at the 2nd one.
They'll base whatever they do from now on, on this case and this case only. Without any doubt. What else can they do?
Dr. Gates has emboldened s everywhere.
By dismissing the charges against him, so has the Cambridge PD!
I know.
So what?
The police could still just leave.
And Gates could have gone inside. Its getting circular now isn't it. Shared blame, but Gates made the biggest mistake, he broke a law, even if it is a vague law.
Hey, the Cons ution applies to " s" like Gates and boot licking pussies like Cobra Commander as well.They'll base whatever they do from now on, on this case and this case only. Without any doubt. What else can they do?
Dr. Gates has emboldened s everywhere.
By dismissing the charges against him, so has the Cambridge PD!
After he provided ID. Yeah he followed him to give him a sizable piece of his mind. He shouldn't have done that but all the officer had to do was get in car and leave. He chose to stay and allow the situation to worsen.
black s or s in general?Dr. Gates has emboldened s everywhere.
By dismissing the charges against him, so has the Cambridge PD!
and yeah, dismissing the charges was a "bad" move, but disorderly conducts are normally handled that way for first time offenders.
Why are you talking about what didn't happen. Thanks for admitting he had to make assumptions anyway.
Seriously. When you have a hotel room, don't you call it your room?Another fact here - the house DID NOT belong to Gates. The house is owned by Harvard and Gates was just the tenant. Gates has an enormous ego and I think he was furious that the white cop didn't recognize him (after all he's a friend of Obama and has been on Oprah) and "dared" to ask him for ID.
So what? He's a blowhard.Gates started screaming the cop was racist as soon as he opened the door. He was the one who kept screaming at the cops and all the neighbors gathered around that "this is what happens if you're a black man in America".
Were the police under the obligation to arrest him exclusive of any other course of action?The whole situation could have been resolved if the Professor had just showed his ID, explained what had happened and thanked Officer Crowley for making sure there WASN'T a burglary in progress - after all, that residence had been broken into before.
Yes or no.
professor jackass chose to make this worse. do you know that whenever you are reprimanded/stopped/questioned by an officer you are technically arrested and must follow them. he was leaving. he was on the damn sidewalk and professor jackass decided to make a spectacle of himself. the cop warned him. professor jackass ignored him. he was arrested. job well done.
No.
Was Gates under any obligation to follow the laws and ordinances of the city that he lives in?
Yes or no.
Agree 100%. That's where my argument started out.
Self-styled conservatives on this board seem to think being a is illegal, when in fact it is neither immoral nor even unethical.
Unless it is accompanied by unruly or dangerous conduct, the mere fact of acting like a is free expression, not a crime.
That police tend to overlook this and make arrests based on bad words and hurt feelings, rather than actual complaints of public disorder, shows their contempt for the traditional liberty we are supposed to enjoy, at the very least at our own homes.
And naturally "conservatives" who crow about the end of the Cons ution or "America" when the specter of national health care looms are perfectly content to read the Cons ution as one which favors the state over the individual, as well as one which protects your rights so long as you worship the state's agents properly. It's no surprise that Yanni and Cobra Commander would fall for the unitary executive theory.
Expecting people to obey established laws created by the community and state they live in, while wanting to avoid creating new, even more controlling laws and programs at the federal level, is bad?
You may be getting confused here, local laws are fine, as long as they don't violate the cons ution or federal laws. Federal programs that do things not expressly stated as a power of the federal government by the cons ution is bad.
if you just change the color of his skin, it wouldn't have happened.
just do that and there's not even a call to 911.
, the caller said there were 2 black men.
Americans, circa 1776:
"Give me liberty or give me death!"
Americans, circa now:
"Keep your mouth shut and obey the authority."
I can't believe 12 pages of discussion appeared over night. >.>
Can someone tell me why it is so hard for an educated person to understand the the police officer's initial concern over the situation? From reading the police report, I feel that there was nothing strange about the officer's requests. I'm sure there are recorded audio of the 911 call about the two black dudes with backpacks (yea, maybe some racial bias, but who isn't more afraid of 2 black guys with backpacks than 2 white guys loitering outside a house?), and the officer's conversation with Gates. If something wrong was done on the part of the police officer and the OTHER units that responded...it will come to light and justice will be served.
Always cooperate with the police officer, it's simple. The officer told him to stop making a scene, brotha man kept making a scene and got arrested. Yea, maybe it was a little overboard to take him to jail, but INTENT to antagonize the police officer and disturb the peace was there. Like someone else said, job well done to the officer.
I can't wait for Obama and the cop to grab a Blue Moon together and sort this whole mess out.
Yes, the driver that dropped him off from the airport had already left by the time the police arrived.
holy !!!! are you a real person?I can't believe 12 pages of discussion appeared over night. >.>
Can someone tell me why it is so hard for an educated person to understand the the police officer's initial concern over the situation? From reading the police report, I feel that there was nothing strange about the officer's requests. I'm sure there are recorded audio of the 911 call about the two black dudes with backpacks (yea, maybe some racial bias, but who isn't more afraid of 2 black guys with backpacks than 2 white guys loitering outside a house?), and the officer's conversation with Gates. If something wrong was done on the part of the police officer and the OTHER units that responded...it will come to light and justice will be served.
Always cooperate with the police officer, it's simple. The officer told him to stop making a scene, brotha man kept making a scene and got arrested. Yea, maybe it was a little overboard to take him to jail, but INTENT to antagonize the police officer and disturb the peace was there. Like someone else said, job well done to the officer.
I can't wait for Obama and the cop to grab a Blue Moon together and sort this whole mess out.
keeping your mouth shut and not being a jackass are two different things.
Or . . . "Don't be a bag and follow a cop outside and loudly berate him in public when he's already leaving you alone."
he already left?
see, if they had been white, there wouldn't have been a call at all.
This country used to be safer for jackasses. I miss it.
Oh, no confusion here.
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