DeSantis / Youngkin 2024

[pgardn]

Dude has completely changed character yet again.
something is happening upstairs

[Millennial_Messiah]

Didn't he just post that the Roe issue was a fad from the left followed by Wisconsin taking an ample on that take?

Roe reversal makes abortion a State's Rights / 10th Amendment issue.

It's over in a lot of states, including swing states like Michigan. Michigan passed the right to abortion as a state cons utional amendment via Proposition 3 in 2022, which is a >55% majority issue as Michigan is a libertarian state (they also have some of the most lax gun control in the USA despite carrying the burden of having Detroit, while Illinois has some of the tightest gun control having a similar but bigger type of high crime city in Chicago). Also, legal cannabis / THC (close to a 70/30 issue especially in a libertarianish state like Michigan) passed on the same ticket as Whitmer and Stabenow in '18. The Dems literally have practically nothing else to run that's not a 50/50 or worse issue on in that state.

The Dems are rapidly running out of issues to run on that aren't highly controversial or impede peoples' freedoms and lives more than they help them. Abortion, legal cannabis... legal gay marriage has been federal since 2015. If abortion is legal everywhere and the Dems make their campaign about gun control and green eco-fascism, they will lose.

[Winehole23]

Abortion won't be legal everywhere because Republicans keep passing laws restricting it. Anti-trans moral hysteria and racist, antigay Republican speech codes in schools will keep the GOP's real priorities in full view of voters until next year, at which point the more feral partisan dynamic of primary elections will come to the fore.

Whitmer won by 400,000 votes in Michigan, and the Supreme Court Justice in Wisconsin just won by ~200,000. Your hypothesis that Dems are running out of stuff to run on could use some improvement.

[Will Hunting]

Roe reversal makes abortion a State's Rights / 10th Amendment issue.

It's over in a lot of states, including swing states like Michigan. Michigan passed the right to abortion as a state cons utional amendment via Proposition 3 in 2022, which is a >55% majority issue as Michigan is a libertarian state (they also have some of the most lax gun control in the USA despite carrying the burden of having Detroit, while Illinois has some of the tightest gun control having a similar but bigger type of high crime city in Chicago). Also, legal cannabis / THC (close to a 70/30 issue especially in a libertarianish state like Michigan) passed on the same ticket as Whitmer and Stabenow in '18. The Dems literally have practically nothing else to run that's not a 50/50 or worse issue on in that state.

The Dems are rapidly running out of issues to run on that aren't highly controversial or impede peoples' freedoms and lives more than they help them. Abortion, legal cannabis... legal gay marriage has been federal since 2015. If abortion is legal everywhere and the Dems make their campaign about gun control and green eco-fascism, they will lose.

Your boy Majewski is running again

How much is he beating Kaptur by this time?

[Will Hunting]

Abortion won't be legal everywhere because Republicans keep passing laws restricting it. Anti-trans moral hysteria and racist, antigay Republican speech codes in schools will keep the GOP's real priorities in full view of voters until next year, at which point the more feral partisan dynamic of primary elections will come to the fore.

Whitmer won by 400,000 votes in Michigan, and the Supreme Court Justice in Wisconsin just won by ~200,000. Your hypothesis that Dems are running out of stuff to run on could use some improvement.

He’s also ignoring the activist right wing judges who want to ban abortion pills nationally and are citing fetal personhood in their opinions as a legitimate legal theory.

abortion isn’t going away at all anytime soon.

[Will Hunting]

The democracy stuff is also every bit as much of a boon with suburban voters as abortion is.

All of the election deniers who ran statewide in purple states not only lost but underperformed terribly. The guys who weren’t outright election deniers but flirters with election denial also performed terribly (Masters).

Just look at Wisconsin. Even a lot of ancestral Republican voters in Waukesha county are sick of Robin Vos rigging the maps so Republicans can’t lose and then doing all with his majority to actually help the state.

Obama got 32% of the Waukesha vote in 2012 and Justice Janet got 42% last week. Abortion isn’t the only issue fueling those trends.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Your boy Majewski is running again

How much is he beating Kaptur by this time?

He won't win the primary this time.

Majewski, especially after his double-digit loss in a pink seat, needs to do the MTG strategy of waiting for a safe red seat to open up and run for that. He isn't winning a purple seat that really should be pink not purple but Kaptur being a 42 year in bent makes it purple.

The Ohio pro-MAGA GOP leadership i.e. Jordan, Vance et al. won't let Majewski win another primary for OH-09. It's a rust belt district with an older patriotic population but they don't want to lose their social security or medicare. You have to run a likeable populist who's socially moderate and economically right of moderate but is pro social security and medicare. But most importantly you have to run someone experienced, and Majewski just isn't that. And having an "L" under his belt added to that just makes him the wrong candidate for that position.

The democracy stuff is also every bit as much of a boon with suburban voters as abortion is.

All of the election deniers who ran statewide in purple states not only lost but underperformed terribly. The guys who weren’t outright election deniers but flirters with election denial also performed terribly (Masters).

Just look at Wisconsin. Even a lot of ancestral Republican voters in Waukesha county are sick of Robin Vos rigging the maps so Republicans can’t lose and then doing all with his majority to actually help the state.

Obama got 32% of the Waukesha vote in 2012 and Justice Janet got 42% last week. Abortion isn’t the only issue fueling those trends.

Waukesha is a bad example though. It's definitely a more moderate GOP area. I know people from there, they're republicans but they pretty much only turn out for presidential elections and in general they don't really care too much about politics or the issues. They're soft voters, sort of like the rural parts of Michigan.

Trump won WI for the first GOP victory there in decades because he won by borderline dictator margins in parts of outstate (north and west), even though he underperformed the generic Scott Walker type of Republicans in the WOW counties. Judge No-Jail Janet P. won because of extremely low GOP turnout outstate. Romney and McCain got killed in WI despite running dictator margins in WOW because they got ed down pretty much everywhere else in the state.

He’s also ignoring the activist right wing judges who want to ban abortion pills nationally and are citing fetal personhood in their opinions as a legitimate legal theory.

abortion isn’t going away at all anytime soon.

I'm convinced these "right wing" fake GOP judges are trying to with abortion on purpose to help the Dems win and hyperaccelerate the NWO agenda and help China achieve world supremacy faster than their original goal of 2050.

A smart conservative who wants conservatism and MAGA to win elections would just cave on abortion and focus on fighting more winnable battles like the 2A debates, anti-green new deal, anti-big government mandates on individuals, anti-China, anti-immigration, anti-war/anti-involvement in foreign wars (i.e. Ukraine, Libya, Syria, et al.), shutting down crime and the border, pro-energy/pro-onshore drilling, America First labor and manufacturing policy, pro-unions/pro-working class, etc.

[Winehole23]

I'm convinced these "right wing" fake GOP judges are trying to with abortion on purpose to help the Dems win and hyperaccelerate the NWO agenda and help China achieve world supremacy faster than their original goal of 2050.

The more elegant explanation is that sincere Republican judges have no idea how unpopular their policies are or don't care.

Never attribute to malice what can adequately explained by incompetence and stupidity.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The more elegant explanation is that sincere Republican judges have no idea how unpopular their policies are or don't care.

Never attribute to malice what can adequately explained by incompetence and stupidity.

The more accurate explanation are that these "sincere Republican" judges are just moles put in place by the Dem / Uniparty BigDonor machine, which starts and ends with the Soros family. Where the Rothschilds started the Soros have been out to finish and have been mighty efficient so far.

Just like the human-bioengineered coronavirus in the lab was totally "incompetence and stupidity" rather than malicious intelligent design. The goals of such obviously concocted plot were to (a) get rid of Trump [as he was/is an existential threat to the NWO/CCP agenda], (b) create world chaos [not just covid itself, but look at the summer 2020 riots], (c) increase government control over the masses [look at the shutdowns/mask/vax mandates] and (d) increase China's control and superiority long term over the First World and USA [look towards the recent de-dollarization and the rise of the yuan].

[Winehole23]

You ok?

[Will Hunting]

Waukesha is a bad example though. It's definitely a more moderate GOP area. I know people from there, they're republicans but they pretty much only turn out for presidential elections and in general they don't really care too much about politics or the issues. They're soft voters, sort of like the rural parts of Michigan.

what in the ever loving are you talking about? Waukesha and Ozaukee County had higher turnout in the state supreme court election than any county other than Dane; they're the highest propensity Republican voters in the state.

Trump won WI for the first GOP victory there in decades because he won by borderline dictator margins in parts of outstate (north and west), even though he underperformed the generic Scott Walker type of Republicans in the WOW counties. Judge No-Jail Janet P. won because of extremely low GOP turnout outstate. Romney and McCain got killed in WI despite running dictator margins in WOW because they got ed down pretty much everywhere else in the state.

Trump got less votes in 2016 than Romney got in 2012; he won purely due to anemic enthusiasm for Hillary & he also got lucky because of how far the rural areas had shifted right by then while the suburbs hadn't really begun their hard shift left in 2016.

Justice Janet won both on persuasion and turnout. She got 42% in Waukesha and 48% in Ozaukee. That's got jack to do with rural turnout, those are simply unprecedented numbers for a Dem in Wisconsin.

I'm convinced these "right wing" fake GOP judges are trying to with abortion on purpose to help the Dems win and hyperaccelerate the NWO agenda and help China achieve world supremacy faster than their original goal of 2050.

holy what a cope. The judge who authored the abortion pill ban last Friday is a federalist society member who spent 5 years of his career as a Christian Activist lawyer. His confirmation was a literal party line vote except Susan Collins voted against confirmation. Even Sinema and Manchin voted against him. He's like the ultimate right wing judge.

A smart conservative who wants conservatism and MAGA to win elections would just cave on abortion and focus on fighting more winnable battles like the 2A debates, anti-green new deal, anti-big government mandates on individuals, anti-China, anti-immigration, anti-war/anti-involvement in foreign wars (i.e. Ukraine, Libya, Syria, et al.), shutting down crime and the border, pro-energy/pro-onshore drilling, America First labor and manufacturing policy, pro-unions/pro-working class, etc.

pro-unions? What planet are you living on? Every time the GOP wins a trifecta in a state right-to-work legislation is at the top of its agenda. The GOP prides itself on its visceral hatred towards unions and labor rights.

leaving off Iraq when you're listing foreign wars we shouldn't be involved with

[ElNono]

Roe reversal makes abortion a State's Rights / 10th Amendment issue.

It's over in a lot of states, including swing states like Michigan. Michigan passed the right to abortion as a state cons utional amendment via Proposition 3 in 2022, which is a >55% majority issue as Michigan is a libertarian state (they also have some of the most lax gun control in the USA despite carrying the burden of having Detroit, while Illinois has some of the tightest gun control having a similar but bigger type of high crime city in Chicago). Also, legal cannabis / THC (close to a 70/30 issue especially in a libertarianish state like Michigan) passed on the same ticket as Whitmer and Stabenow in '18. The Dems literally have practically nothing else to run that's not a 50/50 or worse issue on in that state.

The Dems are rapidly running out of issues to run on that aren't highly controversial or impede peoples' freedoms and lives more than they help them. Abortion, legal cannabis... legal gay marriage has been federal since 2015. If abortion is legal everywhere and the Dems make their campaign about gun control and green eco-fascism, they will lose.

You're miscalculating again. Abortion isn't the issue, it's Anti-abortion that's strictly a right issue. Anything center and left is overwhelmingly not onboard with the continued conserva anti-abortion push, and it's not going away merely because this is now a state's issue.
It especially isn't when state courts now want to invalidate things like abortion pills federally.

[Will Hunting]

You're miscalculating again. Abortion isn't the issue, it's Anti-abortion that's strictly a right issue. Anything center and left is overwhelmingly not onboard with the continued conserva anti-abortion push, and it's not going away merely because this is now a state's issue.
It especially isn't when state courts now want to invalidate things like abortion pills federally.

There’s also Republican senators like Lindsey Graham proposing federal bans and restrictions.

The GOP and all of its affiliated Christian nationalist groups have made it pretty clear that their end game is a federal ban on abortion & birth control with substantive due process being completely overturned.

[Will Hunting]

[Will Hunting]

“guise pa pa please stop endorsing daddy Trump ”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ndorsing-trump

[Will Hunting]

[Winehole23]

The six week limitation makes the exceptions well nigh unusable. Functionally, it's a total ban.

[Will Hunting]

God they are cooking

[hitmanyr2k]

Yeah, Ron just tanked his aspirations of being President with that move. With Trump's legal troubles and DeSantis sabotaging his own campaign the GOP primaries is going to be very entertaining. Other Republicans are probably thinking their chances have increased.

[Will Hunting]

Ron when his wife's boyfriend brings over Totino's pizza rolls for the weekend:

[Winehole23]

[ChumpDumper]

Ron when his wife's boyfriend brings over Totino's pizza rolls for the weekend:

Basically every picture of him needs to have pudding photoshopped onto his fingers.

[Winehole23]

Basically every picture of him needs to have pudding photoshopped onto his fingers.

[Winehole23]

Noted politcal journal People Magazine reports on the new six week abortion ban in Florida

A poll in February done by the University of North Florida found that 75% of the state's residents either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban — including 61% of Republicans.

https://people.com/health/rape-inces...-abortion-ban/

[Will Hunting]

Noted politcal journal People Magazine reports on the new six week abortion ban in Florida

https://people.com/health/rape-inces...-abortion-ban/

It’s effectively an outright ban. Florida requires 2 Dr appointments before you can get an abortion.

Good luck discovering you’re pregnant, having two Dr appointments, and then procuring the actual abortion pill (that’s now no longer available by mail) all in 6 weeks after conception.