Stoudemire calls Spurs 'dirty' (Bruce & Manu)

[Mark in Austin]

:lol Damn... Stoudamire going to the press with this bs is more of a bitch move than Carmello taking a swing at a player and then running away earlier this year...

[hater]

this is pathetic

[Tigole Bitties]

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[SpursWoman]

I think that should have gotten him a flagrant 10. :lmao :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/494200334_579ad19570_o.jpg

Come down and beware of the black fist!

[ShoogarBear]

This will all be in David Blaine's next commercial.

[LilMissSPURfect]

How bout AMARE suffering the consequences of SLANDER?

[RonMexico]

Amare is lucky he wasn't paralyzed from this vicious attack.


Any Suns fans that still complains after seeing this photo is just a douchebag homer.

That picture says nothing... it's just a moment in time... about a thousand frames will have Bowen's foot not in Amare's hell.

I will admit that I think there is no doubt he was kicked, but there is a definite debate regarding the intent... Bowen could just run goofy and have big feet... or his track record with Isiah, Ray Allen, and Vince Carter could force one to think it was a dirty play. (Jeez, I don't know if there's worse defense that having to cite those 3 pussies in an argument.)

However, unless Amare hurt his own achilles/ankle when he jumped, the TNT replays show him visibly grimace BEFORE he lands (and possibly on his way up), which means he had to feel something.

He shouldn't have said anything, but it didn't hurt the Suns when he let the Kurt Thomas thing slip, so who knows what will happen here.

[DarrinS]

Come down and beware of the black fist!


:lol :lol :lol

[boutons_]

Bruce's wild-assed, suspect right foot tripping Amare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59vXUjiHRko&NR=1

[cherylsteele]

I was wondering if Bruce had this "dirty reputation" before he came to the Spurs or did he get that after he came here, if so what might have caused the change in his play.

[edwaudo]

Thats pretty dirty if you ask me. It is just to much speculation to not be true at this point. Bowen has complaints from almost every player he has guarded this year for that same reason.

The complaints you hear about Raja is totally different than the ones you hear about Bowen. You ask the players they will say Bowen is dirty and Raja is physical.

They do not compare.

[powerpower]

Amare on Bruce:
“ No all of them no I can’t speak for the whole team, only two I can speak of IS Bruce Bowen and manu Ginobili, those are the only two I have noticed dirty d’s from. I tried out with Bruce on the USA team… the guy has no animosity he has…you know he ..when he is on the court he is just trying to hurt guys…he is great defensive player to a certain extent but he also pretty dangerous out there."

So according to Amare, Bruce has no animosity but he tries to hurt people on the court....
When you read this Amare goes back and forth he just alleviates the argument and the claims he is trying to make !!!!

Amare on Manu:
"Manu at times he is dangerous he is sneaky with his fouls because he is such… he acts like such a nice guy but behind close doors he try to injure players…I don’t know Man I just look for a fair game and a clean game. This year , this season he kicked me in the groin on purpose a lot of fans say it was not on purpose because when you look and his reaction he is calm and relaxed but you don’t know he is thinking..he actually went up first and lead me directly in the groin. And that was the regular season and I just ask for a fair game. That’s all man."

"""he acts like such a nice guy but behind close doors he try to injure players…"""
This just makes me think that he is SCARED OF MANU!!!! HHAHHAHA

What makes Amare think that he knows what manu was thinking. I don't think he has a PHD in physiology....

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY!!!! IDIOT..IDIOT

I have one advice for Amare: Start watching Duncans post game interviews to enhance your vocabulary!!!!

[kps0001]

source?

[powerpower]

Amare's interview on WOAI

[confined]

he has a point tho...like that one play where nash and bowen got tangled up on the floor and bowen gets up first and purposely kicks nash in the head...you just don't do those kind of things when you have a rep for being a "classy" player

[ponky]

he has a point tho...like that one play where nash and bowen got tangled up on the floor and bowen gets up first and purposely kicks nash in the head...you just don't do those kind of things when you have a rep for being a "classy" player


hmmm, do you have a youtube link to that incident?

[nkdlunch]

Amare has the IQ of a rodent.

[ponky]

amare might not be the smartest dude around but he doesn't talk in all this broken english crap that the poster wrote. if it's a woai interview why wouldn't the poster just type it out in proper english? to make amare look like a complete moron

[powerpower]

amare might not be the smartest dude around but he doesn't talk in all this broken english crap that the poster wrote. if it's a woai interview why wouldn't the poster just type it out in proper english? to make amare look like a complete moron

hahhahaha listen to it ! again and again
I even took some of the english errors out because i feel sorry for the guy hahahha

[ponky]

hahhahaha listen to it ! again and again
I even took some of the english errors out hahahha

lol, ok. do you have a link? i need a good laugh.

[powerpower]

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/[email protected]&navCatId=15

[5ToolMan]

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury;

In judging if Bruce Bowen is a dirty player or not, I ask you to put aside all the chatter driven by the complaints of a few players that are then fanned by the media and spewed to all ends of the Earth by fans of other NBA teams. To judge this correctly, we must only look at the facts of this case.

Bruce has a reputation as the best perimeter defender in the league. To this, we have no dispute. But is this widely held opinion a fact? While it is a fact in my reality, in truth it is only an opinion based upon how a majority of NBA Fans have percieved by what they think they have seen AND from what they have heard from others expressing their opinion based upon their personal perception and beliefs.

I hope we can all agree, just because an opinion is widely held, it often is not fact. The belief that the World was flat is the classic example of just how flawed human feelings and actions are affected by what they think is true. But once a "new discovery" of fact is learned and spread through humankind all the hate, bickering and name calling slip away as another sad chapter of how sad and petty all of us can be.

But based upon an analysis of fact, I do take extreme exception to the contention by anyone that Bruce Bowen is a dirty player. And here are the facts as to why I feel this way.

In his career, Bowen has played over 12,500 minutes of hard core hustling defense. Because of this, most of his minutes are going against the very best offensive players the league has to offer. With Bruce's defensive style, he is in the grill of his man for over 50 seconds per average minute of play. This would place Bruce head to head with the top offensive players in the game for over 562,000 seconds.

The math does just not add up to Bruce being dirty. Now, we have all heard the cries of the likes of Allen, Carter, Francis and now Amare about how dirty of a player Bowen is. And we acknowledge it is fact that Karl, Thomas and loads of media and fans have said the same. But is it fact that Bowen is a dirty player? Not in a World based upon truth and rational thought.

When all the prosecuter can come up with are a combination of 5 or 6 seconds of plays out of over HALF OF A MILLION SECONDS of hard core defense, this case must be thrown out! When even those 5 or 6 seconds of "evidence" are so suspect that the league, after much reveiw, has never taken any serious action, this case must be thrown out! When you look at the charactor and motive of the accusers, this case must be thrown out!

We must judge Bruce on the charge of dirty play by looking at fact and not fantasy driven by jealosy, hate and ignorance. To rational thinking people, it should be as clear that Bruce is not a dirty player, as it is to all of us today that the World is round.

In closing let m add;

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

If the facts prove they are full of $hit ... you must aquit!

NOT GUILTY!

[aaronstampler]

"He kneed me directly in the gonads!"

[duncanchick21]

:rolleyes And he calls himself "Black Jesus"?

[picnroll]

Kind of makes me wish Amare got to play Karl Malone in a 7 game series.

As I recall last series Kobe was pretty pissed when Nash kicked him in the groin on a drive.

[mVp]

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/[email protected]&navCatId=15

:lol :lol :lol

[cornbread]

Kind of makes me wish Amare got to play Karl Malone in a 7 game series.

Tim and David both battled against Malone in the playoffs. They handled it like men. Unlike Black Charmin.

[rayray2k8]

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/[email protected]&navCatId=15
Is this guy fucking paranoid?

[bobbyjoe]

Mike Finger: With opponent on heels, Amare plays the victim

Web Posted: 05/10/2007 11:41 PM CDT


San Antonio Express-News

Gregg Popovich admitted he was fighting the urge to overreact and do something "silly." Tony Parker was trying to decide if he needed to be more aggressive. And Robert Horry, with his own playful ideas on how to reclaim some momentum, even invoked the name of Jackie Butler.
But then?

Amare Stoudemire opened his mouth and provided the Spurs with the only adjustment they needed.

As much as people talk about lineup changes and strategic moves this time of year, nothing shakes up an NBA playoff series quite like a slip of the tongue. So when Stoudemire blasted Bruce Bowen on Thursday and accused the Spurs of being a "dirty team," he might have thought he was simply blowing the whistle and calling out an opponent.

But at a point when the Suns should have finally been feeling strong and confident against their biggest nemesis, wasn't Stoudemire just turning them into victims all over again?

For years, Phoenix had struggled to put itself in the position it reached on Tuesday. The Spurs had beaten the Suns in 16 of the teams' last 20 meetings, including five of the last six in the playoffs. During that time, there was a growing perception that the Spurs were the one team capable of getting into the Suns' fast-breaking heads.

But after a blowout Phoenix victory in Game 2, it was suddenly Popovich's team that had to figure out how to regroup.

With three days off between Games 2 and 3, the Suns could have spent that time smiling and swaggering and allowing doubt to creep into the minds of Parker, who had trouble being chased by Shawn Marion, and Manu Ginobili, who still hasn't found his postseason stroke, and Bowen, who hasn't slowed down Steve Nash as much as he'd hoped.

But when Bowen heard about Stoudemire's comments Thursday, didn't he have to laugh a little inside? A huge part of his game is making an opponent uncomfortable, and Stoudemire all but confirmed Bowen is doing his job against the Suns.

After viewing the clip of Bowen's kick on YouTube — which already boasts almost as many Bruce Bowen "cheap shot" videos as it does of animals playing musical instruments — it's understandable why Stoudemire might be a bit perturbed.

But to take his frustration public? After a victory?

That's not the best way to show the tables have turned. The only possible upside for Phoenix would be the league suspending Bowen, and that didn't happen.

Sure, Stoudemire isn't the first to complain about Bowen's defensive tactics. But run down the list of the most vocal critics: Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Isiah Thomas, Flip Saunders and Cuttino Mobley.

What do they have in common? Losing records against the Spurs, and zero playoff series victories against Bowen.

It seldom pays to voice frustration about an opposing player's transgressions, and the Spurs know this firsthand. One of the only times they've really made a fuss about a perceived cheap shot in recent years was last year in the conference semifinals against Dallas, when Jason Terry's fist landed below Michael Finley's belt.

Remember how that turned out? Terry was suspended for Game 6, then came back fired up and scored 27 points in Game 7 to help the Mavericks win the series.

Bowen, in all likelihood, will react the same way, just like he usually has.

There was a hiccup earlier this season when Thomas' complaints prompted a league official to warn Bowen about placing his foot under jump shooters, making Bowen a bit tentative for a while after that. But that was because the NBA was questioning his entire defensive approach. In this case, the only thing the league can really do would be to tell him to stop kicking players in their calves.

Chances are, Bowen can still guard while adhering to those guidelines. And when his pestering style becomes the focal point of the series, making the Suns look like the victims instead of the conquerors?

The Suns can thank Stoudemire for the adjustment.

So if David Robinson had called Karl Malone dirty after the elbow which knocked him unconscious, he'd have been a whiner and Malone would have been fired up for the next meeting?

LOL.

This article was just pathetic homer journalism. Shameful. If this guy was writing for the Jazz in the 90's, he'd say the only reason people complained about the Jazz is that they were so good and won 60 games each year.

[Louie Vega]

Everytime they show Stoudemire on tv he always has that " light are on but nobody's home" look about him. The first time I saw him I said I hope this guy isn't as dumb as he looks. Then I heard him talk. I'm positive that Suns fans everywhere cringe everytime he opens his mouth. This has to be the stupidest man in the NBA! :king

[RonMexico]

Bowen is physical and cheap... but I won't call him dirty just yet.

It's true that only the biggest pussies in the league publicly complain about him: VC, Ray Allen, Isiah... but I can't blame Amare for going public about it because he did just miss an entire season due to injury.

I can blame Amare for going public about it because I don't want him to fire up the Spurs any more than they already should be since they're going home for Game 3 after stealing HCA.

[Amare Stoudcrier]

It's true that only the biggest pussies in the league publicly complain about him

How can you call me a pussy??? That is SOOOOO unfair!! :cry :cry :cry

[TheSanityAnnex]

Knees to the nuts are common and should not be considered dirty.

[Jimcs50]

Bowen!!!!!

[JamStone]

I'm sorry, but there really have been quite a few dirty plays by the Spurs in this game.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He's just smarter than Jason Terry and knows how to hit sack without getting caught.

[Jimcs50]

I'm sorry, but there have been quite a few dirty plays by the Spurs in this game.


Bowen is a dirty player...but wtf cares as Spurs' fans??? You had Bill Lambeer and Rick Mahorn, we have Bowen.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Bowen is a dirty player...but wtf cares as Spurs' fans??? You had Bill Lambeer and Rick Mahorn, we have Bowen.
I like Spurs fans that will at least admit it.

[Jimcs50]

I like Spurs fans that will at least admit it.

If Bowen were on the Mavs, we would all be crying foul about Bruce's tactics....that is fact.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If Bowen were on the Mavs, we would all be crying foul about Bruce's tactics....that is fact.

I call him dirty, but I'd love to have him on my team any day.

[Jimcs50]

I call him dirty, but I'd love to have him on my team any day.

My point exactly.

[JamStone]

Bowen is a dirty player...but wtf cares as Spurs' fans??? You had Bill Lambeer and Rick Mahorn, we have Bowen.


Your point? I don't deny Laimbeer and Mahorn were dirty. You are a minority when it comes to Spurs fans admitting Bowen is dirty.

[Jimcs50]

Your point? I don't deny Laimbeer and Mahorn were dirty. You are a minority when it comes to Spurs fans admitting Bowen is dirty.

That is because they are homers with silver tinted glasses

[TheSanityAnnex]

This could get ugly, Bell seems pissed. He'd be stupid to act on his frustrations, but I see it happening. I haven't seen a good bball fight for a while, I'm excited.

[ShoogarBear]

Jim's mad because he bought front-row tickets to the Mavs parade before the playoffs even started.

[WalterBenitez]

Amare is a pure bitch!