Gasol, Phil Jackson upset about Kobe's shooting

[TheMACHINE]

"I dont like Kobe cuz he dont pass"...wah wah! go ing cry some more. If you dont like Kobe cuz he dont pass the ball...go ing sniff Cp3 or steve nash's jock strap then. Noone gives a flying if you guys dont like Kobe.

have a nice day.

[TheManFromAcme]

It was a pretty good way to sum it up I thought. I mean Kobe is smart like you said. That is why he is not Ricky Davis or Stephon Marbury. Those guys had no clue what was going on.

I don't know, but I really think this is the example why I don't like Kobe. Can you guys understand where some of the hate comes from now? I just don't like that sort of game and to me it looks contrived most of the time when Kobe passes the ball. Not like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan they play a team game where the only thing that counts is the win. Stats don't mean a thing.

With you. It's all about the win. I know he wants to cement his legacy and deservedly so but if he's doing what is being claimed then, yeah, he doesn't shine a light to the Magic's and Bird's of the game, IF he is indeed playing selfishly. I am honest enough to admit I turn the other cheek but I do tend to turn around and see some aspects of his game that, well, confuse me at times. I am hoping he realizes that because although the twilight of his career is still way yonder over there on the horizon, it's approaching him and winning more LOB's for the franchise would probably solidfy his legacy much more than an individual milestone or stat.

[Will Hunting]

I don't think it can be overstated enough how stupid ChrisRichard aka MiamiHeat aka Stretch aka JT aka Mono is.

America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.

[ffadicted]

When will laker fans at least admit there's a flaw to Kobe's game? I mean, at least spurs fans admit Manu's old/Jefferson has failed so far/Bonner sucks balls/TD lost a step on D/Parker is off/etc... Kobe isn't perfect, and it's not like this no passing is knew, it's just who he is, a volume shooter, not a point guard. In some games that'll work for you, but yesterday it didn't, and it won't on a lot of nights. Kobe's playing with the best frontcourt in the NBA, and becomes a blackhole on the offensive end sometimes, there's no denying that, just the same as there is no denying Kobe is one of the greatest scorers of all time, and still probably the best in the NBA.

It is what is is

[024]

i rather watch kobe chuck a contested jump shot than watch pau and bynum shoot high percentage shots in the low post. keep it up kobe. don't let others tell you you're not good enough. keep shooting.

[TheMACHINE]

Kobe shoots 58% last night, and you guys are whining about him taking too many shots in a 2 point loss on the road.

I can understand this kind of thread when he shot 30% in 35 shots, but this is plain retarted.

[TheMACHINE]

i rather watch kobe chuck a contested jump shot than watch pau and bynum shoot high percentage shots in the low post. keep it up kobe. don't let others tell you you're not good enough. keep shooting.

yah keep shooting...whooop on the Spurs ass some more and get another ring like LAST YEAR.

[JamStone]

Kobe's selfish? Kobe's a chucker? Kobe shoots a lot?

Stop the presses! This is breaking news.

We know. We all know. That's how it is. That's how it's going to be.

This is beyond obsession at this point.

[024]

i'm going to add this quote in this thread since chrisrichards/miamiheat missed it.

Are the Lakers a better team when they go inside? "One hundred percent," Gasol said.

Does everybody know that?

"I'm not sure," he said.

[ambchang]

You Kobe haters are just de able. You have to realize that this is not about Kobe, it's about Kobe's fans. You are not dissing on some guy who would never read your posts, you are dissing the legions and legions of Kobe fans who frequents this forum.

You are dismissing the greatest accomplishments of their lives, and it is downright cruel.

Besides, why does it matter to Kobe's fans that Kobe doesn't pass? They knew, they all knew. They don't care about the Laker's success unless it has something to help boost up Kobe. They still love him despite Kobe throwing his teammates, and even the organization, under the bus time and time again. The Lakers are merely an extremely well-ran organization that allows Kobe to win 4 les.

[j.dizzle]

LOL maybe if Pau mans up & stops playing like a sissy, he'll get the ball.

[angelbelow]

TBH Gasol has always been an awkward interviewee. He often says something that can be taken offensively.

[DDS4]

I think they should be more upset why Kobe isn't shutting it down for a couple of weeks when there's a bigger picture at stake.

[IronMexican]

Bynum has a bigger gripe than Pau Gasol. He's been playing like a pussy lately.

[The Gemini Method]

Bynum looked tentative out there in Memphis. I don't know if because he posts here, he got kind've s shocked and wanted to just make it out of Tenn. alive. It seemed to me that Gasol was being boxed out and denied position quite often by his brother and other Grizzlie defenders. There were positions where Gasol/Bynum/Artest would shoot the ball in the paint and there'd be a collapse in the lane.

The whole game was discombobulated and you kind've knew Kobe would go for the record. I hope the team plays better on Wednesday because the dreaded Charlotte Bobcats are in town and I'm attending the game...

[j.dizzle]

Bynum has a bigger gripe than Pau Gasol. He's been playing like a pussy lately.

Son, nobody on this site realizes that Pau has been playing like garbage lately, constantly fumbling the ball n ..Bynum on the other hand didnt look like he wanted the ball out of fear cuz of the Memphis injuries from the past. Odom took 9 shots & only made 2 of em..Artest was the only other player other that showed up.

[DAF86]

Kobe also leads the Lakers in assists…Does anyone here seriously believe that he would take more shots to pad his statistics….This thread is too darn funny…

Phill Jackson and Pau Gasol seem to think so.

[IronMexican]

Son, nobody on this site realizes that Pau has been playing like garbage lately, constantly fumbling the ball n ..Bynum on the other hand didnt look like he wanted the ball out of fear cuz of the Memphis injuries of the past. Odom took 9 shots & only made 2 of em..Artest was the only other player other that showed up.

Don't forget that Fisher shot something abysmal.


I'm not a Kobe fan by any means(You can look at Sunday's gameday thread for proof), but Kobe was the only reason LA was in the game yesterday.

[TheMACHINE]

You Kobe haters are just de able. You have to realize that this is not about Kobe, it's about Kobe's fans. You are not dissing on some guy who would never read your posts, you are dissing the legions and legions of Kobe fans who frequents this forum.

You are dismissing the greatest accomplishments of their lives, and it is downright cruel.

Besides, why does it matter to Kobe's fans that Kobe doesn't pass? They knew, they all knew. They don't care about the Laker's success unless it has something to help boost up Kobe. They still love him despite Kobe throwing his teammates, and even the organization, under the bus time and time again. The Lakers are merely an extremely well-ran organization that allows Kobe to win 4 les.

You contradict yourself so many times in this post. Like i said before... 2008 finals, 2009 championship, first place in the west. you really think us Lakers fans should be whining over something as petty as "Kobe doesnt pass". I'd be more worried about your mediocre franchise in San Antonio.

[DAF86]

Kobe's selfish? Kobe's a chucker? Kobe shoots a lot?

Stop the presses! This is breaking news.

We know. We all know. That's how it is. That's how it's going to be.

This is beyond obsession at this point.

No, it's not, but his coach and teammates calling him out for doing it is, which was this thread's subject.

[j.dizzle]

You contradict yourself so many times in this post. Like i said before... 2008 finals, 2009 championship, first place in the west. you really think us Lakers fans should be whining over something as petty as "Kobe doesnt pass". I'd be more worried about your mediocre franchise in San Antonio.

Dont worry about em, they know their teams window is pretty damn close to shutting so they gotta take out their anger on the teams or players that piss them off.

[TheMACHINE]

Phill Jackson and Pau Gasol seem to think so.

Phil Jackson also talks trash about San Antonio. Does anyone really care?

[TheMACHINE]

No, it's not, but his coach and teammates calling him out for doing it is, which was this thread's subject.

lets wait till someone says "kobe needs to pass me the ball" before we say teammates are "calling him out"

[The Gemini Method]

I'm guessing, while I'm at the game on Wednesday, they're going to feed the ball inside. At least for a good portion of the 1st half. I don't know why everyone decides it is best to go away from what works in this team. Maybe its Kobe or maybe its a combination of Kobe, Fisher, Farmar, and Brown--who are all guilty (esp. Jordan) of taking ill-advised shots. One and done way too many times last night. Gasol definitely hasn't been keeping his 2009 mantra of playing tough and Bynum has to develop more consistency. Kobe also needs to stop worrying about the records and passed the ball. Artest needs to make that wide open shot. I wonder if Ariza would've canned that 3 at the end of the game...

[cobbler]

Gasol 2009 championship year 12.9 FGA, 57% avg, 3.5 assists
2010 until now... 12.0 FGA, 53% avg, 3.3 assists

Kobe 2009 championship year 20.9 FGA, 46% avg, 4.9 assists
2010 until now... 22.6 FGA, 46% avg, 4.7 assists

So Kobe is averaging 1.5 more shots a game and Pau is averaging 1 less shot a game compared to last years le team. Kobes and Paus assists totals are almost identical to lasts years. Kobes FG% is the same as last year and Gasols is down 4%. So you shoot 4% tier and you lose one shot attempt a game because of it. WOW! Breaking news there!

Gasol and PJ both made their comments tongue in cheek and were refering to moving forward concentrating on basketball as opposed to the medias (as well as Kobe and the teams) focus on Kobe breaking Wests record. Of couse the Kobessors make something more of it that it actually is. After all.... their lives revolve around Kobe.