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  1. #101
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    Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.

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    LSU was definitely the best draw for A&M. I think they could definitely beat them.

    Alabama or Arkansas wouldn't roll them but would probably beat them pretty handily.
    the same arkansas team A&M lost to by 7 with 4 turnovers, before the qb change? i do think arkansas has gotten better and they along with alabama would be tougher games, but A&M could play with both. i don't know if we will beat lsu, but its a more favorable match up. i think its probably a 3-7 point game, however.

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    Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.
    true, but he is being fed...and seemingly bitter.

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    Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.
    This is fine entertainment, but I haven't said anything I don't think isnt really true.

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    so you basically made up your own definition.

    figured.
    There's no magical mark that must be reached to give license to the term, "Wrecking Crew," either. The whole thing was contrived to begin with, so on some level everyone basically made up their own definition at some point. The at ude I and most Aggies have seen them display this season is worthy of restoring such a moniker.

    [btw, I apologize for feeding the troll. Slow couple days for me ]

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    right, they changed RBs due to Mchael being hurt.

    and Gray's big play ability has been a difference maker, notably against UT.

    they did not change RBs. they lost one and the other one stepped up. next season it will be back to having gray and michael as the RBs.

    if the implication is that gray is superior to michael i just do not see that. michael is more explosive but gray is very good in his own right. obviously. but hey, i'm not going to be miffed either way. if the aggies happen to have 2 solid RBs who are not even juniors yet (and a couple of solid frosh as well) then even better.

    but the running game would have improved regardless as the offensive line was starting to gel and the 2 freshmen tackles started playing like the blue chip recruits they were.
    Last edited by rjv; 12-07-2010 at 11:40 AM.

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    2010 Cyrus Gray 180 att 1033 yds 5.7 ypc 12 tds
    2009 Christine Michael 166 att 844 yds 5.1 ypc 10 tds
    gray was a redshirt freshman who had one spring camp under his belt. michael got fewer carries to start the season but by the end of the year was getting big rushes (see the ut game).



    I don't know that they've improved drastically as you are implying here.

    of course, you also said the running game has been strong all season long.

    which is it? If it's that the O-line has improved that much, then explain exactly how they have.
    the o-line gave up 23 sacks in the first 6 games and 12 in the last 6 (against top ranked defenses such as nebraska, texas and oklahoma). they also gave up only 2 more sacks against the top defenses than they did against florida international alone. also piled up 150 more yards rushing against the last 6 much tougher opponents.

    http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports....html#TGBG.GBC

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    true, but he is being fed...and seemingly bitter.
    neh. reading comprehension failure on your part.

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    to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up. on the other hand, michael just gets to the seam so quickly that gives him more big play potential. just different styles i guess.

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    There's no magical mark that must be reached to give license to the term, "Wrecking Crew," either. The whole thing was contrived to begin with, so on some level everyone basically made up their own definition at some point. The at ude I and most Aggies have seen them display this season is worthy of restoring such a moniker.
    The Wrecking Crew dominated back in the late 80s and early 90s.

    Just like Nebraska and the blackshirts, I know Aggie fans are in a hurry to get back to those days and any semblance of a good defense makes them ready to call them that again......but this D is not anywhere near the same.

    [btw, I apologize for feeding the troll. Slow couple days for me ]
    If you want to have a discussion then great. If not, then gtfo. Pretty simple and nothing to apologize for unless you are a pussy.

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    they did not change RBs. they lost one and the other one stepped up.
    semantics.

    next season it will be back to having gray and michael as the RBs.
    most likely right. It's a shame.... I think it will take away a possible Doak Walker award nomination.

    if the implication is that gray is superior to michael i just do not see that. michael is more explosive but gray is very good in his own right. obviously. but hey, i'm not going to be miffed either way. if the aggies happen to have 2 solid RBs who are not even juniors yet (and a couple of solid frosh as well) then even better.

    but the running game would have improved regardless as the offensive line was starting to gel and the 2 freshmen tackles started playing like the blue chip recruits they were.
    Imo, from what I've seen, Gray is superior, and I bet finishes his career with better numbers than Michael does.

    You see it different, no prob. I think some are hung on Michael being a 5 star recruit and Gray a 4 star.

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    to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up. on the other hand, michael just gets to the seam so quickly that gives him more big play potential. just different styles i guess.
    Gray's vision and patience impress me a lot obviously.

    1st Aggie in about 17 years to rush for more than 100 yards in at least 4 straight games.

    You can say it's the offensive line improvement. I think there's some truth to that.......but I also don't think it's a total coincidence that the line also started looking really good around the time Gray and (Tannehill) started getting their touches.

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    The Wrecking Crew dominated back in the late 80s and early 90s.

    Just like Nebraska and the blackshirts, I know Aggie fans are in a hurry to get back to those days and any semblance of a good defense makes them ready to call them that again......but this D is not anywhere near the same.



    If you want to have a discussion then great. If not, then gtfo. Pretty simple and nothing to apologize for unless you are a pussy.
    So the what? You know as well as I do that the style of football the current D faces week in and week out is wildly different than anything the original WC ever faced. They've more than held their own this season against top 10 offenses and unique threats alike. I myself refrained from calling them the WC until after the OU game. Like I said, if you're looking for a defense with the same stats as the original WC, keep looking, because it's never going to happen the way the game has changed. You want to keep bringing up the specter of past defenses like it changes anything, but it doesn't in the slightest take away from the fact that this defense plays with a ferocity not seen since the WC days.

    And btw, dumbass, anyone with half a brain (or a non-texas tech education) could have figured out that my apology wasn't directed at you. I'm attempting to have a discussion with you, but if you want to keep on regurgitating the same talking points that have already been addressed ad nauseum, you can gtfo. This thread is supposed to be centered on A&M and the Cotton Bowl, not some butthurt tech fan, but some of us are kind enough to attempt a reasonable exchange of ideas. Don't abuse that.

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    The "Wrecking Crew" can return whenever the student body wants it to return. There is no certain standard to what a Wrecking Crew defense is and it would be ridiculous to think that any defense can match what ours was in the 80's. We will never have a defense like that again and our student body feels this defense has done enough to earn that le this season... therefore they are the "Wrecking Crew".

    Nobody says or is implying that this defense is better or equal to what we had back in the day and why the do you even care if we call it the wrecking crew or not?

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    It's the offensive line improvement.

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    It's the offensive line improvement.
    Definitely. With 3 freshman that play on the line (2 true freshman), it was expected to take awhile, but they have really turned it up the 2nd half of the season.

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    Definitely. With 3 freshman that play on the line (2 true freshman), it was expected to take awhile, but they have really turned it up the 2nd half of the season.
    Plus, as much as I love JJ's mobility (though his was overrated, IMO), having a guy like Tannehill who'll hang in the pocket longer instead of getting happy feet a second after the snap makes the Oline's job that much easier (or at the very least, more rigidly defined).

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    to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up.
    Unlike your boy Neal.

    tee, hee.

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    I'm excited to see what the Ags can do against LSU. The transformation of this team over the course of the year has been remarkable. There hasn't been this much excitement in College Station since they opened up that 20th Freebirds location at the corner of University and Hwy 6.

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    And btw, dumbass, anyone with half a brain (or a non-texas tech education) could have figured out that my apology wasn't directed at you.
    so anyone with half a brain has a non-texas tech education. Did you use half a brain to think that one through before you typed it?

    anyone with less than half a brain could figure I was calling you a pussy.


    I'm attempting to have a discussion with you, but if you want to keep on regurgitating the same talking points that have already been addressed ad nauseum, you can gtfo.
    where have I regurgiated the same talking points to you?

    maybe you should just apologize again to your fellow Aggies for posting and be on your way.

    This thread is supposed to be centered on A&M and the Cotton Bowl, not some butthurt tech fan, but some of us are kind enough to attempt a reasonable exchange of ideas. Don't abuse that.
    Gtfo

    I've posted nothing in this or any other thread that indicates butthurt or jealousy. You need to check the redness of your own ass.

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    The "Wrecking Crew" can return whenever the student body wants it to return. There is no certain standard to what a Wrecking Crew defense is and it would be ridiculous to think that any defense can match what ours was in the 80's. We will never have a defense like that again and our student body feels this defense has done enough to earn that le this season... therefore they are the "Wrecking Crew".

    Nobody says or is implying that this defense is better or equal to what we had back in the day and why the do you even care if we call it the wrecking crew or not?
    Why the do you care enough to respond to me?

    Someone said the Wrecking Crew returned. I asked when or where because I haven't seen it. Basically what you guys have said is "it's back because we say it's back."

    Neat!

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    so anyone with half a brain has a non-texas tech education. Did you use half a brain to think that one through before you typed it?

    anyone with less than half a brain could figure I was calling you a pussy.
    No, it means that anyone with half a brain could have figured out who I was talking to better than a product of that tier 3 POS barely accredited "university" in lubbock. Note to self: keep examples more simple for tech in the future.

    where have I regurgiated the same talking points to you?
    You keep going back to the "I haven't seen it [WC defense] yet" or trying to compare the current D to the old WC despite the fact that the very name itself is arbitrary and such comparisons are apples to oranges anyway.

    I've posted nothing in this or any other thread that indicates butthurt or jealousy.
    Your very presence in this thread indicates both. Feel free to ungracefully bow out at any time.

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    No, it means that anyone with half a brain could have figured out who I was talking to better than a product of that tier 3 POS barely accredited "university" in lubbock. Note to self: keep examples more simple for tech in the future.
    Anyone with half a brain (or a non-Texas Tech educated person) knows you are a step behind here.

    Maybe you should keep it more simple so that you can keep up with yourself.

    You keep going back to the "I haven't seen it [WC defense] yet" or trying to compare the current D to the old WC despite the fact that the very name itself is arbitrary and such comparisons are apples to oranges anyway.
    Looking back, I believe I asked you once and maybe DesT once. Hardly a regurgitation.

    I received your reply on this and really haven't responded back after your clarification.

    It's been duly noted that you think it's the Wrecking Crew even though they are 51st best in the nation and 4th best in the conference.

    Nothing more to say except lol.

    Your very presence in this thread indicates both. Feel free to ungracefully bow out at any time.
    It implies neither. Even someone with a half a brain (or a non-Texas Tech educated person) can understand that.

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    So has anyone watched LSU play this year? Brutalis?

    I know they could easily have 3 or 4 losses on the year. I've heard there offense is terrible but there Defense is good (better than any we have seen all year? Nebraska?)

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    So has anyone watched LSU play this year? Brutalis?

    I know they could easily have 3 or 4 losses on the year. I've heard there offense is terrible but there Defense is good (better than any we have seen all year? Nebraska?)
    I posted my comments about them earlier but it got lost amid all the trolling and university measuring that goes on in here frequently. Here it is again

    LSU was definitely the best draw for A&M. I think they could definitely beat them.

    Alabama or Arkansas wouldn't roll them but would probably beat them pretty handily. LSU is fool's gold it seems like. They could easily have 3 or 4 more losses if not for those goofy Les Miles trick plays leading to wild finishes

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