The Official Barry Fouled By Fisher Thread

[ipeefreely]

Spurs across the board never blame the refs.

Yea so why are all the wuss fans on here?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh

thats funny

wimps...your team is done, old and headed for the scrap yard...

[Dav|d $tern]

He pump faked and took a dribble. Fisher made contact when Barry was bringing his hands down. Just good defense with a bit of contact. Don't tell me that block to get Odom his 5th foul was really a foul on him.

[lefty]

Of course.

Pop doesn't want to sound like a whiner, unlike KFC.

Gregg Popovich is a Man; an idiot, but a man

[mowgli]

I love how Phil Jackson admits the no-call just to needle the Spurs one more time. If you think he's being gracious, please remember that the man's name is Phil Jackson.

[lakersownspurs]

First off, it shouldn't matter who the player is, a foul is a foul. Kobe didn't deserve the MVP, if you go by impact, it was Paul, by numbers, it was Lebron.

Yawn...:sleep

[ElNono]

No excuses guys. We lay an egg in the first half, with the terrible rebounding and the second chance points. That was the game.
Foul or not, we're not getting the game back. Gotta move on and get ready for the next game.

[Banzai]

crazy game

[timvp]

Both teams played hard.

[ducks]

no kidding
pop is so full of class

[lolz]

I just hate how fans bitch because players flop and then when brent is a man and doesnt flop he gets looked down on? so now laker fans are saying if hes smart he would have flopped. but had barry flopped you guys would be pissed and wouldve called the spurs flopping little bitches. fuck that shit. he didnt need to sell anything. he was clearly fouled.

None of that fucking matters. If it wasn't for the shot clock ref fuck up on the play before that, the Spurs wouldn't have even had that opportunity.

And yeah, we still think the Spurs are flopping little bitches. Now we know they can't flop right when it matters. :lol:lol:lol:lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Barry fucked up, as a spurs fan you should know you gotta sell a call. spurs were doing it all game. Barry should have never put the ball on the floor, it was a 2 shot foul, and Fisher's shot hit the rim. Lots of finger pointing to go around.

Which is it? If Manu falls down, he's flopping and shouldn't get the call.

If Barry doesn't flop, it was a foul, but he should have fallen down to get the call.

In short, fuck the Spurs, we want LA in the Finals so we can suck Kobe's dick some more.

[jmill]

Derek Fishers shot hit the rim.

Should have been a new 24 clock and 2 FTs. Spurs NEVER should have been in that position in the first place.

Period.

[2centsworth]

refs just evening out thier mistake of not reseting the shotclock on fishers shot
atleast you admit it was a foul.

[watertorture]

The MVP only gets 6 FT attempts in 4 games. if you have gripes about that non-call on the clear foul, just think about that sentence over and over.

Yeah. He's MVP. Let's just send him to the line for no reason. He's earned it.

[200 miles]

the next idiotic troll and then on who claims that the Spurs have all the calls and have the refs bail them out in close games can keep claiming that..........

















WHILE GOING TO HELL AND BURNING THERE FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!!!!

[Ludovician]

Fuck you Tim Legler.

[cobbler]

BECAUSE HE WAS FOULED, DAMMIT. I'm pissed.

YES YES YES YES it was a foul and a no call. It was not shooting because Barry dribbled after the contact. If they dont blow the call when fish's ball hit the rim, you never even get the chance.

Your own player, Barry just said "THATS NOT GOING TO GET CALLED"

Stop your whining and get ready for game 5 or go become Suns whiners and conspiricy theorists.

[mystargtr34]

Ah STFU just face the fact the Spurs got outplayed ad outhustled all fucking night long...

We didnt deserve to win the game... and the Lakers did.

[whottt]

Barry fucked up, as a spurs fan you should know you gotta sell a call. spurs were doing it all game. Barry should have never put the ball on the floor, it was a 2 shot foul, and Fisher's shot hit the rim. Lots of finger pointing to go around.



Fucking idiot if Barry sells the foul but doesn't get the call the game is over. He was trying to get the shot off becuase he didn't trust the refs to call a foul.

And he was right...they weren't going to.

All that happens if he sells it is he doesn't get the actual shot off.



Corruption...


They delberately didn't call that foul. It's the most deliberate act of not calling an obvious foul in NBA history.



I want to see the Lakers VS Lakers - David Stern.


He puts Joey Crawford as the ref on this game.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

this is a pretty defining moment for the league - it has been a lot of conspiracy theoring around regarding a possible lakers-celtics match-up

Shit is slowly shaping up that way. You have the spurs, lets give them a game every other day so we fuck them up. Let's give them 4 days for no reason between game 6 and 7 of the previous series.

Its a defining moment. I can safely say just talking by myself only that if the spurs arent in the finals im not going to watch them. I wasn't any way before, with this less.

[som3on3_10]

Pop has always been a classy coach. Never making excuses, props to your coach!

[lakersownspurs]

None of that fucking matters. If it wasn't for the shot clock ref fuck up on the play before that, the Spurs wouldn't have even had that opportunity.


They can't hear you. They are blinded by rage!!!:rollin

[ballhog]

Fisher himself thought it was a foul. He walked away saying " I just about made the biggest fuckup of my life".

[Purple & Gold]

I just hate how fans bitch because players flop and then when brent is a man and doesnt flop he gets looked down on? so now laker fans are saying if hes smart he would have flopped. but had barry flopped you guys would be pissed and wouldve called the spurs flopping little bitches. fuck that shit. he didnt need to sell anything. he was clearly fouled.

No Laker fans are saying he should have jumped into Fisher when he was in the air instead of dribbling the ball. Big difference.

[jmill]

Derek Fishers shot hit the rim.

Should have been a new 24 clock and 2 FTs. Spurs NEVER should have been in that position in the first place.

Period.

+1

[CharlieMac]

Guess the Spurs have packed it in for the summer then.

Oh the Spurs got their shit pack in alright. Thanks Stern!

[Ludovician]

Even if Fisher's shot did hit the rim, its a reasonable mistake for the refs to make. That's just a horrid no-call at the end of the game.

[1Parker1]

THIS pisses me off even more than the fucking non-call.

EVERY SINGLE SPURS PLAYER defending the call!!! WTF? Pop, Barry, Tony all say it was a non call and no foul. Even fuckin Phil Jackson admited it was a foul (after which he proceeded to state about 5 non-calls that went the Lakers way :rolleyes)

[jokyfo]

:sleep:sleep:sleep:whine:lol:hat:king:bkingThe San Anphonio Sterns ahve been getting help from the NBA refs for years. You are not true champs, you are phony champs.

HOWS IT FEEL LOSERS?

:p::nope:blah:rollin:p::ihit

[BiZNicK]

Just jump into the person with the ball, perfect defense. :toast

[Slinkyman]

It's the lakers and celtics, it was determined when the playoffs started. The NBA is a business and needs to make money, period.

[cecil collins]

Barry fucked up, as a spurs fan you should know you gotta sell a call. spurs were doing it all game. Barry should have never put the ball on the floor, it was a 2 shot foul, and Fisher's shot hit the rim. Lots of finger pointing to go around.

Sure it helps, but it shouldn't be necessary, especially on a play like that. I hate the pump fake jump into the contact move, and that's the only thing I don't like about Ginobili's game.

[pinocchiobli]

You people are pathetic...at home in the wcf's...you don't let it come down to that...you just don't......does a heavy weight let the fight go to the score cards??? no..you knock the challenger out. spurs didn't do that..they lost...they blew it..lakers kicked their arse all night long...they were lucky to even be in that position....calls went spurs way all night long..deal with it...root for your football,i mean baseball,i mechanical bull riding team and shuuuuuut up.....save your tears for your river walk cuz the san antonio drought is here....hey next year duncan can use his wheelchair when he travels to dunk the ball:lobt2:

i had to register on this second rate board just to tell you dipshits what is up.....say goodnight children

[lolz]

this is a pretty defining moment for the league - it has been a lot of conspiracy theoring around regarding a possible lakers-celtics match-up

Shit is slowly shaping up that way. You have the spurs, lets give them a game every other day so we fuck them up. Let's give them 4 days for no reason between game 6 and 7 of the previous series.

Its a defining moment. I can safely say just talking by myself only that if the spurs arent in the finals im not going to watch them. I wasn't any way before, with this less.



I hope you do boycott all Laker games. As if it'd fucking matter. :lmao

Moron.

[bresilhac]

The most glaringly obvious foul of the night and not one of those gutless, crooked, betting motherfuckers had the courage to make the right call. Gino's bad night notwithstanding this series should be tied right now. And the fakers are the best team in the conference? My ass! The fakers are fucking dogshit! Is this is how they expect to win a Title? What a goddamned laugh. I hope the Celtics fucking rape them. And for all of you Hollywood faggot/Laker fans that spew on this forum, I hope a severe earthquake hits LA tonight and kills every last one of you sorry motherfuckers. That's after the faker charter crashes into Las Vegas and wipes out all of the sonsabitches who bet on their sorry, lucky fucking asses. And I mean all of this from the bottom of my evil fucking heart.

[2centsworth]

YES YES YES YES it was a foul and a no call. It was not shooting because Barry dribbled after the contact. If they dont blow the call when fish's ball hit the rim, you never even get the chance.

Your own player, Barry just said "THATS NOT GOING TO GET CALLED"

Stop your whining and get ready for game 5 or go become Suns whiners and conspiricy theorists.

that's actually a pretty good post, probably by accident, but good nonetheless.

[lakersownspurs]

Its a defining moment. I can safely say just talking by myself only that if the spurs arent in the finals im not going to watch them. I wasn't any way before, with this less.

Good, the ratings won't need another 50 or so Spurs fans for the ratings anyhow.:lol

[dallaskd]

http://www.jedmed.com/assets/images/eye-patch.gif

[lolz]

It's the lakers and celtics, it was determined when the playoffs started. The NBA is a business and needs to make money, period.

If the league wanted a big time final, why would they allow the Spurs to win 4 championships? Their ratings killers.

[Purple & Gold]

Which is it? If Manu falls down, he's flopping and shouldn't get the call.

If Barry doesn't flop, it was a foul, but he should have fallen down to get the call.

In short, fuck the Spurs, we want LA in the Finals so we can suck Kobe's dick some more.

Selling a call is not flopping. Selling the call would be jumping into Fisher when he was in the air. That is not flopping. That's getting your man into the air and drawing the call. Big difference. Plus it would have been 3 FT's instead of 2. Barry fucked up.

[TheMACHINE]

I guess the refs were sick of bailing the spurs out all night.

[TexasLaker]

Brent Barry just said that that is never gonna be called. Besides Fisher's shot hit the rim, so the last two calls evened out. There are only conspiracies when the Spurs don't win it? The refs kept the Spurs in the game. Fisher and Odom were in foul trouble all night. Kobe has shot 6 FT's in four games.

Boom "A proper no call" "If I was an official I wouldn't have called that foul." Pop just said that.

Man up Spurs fans. The Lakers (without Bynum) are a better team.

[watertorture]

They can't hear you. They are blinded by rage!!!:rollin

A shot that might have grazed the rim and was easily missed by the ref is different than ignoring a clear foul.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I hope you do boycott all Laker games. As if it'd fucking matter. :lmao

Moron.

im going to dismiss you very soon.

[davemaniscool]

All of this doesn't matter. If this happened to the Lakers the responses here would be the same.

Maybe it should've been a noncall but if that contact was made against Kobe I guarantee he would have been on the line.

That's why everyone should really be pissed not whether the call should've been made.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

this is a pretty defining moment for the league

Not really. Not the first and definitely won't be the last game decided in this fashion.

The officiating sucked throughout the entire game and it's a disservice to both teams.

[yaicu2]

sasha >>>>>>>>>>>>> manu

Not even in your Peja dreams.

[crazylakerfan001]

at most it was a 2 ft foul onviously he wasnt in the act of shootin he driblled

[cobbler]

There you go. POP says "IT WAS A PROPER NON CALL, IF I WAS THE OFFICIAL I WOULD NOT HAVE CALLED THAT FOUL"

Deal with it!

[ShoogarBear]

THIS pisses me off even more than the fucking non-call.

EVERY SINGLE SPURS PLAYER defending the call!!! WTF? Pop, Barry, Tony all say it was a non call and no foul. Even fuckin Phil Jackson admited it was a foul (after which he proceeded to state about 5 non-calls that went the Lakers way :rolleyes)

Obviously they got together and made a decision before anyone got interviewed.

Now could you imagine what would have happened if it was the Lakers on the receiving end?

[Borosai]

So because Pop decides to do what he always does, and not cry about calls after a game, doesn't mean it wasn't a foul. It was a foul, and a rather obvious one at that. If the refs don't want to call it, that's their mistake.

Obviously, the Spurs didn't lose the game on that single play, but don't tell me that 2-3 free throws in that situation wouldn't have made a hell of a difference. Anyway, the Spurs didn't come out to play with the required intensity, and that no-call b.s. just adds to the sting.

[whottt]

Every time the Lakers are attempting a 3 in the game 5 the Spurs need to jump on the player...

It's not a foul.


They have to sell it for it to be a foul.


Just jump on the guy when they are shooting...that's all you gotta do.

[lolz]

All of this doesn't matter. If this happened to the Lakers the responses here would be the same.

Maybe it should've been a noncall but if that contact was made against Kobe I guarantee he would have been on the line.

How do you know that? Kobe attacked quite a few times and went to the freethrow line 0 times tonight.

[td4mvp21]

You Lakers fans can quit saying it wasn't a foul, because it was. Fortunately, that's not why your team won. They outplayed the Spurs. There's no harm in admitting it was a foul.

[ChickHearnMic]

Ahh come on this thread is bogus.

I could honestly say that this whole series the refs have been really relaxed on calling fouls for both sides.

An if they are calling fouls sometimes really ticky tack for Both sides again.

Even Coach Popp said if he was a ref he wouldn't have called a foul either.

In all fairness , the Spurs had numerous amount of times to win this game.

Missed threes by Horry,Barry,and MANU which couldof took the momentum as the lead.

Yes we Lakers are looking pretty good going home up 3-1 but in these NBA playoffs (especially after that little run the SPurs:ihit put up after the two missed Gasol free throws), I think it is safe to say nothing is a for sure thing

[Fabbs]

Derek Fishers shot hit the rim.

Should have been a new 24 clock and 2 FTs. Spurs NEVER should have been in that position in the first place.

Period.
Gasol had Horrys arm completely pinned. Only reason why Horry did not get a hand on the rebound. Foul on Gasol all the way.
Either way its Spurs ball.

[TexasLaker]

Brent Barry just said that that is never gonna be called. Besides Fisher's shot hit the rim, so the last two calls evened out. You guys are pathetic. So there are only conspiracies when the Spurs don't win it? The refs kept the Spurs in the game. Fisher and Odom were in foul trouble all night. Kobe has shot 6 FT's in four games.

Boom "A proper no call" "If I was an official I wouldn't have called that foul." Pop just said that.

Man up Spurs fans. The Lakers (without Bynum) are a better team.

[lakersownspurs]

Even if Fisher's shot did hit the rim, its a reasonable mistake for the refs to make. That's just a horrid no-call at the end of the game.

Oh COOL!!! Now we get to justify what is right and what is wrong!!! YAY!!!:lmao

[KillerBee]

Barry fucked up, as a spurs fan you should know you gotta sell a call. spurs were doing it all game. Barry should have never put the ball on the floor, it was a 2 shot foul, and Fisher's shot hit the rim. Lots of finger pointing to go around.

Couple things here, 1, With out Barry, you are not in the position to tie or win in the end. And 2, 'sell' the Foul...your such a fucking spurs fan!

It was a foul, period.

[TheMACHINE]

atleast you admit it was a foul.

it was a foul...but so was a bunch of other fouls that wernt called during the game.

[lolz]

im going to dismiss you very soon.

Zoh noes.

Dismiss the :lobt2: too. For a long time. Windows closed. :toast

[JamStone]

Notice Pop's words carefully.

"If I was the official."

If Pop was the official, he would be Joey Crawford. He Pop were Joey Crawford, he wouldn't call that a foul either because he'd be a dirty official with a vendetta against the Spurs.

Read between the lines.

[Zero Point Four]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

[davemaniscool]

A basketball rationalization I wish would get flushed in the toilet is "He didn't sell the foul". Either a player is fouled or he isn't. There aren't degrees of fouling.

[cobbler]

that's actually a pretty good post, probably by accident, but good nonetheless.

I try to call it like i see it regardless of who im rooting for so it's no accident.

It was a good game... see you guys thur.

[cecil collins]

YES YES YES YES it was a foul and a no call. It was not shooting because Barry dribbled after the contact. If they dont blow the call when fish's ball hit the rim, you never even get the chance.

Your own player, Barry just said "THATS NOT GOING TO GET CALLED"

Stop your whining and get ready for game 5 or go become Suns whiners and conspiricy theorists.

That's not how he felt right after a douchebag landed on him. They had to have discussed how to handle the media in the locker room.

[Purple & Gold]

Sure it helps, but it shouldn't be necessary, especially on a play like that. I hate the pump fake jump into the contact move, and that's the only thing I don't like about Ginobili's game.

It was a foul. 2 shot foul. But Fisher's shot hit the rim so it's a non story to me.

[Slinkyman]

If the league wanted a big time final, why would they allow the Spurs to win 4 championships? Their ratings killers.

They tried to stop us, believe me. KG going to boston and Pao going to LA were set up by Stern and the NBA so that they'd have an easier time fixing the outcome.

[timmydidit]

I guess the refs were sick of bailing the spurs out all night.

are you dumb. if this is true why stop on a blatant foul in a series defining 2 second possession

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Yes, it was a foul.

No, nothing will change, no matter how much anyone whinges about it.

Move on.

PS And once again we get fucked by D Fisher. Can we sign him for next year? :lmao

[Mr.Franchize]

tim duncan travel -2 points fishers shot hit rim new 24 = game over. stop crying and barry dribled after the foul so thats only 2 freethrows

[DazedAndConfused]

Quit whining.

Derek Fisher's shot hit the rim.

[lolz]

Notice Pop's words carefully.

"If I was the official."

If Pop was the official, he would be Joey Crawford. He Pop were Joey Crawford, he wouldn't call that a foul either because he'd be a dirty official with a vendetta against the Spurs.

Read between the lines.


Nice try but it wasn't Joey Crawford.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Not really. Not the first and definitely won't be the last game decided in this fashion.

The officiating sucked throughout the entire game and it's a disservice to both teams.

Just wait until you guys get stolen in similar fashion, then come back and let me know how you feel.

[2centsworth]

Notice Pop's words carefully.

"If I was the official."

If Pop was the official, he would be Joey Crawford. He Pop were Joey Crawford, he wouldn't call that a foul either because he'd be a dirty official with a vendetta against the Spurs.

Read between the lines.

extremely freakin perceptive.

[Ludovician]

Quit whining.

Derek Fisher's shot hit the rim.

Honest mistake versus horrendous no-call.

[yaicu2]

Yeah, call sucked, but so did our rebounding all night long down to the very end. Laker Boards won that game. Good night, and I'm going to dream that we can pull this shit out in 7.

[jmill]

Gasol had Horrys arm completely pinned. Only reason why Horry did not get a hand on the rebound. Foul on Gasol all the way.
Either way its Spurs ball.

Nah.

I appreciate you guys shooting 40% though.

[kevinwiz]

It's the lakers and celtics, it was determined when the playoffs started. The NBA is a business and needs to make money, period.

OR they were the best two teams? ever thought of that?

[1Parker1]

Obviously they got together and made a decision before anyone got interviewed.

Now could you imagine what would have happened if it was the Lakers on the receiving end?

I know they did, but sometimes they need to fuckin man up. There's a reason shit like this continues to happen to them every other year. :pctoss

Why doesn't this shit ever happen to a Phil Jackson coached team? Kobe would have gotten the call. And if he hadn't, u'd be damn sure he'd be screaming and hollering postgame and you'd be sure the refs/league would do something about it.

[CharlieMac]

Where does all this, "You're not gonna get that call at the end of a game" talk come from.

2006 Dirk strongly disagrees.

[lolz]

They tried to stop us, believe me. KG going to boston and Pao going to LA were set up by Stern and the NBA so that they'd have an easier time fixing the outcome.

Yeah they waited that long while the Spurs killed the ratings every single year they went to the finals? Please.

Every team thinks the league is after them. :lol

[blackmamba]

Wow as much as i dislike the spurs i feel for every spur fan out there. ive been heatbroken many times as a mav fan. i know what it feels like. this ones gotta bite. kobe was a little bitch in his post game interview. fuck that shit. go spurs in 7. make that little bitch cry in front of his worshipers.

AWWW.. a Mavs fan.. hey maybe you and some of these Spurs fans can cry on each others shoulders. The only thing the Mavs will ever win was last years MVP, and well deserved... they gave the MVP to Dirk Nowitzki who got bounced in the first round in one of the greatest upsets in nba history.. :lmao

Keep hating on the Lakers you will never have a :lobt: :nope

And change your avatar.. Lil' Wayne is gayer than the Spurs..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

Yeah, um, okay, except I've watched it 10 times and he took 2 steps. Are you blind?

[cecil collins]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

I think it's right after the David Stern took Kobe to the prom thread.

[TheMACHINE]

Odoms block was clean....Fishers shot hit the rim...lets call it even ;)

[T Park]

I got turned down for the 55th straight time tonight, so i am gonna troll here cause I have no life.

[jmill]

lol, so they blow a call against the Lakers and it's fine, but they miss a call against the Spurs and OMG ITS NOT FAIR.

Kobe averaged 16 FTs a game against Utah, shot 0 tonight. Wow

[1Parker1]

Every time the Lakers are attempting a 3 in the game 5 the Spurs need to jump on the player...

It's not a foul.


They have to sell it for it to be a foul.


Just jump on the guy when they are shooting...that's all you gotta do.

:lmao That's actually not a bad idea....

[jmill]

And that goaltending call on Odom was awful.

[TDMVPDPOY]

crawford looms

[2centsworth]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

2 1/2, but that's standard for Kobe.

[lolz]

I think it's right after the David Stern took Kobe to the prom thread.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[lakersownspurs]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

Umm, that would be a shuffle your feet AND THEN 3 step dunk no call!! :lol

[cobbler]

A shot that might have grazed the rim and was easily missed by the ref is different than ignoring a clear foul.

How so? There is correct and not correct. Both wer not correct.

[SCSnare]

1) Brent was fouled. Should've been called.

2) Fisher's shot hit the rim. Should've reset the shot clock.

3) That goaltending on Odom was correctly called, but also should've been an and 1.

Such a frustrating loss. Thank God for Brent Barry. Without him tonight, we wouldn't have stood a chance.

I still believe, but this is the hardest challenge the Spurs have faced in a long time. Go Spurs Go!

[OC Lakerfan]

The most glaringly obvious foul of the night and not one of those gutless, crooked, betting motherfuckers had the courage to make the right call. Gino's bad night notwithstanding this series should be tied right now. And the fakers are the best team in the conference? My ass! The fakers are fucking dogshit! Is this is how they expect to win a Title? What a goddamned laugh. I hope the Celtics fucking rape them. And for all of you Hollywood faggot/Laker fans that spew on this forum, I hope a severe earthquake hits LA tonight and kills every last one of you sorry motherfuckers. That's after the faker charter crashes into Las Vegas and wipes out all of the sonsabitches who bet on their sorry, lucky fucking asses. And I mean all of this from the bottom of my evil fucking heart.

Spurs are classy, seems like not all their fans follow suit. You need a timeout.

[1Parker1]

Notice Pop's words carefully.

"If I was the official."

If Pop was the official, he would be Joey Crawford. He Pop were Joey Crawford, he wouldn't call that a foul either because he'd be a dirty official with a vendetta against the Spurs.

Read between the lines.

:lmao Man, even Pistons fans are picking up on CIA Pop.

[ShoogarBear]

I know they did, but sometimes they need to fuckin man up. There's a reason shit like this continues to happen to them every other year. :pctoss

Why doesn't this shit ever happen to a Phil Jackson coached team? Kobe would have gotten the call. And if he hadn't, u'd be damn sure he'd be screaming and hollering postgame and you'd be sure the refs/league would do something about it.

If the refs had made a no-call like that against Kobe, Stern would order a replay. Nothing is going to stop his wet dream.

[Don_In_Redondo]

It should have been a two-shot, non-shooting foul, as Barry did not even begin his shot attempt until well after it happened.

So yes, you can have the foul; just give back the Duncan FOUR-STEP layup in the first half. Assuming Barry makes the free throws, it's still a two-point Lakers victory.

:lobt2:

[lolz]

2 1/2, but that's standard for Kobe.

Talking out of your ass. That was a travel. But I'm glad we played hard enough to negate it. Unlike some faggots :toast

[Purple & Gold]

I know they did, but sometimes they need to fuckin man up. There's a reason shit like this continues to happen to them every other year. :pctoss

Why doesn't this shit ever happen to a Phil Jackson coached team? Kobe would have gotten the call. And if he hadn't, u'd be damn sure he'd be screaming and hollering postgame and you'd be sure the refs/league would do something about it.

Kobe got zero FT's tonight. So I'm not sure he would have gotten that call.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Just wait until you guys get stolen in similar fashion, then come back and let me know how you feel.


Ever hear of the phantom foul on Laimbeer?

It happens.

[200 miles]

hey jokyfo, follow these fun instructions:

1. put your head back in your ass where it belongs
2. drop dead
3. go to hell and stay there (you should have fun there, enjoy)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hey, where's the Tim Duncan three-step-dunk thread?

Probably got merged with the Kobe three step travel 4-5 times a game thread.

[Mikeyjr88]

It really doesn't matter. We had several oppurtunities to take the lead. We blew out. Even if the foul was called, Barry wouldn't have shot three.


However, its not over until its over. I still believe.:lobt:

[honestfool84]

gif?

[watertorture]

It was a foul. 2 shot foul. But Fisher's shot hit the rim so it's a non story to me.

So glad to hear you don't mind being handed a win.

[lakersownspurs]

Spurs are classy, seems like not all their fans follow suit. You need a timeout.

Yes, the players and coach are very classy.:bking The fans?....

[Lebowski Brickowski]

There you go. POP says "IT WAS A PROPER NON CALL, IF I WAS THE OFFICIAL I WOULD NOT HAVE CALLED THAT FOUL"

Deal with it!

This reaction is understandable from laker fan. You people have just never heard a coach with dignity, honor, and class before.

[CharlieMac]

Every time the Lakers are attempting a 3 in the game 5 the Spurs need to jump on the player...

It's not a foul.


They have to sell it for it to be a foul.


Just jump on the guy when they are shooting...that's all you gotta do.

I like your smile....

[2centsworth]

It was a foul. 2 shot foul. But Fisher's shot hit the rim so it's a non story to me.

you're overlooking how Tony was fouled on the Lamar goal tend. It should have been an and 1. Even resetting the clock makes it max 3 pts, but the way the lakers were clanking them FTs who knows. Nevertheless, you're not suppossed to get away with an apparent hip check when the game is on the line.

Since I'm not Suns fan, we'll see what happens thursday.

[1Parker1]

I will agree that the Spurs probably deserved to lose. They played like shit most of the game, Ginobili was a no show, they were getting outhustled and outcoached.

That being said, it just sucks that the game (and the Spurs season) came down to such a blatant no-call. :pctoss

[whottt]

Seriously...this wasn't a speed of the game call...

Fisher fucking jumped on him so he couldn't shoot. It was right there in the middle of the court for every one to see...

You can't fucking jump on a dude when he's taking a shot...that's bullfucking shit.


Weak...

LakerFans are so corrupt it's sickening...


What fucking deceitful filth they are. They root for rapists, they cheer blatantly corrupt calls...

Filth.

[2centsworth]

Kobe got zero FT's tonight. So I'm not sure he would have gotten that call.


Kobe attacked the Rim a total of 4 times and got calls, but not shooting. Kobe has settled for jumpers which is the spurs strategy.

[DoWork]

lol

[Pistons < Spurs]

Alright I've calmed down. And I now have to reverse my initial thoughts.

Looking at the replays, it does appear that Fishers shot hit the rim, and the final play we saw should never have happened.

The no-call didn't determine the game.

Rebounding. Manu the Invisible Ghost. Poor Shooting. Those are valid reasons for losing this one, but the last play isn't.

Drop the whole conspiracy theory garbage. Suck it up and get ready for game 5. Hopefully the close finish inspires the Spurs.

[lakersownspurs]

This reaction is understandable from laker fan. You people have just never heard a coach with dignity, honor, and class before.


I'll give you that one. PJ is one back stabbing SOB!!!!:ihit

[cly2tw]

As much as I hate the Spurs, it was a foul by Fisher, but without Barry being in shooting motion. That's probably why the refs let it go, for calling it might not have helped the Spurs at all in case Barry's ensuing 3 had gone in.

Besides, the goal-tending call in the previous Parker layup was iffy at best. So, the refs had nothing to do with the game outcome.

[cecil collins]

lol, so they blow a call against the Lakers and it's fine, but they miss a call against the Spurs and OMG ITS NOT FAIR.

Kobe averaged 16 FTs a game against Utah, shot 0 tonight. Wow

Why does everyone bring this up like Kobe should be guaranteed doube digit FT attempts? They see a foul, you go to the line. Sure, over the course of a series shit should be somewhat even, but there are too many variables to act like that statement alone is a good argument.

[whottt]

I hope baelinebum and slayermin have moved out by the time the big Quake flushes that sewer.

[spursrook]

Foul gets called.. barry makes both free throws we def win in overtime at home..

game 5 the FAKERS are so upset we steal one from them at home and take it back to SA to finish the series..

I highly doubt either east team would have a shot vs us with the confidence we'd be riding after being near dead and then coming back winning tonights game and then the series!!

I am sooooooooo pissed!!

1 freaking no call just cost us a title

is there anyway we can protest the game.. this is beyond ridiculous and i will never watch NBA again.

[21_Blessings]

Kobe attacked the Rim a total of 4 times and got calls, but not shooting. Kobe has settled for jumpers which is the spurs strategy.

bullshit. He was fouled in the act of shooting 5+ times tonight, no call.

Besides that, Barry shuffled his feet on the last play. Stop making fucking excuses for your sorry ass inferior team. Lakers are winning this in 5.

[Zero Point Four]

Reggie Miller: "Good no-call. He put the ball down on a dribble instead of shooting."

[pinocchiobli]

hey spur's fans quit yer bitching there is always next year..oh wait...never mind keep up yer bitching....

[1Parker1]

Besides, the goal-tending call in the previous Parker layup was iffy at best. So, the refs had nothing to do with the game outcome.

:lmao Even if that wasn't a goal tend, it should have been 2 FT's by Parker at the very least. Even stevens.

[TheMACHINE]

Probably got merged with the Kobe three step travel 4-5 times a game thread.

you must mean the Parker 4 step spin from the 3 point line thread.

[Mr.Franchize]

stfu u guys are lucky the refs kept u in the game first 3 quaters

[watertorture]

Alright I've calmed down. And I now have to reverse my initial thoughts.

Looking at the replays, it does appear that Fishers shot hit the rim, and the final play we saw should never have happened.

The no-call didn't determine the game.

Rebounding. Manu the Invisible Ghost. Poor Shooting. Those are valid reasons for losing this one, but the last play isn't.

Drop the whole conspiracy theory garbage. Suck it up and get ready for game 5. Hopefully the close finish inspires the Spurs.

There are always missed calls, both ways, this game included.

But Everyone saw Barry get clobbered at the buzzer, and not calling that obvious foul ended the game.

[whottt]

Alright I've calmed down. And I now have to reverse my initial thoughts.

Looking at the replays, it does appear that Fishers shot hit the rim, and the final play we saw should never have happened.

The no-call didn't determine the game.

It damn sure did dude...Barry could not get a good shot off because Derek Fisher jumped on him...and there was absolutely no doubt about it.




You can't jump on someone at the end of the game to stop them from shooting.



Are you saying this happens alot?


Are you saying players should be allowed to jump on players to prevent them from shooting?


That is what you are saying.


It should at least have to be a close foul...not a motherufucker jumping on someone to prevent them from shooting.



Fine...it's now ok to jump on players at the end of games and not expect a foul.

Noted.


That;s what you guys are saying. You can just jump on him...just flat out jump on them.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

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[The_Game]

:lmao Even if that wasn't a goal tend, it should have been 2 FT's by Parker at the very least. Even stevens.

idiot

odom didn't even touch parker....it was an obvious block.

[spursrook]

say it in my face you stupid bitch

[KillerBee]

Seriously...this wasn't a speed of the game call...

Fisher fucking jumped on him so he couldn't shoot. It was right there in the middle of the court for every one to see...

You can't fucking jump on a dude when he's taking a shot...that's bullfucking shit.


Weak...

LakerFans are so corrupt it's sickening...


What fucking deceitful filth they are. They root for rapists, they cheer blatantly corrupt calls...

Filth.

Spurs Fans, reading the post as an outsider now I have a suggestion. Most of y'all are fair and some very respectable. It's Douche Nuggets like this that made me hate y'all during our series. Y'all should tear this butt fucker up. What an idiot. He brings you down as a fan base. Get on your meds you little dick bastard or get some pussy. What a bitch!

[midgetonadonkey]

Fuck the no call. They should've pulled down some boards in the first half.

[T Park]

idiot

odom didn't even touch parker....it was an obvious block.

Idiot, it fucking wasn't.

[davemaniscool]

The other stupid comment I keep seeing is "The Lakers deserved to win because they clearly outplayed the Spurs". If that's the case why did the outcome come down to one play at the end? No genious insight here when it's buried by people talking out of their ass.

[efrem1]

Fisher...of all people. I hate the Lakers. Manu where were you tonight?

[Trainwreck2100]

Reggie Miller: "Good no-call. He put the ball down on a dribble instead of shooting."

Then call a foul on the floor and give him 2 fts. It was a foul but only Dwayne Wade would get that call

[watertorture]

Reggie Miller: "Good no-call. He put the ball down on a dribble instead of shooting."

Reggie has Waltonitis. The NBA allows fouls even when a player is not shooting.

[Purple & Gold]

Kobe attacked the Rim a total of 4 times and got calls, but not shooting. Kobe has settled for jumpers which is the spurs strategy.

I call bullshit on that one.

[Mr. Peabody]

It damn sure did dude...Barry could not get a good shot off because Derek Fisher jumped on him...and there was absolutely no doubt about it.




You can't jump on someone at the end of the game to stop them from shooting.



Are you saying this happens alot?


Are you saying players should be allowed to jump on players to prevent them from shooting?


That is what you are saying.


It should at least have to be a close foul...not a motherufucker jumping on someone to prevent them from shooting.



Fine...it's now ok to jump on players at the end of games and not expect a foul.

Noted.


That;s what you guys are saying. You can just jump on him...just flat out jump on them.

:lol:toast

[mexicanjunior]

Congrats on earning your asterik for 2008 Lakers...good luck against the Celtics\Pistons and finishing off a tainted year....

[Purple & Gold]

you're overlooking how Tony was fouled on the Lamar goal tend. It should have been an and 1. Even resetting the clock makes it max 3 pts, but the way the lakers were clanking them FTs who knows. Nevertheless, you're not suppossed to get away with an apparent hip check when the game is on the line.

Since I'm not Suns fan, we'll see what happens thursday.

Parker didn't get fouled. Now your just grasping at straws.

[CharlieMac]

I call bullshit on that one.

I'm gonna deny that call. Sorry.

[Medvedenko]

idiot

odom didn't even touch parker....it was an obvious block.

Yup...

LOL at the spur fans whining...there were a lot of egregious calls all night long.
:whine

I'm glad this gif was created in my name....very apropos....

[themachine2008]

wha wha wha fucking piece of shit spurs fans crying cause they fucking lost.

i love this no profanity filter. this site is a piece of shit. hahaha.

spurs fans are assholes.
spurs fans are fucking douche bags.
spurs are fucking flopping pieces of shits.

[Zero Point Four]

Yeah, um, okay, except I've watched it 10 times and he took 2 steps. Are you blind?

Nope. My eyesight's perfect.

He was running, and taking little half-steps. He caught the ball, took one more little half step, then two full-sized steps.

When you look at it for the eleventh time, you'll see what actually happened.

[Purple & Gold]

So glad to hear you don't mind being handed a win.

:blah :blah :blah :blah :blah

[mFFL03]

wow....quit crying...has one call lost the series for the spurs? no...just one game...

PLUS...

Pop says no foul, Kobe says no foul, Barry says no foul, Phil says no call, and so does everyone else.....

shut down this thread

[DazedAndConfused]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1325/picture5uf3.th.png (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture5uf3.png)

Lamar Odom with the clean block. Look guys, bad calls were made this entire game. The Lakers outplayed the Spurs and deserved to win.

[Bruno]

Bitching about this foul is just lame.

Refs, as every human beings, made mistakes. They made a mistake on that play but a game is 48min long and it wasn't the first of the night.

Thinking that they didn't call the foul on that play because of Stern or because Crawford hates SA makes no sense. If someone wanted to rigged the NBA, it would be done by refs giving a slight edge to Lakers during the 48 min because it is way more efficient and discreet.

Spurs lost this game. It is painful as hell but deal with that.
There are tons of reason why they did it.

[Pistons < Spurs]

It damn sure did dude...Barry could not get a good shot off because Derek Fisher jumped on him...and there was absolutely no doubt about it.




You can't jump on someone at the end of the game to stop them from shooting.



Are you saying this happens alot?


Are you saying players should be allowed to jump on players to prevent them from shooting?


That is what you are saying.


It should at least have to be a close foul...not a motherufucker jumping on someone to prevent them from shooting.



Fine...it's now ok to jump on players at the end of games and not expect a foul.

Noted.


That;s what you guys are saying. You can just jump on him...just flat out jump on them.

reading comprehension....

I said the play should have never occurred.

The clock should have reset on the other end. they'd have dribbled out the clock, or you'd have put them on the line. Either case, it'd be game over. Barry would have never had the ball in his hands.

[2centsworth]

Parker didn't get fouled. Now your just grasping at straws.


dude, the entire TNT cast just said it too. That was an and 1, but who cares. Brent should of had a chance to tie it from the line. BTW, I think it's 50/50 he sends it to OT. If the lakers were the better team, OT would have been no problem. Nevertheless, it's not the Lakers fault. They played well and deserved the win. Joey doesn't deserve a freakin job.

[AJ Golf]

OK, in reality the Spurs have a 3-1 lead, but officially the Lakers have the 3-1 ... thanks in no small part to Joey Freakin' Crawfish ...

As they are saying on NBA-TV and TNT, the Spurs are, and always have been, a class act.

NEWS FLASH POP --- Being classy isn't going to win the :lobt2:

Barry was fouled. There is no doubt. But, so was Parker on the earlier play, and so were players on either side.

What I'm waiting for is the FINE from the NBA to Phil Jackson for his comments to Craig Sager that the officials were the reason that the Spurs had closed the 14 point deficit. But it ain't gonna happen.

I love my San Antonio Spurs, and this being a season of breaking all the "traditions", they CAN win 3 straight to take the Western Conference ...

[SpursDynasty]

Pop and the Spurs could totally make a case out of this if they wanted to given it was a no call by Joey Crawford (who has no business refereeing a Spurs playoff game). But they appear to have a no complain policy as Barry and Pop both said there was no foul.

[1Parker1]

This is why I despise the NBA.

Yes, the Spurs probably shouldn't have even been in that position to get the ball back with 5.2 seconds left. Yes, there were plenty of bad calls gone both ways throughout the game that probably balanced out that last non-call.

But don't sit there and fucking tell me that if it was Dwayne Wade or Kobe Bryant taking that shot, they wouldn't have been at the FT line. You can debate it all you want, but referees look at the player and team and get biased. I've seen those players get fouls called for a lot less contact. Not only that, but I absolutely love how fucking TNT and ESPN are making this out to be a good call. I guarantee you that if that had been Kobe or DWade, they would be all over it. But because it happened to a 37 year old role player, he's not going to get the call and he has to sell it "extra" hard to the refs?

Makes ZERO sense to me.

[DazedAndConfused]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1325/picture5uf3.th.png (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture5uf3.png)

Clean block by Lamar.

[TheMACHINE]

Congrats on earning your asterik for 2008 Lakers...good luck against the Celtics\Pistons and finishing off a tainted year....


Thanks! :toast

[watertorture]

When you look at it for the eleventh time, you'll see what actually happened.

See that's the difference here.

If it would take the refs 11 times to see some iffy lay to make a call, it's a good no-call.

If the Everyone sees a foul and no one calls it, there's a problem.

[2centsworth]

Bitching about this foul is just lame.

Refs, as every human beings, made mistakes. They made a mistake on that play but a game is 48min long and it wasn't the first of the night.

Thinking that they didn't call the foul on that play because of Stern or because Crawford hates SA makes no sense. If someone wanted to rigged the NBA, it would be done by refs giving a slight edge to Lakers during the 48 min because it is way more efficient and discreet.

Spurs lost this game. It is painful as hell but deal with that.
There are tons of reason why they did it.

go back to bitching about how the lakers cheated and got Gasol you panzi ass.

Spurs got robbed at the end and you go running to the defense of the Lakers?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

it's funny listening to Faker fans trying to pretend like they dont know that their team is nothing without the favour of the refs.
:lol

NBA is the worst reffed sport in the world...... no wonder Stern is a rich man. I think the WWF is less predictable than the NBA when it comes to the WCF.

[KillerBee]

Foul gets called.. barry makes both free throws we def win in overtime at home..

game 5 the FAKERS are so upset we steal one from them at home and take it back to SA to finish the series..

I highly doubt either east team would have a shot vs us with the confidence we'd be riding after being near dead and then coming back winning tonights game and then the series!!

I am sooooooooo pissed!!

1 freaking no call just cost us a title

is there anyway we can protest the game.. this is beyond ridiculous and i will never watch NBA again.

Bad call, but you are being a little presumptuous. Ya didn't have a chance in this series. You are just going to lose quicker now.

[2centsworth]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1325/picture5uf3.th.png (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture5uf3.png)

Clean block by Lamar.

you are the biggest dumbass I've ever seen on this board. the ball touches the backboard first.

[Mamba24]

Well, Fisher did foul him on the last play but Fisher's shot on the previous possession hit the rim which means the Lakers should have had the ball with 5 seconds left after it went off Horry. Joey Crawford was overcompensating for throwing Duncan out last season and gave A LOT of calls in the Spurs favor. Duncan's dunk in the 2nd quarter was a blatant travel, I could go on and on.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

the bottom line is this - the foul was a foul - you are jumping on a dude, sitting in his neck so to not allow him to shoot. that is a foul, whether you call it or not that's a different game.

but that's a foul any place in the world. it was a savvy veteran play by derek "the chidren-eater" fisher - karma has will continue to catch with him.

[1Parker1]

And for the record, I do agree that the Spurs shouldn't have won this game. They didn't deserve to. All those missed opportunities when Kobe and company were clanking shots in the 4th quarter. All those missed defensive rebounds. Spurs didn't deserve to win.

But as a fan, I'd like to watch some fucking consistency in this league, and not just blind and blatant homerism by the refs. I'm tired of superstars getting the benefit of the call, always. Heck, I think that if that had been Ginobili instead of Barry he probably would have gotten the call.

[watertorture]

has one call lost the series for the spurs? no...just one game...


That one call and one game is the difference between a tied series and a 3-1 hole.

[Trainwreck2100]

Bitching about this foul is just lame.

Refs, as every human beings, made mistakes. They made a mistake on that play but a game is 48min long and it wasn't the first of the night.

Thinking that they didn't call the foul on that play because of Stern or because Crawford hates SA makes no sense. If someone wanted to rigged the NBA, it would be done by refs giving a slight edge to Lakers during the 48 min because it is way more efficient and discreet.

Spurs lost this game. It is painful as hell but deal with that.
There are tons of reason why they did it.

I agree with that it wasn't going to get called the fact that Crawford was there and it was an obvious foul (not one that would get called in that situation) should add to the shitstorm in the next two days, just cause it was crawford.

[gemfow]

I'm a lakers' fan and you guys are right, that was a foul without a doubt, he should have went to the line for two, not three free throws because when Fish came down on him, he wasn't shooting at that time.

Actually the refs missed two things, Lamar actually blocked Tony Parker's layup, he got it a second before it hit the backboard, that was not suppose to count like it did, the slo-mo showed it was a good block, so I guess you can say they cancelled each other out.

[mexicanjunior]

reading comprehension....

I said the play should have never occurred.

The clock should have reset on the other end. they'd have dribbled out the clock, or you'd have put them on the line. Either case, it'd be game over. Barry would have never had the ball in his hands.

Considering Horry was being held and no foul was call, it's hard to see that being even for an obvious no call on Barry...I guess the Lakers can finally get their asterik championship...

*

[akula488]

Barry didn't get the call. Kobe (one of the top 3 MVP candidates) got 6 FTA in 4 games. Yes, the REFS are fucked up both ways.
Sp*r fans have no excuses.

[DazedAndConfused]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

[lakersownspurs]

Idiot, it fucking wasn't.

It was a goaltend, remember???

[dallaskd]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1325/picture5uf3.th.png (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture5uf3.png)

Lamar Odom with the clean block. Look guys, bad calls were made this entire game. The Lakers outplayed the Spurs and deserved to win.

hah like that pic shows anything. it looks like hes getting mauled.

[JUUOT]

i was actually surprised but TSN the espn canadian tv called out the league saying officiating sucked and that this call was a travesti for the league. It is probably the first time i hear canadian media calling out something like this not related to hockey

[Mr. Peabody]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

Dude, do you have a picture of that block? I think it would really help your argument.

[aka_USAPA]

Pop didn't think it was not a foul. Barry didn't think it was a foul. The bitter fans are just looking for excuses.

[lakersownspurs]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

Because they are whining that their team will now lose the series in five games to a team WITHOUT Bynum!!!:lmao

[2centsworth]

there's not freakin astericks because it's not the Lakers Fault. Also, the Spurs had a freakin ton of other chances to win this game.

Nevertheless, the game deserved a shot at OT to decide once and for all. Instead stupid Joey Crawford decides to play God.

[The BBall HoBo]

I really didn't want to come out of lurkerdom but...are we seriously blaming this loss on that call? Seriously?

Take off your goggles fellow Spurs fans and see this loss for what it is. We sucked at rebounding tonight. Manu disappeared again. The shots weren't falling for us. We simply got outplayed...it NEVER should have come down to that call at the end. The fact is that we were at home and we should've taken care of business. We didn't. So let's move on, man up and get ready for game 5. And let's hope Manu shows up to Staples Center...

[watertorture]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

Because it's not true.

[Trainwreck2100]

Pop didn't think it was not a foul. Barry didn't think it was a foul. The bitter fans are just looking for excuses.

Spurs don't cry about the whistles to the media

[sabar]

Falling for a pump fake is good defense?
FALLING FOR A PUMP FAKE IS GOOD DEFENSE?

Of course TNT is going to say it's good, they get contracted by the NBA to show their games!

[ballhog]

It was going to be either a foul or a goaltend.

[1Parker1]

Pop didn't think it was not a foul. Barry didn't think it was a foul. The bitter fans are just looking for excuses.

:lmao You actually think the Spurs are like Phil Jackson and his whiny, bitchy teams? Pop is never, ever, ever going to call out publicly on something like that.

You can bet your ass privately though, he's going to send this tape and a letter to the league.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

I dont think they are. the rim I thnk it happened but need to watch it again - lamar blocked it but it was goaltending and +1.

people are more upset with other things like the changes in schedule that are very weird and have not benefited the spurs pretty much in the last 3 seasons.

now the last foul of course fuels that.

[gameFACE]

I love how Phil Jackson admits the no-call just to needle the Spurs one more time. If you think he's being gracious, please remember that the man's name is Phil Jackson.
Yeah, that was a nice little jab there, Philip.

I'm on the side of it being at least a 2 shot foul. I mean sometimes you have to scrap your way to a win. But i'm also not going to use it to excuse Manu's dogshit game or the Spurs getting outplayed by the Lakers in the clutch.

[Medvedenko]

I really didn't want to come out of lurkerdom but...are we seriously blaming this loss on that call? Seriously?

Take off your goggles fellow Spurs fans and see this loss for what it is. We sucked at rebounding tonight. Manu disappeared again. The shots weren't falling for us. We simply got outplayed...it NEVER should have come down to that call at the end. The fact is that we were at home and we should've taken care of business. We didn't. So let's move on, man up and get ready for game 5. And let's hope Manu shows up to Staples Center...

:toast

[2centsworth]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Lamar got a clean block and Fisher's shot hit the rim?

because you're a dumbass and don't know what you're talking about. Lamar hit the ball after it hit the backboard.

[watertorture]

Because they are whining that their team will now lose the series in five games to a team WITHOUT Bynum!!!:lmao

You guys don't have Bynum? Is being held in reserve until he's really needed? I thought he was injured?

I love the pre-emptive w/o Bynum excuse just in case you lose the series.

[WCFBaby]

Lakers dominated the boards and out hustled the spurs all night long. The ONLY thing that kept this game close was the refs sending the Spurs to the foul line all night long!

Like I've been saying...........Lakers in 5!

[lolz]

Rules state that the defender has his right to verticle space. FIsher jumped, then Barry dribbled into him and didn't attempt a shot. Barry then after the contact made a basketball move and shot the 3.

Correct call.

Though I'd bitch too if I was about to be eliminated.

[Still hope]

The truth is that we just got outplayed tonight. If we would have played our game we would not have been in that situation. As noted above, the Lakers should have had a fresh clock as Fisher's shot grazed the rim. Was that a foul by Fisher? Of course. Should it have been called? No. Pop and Barry both said the same thing in the press conference. If we start whining about calls that makes us look like Lakers fans. We just need to go to LA to steal a game back.

[Jayem]

lebron is laughing somewhere...
AwO7m-1T9DE

[aka_USAPA]

The Lakers figured out the Spurs. Take away Manu, and the Spurs start limping. What was suprising is how well Sasha played Manu defensively.

[lakersownspurs]

Because it's not true.

FISHER's shot DID hit the rim. Get a clue...

[Ludovician]

I really didn't want to come out of lurkerdom but...are we seriously blaming this loss on that call? Seriously?


Whatever. I thought the fans here blaming the Game 1 loss on the refs was garbage and said so numerous times, because those were borderline calls in the Lakers building after we had completely collapsed. But this was an unequivocal foul at home after we had done we had to do to get back in the game, no matter how horrid we had played prior.

[DazedAndConfused]

The fact is the Spurs got a TON of calls awarded to them in this game, especially in the 1st quarter. It was so bad Phil Jackson was calling them out in his in-game interview.

We can all agree that at the very least Fisher's shot HIT the rim, that would have most likely iced the game right there. Stop with the conspiracy bullshit, the Lakers outplayed the Spurs in this game and deserved the W.

[Zero Point Four]

Tim Duncan:

"You're not going to get that call. They're not going to make that call.

"I was hoping he'd go up through his arm when he did get him up in the air a little bit, but I think he took a dribble to the side trying to get a good look at it.

"He made the right play. He knows they aren't going to make that call. He's trying to get a good look at the basket - trying to get a clean shot off."



Hmmm. I wonder if Duncan is in on that NBA conspiracy to have the Lakers/Celtics in the Finals.

Or maybe you guys don't even respect your own team leader's opinion.

[Medvedenko]

:lmao You actually think the Spurs are like Phil Jackson and his whiny, bitchy teams? Pop is never, ever, ever going to call out publicly on something like that.

You can bet your ass privately though, he's going to send this tape and a letter to the league.

Maybe he can start a last shot of the game foul committee while he's at it.

Please, it was a foul, move on. The lakers won 3/4 games, they are the better team at this point.

[pinocchiobli]

it doesn't matter...you lost the game....enjoy the summer spurs
1.tony enjoy your hot wife untill she dumps you for sasha
2.manu enjoy picking your huge fucking nose
3.pop enjoy popping your zits
4.tim enjoy watching your lawen grow you boring son of a bitch
5.brent enjoy being shaggy's sunt double in the next scooby doo movie
6.oberto enjoy those cool san fransico night
7.horry enjoy your discount at the buffet
8.finley enjoy finding another team to try and win a championship with....bandwagoning arse hole (we'll trade you candace parker)
7. matt bonner tell fonzi to sit on it

[IllegalAmigo]

http://www.lakersbrethren.net/files/Playoffs/SpursFishHushFan_Lmao.jpg

[Trainwreck2100]

Rules state that the defender has his right to verticle space. FIsher jumped, then Barry dribbled into him and didn't attempt a shot. Barry then after the contact made a basketball move and shot the 3.

Fisher didn't jump straight up, and that's all he's entitled to.

[2centsworth]

Because they are whining that their team will now lose the series in five games to a team WITHOUT Bynum!!!:lmao

No one is playing the Injury excuse. Manu is dinged, but we're fully aware the Lakers have their fair share of injury problems.

Spurs fan have good reason to be pissed the game ended the way it did. The game should have had a chance to go to OT, where usually the best team wins and by the looks of it tonight LA was the better team, but we will never know for sure until Thursday.

[TheMACHINE]

o well...refs were pissed at the spurs for not takig advantage of the SO MANY calls that favored the spurs all night.

[akula488]

i think majority of people would agree it should have been a foul. there is no argument here. However, Just BECAUSE the REFS blew up ONE SINGLE CALL didn't mean they are fixing the series either. There were bad calls either way tonight.

[DieMrBond]

That Was a Foul!
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-32-237/That-Was-a-Foul-.html
May 28, 2008 12:33 AM


OK, there, big ol' NBA, let's be honest: You were on notice. No funny business! We have had our referee scandal, we have been accused of fixing games, and we have promised that such things would never never never no not ever happen again.

You bounced back pretty nicely. But you promised transparency. You talked about a sacred trust.

And in that context, with everyone and their brother suspecting that the League would prefer to have the ratings monster Lakers in the Finals, and with a notorious anti-Spur referee assigned to the game, how can a key Western Conference final game end like this?

Laker Derek Fisher left his feet, and landed hard into Spur Brent Barry. The Spurs were down two and time was running out. That's a foul in my pickup game. That's a foul in high school. That's a foul in college. And, at just about every moment of NBA basketball that I have ever seen except this one, that's a foul in the NBA.

That just simply must be called a foul, if nothing else to allay the fears that the League may be fixing up the Finals for big ratings.

I actually do not think that the NBA is rigged (if it was the shot clock would have been reset on the play before, when Derek Fisher's shot appeared to touch the rim). But a lot of people do, and that's a problem. The way to solve that problem is to be scrupulously fair, which this was not.

And when mistakes are made, I think fans are owed a clear and honest explanation, complete with, when necessary, a swift admission that an error was made. Is that too much to ask?

And then, do me one last little favor: Look us in the eye, and tell us just one more time that the sport we love is not rigged.

TrueHoops Henry Abbott is not a Spurs fan. And he posted this.

[Medvedenko]

Rules state that the defender has his right to verticle space. FIsher jumped, then Barry dribbled into him and didn't attempt a shot. Barry then after the contact made a basketball move and shot the 3.

Correct call.

Though I'd bitch too if I was about to be eliminated.


:toast

[Trainwreck2100]

Tim Duncan:

"You're not going to get that call. They're not going to make that call.

"I was hoping he'd go up through his arm when he did get him up in the air a little bit, but I think he took a dribble to the side trying to get a good look at it.

"He made the right play. He knows they aren't going to make that call. He's trying to get a good look at the basket - trying to get a clean shot off."




Hmmm. I wonder if Duncan is in on that NBA conspiracy to have the Lakers/Celtics in the Finals.

Or maybe you guys don't even respect your own team leader's opinion.

So you acknowledge it was a foul then?

[lakersownspurs]

Whatever. I thought the fans here blaming the Game 1 loss on the refs was garbage and said so numerous times, because those were borderline calls in the Lakers building after we had completely collapsed. But this was an unequivocal foul at home after we had done we had to do to get back in the game, no matter how horrid we had played prior.

Both teams got bad calls in the end. The Lakers would have won either way, though. :rolleyes

[lolz]

The game should have had a chance to go to OT.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that if wasn't for the shot clock fuck up, the Spurs would have never had the opportunity they had.

[Ludovician]

The fact is the Spurs got a TON of calls awarded to them in this game, especially in the 1st quarter. It was so bad Phil Jackson was calling them out in his in-game interview.


Which was some of the most classless bullshit I have ever seen. What did he have to say after Game 6 vs. Sacramento?

[lolz]

TrueHoops Henry Abbott is not a Spurs fan. And he posted this.

OH so that's why his right? :lol:lol:lol:lol

[2centsworth]

The fact is the Spurs got a TON of calls awarded to them in this game, especially in the 1st quarter. It was so bad Phil Jackson was calling them out in his in-game interview.

We can all agree that at the very least Fisher's shot HIT the rim, that would have most likely iced the game right there. Stop with the conspiracy bullshit, the Lakers outplayed the Spurs in this game and deserved the W.

nobody is saying the Lakers didn't deserve it, but the Spurs win those types of games such as game 1 against the Suns. The Suns were better for 3/4 of the game also. Nevertheless, the best team will win Thursday. If LA wins then I'm at peace with this loss.

[ballhog]

The fact is the Spurs got a TON of calls awarded to them in this game, especially in the 1st quarter. It was so bad Phil Jackson was calling them out in his in-game interview.

We can all agree that at the very least Fisher's shot HIT the rim, that would have most likely iced the game right there. Stop with the conspiracy bullshit, the Lakers outplayed the Spurs in this game and deserved the W.

That's because Phil is whiney little douche. Pop was not complaining. I have yet to see a replay where it hit the rim. Homer glasses working.

[rAm]

It doesn't matter that the Spurs didn't deserve to win that game. The Lakers didn't deserve to win game 1 if that's the case.

The fact is, Kobe messed up and allowed us to get within 2. In the 4th quarter they called ticky tack fouls in favor of Odom, and then as a slap in the face they get Fisher get away with murder. AGAIN.

I am surprised that little bitch didn't run off the court again shitting his pants. There is nothing we can do, and once again another Laker series is going to haunt me for the next 5 years.

[aka_USAPA]

it doesn't matter...you lost the game....enjoy the summer spurs
1.tony enjoy your hot wife untill she dumps you for sasha
2.manu enjoy picking your huge fucking nose
3.pop enjoy popping your zits
4.tim enjoy watching your lawen grow you boring son of a bitch
5.brent enjoy being shaggy's sunt double in the next scooby doo movie
6.oberto enjoy those cool san fransico night
7.horry enjoy your discount at the buffet
8.finley enjoy finding another team to try and win a championship with....bandwagoning arse hole (we'll trade you candace parker)
7. matt bonner tell fonzi to sit on it

This is the kind of post by a Laker fan that makes me embarrassed to be one.

[lakersownspurs]

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that if wasn't for the shot clock fuck up, the Spurs would have never had the opportunity they had.

They can't see that. Blinded by rage like I said before...

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The fact is the Spurs got a TON of calls awarded to them in this game, especially in the 1st quarter. It was so bad Phil Jackson was calling them out in his in-game interview.

We can all agree that at the very least Fisher's shot HIT the rim, that would have most likely iced the game right there. Stop with the conspiracy bullshit, the Lakers outplayed the Spurs in this game and deserved the W.

I called BS on that thing PJ said - the spurs got back in the game with the 3 by barry and the layup off the steal by parker. PJ says something and then he tries to change perception of reality. He's the closest thing I've seen in sports to Goebbels.

[IllegalAmigo]

http://www.lakersbrethren.net/UtardFun/CryBabyClr.gif

[Budkin]

Man I keep watching that play over and over again... what a bunch of bullshit on the no call! :pctoss

[akula488]

lebron is laughing somewhere...
AwO7m-1T9DE

bingo. EVEN the golden boy Lebron James couldn't get a call in a similar situation at his home court. Why in the world would Brent Freaking Barry gets a call?

[ballhog]

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that if wasn't for the shot clock fuck up, the Spurs would have never had the opportunity they had.

You're not a Spurs fan, asshat.

[cobbler]

you are the biggest dumbass I've ever seen on this board. the ball touches the backboard first.

Actually, If you go back and replay it as i have, he hits the ball just prior to it hitting the backboard. Go watch it and decide for yourself and then reconsider who the dumbass is. Take a mirror with you!

[lakersownspurs]

This is the kind of post by a Laker fan that makes me embarrassed to be one.


Yes, that 12 year old needs to be in bed...:nope

[DazedAndConfused]

The bottomline is Derek Fisher's shot HIT the rim and I will have video evidence of it for you all to see. Lakers probably push the lead up to 3-4 pts and win the game. It all balanced out in the end. Quit whining.

[rAm]

o well...refs were pissed at the spurs for not takig advantage of the SO MANY calls that favored the spurs all night.

I am sure that's EXACTLY what happened! Fucking retard.

[The BBall HoBo]

Whatever. I thought the fans here blaming the Game 1 loss on the refs was garbage and said so numerous times, because those were borderline calls in the Lakers building after we had completely collapsed. But this was an unequivocal foul at home after we had done we had to do to get back in the game, no matter how horrid we had played prior.

The game was called horribly, I'll give you that. My point is that to put this loss squarely on that no-call would be giving this team too much credit. I'm actually more pissed at the way they played tonight than at that call at the end. They completely laid an egg at home against a Lakers team that is both for real and has a perfect record at home. Manu was nowhere to be found, again. We gave them second chances time after time again. Just poor play all around...inexcusable.

[lolz]

You're not a Spurs fan, asshat.

Fuck no I'm not a Spurs fan.

What's your point asshat?

[Budkin]

Rules state that the defender has his right to verticle space. FIsher jumped, then Barry dribbled into him and didn't attempt a shot. Barry then after the contact made a basketball move and shot the 3.

Correct call.

Though I'd bitch too if I was about to be eliminated.

Utter failure. It was a foul.

[2centsworth]

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that if wasn't for the shot clock fuck up, the Spurs would have never had the opportunity they had.

we can't argue prior plays, because Tony totally deserved an and 1 the previous play. All we have is the OBVIOUS FOUL down the stretch.

OT would have settled the game properly, but Joey is God in his mind and he decides how games should end. Whatever, this is nothing a victory Thursday can't cure.

[watertorture]

http://www.lakersbrethren.net/UtardFun/CryBabyClr.gif

Is that Kobe after we actually won 4 games against you guys?

[DieMrBond]

OH so that's why his right? :lol:lol:lol:lol

No, i was prefacing it by saying hes not a spurs homer. I didnt say he was right, i was just posting.

As timvp/rasheed would say - both teams played hard.

[lolz]

Utter failure. It was a foul.

Nice response fucktard, really disproved what I said.

Utter fail.

[Budkin]

The bottomline is Derek Fisher's shot HIT the rim and I will have video evidence of it for you all to see. Lakers probably push the lead up to 3-4 pts and win the game. It all balanced out in the end. Quit whining.

Excuse me but nothing can ever balance out 0.4. There aren't enough make up calls in the universe.

[2centsworth]

The bottomline is Derek Fisher's shot HIT the rim and I will have video evidence of it for you all to see. Lakers probably push the lead up to 3-4 pts and win the game. It all balanced out in the end. Quit whining.

They should have been up by 1 with a chance to take it to 3. With the way they were choking at the line, we're left to wonder.

[lolz]

we can't argue prior plays, because Tony totally deserved an and 1 the previous play. All we have is the OBVIOUS FOUL down the stretch.

What? Who decided that rule? We can't discuss any plays other than the last play?

I don't see where that came from.

[lakersownspurs]

we can't argue prior plays, because Tony totally deserved an and 1 the previous play. All we have is the OBVIOUS FOUL down the stretch.

OT would have settled the game properly, but Joey is God in his mind and he decides how games should end. Whatever, this is nothing a victory Thursday can't cure.

Yes we can. We can argue all the previous plays the refs screwed up.

Oh, and you will get owned on Thursday...:ihit

[cobbler]

This is the kind of post by a Laker fan that makes me embarrassed to be one.

I with you on that as well. Embarrassing! I am sure there are a lot of objective spurs fans here who are equally embarrassed by thier fellow jerks too. Sad.

[AJ Golf]

Doesn't everybody understand that this is nothing but an entertainment business? Yes, I am fucking pissed just like the rest of the Spurs and other REAL BASKETBALL FANS, but unfortunately what is normally the kiss of death for a team (being the league MVP) doesn't seem to matter this year. It killed the Hornets having the Coach of the Year.

Robert Horry played like complete shit. This is the first time in his career that he hasn't come through in the playoffs.

Brent Barry was awesome, and should have been in more than Manu.

Duncan was timid way too much again.

Parker couldn't buy a good shot.

Fab wasn't fab.

Finley didn't have the rythem.

and so on and so on.

I believe that just like how they can review a shot clock violation at the end of the quarter/game, they should be able to review a play like this. Even if no ref made a call. It appears that they would only review if one of the officials made a call, and decide if it's valid. In this instance, no call made probably would not result in a review, unless made mandatory. Fisher almost took off Barry's head --- it's that fucking obvious!

I would love to see the Spurs to win 3 straight, but unless there is some sort of miracle, the Spurs are robbed again by the Lakers and it just SUCKS!

But, the Western Finals need to go to 7 games just to make sure that whoever plays in the NBA Finals, they are just as tired as the Eastern Champs, because that series is going 7 ...

:bang

[lolz]

bingo. EVEN the golden boy Lebron James couldn't get a call in a similar situation at his home court. Why in the world would Brent Freaking Barry gets a call?

[IllegalAmigo]

Is that Kobe after we actually won 4 games against you guys?


http://www.lakersbrethren.net/UtardFun/itch.gif

[lakersownspurs]

Excuse me but nothing can ever balance out 0.4. There aren't enough make up calls in the universe.

What? You still don't think that shot was legit? Sad...:lmao

[lolz]

lebron is laughing somewhere...
AwO7m-1T9DE

[2centsworth]

What? Who decided that rule? We can't discuss any plays other than the last play?

I don't see where that came from.

Because that argument is endless. The game obvioulsy boiled down to one last play. The Game deserved to be decided in OT if, and a BIG freakin IF in my book, Barry makes two to tie.

[WCFBaby]

This is fucking hilarious!!! GREAT post pinocchiobli!!

Originally Posted by pinocchiobli

it doesn't matter...you lost the game....enjoy the summer spurs
1.tony enjoy your hot wife untill she dumps you for sasha
2.manu enjoy picking your huge fucking nose
3.pop enjoy popping your zits
4.tim enjoy watching your lawen grow you boring son of a bitch
5.brent enjoy being shaggy's sunt double in the next scooby doo movie
6.oberto enjoy those cool san fransico night
7.horry enjoy your discount at the buffet
8.finley enjoy finding another team to try and win a championship with....bandwagoning arse hole (we'll trade you candace parker)
7. matt bonner tell fonzi to sit on it

[kobyz]

about the lebron shot: the ref do him a faver with the no call, tha spurs was up 3 and the foul was a 2 shot foul so they give him possibility 3 point shot that was much more better for the cavs

[Still hope]

The more we whine the more we are sinking down to their level. I for one do not want to be known as a whiny Spurs fan. We had the opportunities we just did not put it together. Manu needs to pull his head out if we hold out any hope to win this series. BTW there were terrible calls all night. Let's not forget Timmy somehow dunking the ball without a dribble though he received it from the top of the key.

[watertorture]

http://www.lakersbrethren.net/UtardFun/itch.gif

I bet you wouldn't call that a foul either.