The Official Barry Fouled By Fisher Thread

[whottt]

The Lakers aren't even going to the honeymoon phase this time around...they'll be the most hated team in hte NBA again by the end of this summer...

[Trainwreck2100]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2091/barrygs3.gif

[WCFBaby]

just leave already motherfucker... :nope

I'll leave when you say "The Black Mamba is our Daddy":p:

[DazedAndConfused]

As I said, there is a difference between missed call and a bad call

Missed calls result when a ref is incapable of making a call because of his/her inability see the play.

A bad call results when a ref doesn't call something when he/she did in fact see the play, but for whatever reason fails to call the play the correct way .

You can't have it both ways. You can't give the refs a free pass for two missed calls that clearly benefited your team then rip them for a no-call against you.

The bottomline is the Spurs were only in this game because of the refs. The 1st quarter was a travesty of reffing and if you go back and rewatch it you will agree. The Lakers should have been up 15-20 pts at the end of the 1st quarter.

[DazedAndConfused]

Bottomline

Lakers are outplaying the Spurs and deserve to be up 3-1.

[WCFBaby]

I don't give a fuck about that...I don't give a fuck about who the refs favored or how many bad calls there were in the game...


I give a fuck about the fact that a player was allowd to jump on a player taking a game winning shot and prevent him from shooting...

Do you really want the NBA to start calling games like that?

Of course you don't, you just want the win...so stop excusing it and stop defending it...you only make yourself look worse. Get out of the sewer.

You need medication.

[BiggDirty01]

Wow, how do the biggest benefactors of whining and cheap calls have the balls (oops, they dont) to stand up and honestly think they deserved a call on that last play?

I mean, after the blatant travels and bullshit hacks on Kobe and Lamar's drives and you want 3-free throws on a foul, that if at all occured on the floor. You guys are FUCKING LAME.

When you used to lose, it was because the other team was better (ala '01, '02,'03, '04). Everyone knows 99 counts as much as my first pubic hair.

So shut the fuck up, accept that you've gone over the hill (see Laker's '03), hope your GM has the balls and money to make some moves (like not giving away Scola to an interstate rival, which I can really see the Lakers ever doing with say, the Queens of Sacto) and hope Duncan, Ginosebleed and Pissy Parker are enough.

But take your whining about calls, no calls, winning and losing and shove them up where Tim Duncan likes Manu Ginobli's dick: His ASS

[rAm]

It was a normal fucking play that happens hundreds of times in the course of a year. Also, it's a judgement call and the refs can't be expected to see it at full speed. :ihit

Then what is your explanation for the "clean block".

You hypocritical son of a bitch

[the_franchise]

you spurs fans are idiots, the game was lost way before this play even took place. how can you cry about one play when you guys were getting away so many things it wasn't funny. i know you guys saw that travel by Duncan that wasn't called, that was just as blatant as Fisher's foul, but it wasn't called. stop all the bitching and crying about the play and tell your players to learn how to make a wide open shot to take the lead, you guys had several chances so don't blame this one on the refs, because the refs had nothing to do with your teams inability to make an open shot.

[rAm]

Bottomline

Lakers are outplaying the Spurs and deserve to be up 3-1.

I wouldn't say "deserve". 2 close games that could of gone either way, and 2 blowouts.

Funny how the Laker's got the benefit of favorable foul calls in the 4th quarters of both of the close games.

[Celtic_Pride]

Get over it and stop crying about calls and the refs. You sound like a Queens fan. The Spurs didn't lose because of one call. They put themselves in position to lose and the scoreboard shows it. They fought hard but were down too far to come all the way back, and the Lakers got stops when they needed them. That's the bottom line.

Dude are you still obsessing over your series with the Kings like frieken 6 years ago? Move on, seriously.

P.S. See you in Boston bitch.

[sa_butta]

The Barry foul was even more obvious than this...

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0605/nba_a_nowitzki_430.jpg

and that was at the end of a playoff game that changed the outcome.

[DazedAndConfused]

The refs had NOTHING to do with the Spurs inability to make wide open shots or grab rebounds. That is why you lost.

Looking to the refs as the problem is ignoring the problem.

[rAm]

you spurs fans are idiots, the game was lost way before this play even took place. how can you cry about one play when you guys were getting away so many things it wasn't funny. i know you guys saw that travel by Duncan that wasn't called, that was just as blatant as Fisher's foul, but it wasn't called. stop all the bitching and crying about the play and tell your players to learn how to make a wide open shot to take the lead, you guys had several chances so don't blame this one on the refs, because the refs had nothing to do with your teams inability to make an open shot.

A no call on a travel in the 2nd quarter is a lot different than a no call on a game-winning shot in the 4th.

[whottt]

Wow, how do the biggest benefactors of whining and cheap calls have the balls (oops, they dont) to stand up and honestly think they deserved a call on that last play?

I mean, after the blatant travels and bullshit hacks on Kobe and Lamar's drives and you want 3-free throws on a foul, that if at all occured on the floor. You guys are FUCKING LAME.

When you used to lose, it was because the other team was better (ala '01, '02,'03, '04). Everyone knows 99 counts as much as my first pubic hair.

So shut the fuck up, accept that you've gone over the hill (see Laker's '03), hope your GM has the balls and money to make some moves (like not giving away Scola to an interstate rival, which I can really see the Lakers ever doing with say, the Queens of Sacto) and hope Duncan, Ginosebleed and Pissy Parker are enough.

But take your whining about calls, no calls, winning and losing and shove them up where Tim Duncan likes Manu Ginobli's dick: His ASS


Welll...at least you have an almost perfect name for a Lakerfan...


Rapist loving corrupt piece of human shit would be better...but yours is a start.

Got any plans for what areas of your home town you will pillage if the Lakers win the title?

[rAm]

Respond to my posts you ignorant fucks.

You can make your arguments all day long, but when someone rebuts all of your claims you say nothing.

It's easy to spew, but not easy to clean up all that bullshit you are regurgitating.

[Primetime LA]

It Was A Foul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Not A Shooting A Foul And The Lakers Had A Foul To Give. So Barry Would Not Have Shot Free Throws.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

The refs had NOTHING to do with the Spurs inability to make wide open shots or grab rebounds. That is why you lost.

Looking to the refs as the problem is ignoring the problem.

Ignoring the fact that the refs didn't call the foul in the last second is ingorning the fact that there are exactly 48 minutes in a game and every second of every minute counts, even if it's the last two.

[ThriveForFive]

"Ignoring the fact that the refs didn't call the foul in the last second is ingorning the fact that there are exactly 48 minutes in a game and every second of every minute counts, even if it's the last two."
Thank you. That's what I've been saying. People say we didn't deserve to win this game bacuase of our lack of effort early on. But the fact is we put ourselves in position to win the game. We executed on the final play and got fouled. Should've been shooting at least two free throws to tie the game.

[BiggDirty01]

Listen Mel, you filthy riverwalk worshipping Tool...

I was going to torch you and have a good laugh, but just seeing your seething, bitch attitude after such a delightful victory is enough stomping on the collective VAGINA that is the *purs franchise and fans.

Because everyone in LA is either a gangster, a fag, or an elitist right?

What else do you fuckers have going on besides your geriatric team? ANOTHER visit to the Alamo? OR lemme guess...the Riverwalk!

HAHAHA

Maybe the Lakers should plan the parade through San Antonio?

[mexicanjunior]

on the last play. Have you seen or heard anyone from the media agree with your travel assesment? Any links of audio or video of media proclaiming the travel occured? Just curious...

LOL...I guess not... :lol

[brespursfan20]

The game should have never come down to this shot, but he was definately fouled!!!! The Spurs should have won that game!!

[whottt]

Listen Mel, you filthy riverwalk worshipping Tool...

I was going to torch you and have a good laugh, but just seeing your seething, bitch attitude after such a delightful victory is enough stomping on the collective VAGINA that is the *purs franchise and fans.

Because everyone in LA is either a gangster, a fag, or an elitist right?

What else do you fuckers have going on besides your geriatric team? ANOTHER visit to the Alamo? OR lemme guess...the Riverwalk!

HAHAHA

Maybe the Lakers should plan the parade through San Antonio?




LA is the reason Usama wants to nuke us...

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Lakers should just stop bringing up the fact that Fisher's shot hit the rim, and Odom's shot was a goaltend. These are hard calls for the refs to make. They don't have replay like we do. That's why they're missed all the time. It's a part of the game. It happens in every game. It's a human fallabilty issue - humans can't see everything that goes on on the court, obviously. Fisher's non call foul, on the other hand, was an obvious call, evidenced by the fact that this particular foul is called 99% of the time. It's a sure thing. The refs saw it - all of it - but they didn't call it, and not because they didn't see. Why? Who the fuck knows why the didn't call it.

[DazedAndConfused]

The Lakers are a better team than the Spurs.

[WCFBaby]

Then what is your explanation for the "clean block".

You hypocritical son of a bitch

1. You totally missed the reason for that post (it was based on a post above).

2. You look awful young to be going bald (if that is you in that pic)

[rAm]

The Lakers are a better team than the Spurs.

lawl

[imtehma]

Face it Spurs fans, even your own players said it was a good no call.

Pop, Barry, Duncan. IF they can accept it, you shouLd TOoOooo.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

The Lakers are a better team than the Spurs.

I agree with this, but it should have been an upset.

[rAm]

1. You totally missed the reason for that post (it was based on a post above).

2. You look awful young to be going bald (if that is you in that pic)

What reason did I miss?

You said you can't expect refs to make perfect decisions because the play is too fast.

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR POINT? you are just contradicting your other 10 posts about how Odom's block was clean.

You are right. How are these 80 year old fucking refs supposed to keep up with all of these young strapping black animals running up and down the court, let alone see what the fuck is happening with their cataracts having eyes.

[WCFBaby]

Welll...at least you have an almost perfect name for a Lakerfan...


Rapist loving corrupt piece of human shit would be better...but yours is a start.

Got any plans for what areas of your home town you will pillage if the Lakers win the title?

Dude, stop.....right now...and go take your meds.

Actually, in Corona Del Mar there is no pillaging so I'm not worried.

[Mr.Franchize]

john barry just said that it wasnt a foul.on mike and mike in the morning

[WCFBaby]

Respond to my posts you ignorant fucks.

You can make your arguments all day long, but when someone rebuts all of your claims you say nothing.

It's easy to spew, but not easy to clean up all that bullshit you are regurgitating.

LOL at the bitter lil spurs bitches!

[BiggDirty01]

If LA is the reason, then Usama must be a *purs fan.

So now the question is, why aren't the *purs on America's side? WTF? Are you patriotic? Your team must be un American...

(Just giving it to you the way your infallible former governor would characterize it)

You guys really are short on brain power...fucking retards

[urunobili]

Dude, stop.....right now...and go take your meds.

Actually, in Corona Del Mar there is no pillaging so I'm not worried.

who da fuck r u to tell any Spurs fan on this board to stop?

[rAm]

LOL at the bitter lil spurs bitches!

LOL at Laker fans taking pride in winning series' off of bullshit.

[WCFBaby]

LA is the reason Usama wants to nuke us...

Usama? Really? You are a fucking dolt!

[Mr.Franchize]

LOL at Laker fans taking pride in winning series' off of bullshit.

lol at the fact that we will have the last laugh. :toast

[rAm]

lol at the fact that we will have the last laugh. :toast

As you usually do. Until you go and get raped by the pistons.

[WCFBaby]

What reason did I miss?

You said you can't expect refs to make perfect decisions because the play is too fast.

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR POINT? you are just contradicting your other 10 posts about how Odom's block was clean.

You are right. How are these 80 year old fucking refs supposed to keep up with all of these young strapping black animals running up and down the court, let alone see what the fuck is happening with their cataracts having eyes.

Have you looked in to Hair Club For Men?

[mexicanjunior]

lol at the fact that we will have the last laugh. :toast

Actually, the East will and we will laugh with them... :lol

[WCFBaby]

who da fuck r u to tell any Spurs fan on this board to stop?

Because this is now LAKERS CHAT you loser!

[WCFBaby]

LOL at Laker fans taking pride in winning series' off of bullshit.

WHINE ON YOU BITCH!

[KOBES81]

Game over. Move on.
http://picturebook.chattablogs.com/archives/images/06_02_11.jpg

[Mr.Franchize]

Actually, the East will and we will laugh with them... :lol

your gona be laughing on your :fishing boat

[rAm]

Have you looked in to Hair Club For Men?

Tell me where I need hair club for men. Oh, and then answer my question.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6000/n201301444308615975482wa8.jpg

[Budkin]

Hubie Brown was just on ESPN radio ripping the refs for swallowing their whistles on that call. Should have been a two shot foul since it put them over the limit.

[mexicanjunior]

your gona be laughing on your :fishing boat

You will be right there with us come mid June as the East hold up the trophy... :fishing

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't get why it's so hard to admit that it was a foul. It was a foul, they just didn't call it, nothing to see here, move along

[Ronaldo McDonald]

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[whottt]

Hubie Brown was just on ESPN radio ripping the refs for swallowing their whistles on that call. Should have been a two shot foul since it put them over the limit.




That's the whole point, and why Lakerfans are scumbags...they act like it wasn't a blown call and is par for the course for NBA games.


It was the most blatantly blown call in NBA history. And Laker fan is either too stupid to see it(very possible), or too much of a corrupt POS to admit it(more possible).


Like I said...I don't expect them to want to give the win back or even be sorry the won...but they act like it was a routine play...

That's why I have zero respect for them...that's why they are scum.

[BiggDirty01]

Hey rAM,

That pic of you eating the hollywood sign looks awfully suspicious?

You sure you weren't in WEST Hollywood? You look awfully comfortable with your mouth open like that.

I guess if you are a fan of a team that specializes in that sort of thing, you might as well follow the teams lead.

Fuck off!

[noichuyenspurs]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.

[WCFBaby]

Hey rAM,

That pic of you eating the hollywood sign looks awfully suspicious?

You sure you weren't in WEST Hollywood? You look awfully comfortable with your mouth open like that.

I guess if you are a fan of a team that specializes in that sort of thing, you might as well follow the teams lead.

Fuck off!

Exactly! Then, he posts another pic of himself on his knees!

[rAm]

Hey rAM,

That pic of you eating the hollywood sign looks awfully suspicious?

You sure you weren't in WEST Hollywood? You look awfully comfortable with your mouth open like that.

I guess if you are a fan of a team that specializes in that sort of thing, you might as well follow the teams lead.

Fuck off!

Actually, I live in WEST hollywood. Just because our cities colors are the rainbow and gays live up and down my street doesn't make me gay. It also doesn't change the fact that your team continues to get away with murder in every series against the spurs.

[MarceloM!]

How much paid the refs "no decision" on Barry fouled? some suggestion?

[rAm]

Exactly! Then, he posts another pic of himself on his knees!

yea, I am sucking ground penis.

[LakeShow]

It is particularly annoying to listen to people whine about things that are beyond their ability to control, especially when the events are in the past and already have been dealt with.


The worst of this special breed are the conspiracy theorists who keep gnawing on the bones of everything from the alleged Roswell aliens to the grassy knoll. To those groups, it appears we are going to have to add a new bunch who are going to whine from now until the end of time.

Taken from Whine of the week!

[Trainwreck2100]

was it a foul or was it not a foul?

[WCFBaby]

Just heard Hall Of Famer Dr. Jack Ramsey on espn radio say that the body contact...in the context of the play...did not warrant any foul call whatsoever. He also went on to say that the refs missed a few other calls in the last two minutes that worked to the advantage of the spurs.

THAT from a HOF coach! Move along spurs fans.......nothing more for you to see here other than the destruction of your team in game 5.

[urunobili]

Exactly! Then, he posts another pic of himself on his knees!

i have one of your mother on her knees... :toast

[WCFBaby]

How much paid the refs "no decision" on Barry fouled? some suggestion?

What the fuck did you just say? Can I get a decoder with that post?

[BiggDirty01]

rAM,

Wow, you living in WHo leaves me without a solid comeback. It is just that funny in itself.

Getting away with murder eh? Like the league MVP attempting 2 free throws TOTAL in 2 games despite repeatedly getting to the basket on your vaunted "D". You shoot 9 more f-throws, get away with blatant travel calls all game long, push in the back on almost all of our Defensive boards and never get T'd up for whining more then my puppy when she had to sleep in a cage at night.

So FUCK you and all of your whining. Hating on us because you havent beaten us in a series since '03 and your lame consideration of a "dynasty" is as dead as Tim Duncans personality.

GET over the officiating you little pussies or switch leagues. You'd fit in great in the actual bitch league, WNBA

[Don_In_Redondo]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.

A voice of reason.

What I find funny here is the defending of the officials on those "hard-to-see" items such as Duncan's bunny-hop-in-the-pea-patch, Ginobili's feet on the line when he made his "trey," Fisher's shot touching the rim (hence resetting the shot clock with :05.2 left), and Barry's footwork before any contact with Fish -- but, oh my, "the Fisher decapitation" (which might have qualified him for a technical foul only AFTER the traveling).... So selective!

By the way, that Sasha Vujacic video is a scream.

[ducks]

Barry's production made up for Manu's production.

Just blame the rebounding.

no it did not
had manu got those points
the crowd would have been louder
manu would have got the lakers in more foul trouble

manu does not get off that easy for his 3 no show in this series

[DazedAndConfused]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.

[Trainwreck2100]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.


ok laker fan

[Ronaldo McDonald]

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[mexicanjunior]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.

Does that mean the Bryant travel at the top of the key before Horry's out of bounds would have been called? How about Horry being held by Gasol on that rebound?

[rAm]

rAM,

Wow, you living in WHo leaves me without a solid comeback. It is just that funny in itself.

Getting away with murder eh? Like the league MVP attempting 2 free throws TOTAL in 2 games despite repeatedly getting to the basket on your vaunted "D". You shoot 9 more f-throws, get away with blatant travel calls all game long, push in the back on almost all of our Defensive boards and never get T'd up for whining more then my puppy when she had to sleep in a cage at night.

So FUCK you and all of your whining. Hating on us because you havent beaten us in a series since '03 and your lame consideration of a "dynasty" is as dead as Tim Duncans personality.

GET over the officiating you little pussies or switch leagues. You'd fit in great in the actual bitch league, WNBA

WHo is actually a really nice place, probably better than Glendale or wherever the fuck you live.

That Kobe excuse is bullshit. The spurs don't foul as much as other teams because they play good defense. Kobe's free throw shooting is the reason why the Utah series was so easy for you.

I don't think half of the Spurs fans really care about being considered a "dynasty" by Laker fans who can't get over the fact that their dynasty was yesteryear. The fact remains that the Spurs have won 4 titles, and have been one "foul" or one "cheap ass shot" from 3 4 or 5 peating. Especially considering our team is never over the Luxury Tax, and we have a stingy ass owner.

San Antonio is a small town, competing with the empire that is Los Angeles. It's not your fault that most of your fans are girls who like the Lakers because Luke Walton is cute, and I quote "They are sooo graceful when they play".

Where were all you fuckers the past 2 years? Thats right, smoking PCP in your rat ass house.

[WCFBaby]

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bitter

[BiggDirty01]

LOL:

'The fact remains that the Spurs have won 4 titles, and have been one "foul" or one "cheap ass shot" from 3 4 or 5 peating. Especially considering our team is never over the Luxury Tax, and we have a stingy ass owner.'

Sounds like another EXCUSE

LOL @ Glendale.

Try Marina Del Rey and Tarzana

[rAm]

Tarzana lawl, I would rather live next to gays than persians.

[WCFBaby]

WHo is actually a really nice place, probably better than Glendale or wherever the fuck you live.

That Kobe excuse is bullshit. The spurs don't foul as much as other teams because they play good defense. Kobe's free throw shooting is the reason why the Utah series was so easy for you.

I don't think half of the Spurs fans really care about being considered a "dynasty" by Laker fans who can't get over the fact that their dynasty was yesteryear. The fact remains that the Spurs have won 4 titles, and have been one "foul" or one "cheap ass shot" from 3 4 or 5 peating. Especially considering our team is never over the Luxury Tax, and we have a stingy ass owner.

San Antonio is a small town, competing with the empire that is Los Angeles. It's not your fault that most of your fans are girls who like the Lakers because Luke Walton is cute, and I quote "They are sooo graceful when they play".

Where were all you fuckers the past 2 years? Thats right, smoking PCP in your rat ass house.

I can no longer rip you because now I feel like I'm beating up on a woman.

[mexicanjunior]

bitter

Why wouldn't we be? Crawford sure did you boys a solid...have fun losing to the East...

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[rAm]

I can no longer rip you because now I feel like I'm beating up on a woman.

does that even make any sense? try and rip me. post some pictures of yourself you little bitch.

[WCFBaby]

Shouldn't you be out pushing a taco cart or something?

[Ronaldo McDonald]

To Spurs fans, especially to mexicanjunior, jaysmooth422, mateoneygro, ronaldo mcdonald, whott and rAm:

If the league inserted a "last minute of the game" video review to determine and ensure all correct calls were made, do you realize we still lost? Though I hate to admit it being a Spurs fan, Manu did step on the 3 point line, Odom did have a clean block and Brent did travel before he was fouled.

Asterisks? That only happens in fans mind but I haven't seen it placed on any Lakers or Spurs wins yet in the record books.


Lakers should just stop bringing up the fact that Fisher's shot hit the rim, and Odom's shot was a goaltend (and don't even try to bring up that Barry traveled when he did not). These are hard calls for the refs to make. For example, Pau Gasol knocked the ball out of Duncan's hands and it was called as an out-of-bounds on Duncan in a crucial play in game 1. But, they don't have replay like we do, so you have to just accept the fact that they can't get those right all the time and just excuse it. They're missed all the time. It's a part of the game. It happens in every game. It's a human fallabilty issue - humans can't see everything that goes on on the court, obviously. Fisher's non call foul, on the other hand, was an obvious call, evidenced by the fact that this particular foul is called 99% of the time. It's a sure thing. The refs saw it - all of it - but they didn't call it, and not because they didn't see. Why? Who the fuck knows why the didn't call it. But, you can't excuse it.

That's why:

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[WCFBaby]

does that even make any sense? try and rip me. post some pictures of yourself you little bitch.

Dudette, I've got nothing against you liking a stiff dick. I mean.......whatever floats your boat. But, I draw the line at providing you jackoff pics of myself.

[BiggDirty01]

rAM,

Just wanna make sure I got this right:

So you're a white power fag who hates people with dark skin?

Maybe someone can animate you into a cartoon because I just cant imagine a bigger douche actually existing in reality...

Of course a *purs fan out here lives in WeHo. Makes perfect sense actually... the *purs like it in the ass, so of course their fans....

[MadDog73]

Lakers should just stop bringing up the fact that Fisher's shot hit the rim, and Odom's shot was a goaltend (and don't even try to bring up that Barry traveled when he did not). These are hard calls for the refs to make. For example, Pau Gasol knocked the ball out of Duncan's hands and it was called as an out-of-bounds on Duncan in a crucial play in game 1. But, they don't have replay like we do, so you have to just accept the fact that they can't get those right all the time and just excuse it. They're missed all the time. It's a part of the game. It happens in every game. It's a human fallabilty issue - humans can't see everything that goes on on the court, obviously. Fisher's non call foul, on the other hand, was an obvious call, evidenced by the fact that this particular foul is called 99% of the time. It's a sure thing. The refs saw it - all of it - but they didn't call it, and not because they didn't see. Why? Who the fuck knows why the didn't call it. But, you can't excuse it.

That's why:

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Thank you for speaking the Truth.

I thought basketball fans have lost their mind, all saying the Spurs deserved to lose, that's why no foul was called.

WTF?? A foul is a foul. You can't decide NOT to call a foul "just because."

[SpursDynasty]

I think this thread should be closed.

Conclusion: We've heard all the reasons why the Spurs didn't deserve to win the game. We've heard about Odom's block/goal tend. We've heard about the shot clock that didn't re-set for the Lakers. The fact is, referees don't stop to think about all of that in the closing seconds of the game. Any neutral referee would think it's reasonable to react on the spot to that play and call a foul. The Spurs would've gotten 2 free throws, not 3. So it wouldn't have "cost" the Lakers the game.

But, Joey Crawford has altered our games before. So it's no surprise. And questionable calls or non-calls or shots don't get reviewed if it's the Lakers....

Close thread.

[cindyp601]

this thread has as much meaning as the 0.4 shot get over it already. the game is over! worry about the next one and whether or not the spurs can pull off another win i personally think its over for them but win or lose GO SPURS GO!!!

[WCFBaby]

Just heard Hall Of Famer Dr. Jack Ramsey on espn radio say that the body contact...in the context of the play...did not warrant any foul call whatsoever. He also went on to say that the refs missed a few other calls in the last two minutes that worked to the advantage of the spurs.

THAT from a HOF coach! Move along spurs fans.......nothing more for you to see here other than the destruction of your team in game 5.

:lobt2:

[mexicanjunior]

:lobt2:

Thanks for showing the East what it will look like as they raise it up come mid June...

[Don_In_Redondo]

this thread has as much meaning as the 0.4 shot get over it already. the game is over! worry about the next one and whether or not the spurs can pull off another win i personally think its over for them but win or lose GO SPURS GO!!!

Exactly.

I'd feel the same way if the shoe were on the other pivot foot and LAL was down 3-1. I wouldn't like their chances, but I'd pull for them -- as I have since 1968 -- nonetheless.

Every team has "bandwagoners." The Celtics, Pistons, Lakers and Spurs are the cream of the NBA. No one has it locked until there's 0:00.00 on that clock and win #4 is in the books. Kobe won't claim victory until that moment and neither would Duncan if he were up 3-1.

I'm sure none of them pays attention, but the Spurs and Lakers players themselves would be, at best, mildly amused by all of this conspiracy talk and armchair quarterbacking.

[WCFBaby]

Thanks for showing the East what it will look like as they raise it up come mid June...

Again, bitter.

THE BLACK MAMBA CAN NOT BE STOPPED!!!

[slimjim]

forget looking back at the tape and over-analyzing everything, because if that were the case, the lakers have a lot of ammo they can use in this debate. (odom's "goaltend", fisher shot clock reset)

let's talk about the travel first, as a lakers fan myself... I don't get why some of you other laker fans are moaning about the travel.

sit back and think about it...
when we all sat in front of the TV and saw it live.
no one was looking at barry's foot for a slight travel.
when did we spot the "maybe" travel?
on the replay in a slowed down video. (and even then it was debatable.)

no one saw the travel in real time.

so don't expect the refs to judge it as if they had a slowed down video right then and there.

[CP3]

Shut the hell up Spurs fans. The refs were helping yall all night long. Fisher's shot hit the rim the possession before. You should have never gotten the ball at all!

[Spurs Brazil]

1 - It was a foul

2 - Spurs lost because they played bad, especially on the boards, not because of the refs.

3 - Forget about this game. Win game 5

[Lakerman JSJ]

Hey guys, not here to troll or anything just have a quick question for those fans that are attaching an asterisk to this game:

Forgetting the fact that the Odom block on Parker was shown to be clean because Lamar got to the ball just before it hit glass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiZbtkBsyw), and also not mentioning that another missed call benefited the Spurs when the shot clock was not reset after Fisher's J hit the rim with approximately 5 seconds left...

...can we not agree as logical and knowledgeable basketball fans that Barry switched hit pivot foot just before any contact was made with Fisher?

http://i32.tinypic.com/8vvq4m.gif

The clear sequence of events goes as follows:

Catch. Step with the left foot. Step with the right foot. Dribble. Contact.

This call was quite prevalent all year when a player with the ball that isn't dribbling is anticipating contact (usually near the basket) that player has a habit of moving both feet (thus switching his pivot foot) just before contact is made. As you can see, Barry steps with his left, then the right, and THEN dribbles.

It's a travel.

[Emeyin]

The no call doesn't bother me as much really, since the play before that the Lakers shot the ball and it hit the rim but the shot clock didn't reset. If the refs called that the Spurs would have had to foul and wouldn't really have a chance for the win.

And yes the refs were very good to the Spurs throughout this game. I'm not going to deny that.

[reddog 99]

Brent Barry just said that that is never gonna be called. Besides Fisher's shot hit the rim, so the last two calls evened out. There are only conspiracies when the Spurs don't win it? The refs kept the Spurs in the game. Fisher and Odom were in foul trouble all night. Kobe has shot 6 FT's in four games.

Boom "A proper no call" "If I was an official I wouldn't have called that foul." Pop just said that.

Man up Spurs fans. The Lakers (without Bynum) are a better team.

LETS JUST SEE MORE PICTURES OF YOUR ASS AND NOT HEAR YOUR SPORT TAKES PLEASE.:p:

[SPURSfanINoc]

I'm a Spurs fan and I live in OC California. I can totally say that Lakers' fan are totally annoying as f**k.

Not until 2000, did all these other bangwagoners jumped on the Lakers. They have no class, just like their team.

I hate driving around seeing cars with that yellow and purple flag in the window.

[KHRIS]

I'm a Spurs fan and I live in OC California. I can totally say that Lakers' fan are totally annoying as f**k.

Not until 2000, did all these other bangwagoners jumped on the Lakers. They have no class, just like their team.

I hate driving around seeing cars with that yellow and purple flag in the window.

Calm down bangwagoner not all Lakers fans are like that.

[SPURSfanINoc]

Calm down bangwagoner not all Lakers fans are like that.

not all... but hell of a lot... i really wanna say, more than half of the lakers fan or bandwagon fans...

you live in la, please don't deny what i'm saying is not true...

[slayermin]

Van Gundy, Hubie Brown, and Avery Johnson all think that was a foul.

[the_franchise]

i'm from fresno, ca and i'm not on any bandwagon, i've been a lakers fan all of my life and i'm not a homer, i'm a realist. should there have been a call on fisher, maybe so, but that didn't decide the game. the spurs couldn't hit an open shot and were badly out rebounded and out hustled i will acknowledge the fact that there could've and probably should've been a foul call, but you spurs fans need to acknowledge the fact that the refs missed a lot of calls that favored you guys too even more so than the lakers.

[SPURSfanINoc]

i'm from fresno, ca and i'm not on any bandwagon, i've been a lakers fan all of my life and i'm not a homer, i'm a realist. should there have been a call on fisher, maybe so, but that didn't decide the game. the spurs couldn't hit an open shot and were badly out rebounded and out hustled i will acknowledge the fact that there could've and probably should've been a foul call, but you spurs fans need to acknowledge the fact that the refs missed a lot of calls that favored you guys too even more so than the lakers.

very true... spurs just got out hustled yesterday... bottomline is, they lost... there shouldn't be any excuses for giving up that many points off of offensive rebounds...

[bigfundamental21]

As a Spurs fan... it is time to just move on and focus on the next game. Enough talking about what did or didn't happen in the game. It's in the past and it can't be changed.

We all know that in basketball, things can go your way at times and at other times you get screwed. It's time to just focus on the fact that we gotta win three in a row to move on. It is a difficult task.... but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

GO SPURS GO!!!!!

BELIEVE!!!

[oversteerdawg]

Thanks for showing the East what it will look like as they raise it up come mid June...

Why do you keep bringing up the east? I thought you were a Spurs fan. How does the east winning benefit the Spurs?

[Lakers08Champs]

I'm sick of all these conspiracies crap...i'm mean, WTF?!?! All these theories are so ridiculous. Did the refs control the Spurs shooting 40% from the floor - missing so many wide open shots? The lakers kept the lead the whole way. We had a lot of control over the whole game, we were the better team. If you felt it was not fair, life is not fair, and we got screwed a few times earlier ourselves!! all i'm trying to saying is the Spurs blew Game #1 and that hangover has not let up and that's real talk!

[oversteerdawg]

forget looking back at the tape and over-analyzing everything, because if that were the case, the lakers have a lot of ammo they can use in this debate. (odom's "goaltend", fisher shot clock reset)

let's talk about the travel first, as a lakers fan myself... I don't get why some of you other laker fans are moaning about the travel.

sit back and think about it...
when we all sat in front of the TV and saw it live.
no one was looking at barry's foot for a slight travel.
when did we spot the "maybe" travel?
on the replay in a slowed down video. (and even then it was debatable.)

no one saw the travel in real time.

so don't expect the refs to judge it as if they had a slowed down video right then and there.

And that's why we're not PROFESSIONAL REFEREES IN HIGHEST TIER BASKETBALL LEAGUE IN THE WORLD DURING THE CONFERENCE FINALS. I'm not paid to do that, they are. I don't expect them to be able to do my job, so I shouldn't be expected to be able to do theirs.

[kolampanum2471617]

sigh.. why can't u ppl just admit that the lakers won despite that call, it was a fun game and very heart wrenching there were so many blown calls throughout the game,, and kobe not going to the line at all despite many fouls that mite have been called, at the end it all balanced out, and nobody,i mean NOBODY would call that, not in reg. season, and not in the playoffs, sorry spurs fans but the lakers took this one and will look to finish it off thursday

[oversteerdawg]

not all... but hell of a lot... i really wanna say, more than half of the lakers fan or bandwagon fans...

you live in la, please don't deny what i'm saying is not true...

Perhaps, but that's what happens in a LARGE MARKET like LA. We probably have more "real" fans than the Spurs just because of the sheer size of our fan base.

[kolampanum2471617]

not all... but hell of a lot... i really wanna say, more than half of the lakers fan or bandwagon fans...

you live in la, please don't deny what i'm saying is not true...


WHAT?? bandwagon?? what in the hell are you talking about?? even when we were rebuilding we had a packed house in the damn staples center, we've had sold out staples center from the first day staples opened, how can you say we're bandwagon fans with all the history the lakers have had, especially here in L.A, you just don't know and getting all pissed off cuz u guys gettin beat by a "soft" team

[Letigre]

Seriously...this wasn't a speed of the game call...

Fisher fucking jumped on him so he couldn't shoot. It was right there in the middle of the court for every one to see...

You can't fucking jump on a dude when he's taking a shot...that's bullfucking shit.


Weak...

LakerFans are so corrupt it's sickening...


What fucking deceitful filth they are. They root for rapists, they cheer blatantly corrupt calls...

Filth.
Ahhhh i love it, im actually watching you die!! hey did anybody take into consideration that the lakers arn't the ones that made the no call? It was the refs on your home court, so skip the Laker hate. if we're gonna get technical old Brent traveled before "the foul" good game though boys:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

Hey guys, not here to troll or anything just have a quick question for those fans that are attaching an asterisk to this game:

Forgetting the fact that the Odom block on Parker was shown to be clean because Lamar got to the ball just before it hit glass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiZbtkBsyw), and also not mentioning that another missed call benefited the Spurs when the shot clock was not reset after Fisher's J hit the rim with approximately 5 seconds left...

...can we not agree as logical and knowledgeable basketball fans that Barry switched hit pivot foot just before any contact was made with Fisher?

http://i32.tinypic.com/8vvq4m.gif

The clear sequence of events goes as follows:

Catch. Step with the left foot. Step with the right foot. Dribble. Contact.

This call was quite prevalent all year when a player with the ball that isn't dribbling is anticipating contact (usually near the basket) that player has a habit of moving both feet (thus switching his pivot foot) just before contact is made. As you can see, Barry steps with his left, then the right, and THEN dribbles.

It's a travel.

His left arm makes contact with fisher before he puts his right foot down
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2091/barrygs3.gif

[cobbler]

His left arm makes contact with fisher before he puts his right foot down

Then HOOK on Barry! :lmao:lmao

Just messing with you!

Time to let it go....it's over! Plan for game 5

[LakerLanny]

So now the Spurs know how every non-Laker team in the league feels when they play the ref-darling Spurs. It's an even year, guys. Not in the cards.

Good point.

These guys have relied on the officials to get the job done for them for so long now that they have simply lost all objectivity. Even a normally balanced poster like Timvp is posting nonsense.

Anyone who couldn't admit that SA was given call after call after call last night to even keep them close in the game is simply a deluded homer or an idiot. You choose which.

[Trainwreck2100]

Good point.

These guys have relied on the officials to get the job done for them for so long now that they have simply lost all objectivity. Even a normally balanced poster like Timvp is posting nonsense.

Anyone who couldn't admit that SA was given call after call after call last night to even keep them close in the game is simply a deluded homer or an idiot. You choose which.


How is it any different than you not admitting it was a foul.

[Letigre]

WHAT?? bandwagon?? what in the hell are you talking about?? even when we were rebuilding we had a packed house in the damn staples center, we've had sold out staples center from the first day staples opened, how can you say we're bandwagon fans with all the history the lakers have had, especially here in L.A, you just don't know and getting all pissed off cuz u guys gettin beat by a "soft" team

It's an old tradition of losing teams to dismiss LA fans as "bandwagon" i guess it makes them sleep better or something. They can't actually talk shit about our team so we're the next best thing.

[LakerLanny]

How is it any different than you not admitting it was a foul.

You can't commit a foul after a guy travels on the same play right?

[Lakers Dynasty]

Why don't you discuss this after reading Buck Harvey's column?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97231

Since the ratings for this series are so high, maybe we could ask Commissioner Stern to have the Lakers play seven games every series, no matter how many games they win.

Whaddayathink?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20080528/capt.cps.mof25.280508143626.photo02.photo.default-341x512.jpg?x=229&y=345&sig=.uGczXzEb0BHmPyW7G8FYg--

[Spurtacus]

Calm down bangwagoner not all Lakers fans are like that.

Not all, but definitely a lot more than Spurs fans.

[~~~~~~]

Lakers shouldn't have put themselves in a precarious position to potentially lose on the very last play of regulation. In the last 50.8 seconds of the game, Lakers were up by 7 with Gasol getting 2 free throws both of which he subsequently bricked. Had Gasol made those, the game would have been over. With about 35 seconds left in regulation and 17 on the shot clock, the Spurs still down by 4 after a Ginobili 3-pointer, Kobe made a bad decision taking an ill advised shot instead of running more time off the clock. Had the Lakers used up all the shot clock, it would have left 18 seconds in regulation and the Spurs needing 2 possessions to potentially tie/win, assuming they're still only down by 4.

Overall, the Lakers didn't finish the last minute of the game as they did the previous 3 quarters and it almost cost them game 4.

[Don_In_Redondo]

It's an old tradition of losing teams to dismiss LA fans as "bandwagon" i guess it makes them sleep better or something. They can't actually talk shit about our team so we're the next best thing.

Re: "Bandwagon." Speaking for myself, I attended my first NBA game at the then-two-year-old Inglewood Forum during the 1968-69 season. The Lakers played the San Diego Rockets. I still have the program. Elgin Baylor was nearing the end of his career and his knees were shot, but I got to see him play.
My dad and I used to go to six or seven games a year, straight up Prairie Avenue -- after the game lots of us would gather around Chick's booth as he did the postgame show.

I also recall attending a couple of L.A. Stars games (before they moved to Salt Lake). Seems there was a certain team called the Dallas Chaparrals that came into town. Were y'all fans back then, or have you jumped on the Spurms bandwagon more recently?

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2: for Minneapolis
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:: lobt2::lobt2: for L.A.

[Don_In_Redondo]

..of course I'm just havin' some fun. I'm sure a lot of folks here go back at least to Artis Gilmore and the Iceman. The point is, don't assume folks are on a "bandwagon" when you don't know.

[alon504]

So, let's see what Gerry V, the Hornets radio announcer, thinks about whether or not it was a foul (See Question # 1):

http://www.hornetsreport.com/HRForums/showthread.php?t=49718

[Trainwreck2100]

You can't commit a foul after a guy travels on the same play right?

contact was made before his foot hit the ground

[ballhog]

i'm from fresno, ca and i'm not on any bandwagon, i've been a lakers fan all of my life and i'm not a homer, i'm a realist. should there have been a call on fisher, maybe so, but that didn't decide the game. the spurs couldn't hit an open shot and were badly out rebounded and out hustled i will acknowledge the fact that there could've and probably should've been a foul call, but you spurs fans need to acknowledge the fact that the refs missed a lot of calls that favored you guys too even more so than the lakers.

Overall, the Lakers have a huge advantage in calls in the series and the playoffs. I'm sick of people saying "Kobe didn't shoot a single free throw". Hard to get fouled on fall-away jumpers and break-aways. Get real.

[DazedAndConfused]

It doesn't matter how good a defensive team you are. Kobe shooting 29 shots and getting 0 FTA is laughable. Kobe getting 1 FTA in 2 straight games is ridiculous.

[cobbler]

Overall, the Lakers have a huge advantage in calls in the series and the playoffs. I'm sick of people saying "Kobe didn't shoot a single free throw". Hard to get fouled on fall-away jumpers and break-aways. Get real.

1. la 16 sa 21
2. la 15 sa 18
3. la 22 sa 19
4. la 24 sa 21

totals: la 77 sa 79

So yeah, I see your HUGE advantage! :lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

It doesn't matter how good a defensive team you are. Kobe shooting 29 shots and getting 0 FTA is laughable. Kobe getting 1 FTA in 2 straight games is ridiculous.


as an aside He should be getting his team involved more and not be shooting 29 shots

[lakersownspurs]

Has this link been posted yet? How ironic....:lol

Pay close attention to second 21 or 22 of this vid...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwO7m-1T9DE

[Trainwreck2100]

did the nba come out and refute that play?

[Dim Tuncan]

Television replays indicated that Fisher's shot with 6.9 seconds to go grazed the rim before bouncing out of bounds off of Robert Horry's leg, meaning that the Lakers should have had a new shot clock instead of asking Kobe Bryant to hurry a fadeaway jumper after the ensuing timeout.

[ChumpDumper]

That's his best shot though.

[lakersownspurs]

did the nba come out and refute that play?

No, I don't believe so. BUT the Cavs can't power whine like the Spurs organization can.
I mean they have a knack of getting the league to suspend the players of opposing teams for fouling a Spur "too hard" in their eyes...:rolleyes

[WCFBaby]

Okay Spurs fans............I think this is what you're looking for.

Yes, Fisher appears to foul Barry prior to the shot. So, Barry should have been given two free throws. Now, with that being said.........if the last few minutes are called correctly Barry would have been trying to cut the lead from seven points to five points at the buzzer. Why you ask? Well, because Odom's goal-tending was actually a block (2 less points for the spurs) Fisher's shot grazed the rim which would have meant the Spurs would have fouled Kobe, Fisher, or Sasha (all 85%+ free throw shooters) with a couple of seconds left on the clock (2 extra points for the Lakers) AND Manu's 3 point shot was clearly a 2 pointer....replays have shown that Manu's feet were on the line (1 less point for the Spurs). So, I'm assuming that you're now MORE THAN HAPPY that a Lakers fan has admitted that if the last 2 minutes are called to perfection by the refs.....and assuming that both the Lakers and Spurs both make their two free throws......the Lakers would have won by five points rather than two points. At least we can all sleep a little better now.

Lakers in 5!

[whottt]

You stay sleezy LA.

[WCFBaby]

You stay sleezy LA.

Nice retort fucktard.

[whottt]

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Holy Shit!


60 posts a day?

What a fucking pathetic loser....sleezebag.

And it wakes up every day a Lakerfan too...ack.


I bet Kobe being a rapist make it cheer even harder...

[MARTINnba]

Okay Spurs fans............I think this is what you're looking for.

Yes, Fisher appears to foul Barry prior to the shot. So, Barry should have been given two free throws. Now, with that being said.........if the last few minutes are called correctly Barry would have been trying to cut the lead from seven points to five points at the buzzer. Why you ask? Well, because Odom's goal-tending was actually a block (2 less points for the spurs) Fisher's shot grazed the rim which would have meant the Spurs would have fouled Kobe, Fisher, or Sasha (all 85%+ free throw shooters) with a couple of seconds left on the clock (2 extra points for the Lakers) AND Manu's 3 point shot was clearly a 2 pointer....replays have shown that Manu's feet were on the line (1 less point for the Spurs). So, I'm assuming that you're now MORE THAN HAPPY that a Lakers fan has admitted that if the last 2 minutes are called to perfection by the refs.....and assuming that both the Lakers and Spurs both make their two free throws......the Lakers would have won by five points rather than two points. At least we can all sleep a little better now.

Lakers in 5!

you wrote this huge text because you can't sleep a shit!!!!!!!! you know that it is unfair

[Trainwreck2100]

No, I don't believe so. BUT the Cavs can't power whine like the Spurs organization can.
I mean they have a knack of getting the league to suspend the players of opposing teams for fouling a Spur "too hard" in their eyes...:rolleyes

Really power whine? Weren't you Lakers fans using the Spur's post game comments as evidence that there was no foul?

[lakersownspurs]

You stay sleezy LA.

UGUG. UG_GUG_UG...:madrun

[Trainwreck2100]

Television replays indicated that Fisher's shot with 6.9 seconds to go grazed the rim before bouncing out of bounds off of Robert Horry's leg, meaning that the Lakers should have had a new shot clock instead of asking Kobe Bryant to hurry a fadeaway jumper after the ensuing timeout.


wow way to repeat what has been said a million times in this thread. Only you made it really big look i can do it too
League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled

[whottt]

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C'mon scumbag...see if you can break 100 posts per day.

[WCFBaby]

Holy Shit!


60 posts a day?

What a fucking pathetic loser....sleezebag.

And it wakes up every day a Lakerfan too...ack.


I bet Kobe being a rapist make it cheer even harder...

Well, I have to admit, I signed up to discuss the end of last nights game and it became quite a discussion. But, you want to know what's really great? You calling me out for my 60 posts and you've made about 70 in a day and a half!!!! What a fucking fool you are! Keep on losing cockjockey!

[WCFBaby]

Okay Spurs fans............I think this is what you're looking for.

Yes, Fisher appears to foul Barry prior to the shot. So, Barry should have been given two free throws. Now, with that being said.........if the last few minutes are called correctly Barry would have been trying to cut the lead from seven points to five points at the buzzer. Why you ask? Well, because Odom's goal-tending was actually a block (2 less points for the spurs) Fisher's shot grazed the rim which would have meant the Spurs would have fouled Kobe, Fisher, or Sasha (all 85%+ free throw shooters) with a couple of seconds left on the clock (2 extra points for the Lakers) AND Manu's 3 point shot was clearly a 2 pointer....replays have shown that Manu's feet were on the line (1 less point for the Spurs). So, I'm assuming that you're now MORE THAN HAPPY that a Lakers fan has admitted that if the last 2 minutes are called to perfection by the refs.....and assuming that both the Lakers and Spurs both make their two free throws......the Lakers would have won by five points rather than two points. At least we can all sleep a little better now.

Lakers in 5!

[whottt]

blah blah blah blach go rapist! blah blah blah rapist go!


Post!

Quicker Scumbag Quicker!

Post!

[Trainwreck2100]

League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled

FIFY

[Trainwreck2100]

Well, I have to admit, I signed up to discuss the end of last nights game and it became quite a discussion. But, you want to know what's really great? You calling me out for my 60 posts and you've made about 70 in a day and a half!!!! What a fucking fool you are! Keep on losing cockjockey!

you went and counted his posts from a day and a half ago?

[nomine]

Wow, the immaturity in these threads have reached astounding proportions!

Lakers fans being trolls, spurs fans being arrogant elitists.

I love this game!!

[Trainwreck2100]

.

I love this game!!
ITS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!:tu The NBA Cares that Reading is FUN.............damental

[MARTINnba]

Wow, the immaturity in these threads have reached astounding proportions!

Lakers fans being trolls, spurs fans being arrogant elitists.

I love this game!!

GET OUT OF HERE FUCKIN BEACH BOY!!!

[Lakers999]

GET OUT OF HERE FUCKIN BEACH BOY!!!

beach boy??? jealous?:lol

[milkyway21]

Wow, the immaturity in these threads have reached astounding proportions!

Lakers fans being trolls, spurs fans being arrogant elitists.I love this game!!

Are you are not a little bit concerned ALL sport sites in the world are talking about that foul that shld have been awarded FTs?

Spend a minute, hit that key, scroll, and look around if WHOSE TEAM GETTING THE SYMPATHY right now.

And you have the audacity to come here and laugh at us. You idiot.

[dermule]

Can't get bailed out by the refs....seemed to work all game though. hmmm...travel first...then foul....hmmmmm....yup good no call.


actually, ball was being dribbled during "travel", next

[dermule]

whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????????????


that is nothing, he barely touched him, good d , he got outplayed

"must be vision impaired," God said, "clearly the elbow fell on Brent's head. Good thing the team decided to be classy about it, though. I see in the future, 3 games, ala Pistons v Lakers..." -The Lord

[dermule]

That was a clean block on parker's layup, not goaltending...watch it again. Everything evens out in the end

-A crooked referee officiated a game in a highly-competitve series last year (which was the real NBA championship).

-Tim Duncan walks in for a dunk tonight

-Fisher's shot hits the rim(unless the laws of physics changed before our very eyes) and is not called.

-Odom blocks Parker's layup, yet it's called a goaltend.

-Barry does a piss-poor job of selling a foul (its the last shot of a game, you damn well know nothing is ever called unless its drastic) which wouldve been 2 shots anyway



Odom actually fouled Parker, that's why Parker flew into stands, because Odom was like a D-Back smacking into him, so in addition to the goal tend (which no one but Fakers has ever disputed) there should've been an a FT... next

Tim Duncan walked, so did Kobe (sports center actually pointed that out) earlier

"Barry does a piss-poor job of selling a foul"
Manu sells fouls well, that's gotten him a lot of respect around the league... <- facetious

"Fisher's shot hits the rim" did it? are you sure....

BTW, how about the BS and-one that the called on Oberto vs Odom....

[Lakerman JSJ]

His left arm makes contact with fisher before he puts his right foot down
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2091/barrygs3.gif

The travel occurs at the moment that Barry lifts the right foot. It doesn't matter when/where it comes down. The right foot was established as his pivot foot and had to stay on the ground. It was a travel.

[spurs4life0007]

You all are dumb fucking DICKS.........Lakers played at great game....Spurs fucking sucked....Spurs should have never gotten the ball back since fished hit the Fucking rim.....why the fuck are all the spurs fans bitching? Lakers did not get any calls this game....WE (SPURS) GOT ALL THE CALLS AND STILL LOST!

Tim Duncan U FUCKING SUCK eveyone on the spurs are flopping too much....Bowen is the most dirty play i have ever seen....FUCK ALL THE SPURS FANS U ALL ARE MORONS.....

[AztecPrincss]

2004....BS 0.4
2006....BS ginobil foul
2008... BS no call at the end...i mean...anyone who doesn't recognize that as a foul is just blind from the ears

:rollin I still believe! GO SPURS GO!

[sedale threatt]

good to see another intelligent spurs fan

[spurs4life0007]

Barry Also Traveled And So DID Dumb Duncan....

[dermule]

Kobe has SIX FUCKING FREE THROW ATTEMPTS THE ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES.

Yeah blame the refs Sporks.

i've seen this argument a lot lately, people haven't been paying attn to what Pop's strategy has been: make Kobe a jump shooter the entire series.....

[Lakerman JSJ]

You all are dumb fucking DICKS.........Lakers played at great game....Spurs fucking sucked....Spurs should have never gotten the ball back since fished hit the Fucking rim.....why the fuck are all the spurs fans bitching? Lakers did not get any calls this game....WE (SPURS) GOT ALL THE CALLS AND STILL LOST!

Tim Duncan U FUCKING SUCK eveyone on the spurs are flopping too much....Bowen is the most dirty play i have ever seen....FUCK ALL THE SPURS FANS U ALL ARE MORONS.....

Although I agree with the sentiment of your post, I have to say that this is the least constructive post I've read in quite some time. Clearly you're not really a Spurs fan because I have a hard time believing an actual Spurs fan would call all other Spurs fans "morons".

[spurs4life0007]

I Hope Lakers Win Today Just To Make The Spurs Fans Bitch Even More.....

[spurs4life0007]

Although I agree with the sentiment of your post, I have to say that this is the least constructive post I've read in quite some time. Clearly you're not really a Spurs fan because I have a hard time believing an actual Spurs fan would call all other Spurs fans "morons".

DONT TELL ME THAT I AM NOT A SPURS FAN....I AM A DIE HARD FAN....JUST DONT LIKE IT WHEN ALL THE FANS BITCH ABOUT LOSING JUST BECAUSE OF THE REFS......WE DIDNT PLAY A GOOD GAME...WE LOST BECAUSE OF THAT NOT THE LAST CALL OF THE GAME....

[dermule]

Oh shut the fuck up! I am so fucking tired of that bullshit.

If Barry goes to the line and makes three, Spurs win, Period.

I'm sick of this "they played badly" argument too: so... the fakers that were just 2 pts ahead of us played great, right?

obviously, they played 2 pts better than us (probably would have been a tie and overtime, if the game were called fairly)

bad offense usually indicates good defense (the kind where you don't get to jump on someone)

[spurs4life0007]

I'm sick of this "they played badly" argument too: so... the fakers that were just 2 pts ahead of us played great, right?

obviously, they played 2 pts better than us (probably would have been a tie and overtime, if the game were called fairly)

bad offense usually indicates good defense (the kind where you don't get to jump on someone)

DO U KNOW HOW MANY CALLS WE GOT EVEN THOUGHT THEY WERE NOT THERE? DUDE WE ARE GETTIN OLD AND WE DIDNT LOSE BECUASE LAKERS GOT THE LAST CALL...WE LOST BECUASE WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE LAKERS.....

[dermule]

Barry Also Traveled And So DID Dumb Duncan....

posts=4
=> BS lakers fan QED

anyways.... no Barry started dribbling..... you see, you can catch the ball (follow closely) then start dribbling when you try to go forward (he was not succeeding b/c someone had landed on his shoulder)

[spurs4life0007]

posts=4
=> BS lakers fan QED

anyways.... no Barry started dribbling..... you see, you can catch the ball (follow closely) then start dribbling when you try to go forward (he was not succeeding b/c someone had landed on his shoulder)

WOW i dont know why u guys are so slow we should have never gotten the ball....do u understand that? dfish hit the rim we got a break.....did u expect to get two breaks in a row? i would have thought we would but i guess we didnt pay off the refs with enough money.....:blah:blah:

[dermule]

The travel occurs at the moment that Barry lifts the right foot. It doesn't matter when/where it comes down. The right foot was established as his pivot foot and had to stay on the ground. It was a travel.

dude, isn't he pushing the ball down with his hand, towards the floor, when his foot starts to move?

that's what I like to call dribbling

check the rule book

[Lakerman JSJ]

I'm sick of this "they played badly" argument too: so... the fakers that were just 2 pts ahead of us played great, right?

obviously, they played 2 pts better than us (probably would have been a tie and overtime, if the game were called fairly)

bad offense usually indicates good defense (the kind where you don't get to jump on someone)

In reference to the bold: That is selective memory at it's finest.

The Spurs were getting the calls ALL GAME LONG. They shot over 10 more free throws than the Lakers up until late when the Spurs were forced to foul & send the Lakers to the line and still shot 7 more free throws.

There were blown calls for both teams in the final minute and it's really unfortunate that this one call is all that everyone is focusing on. Ignoring Barry's travel before any contact, referees always swallow their whistles in the closing seconds of tight games. Bailing Barry out 40 feet from the basket to decide a WCF game is highly unlikely. No way even Kobe gets the call for that exact play, although he & someone like Manu would have been smart enough to draw much more contact when they saw that they had Fisher in the air like that.

[dermule]

WOW i dont know why u guys are so slow we should have never gotten the ball....do u understand that? dfish hit the rim we got a break.....did u expect to get two breaks in a row? i would have thought we would but i guess we didnt pay off the refs with enough money.....:blah:blah:

nobody believes you, you've basically lied by posting with this handle.

so, children, we see liars -like- the no-call, children what do we conclude....

[dermule]

In reference to the bold: That is selective memory at it's finest.

The Spurs were getting the calls ALL GAME LONG. They shot over 10 more free throws than the Lakers up until late when the Spurs were forced to foul & send the Lakers to the line and still shot 7 more free throws.

There were blown calls for both teams in the final minute and it's really unfortunate that this one call is all that everyone is focusing on. Ignoring Barry's travel before any contact, referees always swallow their whistles in the closing seconds of tight games. Bailing Barry out 40 feet from the basket to decide a WCF game is highly unlikely. No way even Kobe gets the call for that exact play, although he & someone like Manu would have been smart enough to draw much more contact when they saw that they had Fisher in the air like that.

no FTs in 4th

[Lakerman JSJ]

dude, isn't he pushing the ball down with his hand, towards the floor, when his foot starts to move?

that's what I like to call dribbling

check the rule book

Believe me, I'm well aware of the rulebook. It's not even close to a simultaneous move. It's clearly evident that Barry catches the ball with both feet on the ground. He then steps back with his left foot to push off. Next, he sees Fisher and tries to draw some contact by stepping forward with his right foot. Only then does he start his dribble.

The rule is you are not permitted to even LIFT your pivot foot with the ball still in your hand. That's precisely what happens.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2091/barrygs3.gif

[Lakerman JSJ]

no FTs in 4th

Before the Spurs began intentionally fouling late in the game to stop the clock, the Lakers had shot exactly ONE free throw in the 4th. Next.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=280527024&period=4

[spurs4life0007]

nobody believes you, you've basically lied by posting with this handle.

so, children, we see liars -like- the no-call, children what do we conclude....

wow what a loser....what ever u want to believe....i just it to known i am not like these other spurs fans that bitch about losing.....which dermule does....u are entitled to what u want to believe i really could care less.....

[dermule]

wow what a loser....what ever u want to believe....i just it to known i am not like these other spurs fans that bitch about losing.....which dermule does....u are entitled to what u want to believe i really could care less.....

look at screen in front of you, "posts = 7" not a single person believes you a spurs fan.... no one on earth, you are a liar

[dermule]

Believe me, I'm well aware of the rulebook. It's not even close to a simultaneous move. It's clearly evident that Barry catches the ball with both feet on the ground. He then steps back with his left foot to push off. Next, he sees Fisher and tries to draw some contact by stepping forward with his right foot. Only then does he start his dribble.

The rule is you are not permitted to even LIFT your pivot foot with the ball still in your hand. That's precisely what happens.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2091/barrygs3.gif



google it, league admits foul should have been called, that's the NBA league

it's hilarious to see the team of Kobe talk about traveling.... Jordan envies Kobe's traveling papers.... ha ha

also, he didn't try, he -got- contact

[spurs4life0007]

look at screen in front of you, "posts = 7" not a single person believes you a spurs fan.... no one on earth, you are a liar

okay, what ever u say...i dont need to prove myself to some idoit with an IQ of 0.....:nope

what the spurs need is more fans like u....that bitch and whine....instead of looking at what the spurs didnt do and what the other team did do.

[spurs4life0007]

dermule how many posts do u have? o yeah thats right moron.....

[Lakerman JSJ]

google it, league admits foul should have been called, that's the NBA league

it's hilarious to see the team of Kobe talk about traveling.... Jordan envies Kobe's traveling papers.... ha ha

also, he didn't try, he -got- contact

According to Section XIV of the NBA Rulebook:

In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.

http://www.othbasketball.org/Basketball%20Rules/Rules.htm

It's okay to acknowledge that Barry traveled on the play. There's really no point in kidding yourself because nothing is going to change what happened.

[spurs4life0007]

According to Section XIV of the NBA Rulebook:

In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.

http://www.othbasketball.org/Basketball%20Rules/Rules.htm

It's okay to acknowledge that Barry traveled on the play. There's really no point in kidding yourself because nothing is going to change what happened.

Wow

[Fake Dynasty]

Doesn't matter if Barry traveled or not, although we know he did. It was a great play by Derek Fisher and a bad decision by Barry. Spurs fans need to get past it like ya'll told Phoenix to get past that bullshit last year.

[Lakerman JSJ]

I apologize if that last sentence came off more brash than I intended. I'm simply trying to explain what occurred because it's a clear violation of the rules.

[spurs4life0007]

i am past the lose....but these other spurs fans cant i guess they really thought we got cheated even though we got all te calls.

[Zero Point Four]

Barry traveled. But there's no way you could reasonably expect the ref to see it. When you have to show a replay in freeze-frame to show ANYTHING, then it is time to cut the refs some slack.

Having said that, the refs blew the non-call on Fisher's rim shot. Yes, it was close, and grazed the rim. But there was a Laker and a Spur (Horry) both trying to get the rebound. Yet the ball clanged off Horry's leg. Why? Because neither knows how to catch a ball for a crucial rebound?

No. Because the direction of the ball changed just enough to be out of their reach.

So in honesty, if the league is going to apologize, then apologize for the non-call on Fisher's shot as well as the non-call on Fisher's collision.

Whether you like it or not, the two non-calls balance each other.

But the larger and more important question is this: How come any interaction the Spurs have with Derek Fisher turns out to be excruciatingly close, but ultimately a Spurs-killer?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080524/capt.e94a7363dedc46a0bb0549970dc76f5b.spurs_lakers _basketball_cacp107.jpg?x=296&y=345&sig=5pkyRt8RZTqn5HD3JPcpxg--

[dermule]

According to Section XIV of the NBA Rulebook:

In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.

http://www.othbasketball.org/Basketball%20Rules/Rules.htm

It's okay to acknowledge that Barry traveled on the play. There's really no point in kidding yourself because nothing is going to change what happened.


did he come to a legal stop....

wooooh, he blow their minds again..... and all this while replaying in his head the reels of tape of NBA players doing exactly what Barry did and going to the foul line (Kobe are you listening)?




Lakers: though doth protest too much....

translation: why are y'all in our forum all day, is something gnawing at you? are you saying the league admitted to an imaginary mistake.....?

[Fake Dynasty]

Nah dummy, the league is covering their ass, and kissing ass to quiet the situation as much as possible. That's the only reason the league issues statements and to issue a statement on what was a referee judgment call is clownish. But that's the NBA management: A bunch of clowns.

All we have to do is focus and end this bullshit tonight. You Spurs fans can cry all you want while you're on that fishing trip.

[dermule]

dermule how many posts do u have? o yeah thats right moron.....

class, who's the poster who says he's a spurs fan but called all of us d*cks (aside: moderators? what are they, hmm) for questioning a call that the LEEEEG said was bad, and just started posting at 11:16 AM? you're fake name is so lame... spurs4life0007... I would have used I_am_a_spurs_fan_no_really_believe_me_while_I_bera te_you

context is a concept that is difficult to explain, but sometimes very plain to see

man, it's almost worth it to be screwed by the refs to imagine all the lakers' faces getting redder and redder

[Lakerman JSJ]

I was genuinely curious if I could find some Spurs fans that were rational enough to analyze the play with me and admit that there was a travel before any foul occurred. I know how Laker fans feel about it but it's difficult to know whether someone actually sees the infraction or whether they'll just say whatever benefits the Lakers.

This was an opportunity to review the play from the point of view from some basketball fans that weren't biased from a Laker perspective.

[dermule]

class, who's the poster who says he's a spurs fan but called all of us d*cks (aside: moderators? what are they, hmm) for questioning a call that the LEEEEG said was bad, and just started posting at 11:16 AM? you're fake name is so lame... spurs4life0007... I would have used I_am_a_spurs_fan_no_really_believe_me_while_I_bera te_you

context is a concept that is difficult to explain, but sometimes very plain to see

man, it's almost worth it to be screwed by the refs to imagine all the lakers' faces getting redder and redder

spurs4life0007: you know I'm doing this left handed while reading a book, right?

[spurs4life0007]

class, who's the poster who says he's a spurs fan but called all of us d*cks (aside: moderators? what are they, hmm) for questioning a call that the LEEEEG said was bad, and just started posting at 11:16 AM? you're fake name is so lame... spurs4life0007... I would have used I_am_a_spurs_fan_no_really_believe_me_while_I_bera te_you

context is a concept that is difficult to explain, but sometimes very plain to see

man, it's almost worth it to be screwed by the refs to imagine all the lakers' faces getting redder and redder

I HOPE U HAVE SOMETHING GOING FOR U IN LIFE BESIDES BITCHIN ABBOUT SPURS LOSING......

[spurs4life0007]

Lakers Congrats....i Am Not A Sore Loser......good Game And Good Win For The Lakers....spurs Did Not Play Like Champs......they Played Like Chumps.....

[dermule]

Exactly what I said. Kobe in LA gets this call everytime.

every single time, man, and twice on Thursdays.....

like, Kobe would've gotten this call in warm-ups, with his OWN team

like, there would've been a front page story by Woodward and Bernstein in the -previous-day's paper if it the shoe were on the other foot

like, it would've caused a singularity in Minkowskian space, that would have sucked the stadium and all the phony h-wood bimbos into it, if Kobe or Fish would've not gotten that call in LA, down 2-1 in a series


</hyperbole>

[Fake Dynasty]

every single time, man, and twice on Thursdays.....

like, Kobe would've gotten this call in warm-ups, with his OWN team

like, there would've been a front page story by Woodward and Bernstein in the -previous-day's paper if it the shoe were on the other foot

like, it would've caused a singularity in Minkowskian space, that would have sucked the stadium and all the phony h-wood bimbos into it, if Kobe or Fish would've not gotten that call in LA, down 2-1 in a series


</hyperbole>Brent Barry is no Kobe. Fisher would've sank the shot anyways, cuz he owns the Spurs. Thanks

[spurs4life0007]

Dermule :depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed

[Lakers in 5]

Check this out. BEFORE Fisher runs into Barry (what a rookie move not to shoot once he had Fisher in the air), then watch him travel.

YES Spurs fans, he traveled. Watch his feet! His right foot comes off the ground before he puts the ball to the floor.

Come on Spurs fans, you should know basketball by now. I can't believe the NBA would not catch that before they issued their bullshit comment. If you say that you don't see it than "you are who I thought you were"!!

Now unlike your conspiracy bullshit that you can't prove, this is fact. Watch the clip, shut up and stop crying like losers. Oh and get ready to be sent home by the better team.

http://i32.tinypic.com/8vvq4m.jpg

[dermule]

Lakers Congrats....i Am Not A Sore Loser......good Game And Good Win For The Lakers....spurs Did Not Play Like Champs......they Played Like Chumps.....

and now he tries to be magnanimous and gracious....

it's like he's fallen into a pit of vipers, and thinks if he acts like he's climbed out, the vipers will believe he didn't fall in....

[spurs4life0007]

and now he tries to be magnanimous and gracious....

it's like he's fallen into a pit of vipers, and thinks if he acts like he's climbed out, the vipers will believe he didn't fall in....

:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah :blah:blah

[Man of Steel]

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[Kermit]

Where's a thread-merge nazi when you need them?

[Lakers in 5]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/clark101857/Stupid.gif

Don't call this a lucky guess. You never played the game.


Some discussions are should be left for people who have played and know the rules.

[Lakers in 5]

Where's a thread-merge nazi when you need them?

Truth hurts don't it?

[spurschick]

Truth hurts don't it?

I think the merge comment was meant to merge all of the threads about the same topic, so get off your high horse for a moment. And please don't try and masquerade as a Spurs fan under your title.

[ChumpDumper]

Merge hurts, don't it?

[dermule]

what video? I just see the worst picture ever.

this one's hilarious, the photo could be before or after the ball hit the b-board.
who knows, just post a better picture or something

[Lakerman JSJ]

this one's hilarious, the photo could be before or after the ball hit the b-board.
who knows, just post a better picture or something

I hope this helps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiZbtkBsyw

[dermule]

I hope this helps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiZbtkBsyw

man, i hadn't seen that one, this clears it up, Fisher fouled him before Odom did, and it's inconclusive about the goal tend.... I don't have my video playback studio handy my video toaster editor with me

(spurs fans: have you ever noticed that, besides this particular BS with Crawford, calls that go vs us are not scrutinized in microscopic detail by sports center or the tv broadcast, and calls that go for us are? witness: the whole Horry stabbed Nash last year stuff .... funny 'bout that)

[Lakerman JSJ]

man, i hadn't seen that one, this clears it up, Fisher fouled him before Odom did, and it's inconclusive about the goal tend.... I don't have my video playback studio handy my video toaster editor with me

(spurs fans: have you ever noticed that, besides this particular BS with Crawford, calls that go vs us are not scrutinized in microscopic detail by sports center or the tv broadcast, and calls that go for us are? witness: the whole Horry stabbed Nash last year stuff .... funny 'bout that)

Damn, I really had hope for you dermule. That video not only conclusively shows Odom getting to the ball before it hits glass, but also shows Fisher completely going by Parker without touching him.

It's a shame you're allowing your feelings for the teams involved block such glaring truths.

I'll respectfully bow out of this thread. Please continue going about your business of thinking the league is out to get you.

[El Ley]

El Ley say, don be bitter.
Jew guys had chance to win game but noboli ankles hurt again & jewr Spurs no can make a basket.
3-1 mean lakers better team.
Have fun looking at Lakers on TV, don hate marinate.
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-We Love El Ley