Is Kobe going to be the greatest player to never with a ring?

[z0sa]

Yah, real favorites, Boston +400 payout.

who said they were favorites smart guy? who said they aren't the underdog?

you're the one going on about major upsets, homer.

[BRHornet45]

sons the answer is YES. Let me refresh your memories. god bless ....

1999-00 NBA Finals MVP - Shaquille O'Neal
2000-01 NBA Finals MVP - Shaquille O'Neal
2001-02 NBA Finals MVP - Shaquille O'Neal

[Allanon]

who said they were favorites smart guy? who said they aren't the underdog?

you're the one going on about major upsets, homer.

Spurs, Cavs, or Boston beating LA would not be a major upset. Period. Boston most definitely is favored in a series after last Finals.

Spurs +500 payout <-- Underdog
Boston +400 payout <-- Underdog
Cavs +200 payout <-- Underdog

Lakers +80 payout <-- Favorite

Underdog beats Favorite=Upset

[z0sa]

Underdog(anyone) beats Lakers=Major Upset

according to you

[z0sa]

The Lakers are "supposed" to win, anything else is a failure.

if this isn't homer talk, dunno what is

[lefty]

Starting this thread was stupid to begin with.

Sure, Kobe hasn't won since Shaq left, but he was still a contributor during the 3-peat.

The guy was part of the dynamic duo; Shaq wouldn't have won without Kobe either.

And to be fair, Kobe had a ty team around him after Shaq, GP and Malone left

[Allanon]

according to you

and the billion (trillion?) dollar betting industry.

[z0sa]

Kobe has 3 championship rings.....and he'll win another.......barring a major upset, perhaps this June.

mytespurs always calls it like it is, whether it's about the Lakers, the Spurs or the Bobcats.

Too bad all Spurs fans couldn't be so objective.

lol, Boston or Cavs or even Spurs beating the Lakers would not be a major upset. You're being subjective, not the opposite.

Exhibit A.

[Allanon]

Spurs +500 payout <-- Underdog
Boston +400 payout <-- Underdog
Cavs +200 payout <-- Underdog

Lakers +80 payout <-- Favorite

[z0sa]

Underdog(anyone) beats Lakers=Major Upset

[z0sa]

and the billion (trillion?) dollar betting industry.

they go off of one factor: odds. The odds don't specify whether or not a matchup would be a major upset or not, only which team is favored to win.

[Allanon]

Zosa's Homer's Paradise Casino:

Spurs -1000 payout
Celtics -800 payout
Cavs -400 payout

Lakers +5000 payout

[z0sa]

i'm clearly angry someone said another team beating my Kobes would not require a major upset.

you're just too much of a homer that you misread the "major" part when you got all butthurt someone disagreed with you.

[Allanon]

you're just too much of a homer that you misread the "major" part when you got all butthurt someone disagreed with you.

Oh, so now you realize it is an upset but want to differentiate between different kinds of upsets.

Ok.....I'm a homer. Just go have a look at the posts by your fellow Spurs fans today. Those are the posts of a team that is winning it all.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2

[z0sa]

Oh, so now you realize it is an upset but want to differentiate between different kinds of upsets.

Ok.....

i clearly said major upset from the first reply I made. you're the one who can't read

you should learn english.

^^ lol, pathetic edit. I could give a what a handful of spurfan's opinions are, first and foremost.

second, it has literally NOTHING to do with Cavs or Boston beating LA not equalling a major upset Boston are the defending champs, no matter what vegas odds have going, they're the team to beat.

[Allanon]

i clearly said major upset from the first reply I made. you're the one who can't read

Sure you can say I'm a homer, let's have a look at your fellow Spurs fans who think the Spurs are winning it all this year:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2

There are some real tasty tidbits on your champion Spurs there.

Some of my favorites "The Boys are toast, dudes"

Yup obviously no major upset there.

[z0sa]

i misread what you said which is why i'm changing the subject

again, i give <2 s about what the cliffjumpers in the Spurs forum are saying.

[Allanon]

again, i give <2 s about what the cliffjumpers in the Spurs forum are saying.

Ah yes, Zosa's world, Spurs 2009 Champs, Uber-Favorites and team of the next 10 decades.

[z0sa]

Ah yes, Zosa's world, Spurs 2009 Champs.

Yes.

Allanon's world, where the defending champs beating LA is a major upset.

[Allanon]

Yes.

Allanon's world, where the defending champs beating LA is a major upset.

Only a few $billion on the line in my world.

Boston +400
Lakers +80

[z0sa]

Only a few $billion on the line in my world.

Boston +400
Lakers +80

04-05 Laker odds before the season: 5/2
your world can be full of , last I checked Kobe didn't make the playoffs that year.

you're a big fan of hollinger.

[Allanon]

Boston Celtics repeat chances growing slimmer

[hitmanyr2k]

The Jazz, Hornets, Mavs, Blazers, or Nuggets beating the Lakers in the playoffs would be a major upset.

The Celtics are defending champs. Those guys beating LA would not be a major upset. The Cavs have arguably the best player in the league and the best record in the league. If they were to beat LA in the Finals would anyone in the basketball world be shocked? I doubt it.

[Allanon]

The Jazz, Hornets, Mavs, Blazers, or Nuggets beating the Lakers in the playoffs would be a major upset.

The Celtics are defending champs. Those guys beating LA would not be a major upset.
The Cavs have arguably the best player in the league and the best record in the league. If they were to beat LA in the Finals would anyone in the basketball world be shocked? I doubt it.

The Celtics are underdogs because they are missing KG and his health is questionable. Vegas is giving bettors a +400 return...that's crazy high.

The Spurs are underdogs because the health of Manu and Duncan is questionable. Vegas is giving bettors a +500 return...that's super-duper high.

The Cavs are underdogs because the health of Ben Wallace is questionable and the Cavs were blown out by the Lakers twice. Vegas is giving bettors +200 return, that's also high. Not as high but they are obviously underdogs to the Lakers and would be a major upset to win.

Thus the Lakers are the clear favorites with the only healthy team.

[anonoftheinternets]

The Celtics are underdogs because they are missing KG and his health is questionable. Vegas is giving bettors a +400 return...that's crazy high.

The Spurs are underdogs because the health of Manu and Duncan is questionable. Vegas is giving bettors a +500 return...that's super-duper high.

The Cavs are underdogs because the health of Ben Wallace is questionable and the Cavs were blown out by the Lakers twice. Vegas is giving bettors +200 return, that's also high. Not as high but they are obviously underdogs to the Lakers and would be a major upset to win.

Thus the Lakers are the clear favorites with the only healthy team.

cmon man, show some respect to the defending champs. if lakers do win this year, they would be favs for next. Deal?

Defending champs always > betting odds. One is fact and the other is conjecture.

To be the man, u have to beat the man. Just looking like u may beat the man is not enough. (See Dallas 2007).