Sorry I just have to make sure you are saying it right. The number 1 pick in the whole draft for their number one pick next year that is likely to be in the 12-18 range? Man, that makes zero sense.
I feel like a more realistic take is this year 4 plus the 2026 pick swap and maybe 2 2nd rounders or #8 and the 2025 pick.
In this theoretical, the pick is going back to ATL, so I think it could be something like:
2025: ATL pick (protected 1-8)
2026: SA pick (protected 1-6)
2027: Best of SA/ATL (Protected 1-6)
Converts to SA SRP 2028 and 2029 if has not conveyed.
You might even be able to do something for 2027 that is Best of SA/ATL (Protected 1-6)/Worst of SA/ATL if protection hits the best of.
I does not make zero sense. Just look at the player they would be giving up. Let’s say it’s one of Sarr, Risacher or Reed. All of those players would be pick 11-20 next season. So giving up a player that would be 11-20 for a pick that will likely fall 12-18 makes perfect sense.
Then once you just go beyond raw value like that, what it does is allow ATL to fully control their destiny. If they want to tank? Now they can since they own their 25 pick outright and can tank and go for a top 4 pick. If they dont want to tank? They can use it to trade for a player and that pick, which we just established as 12-18 is no different in value than how Sarr is viewed.
Weird that you consider all these prospects so low or you think next years prospects are all amazing. From the consensus you’re only missing the 2-3 can’t miss prospects but you have a boatload of intriguing ones this year. Atlanta is not looking to tank. They are actually in decent position because of Jalen Johnson and they still have youth AND the number 1 pick.
How would not drafting a rookie like Risacher equate to ATL tanking? The pick they would be getting, that they dont have now, is equally as valuable is the point either for a prospect next year of similar quality or as a trade asset to improve every bit as much this year than Risacher or Sarr would do.
ATL is a play-in team currently maybe even sneak in to #6 spot next year. Unless they plan on sitting all there good players for injuries, they can’t tank. Like I said, Murray, Trae, Bogey, Jalen Johnson, Deandre Hunter, Capela, and Okongwu is decent. Ideally you trade Trae for a nice piece and a draft pick or two and they keep their one. Your idea is not even a consideration for them.
No, you will be lambasted for leaning into this weak draft. actually.
I also proposed giving ATL their future picks back for the 2024 #1 and Murray. In that scenario, we have the #1, #4, #8 picks AND Murray. We might not even have to throw in Keldon Johnson in that scenario.
That would be bad Public Relations if the Hawks send back Murray and their top pick for the exact package that got them Murray.
Basically giving up the number 1 that the franchise has never had before and the fans are excited they got for a two year rental of Murray.
Spurs aren't trading those picks anyways. They want to build through the draft.
How about SAS gets:
#1 + Murray
ATL gets:
#4, #8, Keldon Johnson
Now I get the "exact same package" and bad PR argument, but the future ATL picks are not guaranteed at all as to the draft placement, they may only be in the 15-20 range. And I am not convinced the average fan knows or cares about that anyway. The average ATL fan would probably like to have the two new players coming in and enjoy Keldon's aggressive, attacking style.
As far as the issue of whether ATL can/should tank or not, this just maintains status quo. Thus we sidestep the issue of ATL's 2025-2027 picks.
See for me Sarr has the least bust potential. What the Spurs need from him is locking in on defense and rebounding. He can do that immediately and that would immediately improve the Spurs.
Here's a crazy one.
https://www.si.com/nba/kings/sacrame...new-number-one
Has the Spurs trading with Washington to get Sarr at #2 and still keeping #8. Spurs trade Was #4 and a future unspecified 1st and take Topic at #8.
Atl wouldn't go for that, but replace Keldon with one of those Atl first would get it done. In fact if I were the Spurs I would top 3 protect the pick Giving the Spurs starting 5 of Murray, Vassell, Keldon, Sarr and Wemby. Could be elite defensively and also has scorers on the floor. Just for 4,8, and one Atl picks. Let's Atl tank win, win.
I'd do it. Keldon won't be missed and we still get whoever we want in the draft plus upgrade the 8th pick to Dejounte. That's a win for us but doesn't look good from ATL's perspective.
Keldon is just a throw in basically so the trade would essentially boil down to the Spurs trading #8 for Murray while also getting to jump #4 to #1. Wildly unbalanced and ATL wouldn't do the deal without at least getting their 25 pick back.
Yes of course the goal is to rip off ATL twice, if possible. We just have to s game it a little to give them cover with their fan base. Also the previous trade is now a sunk cost. Plus Keldon Johnson is more valued outside Spurs fans. We can always throw in other players, 2RPs, fake 1RPs.
New meme just dropped
Supposedly, the Spurs board was: 1) Sarr, 2) Sheppard, 3) Castle.
Source?
New meme just dropped
Summer league hasn't started well for rascal, tbh.
ST source = throw at the wall and see if it sticks.
He’ll be a great tank commander. I wanted Hawks to draft him because he wouldn’t help for a couple of years at least.
Summer league being meaningless and all that, but he should really be a rim running center right now and he refuses to do that. Not sure how his development would go if he ignores his strengths and focuses on his weaknesses. Wizards aren’t helping by signing Valanciunas. Someone should be an adult and speak sense there.
Darn, I didn't want to comment or post about it as I didn't really watch any of the games, but he played for the NBL team in my state and wasn't all that good. He only averaged about 19 minutes I think it was, but wasn't that great looking at his stats.
Bryce Cotton is pretty much the MVP of the team if that tells you anything. I was a bit worried about drafting him if he was still on the board when the Spurs picked. Anyway, that has passed now, so I wish the kid well and hope he can improve and become a good player.
Trying to match those Bronny numbers.
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