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    NY Times/Sienna just released their final polls before the election:

    PA - Biden +6
    WI - Biden +11
    AZ - Biden +6
    FL - Biden +3

    NY Times imo has been the best pollster at weighing for dumb uneducated MAGA s this cycle, so these are good numbers for Biden. I’m more and more confident he wins Wisconsin and Michigan by a wide enough margin where it’s called on election night and PA is the only state that could get decided in court.

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    Any Democrat holding to Florida is in big denial.
    You have better shots in GA, AZ, NC, MI, WI, PA if you're looking to chip at Trump's Red Firewall.
    red firewall

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    NY Times/Sienna just released their final polls before the election:

    PA - Biden +6
    WI - Biden +11
    AZ - Biden +6
    FL - Biden +3

    NY Times imo has been the best pollster at weighing for dumb uneducated MAGA s this cycle, so these are good numbers for Biden. I’m more and more confident he wins Wisconsin and Michigan by a wide enough margin where it’s called on election night and PA is the only state that could get decided in court.
    Maybe Wisconsin 17 point lead wasnt such an outlier the other day after all.

    11 points is stout. 6 points in Arizona is not bad either.

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    Maybe Wisconsin 17 point lead wasnt such an outlier the other day after all.

    11 points is stout. 6 points in Arizona is not bad either.
    Holy I didn’t realize how big the sampling was for these polls either (1,800 LV in PA is a lot for a high quality pollster doing live phone calls). NY Times definitely put a lot of effort into make sure these polls were accurate.

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...lection-433703

    Gives DT about a 1/10 chance which is about right at this point.

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    Yeah it’s well within the MOE (like every other Florida poll).

    im driving up to PA early tomorrow morning to canvass for Joe and help build on that lead. Never thought Sleepy Joe would be the candidate I support so enthusiastically but here we are.
    This is the stuff.

    yes.
    Godspeed.

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    Not even sure why you're upset, tbh...
    Because I called him out.
    Again.

    He can redirect his anger on someone who has the patience to entertain him.
    And sorry No No, he is a flat out liar who refuses to back anything up with a link.
    We can all play prognosticators with 2 choices, it’s not hard to call a coin flip. But when we have people who actually try to determine outcomes professionally, and give you their methods, they are more likely to be correct than someone who sits in isolation ruminating over YouTube videos and tweets.

    Derp takes 2016 as his single event of experts getting a something wrong and then claims expertise because his wish came true. If the same people who are good at this make the same mistakes they made in the 2016 analysis, we have something interesting. I gave him an article that claimed this with their basic argument of the flaws in polling sample techniques. He blew this article off and gave zero back other than I read, I really do. And gives zero back.

    He uses basic primal urge instincts and that’s fine, just admit it. Some people have jobs that depend on being correct when there are way more than 2 possible outcomes. And can smell this type of self proclaimed expertise from a mile off. He smells, no reeks, of grandiose self delusion.

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    I read that Hillary's +3M votes could be +8M for Joe

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    Because I called him out.
    Again.

    He can redirect his anger on someone who has the patience to entertain him.
    And sorry No No, he is a flat out liar who refuses to back anything up with a link.
    We can all play prognosticators with 2 choices, it’s not hard to call a coin flip. But when we have people who actually try to determine outcomes professionally, and give you their methods, they are more likely to be correct than someone who sits in isolation ruminating over YouTube videos and tweets.

    Derp takes 2016 as his single event of experts getting a something wrong and then claims expertise because his wish came true. If the same people who are good at this make the same mistakes they made in the 2016 analysis, we have something interesting. I gave him an article that claimed this with their basic argument of the flaws in polling sample techniques. He blew this article off and gave zero back other than I read, I really do. And gives zero back.

    He uses basic primal urge instincts and that’s fine, just admit it. Some people have jobs that depend on being correct when there are way more than 2 possible outcomes. And can smell this type of self proclaimed expertise from a mile off. He smells, no reeks, of grandiose self delusion.
    Further to El No No
    I also read the section just to look for articles or the latest prognostications with a link. it’s very helpful when others do good work and find good articles and polls that can be looked up because I am not everywhere at once unlike the all knowing derptoid

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    I’ll be in Philly. Not too worried about angry gun toting MAGA s there.

    You need to see the clip of Big Gretch at the Michigan rally today if you haven’t already.
    Thanks for posting that it was fun.

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    Early vote, Dems will be only 100K up or possibly less going into election day. The Repubs will win the day easily.
    As well, minorities are much stronger for Trump this time around; and Florida has a lot of blacks and Hispanics.
    Despite the media lies, I've seen nothing to state that seniors are drastically for Biden. In fact, I was telling you that
    I think many will be pleased with his lowering premiums by something like 43 percent.
    You don't vote against something that is working. Colleges not in progress. The vote parties aren't there as much.
    Furthermore, Democrats have zero ground game in Florida b/c they're being COVID snowflakes.
    Yes, Dems may make compensation with mail-in voting; but I was seeing stuff about that not even being strong.
    All and all I think 4-10 percent or more for Trump is looking like a strong possibility.
    As well, the polling stations are being more fairly ran than in other places. Ballot box stuffing is less of a concern than other places.
    ..I've present [sic] empirical data...
    [that's not empirical, here's the definition]
    [butthurt about being called out presenting an opinion as empirical fact]


    That is an opinion. The only way you can present that as empirical, is if you can present objectively verifiable data to support your statement, by definition.

    Link or STFU.

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    You are right and it will seemingly take an incredible run of events for him to blow it unless state polling is wrong in several places.


    If it is close this comes into play and will be some serious turmoil.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ay/ar-BB1azMRd
    Over 3000 lawsuits BEFORE he became president.
    This was a huge warning our president will try anything to satisfy HIS needy personality.

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    Despite the media lies, I've seen nothing to state that seniors are drastically for Biden. In fact, I was telling you that
    I think many will be pleased with his lowering premiums by something like 43 percent.
    Even if the 43% nonsense were true (it's not), why would seniors care about premiums?

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    Maybe Wisconsin 17 point lead wasnt such an outlier the other day after all.

    11 points is stout. 6 points in Arizona is not bad either.
    SMH. You learned jack from 2016.

    Trannies are the stupidest people on the face of this planet.

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    SMH. You learned jack from 2016.

    Trannies are the stupidest people on the face of this planet.
    Man, you woke up to a bad day news. Terrible polling data for you and Trump.

    Stop being a phobe and accept who you are and want to be, btw.

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    Man, you woke up to a bad day news. Terrible polling data for you and Trump.

    Stop being a phobe and accept who you are and want to be, btw.
    Did you just call yourself a ?


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    Did you just call yourself a ?

    You also woke up stupider.

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    You also woke up stupider.
    I didn't call you a . You called yourself a .

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    Did you just call yourself a ?

    once again proving you have the IQ of a potato

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    This is the stuff.

    yes.
    Godspeed.
    Been at it most of the morning. You’d be shocked how many volunteers are out canvassing here. There are people who flew in from California just to go door knocking in the Philly slums while it’s pouring outside. The campaign official I spoke to says that there are roughly ~2500 volunteers canvassing in the state this weekend.

    Ill take that kind of enthusiasm over MAGA rally enthusiasm.

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    Been at it most of the morning. You’d be shocked how many volunteers are out canvassing here. There are people who flew in from California just to go door knocking in the Philly slums while it’s pouring outside. The campaign official I spoke to says that there are roughly ~2500 volunteers canvassing in the state this weekend.

    Ill take that kind of enthusiasm over MAGA rally enthusiasm.
    What is the reception? Ya'll not getting ran out with baseball bats? Are blacks interested in going out to vote?

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    Been at it most of the morning. You’d be shocked how many volunteers are out canvassing here. There are people who flew in from California just to go door knocking in the Philly slums while it’s pouring outside. The campaign official I spoke to says that there are roughly ~2500 volunteers canvassing in the state this weekend.

    Ill take that kind of enthusiasm over MAGA rally enthusiasm.
    "volunteers"
    "enthusiasm"

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    What is the reception? Ya'll not getting ran out with baseball bats? Are blacks interested in going out to vote?
    It’s a mixed bag. I’m clearly knocking on the door of people who aren’t high propensity voters, but that tells me the Biden campaign actually has the data operation Shillary didn’t have. There’s a centralized platform you download as an app that allows you to walk up to each persons house and see the full history of every previous time the Biden campaign or other Democrat affiliated groups have tried to contact them, and you can skip over the house of people who already voted.

    The fact Hillary’s campaign didn’t have this kind of operation 4 years ago was definitely a huge factor in her losing.

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    It’s a mixed bag. I’m clearly knocking on the door of people who aren’t high propensity voters, but that tells me the Biden campaign actually has the data operation Shillary didn’t have. There’s a centralized platform you download as an app that allows you to walk up to each persons house and see the full history of every previous time the Biden campaign or other Democrat affiliated groups have tried to contact them, and you can skip over the house of people who already voted.

    The fact Hillary’s campaign didn’t have this kind of operation 4 years ago was definitely a huge factor in her losing.
    I can't imagine what is wrong in your life that you want to devote man hours to getting such a corrupt politician into The People's House.

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