some of the others might if their lives also fall apart.

[Amarelooms]

No. This is DEFINITELY a flash forward to when the get off the Island.
Helicopters will come to rescue them like Desmond said, but I think some may choose to stay (Lock for sure, maybe Bernard and Rose). Jack's life obviously falls apart when he gets back to the mainland and he attempts suicide. it might be Ben in the coffin, but it might be someone Jack killed drunk driving. Kate is with Sawyer and that's who she has to get back to. Jack now wants to go back to the Island and I think he and some of the others might if their lives also fall apart.

Why would Ben leave the island then? Jack said he was going to kill him anyway :elephant

[Jelly]

Why would Ben leave the island then? Jack said he was going to kill him anyway :elephant

I don't think Ben had much of a choice. Maybe Jack wanted to drag him back to the mainland and kill him there just for spite. Now Jack's a murderer and wants to run back??? I don't know. I'm not sure it matters that much whose in the coffin. And I hate Jack btw. I'd much rather see Kate stay with Sawyer.

[spursfan09]

I don't get it, if those were flashes from the future, then why did Jack make a reference to his dad when he talking to that other doctor. Remember he was like "well get my dad in here and if I"m not as drunk as him then you can;t fire me." or something like that. But his dad is dead....

[braeden0613]

yeah i think that was def from the past...of course maybe that is what they want us to think

[spursfan09]

But he had that band aid on his forehead in both scenes.

[Mr. Peabody]

I don't get it, if those were flashes from the future, then why did Jack make a reference to his dad when he talking to that other doctor. Remember he was like "well get my dad in here and if I"m not as drunk as him then you can;t fire me." or something like that. But his dad is dead....

It had to be a flash from the future because Jack was talking to Kate about the Golden Ticket that Oceanic Airlines gave all of them because of the crash. I don't know how his dad is still alive.

[spursfan09]

well if the island supposedly heals people.....

[Mr. Peabody]

I found this on a Lost board. The name of the funeral home "Hoffs/Drawlar" is an anagram for Flash Forward. Crazy.

[dg7md]

I bet you anything Ben was in that casket, as others have pointed out. But there's always a chance of it being someone else, but Kate showed disgust after Jack wanted her to go to that funeral. I am sure they bring 'home' the eventual dead body of Ben.

What a finale. I can't believe how great this show is. Only 48 episodes left, and I bet many do the "future-past" approach. I'd love to see what happens AFTER these guys leave the island. I hope everyone's life doesn't go downhill after they leave, but I bet that's what is going to happen to most. Would you want to leave back home when you have nothing left? I personally loved the Jack future-flash (present-time?) because it showed that many of these Losties truely don't have anything to go back to.

Chances are Michael and Walt are on that boat, thus why Walt was there with Locke? I know Walt showed up for Shannon, but he did talk backwards and I believe that was a 'vision' of Walt, like him being mirrored onto the island.

Kate may not be with Sawyer, there's always a chance between her and Kevin still, maybe. That'd be very interesting if they went that way.

Another neat theory: I bet Locke *becomes* Jacob, and maybe it does turn out Ben and them were the 'good guys' the whole time?

[Mr. Peabody]

I guess they all start dying once they get off the island. Maybe that's why Ben warned Jack that if he made the call, everyone on the island would die.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

does anyone else almost feel like they know too much now?? this episode, while mostly greatness, left me disappointed in the end:

1) they confirm that they get off the island with 3 damn seasons left
2) we know leaving the island causes shit tons of problems. knowing that, do you really care about them fighting so hard to leave anymore?

For me, time will tell if this episode was greatness, or the straw that kinda broke the proverbial camel's back.

am i the only one thinking this?? :wakeup

[Shaolin-Style]

Could be some desmond like flashes. It added more mystery to me when I felt like I had mostly everything figured out.

[Burn531]

Hurley driving in with the bug and slamming that Other was cool! I felt really bad for Hurley after Sawyer and Charlie both called him "fat" without actually calling him fat.

[dg7md]

That Charlie death was beyond sad. One of the best death scenes I've ever witnessed in anything. Beautifully tragic.

And :lmao at everyone who "quit watching" because it "never answered questions".

[Mr. Peabody]

does anyone else almost feel like they know too much now?? this episode, while mostly greatness, left me disappointed in the end:

1) they confirm that they get off the island with 3 damn seasons left
2) we know leaving the island causes shit tons of problems. knowing that, do you really care about them fighting so hard to leave anymore?

For me, time will tell if this episode was greatness, or the straw that kinda broke the proverbial camel's back.

am i the only one thinking this?? :wakeup

No, I was thinking the same thing. Now no one will ever worry when Jack or Kate are in danger on the island. Also, we now know that at least some will be rescued, so it takes away the possibility that they will be stuck on the island forever. Oh, well. I am sure that the writers will confuse things even more next season.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

I do believe that the coffin was Ben's. I was noticing how short it was...and it makes sense.

Jack's life goes to shit when they leave the island somehow. He realizes that he made a collosal mistake, should have listened to Locke and Ben, and is now destroying himself because of it.

He's the only one that would show up at Ben's funeral.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

No, I was thinking the same thing. Now no one will ever worry when Jack or Kate are in danger on the island. Also, we now know that at least some will be rescued, so it takes away the possibility that they will be stuck on the island forever. Oh, well. I am sure that the writers will confuse things even more next season.

yeah you're right about the writers confusing us. there will surely be great twists and whatnot to come, but im not sure im going to be able to get past that. every time there's a life threatening situation, i can bank on jack and kate making it through.

it's also saddening to see jack, such a great character, just fall to pieces in the future. and to know that for the next 3 seasons...bleh. :dizzy

[spursfan09]

Oh yeah! and they killed off Merry :(

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Great finale. Almost makes up for how lackluster most of this season was. Almost.

Now everyone gets to wait 9 months to see it again.

[Burn531]

it's also saddening to see jack, such a great character, just fall to pieces in the future. and to know that for the next 3 seasons...bleh. :dizzy

Who knows we may see Jack turn his life around. He could return to the island.

I don't think what we saw tonight at the end of the episode with Kate will be the last we see of Jack after they leave the Island. I can see him returning to the Island like he wants.

[Shaolin-Style]

We haven't actually seen them leave the island yet is the thing. Everyone assumes these flashes of the future are set in stone, but much like Desmond's visions of Charlie dying several times, they can and probably will change. I doubt they'll just pop off the island to get on that boat after Desmond informs them what Charlie told him of it not actually being Penny's boat.

And then theres the questions of how Locke's dad got on the island in the first place, what was up with Walt, what Mikhail will end up doing since he's apparently alive.

Plenty of variables.

[u2sarajevo]

Here's a picture of the newspaper article about the funeral. The name appears to start with a J.... The last name appears to end with "antham".... but it's hard to tell. Perhaps it's Juliet? I don't know her last name... Or maybe it's someone we haven't met yet?

I am curious if we will now be in fast forward time or if we will be back in Island time next season. I have to believe it will be Island time.

Here is the picture:
http://i17.tinypic.com/52bb8me.jpg

[u2sarajevo]

Just noticed the article says it's a man... so it's not Juliet.

[shyne]

The name on the article is jeremy bentham, who will be a new character next season. I saw it on wikpedia, hes named after another famous philospher like many on the show including locke.

[jaespur21]

wow. this show was awesome...reading this thread and every comment are my thoughts exactly

[MannyIsGod]

The casket was far too small to be a man. The new charcter must be a child.

Lost finished the season strong. Hopefully the fourth season picks up where this one left off.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW, Seeing Hugo kick some ass made my night. :lol

There are actually a lot of things to root for in this episode, and most of them involved others dying or getting their ass kicked. Charlies death scene was tough as hell to see; it was really well done.

[Burn531]

I just rewatched the last scene with Jack and Kate.I gotta say that the whole conversation was a little strange.

Jack says "I'm sick of lying" and "We made a mistake". It makes me think that Kate, Jack, and the man in the coffin are the only ones that made it off the island.

Maybe they left the rest of the losties on the island. They got off the island for themselves and forgot about everyone else. Kinda like Michael and Walt last season.

Just a thought because that scene is very interesting if rewatched.

[dg7md]

I just rewatched the last scene with Jack and Kate.I gotta say that the whole conversation was a little strange.

Jack says "I'm sick of lying" and "We made a mistake". It makes me think that Kate, Jack, and the man in the coffin are the only ones that made it off the island.

Maybe they left the rest of the losties on the island. They got off the island for themselves and forgot about everyone else. Kinda like Michael and Walt last season.

Just a thought because that scene is very interesting if rewatched.

Maybe, but remember how Claire and Aaron got on a helicopter in Desmond's vision? I think everyone gets off, so that not only do we get to know about the Losties' life pre-island, but we watch their development, and then watch their solutions, aka after they leave the island. Lots of things to conclude, such as Sawyer's situation with his daughter, Kate's, and especially Sayid's and Michael's.

I just think that Jack's life is a mess now that he isn't in-charge any more, and he made a mistake leaving it all behind. Understandable, slightly, but he is just mostly being a wreck because of Sarah making him far worse. If they were still together he'd still be strong.

[shyne]

I wonder what happened with Jack and Juliette though, that kiss made it seem like they were a couple?

[MannyIsGod]

I think you're way offbase on your assessment why Jack is upset. I think the island is an amazing place, maybe one in danger - and leaving it as teh wrong decision because of that. I doubt it is something as petty as not being in charge.

[Ginofan]

After mulling it over all night....I'm still pretty pissed off that they made Jack into a pill-popping suicidal psycho. And I'm still not convinced that the whole flash scene things with Jack were FUTURE flashes.

They throw you off with the Dad reference, otherwise it would totally be a future flash in my eyes with no contradictions.

[Mr. Peabody]

BTW, Seeing Hugo kick some ass made my night. :lol

There are actually a lot of things to root for in this episode, and most of them involved others dying or getting their ass kicked. Charlies death scene was tough as hell to see; it was really well done.

:lol

Yeah, I agree. Sayid snapping that guy's neck with his feet was awesome and then Sawyer shooting that guy after he surrendered was great.

[Ginofan]

:lol

Yeah, I agree. Sayid snapping that guy's neck with his feet was awesome and then Sawyer shooting that guy after he surrendered was great.

I think I said "Oh Shit!" about a dozen times last night! :lol All the explosions, them fooling us into thinking Jin, Sayid, and Bernard were really dead, Sayid snapping that dude's neck, Hurley running over that one Other, Sawyer shooting the Other even after he gave up. Daaaaaaamn

[Spurminator]

Do you think the two chicks in the underwater base ever fooled around? It had to be pretty boring down there.

I think the writers should have explored that relationship more thoroughly. Showtime spinoff?

[Spurfect]

After mulling it over all night....I'm still pretty pissed off that they made Jack into a pill-popping suicidal psycho. And I'm still not convinced that the whole flash scene things with Jack were FUTURE flashes.

They throw you off with the Dad reference, otherwise it would totally be a future flash in my eyes with no contradictions.

it made him more interesting to me. I was starting to dislike him a lot and kind of lose interest in him. but the "flash foward" Jack has me intrigued. He must have gone through some shit! I mean he is really messed up. makes me really want to know what happened.

Manny - yeah i don't think he's that messed up and wants to go to the island just because he can't be in charge anymore. that's way too small of a reason. besides why would he want to go back on the island to be "in charge" again, if no one is there anymore (assuming they were all rescued)?

what pisses me off is how long we have to wait!! :cuss

[Vizzini]

After mulling it over all night....I'm still pretty pissed off that they made Jack into a pill-popping suicidal psycho. And I'm still not convinced that the whole flash scene things with Jack were FUTURE flashes.

They throw you off with the Dad reference, otherwise it would totally be a future flash in my eyes with no contradictions.


I think that since he supposedly saw his father alive on the island (in season one when he goes off and finds the caves and fresh water) that he really believes he is alive, and no one can convince him otherwise.

I have also heard on other sites that the girl Jack saves in the accident was Juliette's sister (I guess the kid looked like her son)

Also, if you are Desmond, and you see Charlie starting to drown, and you have air tanks right at your disposal, wouldn't you try to get one ready and open the door and then actually use it to save yourself and Charlie? I don't get it. It also seemed like Charlie had time to get outside the door and close it behind him, thus sealing in the water, and being able to use the tanks to get back to the surface.

[Spurminator]

Yeah Charlie's death seemed unnecessary... that's my only complaint. I have no problem with them killing him off, but there were several easy outs....

If he hadn't shut the door it would have taken forever for the underwater base to flood and they could have escaped. Or, he could have just escaped out the window. Or hell, why didn't he just shut the door from the outside??

Did Charlie really feel like he HAD to die to complete the mission? Especially after he realized Penny wasn't on the boat, he should have realized that maybe Desmond's vision was incomplete and shouldn't be carried out.

Very nicely done, dramatic scene, but I hate when there are holes like that.

[j-6]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/jalbre6/newspaperclipping2.jpg

[Mr. Peabody]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/jalbre6/newspaperclipping2.jpg

The body of J________ ___entham?

Jeremy Bentham, the utilitarian?

[Shaolin-Style]

Could be an alias for one of the old characters, could be a new character related to one of the old, got me.

[MannyIsGod]

Had to be a kid. The casket was tiny.

[SrA Husker]

Something I thought of this morning...what if the flash-forward was one a premonition like the flashes Desmond has?

[LuvBones]

Wow that finale was insane!!! Man I'm so confused as to who or what to root for! I'm a Locke fan so I was rooting for him to stop them.. I trust that Locke knows more than any of the losties because he's been given all these signs and powers. But whenever the blonde girl in the glass eye told Charlie it took a musician to turn off the signal... that totally threw me off. Why was Charlie destined to do that? So that Jack could get a signal and get rescued? But then that means Locke is wrong in trying to stop them... Agh ! so confused! Can't wait for the next season already!!!! :madrun

[LuvBones]

Had to be a kid. The casket was tiny.I dont know.. why does the article say a Man was found? Wouldn't they say boy or child??

[LuvBones]

And does the article say the man's from New York?.......

[Spurfect]

And does the article say the man's from New York?.......

it was crazy right?! did you think that Sayid, Bernard and Jin were really killed?

[LuvBones]

it was crazy right?! did you think that Sayid, Bernard and Jin were really killed?I guessed from the very beginning they would all 3 be killed so I wasnt surprised when I heard the gunshots. I was surprised later to see they were still alive! :lol

Hey but I guessed correctly that Locke would come and shoot that Naomi girl! Right before he came I was all "Locke! Come kill this girl!! We need you!" :lol and when it happened I was like :wow!! Haha I love Locke! but wtf.. then he just walked away from Jack.. I wonder what he was going off to do?

[Spurfect]

I guessed from the very beginning they would all 3 be killed so I wasnt surprised when I heard the gunshots. I was surprised later to see they were still alive! :lol

Hey but I guessed correctly that Locke would come and shoot that Naomi girl! Right before he came I was all "Locke! Come kill this girl!! We need you!" :lol and when it happened I was like :wow!! Haha I love Locke! but wtf.. then he just walked away from Jack.. I wonder what he was going off to do?

Yeah it was really cool when they showed them alive.
I'm really confused about the "who is right" thing. I guess if the future really is the way it was when it was showing Jack, then maybe Ben and Locke were right. I'm sorry though I really don't like Locke, lol. I wonder what happened with him though, it seemed like when he was in the pit that he was paralyzed again. plus of course him being shot, he just got up and healed or what?

[LuvBones]

Yeah it was really cool when they showed them alive.
I'm really confused about the "who is right" thing. I guess if the future really is the way it was when it was showing Jack, then maybe Ben and Locke were right. I'm sorry though I really don't like Locke, lol. I wonder what happened with him though, it seemed like when he was in the pit that he was paralyzed again. plus of course him being shot, he just got up and healed or what?Yeah that's because Locke if f'ing badass!!!!! :lol

[LuvBones]

Remember when Locke saw that big black smoke monster thing? It didn't kill him but it killed a lot of other people. I wonder what he saw in that thing because it completely changed his outlook. Locke is special, he can see into the future, and he can heal himself. :)

[Spurfect]

Yeah that's because Locke if f'ing badass!!!!! :lol

no, he just has a special power cause of the island :p:
and i think that is why HE wants to stay there. Either he is being selfish and wants to stay cause he feels like that is where he belongs, or he really is right and everyone needs to stay and there is more to it.
dangit we have to wait way too long!! :cuss

[LuvBones]

no, he just has a special power cause of the island :p:
and i think that is why HE wants to stay there. Either he is being selfish and wants to stay cause he feels like that is where he belongs, or he really is right and everyone needs to stay and there is more to it.
dangit we have to wait way too long!! :cussYeah John believes everyone should stay so there has to be a reason for it.. and it looks like Jack regrets leaving the island. If Locke wanted to stay just for him I don't see why he would keep the others there. Not like he's part of any love triangle. :p:

I feel like watching the seasons all over again since there's so much time 'til next season. Man when the show was over I thought that was just the first hour. I was sooo into it that when it finished I was like "ok time for the next hour...." and it was over! :(

:lol Damn I can't wait til next season.

[katyon6th]

Yeah Charlie's death seemed unnecessary... that's my only complaint. I have no problem with them killing him off, but there were several easy outs....

If he hadn't shut the door it would have taken forever for the underwater base to flood and they could have escaped. Or, he could have just escaped out the window. Or hell, why didn't he just shut the door from the outside??

Did Charlie really feel like he HAD to die to complete the mission? Especially after he realized Penny wasn't on the boat, he should have realized that maybe Desmond's vision was incomplete and shouldn't be carried out.

Very nicely done, dramatic scene, but I hate when there are holes like that.

According to Desmond's premonitions, Charlie had to die in order for Claire and her baby to be rescued.

[Spurminator]

Well, he knows they'd be getting onto helicopters, but now that he's talked to Penny he has reason to believe those helicopters aren't being sent by her as they originally thought. He was concerned enough about it to write the note on his hand, but maybe he just wants Desmond to keep an eye out.

[MajorMike]

Ok. Here's what I figger.

We know Penny is looking for 'something' because back when Des released the magnetic pulse, it was her outfit that detected it. There has to be another reason she was looking for it, as she would have never known that an EMP would lead to Des originally.

The group offshore is not Penny's. We also know that they will not kill everyone as Ben said, because we know that at the very least 2, most likely 3 get off. We also know Des sees Claire and Aaron getting on a heli, so they most likely rescued.

The name of the funeral home was Hoffs/Drawlar - which is an anogrm for Flash Forward.

I don't think the casket was Ben's. He would have died before he left; you can't rescue someone who doesn't want to be rescued.

It wasn't really Walt on the island, it was the island manifesting as Walt.

It is most likley not Dharma peeps in the boat, as they would already know where the island is.

Is Mikhail dead?

[Ginofan]

10 days and counting people until all of our questions won't be answered :lol

[BonnerDynasty]

I hate this god damn show. I want to quit watching but I can't.

[j-6]

Two hours of island goodness this evening. Only eight episodes after waiting this long, though?

This show might morph into a box set I buy annually at this rate.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Sweet.

Two answers revealed and another 20 questions posed.

[PakiDan]

So, what's with the Polar Bear?

[katyon6th]

Two hours of island goodness this evening. Only eight episodes after waiting this long, though?

This show might morph into a box set I buy annually at this rate.

Thanks for the reminder.

[Ginofan]

Two hours of island goodness this evening. Only eight episodes after waiting this long, though?

This show might morph into a box set I buy annually at this rate.

When I "infoed" the episode it shows the first hour is only a recap show, what the eff

[DannyT]

so is it a regular show or is the first hour a recap...i have it recording at the house for when i get off but just want to know

[Ginofan]

the first hour is recap

[MannyIsGod]

I think 8 episodes only is the gayest thing since the cancelled heroes season.

SIGN SOME FUCKING WRITERS I DON'T CARE IF THEY SUCK I NEED MY FIX.

Meh episode imo.

[TheTruth]

I think the episode was a great set up for a great season. The 7 episodes we have left better be the fucking balls. Damn studios. Pay the fucking writers.

[Jelly]

I can't believe I waited 8 months for that. What a disappointment. They didn't even show many of the scenes that we've been seeing in the trailers. That was the most boring Lost episode yet. I think I'm gonna have to finally give up on this show.

[Spurminator]

I thought it was good. I expect that we won't actually see them leave the island until the 8th episode.

That said, I was really unconvinced by Hurley's speech about Charlie, and about the split it caused. That whole scene was really weak. Hurley didn't even really explain what Charlie saw that convinced him the boat was not there to rescue them. Desmond was DOWN there and he didn't say a WORD. I'm thinking I would need a little more explaination before walking away from a possible rescue and following a crazy guy who just threw a knife at the woman who had promised to rescue us.

One positive thing about only eight episodes is that (hopefully) the other eight will run in the fall, so we won't have to wait as long.

[Extra Stout]

I think the whole idea of Hurley making that speech is that the plot is going to start turning in the direction of making him the ultimate savior. I predict Locke dies.

[Extra Stout]

I also predict that by the end of what originally was going to be the end of season four (now which I suppose will air in October/November 2008), the main timeline of the show will have caught up with the "flash forward" part.

[spursfan09]

So is Charlie really dead? I missed the episode yesterday. I'm a crazy LOTR fan and he's my fave character on the show.

[jaffies]

Great episode!

What we saw/learned/newthingstoponder/probablyneverbeexplained:

-at least 6 people get off the island
-they're hiding a secret possibly about the other losties they left behind
-Jack trying to shoot Locke in the fucking face
-Jack's dad sitting in the Jacob chair
-and someone else (Locke?) doing who knows what in there with him
-more whispers
-Jorge Garcia rocked this epi, and him having to fight back tears and tell Claire that Charlie died
-Charlie's return -or not-, and his message of 'They need you' written on his hand
-Hurley's 70's Camaro is fixed
-Hurley's nuthouse eskimo drawing and other interesting art on the walls
-Jack goes through a pre-down and out phase, yet is still drinking. And what causes him to go from OK to shit and how long does it take?
-the splitting of the Jack and Locke camp, and Hugo's regret of choosing Locke's side
-Naomi dying, and that dude showing up on the island to rescue them
-Locke and Ben being pretty adamant about the 'rescuers' being "the Beginning of the End"
-Ben's lines of dialogue were hilariously delivered.
-oh yeah, possibly the first gay couple on the island...yeah, keep an eye out for it

I think this episode is a great intro for things to come in this season.
I definitely was going through LOST withdrawals. Seriously, there hasn't been that much great TV in the past 8 months.


ps. I like the fact that there might be more flash-forwards instead of flashbacks. They were getting repetitive and boring.

[Jelly]

Jaffies - who is this gay couple?

[jaffies]

Jaffies - who is this gay couple?


they're extras in the background during the Jack/Locke split

[Jelly]

they're extras in the background during the Jack/Locke split

Okay, thanks. That will be interesting to see.

[Burn531]

I can't believe I waited 8 months for that. What a disappointment. They didn't even show many of the scenes that we've been seeing in the trailers. That was the most boring Lost episode yet. I think I'm gonna have to finally give up on this show.

You're gonna give up on this show after 3 seasons? Maybe wait for these 8 episodes to finish and then decide. From what I've read this show is gonna pick up the pace. There's only 47 eps left.

[Burn531]

What do you means Jacks dad in Jacobs chair?
Got this from lost-forum.com: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/cupcakesaysmeow/facecabin.png

This is from the cabin scene.

[AFBlue]

Are we sure that is legit? The first time around, Jacob was wearing tattered clothes and looked nothing like Jack's dad from what I saw...

And yes, I think it was Locke in there with Hugo.

[AFBlue]

Overall, it didn't have the "umph" that a first episode should have because it really didn't slam anything home....but it was a good start to the season and I look forward to some of those questions (the Oceanic 6 in particular) being answered in the future.

[BonnerDynasty]

Lost has gone downhill ever since the final ep of Season 1. There were only maybe 3 or 4 great episodes in the last season imo.

I don't hype it up anymore. Just take it for what its worth (damn entertaining imo) and enjoy it knowing you will get dragged around for a couple more seasons and won't know shit.


I was kind of pissed Charlie's char was back. If they are going to bring that annoying char back, they better bring back Ecko.

[Extra Stout]

Perhaps all of the apparitions the Losties have been seeing are Jacob, and the special connection to the island is something many of them have, not just Locke and Ben.

[Xylus]

I'm a pretty die-hard Lost fan, and I personally think that the show is currently in its prime. I'll never understand why some people think Season 1 was the pinnacle of the series. Sure, learning about all the characters was fun and exciting, and the hatch mystery was killer. But when I watch those episodes again, I don't find them as exciting or interesting as the last batch of episodes have been. Getting to know characters isn't as fulfilling or rewarding to me as seeing those characters act, react, interact, etc.

In fact, every episode since and including "Tricia Tanaka is Dead" (the episode where Hurley discovered the abandoned vehicle in the jungle) has been excellent. That was like 15 episodes ago.

LOST has most definitely regained its mojo, and anyone who says they're just about ready to give up on the show need to do so already. I hear that same shit after every single episode, usually from the same people. If you don't think the show is a rewarding watch, why stay loyal to it?

[dg7md]

The Jack's dad in Jacob's chair picture is a Photoshop, a damn good one though.

I hear the 8th and apparently final (although the strike is close to being over) has a huge cliffhanger, but not a "season ending" one.

[Xylus]

The Jack's dad in Jacob's chair picture is a Photoshop, a damn good one though.

I hear the 8th and apparently final (although the strike is close to being over) has a huge cliffhanger, but not a "season ending" one.
Uhh, it's clearly not a photoshop. Anyone who was paying attention could see that it was Christian in Jacob's chair.

[jaffies]

The Jack's dad in Jacob's chair picture is a Photoshop, a damn good one though.


It's not photoshopped. His name is even in the credits.

[BonnerDynasty]

I'm a pretty die-hard Lost fan, and I personally think that the show is currently in its prime. I'll never understand why some people think Season 1 was the pinnacle of the series. Sure, learning about all the characters was fun and exciting, and the hatch mystery was killer. But when I watch those episodes again, I don't find them as exciting or interesting as the last batch of episodes have been. Getting to know characters isn't as fulfilling or rewarding to me as seeing those characters act, react, interact, etc.

In fact, every episode since and including "Tricia Tanaka is Dead" (the episode where Hurley discovered the abandoned vehicle in the jungle) has been excellent. That was like 15 episodes ago.

LOST has most definitely regained its mojo, and anyone who says they're just about ready to give up on the show need to do so already. I hear that same shit after every single episode, usually from the same people. If you don't think the show is a rewarding watch, why stay loyal to it?

It's T.V. crack man. You can't give it up. Season 1 was great b/c you really did not know WTF was going on. Now that we have a better idea of what might be actually going on, viewers just want to stick around to see how the writers/creators will tie everything together.

[ATRAIN]

Im as lost now as I have ever been.

[katyon6th]

I don't even know where to start.

What the fuck is Ben and why do they want him????????

[Jelly]

Okay, I was just about ready to give this show up last week, but last night was great!
They more than made up for what I thought was a boring, tedious premier. This new development with Ben is especially fascinating. He is one of the best parts of the show. Really don't like the new British character, but definitely like the Asian rescuer. He'll be a lot of fun to watch.

[Ginofan]

Who the eff are those people!? And what do they want with Ben??? Do you think that George guy they keep talking to on the ship is Ben's "guy"? What the frick is going on?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It's not photoshopped. His name is even in the credits.

His name in the credits means nothing. Michael's name(Harold Perrineau) has been in the credits the last two weeks and we haven't seen him once.

And I bet you that he's the "inside" guy Ben has on the freighter.

[MannyIsGod]

That shit was good.

[AFBlue]

I think the people on the ship are remnants of the Dharma initiative looking for the guy that killed all of their people on the island.

[LuvBones]

Again.. I am so LOST! :spin

[tp2021]

PHAT TONY... i had not considered that. what a great take!

[Extra Stout]

I'm going to take it as a major clue that:

1) Last season's finale was Through The Looking Glass.
2) C.S. Lewis just landed on the island (Charlotte). All we're missing is a wardrobe floating on the waves.

Also, Daniel's projectile travelled 31 minutes into the future, meaning it approached a velocity quite close to the speed of light, apparently even closer than Daniel was expecting.

[TheTruth]

Just watched the last episode, and it was the best one this season. What a great episode.

[Spurminator]

Pretty good interview with Lost producers. Some rumors and theories addressed.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125,00.html

[MannyIsGod]

They're going to film another 3-4 episodes for this season so thats also good news.

[Xylus]

They're going to film another 3-4 episodes for this season so thats also good news.
That's great news. I heard it's being stretched to 13 episodes for this season, which means 'no filler, all killer.' Kind of sucks that the season is short, but if there's more content packed into each episode, I'm all for it.

[Ginofan]

Holy moly what an episode!!!

There's no way in hell that i saw that one coming....freakin' Kate being a mother to Aaron, what happened to Claire????

Was that flash forward before or after Jack has his break down???

[Sonia_TX]

Of course I Thought the baby might be Sawyers until she said she wasn't pregnant... then at the end when she was talking to Jack I thought it might be his. But when she called her son Aaron I was like "WTF?!"

I couldn't tell if it was before or after, Ginofan.

[Xylus]

It was obviously before. Kate was probably put on trial soon after she returned from the Island, and Jack looks the same as he does in Hurley's flash-forward. We know that Hurley's flash-forward came before Jack's, because he hasn't grown the beard yet. I think it's safe to assume that Jack's flash-forward is several months in the future beyond any other flash-forward we've seen.

[jaffies]

Now THAT was a fucking great episode!


My brain hasn't been this fried since season 1

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah man, that episode was AWESOME.

[Kermit]

It was an incredible episode, but people are fucking lost (no pun...) as to what the fuck is going on. Everything's starting to make a lot of sense.

[O-Factor]

Great episode last night. Check out this guys theory. Its really interesting and on par with last nights episode.


http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

[j-6]

Anyone still watching?

[Kermit]

Yeah, although I feel like the show jumped the shark last night. I'll still watch till the end, but it's really getting shitty. I just hope they hurry up and kill Claire.

[j-6]

Yeah, although I feel like the show jumped the shark last night. I'll still watch till the end, but it's really getting shitty. I just hope they hurry up and kill Claire.

Speaking of jumping the shark, it looks like the writers got rid of every background character they could when the village got shot up. Pretty much the biggest thing keeping me watching right now is that I want to see the explanation on how the Oceanic Six are alive with their alleged plane at the bottom of the ocean.

[ATRAIN]

Season Finale this week. I almost gave up on this show last season because IMO last season sucked, but this season picked up in a big way and has been a great season.

[ATRAIN]

Great Season Finale, great season. Only 2 more seasons left and of course so many questions to be answered.

[MadDog73]

Question about Claire:

Do you guys think she is real?

Or has she been taken over by the Island somehow?

The "Island" is not good. It can heal you, but it can kill you too. (Just ask Echo about that). It seems to me that the Island and the black smoke can create illusions of people (like Jack's father, Walt, and Echo's brother).

But Claire is the first character that seems to be possessed by the Island. And the Island doesn't want Aaron back.... or does it?

[ATRAIN]

Question about Claire:

Do you guys think she is real?

Or has she been taken over by the Island somehow?

The "Island" is not good. It can heal you, but it can kill you too. (Just ask Echo about that). It seems to me that the Island and the black smoke can create illusions of people (like Jack's father, Walt, and Echo's brother).

But Claire is the first character that seems to be possessed by the Island. And the Island doesn't want Aaron back.... or does it?



Man I dont even know what to think now. Remember what was said at the end what Locke told Jack? That after they left a of bad thing happened. I wonder what?

[Blake]

Question about Claire:

Do you guys think she is real?

Or has she been taken over by the Island somehow?

The "Island" is not good. It can heal you, but it can kill you too. (Just ask Echo about that). It seems to me that the Island and the black smoke can create illusions of people (like Jack's father, Walt, and Echo's brother).

But Claire is the first character that seems to be possessed by the Island. And the Island doesn't want Aaron back.... or does it?

I think you touched on it with Walt. He was still alive (captured and sending messages to his dad) when he kept popping up in visions.

It's kind of strange how they've gotten away from the days when Kate, Sawyer and Jack were prisoners and they were having a trial for Juliette......

everything is quite different in today's Lost.....

so many questions.......so little that have been answered.......

I'm betting they wait until the very last day to explain the polar bear....

[Anti.Hero]

I quit watching after 2 1/2 seasons because they are just dragging the fans along for however many seasons are left. I was a huge fan but that shit got old after a while. I'll catch up this weekend. That time loop theory is pretty cool.

[DannyT]

is that you....

[Spurfect]

Why can't we get to Page 19 or 20??
OMG, it's the ORCHID!! I'm so Lost......................

[jaffies]

Why can't we get to Page 19 or 20??
OMG, it's the ORCHID!! I'm so Lost......................

Jacob posted all of pages 19 and 20. Only the chosen can read them.

[jaffies]

BTW

great season...

really shitty finale.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5332/seasonfivepreviewip9.jpg

[Mr. Peabody]

I look up the Casimir effect, after hearing Ben explain to Locke about how the time travel in the Orchid functions and I saw something interesting -


Casimir effect and wormholes

Exotic matter with negative energy density is required to stabilize a wormhole.[15] Morris, Thorne and Yurtsever[16] pointed out that the quantum mechanics of the Casimir effect can be used to produce a locally mass-negative region of space-time, and suggested that negative effect could be used to stabilize a wormhole to allow faster than light travel. This was used in the novel Warp Speed by Travis S. Taylor.

So the island contains a wormhole....? Interesting.

[MannyIsGod]

Is this thread broken?

[MannyIsGod]

Anyway, I thought the finale was fucking great! I can't believe you thought it sucked. I think Michael is finally dead.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh shit, wasn't the line where Locke goes "you just killed everyone on the boat" and Ben responds with "So" not the sickest line ever? Loved it.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh Oh and when he goes "checkmake Mr. Ecko!"

[jaffies]

Oh shit, wasn't the line where Locke goes "you just killed everyone on the boat" and Ben responds with "So" not the sickest line ever? Loved it.

well, that's one of the things I didn't like.

I know John has severe issues about finding the secrets of the island, buttttt

This fucking guy just killed all of your friends on the boat, with no explanation other than "so" and "bad emotional responses", shot you in the chest and left you for dead (probably a couple weeks ago), and a whole lot of other shit that is too numerous to mention.
And then, in the next scene you shake his hand??? no questions asked?? "good luck with the incredibly ridiculous frozen donkey wheel, Ben!"

I didn't hate the episode, I just thought it was really weak for a season finale.

[Anti.Hero]

wtf claire?

[ATRAIN]

I think Claire died in the house explosion and was a manifistation to everyone that saw her those few days.

[Anti.Hero]

That series finale went a little too "sci-fi-ish" imo. Kind of corny when he was turning the switch to move the island.

I was wrong for giving up on the show after the first 2 or 3 seasons. It's still great.

[scott]

WTF is up with this tread not allowing me to see page 20... damn you Jacob

[Spurminator]

Claire still has to get on a helicopter with Aaron or that whole Charlie storyline was a lie.

[jaffies]

Claire still has to get on a helicopter with Aaron or that whole Charlie storyline was a lie.

unless Desmond was lying so he could reunite with Penny.

[jaffies]

you'll like this

http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/5/29bridgman.html

[ATRAIN]

WTF is up with this tread not allowing me to see page 20... damn you Jacob

Page 21 as well. I wonder if we can flash foward to be able to read those pages.

[Blake]

Claire still has to get on a helicopter with Aaron or that whole Charlie storyline was a lie.

yeah, and the farther they get away from that, the more difficult it will be to make that make sense.

I'm betting contract problems again got in the way of making the storyline work..

[ATRAIN]

yeah, and the farther they get away from that, the more difficult it will be to make that make sense.

I'm betting contract problems again got in the way of making the storyline work..

yeah but the whole desmond was lying could be a factor in it if they go that route. Maybe he saw AAron leave or hell maybe they will have Claire eventually leave on a chopper.

[Blake]

yeah but the whole desmond was lying could be a factor in it if they go that route. Maybe he saw AAron leave or hell maybe they will have Claire eventually leave on a chopper.

eh. Desmond lying would be a stretch based on his character so far........

the way he still uses the term "brother" shows he still has real strong ties to his time as a monk.

I think Claire will eventually be on a chopper, but the more time it takes, it makes Charlie's sacrifice seem less connected to Claire getting on the chopper.

Quick thought: I think the island/Jacob has a way of projecting images of dead or captive people such as Jack's dad, Charlie and now Ecko......as well as people still alive like Claire and Walt.

Remember when Walt was captured by the Others and was typing to his Dad? It was at this time that Shannon was also seeing images of him.

I think whatever place that is, is where Claire currently is.

[ATRAIN]

eh. Desmond lying would be a stretch based on his character so far........

the way he still uses the term "brother" shows he still has real strong ties to his time as a monk.

I think Claire will eventually be on a chopper, but the more time it takes, it makes Charlie's sacrifice seem less connected to Claire getting on the chopper.

Quick thought: I think the island/Jacob has a way of projecting images of dead or captive people such as Jack's dad, Charlie and now Ecko......as well as people still alive like Claire and Walt.

Remember when Walt was captured by the Others and was typing to his Dad? It was at this time that Shannon was also seeing images of him.

I think whatever place that is, is where Claire currently is.


Yeah I forgot all about Shannon and the Walt thing. Interesting concept. Well we have 2 more seasons to finally get all the answers we have been wanting.

OH yeah and Why doesnt that one guy ever age??

[Blake]

OH yeah and Why doesnt that one guy ever age??

and why does the island force him to wear a heavy dose of eyeliner?

[Jekka]

Yeah I forgot all about Shannon and the Walt thing. Interesting concept. Well we have 2 more seasons to finally get all the answers we have been wanting.

OH yeah and Why doesnt that one guy ever age??

I figured that he'd probably been using the time/space travel thing that Ben destroyed.

[ATRAIN]

I figured that he'd probably been using the time/space travel thing that Ben destroyed.

hummmmmm maybe good point, but I wonder if he was the leader first.

[Spurfect]

and why does the island force him to wear a heavy dose of eyeliner?

maybe the island is emo?

[Blake]

maybe the island is emo?

hmm......ok, here is theory #5261:

the Island was once a high school geek that was bitten by a radioactive spider at a science fair.....it now has superpowers.....

[JudynTX]

Bump!

[ATRAIN]

LOL I was looking for this thread for you but I got distracted with work...

[JudynTX]

LOL I was looking for this thread for you but I got distracted with work...

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure :lol

[ATRAIN]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure :lol

LOL no really.....im a fan and I dont know where the island is. That whole moving the island crap was fucked up and why was it freezing in that area?

[Rohirrim]

Great series when you did not know wtf was going on.

imo, it has kind of jumped the shark by getting too scifi-ish.

[Blake]

That whole moving the island crap was fucked up and why was it freezing in that area?

because they still have to find a way to make the polar bear from season 1 make sense

[Rohirrim]

I was heavily into this series when it first aired and even went on the ABC boards to read the nuts' theories on the backbone of the plot.

Early on the directors said everything could be summed up by real science or something to that effect.

I knew they would have to stretch the finale to tie everything together, but a time-traveling "island"? LOL

[DannyT]

cant wait for this show to start next year

[ATRAIN]

New season Tonight!! Who will be watching?

[ATRAIN]

2 hour premiere at 8 central. Recap show at 7 central.

[JudynTX]

New season Tonight!! Who will be watching?

I am a LOSTie. :D Wait, don't tell me, you think Kate is hot and you want to bang her too?

[ATRAIN]

I am a LOSTie. :D Wait, don't tell me, you think Kate is hot and you want to bang her too?

WELLL YEAH


TV is good this month. I have 24, Nip Tuck, Lost, and Burn Notice!!!

[JudynTX]

WELLL YEAH


TV is good this month. I have 24, Nip Tuck, Lost, and Burn Notice!!!

So where's the freakin island?

[ATRAIN]

So where's the freakin island?

Dont know, hopefully we find out tonight

[JudynTX]

Dont know, hopefully we find out tonight

Where do you think it is? lol

[ATRAIN]

Where do you think it is? lol

LOL I gave up on trying to figure anything about this show out lol.

[JudynTX]

LOL I gave up on trying to figure anything about this show out lol.

I've tried too, failed. :lol Do you read The Fuselage? (msg board for LOSTies)

[ATRAIN]

I've tried too, failed. :lol Do you read The Fuselage? (msg board for LOSTies)

LOL I have before and some of those fuckers have too much time on their hands.

[tp2021]

All that matters is Hurley doesn't die. If he goes, so do I.
I'm interested in seeing how many people die. IIRC, in a flash forward someone said that as soon as they left the island, bad things started happening to the people left behind.
And how the hell is Jin off the island without anyone knowing?

[JudynTX]

LOL I have before and some of those fuckers have too much time on their hands.

Way too much time on their hands, but the theories are hilarious.


And how the hell is Jin off the island without anyone knowing?

Huh?

[FreeMason]

Wow. It's that time again huh.

[AFBlue]

It's on bitches!

[Kermit]

I'm glad they brought back Fionnula Flanagan.

[Shaolin-Style]

Have they ever said anything about Aaron's father? I can't remember anything.

[Kermit]

Have they ever said anything about Aaron's father? I can't remember anything.

Long time ago. Dude left her. She saw a phychic. He basically put her on 815 and the rest is history.

[MeIII]

Lost is stupid.

Now they are going to take us on this lame clusterf@#% timetravel time-line for a couple seasons...

[JudynTX]

:bang Ok, I don't know if I like where this Season is going.......shit! :lol

Now we get to figure out whenever the island moves if it's going backwards or forwards.

[FreeMason]

I better see real pirates from Blackrock next week.