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Winning in Basketball>MVP or anything else
Hey I'll take the help if it gets my team 4 lesyeah he does, kobe leads with the most help coming from a teammate
So ChrisRichards is to you...What you are to Kobe...interestingYou're a troll because you tried to say you were me, asshole
and you are a Laker fan in disguise. It's clear you are no heat fan.
You say you hate me so much, but here you are, wasting your time trolling me.
Jokes on you
Winning in Basketball>MVP or anything else
Hey I'll take the help if it gets my team 4 lesyeah he does, kobe leads with the most help coming from a teammate
Yeah rings should be used in conjunction with actually watching the games...and when you do that it's pretty clear Kobe>Lebron, at least to me. And it's clear Kobe>Lebron>Horry
40-8-8 doesn't necessarily equal another players 40-8-8...Did one player play better defense, did he get his teammates EASY shots rather than making them stand around waiting for a pass (LeIso), Did he get timely momentum changing baskets, etc.
Why? Because you either on:
1. Crack
2. Live in the "land of Happily ever after"
3. Are from Cleveland
4. Are a hater
Oh dont get me wrong the gap narrows year by year but most real basketball folks compare Kobe to MJ (even if he falls short) Lebron comparisons are sooo last year ...
Stats can tell you whatever you want I could put plenty up that show Kobe is betetr and Mj is better than both ..who cares? Postiong stats are gonna change a Kobe hater's mind?
So ppl that think Lebron is > Kobe are Kobe haters.
ppl that think Jordan > Kobe are also Kobe haters.
gotcha lakerfan
as I said. Lakerfans = insecure
+1...just do a search of his recent posts/threads...almost all of them are Kobe-related (seriously, check it out for yourself)Lets see... You both post about the same thing. You are both HeatFans. And he responds to posts directed at you as if they were directed at him. And you went back and edited the post after I caught you.
And to the post you edited... yes this is a basketball forum idiot. And Kobe is the ONLY basketball player you obsess over. So much that you even made another account to obsess over him with so that it would seem less obvious.He's on your mind all the time. It's funny how you feel the need to obsess about how NOT good someone supposedly is.
MiamiHeat continually makes an idiot out of himself...we know you're a closet Laker fan or you wouldn't post about them as often as you do.
No people that think MJ is better (that SAW him play) reasonable and valid.
People that say Lebron > kobe = Dwight>Duncan
Physically you would want Howard and Lebron no doubt but the game is MUCH more than that .. give me Kobe and Duncan and some solid role players and I'll take that team against anyone .. Kobe and Duncan are proven winners and champions so far both Lebron and Howard were found wanting when it mattered most ...and have lost in the Finals to these guys ...
wrong. I can actually see how some ppl might think Dwight > Duncan, especially Magic fans. They are not Duncan haters in my book.
maybe because I am not insecure??
Hey, you Lake Show fans are the ones using rings as the only criteria. If you're going to make it all about rings you have to take the organizations, the front offices, the coaching and the supporting casts into account.
Can i ask you a question Laker fans? If Kobe had 0 Championships right now who would you consider better Kobe or LeBron
Kobe.
James is way over hyped.
stupid question
people are already calling bron as the better player despite not having any championship. if kobe does'nt have a le right now, he'd be on gilbert arenas, joe johnson status. all star player that can put up huge points but thats it.
im askin that LA fans because they are obssesed with kobe that they dont even see that LeBron would be still better but they cant except it.
Oh my bad bro. But we already know tha answer to that too...
if Kobe has 0 and lebron has 0, they both be fail and noone would be talking about them just like Arenas, Bosh, Johnson. Thats why Lebron is overhyped...great stats and hasnt achieved a damn thing.
Kobe will be a bigger fail. Ask me why.
why? cuz he didnt he didnt want to in your mouth?
Smart mouth.
Kobe will be a bigger failure because at season 14 and still without a ring, he would be no better than Allen Iverson.
It's not just 'some' statistics than point in LeBron's favor.
It's almost EVERY SINGLE one.
Even the "Clutch Factor" statistics. LeBron is ahead... in fact, Kobe ranks right below the top 10 in Clutch Factor.
and you can't say Kobe plays better D anymore.
LeBron is playing defense. Just last year, the big issue everyone had with LeBron is that he wasn't a defender. ESPN analyst after ESPN analyst would point to the fact that Kobe gets it done on both ends of the floor and that's why they considered him a better player than LeBron. But those days are over. LeBron is a defensive stand-out. I'm not saying he's the best defender ever now, but those AP guys did vote him to the first-team All Defense this year, meaning that they considered him among the top 5 defenders in the league. Yes, Kobe was right there alongside of him, but no longer can anyone say that Kobe's defense is what separates him from LeBron, because right now there is little separation in that department, if any.
Wrong. Kobe has hit the most gamewinners in the NBA with 3 seconds or less since 2005 ...
Lebron makes great blocks and HAS IMPROVED on defense but he is not a shutdown defender ....When focused Kobe still is ...
And I am NOT saying ...that EVERYONE who thinks Lebron is better is a Kobe hater that was just talking crap ...
Im just saying that if you watch the game with no bias, or have played the game at a high level you can SEE with your own EYES that Kobe's skill level is on a much higher plane than Lebron. Lebron is now (and always was) the better athlete and I think he may even have that edge on MJ. But where he lacks:
1. Clutch shot making Lebron has gotten better no doubt about it and his willingness to pass makes him especially dangerous IF his guys are hot.
But every GM or player poll shows that Kobe would be chosen to take that shot STILL ...until this changes Kobe is more clutch
2.Lebron's foot work (except where it matters MOST on the dancefloor LOL) is suspect on defense and in the post ...watch Lebron on a regular basis his inside game is all speed and power and his blocks are hops ...his foot work sucks (well needs work) that is why he travels so much ...
3. HIS FT shooting still is suspect ...i know I chose him first in my FANTASY draft ..over Kobe, Wade and CP3 and he kills me ...a player of his baliber should be 85% and above as much as he gets fouled at that rate he would probaly outscore Melo and Kobe ...easily ...
The things Lebron does Exceptional now drive, pass, dunk and come from behind blocks ...dont make up for Kobe's superior post game, foot work, shot making mid-range game use of his left ...
If im making a tape of b-ball between the two defense (JVG pointed this out vs. Miami) I use kobe, jumpshot: Kobe, post game: Kobe FT? Kobe Only thing I use for Lebron? Dunking and Passing that is it ...
Anyone that would argue otherwise don't know ball ...
Kobe has taken the most, and missed the most, clutch shots since 2005
LeBron is much higher efficiency in clutch time than Kobe does.
Fact
Kobe being the best closer is a myth
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