McCain Picks Palin

[jochhejaam]

Feminist has a negative connotation to me. But maybe I am misunderstanding the definition in this case.

As I stated at the beginning of this post, I am very interested to know what this canidate means when she calls herself a feminist.

I think you would approve. FFL, "Feminist's FOR Life", means exactly that, women who are Pro-life.

http://www.feministsforlife.org/FAQ/index.htm

[Mr. Peabody]

Are you parroting some political hacks opinions about the debates, or are you forming these nonsensical conclusions all by yourself?

Intelligent people will judge the outcome of a debate after it's taken place, but regardless of their outcome, VP debates have never been the deciding factor in who takes the White House.

I agree with you that the VP debates don't decide the White House. However, I didn't like the fact that Cheney made Edwards look like a newb four years ago. Did it change the election? No, Kerry would have lost no matter what. But it does help reinforce a narrative if it's already there.

Also, being a policy wonk doesn't guarantee a good showing at the debate. In 2000, Al Gore showed off how much he knew in every debate and still lost. In fact, the mainstream media said that Gore came off as pompous.

It will be an interesting debate to watch.

[whottt]

Pagecount = win? Does this mean the 9/11 truthers win too?

How old is the 9/11 thread? This one is a day old.

[Mr. Peabody]

How old is the 9/11 thread? This one is a day old.

The majority of the thread is TPark and BuddyHolly going at it.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This chick is hot. She's a milf. Her T's are big. I'd give her the slippyfist. If McCain wins, dies, and Palin ran for re-election, I'm calling that I vote for her right now due to her hotness alone.
Boioiioioioooioioiiing

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I totally disagree that Romney was a blatantly better choice....you have to realize how much the common christian views a common mormon with disgust. And McCain is aiming for voters in the center....you don't get those with a guy named ing Mitt that is probably a 12th generation rich guy.
This pick was a curve ball but probably will help him in teh same ball park as any other candidate.

My only question......I thought women were supposed to be smart....so...shouldn't they feel insulted that McCain thinks they're so stupid that they will now vote for him, issues aside, because he picked a hot big tied running mate? I mean come on.
But then again, my premise was that women are smart..

[AFBlue]

There's alot of intrigue surrounding this pick, but I'm not sure that's a good thing. With McCain hanging pretty steady in the polls and with his message seemingly sticking, I think it is a big risk to go for a relative unknown quan y in Palin.

Positives:

- She's a woman.....a working woman with 5 children (4 at home). This will appeal to many women (republican, democrat, and independant) that hear her story and can identify with her. The whole bit about being a "hockey mom" should help her relate to middle-class voters.

- She's conservative. While being tagged as a "reformer", she is also reportedly a staunch pro-life advocate and a lifetime member of the NRA. Her selection will solidify that portion of the Republican base (which is large!) and add an appeal to voters in rural areas of the country.

- She's young....and attractive. With Obama on the other side, the Republicans needed some energy and a fresh appeal. From all accounts, Palin is a colorful and vibrant personality and could bring that zest that is needed for this campaign.

Negatives:

- She's young....and inexperienced. While I think it would be a mistake for the Obama campaign to get mired in a battle over experience by bringing hers up, it does take a bit of wind out of the sails for McCain's main argument against Obama.

- Is she ready to be President? The chief responsibility of a VP is to be able to step in as President if something should happen to him. While Palin has had more executive experience than Obama, she has never spent time on the national stage and appears to be facing a steep learning curve.

Unfortunately, we don't know enough about her to answer the question...but having it be a question is a negative in and of itself.

- She was picked for strategic reasons and was not deeply vetted. McCain went way outside the box with this one, having only met Palin once before telling her she was it. That kind of information makes it look absolutely transparent that this pick was made specifically for strategic reasons.

Add to that the fact that she wasn't completely vetted and is a relative unknown and you have a HIGH risk factor that something unpleasant will be brought up. Apparently something already has...a report that she in fact was a proponent of the "Bridge to Nowhere" in 2006 but made a specific reference to denouncing the plan in her first major address to the American public.


Bottom Line: Sarah Palin, a small-town "hockey mom" from Alaska, has just been thrust onto the national scene. She now has to prove that she has the grit and intelligence to keep her head above water and help McCain get elected as President.

Should be interesting....

[Nbadan]

hmmmmmm......

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I haven't read this thread through, but saw the le. Palin is an awesome pick. She basically ran against an in bent, won, threw out all the corrupt ers, looked at the budget they had and all the oil money coming in and said ' that, we're spending on we don't need' and cut it all. And told the oil companies that we need them, but we don't need them.

Palin's going to own Biden's ass in the VP debate, and this pulls in all the women who were going to vote for Hillary just because she was a woman. I really thought Palin would be on the ticket in 2016 as the Republican presidential candidate, but this is even better.

Mother of all trump cards for McCain, and she's going to bring in a ton of votes for the Republican ticket. Love it.

[Nbadan]

Here we go...

Sarah Palin posed naked?
August 29, 2008 – 5:26 pm

Today, presidential hopeful John McCain announced his presidential running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin. Besides being ridiculously unqualified to be a vice president, she may have an exceptionally seedy past (pictures below the fold).

In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla contest earlier, then finished second in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant, which won her a scholarship to help pay her way through college. In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute and also won Miss Congeniality. I’ll be honest, I have no idea what Miss Congeniality means besides a movie I was forced to watch with my first girlfriend.

But what do all beauty pageant winners do after they win, but find out they have no marketable skills? 1) Go to school for Journalism 2) pose naked.

I want to stress these images have NOT been confirmed, and this is just a rumor sent in from a reader. The picture to the right is (mostly) confirmed taken in 1984, of Sarah Palin. I am not sure about the two pictures after the jump at all. Do not take my word for this until you have received more confirmation.

Jabberwonk

Forum WMD pledge: If there are nude photos of this chick floating around on the internets we'll find em!

[whottt]

Here we go...

Sarah Palin posed naked?
August 29, 2008 – 5:26 pm

Jabberwonk

Forum WMD pledge: If there are nude photos of this chick floating around on the internets we'll find em!

Nbadan=integrity

[circ]

didn't i see this girl on Bookworm es

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Please find the nudes, would probably get her ticket more votes

[Mr. Peabody]

didn't i see this girl on Bookworm es

It's not Sarah Palin. It's the Overstock.com girl. Google Images had the picture mislabeled.

[Mr. Peabody]

Please find the nudes, would probably get her ticket more votes

She's a former beauty queen and wannabe sports reporter. I can almost guarantee you that there are nudes out there.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Wow... what a shock! Dems don't like the pick, Repubs support it... what has changed?? A lot of people are arguing about the effect these VP picks are going to have on the American vote... meanwhile, they haven't even changed a damn thing in this forum. Same people arguing the same tired points from the same tired angles without even the slightest chance of budging.

Face it, %99 of this forum came in to this election with their mind set, and nothing either candidate does, short of changing parties, is ever going to change anybody's vote in here. Rabid partisanship at its most evident...

[whottt]

Wow... what a shock! Dems don't like the pick, Repubs support it... what has changed?? A lot of people are arguing about the effect these VP picks are going to have on the American vote... meanwhile, they haven't even changed a damn thing in this forum. Same people arguing the same tired points from the same tired angles without even the slightest chance of budging.

Face it, %99 of this forum came in to this election with their mind set, and nothing either candidate does, short of changing parties, is ever going to change anybody's vote in here. Rabid partisanship at its most evident...

The people that do the most yapping on internet political forums generally are locked into their beliefs...that's why they post in internet political forums. Not indicative of the voting majority of America...if they were, Kerry would be President.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

The people that do the most yapping on internet political forums generally are locked into their beliefs...that's why they post in internet political forums. Not indicative of the voting majority of America...if they were, Kerry would be President.

I hope you're right, I'd hate to believe the future of a country like the US lies in the hands of people that treat their elections like sports fans. Ex. My ing country.

[Nbadan]

Dude, your country is riding a one-horse pony.....

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Dude, your country is riding a one-horse pony.....

translation?

[Nbadan]

You have no economy

[Nbadan]

So let's review...according to Whott..

Palin is qualified to be commander of the United States Military because she is CIC of the Alaska National Guard (who have been under her direct control exactly...never...in her lengthy term of 18 months). The Alaska Army National Guard has, wait for it, 1850 members and an annual budget of $20 million (about what is spent in Iraq in an hour and a half).

She has deep international diplomacy experience because her state is near Russia (Steve Doocy Fox News). Using that logic, I am a doctor because I live near a hospital.

She has more "executive" experience (due to her expansive experience as governor of Alaska (population 670,000) for 18 months and Mayor of Wasilla (population 8500) for a couple of years, than Obama and Biden...combined.

This is all the Right Wing delusionals have offered in defense of this amazingly inept woman who would be one 72 year old feeble heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world.

Using their disjointed logic, I would like to offer the republicans some more talking points to defend Mrs. Palin:

Sarah Palin is qualified to manage the Food and Drug Administration because she makes a mean batch of Tollhouse Cookies and has administered Children's Tylenol more times than she can count.

Mrs. Palin can guide the Department of Education with her in Depth PTA experience and skill in coloring in the lines (she was head of a local PTA for several years, more years, in fact than Obama and Biden...combined).

Sarah can greatly improve the efficiency of the Environmental Protection Agency by utilizing skills acquired in "cleaning up" after 5 kids.

She killed a bear when she was only 3.

Governor Palin will be able to balance the bloated federal budget using only coupons and falling prices at local WalMarts for all federal expenditures.

The republicans are lucky to have such a well rounded candidate, Mrs. Palin could easily coach an NBA team with her experience gleaned as Wasilla High School basketball team captain. A position for which Senator Obama has never and could never even qualify.

She will be able to communicate with international leaders, friend or foe, using her BACHELORS DEGREE IN JOURNALISM from the University of Idaho, neither Obama or Biden have a journalism degree from the prestigious U of I.

She will use her knowledge of compe ion to negotiate complex international trade agreements utilizing wisdom gained in winning Miss Wasilla 1984 and coming in second in the Miss Alaska compe ion.

Governor Palin will get Bin Laden - In 2007, Palin approved a $150 cash incentive for each Alaskan wolf to be killed by hunters in helicopters. The incentive was called a "bounty" for killing wolves by Alaska Wildlife Alliance Director John Toppenberg. Some people might say: Hey! Is it fair to use aircraft and high powered rifles to shoot defenseless wolves? If she will send people in helicopters with semi-automatic weapons to kill cute furry wolves, imagine what she will do to Bin Laden.

Palin is clearly the most qualified person to ever be nominated for vice president. This bold choice shows that John McCain is not afraid to break from tradition and boldly choose an outsider free from all that disgusting political experience, education and knowledge that the Democrats insist on foisting upon us.

With the choice of Sarah Heath Palin as the republican vice presidential candidate, Americans can rest assured that the second in command will be ready, willing and able to step in and rise to the standard put forth by George W. Bush for the last 8 years.

[Mr. Body]

Nbadan, clearly you're wrong. $20 million wouldn't last 20 minutes in Iraq.

[SnakeBoy]

Democrats have demonstrated that they are very good at under estimating their opponents. Losing twice to GW is clear proof of this fact. Judging from how they are dismissing Palin it looks like they might be doing it yet again. Maybe they should take notice of this quote from an old article on Palin...

"The landscape is littered with the bodies of those who crossed Sarah," says pollster Dave Dittman, who worked for her gubernatorial campaign. It includes Ruedrich, Renkes, Murkowski, gubernatorial contenders John Binkley and Andrew Halcro, the three big oil companies in Alaska, and a section of the Daily News called "Voice of the Times," which was highly critical of Palin and is now defunct.

[efrem1]

Palin is a great tonic for the GOP. She goes against porkers within her own party like Stevens and Young and doesn't take any gruff. Romney had too much baggage like the Health care and Big Dig debacles in Massachusetts and Pawlenty wouldn't light any fires for anybody for McCain to select.