Disturbing trend...

[South Side Spurs Fan]

When Mason hit that shot X-Mas day, who drew in tho defense???? I mean really????

And, as Pedro says, "I would like to see more of that..."

Late in the game when they key on him. Set someone else up. We all know he has the ability...noone is arguing that. And he has had success doing that this season late.

Why harp on this? This becomes a big deal in the playoffs. TIMVP can stack stats to the ceiling, but they won't make a difference in the playoffs. The best teams are always able to take away your #1 option. Unless your Michael Jordan's Bulls. We even had success against Kobe in Bruce's heyday.

[bugmenot]

Here are stats for turnovers in the clutch adjusted to 48 minutes of game play:

Duncan - 4.9 turnovers
Ginobili - 4.5 turnovers
Parker - 1.6 turnovers

Parker is the turnover prone player in the clutch according to re ed Spursfans??????

[RC's Boss]

easy now hotrod - read my entire post and understand that I'm only talking about the possibility of using Hill if Tony is struggling in a certain part of the game. To suggest that it's not an option is in fact ignorant. I'm not saying that Hill should supplant Parker, but I'm saying it would be a nice weapon to use in certain rare occasions if Hill is ready to handle it.

Your 2nd option does not sit on the bench for a rookie.... WTH???? Logic has left the building!!!! Pop: Hey Tony, I'm gonna go w/ Hill on this one. You're struggling. Tony: Pop, I think you need some psychiatric help! Manu: Lay off the wine old man. Tim: I'm telling the Holts to can your ass ASAP!

[Shastafarian]

Your 2nd option does not sit on the bench for a rookie.... WTH???? Logic has left the building!!!! Pop: Hey Tony, I'm gonna go w/ Hill on this one. You're struggling. Tony: Pop, I think you need some psychiatric help! Manu: Lay off the wine old man. Tim: I'm telling the Holts to can your ass ASAP!

The only reason the sit Parker at the end was it looked like he was about one sprint down the floor from puking. He looked very tired.

[RC's Boss]

And, as Pedro says, "I would like to see more of that..."

Late in the game when they key on him. Set someone else up. We all know he has the ability...noone is arguing that. And he has had success doing that this season late.

Why harp on this? This becomes a big deal in the playoffs. TIMVP can stack stats to the ceiling, but they won't make a difference in the playoffs. The best teams are always able to take away your #1 option. Unless your Michael Jordan's Bulls. We even had success against Kobe in Bruce's heyday.

Apply for a job smart guy. Sit in on a practice and give Pop your keys to victory. He looks like he could use a good laugh.

[2centsworth]

you always want your best players in the game at the end, but there are going to be rare occasions when a player struggles. Has Hill developed enough in Pop's mind to put him in when Parker is struggling in a big game? I don't think Parker's the type of player that would sulk because of that. I think if anything it would make him work harder - it could be a good thing.

Tony is our best option at PG. It would take an entire season of Tony being horrible in crunch time situations for Pop to pull him. Don't get me wrong, I love what GHill did tonight and think the sky is the limit for the kid. However, Tony is Godzilla.

[South Side Spurs Fan]

Here are stats for turnovers in the clutch adjusted to 48 minutes of game play:

Duncan - 4.9 turnovers
Ginobili - 4.5 turnovers
Parker - 1.6 turnovers

Parker is the turnover prone player in the clutch according to re ed Spursfans??????

Where did you get your stats?

[ducks]

Did Not The Spurs Beat The ing Lakers?

[Shastafarian]

Where did you get your stats?

I'd guess www.82games.com

[jcrod]

It will never end, you freaking people are unbelievable.

[pawe]

Some Spurs fans are insatiable. Just imagine what other fans would give to get a pg like Tony Parker playing for their team.

[Shastafarian]

Oh and waiting for the names on that list.

still waiting timvp

[2centsworth]

Some Spurs fans are insatiable. Just imagine what other fans would give to get a pg like Tony Parker playing for their team.

It's Tony and Chris Paul, PERIOD!!!!

[underdawg]

Your 2nd option does not sit on the bench for a rookie.... WTH???? Logic has left the building!!!! Pop: Hey Tony, I'm gonna go w/ Hill on this one. You're struggling. Tony: Pop, I think you need some psychiatric help! Manu: Lay off the wine old man. Tim: I'm telling the Holts to can your ass ASAP!

Maybe you're right that TD, TP and Manu wouldn't let Pop do that, but I have a hunch that at the end of the day they would support whatever it takes to win - kinda of like Manu coming off the bench. I'm just saying that there are going to be times (extemely rare if they are) where a player can be more effective than another player and it's great that we have the depth to utilize that. Please understand that I'm not saying Hill should get more playing time in crucial moments than Parker.

[timvp]

still waiting timvp

I'm not doing your homework for you.

You can probably find some here. Go do some digging and let me know what find.

Thanks.

[Shastafarian]

I'm not doing your homework for you.

You can probably find some here. Go do some digging and let me know what find.

Thanks.

haha thought so. Are you gonna find my posts where I blame parker? That wouldn't be doing my homework for me.

[timvp]

haha thought so. Are you gonna find my posts where I blame parker? That wouldn't be doing my homework for me.

No, I told you I gave up. You and other New Age Spurs Fans win. Parker sucks or doesn't suck. Up to you. If you want to claim yourself as the biggest TP fan on the forum, be my guest. You and your ilk won.

Congrats

[Shastafarian]

No, I told you I gave up. You and other New Age Spurs Fans win. Parker sucks or doesn't suck. Up to you. If you want to claim yourself as the biggest TP fan on the forum, be my guest. You and your ilk won.

Congrats

Cool. Nice parting dig.

[baseline bum]

Some Spurs fans are insatiable. Just imagine what other fans would give to get a pg like Tony Parker playing for their team.

I wish all the detractors would imagine how much Spurs fans would have killed to have Parker from 85 to 02.

[South Side Spurs Fan]

No, I told you I gave up. You and other New Age Spurs Fans win. Parker sucks or doesn't suck. Up to you. If you want to claim yourself as the biggest TP fan on the forum, be my guest. You and your ilk won.

Congrats

Are you so naive that everything has to be black and white? Why must Parker suck or not suck?

Why can't we discuss his obvious issues without this whole damn thing blowing up?

A lot of folks were agreeing with the post until the "TP saviour-squad" rolled in the building.

He's a teamate, just like the rest of the guys. He's susceptible to criticism just like anyone else. And by no means does this thread bash TP.

[timvp]

Are you so naive that everything has to be black and white? Why must Parker suck or not suck?

Why can't we discuss his obvious issues without this whole damn thing blowing up?

A lot of folks were agreeing with the post until the "TP saviour-squad" rolled in the building.

He's a teamate, just like the rest of the guys. He's susceptible to criticism just like anyone else. And by no means does this thread bash TP.

Victory is yours.

[South Side Spurs Fan]

I wish all the detractors would imagine how much Spurs fans would have killed to have Parker from 85 to 02.

Some of us thought we had the next MJ in Antonio Daniels.

[Spurs#1]

Parker sucked in the 4th quarter tonight, anyone want to argue with that?

[South Side Spurs Fan]

Victory is yours.

Not Victory.

But I will always be en led to my opinion. As are the other members of the board.

You may bang the "If we only had TP in '83" drum all you want, and all the "new age spurs fans" BS you care to, but there are those of us who adored the little general, and who cried when these guys lost to the blazers in the WCF, then again to the rockets...and still think that Parker needs to trust his teamates more when the other team keys on him and the game is on the line.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Parker sucked in the 4th quarter tonight, anyone want to argue with that?

i see ur trying to call the haters out tonight

who let da haters out? hoo hoo hoo