Official Dallas Mavericks Offseason Speculation Thread

[Shank]

Holding court from the Mavs media gathering at the AAC

[Findog]

Holding court from the Mavs media gathering at the AAC

My guess is we just bought a pick from Memphis for around $3 million.

[Findog]

I highly doubt Howard's value around the NBA is as bad as some say. I do think that will be the excuse given as to why Howard won't be traded. Donnie is already throwing out the "we like our team" card AGAIN.

www.firedonnie.com will be up and running soon.

I'm not going to trade him for David Lee, which is supposedly what the Knicks offered for him. Whatever else you may say about Howard, he's young, he's been an All-Star, and he's coming off a 3-month stretch that was the worst of his career. You don't sell him off for 50 cents on the dollar.

[Shank]

Josh Howard is like Billy Dee Williams.

Sure he hit women and shit and may be a hack as an actor, but the guy was fucking Lando Calrissian once! How can you forget that? Ignore all the other shit - FUCKING LANDO, DUDE! LANDO! Motherfucker was smooth as hell in knocking out the Death Star.

http://www.starwars.com/community/fun/caption/2005/02/img/caption180.jpg

[Findog]

Josh Howard is like Billy Dee Williams.

Sure he hit women and shit and may be a hack as an actor, but the guy was fucking Lando Calrissian once! How can you forget that? Ignore all the other shit - FUCKING LANDO, DUDE! LANDO! Motherfucker was smooth as hell in knocking out the Death Star.

http://www.starwars.com/community/fun/caption/2005/02/img/caption180.jpg

Look at that lavender cape!

[Shank]

No doubt! Remember how sweet he was? Now, give us your fucking #2 pick and a player for him.

[monosylab1k]

And introducing.....Shan Foster!

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2008&playerId=19236&univLogin02=stateChanged

I can't wait to see him kick all kinds of ass next year in the D-League and/or Europe.

[monosylab1k]

The Mavericks are such a fucking joke. Fire Donnie.

[Shank]

When the Heat can turn around and swipe Chalmers for future 2nds and cash, you know the Mavs office is a fucking joke that can't get anything done. CDR continued to fall and these fucksticks couldn't get off their asses to make a push. We'll likely hear from the Nets that the Mavs made an offer of Juwan Howard and $28.50, thinking it was enough.

These shitheads need to figure it out.

[Amarelooms]

And introducing.....Shan Foster!

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2008&playerId=19236&univLogin02=stateChanged

I can't wait to see him kick all kinds of ass next year in the D-League and/or Europe.


You are a moron...I like the pick..due is solid...great shooter...might be able to contribute in a couple years :elephant

[monosylab1k]

You are a moron...I like the pic..due is solid...great shooter...might be able to contribute in a couple years

yeah he'll be bad ass when Kidd is gone and Dirk is past his prime.

[Shank]

Now Bill Walker sold for cash.

See how easy it is, Mavs office? Pick up the fucking phone and make something happen.

Jet was being shopped around tonight.

[Shank]

Even the Clippers are making moves.

This is embarrassing.

[monosylab1k]

If I hear "we like our team" tomorrow I'm going to go fucking insane.

[KidCongo]

If I hear "we like our team" tomorrow I'm going to go fucking insane.

me too

[Shank]

http://nutsfortrucks.com/store/images/blue_balls_big_nft.jpg

[Amarelooms]

If I hear "we like our team" tomorrow I'm going to go fucking insane.

You guys a losers....waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa...cry me a river. STFU already...sit back and just wait. It's just basketball afterall...WGAS anyway :elephant

[Shank]

We know it's "just basketball". That's why we're here, discussing "basketball".

[dallaskd]

Now Bill Walker sold for cash.

See how easy it is, Mavs office? Pick up the fucking phone and make something happen.

Jet was being shopped around tonight.

Where did Walker go?

[KidCongo]

Where did Walker go?

Celtics

[Shank]

Celtics.

[Shank]

From the Morning News Mavs blog:

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June 26, 2008
Picks were too rich for Mavs' blood
11:03 PM Thu, Jun 26, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon E-mail News tips
Donnie Nelson said the Mavs were "active" late in the first round and at various points in the second round. But teams wanted more cash for picks than Mark Cuban was willing to cough up.

"We didn't feel the price was right," Nelson said.

I asked specifically about Memphis SG Chris Douglas-Roberts. Nelson acknowledged that the Mavs were surprised CDR slipped as far as he did. However, Nelson indicated that the Mavs thought Shan Foster's shooting ability made him a better fit than CDR, a slasher.

"We really were looking for somebody who can shoot and spread the court," Nelson said. "Shan is a heck of a pick at 51."
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Aaaaaaaaand with that explanation, I'm off to sucker punch my wife in the head while she sleeps. That's EXACTLY what the Mavs need - a fucking shooter over a slasher. I think Foster is a good pick, but it's not they have a team full of slashers already.

[monosylab1k]

From the Morning News Mavs blog:

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June 26, 2008
Picks were too rich for Mavs' blood
11:03 PM Thu, Jun 26, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon E-mail News tips
Donnie Nelson said the Mavs were "active" late in the first round and at various points in the second round. But teams wanted more cash for picks than Mark Cuban was willing to cough up.

"We didn't feel the price was right," Nelson said.

I asked specifically about Memphis SG Chris Douglas-Roberts. Nelson acknowledged that the Mavs were surprised CDR slipped as far as he did. However, Nelson indicated that the Mavs thought Shan Foster's shooting ability made him a better fit than CDR, a slasher.

"We really were looking for somebody who can shoot and spread the court," Nelson said. "Shan is a heck of a pick at 51."
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Aaaaaaaaand with that explanation, I'm off to sucker punch my wife in the head while she sleeps. That's EXACTLY what the Mavs need - a fucking shooter over a slasher. I think Foster is a good pick, but it's not they have a team full of slashers already.

When the hell did Cuban turn into Tom Hicks? Just kill me now. No funeral.

[dallaskd]

Celtics

Dammit i was hoping the mavs could get him just cause hes a k-state guy. boston was one of the last places i wanted to see him go. he should have stayed another year or two in college anyways. hopefully they don't keep him and someone else, hopefully dallas can get him.

[Shank]

When the hell did Cuban turn into Tom Hicks? Just kill me now. No funeral.

I don't get it, either. If they were asking too much in straight up cash, then why not sweeten it with future 2nds? Fuck - even the CLIPPERS swapped in the 2nd. You know your front office is crap when the Clippers show more moxy than you.

[monosylab1k]

At least we can dream about rebuilding in 2010. It will be great.

[Shank]

That will be the shit. We'll have Tyronn Lue running the point and dishing to the old man version of Dirk with no ankles and Diop on the inside, making 14 million.

[Shank]

Awesome note: The Nuggets didn't even have a draft pick and they fared better tonight than the Mavs.

[monosylab1k]

So is the plan to cut Shan Foster mid-season in order to make sure we have space to put Jalen Rose on the roster?

[Shank]

Cuban will say he didn't want to spend the money and then turn around and buy the fucking Cubs next week.

Tom Hicks II.

But at least a Hicks team has won a Stanley Cup.

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any way possible to do a S&T for Okafor?

[Shank]

Only if they'd be willing to take on a hefty contract with a lesser player.

I'd rather take Felton from the Bobcats since hearing they're shopping him now.

[stretch]

Only if they'd be willing to take on a hefty contract with a lesser player.

I'd rather take Felton from the Bobcats since hearing they're shopping him now.

yea, but we already got kidd. i would rather have felton, but the Mavs more than likely arent going to get rid of kidd already

[Shank]

Felton to match up against the quicker PGs and be groomed for the future.

MLE between a combination of Diop/CJ Miles/ Patrick O'Bryant/ Pietrus/ Artest?

Damp, Stack and JET were being shopped last night and did find some interest, though nothing came to fruition. But people were listening - especially those wanting to clear space for 2010 (hint, hint).

[stretch]

Felton to match up against the quicker PGs and be groomed for the future.

MLE between a combination of Diop/CJ Miles/ Patrick O'Bryant/ Pietrus/ Artest?

Damp, Stack and JET were being shopped last night and did find some interest, though nothing came to fruition. But people were listening - especially those wanting to clear space for 2010 (hint, hint).

please dont tell me the Nets...

[Shank]

please dont tell me the Nets...

And who might they have that they'd want to move that would total a combination of those contracts? Especially those expiring in time for 2010?

[stretch]

And who might they have that they'd want to move that would total a combination of those contracts? Especially those expiring in time for 2010?

please dont tell me vince carter

[Shank]

You're a quick one.

[stretch]

You're a quick one.

hmm... so any other rumors floating around?

[Shank]

Nothing legit.

[monosylab1k]

With Mike Miller already traded, I'm in full Mavs depression. This team has truly fallen.

As for Vince Carter.....at this point......fuck it. Get him to Dallas. He can't make this team any worse. There's a sliver of a chance he actually gets motivated to win after seeing what Boston did. He's still a top 10 talent when he gives a shit.

I've just given up. No point in caring this much about a team when it's painfully obvious that the players and front office don't care half as much as I do.

[monosylab1k]

Damp, Stack and JET were being shopped last night

There's a name missing from that group. THE name. Those three can stick around and this team won't be worse for it, but if THE name is still on the roster next season this thing is headed straight into the shitter. Jason Kidd needs to get his #5 jersey back next season or we can just gear up early for Rangers spring training.

[arcticjoe]

overreact much, god damn its about as bad as the knicks fans who apparently just boo anything in sight.

solid pick at 51 and its understandable that someone wouldnt want to pay 3 million dollars and or trade picks for a 2nd round pick regardless of the player i mean CDR isnt going to change the franchise around

[0201rinckwater]

Are the Mavs planning on using Deveon George's Bird rights

[Findog]

Are the Mavs planning on using Deveon George's Bird rights

They should be. He can be used to match salary. Honestly, the Mavs just need to start getting rid of their bad contracts, start using their MLE and scouting resources to find the next Brandon Bass, and make a run at Kevin Durant when he becomes a FA. If that team goes to OKC, Durant won't stick around.

It's so frustrating to watch the Blazers run circles around the rest of the league. Shan Foster most likely will never be a player that matters for the Mavericks. But Chris Douglas-Roberts could've been. I don't get it.

[ChumpDumper]

In case you haven't seen it already, here's the Mavs' summer league roster:

Summer League invites

Once the Draft ended, the Mavs were on the phone with rookie free agents. The team has had success in the past with those players overlooked through 60 picks.

The following free agents have been invited to join Renaldas Seibutis, Reyshawn Terry and Shan Foster on the summer league team: Keith McLeod, Aaron Miles, Derrick Low, Reggie Williams, Richie Frahm, JaJuan Smith, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Yaroslav Korolev, Charles Rhodes, James Singleton and Pape Sow.

Foster is expected to arrive in Dallas on Sunday and begin workouts Monday. The team hopes to firm up the summer league roster as soon as possible. The summer league team will play next month in Las Vegas and Salt Lake City.

http://mavscourtsideview.blogspot.com/2008/06/summer-league-invites.html

Quite a good group. Interesting to see Korolev there.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nice SL team. Sow, Singleton, Pops, and Korolev are ones to look out for.

[Bruno]

Aaron Miles is a very solid pass first PG. He should help the team to play well.

[MavDynasty]

Cuban says Dallas Mavericks turned down chances to move up in NBA draft
09:10 PM CDT on Saturday, June 28, 2008
By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]

FRISCO – The Dallas Mavericks received plenty of grief for not moving up in the NBA draft, but for those who have doubts that the cost was prohibitive, Mark Cuban has an explanation.

"One of the teams drafting very high in the second round called and told us we could have their pick for $2 million and a second-rounder," Cuban said Saturday.
"It was outrageous. A team offered us half-a-million for [pick] 51, and we turned it down. People were asking, 'Why aren't you buying up?' We turned down half-a-million because we really, really like Shan."

The Mavericks selected Shan Foster with the 51st pick Thursday, electing not to fund another team's bank account to move up. In the past, early second-round picks have gone for $500,000. Sometimes, $250,000 got a deal done.

Five years ago, the Mavericks moved up five spots in the second round for the princely sum of $10,000.

Clearly, the draft is just as susceptible to inflation as everything else in life.

Cuban said the Mavericks ended up getting three players they had targeted with the 51st pick. It was a little like the 2003 draft that produced Marquis Daniels as an undrafted free agent.

He said it is telling that teams were trying to sell a lot of second-round picks.

"Why were they offering? They're not stupid," Cuban said. "It was a deep draft going in. Then, there were a lot of name players that fell. We thought there might be five guys that we'd trade up for. A couple went and then Shan fell to us. Another one we were looking at [Tennessee's] JaJuan Smith [didn't get drafted and] is coming into camp. Reggie Williams [Virginia Military] is another.

"We always look for the blur of the draft. JaJuan was the fastest guy, the best defender of the point, and Shan was the best shooter."

Asked why Foster lasted until No. 51, Cuban said: "We were lucky. He didn't work out for a lot of teams, and he had some back issues that I think kept him from getting picked higher.

"All you have to do is look at his YouTube tape where he had nine 3s against Mississippi State. It's incredible the range he has. [ESPN analyst] Jay Bilas said Shan couldn't hit the NBA 3, but he never even takes a college 3. I think we got a steal, but we'll see. Everybody's a hero on draft day."

Cuban also said the Mavericks' future for next season is bright.

"There's always work to do," he said. "There's no perfect team. But I think people are underestimating this team in a big way and that's a good thing. Everybody wants to play down [Jason] Kidd, and golly, golly, he's captain of the Olympic team. What does that tell you?"


This gives me some hope that the FO is trying to do something...

[Shank]

Gerald Green with the vet minimum? Eh, not that bad.

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Gerald Green with the vet minimum? Eh, not that bad.

the mavs got gerald green?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Gerald Green with the vet minimum? Eh, not that bad.


the mavs got gerald green?

[Shank]

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=6892540&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

HOUSTON -- Free agent guard Gerald Green has agreed to a one-year contract with the Dallas Mavericks. Green, a first round pick of the Boston Celtics in 2005, was part of the trade that sent Kevin Garnett from Minnesota to Boston. The Timberwolves traded Green to Houston last season. He played in one game for his home town team before being released.

Green was the NBA Slam-Dunk Champion at the 2007 All-Star Game.

"We have a verbal agreement with Dallas on a one year contract," said Colin Bryant, Green's agent in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "We talked to a number of teams and there is more money out there, but this is the best situation for Gerald at this point in his career."

Green went from high school to the NBA. He played at Gulf Shores Academy in Houston.

Bryant believes the Mavericks coaching staff can help Green build a solid foundation.

"With (Head) Coach (Rick) Carlisle and Mario Elie, they will be vital to Gerald's development," Bryant said. "Playing for the Mavericks will help elevate his game."

Elie is a Mavericks assistant coach.

In three years in the NBA Green has averaged 8.1 points and 1.8 rebounds a game.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nice. :tu
You guys gotta get his head straight though. He has a low ass BBIQ.

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http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=6892540&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

HOUSTON -- Free agent guard Gerald Green has agreed to a one-year contract with the Dallas Mavericks. Green, a first round pick of the Boston Celtics in 2005, was part of the trade that sent Kevin Garnett from Minnesota to Boston. The Timberwolves traded Green to Houston last season. He played in one game for his home town team before being released.

Green was the NBA Slam-Dunk Champion at the 2007 All-Star Game.

"We have a verbal agreement with Dallas on a one year contract," said Colin Bryant, Green's agent in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "We talked to a number of teams and there is more money out there, but this is the best situation for Gerald at this point in his career."

Green went from high school to the NBA. He played at Gulf Shores Academy in Houston.

Bryant believes the Mavericks coaching staff can help Green build a solid foundation.

"With (Head) Coach (Rick) Carlisle and Mario Elie, they will be vital to Gerald's development," Bryant said. "Playing for the Mavericks will help elevate his game."

Elie is a Mavericks assistant coach.

In three years in the NBA Green has averaged 8.1 points and 1.8 rebounds a game.

not bad. athletic as hell. definitely has talent. not a bad 3-point shot. and young. and considering hes on a 1 year contract, hes going to be forced to play his ass off this year, or his NBA career could be over. i like this signing.

[mavs>spurs2]

What's the over/under on Shan Foster actually getting minutes this season? I don't know anything about the guy other than a few youtube clips, but he looks damn impressive. It's hard to teach shooting once you're already in the pros, and you can't teach good size at the 2 guard position, 2 things he already has.

[Shank]

Yeah, word is he's a dumbass. But for a guy without a home, I'm sure he's excited about the prospect and will maybe take this opportunity to heart. He'll have a good bunch of guys to learn from, in the way of developing a better work ethic. Though it's a cheesy basketball analogy, the ball is in his court. Hearing that it's for the vet minimum as well. Phew - need to hold onto that entire MLE so they can throw it at Diop while some other team will get Maggette or Childress for the same amount.

But Green, please don't try to go up against Dwight Howard in a dunk contest again. That was embarrassing.

[stretch]

What's the over/under on Shan Foster actually getting minutes this season? I don't know anything about the guy other than a few youtube clips, but he looks damn impressive. It's hard to teach shooting once you're already in the pros, and you can't teach good size at the 2 guard position, 2 things he already has.

yea i hear he a hell of a shooter. and we could definitely use someone that is just a pure shooter. all teams need them.

[stretch]

any chance of the Mavs pursuing Brent Barry? and thoughts if they do?

[mavs>spurs2]

yea i hear he a hell of a shooter. and we could definitely use someone that is just a pure shooter. all teams need them.

Check this out

qUQyS6M2DAA

[Shank]

yea i hear he a hell of a shooter. and we could definitely use someone that is just a pure shooter. all teams need them.

He's a good shooter (someone tell Jay Bilas), a smart kid, very mature, played all 4 years in college, good size and very appreciative of the opportunity. I don't think he'll piss it away and could surprise some people. When they first drafted him, everyone was ho-humming the pick. Now, days later, people are coming to realize the Mavs made a good find at the #51. We all know that the odds of such a low pick actually succeeding are slim, but that's why they take the chance. A sharpshooter, no matter where he was drafted, can be a dangerous piece to any team. Hoping that's what the Mavs found in Foster.

[stretch]

He's a good shooter (someone tell Jay Bilas), a smart kid, very mature, played all 4 years in college, good size and very appreciative of the opportunity. I don't think he'll piss it away and could surprise some people. When they first drafted him, everyone was ho-humming the pick. Now, days later, people are coming to realize the Mavs made a good find at the #51. We all know that the odds of such a low pick actually succeeding are slim, but that's why they take the chance. A sharpshooter, no matter where he was drafted, can be a dangerous piece to any team. Hoping that's what the Mavs found in Foster.

I liked that pick personally.

and looking at the clips of him, i like his shot.

[Shank]

That video is hilarious. He was shooting from damn near half-court. And he did that thing that all winning teams do - the pointing up at the sky after a win thing. Only winners do that. That's how I know the Mavs did well in drafting him.

[dallaskd]

I like green. Dont know where he fits with Foster and Jones is expected to accept his player option.

[dallaskd]

Check this out

qUQyS6M2DAA

wow. :tu

[Shank]

I like green. Dont know where he fits with Foster and Jones is expected to accept his player option.

Jones will be a trade chip with his contract.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Del Harris is expected to sign as an assistant coach with the Chicago Bulls today, ending his nine year tenure with the Dallas Mavericks, the Dallas Morning News is reporting.

Harris joined the Mavericks in 2000 and was top assistant to Don Nelson until Nelson gave over the coaching reins to Avery Johnson in 2005. Harris served as a consultant last season.

New Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle has already signed Dwane Casey and Terry Stotts as assistants and likely will have Mario Elie and one other coach on the staff.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53335/20080702/del_harris_leaving_for_chicago/

[Findog]

Mavs just signed Gerald Green to a vet minimum contract. I like that for the price. He is a young, athletic player, the exact kind of guy you put around Kidd. Hopefully he can get it together.

[Shank]

Good for Del, even though he did give mixed answers about his supposed "retirement" from the court. I think a lot of it had to do with Avery shitting on him and thinking he didn't need his services any longer.

[Shank]

Read where Utah is taking a look at Devean George. Oh, dear God, please let it be true. You want him? You can have him. Sign and trade DG and Lue (they'll love him in Utah because he looks like he's white) for Miles and Millsap. WINNAR!!!!1!!111!

[Findog]

Read where Utah is taking a look at Devean George. Oh, dear God, please let it be true. You want him? You can have him. Sign and trade DG and Lue (they'll love him in Utah because he looks like he's white) for Miles and Millsap. WINNAR!!!!1!!111!

Man, I'd love that, but I can't see the Jazz being so dumb.

[MavDynasty]

Read where Utah is taking a look at Devean George. Oh, dear God, please let it be true. You want him? You can have him. Sign and trade DG and Lue (they'll love him in Utah because he looks like he's white) for Miles and Millsap. WINNAR!!!!1!!111!

:tu

[Shank]

Man, I'd love that, but I can't see the Jazz being so dumb.

Me neither. I was kidding about the trade pieces. I don't think the Jazz will part with Millsap. But Miles is a distinct possibility.

[monosylab1k]

CJ Miles for Dick Breath is a great move.

[Shank]

Diop re-signed.

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Diop re-signed.

sweet...

[monosylab1k]

Diop re-signed.

but for how much?

[Ghazi]

Link?

[Shank]

You're not going to like this.

5 yrs, full MLE.

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You're not going to like this.

5 yrs, full MLE.

dude what the hell

[monosylab1k]

You're not going to like this.

5 yrs, full MLE.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

......no seriously, for how much?

[Shank]

Sorry.

[monosylab1k]

That's it.

I'm officially a Clippers fan.

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well they better find a way to get a few more boards and points per game out of him.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Holy shit. That's so fuckin odd.


And Shank, can we get a link?

[Shank]

To give Diop the full MLE (fucking retarded), then have to have some insight on getting other guys through trades. If Dick Breath, EJones, Terry, Damp and Stack are being shopped - I'm all for whatever they can get in return.

[Shank]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3471169

Updated: July 2, 2008, 4:03 PM ET
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Free-agent center DeSagana Diop on Tuesday gave a verbal commitment to sign a new contract to return to Dallas Mavericks, according to NBA front-office sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that Diop, traded by the Mavericks to New Jersey in February as part of the Jason Kidd deal, will receive the Mavericks' full mid-level exception in a five-year deal starting at nearly $6 million.

Diop cannot officially sign and the Mavericks cannot officially comment until July 9, which is the first day NBA teams can announce signings and trades after a league-wide moratorium on roster moves is lifted.

Diop was a key member of the Dallas team that toppled its in-state rivals from San Antonio and reached the 2006 NBA Finals. It was the franchise's first trip beyond the Western Conference finals.

Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.

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To give Diop the full MLE (fucking retarded), then have to have some insight on getting other guys through trades. If Dick Breath, EJones, Terry, Damp and Stack are being shopped - I'm all for whatever they can get in return.

yea there must be more going on

thats an awful lot, but at the same time, there arent really any other good defensive big men that are out there, or will be out there anytime soon. big men are expensive and hard to come across. he just better play his butt off for us. at least hes still young, so at least we know we have a defensive inside presence locked up for a while.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol @ mono's profile change.

[Darkwaters]

The team that "toppled" its in-state rivals? I didn't know you called a narrow game 7, overtime victory a "toppling," but whatever.

[Ghazi]

I like this acquisition, but it seems way too expensive.

[monosylab1k]

hahaha my team just got Baron Davis, you guys got Diop! You guys suck!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

hahaha my team just got Baron Davis, you guys got Diop! You guys suck!

:lol

[Shank]

hahaha my team just got Baron Davis, you guys got Diop! You guys suck!

Elnono wants you to explain, in full detail, why Chris Kaman is a soft choker.

[sribb43]

after the 1st preseason game the mavs front office will be stratching there heads at this signing...

Mavs would be just as well off by signing Mbenga to a minimum deal

[Findog]

Elnono wants you to explain, in full detail, why Chris Kaman is a soft choker.

Elnono wants you to explain, in full detail, why you think Chris Kaman is better than Dirk Nowitzki

[sribb43]

Diop + Green + Foster = :lobt2:

[timvp]

Damn. Better hope the Mavs don't trade Dirk for Devin Harris.

[Findog]

The full MLE is too much for Diop.

Meh...they woulda been better off splitting the MLE between Justin Williams and Azubukkake.

[ElNono]

Elnono wants you to explain, in full detail, why you think Chris Kaman is better than Dirk Nowitzki

Actually, it would be nice to hear the reasoning why Diop was named a scrub not 6 months ago, but nowadays commands a full MLE?
Some change of heart by Cubes!

[Findog]

Actually, it would be nice to hear the reasoning why Diop was named a scrub not 6 months ago, but nowadays commands a full MLE?
Some change of heart by Cubes!

I don't understand it either.

[Shank]

Actually, it would be nice to hear the reasoning why Diop was named a scrub not 6 months ago, but nowadays commands a full MLE?
Some change of heart by Cubes!

[email protected]

Ask him yourself, faggot.

[Shank]

I don't understand it either.

FA pool is shallow in the names of guys the Mavs would feasibly be able to attain. Teams are looking at George, EJones re-signs, JJB supposedly re-signs for a stupid amount...smells like S&Ts to me.

[Findog]

FA pool is shallow in the names of guys the Mavs would feasibly be able to attain. Teams are looking at George, EJones re-signs, JJB supposedly re-signs for a stupid amount...smells like S&Ts to me.


The 3 year, $3.5 million amount being reported sounds like a 1 year guaranteed SnT contract to me. I have a sinking feeling the Mavs are about to send a load of garbage back to New Jersey for another overrated, washed-up "star."

I really don't want to talk myself into "maybe Vince just needs a change of scenery to give a shit again..."

[monosylab1k]

FA pool is shallow in the names of guys the Mavs would feasibly be able to attain. Teams are looking at George, EJones re-signs, JJB supposedly re-signs for a stupid amount...smells like S&Ts to me.

Maybe Donnie can hold a press conference telling everyone how active they're going to be in the trade market and how they have specific "trigger points" or whatever. That will put Mavfan Nation at ease.

[Findog]

Didn't Vince and Kidd not get along by the time Kidd left NJ?

[Shank]

The 3 year, $3.5 million amount being reported sounds like a 1 year guaranteed SnT contract to me. I have a sinking feeling the Mavs are about to send a load of garbage back to New Jersey for another overrated, washed-up "star."

I really don't want to talk myself into "maybe Vince just needs a change of scenery to give a shit again..."

Sadly. The had something in the works on draft night, but it never came to fruition.

Maybe they can get Marcus Williams out of the deal.

[monosylab1k]

Didn't Vince and Kidd not get along by the time Kidd left NJ?

fuck it. Vince Carter can put up 20/5/5 in his sleep. He's been doing it for years. I'll take that with the glimmer of hope that maybe he wakes up. A motivated Carter is a top 5 player.

[Findog]

Sadly. The had something in the works on draft night, but it never came to fruition.

Maybe they can get Marcus Williams out of the deal.

I'd love that. Maybe the shelf-life for Vince playing hard is 82 games. He did pick it up when he first joined the Nets.

[Findog]

fuck it. Vince Carter can put up 20/5/5 in his sleep. He's been doing it for years. I'll take that with the glimmer of hope that maybe he wakes up. A motivated Carter is a top 5 player.

That's really all we can hope for. He really turned it on right after being traded to NJ. And of course, if he comes here, at a certain point he'll flip the on-off switch firmly to off.

[Shank]

fuck it. Vince Carter can put up 20/5/5 in his sleep. He's been doing it for years. I'll take that with the glimmer of hope that maybe he wakes up. A motivated Carter is a top 5 player.

He's not going to the Clippers, so what do you care?

[Ghazi]

The 3 year, $3.5 million amount being reported sounds like a 1 year guaranteed SnT contract to me. I have a sinking feeling the Mavs are about to send a load of garbage back to New Jersey for another overrated, washed-up "star."

I really don't want to talk myself into "maybe Vince just needs a change of scenery to give a shit again..."


Vince would be awesome. Definitely fills the SG void.

but seems way too pipedreamish.

[dallaskd]

Diop with the full MLE??? im tired of the mavs FO. Im feeling to fully jump on the Sixers bandwagon cus the Clippers wagon seems to be full right now.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

El armador boricua completó ayer los exámenes físicos que exige la organización de los Mavericks de Dallas para hacer valer el acuerdo final que alcanzó en principio por dos años y una opción para un tercer término por 4.8 millones de dólares.
http://www.primerahora.com/noticia/baloncesto/accion_deportiva/barea_esta_que_se_rie_solo_con_el_contrato/206587

Translation: Jose Juan Barea and the Mavericks agree in principle to a 3 year contract worth $4.8M with a player option on the 3rd year.

EDIT: It's a team option, not player option.

[SynicFan]

thats GREAT news!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I know, huh.

[Bruno]

Translation: Jose Juan Barea and the Mavericks agree in principle to a 3 year contract worth $4.8M with a player option on the 3rd year.

That's crazy.

If Cuban is still ready to spend some money on Mavs, they should try to get after Vince Cater. He doesn't fit Nets rebuilding plan so he should be on the trading block and his trade value is low given his huge contract.

[confined]

this just doesn't make sense for the mavs if they plan on keeping barea, he is barely and NBA player and he gets a 4 yr deal? There has to be a trade coming.
i for one would be thrilled if VC came to dallas

[monosylab1k]

something else has to be brewing. there's no other explanation for a deal as idiotic as the JJ Barea signing. either Donnie & Cuban are on the verge of making a huge move, or they're so in love with this team that it's completely clouded their judgement.

This offseason will make Donnie Nelson's legacy. He'll either go down as the guy who kept the next-gen Mavericks alive and possibly built a championship winning team, or the idiot that killed them off completely.

[ElNono]

I think Cubes can get carried away, like with JKidd, but he just isn't THAT stupid.
This definitely looks like they're building a package for some big name player. We'll see who he is.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

El jugador norteamericano James Singleton ha rescindido su contrato con Saski-Baskonia tras acogerse a la cláusula del mismo que le permitía fichar por un equipo de la NBA si lo comunicaba antes del 21 de julio, ha informado el club español.

Su destino será probablemente los Dallas Mavericks. Singleton firmó un año con el TAU, esta temporada pasada, pero se lesionó de gravedad en una rodilla al inicio en septiembre pasado, en la Supercopa.

Translation: James Singleton has used his NBA opt-out clause and is leaving his European club Saski-Baskonia to reportedly sign with the Dallas Mavericks.

http://newstec.sportec.es/noticias.asp?deporte=baloncesto&fichero=2008/07/20080704_2&p=1&t=1


:tu

[Shank]

Translation: James Singleton has used his NBA opt-out clause and is leaving his European club Saski-Baskonia to reportedly sign with the Dallas Mavericks.

http://newstec.sportec.es/noticias.asp?deporte=baloncesto&fichero=2008/07/20080704_2&p=1&t=1


:tu

:lobt2:

[monosylab1k]

very active offseason so far :tu really hitting those trigger points.

[Indazone]

Still gonna get owned by the Spurs and the Rockets :D

[dirk4mvp]

Still gonna get owned by the Spurs and the Rockets :D


You say this as if the rockets have ever owned the mavericks



:lol

[mavs>spurs2]

:lmao

[Findog]

You say this as if the rockets have ever owned the mavericks



:lol

They did in the nineties. Everybody owned Dallas in the nineties.

[stretch]

thoughts on maurice evans? i think he would be a nice bench guy to have, as i just stated in another thread. athletic. good defense. explosive scoring abilities. hits the 3 pointer, and is a good slasher/driver.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Don't you guys only have the minimum to work with now, though?

[stretch]

Don't you guys only have the minimum to work with now, though?

i dont know. the diop deal hasnt been finalized yet. not sure whats going on, but ive heard of rumors of a sign-and-trade with him and some other players... might get interesting...

[Findog]

Having the Nets SnT Diop to Dallas would make so much sense and would preserve our MLE for another player that can help us. But I don't think Tony Cubes and Donnie are that smart...

[stretch]

yup

[Red Hawk #21]

Having the Nets SnT Diop to Dallas would make so much sense and would preserve our MLE for another player that can help us. But I don't think Tony Cubes and Donnie are that smart...

Those guys are fucktards, first they do the Kidd trade and now they give Diop the full mle. Wow, I really wouldn't be suprised if Dirk ends up getting traded for Ryan Bowen.

[Findog]

The flip side of that is that we'd be sending $5.5 million in salary back to NJ for a SnT Diop, and what do we have to give them that we don't want, but they would? Dick Breath, perhaps?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol Who is Dick Breath?

[monosylab1k]

:lol Who is Dick Breath?

He's the guy who can't shoot, can't pass, can't dribble, is considered a defensive stopper but somehow fellas like Stephen Jackson and Morris Peterson can't miss when he guards them, and the asshole who blocked the Jason Kidd trade, forcing Cuban to use the KVH contract in that trade instead of a future trade for Mike Miller.

But he is great at hitting wide open 3's when your team is down by 20 with a few minutes to go.

[Findog]

:lol Who is Dick Breath?

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=202&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=597935

[Red Hawk #21]

He's the guy who can't shoot, can't pass, can't dribble, is considered a defensive stopper but somehow fellas like Stephen Jackson and Morris Peterson can't miss when he guards them, and the asshole who blocked the Jason Kidd trade, forcing Cuban to use the KVH contract in that trade instead of a future trade for Mike Miller.

But he is great at hitting wide open 3's when your team is down by 20 with a few minutes to go.

:lol:lol:lol

[monosylab1k]

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=202&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=597935

The Basketball Anti-Christ

[monosylab1k]

Devean George is a Human Victory Cigar for the other team. When Devean hits a wide open 3 pointer against you, it means that your team is a few minutes away from winning.


The Mavs have a shit-ton of opposing team victory cigars. If any of the following did anything positive on the court, it was when the other team had an insurmountable lead -

Devean George (president of the Dallas Mavericks Opposing Team Victory Cigar club)
Juwan Howard (second in command)
Malik Allen
Antoine Wright
JJ Barea
Trenton Hassell (former member)
DJ Mbenga (former member)
Tariq Abdul-Wahad (former member and 2002-2003 season MVP)
Greg Buckner (founder, former member, and first inductee in the DMOTVCC Hall Of Fame)

[stretch]

Those guys are fucktards, first they do the Kidd trade and now they give Diop the full mle. Wow, I really wouldn't be suprised if Dirk ends up getting traded for Ryan Bowen.

they havent actually given it to him yet though... so lets see what they are going to do

[Red Hawk #21]

they havent actually given it to him yet though... so lets see what they are going to do

Oh I thought they did already, but I still think they will.

[Ghazi]

Mavs are winning hte ship!

[SynicFan]

I say give it to him....he deserves it all!



Those guys are fucktards, first they do the Kidd trade and now they give Diop the full mle. Wow, I really wouldn't be suprised if Dirk ends up getting traded for Ryan Bowen.

[stretch]

okay, so any rumors anyone know of?

[Indazone]

Yeah the Mavericks are rumored to have resigned Avery Johnson and brought Shawn Bradley out of retirement to make another run at mediocrity in the SW Division.:lol

[monosylab1k]

Yeah the Mavericks are rumored to have resigned Avery Johnson and brought Shawn Bradley out of retirement to make another run at mediocrity in the SW Division.:lol

ooh good one! almost as funny as T-Mac in the 2nd round! :lmao

[confined]

Yeah the Mavericks are rumored to have resigned Avery Johnson and brought Shawn Bradley out of retirement to make another run at mediocrity in the SW Division.:lol

Wow that wasn't funny

[stretch]

Yeah the Mavericks are rumored to have resigned Avery Johnson and brought Shawn Bradley out of retirement to make another run at mediocrity in the SW Division.:lol

really :wow

[Indazone]

haha you mean like that first round buh bye dive that the Mavericks executed to flawless perfection this year?

[Findog]

haha you mean like that first round buh bye dive that the Mavericks executed to flawless perfection this year?

What can I say, it was Rocket-esque

[Indazone]

:lol:toast

[monosylab1k]

btw it's official that Diop & JJB are signed to stupid money contracts. So we're all set for a threepeat dynasty run.

[monosylab1k]

at least we aren't getting "we love our team" shoved down our throats. we're just getting silence and the occasional mumbling of some nebulous trigger points that probably don't exist.

[mavs>spurs2]

Call me crazy, but I think if that rumored VC to Dallas deal went through we'd be set. We'd have the legit 2 guard we were lacking and another shooter. Some may not agree but the Diop signing was a big deal to me, you could tell that lacking his defensive presence really hurt us. I'd even go so far as to say he was the 4th most important player on the 2006 team that went to the championship, without his late game defense on Duncan there's no way we get past the Spurs. Plus, giving minutes to Green and Foster can't be any worse than Suckhouse, dick breath, or Eddie Jones.

[monosylab1k]

Call me crazy, but I think if that rumored VC to Dallas deal went through we'd be set.

I'd love for that to happen, but I have this horrible feeling that Donnie & Cuban are so blindly in love with the roster that they think Avery was the only problem and that Carlisle fixes everything.

[stretch]

Call me crazy, but I think if that rumored VC to Dallas deal went through we'd be set. We'd have the legit 2 guard we were lacking and another shooter. Some may not agree but the Diop signing was a big deal to me, you could tell that lacking his defensive presence really hurt us. I'd even go so far as to say he was the 4th most important player on the 2006 team that went to the championship, without his late game defense on Duncan there's no way we get past the Spurs. Plus, giving minutes to Green and Foster can't be any worse than Suckhouse, dick breath, or Eddie Jones.

i definitely think that having Diop back is going to be a major improvement. teams seemed to go on runs far too often as soon as Damp came out of the game, thus causing a good young player in Brandon Bass to constantly have a poor +/- stat line, when it really wasn't his fault. and another thing people forget, is we still havent gotten to see the way Kidd makes his teammates better, due to the awful system of Avery. we definitley saw some glimpses of what he can bring to the table when he is allowed to just do his thing (he even made Dampier look like a very solid center, Terry thrived on fast breaks, Dirk got lots of easy buckets, Howard was being found for alley-oops). unfortunately we didnt get to see that side of him often.

[Findog]

I have no optimism whatsoever regarding the upcoming season. Donnie and Cubes seem clueless. The whole midlevel for Diop, for five years????!!!!??

[MavDynasty]

o well the dumbfucks in the FO tried..


Mavs offered Stack to Nets for Gana Diop
Looks like Gana Diop got his big payday -- bigger than a guy with a 1.8 ppg scoring average deserves, perhaps - but we're happy for him.

And as it turns out, those reports that Dallas solicited the Nets' help in landing Diop for a shorter term were right, but the details were sketchy.

The story goes like this: About a week ago, The Mavs called offering a S/T deal involving Diop, with Stackhouse coming back this way. The Nets ran it up the flagpole in their meetings, but nobody saluted it: Stack ($7.0M this year, $7.25M next year) would never want to deal with a rebuild, and the Nets thought they'd get the same kind of return from one of the kids in-house, notably Chris Douglas-Roberts.

So they declined, leaving Dallas with no choice but to throw an absurd amount at Gana.http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/200...ummer_lea.html

[mavs>spurs2]

i definitely think that having Diop back is going to be a major improvement. teams seemed to go on runs far too often as soon as Damp came out of the game, thus causing a good young player in Brandon Bass to constantly have a poor +/- stat line, when it really wasn't his fault. and another thing people forget, is we still havent gotten to see the way Kidd makes his teammates better, due to the awful system of Avery. we definitley saw some glimpses of what he can bring to the table when he is allowed to just do his thing (he even made Dampier look like a very solid center, Terry thrived on fast breaks, Dirk got lots of easy buckets, Howard was being found for alley-oops). unfortunately we didnt get to see that side of him often.

Seemed to me like we saw more of those things at the beginning, then Avery's micromanagement and control came into play and slowed Kidd down. I know Kidd brought out the best I had seen in Dirk in the past year, he was sort of struggling up until Kidd came in. That there is at least room for a little hope, when you know Kidd is going to make your best player better. The team already rests on Dirk's shoulders.

[monosylab1k]

o well the dumbfucks in the FO tried..

http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/200...ummer_lea.html

:lmao that is beyond pathetic.

[mavs>spurs2]

Guys, stay positive. Just look at Dampier's contract and all of the sudden Diop looks like a hell of a bargain! :lol

Now all we need to do is get his ass in shape so he can play more minutes and become the primary center..

[monosylab1k]

The Mavs front office has become a comedy bit at this point.

[stretch]

Guys, stay positive. Just look at Dampier's contract and all of the sudden Diop looks like a hell of a bargain! :lol

Now all we need to do is get his ass in shape so he can play more minutes and become the primary center..

I think the reason i have optimism is because I am just so anxious to see what Kidd can do for this team. we had a lot of expectations for him that led to optimism, and we didn't get to see those things because of Avery. and this isnt very far from the team that got cheated out of a championship 2 years ago. this team obviously has the ability to go far, and we beat a damn good spurs team that year (and that spurs team is definitely better than any team that was in the league just this past year and IMO was quite possibly the best of all the Spurs teams during their championship runs. of course since they didnt win the championship they wont get that kind of credit, but i think they were a better team than they were the year before when they did win the title, as well as the next year when they won it all)

[monosylab1k]

A year from now we'll ask the following two questions -

1) Were the Mavericks a failure this season?

2) Is Josh Howard still on the team?

Those two questions are tied together because they will have the exact same answer.

[Ghazi]

I dunno about ya'll, but I'm optimistic about the upcoming season. I'll go as far as to guarantee ATLEAST 55 wins and ATLEAST a trip past the first round!

[mystargtr34]

I dunno about ya'll, but I'm optimistic about the upcoming season. I'll go as far as to guarantee ATLEAST 55 wins and ATLEAST a trip past the first round!

Well, that settles that... lock in the Mavs

[Ghazi]

lol, just givin my personal opinion. Of course, a lot is to be undetermined so its a premature prediction.

[MavDynasty]

All we have to do now is trade for Ron Artest. Our team would be pretty badass when you think about it, especially our starting 5, assuming Josh can play 2:

PG Jason Kidd - Can't get more badass than beating up your wife and going to jail. Plus he just looks like a fuckin badass!

SG Josh Howard - He's a dope crazed maniac who says what he wants, whenever he wants to say it. And he hits people in the back of the head without warning!

SF Ron Artest - This guy is just too badass for words. The best serial killer to ever play the game of basketball, other than Rodman.

PF Dirk Nowitzki - He's German, and that's just badass. Someday we will see the triumph of his will!

C Desagana Diop - He's from Senegal, he has probably killed multiple people will machettes. He's just a badass motherfucka

[Dirk Nowitzki]

The Mavs are fucking stupid if they decide to do only a little tinkering to this roster. I want Josh Howard's punk ass gone. That stupid son of a bitch is a fucking worthless scrub in the 4th. He is scared to fucking shoot and a player like that who shits himself in the 4th shouldnt be on this fucking roster.

In terms of signing Diop for the MLE...whatever. The Mavs werent going to land an impact player for the MLE and anyone they sign was only going to slightly help matters. Double team him in the 4th and the best help he has is Stack or Terry.

Kidd needs to go and we should be able to get something in return with his expiring contract. Everyone not named Dirk Nowitzki needs to be traded. It is time to revamp this team. The bleeding cant be stopped.

I wish Dirk would call out the Mavs FO Kobe style so badly. Dirk doesnt deserve any of this fucking bullshit. His prime years are being pissed away. If the Mavs are unable to help Dirk, then blow this whole fucking team up. They had their chance in 2006 with this core and they couldnt get the job done. They have gotten worse since then.

Revamp the supporting cast for Dirk or revamp the entire Mavericks roster. :pctoss:pctoss:madrun:madrun

[Ghazi]

I will go to the grave believing the Mavs should've won in 2006 and were robbed, but what's done is done.

The Mavs had another chance though, in 2007, and Dirk's poor play in the opening round, although it didn't help that the Mavs lacked a low post scorer and Harris got absolutely schooled by Davis, was a contributing factor in the burnout. Much of the Dirk criticism is untrue and unwarranted, but let's not act like he's never had help ever... Mavs won 67 games that year.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

I will go to the grave believing the Mavs should've won in 2006 and were robbed, but what's done is done.

The Mavs had another chance though, in 2007, and Dirk's poor play in the opening round, although it didn't help that the Mavs lacked a low post scorer and Harris got absolutely schooled by Davis, was a contributing factor in the burnout. Much of the Dirk criticism is untrue and unwarranted, but let's not act like he's never had help ever... Mavs won 67 games that year.


Yeah they won 67 games in the REGULAR SEASON. In the playoffs, the tempo and strategies are very different. They took Dirk out of all of his comfort spots with doubles to go with knowing that the rest of the team wasnt going to be enough to beat them. Josh Howard being a worthless piece of shit as a 4th quarter player was a serious issue. Relying on Stackhouse/JET and to extents Harris to fill that 2nd option role is a bad thing.

When push comes to shove, Dirk hasnt had the help he needed. Shitty perimeter defense also didnt help matters either. Again the Mavs front office are fucking idiots if they decide to keep this same core together. They werent good enough in 2006. They werent good enough in 2007 and they sure as hell werent good enough in 2008.

THIS IS A BROKEN TEAM THAT CANT BE FIXED UNLESS TRADES ARE MADE! FUCK YOU MAVS FRONT OFFICE FOR PISSING DIRK'S PRIME AWAY! FUCK YOU!

[mavs>spurs2]

I disagree about 06 Dirk, the Mavs were the best team that year.

[confined]

C Desagana Diop - He's from Senegal, he has probably killed multiple people will machettes. He's just a badass motherfucka

i believe the correct word is BAMF :toast

[monosylab1k]

I wonder which finger Donnie has shoved up his ass this week, since he obviously isn't doing much else.

[MavDynasty]

heres an article from march :lmao


In Stackhouse, Dallas Mavericks have go-to guard

Team begins to click after he answers call to start
By David Moore

Jerry Stackhouse wondered why every guard with a pulse got the chance to start except him.

It bothered Stackhouse. But the veteran swallowed his pride, bit his tongue and waited for coach Avery Johnson to turn to him.

The Mavericks haven't lost since.

Go ahead and dismiss the competition. Wins over New Jersey, New York and Charlotte aren't going to make anyone look differently at these Mavericks.

But confidence and momentum have to be built from the ground up. The Mavericks have played better with Stackhouse in the starting backcourt than they have with any other combination since Jason Kidd joined the team.

"We were kind of sputtering a little bit," said Stackhouse, who finished with 10 points and six assists in Wednesday's obliteration of the Bobcats. "Avery went with what he felt was needed to get it going. I take a lot of pride in that.

"I've never once asked him or told him that I should start or wanted to start."

Stackhouse started the first two games of the season. Eddie Jones, Jason Terry, Josh Howard and Deaven George have rotated through the position since then. Even Maurice Ager and J.J. Barea took their turns.

Stackhouse was silent as Johnson spoke of the need for a 3-point shooter at that position to spread the floor.

"It's not about who's the best 3-point shooter," Stackhouse said. "It's about being a threat and playing basketball."

He didn't squawk when Johnson longed for a shut-down defender.

"I think the whole defensive thing is overrated," Stackhouse said. "You know what I'm saying, trying to start the game with defense. Sometimes, it's just mental.

"It's like Ron Artest or Kobe Bryant or Tracy McGrady. I've gone at those boys so hard. Mentally, they look at me differently probably than anyone else on our team.

"Not that I'm a better defender," Stackhouse continued. "But it's, 'OK, you know, Stack might trip me, so I'm going to shoot this jumper on him instead of drive.' You know what I'm saying? I try to take advantage of some of those things.

"You ain't nothing without your rep."

Maybe you don't want to see Stackhouse open on Bryant or McGrady to start the game. But guess what? With Stackhouse on the court, Josh Howard can defend the high-scoring perimeter player the way he did Wednesday against Jason Richardson. That frees Stackhouse to take the other man.

How many teams have big scorers at shooting guard and small forward? The answer is none of the teams currently ahead of the Mavericks in the Western Conference standings.

Start Stackhouse, and you don't have to putt Kidd on the other team's shooting guard to open the game. It also gives the Mavericks more size so they don't get caught short in the pick-and-roll.

Don't take any of this as Stackhouse firing shots at his coach or teammates. He understands why Johnson was reluctant to move him into the starting lineup.

The Mavericks did go to The Finals and followed that with 67 regular-season wins with Stackhouse as the sixth man. Stackhouse alone outscored the opposing bench 21 times over the last three seasons. He did it nine more times in the playoffs the last two years.

But it has happened only three times this season. The Mavericks continued to churn the bench, and that impacted Stackhouse more than anyone else. His average of 10.1 points is a career low.

"That's what people don't understand," Stackhouse said. "That has such a bearing on your individual flow in the game.

"That's who I've been since I've been here. They don't change the top five or six players. They change the next ones. Those are the ones I have to learn their game and they learn me.

"But I always feel comfortable when I'm in that group with Dirk [Nowitzki], Damp [Erick Dampier], Josh, JT or now Jason. That's what we end games with."

It's too early to say this experiment is the answer. Next week's gantlet against the LA Lakers, Boston and San Antonio will reveal much more about this team.

But with these Mavericks, it looks like Stackhouse must fill a different role. The team is 4-1 this season when he starts.

"It's better for me," Stackhouse said. "I'm not saying I'm going to have 20 every night, but I can spread the floor and do the things we need to make the team have the success we're looking for."

[monosylab1k]

:lmao Stackhouse was complaining about Avery not playing him enough? A huge problem this year was that Avery played him too damn much.

[MavDynasty]

Kid looks promising


Foster Q&A: The rookie is ready to work

Art Garcia | Mavs.com
Posted: July 2, 2008


Mavericks rookie Shan Foster admits it’s a whole new ballgame. The wide-eyed second-round pick understands that talent alone isn’t going to get it done. Just because he can shoot – and he can – doesn’t mean he can play in the NBA.

“I’m definitely going to put in the work,” Foster said. “I’m going to go above and beyond the call of duty everyday whether it’s in practice or a game. I’m going to do whatever it takes to make the team, and not just be satisfied with that. I’m going to continue to work hard to make an impact and be the best teammate that I can be.”

The work has begun. The reigning SEC Player of the Year out of Vanderbilt began working out at American Airlines Center on Monday. The detailed drills – fellow roster hopeful Ronnie Seibutis is also taking part – have focused on fundamentals that aren’t emphasized to the same degree in college.

Foster (6-6, 205) has worked on such aspects as his footwork, shooting release and movement without the ball. Rick Carlisle has a program in place for the youngsters to follow. Video coordinators Monte Mathis and Mike Shedd have been handling the workouts this week.

“One of the things that coach said was that initially you’re only open for a split second, and you have to be able to minimize all excess motion,” Foster said. “So that’s what we’ve been working on.”

Foster added that it’s been an adjustment, but he looks forward to learning and getting better everyday. He also realizes that for the first time in his life, it’s all about basketball.

“I can’t wait,” he said. “Four years of basketball and school, and now it’s just basketball. I’m going to be in the gym like crazy.”


Mavs.com: The team was impressed with your basketball IQ coming into the Draft. Have you always been a student of the game?

Shan Foster: I played for a great coach in Kevin Stallings and he prepared me well for the things that I’m getting ready to go through, and like I said before, it’s about learning and getting better everyday.


MC: What were thoughts when you were picked by Dallas?

SF: Before the Draft started me and my family prayed and just asked God to place us in a spot that would be best suitable for me, whether that’s first round, second round, or undrafted. Whatever the case may be, I just wanted to be where he blessed me the most. I have tremendous faith that that will happen here.

It’s a great city, great players and great coaches. I got a chance to get to know a couple people here, and it feels like a big family environment which I will definitely enjoy. I met a lot of fans in the airport [Sunday night] and I’m just excited about being here.


MC: You were delayed a little bit coming into town?

SF: It was crazy. I was in the airport for six hours. I went to sleep, woke up and my flight got delayed again. Now I’m here and excited about being here.


MC: Has Carlisle talked to about his philosophy?

SF: Offense wins games, defense wins championships. The Boston Celtics proved that this year. They’re a great defensive team, and they got it done defensively and won a championship.

Coach Carlisle is definitely right in that aspect. I look forward to getting better offensively and defensively. I’m going to come in and work my butt off so that I can step in and contribute to the team in any way possible.


MC: How do you see your basketball skills improving from college?

SF: You will definitely see a more well-rounded player coming up here in the next few months.


MC: The Mavs have had success with four-year players coming out of college like Josh Howard. But do you believe there is a stigma with guys that stay all four years?

SF: The last few years the draft has been full of youth. It’s just the way things have changed. It’s just like technology, technology changes every year and the basketball market changes every year. It’s all about what these guys feel will help their team the most. I’m very appreciative that Dallas felt that I would be able to step in and help the team and I look forward to the opportunity.

It was the best four years of my life. I learned a lot and formed a lot of great relationships. I got to know the fans there who I still keep in touch with. I learned a lot and it made me a better person as well as a better player.


MC: Have you begun to make the transition to Dallas?

SF: I have a great support system. Me and my mom are very close and she’ll help me out as much as possible. I also have family in Dallas that I’ve been in contact with to help me out as well. Dallas has been great in terms of making sure that I’m taken care of and answering any questions that I have. I feel comfortable with my adjustment here.


MC: We’ve seen video of you singing and playing keyboards. How did you get into music?

SF: My family is very big on music. Everyone in my family either sings or plays music of some sort. I’ve always been in choirs and singing in church. My mother bought me a keyboard when I was a sophomore in high school and because I love music so much, I’ve spent a lot of time teaching myself how to play.

I can pretty much play anything by ear. I’ve taken classes, but I’m not really too interested in learning how to read music. I want to play more fun stuff, not the classical stuff. Music is my getaway from everything. Just to be able to go and play and get into the music and the gospel. I look forward to it.


MC: Do the Usher comparisons get old?

SF: Not a day goes by that somebody doesn’t say something about Usher. I guess it just comes with the territory.

[monosylab1k]

Shan Foster and JJ Barea look like good candidates for the D-League Hall Of Fame.

[MavDynasty]

He sounds like a good kid, he really does. The more I watch his shooting stroke, it continues to look great.

I think his main thing is that he will need to get used to the speed of the NBA game. Everyone says its a big difference and the competition/skill of the players adds to it. If he can get accustomed to it quickly, and keep his shooting up...he's got a chance.

[MavDynasty]

Dallas Looking at Artest?

Posted: 7/16/2008 4:33:00 AM
Source: SI.com

The talk in Las Vegas continues to be about the future of Ron Artest. Dallas reportedly has had internal discussions about the Kings mercurial power forward and may be willing to part with their own enigmatic forward, Josh Howard, to get him. The Lakers -- who have dangled Lamar Odom -- continue to be regarded as the favorites, with their willingness to swallow the remaining two years and $16.5 million of Kenny Thomas's contract considered the only holdup.

BELEIVE KIDD DIRK ARTEST '08

[stretch]

Dallas Looking at Artest?

Posted: 7/16/2008 4:33:00 AM
Source: SI.com

The talk in Las Vegas continues to be about the future of Ron Artest. Dallas reportedly has had internal discussions about the Kings mercurial power forward and may be willing to part with their own enigmatic forward, Josh Howard, to get him. The Lakers -- who have dangled Lamar Odom -- continue to be regarded as the favorites, with their willingness to swallow the remaining two years and $16.5 million of Kenny Thomas's contract considered the only holdup.

BELEIVE KIDD DIRK ARTEST '08

very intriguing... MAKE IT HAPPEN DALLAS

[confined]

I don't know about this move, it wouldn't be that much of an improvement offensively. Defensively it would be a huge upgrade, plus artest softens the notion of dallas being, well "soft" :downspin:

[stretch]

I don't know about this move, it wouldn't be that much of an improvement offensively. Defensively it would be a huge upgrade, plus artest softens the notion of dallas being, well "soft" :downspin:

Artest drives more and is solid at hitting the open 3. And his defense (especially the steals) will lead to a lot of easy fastbreak opportunities which is something that we desparately lacked this past season.

[mavs>spurs2]

Artest to the Mavs would be great

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Lue signed with the Bucks. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2668551)

[MavDynasty]

Lue signed with the Bucks. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2668551)

Dont call me a dumbass because i havn't kept up with the bucks but i though Lue wanted to play for a contender?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Dont call me a dumbass because i havn't kept up with the bucks but i though Lue wanted to play for a contender?

He followed the word of Maggette. Publicly saying he wants to go to a contender only to go to a shitty team for the money.

[MavDynasty]

Yeah I know its hoopsworld but fuck...



RUMOR HAS IT…
Today's section is geared exclusively towards the latest rumors floating around the NBA …

Dallas Entering the Fray? The Dallas Mavericks acted quickly this summer, signing a number of free agents including DeSagana Diop, Antoine Wright, Jose Barea, Keith McLeod, Gerald Green and James Singleton. Not all of the deals are guaranteed but the Mavericks already have a 14-man roster.

Always looking to improve, the Dallas has reportedly throwing their hat into the Ron Artest chase. According to HOOPSWORLD's Bill Ingram and verified by Sam Amick of the Sacramento Bee, the Mavericks are apparently offering Brandon Bass and the expiring contract of Jerry Stackhouse for Artest.

The Sacramento Kings are in a difficult position in that they don't want to have a disgruntled Artest in training camp - but the more he publicly demands a trade, the more challenging it could be for the Kings to get fair value.

Bass is a promising young big man (in a 6'8" body) but far from an All-Star. At the deadline the Denver Nuggets considered sending Linas Kleiza but never pulled the trigger on a deal.

Artest's market value appears to be that of an unproven but talented player with positive upside.

The Kings would probably like Josh Howard from Dallas but as the Los Angeles Lakers are reluctant to part with Lamar Odom, Artest's "difficult" personality will probably prevent Sacramento from landing such well established players.

Bass may garner interest elsewhere if the Mavs truly want to move him, but the Kings aren't the slightest bit interested in acquiring him for Artest.

[Shank]

I know there are some here that want to immediately get rid of Josh Howard, but I'm willing to bet he doesn't go anywhere soon, especially in a trade for Artest. Stack/Bass is just the start. Mavs will likely have to take on Kenny Thomas' contract, so you have a combination of Bass/Stack/Dick Breath/EJones, etc. to make the salaries match.

[monosylab1k]

nothing will come of this.

[stretch]

wow now this could be a pretty nice lineup...

PG - Kidd / Terry
SG - Howard / Green
SF - Artest / Wright
PF - Dirk / Thomas
C - Diop / Damp

lots of athleticism, solid defense (especially the starting lineup), scoring, youth... a very well rounded team that could compete for a couple more years than expected. if the mavs could get some healthy, motivated minutes out of Kenny Thomas, the Mavs will be a very tough team.

[Ghazi]

I'd go to war with that lineup, but I don't see why the Kings would trade artest for just Stack/Bass. I would do any package involving Artest/Howard though simply because it would be an upgrade in talent.

But I do still have faith in Howard that he can turn it around under Carlisle.

[monosylab1k]

Go to www.nba.com/mavericks and take a nice long look at the roster as it is right now. Learn it. Love it. That's who is going to war next season.

There will be no more changes. The front office doesn't have the balls, competence, or desire to make any more moves. They love their team.

This "rumor" is just being thrown out there for spin control. In case the Mavericks go down in flames next year, Cuban can point to this and say "We tried! We really did! But those meanies just wouldn't trade with us!"

And in the off chance this roster succeeds, they can say "we told you we didn't need to make a change!"

So get out those pompoms and invest in a JJ Barea jersey. We've got next season's team already assembled.

[stretch]

you're a blazers fan anyways so what does it matter to you

[stretch]

I'd go to war with that lineup, but I don't see why the Kings would trade artest for just Stack/Bass. I would do any package involving Artest/Howard though simply because it would be an upgrade in talent.

But I do still have faith in Howard that he can turn it around under Carlisle.

yea the deal doesnt sound very likely, but as long as the rumors that the Mavericks are actually interested in Artest are true, then im happy. i just wanna know that they are actually trying to make move or something. if we could deal Howard for Artest straight up, that would be quite nice.

[MavDynasty]

Talking about how Howard is shit now brings back flashbacks of the 06 Semifinals. If only he could return to his former self.

Wasn't he the only one who showed up last year against GSW?Maybe it was the entire team sucking balls and him sucking the least but i remember he did decent that series.

[Ghazi]

Yeah, I would say Howard was the best Mav for that particular series... and then the worst Mav against the Hornets. UGH!

[monosylab1k]

just did the tradechecker, and this move works -

Josh Howard, Brandon Bass, Jerry Stackhouse

for

Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas, Francisco Garcia

not sure why Sacramento would do this, and there's obviously no way the J-Ho knobslobbers in the Mavs front office do this. But I would be happy as a pig in shit if the Mavs made this trade.

[MavDynasty]

From some of the forums I've read the Kings may not be that interested in Bass because they already have two young guys there in Shelden Williams and now their newest draft pick Jason Thompson.

I'm sure they probably like what Bass has to offer but not at the expense of taking him on for Artest. Honeslty, I think either of these deals can get it done:

1) Howard, Stackhouse, EJ for Artest and KT

or

2) Howard, Bass, Stackhouse (maybe EJ as well) for Artest, KT, and Garcia.

With #1 we don't get a starting 2 back but we keep a key peice in Bass

With trade #2 we lose Bass but get back a starting caliber 2 and a replacement for Bass in KT, albeit with an ugly contract.

Personally, I'd say do trade #2 because it would allow us to nab a starting 2 guard and get a contract than can be moved down the line when teams are trying to get expirings for the 2010 FA market. In the meantime we can use Kenny Thomas as a viable back-up to Dirk and sign on Rhodes as the potential replacement for the back-up 4 spot.I like what he has shown in summer

[Findog]

How good is Francisco Garcia?

[monosylab1k]

How good is Francisco Garcia?

he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.

[MavDynasty]

How good is Francisco Garcia?

hes a legit 2,He can defend well and hit the 3

[monosylab1k]

so is michael redd talk completely gone? If he can be had, I'd take him before Artest.

[Findog]

he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.

Then I would definitely do that deal, because Artest/Garcia would plug up the holes at the 2 and 3. I count a hole at the 3 now because of how terrible Smokey was to end the season. The Mavs should ask for Garcia if they're going to take on Kenny Thomas' contract. What the fuck do the Kings need him for, Kevin Martin is their star 2-guard now.

[Findog]

so is michael redd talk completely gone? If he can be had, I'd take him before Artest.

Looks like the Bucks want to make a run at the seventh seed in the East.

[MavDynasty]

Interesting...


Quote:
A source who would know shared some scenario with HoopsWorld today, basically saying there is a lot of interest in Artest. The Dallas Mavericks are offering basically the same thing they did last year Brandon Bass and Jerry Stackhouse for Ron-Ron. Rick Carlisle would love to have Ron back in his locker room, but he's not willing to part with Josh Howard to get it done. That likely means the Mavs don't have a deal. Stackhouse is a great locker room guy and probably a future coach, but his health is a huge concern. Brandon Bass has huge upside and was an important part of the Mavs' success last season, especially before the Kidd trade. But is he worth Artest? Maybe not. HoopsWorld
Didn't know they offered the same thing last year. Sadly, if this is all the F.O. is willing to offer we may not be getting him.

Looks like rick doesnt wanna give up JHOudini

[monosylab1k]

Fire Carlisle

[Findog]

The Mavs apparently aren't aware that the rest of the basketball world saw what happened against New Orleans in the playoffs.

[monosylab1k]

Amazing, a couple months with Cuban and now Rick is fellating anybody in a Mavs uniform too.

Plus, as great as Bass was, he still averaged only 8 and 4. He's got upside but he isn't the huge trading chip the FO apparently thinks he is.

[greensborohill]

he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.

30 PPG?

[monosylab1k]

30 PPG?

I was talking about just the Dallas version of Stackhouse. a 13 PPG bench scorer type being before he sucked, as opposed to the black hole brick machine he was last year.

[Findog]

30 PPG?

Stackhouse as a Mav before the wheels came completely off the past year. That high scoring average earlier in his career was when he was nothing but a chucker.

[MavDynasty]

I think it's pretty simple.

If Howard is not in the deal then we don't get Artest. But if Howard is in the deal we want back either Salmons or Garcia. To better compensate for the additional player coming back we'll also throw in Bass, a young big-man talent and a combination of Stackhouse and EJ so we can take Kenny Thomas' contract off their hands.

The kings get to unload a nasty contract, acquire an all-star caliber player in return, get a quality veteran with an expiring deal, and get a young big with potential all in exchange for two players stuck on their bench and one making trouble for the organization.

I'm not sure what the Mavs FO fascination is with Howard, he is a nice player but Artest can dominate a game on both ends of the court and we need a guy on this team that can do that. As currently constructed this team isn't going to cut it so let's make something happen.

[Findog]

I think it's pretty simple.

If Howard is not in the deal then we don't get Artest. But if Howard is in the deal we want back either Salmons or Garcia. To better compensate for the additional player coming back we'll also throw in Bass, a young big-man talent and a combination of Stackhouse and EJ so we can take Kenny Thomas' contract off their hands.

The kings get to unload a nasty contract, acquire an all-star caliber player in return, get a quality veteran with an expiring deal, and get a young big with potential all in exchange for two players stuck on their bench and one making trouble for the organization.

I'm not sure what the Mavs FO fascination is with Howard, he is a nice player but Artest can dominate a game on both ends of the court and we need a guy on this team that can do that. As currently constructed this team isn't going to cut it so let's make something happen.

Yeah, pretty much sums it up. Both Howard and Artest have their issues.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bucks sign Malik Allen. (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53644/20080718/bucks_sign_malik_allen/)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Darius Miles Works out for the Mavs (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53643/20080718/darius_miles_works_out_for_mavericks/)

[MavDynasty]

Summer 2006: The Refs
Summer 2007: The Perfect Storm
Summer 2008: The Coach

What will be the title of the excuse next summer?

[sribb43]

WTF is our GM doing coaching the Chinese national team, shouldnt he be soley focused on the Mavs and improving the team and not the pick n roll defense of China.

Donnie is more of a joke then i thought

[sribb43]

Summer 2006: The Refs
Summer 2007: The Perfect Storm
Summer 2008: The Coach

What will be the title of the excuse next summer?

Summer 2009: The GM

[monosylab1k]

At least getting tickets will be easy next year. The cocaine and boob job crowd will be too busy watching the Stars.

[MavDynasty]

anyone see dirk cry and get all emotional when Germany won over puerto rico to get to the olympics?

[monosylab1k]

WTF is our GM doing coaching the Chinese national team, shouldnt he be soley focused on the Mavs and improving the team and not the pick n roll defense of China.

Donnie is more of a joke then i thought

They love their team, he doesn't have anything else to do the rest of the summer as Mavs GM. Not that he did anything noteworthy this offseason to begin with.

[Findog]

They love their team, he doesn't have anything else to do the rest of the summer as Mavs GM. Not that he did anything noteworthy this offseason to begin with.

The basketball apple seems to fall pretty far from that tree.

[monosylab1k]

anyone see dirk cry and get all emotional when Germany won over puerto rico to get to the olympics?

Team Germany can go out and get a legit center this summer, but it's been a good 20 years since the Mavs last had one. I love it.

[Findog]

Team Germany can go out and get a legit center this summer, but it's been a good 20 years since the Mavs last had one. I love it.

I wonder if a 50-year-old James Donaldson is better than what we have now.

[MavDynasty]

I wonder if a 50-year-old James Donaldson is better than what we have now.

kids in highschool are better than what we have.

[stretch]

kids in highschool are better than what we have.

e20 would be better than what we have now

[mavs>spurs2]

E20 >>> WNBA players

[MavDynasty]

Call me crazy, but I think Green has a good shot at being our starting SG this year. It seems to me his biggest problem has been his work ethic, well around Dirk I doubt he will have those problems anymore.
I see a lot of upside for this kid, and think he will fit in well with what we are trying to do with J. Kidd.

I know allot of people here seem to think we need to trade for an established shooter, but what do we have to trade? Howard? Who is going to take a small forward for their shooting guard.
It isn't like it is some well kept secret that the 2 is a more important position in the league right now. No one is going to give up a legitimate 2 for a 3. Outside that we don't have much in the way of trade bait. To make a successful trade you have to have something the other team actually WANTS.

Between Green and Foster I think management has done everything they realistically could to shore up the shooting guard position. You can talk Howard for Artest all you want, but I doubt management wants anything to do with that. Thats trading a guy who has the potential to run his mouth and shoot himself in the foot, with a guy who has the potential to run into the stands and shoot his audience. I want nothing to do with that, and doubt Donnie or Mark do either.

[MavDynasty]

im pretty sure the mavs intended on signing green to start and run and gun with kidd.

[stretch]

Call me crazy, but I think Green has a good shot at being our starting SG this year. It seems to me his biggest problem has been his work ethic, well around Dirk I doubt he will have those problems anymore.
I see a lot of upside for this kid, and think he will fit in well with what we are trying to do with J. Kidd.

I know allot of people here seem to think we need to trade for an established shooter, but what do we have to trade? Howard? Who is going to take a small forward for their shooting guard.
It isn't like it is some well kept secret that the 2 is a more important position in the league right now. No one is going to give up a legitimate 2 for a 3. Outside that we don't have much in the way of trade bait. To make a successful trade you have to have something the other team actually WANTS.

Between Green and Foster I think management has done everything they realistically could to shore up the shooting guard position. You can talk Howard for Artest all you want, but I doubt management wants anything to do with that. Thats trading a guy who has the potential to run his mouth and shoot himself in the foot, with a guy who has the potential to run into the stands and shoot his audience. I want nothing to do with that, and doubt Donnie or Mark do either.

I really dont mind Green at all. I think he is going to suprize some people, much like Bass did last year, or Alan Henderson did in 04-05, or Diop did when he came here. People don't realize, but the Mavericks have actually found quite a few players recently in FA that no one expected to do much at all, but actually turned them into nice pieces for our teams.

I would love getting Artest here, but fact is, when i examine it more, we are not going to be getting a lot, because he will be here for one year, and thats it, because the Mavs wont have enough money to resign him. we could get better pieces for the future if we were to trade Howard.

Now if we could get Michael Redd for Howard, I would be all over that. But otherwise, about the only thing we could use is a pure, reliable shooter. I think our defense will be much improved now that we have two presences in the middle and will allow guys like Kidd and Howard to play more aggressively on defense and get more turnovers.

[Findog]

The scouting report on Green is that he's nowhere near ready to play heavy minutes for a good team. He's the kind of guy who only gets minutes on a shit lottery squad.

[monosylab1k]

If Donnie Nelson was/is banking on Gerald Green to be the answer at SG, he's a lot dumber than I thought. And I think he's pretty fucking stupid.

[Ghazi]

Green as the starting SG would make me vomit... I would rather have Jason "tweener" Terry.

[mavfan1000]

If Donnie Nelson was/is banking on Gerald Green to be the answer at SG, he's a lot dumber than I thought. And I think he's pretty fucking stupid.

And I think you're pretty fucking stupid for ruining my once great reputation around here. I can't believe I let a girl get me so worked up, I guess it was just your tough looking DiCaprio avatar

[Findog]

And I think you're pretty fucking stupid for ruining my once great reputation around here. I can't believe I let a girl get me so worked up, I guess it was just your tough looking DiCaprio avatar

You did it to yourself.

[mavs>spurs2]

You did it to yourself.

:lmao why are you arguing with a troll?

[mavsfan1000]

And I think you're pretty fucking stupid for ruining my once great reputation around here. I can't believe I let a girl get me so worked up, I guess it was just your tough looking DiCaprio avatar
I didn't know it was a girl. I didn't even know that was DiCaprio. It looked like some pissed off guy. I feel honored though that someone would use my name. :D

[monosylab1k]

Well it's another new week in the offseason. I wonder what GM Donnie Nelson has up his sleeve this week. I'm sure he's working on something to improve the Mavericks as I type this.

Oh wait, no he's not, he's out coaching the emm-effing Chinese National Team! Instead of doing his job!

[MavDynasty]

Well it's another new week in the offseason. I wonder what GM Donnie Nelson has up his sleeve this week. I'm sure he's working on something to improve the Mavericks as I type this.

Oh wait, no he's not, he's out coaching the emm-effing Chinese National Team! Instead of doing his job!

Is that why the Mavs suck dick?

[mavfan1000]

Is that why the Mavs suck dick?

I think that all started when you hopped on the wagon.

[monosylab1k]

so Artest is gone now.

they're really gonna roll out the same team that's had nothing but epic failure 3 years straight? Cuban really believes that's the best thing to do?

Fuck this team.

[confined]

so Artest is gone now.

they're really gonna roll out the same team that's had nothing but epic failure 3 years straight? Cuban really believes that's the best thing to do?

Fuck this team.

what the fucking, dick sucking, cunt ass bitch fucking shit is this shit?!
kings take this garbage for artest when they could've had at least a half-decent player in Brandon Bass

Fuck the NBA

[sribb43]

Where the fuck is Donnie and why isnt he doing is job? Oh wait he is coaching the fucking Chinese national team...that sorry piece of shit

And why do we have to give up a shit load to get J-Kidd but everyone else in the league can acquire stud players by giving up absolute garbage

[angelbelow]

should have swapped jho for artest..

[monosylab1k]

should have swapped jho for artest..

:bang

the Mavericks are such a joke of a franchise.

[Shank]

should have swapped jho for artest..

Hell, why jump at the best offer? As the NBA has proven recently, it's completely possible to pawn off your shit for an All-Star. I'm waiting patiently for that Eddie Jones/James Singleton trade for Lebron to go down. Should be any day now.

[confined]

Where the fuck is Donnie and why isnt he doing is job? Oh wait he is coaching the fucking Chinese national team...that sorry piece of shit

And why do we have to give up a shit load to get J-Kidd but everyone else in the league can acquire stud players by giving up absolute garbage

The trade for Kidd was different. Kidd had a huge contract and we needed to make the numbers work
But this artest bullshit is totally unreasonable :bang

[confined]

Oh and Josh Smith better be on this fucking team when training camp comes around or else Donnie Nelson should without a shadow of a doubt, be fired and then have the shit beat outta his fat ass